Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
The Boston Red . . . ah, what's the point
2007-06-01 15:18
by Cliff Corcoran
Note: The Bronx Banter blog has moved to

Look, folks, I had to be a Debbie Downer here, but the Yankees string of AL East titles is going to come to an end this year. Even if the Yanks sweep the Red Sox in Fenway this weekend, they'll still be 10.5 games out in June with just 6 games left against the first-place Sox. And what are the odds that the Yanks are going to sweep the Sox after loosing four of five to the Angels and Blue Jays?

No, my friends, it is time to focus on the Wild Card race, where the Yankees trail the Tigers by seven games with eight head-to-head matchups remaining.

That doesn't mean that this weekend's series doesn't matter. Every win counts. Its just that beating the Red Sox no longer means any more, and actually means a hair less, than beating one of the other seven teams ahead of them in the wild card hunt (which, incidentally, includes the Blue Jays).

Not much has changed since these two teams met in the Bronx at the beginning of last week. Not even the pitching matchups. The Red Sox wound up losing eight games in May, two of them to the Yankees and one more since. Josh Beckett returned to the rotation on Tuesday with a stellar outing against the hard-hitting Indians, and Manny Delcarmen is back in the minors. For the Yankees, Kevin Thompson replaces the disabled Jason Giambi on the roster and the plan for the immediate future is to have Johnny Damon be the everyday DH and Melky Cabrera be the everyday center fielder. Meanwhile Matt DeSalvo was farmed out in favor of Chris Britton, who has been dominating the International League. Britton or another reliever will have to be removed from the roster on Monday to make way for the return of Roger Clemens.

Tim Wakefield vs. the Yankees in two starts this season: 0-2, 7.84 ERA, 10 1/3 IP, 14 H, 9 R, 3 HR, 11 BB, 5 K

Chien-Ming Wang vs. the Red Sox in two starts this season: 1-1, 4.38 ERA, 12 1/3 IP, 13 H, 6 R, 2 HR, 6 BB, 6 K

When these two last faced off a week ago Monday in the Bronx, Wang surprised everyone by utilizing his secondary pitches, particularly his slider, to strike out five Red Sox in 6 1/3 innings. In his last start against the contact-hitting Angels, Wang struck out six in eight innings to give him 11 Ks in his last 14 1/3 innings, or 6.91 K/9 over his last two starts. Despite the change in approach, his extreme ground-ball rate was largely unaffected as he got 24 ground balls in those two games against 11 flies (the fly ball total is typical for him, while the missing grounders all turned in to less risky strikeouts). Wang struck out 7.06 men per nine innings over his minor league career. Brandon Webb rode an extreme ground-ball rate and a 6.82 K/9 to the NL Cy Young award last year. If Wang's new strikeout rate holds, he may have just made the leap.

Comments (1527)
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2007-06-01 15:54:44
1.   williamnyy23
That's not a downer at've just taken a 13 game deficit and turned it into 6 (in the loss column).

With Clemens coming and Giambi leaving, the culture of the team is going to change. While I'd much rather have a healthy Giambi, maybe his absence will indirectly help Melky and Damon and also remove the idea that the team is a dominant offense. Lower expectations and more relaxed environment might yield the same results as last year's campaign without Matsui and Sheffield.

Then again, maybe I'm just a typical addict living in denial?

2007-06-01 15:57:35
2.   Kered Retej
On a slightly positive note, the "AccuScore" projection on ESPN actually predicts the Yankees as a 56% favorite over the Sox.
2007-06-01 16:00:50
3.   C2Coke
It was real funny to read that title from Cliff.
2007-06-01 16:07:37
4.   rbj
Sigh, NESN broadcast on EI, though they aren't too bad.

In keeping with Debbie Downer, with Wang on the mound there are going to be lots of dead worms. Waa, waa.

2007-06-01 16:10:24
5.   Count Zero
Can I just take this opportunity to say...Torre is an effing idiot sometimes...

Not sure why he felt the need to say that two days after the incident.

2007-06-01 16:13:47
6.   cult of basebaal
any idea of when the game will start?
2007-06-01 16:26:43
7.   randym77
Is it a rain delay?
2007-06-01 16:28:02
8.   cult of basebaal
yeah, sounds like it's starting soon though, from LoHud
2007-06-01 16:31:00
9.   3rd gen yankee fan
5 what the... Agreed. Way to show some support there Joe.
2007-06-01 16:32:50
10.   JL25and3
Wow. That was the Jeter jump throw, but with a whole lot more mustard on it.
2007-06-01 16:39:01
11.   3rd gen yankee fan
Wang with the K!
2007-06-01 16:41:10
12.   3rd gen yankee fan
worm burner #1
2007-06-01 16:47:24
13.   OldYanksFan
2007-06-01 16:47:38
14.   Yankees Brasil
Thats the problem of having phelps at 1B
2007-06-01 16:48:00
15.   Eirias
Where is Pujols when you need him.
2007-06-01 16:48:13
16.   Zack
Tough play for Phleps. I'd still rather him there than Minky, though perhaps with the Wanger pitching, Minky can start
2007-06-01 16:48:28
17.   Yankees Brasil
I honestly dont get it why Joe waits till Wang is pitching to start Phelps at 1B
2007-06-01 16:48:57
18.   rbj
Well that was, um, an adventure.
2007-06-01 16:49:21
19.   Zack
No problemo for the Wanger...just longer than shoulda been
2007-06-01 16:49:36
20.   3rd gen yankee fan
worm burner #2
2007-06-01 16:51:50
21.   yankz
17 Hilarious.
2007-06-01 16:54:26
22.   RIYank
Quiet evening for Boston series at Bronx Banter -- in keeping with Cliff's theme, I guess.
2007-06-01 16:54:55
23.   rbj
Shoot, I missed A-Rod's AB (needed beer). How'd the crowd react?
2007-06-01 16:56:58
24.   RIYank
2007-06-01 16:57:14
25.   rbj
Oh, yeah Robbie!
2007-06-01 16:57:51
26.   Zack
Robbie en fuego!
2007-06-01 16:58:40
27.   3rd gen yankee fan
2007-06-01 16:59:05
28.   cult of basebaal
2007-06-01 16:59:14
29.   Chyll Will
I saw that coming, for some strange reason...
2007-06-01 16:59:27
30.   cult of basebaal
oooh, i like canobiwan!
2007-06-01 17:00:18
31.   3rd gen yankee fan
Nice, Abreu!
2007-06-01 17:00:31
32.   cult of basebaal
AND an abreu double? has the world turned upside down???
2007-06-01 17:01:01
33.   RIYank
Oh, this is good, very good. Wakey in big trouble, Tito must be thinking about getting a crappy reliever up. Or maybe Tavarez?
2007-06-01 17:01:08
34.   cult of basebaal
time for a delivery!
2007-06-01 17:03:19
35.   3rd gen yankee fan
Oh YEAH!!!
2007-06-01 17:03:29
36.   RIYank
30 Thanks, it just came to me.
I'm listening to Sterling and Waldman, it's a hoot. Sterling was apparently unaware that there was a big, big wall in left field and was sure Abreu's double was going out.
2007-06-01 17:04:26
37.   RIYank
Oh, 23, there were cat calls galore.
2007-06-01 17:04:51
38.   monkeypants
Slow internet connection, so listening to radio on (Sox feed) rather than watching. After lengthy discussion of A-Rod's "bush-league" play, and further analysis of "all the other bush league plays" he has apparently committed, they Sox announcers proceeded with the following example of perverse logic:

Announcer 1: "Some say that A-Rod covets the attention so he makes these controversial plays on purpose to draw the attention."

Announcer 2: "Yeah. And you have to wonder if he'll use these controversies to make it easier to opt out and leave New york."

Announcer 1: "And get out of the spotlight in New York."

Announcer 2:"Right. he didn't have it in Seattle or Texas"...etc.


2007-06-01 17:05:25
39.   cult of basebaal
2007-06-01 17:06:17
40.   3rd gen yankee fan
yup yup
2007-06-01 17:06:18
41.   RIYank
Ouch. Dang, DJ.
2007-06-01 17:06:26
42.   rbj
Shite. Can't let Wakefield off the hook like that.
2007-06-01 17:06:35
43.   Zack
What the hell was Jeter thinking there? Why did he swing at the first pitch??? That was totally inexcusable Cap....
2007-06-01 17:07:47
44.   Zack
Thats a sign if ever that Jeter is in a mini slump...a week ago he knocks in two without a doubt
2007-06-01 17:08:23
45.   RIYank
38 Sox radio is always like that. It's like listening to two really old guys at a picnic talking about a baseball game that happened a long time ago, and you're pretty sure they aren't talking about the same game.
2007-06-01 17:09:25
46.   JeremyM
So he walks three straight guys, and he swings at the first pitch?!? Come on man.
2007-06-01 17:09:57
47.   3rd gen yankee fan
Does that count as a worm burner?
2007-06-01 17:10:21
48.   RIYank
43 46 I'm thinking maybe that first pitch was a fastball? I don't know, just a guess. And that's why Jeter swung, I mean.
2007-06-01 17:11:16
49.   RIYank
The very best part of Wakefield pitching? Mirabelli batting.
2007-06-01 17:13:20
50.   JeremyM
48 That's what I figured, but I'm hearing it was a knuckler. It's one of those things where since he hit into a DP, he's a moron, but if he gets a hit, I love him for jumping on the pitch.

But personally, I want him to throw a strike first.

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2007-06-01 17:14:35
51.   RIYank
Man, is this a big batter.
2007-06-01 17:14:58
52.   RIYank
50 If it was a knuckler, then yeah, definitely.
2007-06-01 17:15:17
53.   cult of basebaal
46 50 maybe he figured that given the walks and the fact the bases were loaded, he would get a fat get-ahead kinda pitch ... he's earned the right to swing, but you just can't end up with a GIDP as a result ... not so hot, cap'n
2007-06-01 17:18:44
54.   cult of basebaal
what's wang throwing 2nite? mixing it up like last game? or back to the ol' sinker smorgasbord that the sox always seem to figure out and punish
2007-06-01 17:18:51
55.   RIYank
God that sucks. Umpires seem to have it in for us this year.
2007-06-01 17:19:45
56.   RIYank
Dammit, dammit.
2007-06-01 17:21:08
57.   Eirias
Kay is right about one thing, Wang really does look young with his haircut. Now lets see him Kut down Drew.
2007-06-01 17:23:00
58.   Chyll Will
Is anyone else on Gameday? I'm still stuck on 2-1 to Youkilis...
2007-06-01 17:24:09
59.   JeremyM
58 CBS Sportsline is going good so far.
2007-06-01 17:24:25
60.   RIYank
Cute -- crowd screamed "MINE" when A-Rod went to field that foul pop. (For those who aren't listening or watching.)
2007-06-01 17:25:19
61.   3rd gen yankee fan
2007-06-01 17:25:52
62.   Yankees Brasil
Twice now he escapes a bases loaded jam.. this is not gonna end up well..
2007-06-01 17:26:18
63.   williamnyy23
I really hope that Jeter AB doesn't wind up being a turning point. I know we'd all be cheering if he put one over the Green Monster, but you have to make Wakefield throw a strike there. Maybe Jeter is trying to do too much because he has hit a mini slump and hasn't exactly shown the best judgment lately.
2007-06-01 17:28:20
64.   RIYank
That was kind of dumb on A-Rod's part, huh?
2007-06-01 17:28:39
65.   Eirias
Weak, Arod. Just weak.
2007-06-01 17:29:16
66.   Yankees Brasil
damnit Alex
2007-06-01 17:29:42
67.   williamnyy23
More bad judgment.
2007-06-01 17:30:23
68.   Zack
Thee Sox announcers are obsessed with A-Rod's trips to and fro the dugout. Ahem, but, Who cares? That Sox fans care so much is so so sad. And of course, should he opt out, Sox fans would insist they want nothing to do with him..idiots...

That Jeter DP is looming huge.

2007-06-01 17:31:00
69.   williamnyy23
54 He is mixing it up again and I'm not sure why. He keeps leaving sliders up in the zone and is going to hurt if he keeps doing so.
2007-06-01 17:32:47
70.   RIYank
Wang never feels pressure, right? Because what he's showing is awfully similar to the symptoms.
Apparently the sinker is very fast today, which might not be a good thing.
2007-06-01 17:34:05
71.   Yankees Brasil
It would be great to get a DP now..
2007-06-01 17:34:37
72.   randym77
So why did Wang cut his hair that short? Did the Boss tell him to get a hair cut or something?
2007-06-01 17:35:12
73.   RIYank
That's the Wanger. But Crisp doesn't hit hard enough (and runs too fast, too).
2007-06-01 17:37:15
74.   Yankees Brasil
Wang at 55 pitches ..
2007-06-01 17:37:44
75.   RIYank
Oh, man. Squandered the best part of Wakefield pitching...
2007-06-01 17:39:29
76.   RIYank
He's not pitching all that badly, but it's going really badly.
2007-06-01 17:40:49
77.   WeMissPaulie
Man, Pedroia? Shouldn't let him hit like that.
2007-06-01 17:41:27
78.   WeMissPaulie
Pedroia? Man, that sucks. Get that guy out.
2007-06-01 17:41:55
79.   WeMissPaulie
DP now, before Ortiz shows up.
2007-06-01 17:42:56
80.   cult of basebaal
i have to say, i never have much confidence in wang against the sox, last weeks game not withstanding
2007-06-01 17:44:43
81.   cult of basebaal
don't look now, but petunia's raking, batted .415 in May
2007-06-01 17:45:09
82.   RIYank
Hm, several stupid baserunning plays today.
2007-06-01 17:46:02
83.   cult of basebaal
phew, cmon wanger, one more
2007-06-01 17:49:45
84.   RIYank
This game going slow enough?
2007-06-01 17:50:50
85.   cult of basebaal
84 more time to raise my blood pressure, it seems
2007-06-01 17:51:07
86.   RIYank
Big question is, who's going to pitch the second half of this game? Scary thought.
2007-06-01 17:51:36
87.   williamnyy23
The Yankees have to jump on Wakefield. They could have put this game away early, but now it looks like it will go down to the wire. If we see Okajima and Papelbon for three innings, it could get late early.
2007-06-01 17:51:50
88.   RIYank
Freakin' Robbie. Sixth straight hit!
2007-06-01 17:52:34
89.   cult of basebaal
ripping robbie
2007-06-01 17:52:51
90.   cult of basebaal
c'mon fat piece of garbage
2007-06-01 17:54:13
91.   RIYank
Bobby's doing what Bobby does best.

87 Yeah, but Boston has also missed some opportunities to put the game away. They've left runners on second and third every inning, and twice loaded.

2007-06-01 17:55:53
92.   RIYank
Let's cash in this time.

Anyway that one didn't hurt, I bet.

2007-06-01 17:57:07
93.   JeremyM
OK, let's put the boots to him now!!!
2007-06-01 17:57:14
94.   RIYank
God, I love Tim Wakefield sometimes.
2007-06-01 17:57:32
95.   OldYanksFan
Sox leaving 8 on in 3 innings? That's called 'Yankee Baseball'
2007-06-01 17:58:14
96.   Maniakes
Gameday shows Melky batting righty. Is he actually batting righty against Wakefield, or is Gameday on crack?
2007-06-01 17:59:23
97.   JeremyM
2007-06-01 17:59:49
98.   randym77
Hmm. Melky was batting righty.
2007-06-01 18:00:05
99.   OldYanksFan
Melky did a REAL NICE job, not only getting a hit, but NOT striking out. Really had to reach for that pitch.
2007-06-01 18:00:27
100.   RIYank
I love Tim Wakefield.
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2007-06-01 18:01:35
101.   OldYanksFan
Anybody see the fight in Chicago? Zambrano didn't like a call and a passed ball by his catcher, so he punched him and started a fight in the dugout.
2007-06-01 18:01:45
102.   cult of basebaal
2007-06-01 18:02:19
103.   RIYank
99 Exactly what I was thinking. In fact, I was fully expecting him to strike out.
2007-06-01 18:04:01
104.   yankz
David Wells, Graeme Lloyd, and Homer Bush, right?

The Yankees aren't winning this one, Mirabelli is pissing it away.

2007-06-01 18:04:28
105.   randym77
101 I didn't see it, but everyone's talking about it.

They continued the fight in the clubhouse later, and the catcher had to go get stitches.

Zambrano is reportedly not getting along with Lou, either, fueling speculation that he may be dealt.

2007-06-01 18:04:32
106.   yankz
And WTF is wrong with Jeet?
2007-06-01 18:04:36
107.   cult of basebaal
ugh, jetes is on the skids
2007-06-01 18:06:19
108.   RIYank
Here comes Snyder. I'd rather have Wakey, but Snyder against A-Rod will do.
2007-06-01 18:07:19
109.   Hocakes
Do you go from the perhaps the best lineup ever to a bunch of bums because you lose one player? Remember, most of the opionionators who are now saying the Yanks are washed up were saying they were perhaps the best lineup ever last October, when they were predicting they'd win the World Series. Well, Sheffield is gone but other than that, it's been basically the same lineup(up until Giambi's recent departure). They're not as bad as they look and by the end of the season, the disparity between the Red Sox and the Yanks won't appear as great as it does today.

Ok guys, pile on, swat that knuckler, let me put the Tums away.

2007-06-01 18:07:55
110.   williamnyy23
91 But the Sox don't NEED to win this game.

99 This looks more like the patient Melky of 2006. Nothing special...but getting the job done.

Jeter and Damon both would have walked if they excercised the same patience as Melky.

2007-06-01 18:08:26
111.   Mattpat11
I need to watch this game to take my attention. My dog died tonight.
2007-06-01 18:10:24
112.   RIYank
109 I don't think Snyder throws a knuckler. (Bad timing!)

111 Serious?

2007-06-01 18:11:04
113.   RIYank
Hah. The Fenway Faithful definitely wanted A-Rod hit, but definitely not in that way or at that time.
2007-06-01 18:11:42
114.   Mattpat11
112 Yeah. She had some kind of virus. We took her to the vet at 10 AM and was was dead by 7.

Frankly, I don't care what we do tonight. But its better that looking at her toys.

2007-06-01 18:12:37
115.   RIYank
Big, big, big.

Thank the Lord for Jorgie.

2007-06-01 18:13:00
116.   randym77
I heart Jorgie.
2007-06-01 18:13:12
117.   Chyll Will
114 I'm very sorry, friend.
2007-06-01 18:13:47
118.   weeping for brunnhilde
All three runs will score!!!



How beautiful is that!!!!!


2007-06-01 18:14:07
119.   cult of basebaal

111 sorry to hear, that sucks man

2007-06-01 18:16:14
120.   williamnyy23
114 Sorry to hear it. I had a dog pass the same way...trip to the vet and then a lonely drive home.
2007-06-01 18:17:00
121.   williamnyy23
Even on that pop out, Cano's swing looked good.
2007-06-01 18:20:39
122.   RIYank
Wanger does his thing.
2007-06-01 18:21:53
123.   williamnyy23
Tale of two Jeters...he shows little range on Ortiz' single than makes a really nice play on Manny's ball in the hole.
2007-06-01 18:23:17
124.   cult of basebaal
EXCELLENT! (steeples fingers)
2007-06-01 18:24:14
125.   jkay
35 minute at bat for NY, time to watch it again on the dvr.
2007-06-01 18:26:15
126.   C2Coke
114 Sorry to hear that.
2007-06-01 18:26:30
127.   rbj
111 My condolences, Mattpat11. I've just spent the last hour out in the backyard reading, listening to the Mudhens (Jake Westbrook got knocked out in the 2nd in a rehab assignment) & watching my dog run around.

Name? Age?

2007-06-01 18:26:50
128.   Marcus
Is the good Abreu back? Let's hope so.
2007-06-01 18:30:50
129.   C2Coke
128 Looks like the good Cano is back too. The Cap'n picked a good time to leave the party for a bit.
2007-06-01 18:31:39
130.   Zack
I go off to eat and come back and its 9-3, alright! What gives?
2007-06-01 18:31:42
131.   Mattpat11
127 There really is nothing better than spending an evening in the yard with the dog.
2007-06-01 18:34:41
132.   Zack
111 Sorry bud, its rough, hang in there
2007-06-01 18:35:09
133.   rbj
Wait, Torre is arguing a call?
2007-06-01 18:37:44
134.   C2Coke
133 Abreu was safe.

130 Have a second meal. (Wakefield didn't have it tonight.)

2007-06-01 18:38:09
135.   yankz
OK Captain, time to redeem yourself for that DP...your BA with RISP/2 outs is plummeting.
2007-06-01 18:38:45
136.   Zack
134 I would, but it was a scallop burrito and fish taco from my corner taco stand, so if i tried I think I would explode...
2007-06-01 18:38:49
137.   yankz
What the hell? That pitch was nearly in the other batter's box. Eye infection?
2007-06-01 18:39:05
138.   yankz
OK, I'm a moron, yay Jeets!
2007-06-01 18:39:08
139.   RIYank
Abreu was safe, but it was a dumb call by Torre anyway.
Jeez, that hit by Jeter would have been an RBI, and we'd still have 'em loaded with one out.
2007-06-01 18:40:00
140.   rbj
134 That doesn't stop Torre from just sitting there.
2007-06-01 18:40:05
141.   cult of basebaal
c'mon cap'n, join the party
2007-06-01 18:40:22
142.   Zack
Its really a testemant to the Sox offense and starting pitching thus far this year that this BP hasn't been able to screw things up royally. Things could get ugly for them though if one of those two breaks down...
2007-06-01 18:40:37
143.   williamnyy23
134 Blown call, but I'm not sure if stealing was a good idea to begin with.

With all the bad calls we've seen, I keep going back to that silly Verducci article that cited some ridiculously low missed call rate for the umps.

2007-06-01 18:40:49
144.   williamnyy23
2007-06-01 18:42:14
145.   seamus
go joe!
2007-06-01 18:42:19
146.   Zack
Did anyone see that ESPN articel about how Torre said A-Rod shouldn't have said "ha?" Has this already been discussed?

Either way, has Torre ever thrown a player under the bus so consistantly as he has A-Rod? Isn't hsi strength suppsoed to be preventing this type of thing?

2007-06-01 18:42:42
147.   yankz
Nice, I like to see that fire from Joe.
2007-06-01 18:43:59
148.   yankz
146 Yeah, it's a little ridiculous, especially since it wasn't like Arod threw a bat at an ump or anything. Several smart baseball minds have defended Arod.
2007-06-01 18:45:05
149.   Jim Dean
Just got in from date night (Knocked up - funny and intelligent) to hear a false home run call from Sterling. I'll drink to the score though!

(But sad Cliffy lacks the faith)

2007-06-01 18:45:46
150.   Ramone
146 is that true?
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2007-06-01 18:45:59
151.   yankz
Check out Pete Abraham:

"I've been reading the comments. I think we need to have a test of basic baseball knowledge for some of you."

2007-06-01 18:46:28
152.   cult of basebaal
what happened there with joe getting tossed?
2007-06-01 18:46:35
153.   Chyll Will
Huh? What?? Did Joe say something?
2007-06-01 18:46:40
154.   Jim Dean
5 Torre is a douche.
2007-06-01 18:47:19
155.   Zack
Here's the link:
2007-06-01 18:47:34
156.   RIYank
149 I wanted to kill Sterling. ANother five feet from Matsuisan would have made the lead BullpenSafe(tm).
2007-06-01 18:47:41
157.   OldYanksFan
I could read Torre lips. He said:
"Horsesh*t!. Pure horsesh*t!. I've seen horsesh*t before, but that call was really fuck*n' horsesh*t!. How can you make such a horsesh*t call? That's horsesh*t! I'm tired of all these fuck*n' horsesh*t calls. You call yourself a fuck*n' umpire? That's horsesh*t! Pure horsesh*t"
2007-06-01 18:47:47
158.   C2Coke
149 So you'd recommend the movie? It seems like a light movie that fits perfectly into all the summer blockbusters, but I have to admit I was skeptical.
2007-06-01 18:48:03
159.   RIYank
I'm going out for a drink. Get more runs while I'm gone.
2007-06-01 18:48:06
160.   seamus
154 i hate comments like this. Criticize torre. he deserves it. but don't post lame name calling.
2007-06-01 18:48:09
161.   Chyll Will
151 Was he referring to his own flock or was he firing a shot across someone else's bow?
2007-06-01 18:48:54
162.   rbj
151 Me thinks many of Pete's commentors are in A ball -- while we here of course are major leaguers.

149 "date night (Knocked up)"
Wow Jim, you move fast. -jk

2007-06-01 18:50:03
163.   seamus
wang looks different to me tonight. haircut?
2007-06-01 18:51:01
164.   Chyll Will
159 'kay.

157 Uncle Woodrow would say he sure got his money's worth. Hey, we all feel you Joe (finally...)

2007-06-01 18:51:08
165.   yankz
149 I want to watch that, just because the actress looks f'ing, ridiculously gorgeous.
2007-06-01 18:51:21
166.   Zack
162 I was thinking the same thing! lol...
2007-06-01 18:51:40
167.   C2Coke
162 I needed some laugh this afternoon and decided to read some comments at Lohud. Works every time, better than magic.
2007-06-01 18:52:25
168.   seamus
165 it looks awful, but i loved undeclared and freaks & geeks. The writers for that know intelligent humor.
2007-06-01 18:52:42
169.   yankz
163 Yeah. I miss the mullet.
2007-06-01 18:52:50
170.   Zack
Wanger with high, 96 MPH cheese. Is it jsut me, or does Wang's 96 MPH heaters look a lot slower than they are? weird
2007-06-01 18:53:05
171.   OldYanksFan
Jerry Remy for NESN is very cool. A great announcer. He said ARod's 'HA' (mine) call was standard practice. He heard it all the time. Especially from the dugout on foul popups. He thought all the hoopla over this is silly. Happened all the time to him. Gave examples of many ways players try to fake one another.

If this were the White Sox, Seattle, or many other teams, the homey announcers would get all preachy about this, but the Remdawg calls it like it is.

The guy is probably the fairest guy at a mike. He loves his Red Sox, but he is very fair to other teams.

Gave Guidry a real tribute to his 1978 year. Posted the numbers and called them 'Pedro-like'.

I like the guy.

2007-06-01 18:53:15
172.   yankz
168 Didn't these guys write 40 y/o virgin?
2007-06-01 18:53:25
173.   rbj
163 Ah, haircut, that's what it was. I knew Wang was pitching, but from the back it didn't look like him. Couldn't figure that out.
2007-06-01 18:53:31
174.   Chyll Will
149 "Jimmy... Jimmy... Oh, Jimmy Mack, when are ya comin' back..."

Way to go, killah!

2007-06-01 18:53:54
175.   seamus
172 maybe. didn't see that.
2007-06-01 18:54:28
176.   Zack
Wanger right at 100 through 5, def. bring him out for 6, no?
2007-06-01 18:54:40
177.   seamus
173 I thought that they had pulled him at first until i watched his delivery. And even the I had doubts. I'm with 169. I miss the mullet.
2007-06-01 18:54:52
178.   weeping for brunnhilde
I am SO HAPPY we're winning this game.

This feels really good, doesn't it?

(I know, I know, don't worry, I've touched wood.)

Seriously, this feels nice.

2007-06-01 18:55:06
179.   yankz
167 Tell me about it.
2007-06-01 18:55:17
180.   seamus
176 I agree. I wish he would use that sinker more against the Sox. I came in late, but am I right to assume that he has been throwing the other stuff a lot again?
2007-06-01 18:55:26
181.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, and Joe?

Right the fuck on!

Great to see some emotion!

Maybe this is it?

2007-06-01 18:55:31
182.   rbj
171 So A-Rod's manager throws him under the bus, and it takes the hated rival's announcer to defend him?
Cynic in me says RS are hoping A-Rod opts out and they swoop in & grab him.
2007-06-01 18:55:42
183.   Jim Dean
158 Absolutely. Like 40 year old virgin but better. Hot Fuzz was belly laugh funnier though. These were more zippy one-liners.

160 Sorry but his whole schtick is taking the heat FOR players. Yet in this player's case he only helps to turn it up.

162 Nice.

2007-06-01 18:56:41
184.   weeping for brunnhilde
We've gotta keep going what Arod started.

Day 1: Arod.

Day 2: Joe.

Each game for the next several weeks should be marked by an epic moment thus.

2007-06-01 18:57:12
185.   yankz
175 Oh man. You gotta.
2007-06-01 18:57:54
186.   Jim Dean
172 Same director and who wrote 40 yo with Steve Carell.
2007-06-01 18:58:24
187.   rbj
Day-um, Christie Brinkley is still smoking hot. Billy Joel, you were an idiot.
2007-06-01 18:59:57
188.   C2Coke
171 I am always amazed at how well I can take the NESN announcers considering they are Boston's. They don't go crazy, they are not overly biased and they are well knowledged. I like them quite a bit, and they don't rub me the wrong way like Kay does.
2007-06-01 19:00:59
189.   randym77
Wang not only cut his hair really short, he seems to be wearing a more tailored uniform. It's not as baggy as it used to be.
2007-06-01 19:01:31
190.   rbj
WTF, was there even a tag?
2007-06-01 19:02:00
191.   weeping for brunnhilde
Aw, fuck, nice hustle, Jorgie.

Our boys are playing with some drive, you have to admit.

2007-06-01 19:02:20
192.   seamus
190 i couldn't tell. I thought he was safe but my view seemed off.
2007-06-01 19:03:26
193.   Chyll Will
See'ya after the game, everyone! tally-ho(me)...
2007-06-01 19:03:31
194.   weeping for brunnhilde
189 Yeah, his last start, his hair seemed so long to me I wondered if it was regulation.

Remember that business with Mattingly's hair?

He had that tail?

2007-06-01 19:03:36
195.   williamnyy23
171 Rob Neyer also had an interesting note about George Brett. Apparently, Brett liked to yell out "cut" when he was on the basepaths and a throw was coming in from the OF.
2007-06-01 19:04:33
196.   rbj
194 Remember the Simpsons episode with Mattingly?
2007-06-01 19:04:39
197.   C2Coke
175 Yea, man, I agree with yankz 185.
2007-06-01 19:05:31
198.   Zack
Pedroia is really up over .320? Damn. Course, thats with no power, but still, surprised...
2007-06-01 19:06:16
199.   weeping for brunnhilde
We're looking tight in the field!

Nicely turned again, boys.

2007-06-01 19:06:31
200.   3rd gen yankee fan
that would be worm burner #5
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2007-06-01 19:07:04
201.   Zack
Theo is really lucky that the team that was already in place has been red hot, b/c his offseason pickups thus far have been, er, not so good? Lugo, Drew and Dice-k...
2007-06-01 19:08:11
202.   seamus
201 Dice-k has been inconsistent, but has shown strength. He is a MLB rookie.
2007-06-01 19:08:14
203.   OldYanksFan
Pedroia batted .450 in May.
2007-06-01 19:10:54
204.   Zack
202 rookie yes and no. My point wasn't looking towards long term, but just that Theo is benefitting from exactly what Cashman hasn't. The team is covering for major signings he made that have, thus far, majorly dissapointed. For Cashman, no such luck...
2007-06-01 19:11:11
205.   3rd gen yankee fan
OH! almost a worm burner!
2007-06-01 19:11:34
206.   weeping for brunnhilde
No, Joe, no!!!!

That was a chopper in the hole.

Don't take him out!!!

2007-06-01 19:11:37
207.   Zack
Ugh, the classic, Myers to face Ortiz move
2007-06-01 19:11:58
208.   seamus
204 fair enough.
2007-06-01 19:12:19
209.   weeping for brunnhilde
196 You know, I've actually never seen it.
2007-06-01 19:12:20
210.   seamus
206 don't worry. joe didn't.
2007-06-01 19:13:04
211.   weeping for brunnhilde
210 ha ha ha ahha !!!!

Right, seamus, riiigght!

2007-06-01 19:13:27
212.   C2Coke
Wang could have finished the inning, would've been the so-called "quality start."
2007-06-01 19:14:56
213.   rbj
209 It's a good one. Burns constantly gets on Mattingly for his sideburns, even when Donnie's basically shaved his whole head. And Don's remark after Burn's last tirade:
"I still like him better than Steinbrenner"
2007-06-01 19:15:41
214.   Ramone
Joe gave Donnie strict instructions before he left: "Take Wang out ASAP so he can have a positive feeling about the game."
2007-06-01 19:16:09
215.   yankz
209 Oh man. You gotta.
2007-06-01 19:16:20
216.   C2Coke
Myers has been quite decent lately, no?
2007-06-01 19:16:47
217.   yankz
214 Haha!

Anyone got a pitch count on Wang?

IIRC, Mattingly did a great job with the pitching staff that game he managed.

2007-06-01 19:17:48
218.   yankz
216 Yeah, I'd say leave him in for the 7th. He's been solid vs. righties this year and there's a six run lead.

Then you hope Farns and Viz can get 6 outs without coughing this one up.

2007-06-01 19:18:04
219.   C2Coke
217 112. A lot for less than 6 innings, especially with Wang.
2007-06-01 19:18:21
220.   DougP
217 Wang threw 112 pitches.
2007-06-01 19:18:48
221.   C2Coke
218 There is no need to scare me this early.
2007-06-01 19:22:43
222.   Jim Dean
To Cliff -

Things can change just as quickly for the Sox.

Both Lowell and Drew have left the game with injuries.

The great starts of Wake and Matsuzaka are gone.

My point: Keep the faith, man.


2007-06-01 19:25:43
223.   seamus
222 I don't mind going after the wild card to help keep things in perspective and seem more realistic. But giving up on the title before you have to is silly to me. Always keep your eyes on the prize. Even if it is in your peripheral vision.
2007-06-01 19:26:27
224.   williamnyy23
I have a feeling (or maybe it's wishful thinking) that Melky is going to play much better with Giambi gone. Maybe Melky was pressing a little as he tried to earn ABs?
2007-06-01 19:26:54
225.   yankz
219, 220 Thanks.
2007-06-01 19:29:17
226.   seamus
that was beautious!
2007-06-01 19:29:53
227.   williamnyy23
226 Excellent play by Jeter, especially as up the middle is his weak spot.
2007-06-01 19:30:08
228.   DougP
pastadiving .... OH MY -- nice play!
2007-06-01 19:30:27
229.   seamus
224 there is that possibility. I really fealt that he was pressing because he wanted to earn playing time as well.
2007-06-01 19:32:03
230.   williamnyy23
224 1 I made the same point before the game, so I'm not just going off the results of this game. I actually think it's a real possibility.
2007-06-01 19:33:21
231.   rbj
Let's get to .500 first, then second place, then the wild card lead, then first.
2007-06-01 19:33:38
232.   DougP
What a great comment: "Manny breaks up the double play a little differently than most." I missed which of the YES announcers said it, but that was funny.
2007-06-01 19:35:14
233.   pistolpete
Hey Youk, miss that ball trying to see over your huge grotesque goatee?
2007-06-01 19:35:52
234.   pistolpete
What are these idiots chanting?
2007-06-01 19:37:41
235.   Jim Dean
230 You and me - we're not so different afterall.
2007-06-01 19:38:42
236.   C2Coke
231 Sounds great to me.
2007-06-01 19:39:04
237.   pistolpete
Cleveland ties it up off Todd Jones in the bottom 9th - still 2 men on with 2 out
2007-06-01 19:39:50
238.   OldYanksFan
It's great to watch NESC and hear Don and Remy make fun of Manny. Remy just went on to say that he prays when Manny retires, they will make a 'greatest moments' tape, highlighted by his diving to 'cut off' Damons throw from CF.

After chatting it up, they show the play from 2 different angles, with Don laughing and Remy saying hows he's never seen a LF cut off a CF's throw before... from 10' away... and diving to do it.

Manny being Manny is not lost on the Remdawg.

2007-06-01 19:40:57
239.   pistolpete
Fosx has Cleveland up 12-11 in the bottom of the 9th, but still has Jones pitching to 2 men on base.


2007-06-01 19:41:12
240.   pistolpete
Make that 'Fox' Sports.
2007-06-01 19:42:47
241.   DougP
239 Cleveland won 12-11.
2007-06-01 19:43:39
242.   pistolpete
And Toronto loses - we win the game, we leapfrog them in the wildcard standings...
2007-06-01 19:44:44
243.   pistolpete
Um, Shrek is green, Mike.
2007-06-01 19:47:28
244.   C2Coke
Who is this dude pitching at 97 MPH and getting two outs on three pitches?
2007-06-01 19:47:58
245.   Shaun P
Let's go Farnsworth!

Honestly, no way Mo pitches the 9th, right? Gotta get him some rest - he did get a 1.3 IP save the other day. =)

But if not Mo, who? Britton?

2007-06-01 19:48:59
246.   Jim Dean
245 Leave Farns in? He's no good tomorrow any way.
2007-06-01 19:49:20
247.   pistolpete
245 Yeah, I give it to Britton - unless they want to give Mo some easy work.
2007-06-01 19:49:35
248.   rbj
245 Throw Britton into the fire -- 6 run cushion and Mo still available.

Gotta say the NESN guys are enjoying themselves even while getting beat. (being up 10.5 helps, though)

2007-06-01 19:49:39
249.   DougP
244 Not sure, but I'd like to see more of this 1-2-3 from him.
2007-06-01 19:50:58
250.   pistolpete
Forget what I said about leaping over Toronto - read the standing wrong. ::blush::
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2007-06-01 19:52:28
251.   C2Coke
246 LOL.
2007-06-01 19:52:58
252.   C2Coke
Who else than Proctor?
2007-06-01 19:55:04
253.   DougP
Very shady HBP. If anyone in the Yankee BP will retaliate, it's Proctor.
2007-06-01 19:55:57
254.   RIYank
I'm back.
You guys didn't get me any runs, but you pitched really well so I forgive you.
2007-06-01 19:56:28
255.   RIYank
253 No, he only does that when he feels he needs a couple of games off.
2007-06-01 19:57:04
256.   rbj
253 Indeed. I look for retaliation over the weekend.
2007-06-01 19:57:09
257.   Shaun P
254 You had some great comments early on, dude - I think you deserved the break.

Maybe the Yanks were just waiting for you to get back to score?

2007-06-01 19:59:54
258.   Shaun P
Mattpat111, I'm so sorry to hear about your dog. Hope you've enjoyed the game tonight.

209 weeping, the 'baseball stars' Simpsons episode is a classic. Try to watch it and not count how many of those guys eventually ended up playing for the Yanks. As pay attention to the chart of players Mr. Burns puts together - hilarious!

2007-06-01 20:02:03
259.   rockymtnyankee
A good game, but we are only 3-16 with RISP and 9 LOB.......We have to do better than that......can not count on Wakefield wildness, BBs, HBPs, WPs, PBs, hitter's counts etc., all the time.
2007-06-01 20:04:23
260.   C2Coke
259 Try and enjoy the win for bit as they don't come that often nowadays. The Yankees worked hard tonight, both pitchers and batters.
2007-06-01 20:06:10
261.   RIYank
257 Whoa! You guys were right!
2007-06-01 20:06:51
262.   rbj
Yeah, my man Proctor!
Obviously he wants a few days off.
2007-06-01 20:06:54
263.   RIYank
I didn't really mean to refer specifically to 257 there.
So Scotty gets himself a short stint after all.
2007-06-01 20:07:02
264.   rockymtnyankee
260. You got that right......Torre also worked hard....and got tossed!

And with DET losing again to CLEVE, we pick up a game in the Wild Card race.

2007-06-01 20:07:10
265.   pistolpete
Atta boy, Scotty.
2007-06-01 20:07:12
266.   cult of basebaal
WTF is proctor doing in this game?
2007-06-01 20:07:17
267.   C2Coke
253 You saw that coming, didn't you?
2007-06-01 20:07:53
268.   C2Coke
But now, who's pitching?
2007-06-01 20:08:14
269.   cult of basebaal
wait, what just happened there?
2007-06-01 20:08:37
270.   cult of basebaal
balls and strikes, i presume?
2007-06-01 20:08:38
271.   yankz
Proctor has stones.
2007-06-01 20:08:59
272.   RIYank
I think Proctor didn't mean to hit him, actually. Huh. Well, maybe. I think he was just brushing him back.

So now who? Someone crappy, please. I think the Vizier would be good here. Who's warming?

2007-06-01 20:09:03
273.   pistolpete
Well I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm looking forward to a free baserunner at some point over the weekend! :)
2007-06-01 20:09:19
274.   kdw
Hey, what happened? What did Proctor do?
2007-06-01 20:09:45
275.   Shaun P
Did EDSP just plunk Youkilis?

Boy, he must really want another couple of days off!

2007-06-01 20:09:54
276.   williamnyy23
I don't think that was on purpose, to be honest. Youkilis is hanging over the plate and the pitch wasn't that far inside. Think about it...if Proctor was going to hit him, why would he wait until he was deep in the count.
2007-06-01 20:10:00
277.   cult of basebaal
272 you mean The Deuce?
2007-06-01 20:10:07
278.   rbj
269 Scotty threw up & in to Youk hit - him on thes shoulder (actually just the front of the shirt) & gets tossed as the benches had both been warned.
2007-06-01 20:10:27
279.   RIYank
Okay, any V-pitcher will do. Villone, Vizcaino.
2007-06-01 20:10:31
280.   bartap74
They send one of our guys to first base, we send one of their guys to the morgue. It worked for the untouchables, but it seems like an extreme overreaction here.
2007-06-01 20:10:35
281.   JL25and3
You've got to be kidding. That was completely inexcusable.
2007-06-01 20:10:48
282.   DougP
267 I tell ya, Proctor throwing behind Betancourt came to mind the second YES cut to Proctor warming up after Cano's HBP.
2007-06-01 20:10:58
283.   Shaun P
272 If bringing in VizcaiNNNNNOOOOOOOOO now will make him unusable tomorrow, I say do it.

Otherwise, how about Britton?

2007-06-01 20:11:15
284.   JL25and3
278 That pitch was headed straight for Youkilis's head.
2007-06-01 20:11:41
285.   C2Coke
275 Yep! It looked a little intensional from Proctor's part but I thought Jorge looked a little surprised though.
2007-06-01 20:12:07
286.   RIYank
277 Who's The Deuce? The Vizier is Vizcaino. (I sometimes call him The Viscount, but that hasn't caught on.)
2007-06-01 20:12:18
287.   Mattpat11
I think he may have been throwing at him and lost the pitch. I'd like to think he didn't aim at Youkilis' face.
2007-06-01 20:12:22
288.   rbj
It does take away the inside of the plate for the rest of the weekend -- I'd love to see someone throw up & in to Ortiz at some point.
2007-06-01 20:12:35
289.   bartap74
I doubt Proctor was actually trying to hit him in the head.
2007-06-01 20:12:48
290.   seamus
did mattingly get tossed then?
2007-06-01 20:12:48
291.   DougP
278 I don't think they had been warned. I think Proctor got tossed because the ump thought it was clearly intentional.
2007-06-01 20:13:15
292.   bobtaco
286 I call him the Volcano
2007-06-01 20:13:37
293.   ChrisS
despite the late game shenanigans, I'm enjoying the fact the some of the early season slumpy hitters picked up two hits apiece tonight.
2007-06-01 20:13:46
294.   bartap74
A little late and totally off topic, but it occurred to me, if Lou Gehrig was the Iron Horse, does that make Pavano (or perhaps Drew) the Paper Pony?
2007-06-01 20:13:49
295.   pistolpete
Obviously you should never throw at a guy's head, but I'm glad the pitchers are at least finally standing up for their own.
2007-06-01 20:14:32
296.   RIYank
291 No, they had been warned earlier.
2007-06-01 20:14:43
297.   C2Coke
279 You got that right. Any V-pitcher would do. Now Mo's warming, thoughtless move by Proctor.
2007-06-01 20:14:49
298.   DougP
290 No, because there hadn't been any warning prior to Proctor being tossed.
2007-06-01 20:14:53
299.   Ramone
284 Calm down. There isn't a player in the major leagues who would intentionally throw at someone's head. Either he tried to brush him back and ran it too far inside or he tried to hit him and it ran up.

Either way, it wasn't on purpose. Look, you keep throwing at the Yankees and they are eventually going to throw back. Lord knows, they won't always be accurate.

2007-06-01 20:14:58
300.   Jim Dean
294 He who must not be named...
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2007-06-01 20:15:22
301.   bobtaco
Wow, I thought Joe had a short lease.
2007-06-01 20:15:24
302.   RIYank
Wow. Guidry not fooling around.
2007-06-01 20:15:32
303.   pistolpete
Wow, that was sort of embarrassing for Villone.
2007-06-01 20:15:34
304.   williamnyy23
Wow...that's sooo embarassing for Ron Villone.
2007-06-01 20:15:36
305.   bobtaco
2007-06-01 20:15:46
306.   rbj
294 More like paper p*ssy
With deep apologies to all the women folk here, who actually have more, ah, guts than Glass Carl.
2007-06-01 20:15:47
307.   seamus
well, mattingly is decisive.
2007-06-01 20:16:19
308.   bartap74
300 Yeah, yeah, I know, but I really like Paper Pony. It's got alliteration and everything.
2007-06-01 20:16:26
309.   yankz
Wow, Donnie really wants this one.
2007-06-01 20:16:32
310.   Jim Dean
Seriously - should have left in Farns. He was on and threw 9 pitches.
2007-06-01 20:16:39
311.   C2Coke
296 So did Donnie Baseball got thrown out as well?
2007-06-01 20:16:54
312.   cult of basebaal
The Deuce is what i call vizcaino

Felix Heredia was The Run Fairy

In honor of his same general latin namedness and same general awful suckiness, I dubbed Vizcaino The Run Fairy II: Electric Boogaloo

But that shortens much better to just ... The Deuce

i find the scatalogical connotations appropriate

The Vizier is a good, classy nickname ... unfortunately, i'd say it was utterly wasted on luis vizcaino

2007-06-01 20:16:59
313.   RIYank
Oh, I thought there was a warning earlier.
But you're right, if there had been then Mattingly would be gone.
2007-06-01 20:17:03
314.   DougP
Way to go, Donnie. We need this game.
2007-06-01 20:17:13
315.   Ramone
Finally, a manager who doesn't wait for a save situation to break out the fireman.
2007-06-01 20:18:18
316.   pistolpete
Not that it couldn't be 9-6 very soon with the way Mo was pitching earlier in the season...
2007-06-01 20:18:51
317.   williamnyy23
Again, why would Proctor wait until deep in the count to hit Youkilis? Also, Proctor was very angry. If he hit Youkilis, he wouldn't have argued so vehemently. Also, Posada seemed suprised. I just don't think that was intentional. Furthermore, if you want to make a point, get Youkilis out, and then plunk Papi.
2007-06-01 20:19:04
318.   C2Coke
310 And we know we won't see him again tomorrow or rest of the weekend for that matter.
2007-06-01 20:19:20
319.   BklynBmr
Jumpin' in here at the last minute, but sorry to hear the division race is over. It was a nice run, guys and gals, huh? Wild card? Stop it. No chance. It's officially football season in The Bronx, yo. And no Tiki...
2007-06-01 20:19:53
320.   RIYank
Ship. Oh ship.
A single, but one big frickin single.
2007-06-01 20:20:14
321.   Ramone
2007-06-01 20:20:26
322.   pistolpete
319 Ummm, thanks?
2007-06-01 20:20:26
323.   C2Coke
316 Man oh man.
2007-06-01 20:20:44
324.   rbj
Broken bat double play here.
2007-06-01 20:20:46
325.   yankz
Oh God, please Mo...
2007-06-01 20:20:48
326.   RIYank
319 I didn't know there was football in the Bronx.
2007-06-01 20:21:09
327.   pistolpete
Why is this the scariest 5 run lead ever?
2007-06-01 20:21:48
328.   Jim Dean
327 How times have changed, huh?
2007-06-01 20:22:18
329.   pistolpete
2007-06-01 20:22:24
330.   RIYank
Grrr, thought that was it.
2007-06-01 20:22:31
331.   C2Coke
This game should've ended 15 minutes ago.
2007-06-01 20:22:31
332.   DougP
Maybe Mo didn't have enough time to warm up because of Donnie's quick hook?

Okay, we got one out. We'll take it. One more.

2007-06-01 20:22:49
333.   Jim Dean
And Sterling with the double play call...
2007-06-01 20:22:53
334.   yankz
Good play by Mo.
2007-06-01 20:23:19
335.   RIYank
That's it. Okay. Okay.
2007-06-01 20:23:20
336.   bobtaco
2007-06-01 20:23:27
337.   DougP
2007-06-01 20:23:30
338.   rbj
Phew, well good night all.
2007-06-01 20:24:00
339.   pistolpete
Good job, Cano. Shut that crowd up. Didn't want to have them get ANY closer or we'd probably be in real trouble tomorrow...

Mo - eh. Kinda worried about him now.

2007-06-01 20:24:01
340.   cult of basebaal
nice, early squeak, then 2 ground ball outs ... nice
2007-06-01 20:24:13
341.   C2Coke

Interesting game. Gonna be an exciting weekend.

2007-06-01 20:24:17
342.   yankz

That long 1B from Manny scares me. But still...TWO IN A ROW!!!

2007-06-01 20:24:42
343.   williamnyy23
339 Worried? Manny hits a Wall Ball after he is rushed in the game and then he gets two weak grounders. What's to worry about?
2007-06-01 20:24:58
344.   RIYank
332 He gave up a single to Manny Ramirez, then two little grounders. I don't think we need an explanation -- Manny's really good, and he did get the cruddy hitters.
2007-06-01 20:25:38
345.   Jim Dean
2007-06-01 20:25:54
346.   cult of basebaal
339 i can't make up my mind, the stuff seems there, the command sometimes doesn't ... but how much of that is the lack of work? the yanks have had what, 5 whole save opportunities?
2007-06-01 20:26:14
347.   RIYank
335 336 A little scary, the synchrony. Also 343 344.
2007-06-01 20:26:41
348.   BklynBmr
326 No per se, brah. It's actually in Joisey, but there are fans in The Bronx. Work with me here...
2007-06-01 20:27:08
349.   cult of basebaal
2 hits for cano, 2 hits for abreu, 2 hits for cabrera ... cmon boys, lets get hot
2007-06-01 20:27:58
350.   weeping for brunnhilde
Reporter: "So, Scott, were you throwing at Youkilis' face, there, or what?"

Scott: "HA!"

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2007-06-01 20:28:01
351.   RIYank
345 Ha!

Big win. Buenos noches, hasta manana.

2007-06-01 20:28:15
352.   pistolpete
344 Point taken - I wasn't really paying attention to his warm-up time, so it's possible I'm overreacting.

Still, always makes me nervous to see him hit hard - even if it IS Manny.

2007-06-01 20:29:00
353.   BklynBmr
322 I'm kidding here, no?
2007-06-01 20:29:19
354.   RIYank
348 I know, but I never forgave the Giants for jumping the River.
Anyway, see youse tomorrow.
2007-06-01 20:30:26
355.   Jim Dean
Nice quote:

"Clip earned the right to stay," General Manager Brian Cashman said. "His last game, he didn't have his best stuff, yet he found a way to grind through it for five innings and give us a chance to win. Those things stand out, especially with young pitchers."

2007-06-01 20:30:46
356.   pistolpete
353 Who can tell these days?
2007-06-01 20:32:12
357.   seamus
355 good. i like clipp. you can't send down the yankee clippard anyhow.
2007-06-01 20:32:46
358.   williamnyy23
347 But nothing like 303 and 304.
2007-06-01 20:32:53
359.   seamus
357 i forget what game I was watching, but some dumb announcers for seattle or someone were convinced that they came up with the "Yankee Clipper" as if it wasn't obvious.
2007-06-01 20:33:38
360.   weeping for brunnhilde
111 My heartfelt condolences, Mattpat.
2007-06-01 20:33:40
361.   seamus
one last thing and then bed. is HA our new rally cry?
2007-06-01 20:34:15
362.   williamnyy23
361 HA!
2007-06-01 20:35:29
363.   yankz
Ha!- new team motto? At least, new BB motto?
2007-06-01 20:35:49
364.   yankz
361 All right, all this is getting creepy.
2007-06-01 20:38:00
365.   seamus
364 HA!
2007-06-01 20:38:39
366.   BklynBmr
354 I hear ya. I go back to the Earl Morrow days, 'nuff said.
2007-06-01 20:40:12
367.   BklynBmr
356 Good point ;-)
2007-06-01 20:41:39
368.   weeping for brunnhilde
224 He had a great hit earlier, like the old Melky.

When was it, like the sixth or seventh? He was off-balance, but still managed to keep the hands back enough to drive it to left center.

A very impressive piece of hitting.

2007-06-01 20:42:01
369.   Jim Dean
111 Yeah, bummer dude. We had our family dog for 19 years. He died and my dad was at the pound the next day. He's convinced only dogs truly understand him.

Meanwhile, Sterling having difficulty recounting the highlights.

2007-06-01 20:42:31
370.   Jim Dean
361 Ha!
2007-06-01 20:42:55
371.   weeping for brunnhilde
361 HA!
2007-06-01 20:45:41
372.   weeping for brunnhilde
I hope we fucking light up Schilling.

Oh God, look at me, trash-talking.

But really, I'd love to just bury these clowns this weekend, especially Schilling.

2007-06-01 20:46:33
373.   3rd gen yankee fan
2007-06-01 20:46:57
374.   3rd gen yankee fan
2007-06-01 20:47:00
375.   cult of basebaal
361 if this team goes on a run now, we might just have to get t-shirts made
2007-06-01 20:47:27
376.   williamnyy23
2007-06-01 20:47:59
377.   weeping for brunnhilde
It's true, I'm really impressed by Chien-Ming.

It's great to see someone battle like that.

2007-06-01 20:48:02
378.   weeping for brunnhilde
It's true, I'm really impressed by Chien-Ming.

It's great to see someone battle like that.

2007-06-01 20:49:37
379.   Jim Dean



Division lost?



2007-06-01 20:51:24
380.   3rd gen yankee fan
111 My condolences as well. My cat passed over the same way. Still haven't gotten over it.
2007-06-01 20:52:08
381.   weeping for brunnhilde
I love Kenny and his Earl Weaver stories.

He cracks me up.

2007-06-01 20:54:18
382.   weeping for brunnhilde
379 :)

So here's the thing, I'm hoping that we can somehow manage to sweep so we get in Boston's head a little.

I know some Boston fans and they really do have a fatalist streak in them, so perhaps if we can manage to get in their heads this weekend that'll help us in September.

Wouldn't it be nice?

2007-06-01 20:55:54
383.   BklynBmr
372 While it would be wonderful to send Schill to the showers early, it does not matter, lad. Nothing matters. Our only hope against hope is the the Wild Card. Chin up, Champions, your fate is sealed. Man up and strive for second best — in the AL, that is!

It's June 1st. The AL East been decided. So has been decreed.

2007-06-01 20:59:05
384.   Jim Dean
382 You could also point out that they lost their starting 3B and starting RF in the same game while their big time Yankee nemesis got shelled for the third game in a row.
2007-06-01 21:01:57
385.   williamnyy23
Proctor agrees with me :)
2007-06-01 21:05:34
386.   JL25and3
What was that e-mail address we were supposed to report trolls to?
2007-06-01 21:08:01
387.   weeping for brunnhilde
Derek, smirking, re: Joe: "He's animated sometimes, maybe you guys don't see it."
2007-06-01 21:08:33
388.   rilkefan
2007-06-01 21:09:20
389.   weeping for brunnhilde
383 :)

All the same, let's light up Schilling!

2007-06-01 21:10:58
390.   weeping for brunnhilde
388 :)
2007-06-01 21:23:29
391.   weeping for brunnhilde
227 Yeah, that was a really, really fine play.

I was actually surprised Derek got to that ball.

Felt good, eh?

2007-06-01 21:26:56
392.   joejoejoe
I think the Yankees might just come all the way back if they embrace this new "cheating villain" persona. Joe Torre should start wearing a mustache like Snidely Whiplash.
2007-06-01 21:29:32
393.   yankz
392 Or Bobby V...remember that game?

HA!- 2007's turning point?

2007-06-01 21:30:32
394.   Chyll Will
390 I missed the fun again, huh?

Well, time to eat a piece of chicken and go to sleep. Happy Birthday, B! zzzzz...

(I really am going to make an A-Rod T-shirt with HA! where the number would be. I'll be awesome...)

2007-06-01 21:32:43
395.   Chyll Will
392 Gator's way ahead of you on that one...
2007-06-01 21:39:41
396.   weeping for brunnhilde
393 I most certainly do.
2007-06-01 21:40:56
397.   weeping for brunnhilde
394 Yes you will, Will, yes you will!
2007-06-01 21:54:03
398.   underdog
I'm not even a Yankee fan and I hope they light up Schilling. Can't stand that guy, never could. Here's hoping they tell him to stick a, er, sock in it!
2007-06-01 22:09:19
399.   weeping for brunnhilde
You know, before the season started, I said I wouldn't be surprised if Melky hit .320.

At this point, I think .280 is a reasonable goal. He could do that.

And Cano, I think he could reach .300, which would be just fine.

I so want these guys to succeed.


2007-06-01 22:09:53
400.   weeping for brunnhilde
398 Cheers!
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2007-06-01 22:17:02
401.   yankz
399 Definitely for Cano. I've posted the numbers before, but this is the time of year when he really heats up.
2007-06-01 22:25:51
402.   weeping for brunnhilde
I was just outside reminiscing about Duque.

I think his finest moment with us, aside from the Cleveland game in '98 was in 2002 against California, where he came in in the early innings and shut down California until those back-to-back homeruns in around the 7th. That was a fine performance, much like the one Moose gave us against Boston in that Game 7.

Good times.

Anyone remember who started that game against California?

2007-06-02 07:01:50
403.   Chyll Will
(cricket, cricket...)
2007-06-02 09:15:14
404.   OldYanksFan
2007-06-02 09:16:47
405.   Chyll Will
2007-06-02 09:35:55
406.   Jim Dean
2007-06-02 09:38:26
407.   Chyll Will
I don't know what anyone's complaining about. At least he didn't say what other players would say...
2007-06-02 09:38:50
408.   Chyll Will
2007-06-02 12:14:52
409.   Jim Dean
Ugh - Nieves and Mfhdfxjv (you know cause Joe couldn't have his third string catcher in the game too). At least Melky is in the field but it means Damon is sitting.

Red Sox

1. Julio Lugo, SS
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
6. Mike Lowell, 3B
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Wily Mo Pena, RF
9. Coco Crisp, CF

SP - Curt Schilling


1. Bobby Abreu, RF
2. Derek Jeter, SS
3. Hideki Matsui, LF
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Jorge Posada, DH
6. Robinson Cano, 2B
7. Melky Cabrera, CF
8. Doug Mientkiewicz, 1B
9. Wil Nieves, C

SP - Mike Mussina

2007-06-02 12:32:48
410.   Zack
Pete Abe reports no suspension for Proctor. If he wants days off, he'll have to try harder...

Why Joe throws out the worst lineup in our toughest matchup beats me. I understand Nieves, but, hey, we're 2-0 with Phelps starting and hes done nothing but hit and get on base...

2007-06-02 12:53:47
411.   weeping for brunnhilde
A funny little anecdote, and a propos.

So I'm playing ball with my 4 1/2 year old in the backyard.

I hit the ball past him, into the dense thicket of greenery and started to make for second base.

The kid comes running up and tags me.

"Aw, you got me," I said.

A few second later, he starts laughing and says, "I tagged you with an empty glove!"

Very impressed with his own wiles, he was.

Sure enough, the glove was empty, and we both started laughing.

Bush, or just savvy baseball?

You decide.

2007-06-02 13:02:58
412.   thelarmis
411 adorable!
2007-06-02 13:06:06
413.   weeping for brunnhilde

That's why Arod exasperates me.

He's so easy to strike out.

If he shortens up his swing there, he might have poked it into right.

Damn it.

It's just so painful to watch those strikeouts.

Oh well, maybe he'll get him next time.

2007-06-02 13:07:32
414.   Eirias
Julian Tavarez is a crazy, crazy man.
2007-06-02 13:09:32
415.   yankz
Most of the Red Sox players I can tolerate. But I absolutely hate the majority of their fans. And I'm sure they say the same about us.
2007-06-02 13:10:24
416.   yankz
413 I disagree. It wasn't like he fell over swinging. It was just a good pitch, IMO. Schilling does that sometimes.
2007-06-02 13:11:44
417.   rbj
Hmm, I guess Phelps is the second catcher today, else you lose the DH.
2007-06-02 13:12:35
418.   rbj
Oh, jeez. No inside pitching today?
2007-06-02 13:12:53
419.   bobtaco
damn you D Piddy.
2007-06-02 13:16:52
420.   rbj
Oh sure, Derek, just making sure that you're shown on SportCenter tonight.
2007-06-02 13:17:01
421.   DougP
Nice recovery by Jeter. I'm glad Youk didn't get up with runners on base that inning.
2007-06-02 13:18:11
422.   DougP
417 I think that's right, but Torre could also have used Phelps at first, and then if something happens to Nieves, move Phelps to catcher and put in Minky, without affecting Jorge or the DH.
2007-06-02 13:21:28
423.   rbj
422 Yup. Moose seems to be better with Nieves, so that's not a problem, but Yanks should have another bat in the lineup, not another glove.
2007-06-02 13:22:52
424.   Jim Dean
2007-06-02 13:23:39
425.   bobtaco
Melky doing a Fisk!
2007-06-02 13:24:17
426.   thelarmis
425 and also a giambi with the tongue wag!
2007-06-02 13:24:59
427.   Chyll Will
Did Melky just ask the Pesky Pole if he could cut in front?
2007-06-02 13:26:45
428.   Chyll Will
Well, according to GameDay (yep, I'm working today, too), at least Nieves is making contact.
2007-06-02 13:31:07
429.   3rd gen yankee fan
HA! I mean, HI!
2007-06-02 13:31:52
430.   rbj
Red Sox are whiners.
2007-06-02 13:32:04
431.   Chyll Will
429 (We should all form a conga line...)
2007-06-02 13:32:51
432.   bobtaco
Cano is starting to become a magician around second lately...
2007-06-02 13:33:24
433.   Mattpat11
I'm liking these slow developing double plays.
2007-06-02 13:33:47
434.   Jim Dean
2007-06-02 13:34:56
435.   thelarmis
holy hot blonde!!!
2007-06-02 13:36:19
436.   Chyll Will
434 (duh duh Dah-duh Dah) HA! (duh-duh duh duh Dah-duh Dah) HA!
2007-06-02 13:36:35
437.   3rd gen yankee fan
re: Fox's reporting on Proctor's non-suspension: The guy mentioned that the Red Sox restrained Youkilis. Isn't that odd? Every video I saw of it showed POSADA restraining Youk.
2007-06-02 13:36:36
438.   Mattpat11
McCarver: I ran into John in the dugout.

No. At that point, you're actively looking for the man. It was not a chance meeting.

2007-06-02 13:39:32
439.   Chyll Will
437 It was only emlbazoned on the front page of every news section in the city. Damn these lyin' eyes!
2007-06-02 13:40:05
440.   Mattpat11
Well, I can see what Matsui didn't like about that pitch.

It was...

Oh fuck it.

2007-06-02 13:40:07
441.   Chyll Will
439 Sports section, sorry...
2007-06-02 13:45:34
442.   JeremyM
I'm not watching the game and relying on Gameday, but why didn't Moose give Pena some junk on that third pitch? I wouldn't have went with a fastball right there.
2007-06-02 13:48:29
443.   Chyll Will
I don't have to watch it on TV to know the crowd tried again, right?
2007-06-02 13:54:13
444.   thelarmis
nice AB by jorgie
2007-06-02 13:54:31
445.   Mattpat11
Are they gonna mention what a dirty little shit Pedroia was tonight?
2007-06-02 13:55:43
446.   Chyll Will
445 What did he do?
2007-06-02 13:57:00
447.   Mattpat11
He tried to lean into a pitch and the umpire caught him. So much cleaner than throwing an elbow, right little guy?
2007-06-02 13:59:49
448.   rbj
447 Isn't that just a gritty, smart baseball play, a la AJ Pierzynski deking out the ump in the '05 playoffs? It's only cheating if the Yankees do it.
2007-06-02 13:59:56
449.   Mattpat11
Perhaps Doug should look into cleaning his helmet.
2007-06-02 14:00:56
450.   Eirias
Doug makes an Out. That's good, actually. With Melky homering and Doug getting a a hit, I was afraid that two of the seven seals were starting to open.
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2007-06-02 14:03:00
451.   Chyll Will
448 The Yanks must've cheated a lot...
2007-06-02 14:09:47
452.   rbj
Well Moose isn't going to be happy about the rain delay.
2007-06-02 14:09:59
453.   3rd gen yankee fan
So. Sprinkle delay.
2007-06-02 14:11:26
454.   NJYankee41
I'm sure Moose is gonna love this rain delay.

How stupid is it that McCarver and Buck regularly call the Cards games and Girardi is a Yankee announcer, but McCarver and Buck always do that Yankee games on FOX and Girardi is doing the Cards game on FOX today?

2007-06-02 14:11:32
455.   Chyll Will
Oh well, back to work...
2007-06-02 14:14:39
456.   yankz
435 Yeah dude, she was hot.

431 Feeling HA HA HA!

2007-06-02 14:15:04
457.   Chyll Will
454 They want their premiere team in the booth. It's like dressing a Twinkie with garnish and hollandaise sauce.
2007-06-02 14:17:08
458.   Zack
Think the downpour had something to to do with Moose's lack on control and runners on 2nd and 3rd now? Hmm, oh well...Cranky Moose will have to deal
2007-06-02 14:19:31
459.   ric

what are you even talking about? he got out of the way? youre too much...

2007-06-02 14:23:03
460.   NJYankee41
457 I understand why they do it, I just think its kind of dumb considering they aren't very good (even thougn they are considered FOX's A-team) beacause I don't know anyone who tunes into the Yankee-Red Sox games because they have a broadcasting duo they like.

Please forgive me I'm bored and I just felt like ripping FOX cause I don't like when the games are on it. HA!

2007-06-02 14:27:34
461.   Chyll Will
460 Not at all, perfectly understandable... I'd probably like it better if the game was on public access...
2007-06-02 14:27:45
462.   yankz
459 Are you kidding me? The umpire went out to talk to Mussina about it after Tiny Little Gritty Hypocritical Bitch tried to "play the game the right way."
2007-06-02 14:28:36
463.   yankz
Oh my God. Don't read LoHud.
2007-06-02 14:29:33
464.   Mattpat11
2007-06-02 14:30:14
465.   3rd gen yankee fan
2007-06-02 14:30:23
466.   bobtaco
Jesus Christ. Clemens is hurt. Groin. Igawa Monday. Argggghhhhhh!

2007-06-02 14:30:38
467.   NJYankee41
2007-06-02 14:32:47
468.   Mattpat11
There is some good news. if Igawa bombs, (as is his specialty) maybe that will end that experiment.
2007-06-02 14:32:57
469.   rbj
So is this sort of like an initiation, to be a starter for the Yanks this year you have to go through an injury first?
2007-06-02 14:33:08
470.   NJYankee41
So much for the Clemens-Hughes cavalry I was so hoping for by mid June.
2007-06-02 14:34:08
471.   thelarmis
what the hell is going on this year? this is ludicrous! it's gotta be the curse of bernie williams. gotta be...
2007-06-02 14:35:35
472.   Chyll Will
I guess I should stop watching before I get injured, too...
2007-06-02 14:35:36
473.   bobtaco
So this is the point of the game Moose melts down an then has the rain as an excuse, right?
2007-06-02 14:37:25
474.   ric
clemens isnt paid his big league $ until he comes up right?
2007-06-02 14:38:01
475.   murphy
stick a fork in moose. he's done.
2007-06-02 14:39:12
476.   matt nokes forever
The curse of Bernie Williams? Try the curse of Carla Pavano... oh, and btw, thank god moose has his that-rain-delay-completely-destroyed-my-momentum face going...
2007-06-02 14:40:23
477.   3rd gen yankee fan
Triple play.
2007-06-02 14:41:50
478.   Chyll Will
477 I wish I had cable...
2007-06-02 14:42:24
479.   murphy
why is that legal?
2007-06-02 14:42:47
480.   bobtaco
2007-06-02 14:43:01
481.   yankz
Go Cano.
2007-06-02 14:43:17
482.   NJYankee41
When Red Sox do that kind of shit its gritty and hard-nosed baseball. When others do that its not the way the game is played right.
2007-06-02 14:43:23
483.   yankz
Oh, and the Red Sox can never take the moral high ground.
2007-06-02 14:43:33
484.   ric

its only legal against the yanks. its part of the yanks bias conspiracy.

2007-06-02 14:43:36
485.   3rd gen yankee fan
478 Sorry Chyll, I was just calling for one.
2007-06-02 14:43:39
486.   thelarmis
if arod did that on the basepaths, it'd be national news and he'd be a jerk. whatever. nice play robbie!
2007-06-02 14:43:57
487.   murphy

i want a brawl. i want it now.

someone (hopefully moose will be gone) needs to throw at lowell.

legal or not, that sh!t is ugly.

2007-06-02 14:44:14
488.   bobtaco
Wow, a called third strike. I forgot what that is like for Yankee pitchers.
2007-06-02 14:45:37
489.   yankz
484 Your sarcasm doesn't really work when it's partly true. 482 and 486 are spot on.
2007-06-02 14:46:45
490.   Zack
So already in thsi game you ahve littly Dusty Pedrioia trying to elan into a pitch and get Mosoe ejected (bush league), and Lowell literally elbowing Cano to the ground to stop their vaunted C-wearing captain from killing a rally with his patented DP (beyond bush league). Ric, your team is sure showing its class...

:) I'm just trying to step into the shoes of a sox fan, did I sound like one?

2007-06-02 14:47:10
491.   matt nokes forever
Listen to Buck praising the "heads up play by Lowell"... but if it was A-Rod, I guarantee FOX would be running another montage of "Alex's most bush league moments"... this double standard is killing me
2007-06-02 14:47:50
492.   Zack
pardon my terrible typing
2007-06-02 14:48:00
493.   yankz
Wow, that really was a great play by Cano.

Black hole coming up.

Meanwhile, the FOX guys are actually saying something true. They're echoing 482.

2007-06-02 14:48:05
494.   Chyll Will
487 Yeah, I want Wil Nieves to get drilled in the thigh so he can drop the bat and be like, Yo WTF!! and rush out to the mound to discuss politics...
2007-06-02 14:48:12
495.   NJYankee41
Hopefully this long delay will affect Shilling. I can hope right?
2007-06-02 14:48:51
496.   murphy
buck and mccarver just agreed with 486.
2007-06-02 14:49:02
497.   yankz
490 No, what you said was actually true.
2007-06-02 14:50:18
498.   bobtaco
Bobby! HA!
2007-06-02 14:50:39
499.   yankz
Clemens says it's fatigue in the groin. I guess it's better than some kind of strain...
2007-06-02 14:50:45
500.   ric

how about lets just keep a tally for the end of the season so that the questionable plays can be weighed to determine which team is more "classy" ;)

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2007-06-02 14:50:46
501.   ric

how about lets just keep a tally for the end of the season so that the questionable plays can be weighed to determine which team is more "classy" ;)

2007-06-02 14:50:59
502.   yankz
Jeter, king of the GIDP.
2007-06-02 14:51:27
503.   ric
first double post! yay!
2007-06-02 14:52:04
504.   Simone
The news about Clemens is horrific. The Yankees are cursed this season.

Lowell's play was dirty. This isn't football. Somebody better hit him before this game is over.

2007-06-02 14:54:04
505.   yankz
Clippard must be counting the days until he strains something.
2007-06-02 14:55:37
506.   bobtaco
504 At least he didn't try and pitch through it and then really hurt himself.
2007-06-02 14:57:12
507.   yankz
Pedroia is quickly reaching Varitek status in my book. F'ing hypocrites.
2007-06-02 15:00:07
508.   Chyll Will
Maybe we do need Dmitri Young on this team. Wouldn't have he gone f'in'-ape-shyt on somebody from the dugout by now?
2007-06-02 15:00:29
509.   yankz
Meanwhile, check out Boy Wonder's offseason:

Julio Lugo: Below average (OPS+ of 63)
J.D. Drew: Below average (74); slugging .310- Mink is at .372
Daisuke Matsuzaka: Below average (ERA+ of 92)

Man, he's gotten lucky the players already there stepped up.

2007-06-02 15:00:29
510.   bobtaco
Moose is killing me.
2007-06-02 15:03:14
511.   murphy
IBB erases "fire" created by HBP.
2007-06-02 15:03:26
512.   NJYankee41
Wow... I think I have a crush on Youklis now.
2007-06-02 15:04:16
513.   C2Coke
Moose has yet to have a great start, right? Maybe one or two quality starts?
2007-06-02 15:04:55
514.   murphy
you can't intentionally walk the bases loaded and then pitch around the next guy.
2007-06-02 15:05:41
515.   bobtaco
holy cow, a Chris Britton sighting! Like seeing some rare form of wild life.
2007-06-02 15:06:52
516.   3rd gen yankee fan
2007-06-02 15:07:01
517.   C2Coke
515 So he's still going on Monday to make room for...Kei Igawa, right?
2007-06-02 15:08:45
518.   ric

in fairness, whats the value of cashmans off season acquisitons (igawa, nieves, doug?) the difference is that the sox players mentioned are underperforming their career averages.

2007-06-02 15:10:31
519.   NJYankee41
518 Career averages? I think he meant league averages.
2007-06-02 15:10:58
520.   yankz
518 Cashman gets bashed with criticism, especially around here. Anyone who still calls Theo "Boy Wonder" or anything like that is a joke.

As is the financial difference between Igawa/Nieves/Mink and DiceK/Drew/Lugo.

2007-06-02 15:11:20
521.   yankz
519 Yes, I did, thanks.
2007-06-02 15:12:17
522.   yankz
OK Posada, gotta deliver.
2007-06-02 15:12:30
523.   bobtaco
Hit and run with Posada?
2007-06-02 15:14:33
524.   NJYankee41
2007-06-02 15:14:44
525.   ric

i know what he meant, im pointing out career averages becasue his argument would make a gm acquisition that acquired someone like albert pujos categorized as below average

2007-06-02 15:14:47
526.   yankz
Oh HELL yes!
2007-06-02 15:14:50
527.   bobtaco
Hit and trot :-D !!!
2007-06-02 15:14:50
528.   Jim Dean
513 Depends on what happens next inning, but Moose has right now just as many quality starts as DeSalvo (2 each)

Ha Jorge!

2007-06-02 15:14:55
529.   Zack
Jorge! Awesome!
2007-06-02 15:15:17
530.   C2Coke
Jorge is da MAN!!!
2007-06-02 15:15:56
531.   vockins

That AB ruled. Posada is on some other plane right now. Great stuff.

2007-06-02 15:16:27
532.   3rd gen yankee fan
2007-06-02 15:16:31
533.   Chyll Will
2007-06-02 15:17:02
534.   Zack
I love Posada's scruff this year. It fits his goofy mug and red-ass 'tude
2007-06-02 15:17:47
535.   matt nokes forever
HA! Jorge!
2007-06-02 15:18:08
536.   yankz
525 What the heck does that mean?

What I'm saying: Theo spent a ton of money on players he thought would perform. They haven't.

Are you comparing Drew or DiceK to Pujols? Where are you going with that?

FWIW, Pujols has been above average (135). Any GM that steals him from the Cards is the greatest GM ever.

2007-06-02 15:18:25
537.   Mattpat11
In 18 IP this year, Cur has given up 15 runs.

I'm sure that's dominating and vintage Pedro Martinez.

2007-06-02 15:19:08
538.   NJYankee41
525 But not only are they playing below their own career standards, they are below average among all players. What is your argument? And no one is defending Cashman's signings of Igawa, Nieves and Minky
2007-06-02 15:20:07
539.   bobtaco
Melky has flipped the switch!
2007-06-02 15:20:13
540.   yankz
Melky is on fire.
2007-06-02 15:20:40
541.   Zack
Melkman puttin on a show
2007-06-02 15:21:10
542.   Mattpat11
538"And no one is defending Cashman's signings of Igawa, Nieves and Minky"

I beg to differ.

2007-06-02 15:21:13
543.   matt nokes forever
Three hits for Melky? If menska;sjdfkl;j does anything productive and joe brings in britton to pitch, we should all just brace for the impact of the apocolypse...
2007-06-02 15:21:25
544.   NJYankee41
I like what I'm seeing from Abreu, Melky and Cano the last couple of games
2007-06-02 15:21:37
545.   3rd gen yankee fan
two for Melky, woo hoo!
2007-06-02 15:21:38
546.   vockins
If Melky hits for the cycle against Shilling and one of the best bullpens in baseball, my perspective on this season will get a lot brighter.


2007-06-02 15:21:40
547.   Zack
Torre is a genius for starting Doug-out today :)
2007-06-02 15:21:45
548.   randym77
And Minky's flipped the switch, too!

Either that, or Boston just sucks. ;-)

2007-06-02 15:22:00
549.   yankz
537 A couple weeks ago, River Ave Blues linked to a Bill Simmons article where he called Schilling the best Red Sox pitcher ever.

WTF? This guy is paid big bucks to freaking babble about the Red Sox, and he says something that idiotic.

2007-06-02 15:22:06
550.   Matt J
June has been officially renamed to Melktober.
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2007-06-02 15:22:11
551.   NJYankee41
542 I meant in the context of that specific argument.
2007-06-02 15:22:52
552.   Chyll Will
2007-06-02 15:23:01
553.   3rd gen yankee fan
The Apocalypse!!!
2007-06-02 15:23:07
554.   matt nokes forever
yankee offense sucking + wakefield/38pitches = allllll better
2007-06-02 15:23:50
555.   Mattpat11
551 Ah. Because I know I've gotten into major arguments over the Igawa signing here.

In case anyone was wondering, I don't like it.

2007-06-02 15:24:11
556.   yankz
Ah, Nieves. So terrible.
2007-06-02 15:24:34
557.   NJYankee41
555 We know ;)
2007-06-02 15:26:02
558.   ric

this is my point... youre really cant blame a gm (epstein) when players are underperforming their career averages (just like pujols is doing, thats why i mentioned him- im not comparing them) thats it. just like you cant ridicule cashmen for acquiring abreu for the same reasons. its silly to do that.

2007-06-02 15:26:18
559.   matt nokes forever
Mr. Nieves, would you consider added a second L to your first name? You know, try to shake things up... i'm sure mink has a few extra letter that he'ld loan you...
2007-06-02 15:27:36
560.   bobtaco
So how long does Moose get to stay in?
2007-06-02 15:28:01
561.   matt nokes forever
All this GIDP, K, backwards K stuff must get boring for Wil... don't you think he sits up at night fantasizing about the mendoza line?
2007-06-02 15:28:12
562.   matt nokes forever
All this GIDP, K, backwards K stuff must get boring for Wil... don't you think he sits up at night fantasizing about the mendoza line?
2007-06-02 15:28:53
563.   Mattpat11
Of course.
2007-06-02 15:29:28
564.   murphy
that's the exact opposite of what should have happened (HBP)!!
2007-06-02 15:29:35
565.   matt nokes forever
to answer your question bobtaco... too long
2007-06-02 15:29:51
566.   bobtaco
561 The guy is useless into the 5th and 6th
2007-06-02 15:29:58
567.   matt nokes forever
i repeat
2007-06-02 15:30:19
568.   Mattpat11
I hate baseball
2007-06-02 15:30:21
569.   NJYankee41
Not again. He has to knock someone down before they go 4 in a row.
2007-06-02 15:30:54
570.   bobtaco
Joe should leave him in there to see if he can equal Chase Wright.
2007-06-02 15:31:21
571.   JL25and3
I really hate Mussina sometimes. This year, more often than ever.
2007-06-02 15:31:26
572.   3rd gen yankee fan
So! Chris Britton is ready to go, right?
2007-06-02 15:31:37
573.   Zack
WEll that sucked. And here comes Proctor yet again
2007-06-02 15:31:54
574.   murphy
ok, boys and girls, i can see where this game is headed. this just isn't our year.

should i go see pirates of the carib. or knocked up?

2007-06-02 15:32:29
575.   matt nokes forever
Joe should leave him in there until he has the balls to knock someone --- anyone, anyone at all --- the fuck down... jesus, do we have to stay away away away on every single batter because the front of their jersey says sox? wtf!
2007-06-02 15:32:34
576.   Chyll Will
Thanks, Easter bunny >:'
2007-06-02 15:32:53
577.   Zack
574 Knocked up was darn funny and smart
2007-06-02 15:34:02
578.   bobtaco
They really can't get a consistent called third strike.
2007-06-02 15:34:05
579.   NJYankee41
Its hard for me to imagine Moose ever being very effective again. He has lost so much of his stuff and he refuses to alter the way he pitches being he is so stubborn.
2007-06-02 15:35:40
580.   Chyll Will
579 Next year is an option year, so if he wants to keep doing his own thing, he can take it over to Shea...
2007-06-02 15:35:42
581.   bobtaco
579 Add to that, he is only really effective until about 80 pitches.
2007-06-02 15:36:33
582.   Chyll Will
580 Or am I mixing that up with Andy?
2007-06-02 15:37:08
583.   NJYankee41
580 Club option? I thought it was just a straight 2 year deal.
2007-06-02 15:37:22
584.   bobtaco
Yes, please bring in Myers to face Ortiz, Joe. I'm sure this is the time he will come through. Has to happen one out of twenty times, right?
2007-06-02 15:37:26
585.   NJYankee41
582 I think Andy
2007-06-02 15:37:33
586.   Chyll Will
581 G.O. Jared Wright...
2007-06-02 15:37:40
587.   kdw
582 I thought Moose was on a 1-year deal, Andy has the player option.
2007-06-02 15:38:54
588.   NJYankee41
587 I think Moose signed a two-year $24 mil deal.
2007-06-02 15:39:01
589.   bobtaco
OK Scott, inside heat.
2007-06-02 15:39:32
590.   bobtaco
I wonder if Damon gets to that ball. I really like Melky in CF.
2007-06-02 15:39:41
591.   randym77
574 One review I saw said, "Pirates of the Caribbean is no better than the Pirates of the Ohio, Allegheny, and Monongahela."
2007-06-02 15:39:58
592.   Chyll Will
585 I'm tired, I've worked over sixty hours two weeks in a row and all I have to show for it are steep tax increases and... well, that's it.
2007-06-02 15:40:22
593.   kdw
587 Ah, thanks.
2007-06-02 15:43:23
594.   matt nokes forever
Why do I not feel comfortable knowing that big papi and manny are coming up soon and Boston's other Japanese import is warming up in the pen?
2007-06-02 15:44:08
595.   bobtaco
594 This game has heartbreaker and Torre loss written all over it.
2007-06-02 15:45:22
596.   thelarmis
bull-fucking-shit!!! man, we are getting some lousy calls against us.

moose is signed for 2 years...

2007-06-02 15:45:46
597.   matt nokes forever
Bobby just adding another K to his collection... I wonder if he keeps them in a scrapbook or a glass case... hmm..
2007-06-02 15:46:00
598.   3rd gen yankee fan
I hope Jeter smacks the sh** out of Piñata.
2007-06-02 15:47:04
599.   bobtaco
599 It's time for him to win the game.
2007-06-02 15:49:28
600.   bobtaco
and the Captain says... HA!
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2007-06-02 15:49:42
601.   matt nokes forever
2007-06-02 15:49:47
602.   thelarmis
Captain Power!!!
2007-06-02 15:50:24
603.   3rd gen yankee fan
599 Damn straight!!!!
2007-06-02 15:50:26
604.   thelarmis
597 he did not go around.
2007-06-02 15:50:33
605.   rsmith51
I just told Jeter to hit one over the monster. And he listened to me. The Yankees are actually on here in Chicago on a Sat. afternoon. I am shocked.
2007-06-02 15:50:44
606.   matt nokes forever
C'mon HA!-Deki... b2b
2007-06-02 15:50:46
607.   Chyll Will
599 You were saying to yourself? >;)
2007-06-02 15:51:46
608.   3rd gen yankee fan
605 Tell Matsui to hit one out too.
2007-06-02 15:51:47
609.   Chyll Will
604 He did on that one >;)
2007-06-02 15:52:04
610.   rsmith51
Of course, I just told Matsui to put one around Pesky's pole and he didn't listen to me. Oh well.
2007-06-02 15:52:17
611.   thelarmis
605 please tell the bullpen not to give up anymore runs today. thanks!
2007-06-02 15:52:51
612.   ric

did you yell that out loud?

2007-06-02 15:52:51
613.   Chyll Will
Bucky Jeter...
2007-06-02 15:55:50
614.   bobtaco
611 Word. I guess Andy can't come in today, huh?
2007-06-02 15:56:29
615.   Knuckles
2 pitching changes in one inning is excruciating, especially when the second one is to turn Jorge around to bat righty, where his OPS is 150pts higher than as a LHB this year...

Hope he puts one over the monstah.

2007-06-02 16:02:18
616.   bobtaco
Wow, no Myers.
2007-06-02 16:02:36
617.   Chyll Will
I don't like this, Sarge...
2007-06-02 16:03:05
618.   Mattpat11
Proctor's not pitching to Manny is he?
2007-06-02 16:03:07
619.   bobtaco
Proctor better not pitch to Manny.
2007-06-02 16:04:12
620.   Mattpat11
What the hell was that?
2007-06-02 16:04:21
621.   randym77
Abreu is still scairt of the fence.
2007-06-02 16:04:33
622.   bobtaco
Shef would have had that one.
2007-06-02 16:04:57
623.   Mattpat11
Oh Thank God.
2007-06-02 16:05:06
624.   Yankees Brasil
Here we go again..
2007-06-02 16:05:44
625.   Mattpat11
Is there an uglier man in baseball than Kevin Youkilis?

Possibly Jay Gibbons.

2007-06-02 16:05:51
626.   Eirias
622 Fortunately, Sanchez and Whelan wouldn't have let him hit it.
2007-06-02 16:06:10
627.   matt nokes forever
Tavares... he looks like a burn victim
2007-06-02 16:06:20
628.   matt nokes forever
Tavares... he looks like a burn victim
2007-06-02 16:06:26
629.   bobtaco
He's going to walk him, you know it.
2007-06-02 16:06:28
630.   OldYanksFan
Is NoMaas counting Abreu losses?
2007-06-02 16:07:01
631.   Mattpat11
622 From the hospital bed?
2007-06-02 16:07:15
632.   bobtaco
626 Unfortunately it isn't 2008 or 2009.
2007-06-02 16:07:29
633.   Yankees Brasil
Throw a strike Proctor..
2007-06-02 16:07:39
634.   Chyll Will
630 They should be counting Proctor losses...
2007-06-02 16:07:53
635.   Mattpat11
This is all a clever plan.
2007-06-02 16:08:04
636.   bobtaco
Hello, Bruney? We have a situation here.
2007-06-02 16:08:12
637.   Yankees Brasil
or not..
2007-06-02 16:08:18
638.   NJYankee41
Proctor cannot pitch against the Sox plain and simple
2007-06-02 16:08:32
639.   Mattpat11
630 That isn't "FUNNY" so no.
2007-06-02 16:08:47
640.   Zack
Um, so, what the heck is Joe thinking in this inning? Does he realize we have guys in the BP NOT named Proctor?
2007-06-02 16:08:57
641.   Mattpat11
631 that should be 626
2007-06-02 16:09:20
642.   Mattpat11
Pull him.
2007-06-02 16:09:20
643.   Mattpat11
Pull him.
2007-06-02 16:09:24
644.   matt nokes forever
Could someone please draw Scott a map to the strike zone... I believe he's lost
2007-06-02 16:09:25
645.   bobtaco
I don't know why Joe would have left Proctor in there. It's so obvious this would happen.
2007-06-02 16:09:34
646.   NJYankee41
What baffles me is when its so apparent that Proctor doesn't have it in a given game and Torre doesn't take him out.
2007-06-02 16:09:41
647.   Zack
Joe and his BP mismanagement costing us another
2007-06-02 16:11:53
648.   thelarmis
lowell is killing us in every possible way. josh phelps...c'mon down!
2007-06-02 16:12:07
649.   Zack
ahh, there are the Yankees that have been missing the past two games...

And another injury, jesus

2007-06-02 16:12:38
650.   3rd gen yankee fan
Lowell is a f'in bastard.
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2007-06-02 16:12:45
651.   bobtaco
648 Did anyone see a stutter step there? Was that totally clean?
2007-06-02 16:13:29
652.   rsmith51
If he is going to bat .230, he HAS to make that play. Phelps could have dropped it, too.

How's that for pouring salt on the wounds?

2007-06-02 16:14:00
653.   Mattpat11
If Mike Lowell is writhing on the ground tomorrow I'm going to be pissed.
2007-06-02 16:14:06
654.   bobtaco
652 Jeter's throw wasn't exactly great.
2007-06-02 16:14:14
655.   Zack
This is another 2007 Yankee pateneted infuriating inning...Torre makes inexplicable and hugely costly decisions, the BP blows a lead, the defense makes atrocious plays, and a player gets injured.

Its like a microcosm of our season packed into a half inning...

2007-06-02 16:14:22
656.   Yankees Brasil
Proctor shouldnt be allowed to pitch against the Sox, EVER AGAIN.. unless they need to hit somebody
2007-06-02 16:14:24
657.   ric

cmon, that couldnt have been intentional, he already crossed the bag...

2007-06-02 16:14:56
658.   NJYankee41
I don't think it was necessarily on purpose but it looked like he may have been able to get around him if he wanted. Its hard to call it dirty.
2007-06-02 16:14:57
659.   rsmith51
654 No, but a 1b hitting .230 better be Keith Hernandez or Don Mattingly.
2007-06-02 16:15:07
660.   Simone
Lowell is an ass.
2007-06-02 16:15:07
661.   Mattpat11
651 He's out there trying to hurt people. Its clean, but so is breaking his arm with a fastball.
2007-06-02 16:15:28
662.   Ramone
Hate to see anyone get injured, but.... Minky and Giambi out?

"Oh, darn!"

Maybe we are turning a corner.

2007-06-02 16:15:33
663.   ric
i dont think that was intentional... must have hurt
2007-06-02 16:15:34
664.   matt nokes forever
Are we allowed to hit Lowell in the skull yet? Perhaps by a Farnsworth 100 mpher..
2007-06-02 16:16:06
665.   rsmith51
In Proctor's defense, he did get a tailor made DP ball.
2007-06-02 16:16:29
666.   Mattpat11
654 If he hits like me, he needs to make the play.

But thats not the issue now.

2007-06-02 16:16:31
667.   bobtaco
659 Yeah, he should have had it.
2007-06-02 16:16:42
668.   Zack
yeah, lowell showed a whole lot of concern for Stinky Minky prancing over to second
2007-06-02 16:17:22
669.   rsmith51
Oh great, now the Yanks want to load the bases again?
2007-06-02 16:17:28
670.   Mattpat11
665 So he blew the lead.
2007-06-02 16:18:06
671.   Zack
I think this inning is a shining example of why this team has the record it does...
2007-06-02 16:18:08
672.   NJYankee41
To top it off Proctor is still in!
2007-06-02 16:26:16
673.   Zack
yup, your 2007 Yankees ladies and gentlemen...
2007-06-02 16:26:56
674.   Chyll Will
Guys, did we just crash a moment ago?
2007-06-02 16:27:39
675.   matt nokes forever
At least Roger is coming to save the day
2007-06-02 16:28:01
676.   matt nokes forever
Crash would be an understatement
2007-06-02 16:28:35
677.   bobtaco
674 Someone stuck a fork into Proctor and the Toaster.

You have to blame this inning on Torre's ridiculous BP management. Bruney should have started the inning. Proctor should have been taken out immediately after the 6th.

2007-06-02 16:28:36
678.   Mattpat11
Okay. These games happen.
2007-06-02 16:29:31
679.   JeremyM
668 Not for nothing, but I never saw Lowell over there checking on Doug. The only example I can think off the top of my head is when Ryan Thompson hit one off that Boston reliever's face, and he was over there checking on him.

I thought Lowell had ample opportunity to avoid contact, obviously it wasn't intentional yet it seemed kind of dirty.

2007-06-02 16:29:46
680.   bobtaco
Abreu didn't help either.
2007-06-02 16:30:02
681.   Yankees Brasil
I wish Proctor would have been suspended..
2007-06-02 16:30:15
682.   Zack
678 Well, these games happen this season quite a lot.

I figured a sweep would be too much to ask, but did they really have to revert to pumpkin form?

2007-06-02 16:31:05
683.   OldYanksFan
668 As a matter of fact, he did look back on his way to 2nd. It was NOT dirty or intentional.

This is the Red Sox folks, not Hitlers henchmen.

Meanwhile, Abreu sets the table for the whole thing. Cano makes a bad throw... Jetes should NOT have gotten an error on that play. And then the whole thing collapses. I don't know how people can blame Proctor and Torre. With good D, there is no scoring in that inning.

2007-06-02 16:31:07
684.   bobtaco
679 I agree, it's like he knew he got him hard and then took off for second because he knew he wasn't getting up.
2007-06-02 16:32:18
685.   JL25and3
668 Zack, he has to go to second on that play before he checks on Mientkiewicz.

I didn't see anything wrong with Lowell on that play. He was running hard to first, period. I suppose he could have avoided contact by swerving out of his way, but his job is to get to first base on a close play.

2007-06-02 16:33:02
686.   williamnyy23
The sad thing is the Yankees CAN still win the Wild Card, but retaining Torre as manager will only make it more difficult.

Having said that, Abreu and Jeter's awful defense made a bad situation worse. If either of them coul dhave made a play, it would have rescued Torre's mismanagement, but as has been evident, this isn't a very good team least not good enough to overcome Torre's shortcomings.

2007-06-02 16:33:27
687.   bobtaco
683 But why would Torre put Proctor in the situation of having to pitch to Youk with the game on the line? You knew he was spooked. He has enough trouble with the Sox on a good day.
2007-06-02 16:33:33
688.   Zack
683 Oh come on OldYanksFan, I know you support Torre, and thats fine, but how can you NOT at least blame him for using Proctor for two innings here when hes obviously tired? he hasn't had any control his last three apperances now, which is usually the biggest indication of tired arm.

Joe had his full BP to work with and instead went back to the ol' stand in.

I agree, the Yankees didn't help in the field by any stretch, but Torre and Proctor deserve equal blame, if not more.

Its just a microcosm of the season

2007-06-02 16:33:40
689.   Marcus
I think you have to blame the defense for that inning. Abreu missing the fly ball, the bad throws by Cano & Jeter, Jeter booting the double play ball. All would have ended that inning earlier than it ended.

But I will say if I was the manager, Proctor would not have started that inning. But he did give them a chance, however tenuous, to get out with minimal damage.

2007-06-02 16:33:54
690.   Chyll Will
My hammy hurts. Back to work zzzzz...
2007-06-02 16:34:40
691.   JeremyM
668 Or did he look to see if he could to 3rd? I don't think he intentionally hurt him, but his actions were more "redass ballplayer" than I care for. He could've avoided the contact or lessened the blow, Doug's head was well past the bag and he was looking right at him.
2007-06-02 16:34:48
692.   Zack
685 Yeah, I know. I have just been spending the afternoon in the shoes of a red Sox fan, so I've been trying to react accordingly...
2007-06-02 16:37:11
693.   Ramone
I don't blame Lowell, but it is an example of how this is the MLB and not Little League.

All those whiners who called A-Rod's play "bush league" because you wouldn't tell an 8-year old to do it need to remember that you wouldn't tell an 8-year old to step over the 1B in order to take an extra base after you just KO'd him with a knee to the back of the head.

2007-06-02 16:37:31
694.   BklynBmr
This just in: Joe Buck is a moron.
2007-06-02 16:38:09
695.   JL25and3
691 It would have taken a sudden swerve at the last step. He could twist an ankle or strain a hamstring.

But most of all, he was just doing what a professional ballplayer is supposed to do. You could just as easily say that Mientkiewicz could have avoided the contact by just letting the ball go by. But both guys were doing their jobs.

2007-06-02 16:38:21
696.   Zack
Joe Buck: it is apparent that the Red Sox bp is superior to that of the Yankees based on today.

Ummm, really Joe? Becasue as far as I see it, both look pretty crappy to me. Or rather, Scott Proctor looks rather crappy to me, and Okajima looks good, whereas the two other assclowns looked rather crappy

2007-06-02 16:38:31
697.   bobtaco
Go Cleveland.
2007-06-02 16:38:32
698.   Chyll Will
Is it too much to think the team have been way too passive-agressive today?
2007-06-02 16:40:15
699.   Zack
Shame on me for thinking the Yanks had a shot to sweep if they kept playing as they were. The Dementor Yanks have returned in force
2007-06-02 16:41:23
700.   Zack
Oh good Vizcaino is in. Time to go do something else...
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2007-06-02 16:41:34
701.   bobtaco
Joe could have gone to Britton or Bruney for an inning each, instead he tries to let a tired, emotionally drained Proctor pitch a second inning with the heart of the order coming up, including the guy he almost beaned yesterday. For a guy lauded for being able to handle the egos of his players, Torre really is clueless Joe this year.

And no he goes to the Volcano, raising the white flag.

God damn it.

2007-06-02 16:42:10
702.   OldYanksFan
1) a very catchable fly to RF.
2) an IBB because of Abreu
3) a BB
4) a DP ball... Cano with a bad throw.
inning should be over
5) a bloop fly single
6) another BP ball.

No, he wasn't great, but he got 3 outs (or more) without any scoring if we play average defense.

No pitcher survives 3 errors and another poor play in one inning. I'd rather see Bruney in there, but there in no guarantee what he does.

Again, Torre gets a C- or D+, the rest of the team gets an F.

Tell me... the Sox are havibng a great year. Is Francoma a great manager... or do the players have something to do with it?

How about the Cubs? Do they have a shitty manager?

2007-06-02 16:42:14
703.   cult of basebaal
and, just to be fair, let's hang the runs from the previous inning on ol' joe too ... i mean, what part of watching mussina load the bases 3 times in 5 innings wasn't enough ...

what part of watching him nibble on each and every hitter because he can't throw his 85 MPH "fastball" anywhere near the strike zone wasn't enough ...

what part of watching him miss location after location, wasn't enough ...

what part of watching youkilis miss a grand slam to the deepest part of the park by a sliver to end the previous inning, wasn't enough ...

the last 2 innings made me so mad i saw spots

and now The Deuce is on ... just shoot me

good thing we brought up britton ...

2007-06-02 16:43:51
704.   bobtaco
703 Exactly. Love your screen name too.
2007-06-02 16:44:08
705.   cult of basebaal
oh, and for anyone who didn't hear, clemens is out for the game on Monday, igawa is coming up for the start
2007-06-02 16:44:24
706.   BklynBmr
698 They're afraid of Mike Lowell. He's been beeyatch-slappin' everyone in his path. Let him throw down in the UFC or Pride... somewhere where someone will hit him back.
2007-06-02 16:44:48
707.   Marcus
hey that's not bad. Manny goes down with the whiff.
2007-06-02 16:45:27
708.   Chyll Will
Okay, we've phased directly into passivity now. G'nite, all. Two more hours and I'll have passed into sleep-deprived oblivion and none of this will have ever happened...
2007-06-02 16:47:22
709.   Emma Span
Come on now guys... Mientkiewicz basically lost his balance trying to save the bad throw and fell backwards right in front of Lowell -- as he was running at full speed up the line, trying to beat the DP. He didn't have time to react. It's too bad, but there's absolutely no reason to believe it was in any way intentional, or even avoidable. For what it's worth, he looked back to check on him too...

This is, however, one of the most excruciating games of the season. Ugh.

2007-06-02 16:47:27
710.   Marcus
It wouldn't be a bad time for Vizcaino to get ejected.
2007-06-02 16:48:15
711.   ric

beware the notoriously evil mike lowell...

2007-06-02 16:50:44
712.   cult of basebaal
alright ... this calls for the gym ... and then beer ... this might be the game that breaks my will to follow this season ... 655 hits it on the nose ... gah
2007-06-02 16:55:33
713.   jkay
Bad News Bears fielding did them in. Proctor would have survived with the lead or a tie at worst.

It was a chance to match their longest winning streak of the year(3).

They need outfielders who can hit and FIELD. Damon killed them last week in the field and Abreu today. Matsui is no better.

At least Melky is out there and hit bat is heating up too.

2007-06-02 16:59:44
714.   rockymtnyankee
655 is right.......What a horrible game.....a winnable one.....but atrocious pitching, hitting, and BP 2 injuries, counting Clemens. We have to play .600+ ball the rest of the season, and we have zero margin for error.
2007-06-02 17:03:28
715.   Simone
This is just a bad game. The players and Joe contributed to this loss. It happens. I'm just grateful that the Yankees still have a chance at the wild card. Now that I consider a miracle.
2007-06-02 17:04:06
716.   ric
contrary to what mcarver said, there are many sox fans that dont want matsui to egt on base
2007-06-02 17:04:39
717.   Simone
Also, the issue isn't Proctor pitching against the Red Sox, it is Proctor even being on the Yankees.
2007-06-02 17:06:15
718.   bobtaco
"I was lying in a burned out basement
with the full moon in my eyes
I was hoping for replacement
When the sun burst thru the sky
There was a band playing in my head
and I felt like getting high
I was thinking about what a
friend had said
I was hoping it was a lie"
2007-06-02 17:06:15
719.   Ramone
Just an ol' fashioned tail whipping.
2007-06-02 17:09:43
720.   OldYanksFan
709 Thank you for some sanity.
2007-06-02 17:11:00
721.   bobtaco
720 Remember how hard Lowell hit Cano earlier in the game.
2007-06-02 17:18:43
722.   Simone
At least, Abreu is hitting.
2007-06-02 17:31:26
723.   JL25and3
Nice try! Good swing! Way to run out that grounder!
2007-06-02 17:36:39
724.   yankz
709 is right.

And sure, Abreu/Cano/Captain didn't help things, but I'm with everyone else who said Proctor shouldn't have started the inning. Everyone in the country knew he was pitching with half a strike zone.

I'm heading over to LoHud, where I bet PA is defending Torre and Proctor.

2007-06-02 17:39:35
725.   yankz
Nope, he's with the rest of us: Proctor shouldn't have been out there. The guy sucks vs. the Sox. When is Torre going to realize that?
2007-06-02 18:06:10
726.   Shaun P
This is a day when having a young child, and a wife ready to deliver another one (any day now), is a good thing. Because I missed this disaster.

Man, Proctor vs the Sox is awful - home, away, whatever. Torre being Torre, Britton of course won't get used there. It is very frustrating.

2007-06-02 18:31:40
727.   weeping for brunnhilde
Another day at the office, folks.

Nothing like a crisply-played ballgame, eh?

I know it was ridiculous that I allowed myself to fantasize about a sweep--I get that.

But for Christ's sake, that doesn't mean we have to just fall apart. That was really, really painful to watch.

What the fuck was up with Derek, man? He really let me down.

As someone noted above, that inning was indeed a microcosm of the whole season.


726 Hear, hear, Shaun.

2007-06-02 19:26:10
728.   BklynBmr
726 You're blessed, ShaunP. Prayers and congrats are in order for the 2028 Rookie of the Year (and starting Yankees shortstop)!

I can't really blame Proctor today in total. The bad 'D' and freak play... sh*t, he made the pitches he had to make, but no love from the gloves...

Back to 13.5 GB. So, who's on the Hale-Bopp express right now? Aside from certain bloggers...

2007-06-02 19:36:03
729.   Vandelay Industries
Trade Abreu for a pair of old shoes.

Someone tell Robbie Cano that he is not Roberto Alomar. SET AND THROW THE FUCKING BALL YOU MORON!

Jete gets a pass, well, because he's Jete.

Joe cant use anyone for two innings all year, and he has a guy who is striking out more than 1 per inning and he sticks with Proctor? 1 day after tossing Arod under the bus. Bye Joe, its been real. Should have promoted Willie when we had the chance. Hello Donnie!

I'm calling George to ask for my EI $160 back! At least keep up with the freaking Orioles for Christ's sake! This team doesn't deserve my money, time, or loyalty. They can certainly turn it around, but I am not blowing one more Saturday, one more night I could be out, or one more missed show because my DVR is full, or one more breath talking about what amounts to a team that couldn't compete for the NCAA championship.

2007-06-02 20:31:11
730.   yankz
Terrible, terrible news on Mink. From PA:

"Tests revealed a mild concussion, cervical sprain and a fractured bone in his right wrist. He will be kept overnight for observation and will be placed on the 15-day disabled list prior to Sunday's game."

2007-06-02 20:37:32
731.   yankz
Terrible, terrible news on Mink. From PA:

"Tests revealed a mild concussion, cervical sprain and a fractured bone in his right wrist. He will be kept overnight for observation and will be placed on the 15-day disabled list prior to Sunday's game."

2007-06-02 20:40:02
732.   yankz
D'oh! I mean, HA!
2007-06-02 21:37:25
733.   rsmith51
731 How is that terrible, terrible? He will recover and the Yanks can see whether Phelps can play. Minky obviously cannot. You never want to see someone get injured, but sometimes an injury comes along at the right time. Alright Josh here is your chance. Hopefully he can make more of it than Andy did.
2007-06-02 22:05:28
734.   yankz
733 Um, he could've pulled a hammy or something. Those are serious injuries. That's the terrible part. I've wanted Mink out of the lineup as much as the next guy, but for something like "fatigue."
2007-06-02 22:06:49
735.   Zack
I would agree. All things considered, a mild concusion ain't the end of the world. Obviously I wish him a speedy recovery from his injuries, but its not really "terrible" considering it coulda been a lot worse. Having had a few concusions myself. Wait, what was I saying?

(haha, okay, maybe not funny)

2007-06-02 22:39:48
736.   yankz
I'm just saying, Mink seems like a good guy and it's a shame that it took something like this to get him out of the lineup. Holy shit, it's late.
2007-06-02 23:48:42
737.   Zack
Soooo, its pretty clear that Marty Miller wasn't exactly the whole problem with all the injuries, eh? I guess we haven't had a hammy in awhile, knock on wood
2007-06-03 05:56:47
738.   seamus
I wanted us to replace Minky. But not this way. He is a gamer and you've gotta give him credit. We're going to miss his fielding.
2007-06-03 06:34:48
739.   KJC
You hate to see anyone go down & on the DL like Mientkiewicz did. The replay of that collision was as bad as Damon's headbutt with Damian Jackson years ago. A fluke awful accident.
2007-06-03 08:11:33
740.   OldYanksFan
733 With Giambi AND Minky out, we need another 1Bman... unless you want Cairo in there. Do they bring up Phillips? A 'Duncan'? Do we go out and get someone?

"cervical sprain and a fractured bone in his right wrist" sounds like more then 15 days. This might sound like blasphemy, but I was beginning to like DougOut. Our D is inconsistant and usually poor. I hate to put another 5 thumbs guy on the field.

So who's our next/another 1Bman?

2007-06-03 08:28:36
741.   yankz
737 How many hamstring injuries have they had since he was fired?
2007-06-03 08:30:31
742.   Jim Dean
740 I'd say Shelley. But there's, I'm sure, the strong pull to bring Phillips back - you know with his strong glove and all (92 RATE last year - 8 runs below average).
2007-06-03 09:01:15
743.   Mattpat11
734 I would have liked him to come out due to "suck" I didn't want an injury
2007-06-03 09:07:06
744.   Mattpat11
"This might sound like blasphemy, but I was beginning to like DougOut."

That may be taking it a little far. Hopefully he comes back healthy and settles into a roll as a late inning defensive replacement.

2007-06-03 09:13:12
745.   Shaun P
Let's hope the answer to "Who's next?" is "No one." Or maybe not. The more injuries the Yankees have - and they've already had plenty - the less likely Cashman is going to be fired for this season by an irate George. What team could possibly compete with all the injuries the Yanks have had? (OK the As, but they play in the AL West for cryin out loud.)

Clemens's situation is just the icing on the injury cake.

Here's to a full recovery for Mintkiewicz - concussions are an awful thing. IMHO, there's no such thing as a 'mild' one.

2007-06-03 09:52:59
746.   yankz
740 Apparently? It might be Damon:

2007-06-03 09:56:03
747.   Mattpat11
I'll take that over the Andy Phillips Experiment Part 243245356 or some other AAAA player.
2007-06-03 10:02:18
748.   yankz
747 Yeah, me too. Question is, who DH's? Phelps vs. lefties, Abreu vs righties (in which case, Kevin Thompson would start)?
2007-06-03 10:05:12
749.   seamus
747 while maybe not wanting Phillips back, this would be a good time to try and find a better player, either via our farm system or otherwise.
2007-06-03 10:05:52
750.   yankz
And boy, it is good timing for Melky to start getting hot.
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2007-06-03 10:14:40
751.   Mattpat11
748 "Kevin Thompson"

That would be an AAAA player.

749 Do we have anyone in the minors like that right now?

2007-06-03 10:20:12
752.   yankz
751 So? Is that not what would happen? What would happen?
2007-06-03 10:21:29
753.   Mattpat11
I'd weep.
2007-06-03 11:01:16
754.   mehmattski
753 Yes, but wouldn't you weep more if they plucked Bernie off the Guitar Heroes Tour?

PeteAbe also reports that Minky has a cervical sprain. Childish jokes aside, that means that very nearly that hit could have paralyzed him, or worse. I was screaming at the TV that they shouldn't be moving him, the way the replays showed he got hit in the back of the neck. All it takes is a 2-inch movement of the second vertebrae to pierce the spinal cord...

2007-06-03 13:02:02
755.   randym77
Terrible news about Minky. The broken wrist probably means he'll be out for a long time, maybe the whole season (if Sheff and Matsui were any example).

Any word on what the roster move will be? The return of Andy Phillips, maybe?

2007-06-03 13:26:02
756.   rbj
Don Mattingly still looks fit, I'm sure his back is better, and even if he's lost some bat speed I bet he'd hit better than Minky was.
2007-06-03 13:29:42
757.   Shaun P
Tyler Kepner says DeSalvo is being called back up, thanks to Minky's injury, and will start on Monday. Unless they send Britton down and call up a position player, which I doubt they will, looks like the Yanks may play 1 bat short until Tuesday.

728 Thanks Bklyn - we'll have to see if he's a lefty or not. If he is, his future may be on the mound! ;)

2007-06-03 13:38:42
758.   randym77
So what happens Tuesday? They're going to have to call up an infielder eventually...aren't they?
2007-06-03 13:42:14
759.   mehmattski
Pending Pinstripes' EJ Fagan reports that Andy Phillips is not in the lineup today for Scranton. Whether that means he's being called up remains to be seen.

Still... Free Shelly Duncan (2007 SLG: .630)!

2007-06-03 13:56:47
760.   randym77
Interesting. Sounds like we will be seeing Andy again.

I just watched the Yankees Classic game on YES. It was the Jeter into the stands one. The good old days. :-)

And boy, Miggy was clutch in that game.

2007-06-03 14:25:19
761.   Mattpat11
754 I've said this man times, and I know people disagree. I'll take a has been over a never will be every day of the week.
2007-06-03 14:26:50
762.   Mattpat11
755 I'm sure Phillips will be back. Why the hell not at this point? Season's doomed anyway. Might as well see AAAAndy flail at sliders.
2007-06-03 15:15:26
763.   Vandelay Industries

Are you nuts? I never want to see Phillips again. It will be Damon at 1B. Bank on it.

2007-06-03 16:23:01
764.   Mattpat11
I never want to see Andy Phillips again. I'm sure we will though. And we're screwed anyway.
2007-06-03 16:25:14
765.   Jim Dean
2007-06-03 16:27:41
766.   seamus
2007-06-03 16:35:22
767.   Vandelay Industries
At the very least, someone has to knock Lowell on his ass today, win or lose. If Arod's elbow was "bush" than shoving Cano to the ground was more so. I understand that preventing by obstructing Cano from making that play is clean, but actively shoving him down is as dirty as anything Arod has done. Why it wasn't pointed out is beyond me.
2007-06-03 17:05:25
768.   williamnyy23
767 It would be on thing if Lowell simply ran into Cano, but he gave him a point blank shoulder into the chest. I'm sorry, but I don't see how that play is legal. Otherwise, there is no reason why any base runner would not go out of his way to destroy fielders.

If Lowell doesn't see a fastball in a very vulnerable part of his body (not the backside), then I'll lose a little respect this team.

2007-06-03 17:10:11
769.   rbj
It's certainly much worse than saying HA!
2007-06-03 17:17:58
770.   Vandelay Industries

Exactly! If that play were legal as the Sox broadcasters claim, why wouldn't every runner coming into second to break up a double play simply run the second baseman over? He is in his path after all, and if he drops the ball the runner can proceed toward third base. You cannot stop in the basepath and shove a fielder down, its just that simple. But Lowell doesn't make 25 Mil. per year, so that's that I guess.

2007-06-03 17:19:12
771.   williamnyy23
I'm also sick of Torre selling out his players. First he throws Arod on the bus over HA!-gate and now he absolves Lowell even though Cano was quoted as saying he thought the shoulder block was unfair.
2007-06-03 17:23:54
772.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
Hey everyone, first post. I'm from the Island but moved to Chicago about two years ago. Does anyone know of any Yankees friendly bars in Chicago? I'm thinking something like what the Riviera is/was to the enemy in Manhattan.


2007-06-03 17:25:22
773.   rbj
772 Hi YFIC. Sorry I don't know of any.
2007-06-03 17:26:10
774.   Vandelay Industries

Torre fancies himself a baseball purist and a tough guy. I've said this 100 times here, but there is a reason that Joe was a sub .500 manager before joining the Yankees. Look, a manager most important job is to make his players believe they can and will win, and that the team will protect them should they be slighted unfairly. Joe cannot even accomplish this simple task. Jerry Remy shouldn't be the guy defending Arod for God's sake.

Gone is the man crying in the dugout after the 1996 World Series, and here is the man who sits smoking $100 cigars in $3000 suits in the owners box.

2007-06-03 17:26:41
775.   vockins
Pettitte looks good, too bad this game is going to get called in a half hour.
2007-06-03 17:26:47
776.   mslug
I think torre is trying to get fired with all the stupid in game moves and tossing his players under the bus going on. Either that or he's just a moron. Yeah, thats probably it.
2007-06-03 17:27:58
777.   rbj
772 D'oh, meant to say Welcome to the Banter.
2007-06-03 17:29:24
778.   rbj
So anyone think Pinella's trying to get fired by the Cubs because he thinks the Yankee job will be open at the end of the year?
2007-06-03 17:29:38
779.   Vandelay Industries
Anyone else DVR'ing the game and watching the Democratic debate? Do any of these morons even know who Bobby Kennedy was? Each and every one of them is not only an embarassment to the party, but to the United States itself. Sheesh, what a joke.
2007-06-03 17:30:20
780.   Mattpat11
Gammons is lying again
2007-06-03 17:30:25
781.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
Thanks, rbj!
2007-06-03 17:31:12
782.   Vandelay Industries

I thought it was a terrible mistake not to try and sign Piniella at the end of last season. He's forgotten more about managing a baseball game than Joe Torre ever knew.

2007-06-03 17:33:28
783.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
I agree Piniella's fire would have been welcome after Torre's ice. I've got a bad feeling about Donnie stepping in after Joe.
2007-06-03 17:36:50
784.   rbj
783 Yeah. I don't care who you are, but your first managing job should not be for the NY Yankees -- even if you've played there & know the City
2007-06-03 17:39:31
785.   mehmattski
I don't see the point in venting your frustration by immediately arguing an obviously correct call. It's just theatrics for theatrics sake, and it's inspired the Cubs so much that they've continued to lose.

Give me a guy who makes good baseball decisions and keeps the clubhouse together over an irrational old timer any day.

2007-06-03 17:39:32
786.   bobtaco
Yes! Phelps! HA!
2007-06-03 17:45:18
787.   Zack
Oh come on. Pinella would NOT help this team very much. He sure is doing a great job up in Chi-town, eh?

I love that Gammons reported the whole "defective" baseball thing again as if its perfectly plausable...

2007-06-03 17:46:05
788.   Zack
Let's see how Andy responds to the long inning
2007-06-03 17:48:57
789.   tommyl
788 Well so far, he's dealing.
2007-06-03 17:50:12
790.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
I'm just saying going from one mellow manager to another, (from what I've seen of Mattingly), might not be best the best thing for this club.
2007-06-03 17:50:22
791.   Zack
Where the heck was Jeter on the youk hit? That was the slowest base hit to center ever...
2007-06-03 17:51:01
792.   Zack
790 you should know better!
2007-06-03 17:51:25
793.   Zack
Wow did I ever think that was gone...
2007-06-03 17:51:26
794.   bobtaco
Lowell must be stopped.
2007-06-03 17:51:47
795.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
2007-06-03 17:51:54
796.   Zack
790 I agree on that point. I think Donnie could use to learn from another manager too, mayeb Bowa
2007-06-03 17:52:18
797.   Eirias
793 Me too. As I saw the camera angle rise up, I thought it was going out.
2007-06-03 17:53:12
798.   bobtaco
God I love Melky in CF.
2007-06-03 17:55:14
799.   Emma Span
Lou Piniella may be a better tactical manager than Torre, but I honestly think he'd be a disaster for the Yankees. Talk about throwing your players under the bus -- that's all he's done with the Cubs this season. Add the NY media to that, and I think you've got the recipe for an utter debacle of a season... though a highly entertaining one.

I think they need a new bench coach, frankly -- Girardi, maybe even Flaherty, somebody. I love Mattingly, but either he's not giving Torre the right advice, or Torre isn't listening.

2007-06-03 17:55:43
800.   OldYanksFan
Anybody watching the Yankee game?
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2007-06-03 17:56:01
801.   Zack
How can they not include Dent's HR in the "fenway classic moment" montage? :)
2007-06-03 17:58:39
802.   OldYanksFan
799 Emma.. you and Simone add a much needed touch of reality to this blog. There must be something to this chicks and baseball thing.

So... you and Simone... doing anything Friday night?

2007-06-03 17:58:52
803.   Emma Span
799 To clarify, not that I'm blaming this season on Mattingly, or even Torre. The Yanks have many, many bigger problems... just a thought for the future.
2007-06-03 18:00:07
804.   OldYanksFan
JB is throwing well, but the Yankees are battling at the bat. Pretty high pitch count so far. Would be nice to have him gone after 6.
2007-06-03 18:00:17
805.   underdog
779 As opposed to the current Head Decider?

I wouldn't call Biden a moron (though he is a little crazy) nor Richardson nor Obama (though he's green) nor Kucinich (though he's certainly dorky).

Meanwhile, do you guys listen to Joe Morgan on ESPN, or do you mute the announcers? I can only take so much but I've never been a Joe Morgan fan. has he mentioned Barry Bonds yet, or something about his own career?

2007-06-03 18:02:37
806.   OldYanksFan
Abreu looking much better
2007-06-03 18:03:03
807.   OldYanksFan
Anybody watching the Yankee game?
2007-06-03 18:04:31
808.   Zack
I can't take Morgan and Miller anymore, I think its time for me to go start cooking dinner. Sigh...
2007-06-03 18:05:10
809.   underdog
Btw, Preston Son of Don Mattingly update, at single A: After a bad start, he's picked it up a bit, now "up" to .224/.264 OPB/.619 OPS - 2 hrs and 17 rbis. Again, after a very slow start. His defense was a little suspect at SS so I believe he was moved over.
2007-06-03 18:05:40
810.   Zack
I'd sure like to see the "k-zone" on that last pitch...
2007-06-03 18:08:38
811.   Mike T
And Alex didn't swing at that last pitch because....?
2007-06-03 18:09:35
812.   bobtaco
I'll say it again. God, I LOVE Melky in CF!
2007-06-03 18:09:41
813.   thelarmis
2007-06-03 18:10:27
814.   Emma Span
802 Ha. Why thank you... but ah, can you define "Old"?

As for the game... MELKY!!! I don't care if he hits .250 all year, I love watching that guy.

Okay, I care, but still. Awesome.

2007-06-03 18:10:32
815.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
Alright Melky! He woke Morgan up!
2007-06-03 18:10:32
816.   Mike T
Nice one Melky. I don't think Damon could've gotten that. Maybe he could have, but he is not so mobile anymore. Melky ran his ass off for that.
2007-06-03 18:12:04
817.   bobtaco
I'm not so thrilled with Abreu in right. It seems like every catch is an adventure...
2007-06-03 18:12:58
818.   Zack
Melky in CF is a beeutiful thing, innit?

Tho andy has been giving up some hard hit, looong outs

2007-06-03 18:13:11
819.   Emma Span
805 underdog, check out, if you haven't already -- their weekly dissections of his ESPN chats are absolutely beautiful.
2007-06-03 18:14:43
820.   williamnyy23
Phelps is going to be exploited all year. His Giambi-like inability to throw is going to be a problem.
2007-06-03 18:15:20
821.   Zack
Nice play Robbie!
2007-06-03 18:15:30
822.   bobtaco
Another good play by Robbie.
2007-06-03 18:17:57
823.   underdog
819 Ah, thanks Emma! You're right, somebody on DodgerThoughts also recommended that site to me but I think I was just too agitated with him to even look at an anti-JM site. But I'll check it out after this game, finally. The worst is when he does Dodger games (rare), as a Dodger fan, it's obvious to me how hard it is for him to say anything positive, so much does he still hate that team. It'd be like having Curt Schilling some day do a Yankee game.
2007-06-03 18:20:14
824.   mehmattski
820 Yeah, but his bat is going to improve the Yankees over Minky so much that runners taking one or two extra bases a week isn't going to matter...
2007-06-03 18:21:06
825.   tommyl
oh my G-d, Joe Morgan is making sense! Have I gone insane?
2007-06-03 18:21:44
826.   williamnyy23
Wow...if Robbie wasn't such a nice kid the Red Sox would be picking Josh Beckett up out of the right field seats.
2007-06-03 18:22:13
827.   mehmattski
825 Let it be known that at 9:20 PM EDT, I agreed with Joe Morgan about something.

My, this is turning into quite the pitchers' duel, huh. That's cool.

2007-06-03 18:22:29
828.   Peter
825 I was just about to comment the same thing.
2007-06-03 18:22:36
829.   williamnyy23
824 I agree...I guess my point is it's just a shame that the Yankees 1B choice was solid glove/no bat versus solid bat/no glove.
2007-06-03 18:24:46
830.   Emma Span
823 Here's a link to their Morgan-specific content:

Almost too sad to be funny, but not quite.
Though damned if he didn't just rather intelligently defend A-Rod.

2007-06-03 18:26:22
831.   mehmattski
"Don't get me wrong, I believe that wins and losses are the true measure of a pitcher."

And then Morgan goes back to normal.

2007-06-03 18:26:57
832.   Emma Span
831 Ah yes...
2007-06-03 18:27:51
833.   OldYanksFan
814 Older then williamnyy23
2007-06-03 18:35:26
834.   Shaun P
830 For someone who's (allegedly) working in right now in his basement (no tv, sigh), could anyone let me know what Joe Morgan said about A-Rod?

831 Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Morgan is paid millions of dollars to analyze baseball for ESPN! And he just said something that anyone who understands baseball would know is false.

That would be the equivalent of me telling a client that their patent is great because they have 100 claims instead of 50. FWIW, I would probably get fired if I told a client that. Joe Morgan will just keep winning awards!

2007-06-03 18:37:25
835.   mehmattski
"Players who walk a lot aren't going to have long hitting streaks."

Joe DiMaggio, career OBP: .398
BB/PA: 9.6

2007-06-03 18:39:31
836.   bobtaco
nice AB from Phelps.
2007-06-03 18:40:03
837.   Shaun P
Go Phelps!
2007-06-03 18:40:30
838.   mehmattski
834 He basically said the same thing that a bunch of us did... that this sort of thing happens all the time, and that if David Eckstein did it, we'd all be praising his grit.
2007-06-03 18:40:38
839.   monkeypants
Wow, Joe Morgan just talked about Hah-gate, and he actually made sense--admitting that in his day (which went into the 1980s) runners always used to try to distract fielders.
2007-06-03 18:41:09
840.   bobtaco
Man, Melky is the Milk again.
2007-06-03 18:41:47
841.   OldYanksFan
hmmmm.... if we get another single, do we see the 'patented Phelps' slide into Tek?
2007-06-03 18:43:02
842.   Shaun P
838 Thanks, mehmattski. Props to Joe for that.

I wonder if my wife will let give our son the middle name of 'Melky'?

Can't believe that Damon and Jeter both swung at the first pitch. Sigh.

2007-06-03 18:43:57
843.   bobtaco
842 Those were two crappy at bats.
2007-06-03 18:44:39
844.   monkeypants
835 Morgan is basically right about this, though. Di Maggio never walked as much as other all-time great hitters (loook at Wiliams or Ruth or Mantle or even a high K guy like Reggie Jackson).
2007-06-03 18:47:16
845.   mehmattski
Melky, last seven days (including two at bats today):

27 PA .454/.518/.750

2007-06-03 18:47:17
846.   tommyl
A-Rod! Well not pretty, but it is two RBIs!
2007-06-03 18:47:22
847.   Jim Dean
2007-06-03 18:47:35
848.   Peter
2007-06-03 18:48:55
849.   thelarmis
2007-06-03 18:49:07
850.   mehmattski
I'm really glad Damon didn't bunt earlier.
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2007-06-03 18:49:18
851.   bobtaco
such a sweet swing
2007-06-03 18:49:28
852.   OldYanksFan
Well.... do we still think Torre threw ARod under the bus... or what it just FUCK*NG SLEAZY INCOMPETENT IGNORANT SPORTS WRITERS?
2007-06-03 18:49:57
853.   bobtaco
Come on Zilla. Finish him!
2007-06-03 18:50:51
854.   Jim Dean
852 But when do Torre learn to go overboard in supporting him (like with every other player) or simply STFU?
2007-06-03 18:52:06
855.   monkeypants
852 He didn't throw him under the bus, but if this version of what he says is true, it's still pretty weak support. All he had to say was that "hey, that goes on all the time," not some flip-floppy "it was right but it was wrong" explanation, which inevitably will be twisted out of context.
2007-06-03 18:52:24
856.   Jim Dean
The one thing I find funny about the Sox - their only starter to shut the Yanks down this year: Julian Tavarez.

They do not scare me.


2007-06-03 18:52:27
857.   Hocakes
If nothing else, the '07 Yanks can hang their hats on the fact that they can pretty much score at will against all of Boston's starters. Even in the first two series, they roughed up their starters.
2007-06-03 18:53:17
858.   williamnyy23
833 OK...I'll bite...and that means what?
2007-06-03 18:54:04
859.   OldYanksFan
Joe Torre is a very nice man.
2007-06-03 18:55:02
860.   OldYanksFan
858 You get a date with Emma before I do.
2007-06-03 18:55:10
861.   Emma Span
842 I was thinking Leche would be a good name for my next dog...
2007-06-03 18:56:35
862.   OldYanksFan
861 Take my word for it, don't like Leche drink any leche.
2007-06-03 18:58:01
863.   bobtaco
Why every time the Yankees score, they can never slam the door the next inning?
2007-06-03 18:58:01
864.   Jim Dean
861 A fantastic idea.
2007-06-03 19:02:01
865.   monkeypants
865 Ah, but luckily they cut to Gammons, who explained to us that really what A-Rod did was wrong. Everything is back to normal now.
2007-06-03 19:02:07
866.   OldYanksFan
Trouble... predictions?
2007-06-03 19:02:50
867.   bobtaco
where was that?
2007-06-03 19:04:51
868.   Eirias
Christ, no.
2007-06-03 19:05:07
869.   Eirias
Oh, ok. No injury?
2007-06-03 19:05:11
870.   nemecizer
Why is gameday showing an injury delay? What happened?
2007-06-03 19:05:28
871.   Mike T
Come on Andy.
2007-06-03 19:05:41
872.   Shaun P
861 I'll run that by my wife and see what she thinks. ;)

Gameday says "Injury delay". Please tell me its not Pettitte.

2007-06-03 19:05:45
873.   Emma Span
866 I predict that Andy Pettitte will get out of this inning without giving up the lead, but that the bullpen will blow it in the 7th.
2007-06-03 19:06:22
874.   RIYank
Hey all. Dang, I probably shouldn't have logged in. Great smack by Pedroia, dammit.
2007-06-03 19:06:28
875.   Emma Span
873 Of course I might be wrong...
2007-06-03 19:06:30
876.   Mattpat11
2007-06-03 19:07:13
877.   Eirias
Bases clearing double... just great.
2007-06-03 19:07:22
878.   RIYank
873 Wrong.
God, Abreu really stinks.
2007-06-03 19:07:27
879.   tommyl
F8adscasdklfj Abreu
2007-06-03 19:07:35
880.   Ramone
f-ing abreu
2007-06-03 19:07:45
881.   Mattpat11
Yankees trying to lose. Don't need to watch it anymore.
2007-06-03 19:07:50
882.   mehmattski
And to think, I was wondering how the Yankees would manage to lose this game.

Jon Miller, voice of Red Sox Nation.

2007-06-03 19:08:16
883.   Mike T
Good job Abreu.
2007-06-03 19:08:21
884.   bobtaco
I think it's time for Damon at 1st. Abreu as DH and Kevin Thompson in RF.

Joe, WTF?


2007-06-03 19:08:23
885.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
Is Abreu 45 years old?
2007-06-03 19:08:24
886.   Ramone
no, not vizcaino!
2007-06-03 19:08:28
887.   monkeypants
Miller might have to, er, go to the bathroom and clean himself up after that call of Coco Crisp scoring.

When did Abreu turn into a little leaguer?

How many orgasms can Miller have in one inning?

2007-06-03 19:08:35
888.   Zack
Well, the 2007 Yankees strike again. And with Torre bringing in Vizcaino, time to turn off the game
2007-06-03 19:08:36
889.   Benjamin Kabak
I've been trying to give Abreu the benefit of the doubt for weeks, but that was just a piss poor play. Fucking ridiculous. Go all out if you're going to charge the ball, idiot.

And I'm glad to see Torre wants to keep the game close by bringing in a pitcher who can't get outs.

2007-06-03 19:08:52
890.   OldYanksFan
Looked to me like a dive might have caught that ball.
2007-06-03 19:09:04
891.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
Game unraveling
2007-06-03 19:09:26
892.   Hocakes
Wha? Why Joe?
2007-06-03 19:09:30
893.   tommyl
Vizcaino? Vizcaino?! You do have this guy named Britton in the pen Joe.

Well here goes the game. AGAIN

2007-06-03 19:09:52
894.   Shaun P
(string of unprintable words unsuitable for a family blog)

873 Please predict the Yanks will win!

BTW, if Vizcaino comes in to this game now, I will recruit a team of writers to form "", and we will be relentless.

2007-06-03 19:09:59
895.   Max
Wow, where are all those people that are glad Abreu replaced Sheffield? What a disaster he is...I'll second what that anonymous scout said about him in the Daily News -- he looks like "garbage".
2007-06-03 19:10:20
896.   nemecizer
I can't believe Torre took Pettitte out, unless he is injured.
2007-06-03 19:10:27
897.   Simone
The Sopranos was really good.
2007-06-03 19:10:35
898.   williamnyy23
Abreu doesn't really play RF...he just stands there in between ABs.

It's good to see that Joe is throwing in the Towel early here. If Viz does his thing, I don't have to worry about waking up for work tomorrow morning.

2007-06-03 19:10:51
899.   Mattpat11
Not Randy is in the game.
2007-06-03 19:10:57
900.   OldYanksFan
Well... Abreu is afraid to go back and afraid to come in. And he doesn'y move that well to his right. Jeez.
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2007-06-03 19:11:13
901.   RIYank
890 Oh, but he couldn't dive, because if he missed the ball would have gotten by him and Ortiz... would have...
Never mind.
2007-06-03 19:11:25
902.   Benjamin Kabak
895 I ain't one of them. Everyday, Sheffield plays well, and everyday, Abreu sucks. Sheff launched another HR today in a Tiger win. Why the Yanks would trade such a good hitter to another playoff-contending team in the AL was beyond me.
2007-06-03 19:11:28
903.   nemecizer
Dammit, we were doing so well against Beckett. Now he could still get a W.
2007-06-03 19:11:37
904.   mslug
Anyone else want to chip in for an ad in the Times calling for the firing of Torre.
2007-06-03 19:12:08
905.   nemecizer
You bring in a pitcher and then intentionally walk a guy. I just don't get it, Joe. Please explain the logic of that to me.
2007-06-03 19:12:25
906.   Ramone
And what IDIOT changes pitchers and then calls an IBB? Pettite couldn't handle that?
2007-06-03 19:12:42
907.   Simone
Abreu misjudged the hop. It isn't the end of the world.
2007-06-03 19:12:52
908.   thelarmis
2007-06-03 19:13:00
909.   unpopster
Vizcaino? Really, Vizcaino? Has Torre been paid off by the Sox
2007-06-03 19:13:00
910.   unpopster
Vizcaino? Really, Vizcaino? Has Torre been paid off by the Sox
2007-06-03 19:13:02
911.   Mattpat11
This team fucking sucks.
2007-06-03 19:13:27
912.   nemecizer
Nice going Torre.

Time for you to go.

2007-06-03 19:13:44
913.   williamnyy23
904 The ownership of the Times has a stake in the Red Sox. They may not accept the ad...Torre managing the Yanks is very good for the Sox.
2007-06-03 19:13:50
914.   bobtaco
904 Bring back Don Zimmer.
2007-06-03 19:13:54
915.   vockins
Who the hell changes the pitcher and walks the guy? It's not like the Sox were going to sub Ramirez with his platoon. Jesus.
2007-06-03 19:14:03
916.   Shaun P
I despise Luis Vizcaino. I did not dislike Tanyon Sturtze this much. I did not dislike Tony Womack this much. I would even take Terrance Long over Vizcaino.

Wow, we couldn't have seen THIS one coming - VizcaiNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO comes in to intentionally walk a guy, to set up the double play. I'm trying to look up now how many DPs VizcaiNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO has induced so far. My guess is NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOne.

2007-06-03 19:14:10
917.   RIYank
905 I hate that IBB, but I don't see why it matters whether Pettitte or Vizcaino throws it.
2007-06-03 19:14:11
918.   mikeplugh
Hey everyone. Long time no see.

I think this game may be the one that makes me give up on this team completely. I think they stink and that Abreu flub in right should get him traded. I don't want to see him anymore. I hate this group of players.

2007-06-03 19:14:19
919.   Alvaro Espinoza
It's not Torre's fault that Abreu is a lousy defender.
2007-06-03 19:14:40
920.   Zack
I lvoe how the Sox fans have convinced themselves they never wanted Clemens, after an off season of openly kissing his ass...
2007-06-03 19:14:43
921.   monkeypants
895 I am one of those who was glad. It was the right move--no one could have predicted that the older, defensively challenged player coming off a wrist injury would outplay the younger, healthier player. The fact that it was the correct move and didn't work out so spectacularly makes this season's performance all the more galling.
2007-06-03 19:15:07
922.   Mattpat11
STFU Gammons.
2007-06-03 19:15:12
923.   williamnyy23
Why doesn't Lowell take one somewhere painful? If Viz wants to justify his place on this team, Lowell gets plunked.
2007-06-03 19:15:46
924.   randym77
Abreu doesn't dive. He doesn't crash into walls and he doesn't dive. We knew that when we traded for him.

He usually doesn't let balls get by him when they drop in front of him, though. I guess that one just fooled him. Wind? Topspin?

2007-06-03 19:15:56
925.   tommyl
Vizcaino, doing his thing.
2007-06-03 19:15:56
926.   bobtaco
916 Word.

918 Good to see ya. Mike!

Torre sucks.

2007-06-03 19:16:19
927.   Benjamin Kabak
921 Every single scout in the game could have told you that Sheffield would outplay Abreu. Abreu has never been close to Sheffield's level. EVER.
2007-06-03 19:16:25
928.   Mike T
Bringing in Viscaino is looking like a better decision with every batter. >:(
2007-06-03 19:16:27
929.   Ramone
I never thought that Abreu would be as good as Sheff this year, but I also never saw this meltdown coming. I thought it would be a net loss this year, but Abreu could be a solid RF for the Yanks for a number of years.
2007-06-03 19:16:30
930.   Alvaro Espinoza
918 I think you're right about that play jettisoning Abreu from pinstripes.
2007-06-03 19:16:35
931.   Simone
Gawd, Vizcaino. Oh well, it isn't like there is anyone who is actually good in the pen even Mo is shaky as hell.
2007-06-03 19:16:35
932.   Mattpat11
I love putting NotRandy in the game.
2007-06-03 19:16:50
933.   vockins
922 You still have the sound on? I'm listening to Zuma by Neil Young. Tempers the crap festival going on in the visuals.
2007-06-03 19:16:58
934.   RIYank
Dang, Mike. You think Andy Pettitte sucks???

I really don't get bringing in Vizcaino, I still don't get it. How could that be right? Vizier is for games where we're 6 runs behind, or else, MAYBE, when we're six runs up.

2007-06-03 19:16:59
935.   Jim Dean
I think Abreu is the anti-Jeter. Those awful plays make him look much worse than he really is.

This year: 100 RATE
Career: 99 RATE

2007-06-03 19:17:18
936.   randym77
So, Shaun, registered that domain name yet? ;-)
2007-06-03 19:17:24
937.   williamnyy23
923 Would a team with Nettles, Gossage, Munson...or even O'Neill, Cone and Clemens continue to play so meekly?
2007-06-03 19:17:25
938.   Yankees Brasil
924 No excuses.. horrible play
2007-06-03 19:17:32
939.   Benjamin Kabak
907 Yes it is. It was 4-0 a few minutes ago. Now it's 5-4. That's pretty bad. Need I remind you that if the Yanks lose, they'll be 14.5 games out and once again tied for last place?
2007-06-03 19:17:36
940.   Simone
Not bad. Vizcaino got out of it without too much damage.
2007-06-03 19:17:42
941.   Yanks Fan in Chicago
christ! that inning took an hour
2007-06-03 19:17:47
942.   unpopster
Ok, I officially hate that team on the field -- and I don't mean the Red Sox.
2007-06-03 19:18:42
943.   Shaun P
916 I was wrong. The Towel has gotten 3 GIDPs this year.

Of course, he's got a GB/FB ratio of .7, and .87 for his career - so he's one of the least likely guys on the team to get a GIDP.

But hey, its a close game the Yanks ought to try to win - why NOT bring in Vizcaino?

2007-06-03 19:18:51
944.   tommyl
918 Melky has been flat out entertaining so far. The rest, sigh, argh.
2007-06-03 19:19:10
945.   Simone
939 No need to remind me. However, I will remind you at this point the Yankees are not a good team.
2007-06-03 19:19:11
946.   RIYank
940 He did, but it's hard to give him credit for it, frankly.
2007-06-03 19:19:15
947.   bobtaco
940 I bet Torre sees it your way and leaves him in for the next inning.
2007-06-03 19:20:33
948.   williamnyy23
I sure hope Pettitte didn't hurt himself on the Lugo strikeout. The pitch before was the one where he had to stop mind-motion thanks to the ump calling timeout.
2007-06-03 19:21:02
949.   tommyl
907 Simone, I love your optimism. I wish I had it, I'm trying to stay up on this team, but its not just losing, its losing like this, its just painful.
2007-06-03 19:21:14
950.   Ramone
If Pettite isn't injured, Torre has thoroughly lost it.

Yes, Pettite can screw up and give up some hits. But with Vizcaino it is...expected. (Incidentally, I don't hate Vizcaino. He is a good pitcher whose arm was abused by Torre in April)

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2007-06-03 19:21:22
951.   OldYanksFan
924 He did try and put his whole body in from of the ball, and it bounced left. I think he should have caught the ball on the fly.

Pettitte pulled due to injury.

2007-06-03 19:21:49
952.   RIYank
948 I don't think so. Remember, he gave up three hits before that. Somehow he lost his location, I'd say.
2007-06-03 19:22:01
953.   OldYanksFan
We NEED to make JB work hard this inning.
2007-06-03 19:22:18
954.   randym77
Yeah, what happened with Pettitte? They seem to think he's injured.
2007-06-03 19:22:22
955.   Benjamin Kabak
948 Looked to me like he hurt his back on that strike out pitch.
2007-06-03 19:22:30
956.   bobtaco
948 I think that would effectively end the season and all hope.
2007-06-03 19:22:43
957.   Alvaro Espinoza
Ooh! A Cano leadoff walk?
2007-06-03 19:23:11
958.   unpopster
If Pettitte is indeed hurt, then the Yanks should just void there agreement with Clemens and Cashman should begin selling tomorrow.
2007-06-03 19:23:15
959.   monkeypants
927 Thanks for clearing that up for me. I don't know "every scout", so this is very informative. I was actually fooled that a career .909 OPS 33 y.o. not coming off a serious wrist injury might outplay a .career 921 OPS 38 y.o. coming off a serious wrist injury.
2007-06-03 19:23:24
960.   Simone
947 Does it make any difference? Seriously, I don't have a clue who are these relievers who pitch better than Vizcaino that some of you are clamoring for.
2007-06-03 19:23:33
961.   RIYank
950 Hm, that's a good point. Damn, maybe he is hurt.
2007-06-03 19:23:44
962.   williamnyy23
950 I also happen to think that Viz hurt himself during April when Torre decided it would be a good idea to see if he could literally pitch everyday.
2007-06-03 19:23:55
963.   Shaun P
936 Working on it right now, randym. ;)

927 Please. Sheffield can mash, but he plays the field about as well as Giambi does, and Damon can throw the ball farther. He's gotten 10 ABs in RF this year - and 193 at DH.

No, its like monkeypants said in 921 - it was the correct move. Also, the season isn't over yet, so its a little early to evaluate it.

Finally, as JL would tell us all if he was here, how much worse would things be now if, on top of all the other drama, Sheff was bitching about not having gotten an extension?

2007-06-03 19:24:00
964.   Zack
I think what I hate the msot about this team, besides their general suckatude, is how after these innings where they suck so bad, they jsut lay down and give up...
2007-06-03 19:24:24
965.   randym77
If Cano can walk, there's hope.
2007-06-03 19:24:27
966.   RIYank
960 Simone, seriously. Every pitcher in the bullpen pitches better than Vizcaino. Bruney has been terrific, for example.
2007-06-03 19:24:55
967.   Jim Dean
902 Shef is a everyday DH. What you wanted to platoon him and Giambi? Or give Shef an extension to have him play 1B?
2007-06-03 19:26:17
968.   Benjamin Kabak
960 Wait. What? Are you serious? I think even Johnny Damon would be a better pitcher than Vizcaino at this point.
2007-06-03 19:26:25
969.   Shaun P
950 If Pettitte is hurt, Cashman just got a "Get Out of Jail Free" card for the 2007 season. I'm not sure if that makes me happy or not.
2007-06-03 19:27:33
970.   Simone
949 I'm more of realist. I see the Yankees as a flawed team that struggles against good teams at the moment, but by a miracle they still have a good shot at the Wild Card. All is not lost if they don't beat the Red Sox in this series. We cannot freak out over every bad game or play. It is crazy and hard on the nerves. The Yankees will not play this badly all season long. Even the crappy relievers will improve as the season progresses. It is just a bad spell. The Wild Card is still within reach.
2007-06-03 19:27:54
971.   bobtaco
Jesus Christ, Torre really left him in there.
2007-06-03 19:28:20
972.   Mattpat11
For Christ sakes. This asshole Gammons is back every three minutes.
2007-06-03 19:29:21
973.   bobtaco
972 and he's gushing.
2007-06-03 19:30:03
974.   Simone
966 968 Every time I look at a game the relievers are giving up runs. Bruney did yesterday or the day before. Same with Mo. Am I wrong?
2007-06-03 19:30:33
975.   murphy
here's the thing:

i have long been preparing for the days that my beloved new york yankees would start to play mediocre baseball and no longer be in the hunt. over the last several weeks, i have come to the realization that this may begin this year. i was okay with that.

the sudden transformation into the kansas city royals, however, is something i could have never prepared myself for.

it is possible for me to enjoy watching a team in which my team is losing, but watching the yankees this year has become absolutely unbearable.

2007-06-03 19:30:36
976.   OldYanksFan
959 I agree. No one could have seen Abreu being this bad. Sheff is a scarier hitter, and I would take him over Abreu, all thing being equal. But with Sheffs wrist injury and Bobby being younger and faster, I though it would be a wash.

Actually, I believe it was Sheffs attitude/demand for an extension that got him traded. That and the desire to get 'younger'.

2007-06-03 19:30:52
977.   RIYank
970 Simone, you're right. But yeesh, the whole winning thing has to start sometime. And I thought it might be now.
2007-06-03 19:31:24
978.   Ramone
Minky broke his wrist?
2007-06-03 19:31:46
979.   Mattpat11
I still don't get the "He demanded an extention" line. If we picked up his option, what would his recourse have been?
2007-06-03 19:32:27
980.   Mattpat11
970 When do you think it would be a good idea to start winning series?
2007-06-03 19:32:54
981.   Benjamin Kabak
974 Yes

Vizcaino: 27 IP, 25 H, 21 BB, 15 K, 7.33 ERA
Bruney: 25.2 IP, 17 H, 13 BB, 24 K, 2.10 ERA

That's quite a difference.

2007-06-03 19:33:19
982.   RIYank
974 Simone, Bruney has given up 17 runs in 77 innings this year. That's damn good.
2007-06-03 19:33:23
983.   Shaun P
969 Let me clarify.

I want Brian Cashman to not be fired. But Pettitte is my favorite player, so it would suck to have him hurt. Even if Pettitte being hurt would mean Cash didn't get fired, I would be sad about Pettitte's injury.

2007-06-03 19:34:17
984.   Alvaro Espinoza
981 So you wanted to see Bruney relieve Pettitte in the 5th?
2007-06-03 19:34:19
985.   williamnyy23
975 I agree....making the playoffs isn't a right. Like it or not, the team CAN'T win every year. Having said that, this group shouldn't be playing as badly as they are. The manager has to take a good deal of responsibility for that. If Torre was a younger manager with a long future with the team, you could forgive a season like this. The fact, however, is that he is a lame duck. IMHO, there really is no reason to keep Joe outside of sentiment. I think it's a shame that all winter we were told by Cashman that sentiment wouldn't be a reason to bring back Bernie, but now we get stuck with Joe.
2007-06-03 19:34:34
986.   monkeypants
975 I agree entirely. For me it's not just the losing, but the aesthetics of the losing. Watching aging, injury riddled, underperforming, poor defensive players and (seemingly) questionable managerial moves makes the game unfun.

The whole season has turned into waiting every couple of innings for Jorge to bat.

2007-06-03 19:34:44
987.   bobtaco
Someone poke Torre with a sharp stick and get somebody up right now!
2007-06-03 19:35:00
988.   RIYank
982 Argh. Sorry. I was going to post the runs and innings, but that was the projection for the year from his current stats.
2007-06-03 19:35:17
989.   Mattpat11
Jesus Christ on a cracker. Gammons is back again.
2007-06-03 19:36:13
990.   bobtaco
Look Britton is warming. That's only for show ofcourse.
2007-06-03 19:36:15
991.   Benjamin Kabak
Holy sh*t. It's Chris Britton. Joe finally realized he had a good Major League arm in the pen.
2007-06-03 19:36:47
992.   RIYank
985 I believe Torre has almost nothing to do with it.
984 Yeah. Why not? It's a close game, I would like to win. As it turns out, Viz. did okay, though.
2007-06-03 19:37:03
993.   Ramone
The problem with the Yankees is that they reek of losing.

Look at it this way. They are down by one with a solid lineup. It is the sixth inning. The Red Sox bullen, outside of their closer, is hittable. There is no reason why they can't still win this game, despite blowing the 4-run lead. But who here feels confident?

2007-06-03 19:37:33
994.   Shaun P
979 Bitch, in the press, every day - including off days. Bad mouth other teammates who tell him (essential) STFU. Bad mouth the front office. Talk about what a crappy manager Torre is.

And finally, insist that Steinbrenner must be dying, or is being manipulated by the FO, because otherwise he'd have his extension by now.

The first bunch of stuff is what he did in LA, Atlanta, SD, and Florida, when he was due a new contract.

The last stuff he already pulled in his book.

Finally, Vizcaino - 28 pitches, 13 Ks, 15 BBs.

2007-06-03 19:37:35
995.   Benjamin Kabak
984 I mean, why not?

But I was responding to Simone who said that Bruney was just as bad as Vizcaino. I'm not advocating Bruney in the fifth, but in that situation, you've gotta go with a guy who's going to get outs. Luis Vizcaino in 2007 does not fit that bill.

2007-06-03 19:38:16
996.   RIYank
Anyway, this is Vizcaino's last batter.

993 Actually I do feel like they have a decent chance. They're underdogs right now, but I give them maybe 1/3 chance of winning. Seriously.

2007-06-03 19:38:19
997.   Simone
981 982 Okay, I'll take it back on Bruney even though he just gave up a couple runs. How many innings can he pitch? Can he go more than 1? 5 ideally for this game. Because he is on his own in that bullpen.
2007-06-03 19:38:56
998.   Jim Dean
979 He said he was going to cause problems without an extension.
2007-06-03 19:38:57
999.   Alvaro Espinoza
992 The 5th is awfully early for your 2nd best set-up man.
2007-06-03 19:39:13
1000.   WeMissPaulie
Its only 5-4, there is a chance you know...
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2007-06-03 19:39:21
1001.   Shaun P
990 No way Myers doesn't come in to pitch to Ortiz.

Britton might get to pitch to Manny, though. I hope to heaven he blows him away with a K, because if the kids throws some balls, we won't see him again.

2007-06-03 19:39:47
1002.   bobtaco
Yes! We got a break.
2007-06-03 19:39:50
1003.   Mattpat11
Lugo was no where near the plate there.
2007-06-03 19:39:56
1004.   Simone
Yes!!!! Yeah, Matsui-san, Jeter, and Jorgie!
2007-06-03 19:40:04
1005.   williamnyy23
992 That's fine...but there are also people who think Torre had very little to do with the teams success during his tenure. My personal opinion is Torre is great for a team that requires very little game management. The Yankees used to be that way...they no longer are.

One other point...Joe is 67! Age takes speed off the fastball...even a managers.

2007-06-03 19:40:06
1006.   Jim Dean
2007-06-03 19:40:10
1007.   Yankees Brasil
what a play by posada
2007-06-03 19:40:27
1008.   Mattpat11
998 What does that mean? he was going to refuse to hit?
2007-06-03 19:40:32
1009.   JeremyM
Wow, great play by Posada! Good call by the ump too, he was right on it.
2007-06-03 19:40:42
1010.   RIYank
999 Huh? I don't get it. Why would you want to blow the game in the fifth or sixth inning?

Wow, very stupid baserunning. Happily.

997 I'd put Proctor and Mo way ahead of Viz., and I'd still put Farns a big step ahead of him. (I'm irrationally optimistic about Farnsworth, I'm afraid.)

2007-06-03 19:41:05
1011.   williamnyy23
1002 Here's the example of how Torre puts the team behind the 8-ball. That should have been another run for Boston. Why you'd leave in Vizcaino is beyond me.
2007-06-03 19:41:09
1012.   Benjamin Kabak
999 That was a situation where you need to get outs. In effect, it's an in-game save. That's when you bring in your best relievers. It's a lot more vital to bring in a good pitcher with the game on the line earlier than it is to bring in your second-best reliever with a three-run lead in the 8th.
2007-06-03 19:41:09
1013.   Mattpat11


2007-06-03 19:41:19
1014.   Simone
977 One day, my friend, one day soon.
2007-06-03 19:41:20
1015.   thelarmis
what a heads up play and beautiful kick save by jorgie! he's having an all around incredible season
2007-06-03 19:41:24
1016.   Shaun P
2007-06-03 19:42:06
1017.   bobtaco
How about using Britton and letting him have a chance, since we know Viz sucks.
2007-06-03 19:42:07
1018.   WeMissPaulie
Was Andy injured? Seems awful weird to pitch so good then suddenly so bad.
2007-06-03 19:42:13
1019.   randym77
Have I mentioned lately that I heart Jorgie?
2007-06-03 19:42:39
1020.   Mattpat11
1010 I'd put Kyle Farnsworth ahead of no one.
2007-06-03 19:42:50
1021.   Jim Dean
1005 I think that's exactly right. His skill always has been plug and play. But there's absolutely no creativity.

For instance, Varitek has thrown out 1 runner in 18 chances this year. But why haven't the Yanks been running like made? Do they even have one SB this series?

2007-06-03 19:43:26
1022.   Ramone
992 Aside from injuries, the two big knocks against the Yankees have been (a) lack of heart and (b) bullpen mismanagement. If the manager isn't responsible for motivating the team and managing the bullpen, then I have no idea what the job entails.
2007-06-03 19:43:29
1023.   RIYank
1005 Yeah, that may be.
I think his field managing is mediocre, and that if he's replaced his replacement is likely to be just about the same. We don't know anything about his clubhouse effect except what the pundits tell us, and I take that with a grain of salt.
2007-06-03 19:43:30
1024.   Alvaro Espinoza
1010 Who do you envision pitching the 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th innings? Even in a perfect scenario (bullpen holds Sox down, Yanks take lead), you're asking a lot from Bruney, Proctor and Mo. No doubt Bruney is the superior pitcher but I think the 5th is too early.
2007-06-03 19:44:24
1025.   OldYanksFan
Unfortunately, the FULL BP is being used almost every other game. If you dont want Viz to pitch, we need to dump him and get someone that can eat innings. As long as he is on this team, and the SP leaves early, we will see Viz.

I guess seeing him in the 6th is better then seeing him in the 8th.

2007-06-03 19:44:31
1026.   Mattpat11
I never wanted to see Sir Walks A Lot again, but its better than Igawa.
2007-06-03 19:45:06
1027.   randym77
1018 Yes, I think he was injured. No details yet.
2007-06-03 19:45:09
1028.   Ramone
1005 Bingo.
2007-06-03 19:45:27
1029.   bobtaco
1021 Hopefully we will see some now Jim.
2007-06-03 19:45:39
1030.   Benjamin Kabak
1026 And Igawa had his one good outing of the month today at AAA.

1021 Now would be a great time to start the runner.

2007-06-03 19:45:42
1031.   Mattpat11
1025 I would dump NotRandy on whoever the hell wants him. Let them take Worthless as well.
2007-06-03 19:45:42
1032.   Jim Dean
For instance, why not send Damon right now?
2007-06-03 19:46:06
1033.   Simone
I look forward to Joe's departure as much as I did Mel's. I can't wait to see whose fault it is next when the Yankees struggle. I have had lots of fun with my "I told you sos" over the years of Mel bashing for every bad pitching performance.
2007-06-03 19:46:22
1034.   weeping for brunnhilde
Hey folks.

I tuned in, it was 1-0, then a couple minutes later, miraculuously, it was 4-0.

Why do they torture me so?

Couldn't they at least hold a 4-0 advantage for, oh, I don't know, maybe one inning?

They keep me right in that liminal space between dispassionate fatalism and a glimmer of hope that they might at least play good baseball for one night.



Pena catches that ball, nicely hit by Derek.

Our RF?

Good God, we suck.

2007-06-03 19:46:56
1035.   Ramone
You suck Beckett.
2007-06-03 19:47:09
1036.   Mattpat11
1030 Oh Jesus. The stubborn Cashman will try to bring him up and prove some kind of point now.
2007-06-03 19:47:23
1037.   Simone
I thought that Jeter got a hit there.
2007-06-03 19:47:29
1038.   RIYank
1024 Well, 1012 says what I was trying to say.

1025 That's the truth. But I want him to eat up unimportant innings. He came in with the score tied and the go-ahead run on third. I'd rather have Mo pitch there, frankly, and let Viz. pitch the ninth!

2007-06-03 19:47:57
1039.   weeping for brunnhilde
1015 No kidding, it's nice to have something to appreciate on this team.
2007-06-03 19:48:29
1040.   thelarmis
plays the game right had a shit eating grin on all friggin' game. i sure hope we can somehow eke out a victory, otherwise 9-0 will be the big news for the week...
2007-06-03 19:48:58
1041.   Jim Dean
1036 It's very early to call Igawa a bust.
2007-06-03 19:49:14
1042.   weeping for brunnhilde
How's Abreu looked at the plate tonight?
2007-06-03 19:49:17
1043.   randym77
I agree that it's just not fun watching this team. Gawd. Last year, I loved watching the Yanks, even with the likes of Nick Green, Miguel Cairo, and Aaron Guiel filling out the roster. The Yanks were more fun to watch than they'd been in years. But this's just tedious.
2007-06-03 19:49:29
1044.   Mattpat11
1039 Did you ever think it would have gotten to this point?
2007-06-03 19:49:37
1045.   JeremyM
I'm probably an idiot, but I'd bring in Thompson to bat here.
2007-06-03 19:50:14
1046.   Alvaro Espinoza
1038 And 1026 surmises what I'm getting at.
2007-06-03 19:50:30
1047.   RIYank
1041 I have hopes for him, too. Also Henn.
2007-06-03 19:51:02
1048.   Mattpat11
1041 I'm willing to take that risk. I don't need to watch this for several years like we've done with other Cashman signings.
2007-06-03 19:51:27
1049.   RIYank
1046 I don't follow you. Your point is that he's better than Igawa???

Yeah Bobby!!

2007-06-03 19:51:44
1050.   Jim Dean
1042 He roped one to left.

But he gave Papi a triple on a misplayed ball.

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2007-06-03 19:51:48
1051.   weeping for brunnhilde
God, I hate to be a fatalist, but I honestly don't think we have any chance of winning this game, despite the score.



(See how they tease?)

2007-06-03 19:51:50
1052.   JeremyM
1045 Like I said, I'm probably an idiot. Nice job Bobby!
2007-06-03 19:51:54
1053.   Simone
Okay, Derek, it is on you.
2007-06-03 19:51:59
1054.   bobtaco
Somebody better get a god damned sac fly here.
2007-06-03 19:52:02
1055.   Ramone
1033 Please. Mel was subpar. He is fortunate that he has been replaced by a pitching coach in Guidry who is fairly green and does not appear to be exceptional.

For the life of me I cannot figure out why teams don't get into bidding wars over first-rate pitching coaches like Leo Mazzone and Rick Peterson. I would have paid Mazzone $4-5M/year without blinking.

2007-06-03 19:52:15
1056.   RIYank
Here's something: I'm glad we don't have Javier Lopez on our team.
2007-06-03 19:52:23
1057.   Simone
Oops, got it wrong. It is on, Alex. Nice, Bobby. It is good that he is hitting again.
2007-06-03 19:52:59
1058.   Alvaro Espinoza
Is there a requirement in every Sox' players' contract stating that they have to do something REALLY stupid and unflattering with their facial hair in order to join the team?
2007-06-03 19:53:15
1059.   monkeypants
1024 This questions reveals a fundamental philosophical difference. You seem to asume that the later innings are more important so it is necessary to 'save' the better BP arms for that time in the game. This is the current baseballl tactical wisdom, brought to us in its most complete form by LaRussa.

The opposing camp (in the minority) argus that the best arms should be used in high leverage situations no matter what inning. Put another way, who cares who is left for the 9th inning if teh game is blown wide open in teh fifth when your crappy reliever gives up six runs.

In Leo Durocher's biography (Nice Guys Finish Last), he tells a self-aggrandizing tale about PH for his catcher late in an important game. The move left his team with no C, but the PH fortunately hit a game winning homer, so they never had to figure out what to do on defense. Anyway, a reporter asked him about the wisdom of making this move if things didn't work out as they did, and Durocher responded along the lines of: who cares about having no catcher for the 10th inning; if I didn't PH we would never have gotten past the 9th innning.

The moral is, I think, that current baseball tactics place too much emphasis on saving resources for the late innings instead of exploiting opportunities in the middle innings. Of course, this can also be taken too far (PR for Giambi in the fifth inning, or similar moves.

2007-06-03 19:53:20
1060.   OldYanksFan
1038 I agree except:
when do we have unimportant innings?
2007-06-03 19:53:27
1061.   Mattpat11
1051 You have every right to feel that way. We've seen a full year of one run deficits being insurmountable.
2007-06-03 19:54:06
1062.   Alvaro Espinoza
1049 Whoops! Meant 1025. Damn arthritis!
2007-06-03 19:54:15
1063.   Mattpat11
1058 I think Youkilis was trying to take attention off his looks. He failed.
2007-06-03 19:54:17
1064.   Simone
1055 Because teams know that pitching coaches don't make as much of a difference as fans believe.
2007-06-03 19:54:26
1065.   RIYank
1060 Well, I think I remember a couple yesterday.
2007-06-03 19:54:36
1066.   Jim Dean
1055 I don't know about that. The pitching sure hasn't improved, has it?

And he gets mad props from me for Small and Chacon in 2005.

Still, it was time and coaches get old just like players. And that's why it's Joe's time too.

2007-06-03 19:54:57
1067.   Mattpat11
All we need is a fly ball Alex.
2007-06-03 19:55:09
1068.   Jim Dean
They could send Abreu too - would that be so wrong?
2007-06-03 19:55:11
1069.   weeping for brunnhilde
1044 I think Tino and O'Neill and Brosisus were on to something.

They bowed out gracefully.

And Andy, bless his soul, finds himself back here for the death rattle.

What'd he do to deserve this?

I don't mind watching a graceful decline, but this train-wreck of an ending is just fugly and without soul.

Remember RJ?

The dark shadow he cast on this team?

Let's go Arod!

2007-06-03 19:56:00
1070.   weeping for brunnhilde
See the ball, hit the ball Alex!
2007-06-03 19:56:24
1071.   RIYank
1062 Okay, gotcha. Well, that's reasonable.
My basic view is this: put your best pitchers in the most important situations. Sure, that's often the ninth, and the fifth is often less important. But not always, and not (I believe) this time.
In any case, Vizcount did okay, so, whatev.
2007-06-03 19:56:28
1072.   thelarmis
1068 i think they should send bobby, too
2007-06-03 19:56:31
1073.   Mattpat11
1064 I agree with that to a point. I also think a pitching coach is important to in game situations. If a pitcher starts to lose his arm angle or something along those lines, they can be important.
2007-06-03 19:57:03
1074.   weeping for brunnhilde
All right, they're walking him.

Take the walk, Alex.

2007-06-03 19:57:18
1075.   Mattpat11
Just a fly ball.
2007-06-03 19:57:30
1076.   weeping for brunnhilde

How did he swing through that pitch?

He's blown it now.

2007-06-03 19:58:07
1077.   bobtaco
OK, now it's over.
2007-06-03 19:58:26
1078.   thelarmis
jesus fuking h. christ
2007-06-03 19:58:26
1079.   Mattpat11
Sweet Christ.
2007-06-03 19:58:27
1080.   Benjamin Kabak
A-Rod sucks. Let's start booing him again. He's been pathetic since the third week in April.
2007-06-03 19:58:34
1081.   monkeypants
Did Pedroia say "Hah" to Lugo?


2007-06-03 19:58:47
1082.   RIYank
I wonder if Manny playing in so deep made Alex try to pull it? That pitch was very hittable.
2007-06-03 19:58:52
1083.   Alvaro Espinoza
1059 Didn't want to get into it to that kind of detail for fear of someone assuming or reading more into my opinion than what is there. I'm actually a big fan of playing "for the win now" vs. bullets that may be useless at the end of the game (think NFL coaches holding timeouts as the clock expires). But in this particular instance, I disagree. Gonna drop the subject now.

A-rod... pfft...

2007-06-03 19:59:04
1084.   thelarmis
1082 hysterical!
2007-06-03 20:00:02
1085.   Jim Dean
1080 Wow.
2007-06-03 20:00:02
1086.   weeping for brunnhilde

I'm sorry, when I say that Alex is a bad hitter, this is what I'm talking about.

He has to do something there.

He had two good pitches to hit and he was at 3-1.

That's a poor at-bat.

2007-06-03 20:00:13
1087.   RIYank
1084 ;)
2007-06-03 20:00:17
1088.   thelarmis
doh, i meant 1081
2007-06-03 20:00:26
1089.   weeping for brunnhilde
2007-06-03 20:00:54
1090.   Mattpat11
1080 I think as long as A-Rod works out to be a net positive for this team, his dump truck of baggage and streakyness are worth it. But over the course of his run here, he's had periods where I'm not sure he has been.
2007-06-03 20:01:07
1091.   bobtaco
1086 Yep, just choke up and put the ball in play.
2007-06-03 20:01:19
1092.   RIYank
1086 Ugh, come on, you're being ridiculous.
2007-06-03 20:01:30
1093.   Ramone
1059 In part, I blame this on the rise in importance of the Save stat. In order to get good pitchers to agree to go to the bullpen, managers had to convince them that (a) Saves matter and (b) if they pitched well the manager would put them in Save situations.

I recall growing up, there was the Rolaids Fireman award. It was the Rolaids Fireman award not the Rolaids Closer award because you used your best reliever to put out fires. In the sixth, seventh, or eighth innings if necessary.

The nadir of the new philosophy may have been witnessed this April when Joe Torre kept his best reliever on the bench, to the point where he actually became ineffective from underuse, even as the rest of the relief corps' arms fell off in loss after loss.

2007-06-03 20:02:02
1094.   Mattpat11
1092 That was a hideous AB
2007-06-03 20:02:07
1095.   weeping for brunnhilde
Come on Jorgie, do it for old time's sake!
2007-06-03 20:02:14
1096.   Alvaro Espinoza
Easy, Jorgie. A base hit will do!
2007-06-03 20:02:19
1097.   Mattpat11
2007-06-03 20:02:30
1098.   OldYanksFan
Its hard to win when Jeter and Posada are the only guys hitting to their potential. ARod, aside from that 4 HR burst, has been bad since May. Abreu, Damon and Melky have been better of late, but the entire teams, sans Jeter and Posada, are playing poorly.

How can we win under these circumstances?

2007-06-03 20:02:50
1099.   Mike T
2007-06-03 20:03:05
1100.   RIYank
Hm. How about Jorgie cleanup, A-Rod bats fifth? That would have given us a run, and isn't it logical anyway?
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2007-06-03 20:03:07
1101.   thelarmis
fuking hell.

think i'm gonna do my laundry instead of watching this debacle.

2007-06-03 20:03:16
1102.   Benjamin Kabak
1085, 1090 I was being a little sarcastic with the booing :)

But just so you know, since April 24, this is A-Rod's line in 125 ABs: .224/.358/.376 with 5 HR and 11 RBI. Not so impressive.

2007-06-03 20:03:39
1103.   underdog
Newsflash: Peter Gammons gets very excited by all things Red Sox. Just thought I'd update you on that factoid.
2007-06-03 20:03:46
1104.   weeping for brunnhilde
1092 I know you think so, and that's ok.

I just think that's the time to execute.


2007-06-03 20:04:20
1105.   monkeypants
1083 Fair 'nuff!
2007-06-03 20:04:36
1106.   williamnyy23
1098 Why focus on the hitting? The Yankees scored 6 runs yesterday and have 4 runs today. You can certainly win under those circumstances.
2007-06-03 20:05:37
1107.   nemecizer
I can't take this anymore. I am going to bed.
2007-06-03 20:06:03
1108.   RIYank
1094 So you're agreeing that A-Rod is a bad hitter?
2007-06-03 20:06:17
1109.   Benjamin Kabak
Who's this clown singing God Bless America?
2007-06-03 20:07:05
1110.   bobtaco
Maybe Torre has a large carnaval wheel with the names of relievers on it.
2007-06-03 20:07:32
1111.   williamnyy23
That last AB was AWFUL by Arod, but he simply has not had many of those this year.
2007-06-03 20:07:40
1112.   RIYank
Yay, it's Farnsworth!
SHow 'em, Farns.
2007-06-03 20:07:48
1113.   underdog
Wait, when did God Bless America is still replacing Take Me Out to the Ballgame? I thought that was a temporary post 9/11 thing, or did I miss the memo about that?
2007-06-03 20:08:15
1114.   Zack
Like I said, I hate that these Yanks seem so inept and incapable of overcoming their own ineptness..
2007-06-03 20:08:35
1115.   Mattpat11
1098I think part of the problem with Joe, and I really like him, is he doesn't like to embarrass people. When another team has a weakness (Varitek couldn't throw me out) you need to exploit that for all its worth. If there's an outfielder with a noodle arm, run on him. If the pitcher is a big fat ass with a bad ankle, bunt on him.

When the team is sucking wind, you need to create situations where they can win. That's exploiting weaknesses. Thats making smart bullpen moves. That's occasionally intimidating the other team. If Fat Ass Ortiz things he's going to get beaned, maybe he won't lean over the plate. If Lowell thinks he's going to get his rib broken, maybe he won't throw hipchecks.

2007-06-03 20:08:41
1116.   underdog
(subtract "when did" from above)
I've still got this game on mute for the most part anyway.

God, I hate Manny.

2007-06-03 20:08:57
1117.   williamnyy23
1113 All teams play it on Sundays. The Yankees play it every night.
2007-06-03 20:09:21
1118.   RIYank
I like Manny. I wish we could work some kind of double-trade for him.
2007-06-03 20:09:27
1119.   williamnyy23
Any chance Krazy Kyle plunks Lowell?
2007-06-03 20:09:33
1120.   Jim Dean
1110 I think that explains it. It's called the "Wheel of Guts".
2007-06-03 20:09:33
1121.   Mattpat11
Yay Farnsworth.
2007-06-03 20:10:23
1122.   bobtaco
1120 and Proctor has ten spaces on it.
2007-06-03 20:10:26
1123.   RIYank
I think Farnsworth should be the Ortiz specialist. He's better at it than Myers.
2007-06-03 20:10:36
1124.   Benjamin Kabak
1118 Once upon a time, a way back in 2003, Manny was available on waivers. That was one of the worst move the Yanks haven't made in the last few years.
2007-06-03 20:11:45
1125.   Mattpat11
1108I think A-Rod is a man that can hit the ball very hard.
2007-06-03 20:11:56
1126.   RIYank
I love the Wheel of Guts image. For Proctor it's the Wheel of Misfortune. It does make sense out of some of the odd stuff we've seen.
2007-06-03 20:12:00
1127.   Mattpat11
1125 Very often
2007-06-03 20:12:24
1128.   bobtaco
1124 Steinbrenner wanted Ortiz too after the Twins dumped him, and Cash talked him out of it.
2007-06-03 20:12:26
1129.   monkeypants
1093 I sometimes wonder (totally in hindsight) what would have happened in, say, 2004 if Torre started game 7 with Rivera or Gordon--in other words, manage a game 7 like an all-star game. I'm not really too serious about this, but it is interesting to muse over.
2007-06-03 20:12:54
1130.   RIYank
1125 I agree!
I guess the difference between us, then, is that I think that's a good thing.
2007-06-03 20:12:56
1131.   thelarmis
1119 here's hopin'!
2007-06-03 20:13:52
1132.   thelarmis
the backwards K is kinda cool though, too! : )
2007-06-03 20:14:08
1133.   RIYank
Way to go, Farns.
2007-06-03 20:14:12
1134.   Simone
Okay, the Yankees are still in this thing.
2007-06-03 20:14:36
1135.   OldYanksFan
1106 I expected the Yanks to make the PS by being 5th in pitching (out of 14) and 1st or 2nd in offense.

So far, we are 10th in pitching and 4th in offense (although a very hot April skews that a bit). 10th is very disappointing, but we have had many pitching injuries.

I will guess that since April 25th, we are in the bottom half in offense. We have failed in many ways, but it's our offense being so poor thats hard to understand... or even believe.

2007-06-03 20:14:38
1136.   Alvaro Espinoza
1124 Why pick up Manny when you can pass on Beltran and sign Damon 4 yrs too late to a premium contract.
2007-06-03 20:14:43
1137.   Jim Dean
1122 So true. If they tie it up, what are the odds Proctor pitches in this game?
2007-06-03 20:15:06
1138.   weeping for brunnhilde
Morgan and Miller were talking about the possibility of Boston's stealing signs or at least location and unnerving Andy.

Did you guys see signs of that?

2007-06-03 20:15:23
1139.   Simone
1128 As Cashman pointed out, the Yankees already had Giambi and Nick Johnson at 1st base, what position was Ortiz going to play?
2007-06-03 20:15:50
1140.   williamnyy23
1129 He wouldn't use Rivera in the 12th inning of Game 4 of the 2003 WS, opting instead for Jeff Weaver. I can't imagine him being that creative.
2007-06-03 20:15:58
1141.   RIYank
1137 I'd say it's a near certainty.
2007-06-03 20:16:22
1142.   Mattpat11
1130 I think that's a good thing. However, I think he is fairly easily fooled. I think he guesses alot, and when you guess wrong, you look really stupid. He seems to struggle mightily when someone throws a pitch that isn't what "should" be thrown.

I contrast that with a Manny Ramirez, who I think is just a very good natural hitter. He seems to be able to react to pitches better.

2007-06-03 20:16:46
1143.   bobtaco
1139 I'm not saying Cash wasn't right... ;-)
2007-06-03 20:16:46
1144.   Jim Dean
1128 Show me a report on that about Ortiz. Everything I heard was that Big Stein biched after the fact - as in "WHY DIDN"T WE GET THAT GUY?"
2007-06-03 20:18:30
1145.   bobtaco
1144 "Steinbrenner has not been totally pleased with Cashman either. The Boss implored the GM to sign free agent David Ortiz in the offseason, but Cashman already had first basemen Jason Giambi and Nick Johnson in the fold. Ortiz signed with the Red Sox, and has had a breakout season (.294, 25 HR, 85 RBI), doing much damage to the Yankees."

2007-06-03 20:18:37
1146.   RIYank
Remind me why we didn't get Okajima.
2007-06-03 20:19:34
1147.   weeping for brunnhilde
Hang tough, Hidkei!
2007-06-03 20:19:41
1148.   Mattpat11
1146 Because Igawa and NotRandy were available.
2007-06-03 20:19:52
1149.   RIYank
Our Hideki wins!
2007-06-03 20:20:03
1150.   weeping for brunnhilde

Excellent hitting!

That was impressive!

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2007-06-03 20:20:13
1151.   Alvaro Espinoza
1142 FWIW - I second that opinion. If I can pick one Yankee for a big AB late in the game, A-rod isn't in the top 3.
2007-06-03 20:20:15
1152.   Mike T
Good at bat by Matsui.
2007-06-03 20:20:18
1153.   williamnyy23
Does any hitter look better on balls he hits well and worse on balls he does not than Matsui?
2007-06-03 20:20:23
1154.   RIYank
1147 You should have been more specific.
2007-06-03 20:21:11
1155.   Alvaro Espinoza
Smoked by Robbie!
2007-06-03 20:21:17
1156.   RIYank
Robbie is now awesome. I KNEW it.
2007-06-03 20:21:22
1157.   Simone
2007-06-03 20:21:26
1158.   Jim Dean
2007-06-03 20:21:28
1159.   bobtaco
Cano. F@ck yeah!
2007-06-03 20:21:30
1160.   Mattpat11
Well, thats encouraging.
2007-06-03 20:21:32
1161.   weeping for brunnhilde



2007-06-03 20:21:43
1162.   thelarmis
2007-06-03 20:22:06
1163.   underdog
Is it okay for guests to type "HA!" too? Otherwise I'll settle for a "Hee!"
2007-06-03 20:22:09
1164.   weeping for brunnhilde
Robbie has a beautiful swing.

God, if he can learn how to hit, he'll be unstoppable!

2007-06-03 20:22:10
1165.   bobtaco
Somebody better get a god damned sac fly here.
2007-06-03 20:22:13
1166.   williamnyy23
Lets put this season aside for a thing that has made me feel a little better is Cano and Cabrera have both snapped out of season long funks and have seemingly made adjustments. That's a very good thing because I was worried about both.
2007-06-03 20:22:22
1167.   Mike T
And an even better at bat by Cano. Missed a homer by a few feet.
2007-06-03 20:22:26
1168.   Simone
1143 Fair enough :)
2007-06-03 20:22:36
1169.   thelarmis
if cano doesn't cross the plate, i'm gonna set myself on fire. (props to schteeve, of course!)
2007-06-03 20:23:01
1170.   bobtaco
Bye bye Beckett win.
2007-06-03 20:23:23
1171.   Alvaro Espinoza
Fly ball will do, Josh. No need to hit it to Mars.
2007-06-03 20:23:27
1172.   weeping for brunnhilde
1142 Thanks for articulating that for me.

That's exactly what I mean.

2007-06-03 20:23:35
1173.   thelarmis
1163 you are more than welcome to type "HA!" underdog! : )
2007-06-03 20:23:50
1174.   Start Spreading the News
Meanwhile for those of us listening to the game, Susyn Waldman could wait to throw A-Rod under the bus. Sterling then piled on to the effect that A-rod can never get the hit with the guy on 3rd and one out. I just looked it up. A-Rod is hitting .400 in that situation for the year.

Meanwhile they didn't do much criticism of Jeter's defense when he made two errors yesterday.

I miss Scooter. These two suck.

2007-06-03 20:24:11
1175.   thelarmis
1170 sweet!
2007-06-03 20:24:11
1176.   Jim Dean
To give credit to Cash - the Yanks should have signed Vlad but Bossman overruled him. Vlad is smoking this year:

.349 .452 .608

Wouldn't he look good in RF and in the 4 slot?

2007-06-03 20:24:29
1177.   Mattpat11
1151 And, just to be clear, while it is a mark against A-Rod, I think the fact that he can hit that well without being, IMO, a very good pure, natural hitter, is a point in his favor.

But back to the point, no I don't think I'd call A-Rod a great hitter. I think he hits the ball well.

2007-06-03 20:24:30
1178.   RIYank
1151 A.E.: his OPS in the 7+ innings is like 1.000 this year. I'm too lazy to find late-and-close.
2007-06-03 20:24:57
1179.   weeping for brunnhilde
1166 Oh, absolutely.

It does my heart good.

It's the joy of watching someone develop.


Phelps, speaking of development.

2007-06-03 20:25:26
1180.   bobtaco
Pinch hit Cairo, he can get a sac fly.
2007-06-03 20:25:32
1181.   thelarmis
feh! c'mon melk, do it again
2007-06-03 20:25:41
1182.   williamnyy23
2007-06-03 20:26:11
1183.   Mattpat11
2007-06-03 20:26:20
1184.   RIYank
Wow, two shots at scoring Robbie, blown. Argh.
2007-06-03 20:26:23
1185.   williamnyy23
Bad baserunning...I think!
2007-06-03 20:26:23
1186.   thelarmis
well that sucked. stick it to 'em JD, let's go!
2007-06-03 20:26:34
1187.   monkeypants
Phelps giveth, and Phelps taketh away.


2007-06-03 20:26:41
1188.   Mattpat11
Lou has gotten big.
2007-06-03 20:26:45
1189.   weeping for brunnhilde
Terrible, Melk.

Damn it.

He's been reaching a lot this year.

Did he reach so much last year like that?

I seem to recall he was off balance much, much less often last year.

2007-06-03 20:26:53
1190.   bobtaco
1182 Joe's never heard of that play.
2007-06-03 20:26:56
1191.   underdog
1173 Thanks! Can I now type "Argh!" in sympathy? Or I guess if I really get pissed off I can type "Pinella!" which is my new code for cursing.
2007-06-03 20:27:30
1192.   Simone
Of all the non-moves the Yankees have made, not signing Vlad is the biggest as far as I am concerned. I'll never understand how Steinbrenner let himself became enamored with Sheffield over the younger and better fielding Vlad.
2007-06-03 20:28:37
1193.   Mattpat11
I was getting worried. We were looking competent for a while.
2007-06-03 20:28:46
1194.   Alvaro Espinoza
Wow. Runner on 3rd and no out. Only one word for that: disgrace.
2007-06-03 20:29:09
1195.   thelarmis
bollocks! at least we tied it. so... how are we gonna lose this game? pedroia homer off Mo w/ 2 outs bottom 9? i shudder to think...
2007-06-03 20:29:12
1196.   Yankees Brasil
this game is just painful to watch..
2007-06-03 20:29:18
1197.   RIYank
Dang, that was both gratifying and frustrating. Two innings in a row leaving that runner dangling on third with <2 outs! Makes the game a lot more difficult.
2007-06-03 20:29:22
1198.   underdog
Vlad is a sore subject for me too. The Dodgers were about as close as you can get to signing him a few years ago when the team was being sold and he and his agent couldn't work a deal with the transition ownership. Their poor GM was beside himself, and we still are too. That would've solved a lot of problems there, too.

Meanwhile, "argh." :-( Well, at least they tied it.

2007-06-03 20:29:24
1199.   williamnyy23
That's pretty brutal.
2007-06-03 20:29:24
1200.   bobtaco
1192 Everyone said his back was going to give out. The Yankees were spooked because of Mattingly's back issues.

I still think they should have signed him too.

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2007-06-03 20:29:50
1201.   weeping for brunnhilde
1180 That wouldn't have been a bad idea.
2007-06-03 20:29:54
1202.   Mattpat11
I'm liking this commercial. Its nice to see someone knocking self righteous bandwagon hopping celebrities.
2007-06-03 20:30:06
1203.   JeremyM
Ugh. Just when you think they can pull one out. I was really hoping for a squeeze there.
2007-06-03 20:30:46
1204.   RIYank
I guess we have Proctor, Bruney, and Mo available; the Sox have Papelbon and nobody, but one inning fewer to do it. So that's about even.
2007-06-03 20:30:49
1205.   weeping for brunnhilde
1195 Oh God, no kidding.
2007-06-03 20:31:06
1206.   williamnyy23
1203 So was I...but Joe is long past forcing the action.
2007-06-03 20:31:20
1207.   thelarmis
1191 you can only type "aaarrrggghhh!!!" if it comes with audio of rolling R's and a pirate accent. ; )
2007-06-03 20:31:29
1208.   bobtaco
What? No Proctor?
2007-06-03 20:31:41
1209.   monkeypants
1194 Now, most here tend to be sabermetrically inclined (myslef included), but I believe that inning was one of the times when it probably made sense to play for one run. But with the Sox infield in and Phelps up, a squeeze may not have been much of an option. Presumably Melky can bunt OK--does anyone also know for sure?
2007-06-03 20:32:10
1210.   weeping for brunnhilde
Btw, at the very least, if we're to lose this game (knock on wood) I at least think the team owes us a brawl.
2007-06-03 20:32:40
1211.   thelarmis
2007-06-03 20:32:43
1212.   Mattpat11
I despise Varitek.

And nothing annoys me more than when Rock Sutcliffe tries to claim he didn't want to wear that C.

2007-06-03 20:33:26
1213.   williamnyy23
1204 Is Proctor available after 38 pitches last night and appearing in 5 of the last 7 games?

I hope not, but with Joe, all things are possible.

2007-06-03 20:34:07
1214.   weeping for brunnhilde
1209 Melky can't bunt.

He had a beautiful bunt down the line the other day, but he's terrible.

Pops the ball straight up, or lines it to third.

2007-06-03 20:34:32
1215.   Mattpat11
1213 Tie game, I think everyone is.
2007-06-03 20:34:41
1216.   williamnyy23
1209 Melky can bunt...I think it was worth a chance.
2007-06-03 20:35:33
1217.   RIYank
1209 I checked Win Expectancy, and you're right. That is, you're right with avg. hitters, avg. pitchers, etc. The chance of winning goes up from 65% to 75% for the visiting team when they give up the out to get that run in. Interesting.
2007-06-03 20:35:36
1218.   weeping for brunnhilde
Did you guys see Abreu line that ball up?

He kind of struck a pose as he caught it, a sort of strained, fundamentally sound catching posture.

Two hands, feet planted in an exaggerated fashion, legs bent.


2007-06-03 20:35:37
1219.   Mattpat11
Cano's the one who can't bunt, IIRC.
2007-06-03 20:36:11
1220.   williamnyy23
1214 I disagree...I remember him laying a few nice ones down last year. He doesn't sacrifice well, but he can drag it. Let Melky drag a bunt and if he places it foul, then you move on.
2007-06-03 20:36:32
1221.   thelarmis
god, i hate cereal's finger flapping. i keep noticing more and more players not wearing batting gloves ala posada and alou. man, it's gotta hurt, no?!
2007-06-03 20:36:42
1222.   Start Spreading the News
1209 What about our bullpen besides Rivera tells you that a 1 run lead in the 8th is safe?
2007-06-03 20:37:22
1223.   RIYank
That's Bruney's big problem, of course. Sheesh. Now please, please, go after Lugo!
2007-06-03 20:37:28
1224.   weeping for brunnhilde
1220 Ah, that may well be, I'm thinking of sacs.
2007-06-03 20:37:34
1225.   Alvaro Espinoza
A BB to Crisp!? Yeesh...
2007-06-03 20:37:41
1226.   williamnyy23
Damn...walking Crisp is pretty bad.
2007-06-03 20:38:31
1227.   weeping for brunnhilde
1222 It's safer than a tie.
2007-06-03 20:39:16
1228.   Mattpat11
The more they talk about The Fat Man's HR drought the more I realize how this game is ending.
2007-06-03 20:39:18
1229.   thelarmis
bruney's all about k's and bb's. he'll get out of this unscathed.
2007-06-03 20:39:22
1230.   Alvaro Espinoza
If he throws anything other than a fastball to Lugo, I'll be the next to light himself on fire.
2007-06-03 20:39:54
1231.   RIYank
1230 You'll have to race me.
2007-06-03 20:40:18
1232.   thelarmis
1228 i'm still predicting it's the diminutive one of Mo...

i long ago hit mute and opted for live Tower of Power instead! : )

2007-06-03 20:40:19
1233.   OldYanksFan
Am I wrong, or is Bruney very prone to walk guys?
2007-06-03 20:40:41
1234.   bobtaco
1228 Myers is warming...
2007-06-03 20:40:44
1235.   monkeypants
Forget the damn runner and just focus on the batter with 2 outs.
2007-06-03 20:40:48
1236.   williamnyy23
1215 Proctor hadn't thrown more than 38 pitches since June 1, 2006. I really hope Joe will trust Britton before going to Proctor. There are games after this one.
2007-06-03 20:41:40
1237.   RIYank
Oh, lord.
2007-06-03 20:41:47
1238.   Yankees Brasil
oh god A-rod
2007-06-03 20:41:49
1239.   weeping for brunnhilde
2007-06-03 20:41:55
1240.   Mattpat11
That was...something.
2007-06-03 20:42:04
1241.   williamnyy23
1233 He is...the whole staff is for that matter...that's part of the problem.
2007-06-03 20:42:06
1242.   Mike T
2007-06-03 20:42:17
1243.   Alvaro Espinoza
What do you know? A base hit on a curveball.
2007-06-03 20:42:18
1244.   unpopster
Jesus H Christ, can this team do ANYTHING right?
2007-06-03 20:42:18
1245.   thelarmis
why am i not surprised that went thru. bruney will walk the next batter and end the inning with a strikeout...
2007-06-03 20:42:22
1246.   monkeypants
Mo for four outs, or stick with Bruney?
2007-06-03 20:42:41
1247.   bobtaco
it's not our year, the Yankees don't win under Republican administrations.
2007-06-03 20:42:42
1248.   williamnyy23
Covering my eyes now...
2007-06-03 20:42:45
1249.   RIYank
Whoa, that's scored a hit!
Anyway, time to get on it, Brian. Watch the guy with the bat, not the runners, and blow it by him...
2007-06-03 20:42:46
1250.   weeping for brunnhilde
I'm not getting on Arod for that.

Often he makes that play.

Very few do that consistently.

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2007-06-03 20:43:28
1251.   RIYank
Bobby!!!! Redemption!!!
2007-06-03 20:43:37
1252.   bobtaco
2007-06-03 20:43:37
1253.   williamnyy23
2007-06-03 20:43:41
1254.   tommyl
Did Abreu just make a catch?
2007-06-03 20:43:48
1255.   unpopster
OMG Abreu. OMG!
2007-06-03 20:43:50
1256.   Jim Dean
Sheffield does not make that play, BTW.
2007-06-03 20:43:56
1257.   Benjamin Kabak
I just died there.
2007-06-03 20:43:58
1258.   thelarmis
holy shit!!! thank you, bobby!!! now, please return the abreu from 2nd half of last season, with his previous power stroke.
2007-06-03 20:44:00
1259.   Alvaro Espinoza
Did Abreu just catch that liner on a dead sprint on wet grass??????
2007-06-03 20:44:04
1260.   Mattpat11
Holy Christ.

What in hell was that?

Not that I'm upset.

2007-06-03 20:44:11
1261.   randym77
All is forgiven, El Comedulce.
2007-06-03 20:44:11
1262.   Mike T
That looked like a nice snag by Abreu.
2007-06-03 20:44:13
1263.   monkeypants
Cue circus music for the Abreu Outfield Experience.
2007-06-03 20:44:14
1264.   Simone
Good play, Bobby.
2007-06-03 20:44:20
1265.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh my God!!

My heart skipped six beats.

I can't believe he caught that.

Man, they make some noisy outs, you know?

Our outs tend to be quiet, you'll notice.

2007-06-03 20:44:22
1266.   pistolpete
1253 Open your eyes - he caught it.
2007-06-03 20:44:34
1267.   williamnyy23
1251 Redemption? I don't know...he played that so poorly. I think a divine force took pity on him and placed the ball in his glove.
2007-06-03 20:45:07
1268.   RIYank
1256 Sheff doesn't get near that play.
1257 RIP.
2007-06-03 20:45:14
1269.   Mattpat11
1256 I actually disagree. Sheffield made a lot of whacky plays like that.
2007-06-03 20:45:22
1270.   Ramone
Thank God!

1246 My philosophy this year is that you just don't take out ANY reliever unless he is clearly sucking because you just have no idea how bad the next guy could be. In fact, I'd apply that rule to any Yankee pitcher

2007-06-03 20:45:58
1271.   williamnyy23
1266 Eyes are wide open...he nearly misplayed it into a loss. I didn't play above college, but was always taught to not chase the ball with my arm extended.
2007-06-03 20:46:00
1272.   RIYank
1267 So, divine forces are favoring him and you're not willing to grant redemption?? Man, you're tough.
2007-06-03 20:46:38
1273.   weeping for brunnhilde
That was really an amazing play.

God, let's make it mean something!!!!

2007-06-03 20:46:48
1274.   bobtaco
He wasn't even looking at it.

Like Lou in '78.

2007-06-03 20:47:05
1275.   RIYank
1270 I think that's very sensible. Also, it's less wear on their arms in the long run.
2007-06-03 20:47:12
1276.   williamnyy23
1272 If you put it that way...Bobby is saved (and hopefully reborn).
2007-06-03 20:47:28
1277.   unpopster
Does Papelbon have crotch itch?
2007-06-03 20:47:30
1278.   bobtaco
Cue up the theme from the Natural.
2007-06-03 20:47:35
1279.   thelarmis
well, bobby might not get traded this week. c'mon cap! how bout a bobby blast off paplebitch and a 1-2-3 from mo?!
2007-06-03 20:47:49
1280.   Mattpat11
I hit Papelbon better than Jeter
2007-06-03 20:47:59
1281.   RIYank
Papelbon threw yesterday (for some reason -- I wonder if RSN is blasting Tito for that?), so he's presumably on a short count today.
2007-06-03 20:48:32
1282.   williamnyy23
If the Yankees don't score...I hope the game gets rained out.
2007-06-03 20:48:42
1283.   monkeypants
1270. 1277 Good points.
2007-06-03 20:48:54
1284.   weeping for brunnhilde

That was close.

Hang in, Derek!

2007-06-03 20:49:07
1285.   Mattpat11
Fatty leads off the ninth. I'm horrified.
2007-06-03 20:49:14
1286.   RIYank
Youk is just so damn good.
2007-06-03 20:49:19
1287.   pistolpete
Why does Papelbon remind me of Fire Marshall Bill - facially, anyway?
2007-06-03 20:49:33
1288.   weeping for brunnhilde
Fuck, NOOO!!!

That's so unfair.

God damn it!

2007-06-03 20:49:50
1289.   williamnyy23
1281 Only 18 pitches since May 28 (yesterday). Francona seems to have a good handle on him.
2007-06-03 20:49:58
1290.   thelarmis
dammit. not 1 error for youk this whole season. that was prime time for his 1st. alright bobby, keep the momentum from the catch!
2007-06-03 20:50:05
1291.   Mattpat11
1286 When you look like that, God choses to bless you in other ways.
2007-06-03 20:50:13
1292.   bobtaco
1287 Private Pyle from Full Metal Jacket.
2007-06-03 20:51:22
1293.   weeping for brunnhilde
Shoot, that 2-0 was Abreu's pitch.
2007-06-03 20:51:23
1294.   pistolpete
The way I figure it, we need 2 runs here to feel the least bit safe going into the bottom frame.
2007-06-03 20:51:58
1295.   williamnyy23
Rtas...that might have been Ball Four.
2007-06-03 20:52:03
1296.   RIYank
1291 I guess, although I do feel that much of his ugliness is of his own free will. I mean, God didn't choose Youk's barber.
2007-06-03 20:52:08
1297.   thelarmis
1294 how bout a bobby bb and a-rod 2 run bomb?
2007-06-03 20:52:29
1298.   weeping for brunnhilde
High heat.
2007-06-03 20:52:39
1299.   tommyl
Hobbs time, c'mon, you can do it.
2007-06-03 20:52:44
1300.   thelarmis
or not...
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2007-06-03 20:52:54
1301.   Mattpat11
Come on A-Rod.
2007-06-03 20:52:55
1302.   weeping for brunnhilde
He should have ripped at that 2-0.

Next time.

2007-06-03 20:52:55
1303.   RIYank
1293 He would've been nuts to swing at that pitch, frankly. Best shot is a walk, by far.
2007-06-03 20:53:02
1304.   pistolpete
Oh PLEASE hit one out, Alex. Redemption has never been laid out more perfectly for you...
2007-06-03 20:53:05
1305.   Alvaro Espinoza
Hit the ball hard, Alex.
2007-06-03 20:53:35
1306.   RIYank
Man, Alex is only thinking about hitting it out.
2007-06-03 20:53:52
1307.   Mattpat11
1296 I think he was losing his hair to begin with.
2007-06-03 20:54:16
1308.   Alvaro Espinoza
2007-06-03 20:54:25
1309.   RIYank
I have nothing else to say.
2007-06-03 20:54:25
1310.   Ramone
2007-06-03 20:54:27
1311.   bobtaco
2007-06-03 20:54:29
1312.   Mattpat11
1304 YEAH
2007-06-03 20:54:30
1313.   Yankees Brasil
2007-06-03 20:54:34
1314.   pistolpete


2007-06-03 20:54:43
1315.   Simone
Yesssssssssssss!!!!!!!!! Alex does it!!!!
2007-06-03 20:54:44
1316.   thelarmis
hell yeah!!!! make it stand, Mo!!!!
2007-06-03 20:54:44
1317.   tommyl



2007-06-03 20:54:45
1318.   Jim Dean



2007-06-03 20:54:47
1319.   williamnyy23
Beautiful! You can't get MORE clutch than that.
2007-06-03 20:54:56
1320.   Ramone
Eat that, Big Papi.
2007-06-03 20:55:01
1321.   weeping for brunnhilde
For instance, do we ever see Manny swing through a 93mph fastball right down the middle?

Maybe, but Gone!!!!!!

Wow, see?

Just as I'm knocking Alex!!!


The other way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


He was fooled, though.

He's just so strong, and his swing so true.

But he was reaching.

2007-06-03 20:55:10
1322.   unpopster
2007-06-03 20:55:19
1323.   Mattpat11
2007-06-03 20:55:24
1324.   Zack
Holy shit did he really just do it again?
2007-06-03 20:55:35
1325.   Yankees Brasil
2007-06-03 20:55:50
1326.   pistolpete
Even if we lose, that made it all worth it. But I'd like to win please....


2007-06-03 20:55:54
1327.   bobtaco
1320 Wait for the end of the game please.
2007-06-03 20:56:07
1328.   Mattpat11
Now Mo has to shut down Manny and The Fat Man. And whomever else.
2007-06-03 20:56:25
1329.   Ramone
This would be a nice time to hit back to back to back to back home runs.
2007-06-03 20:56:40
1330.   pistolpete
Can we put Farnsworth back in?
2007-06-03 20:56:43
1331.   Mattpat11
1320 Don't taunt the Fat Man. Please.
2007-06-03 20:56:46
1332.   Benjamin Kabak
I can't really watch the bottom of the 9th. I can't take it. It's heart attack city.
2007-06-03 20:56:56
1333.   williamnyy23
1320 Easy! Big Papi will be at the plate soon looking to do some eating.
2007-06-03 20:57:29
1334.   RIYank
Oh, I forgot, I do have one other thing to say:


2007-06-03 20:57:29
1335.   Mattpat11
1330 Why in hell?
2007-06-03 20:57:30
1336.   mehmattski
Call the game, umps, it's pouring!
2007-06-03 20:57:40
1337.   Alvaro Espinoza
Jorgie swung at ball 4 twice.


2007-06-03 20:57:40
1338.   thelarmis
Enter Sandman
2007-06-03 20:57:44
1339.   Chyll Will
1322 Did it shut Gammons and E@$% up, too?
2007-06-03 20:57:53
1340.   Jim Dean
1332 Time to boo Arod?


2007-06-03 20:57:53
1341.   pistolpete
I think we proved we can hang with these pretenders - I like our chances to go on a run after this...
2007-06-03 20:58:20
1342.   Mattpat11
1333 AND he's due.

I'm scared shitless.

2007-06-03 20:58:27
1343.   pistolpete
1335 He owns Ortiz.
2007-06-03 20:58:32
1344.   RIYank
1336 Can't call it now, actually. It's a tie until the Sox bat anyway.
2007-06-03 20:58:41
1345.   williamnyy23
1332 Heart attack city doesn't start for me until the winning run is at the plate. I can handle's the walkoff loss that makes me wale like banshee.
2007-06-03 20:59:06
1346.   Benjamin Kabak
1340 GRRRR. I was joking!
2007-06-03 20:59:07
1347.   thelarmis
the heart of their lineup. my stomach can't handle this. is it too much to ask for an uneventful 9 pitch 1-2-3 inning? pretty please
2007-06-03 20:59:11
1348.   Jim Dean
1335 Papi seems to have trouble with the fastballs intended to burst into flames.
2007-06-03 20:59:29
1349.   weeping for brunnhilde
1320 They're right, Ramone, take it back, please!
2007-06-03 20:59:37
1350.   RIYank
I give Joe credit here for not calling on Myers.
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2007-06-03 21:00:07
1351.   Mattpat11
1343 I don't care.
2007-06-03 21:00:15
1352.   williamnyy23
1345 Make that wail ;)
2007-06-03 21:00:31
1353.   Simone
I can say is: The Yankees are due. Let's go, Mo, you can do it.
2007-06-03 21:00:32
1354.   Alvaro Espinoza
Let's go D. Gotta hold up!
2007-06-03 21:00:32
1355.   Ramone
Sorry, the Yanks are their own worst enemy. I'm more scared of Abreu and Vizcaino than I am of Big Papi.
2007-06-03 21:00:52
1356.   bobtaco
Just get the first out. Please.
2007-06-03 21:01:08
1357.   Mattpat11
At least he can't walk off.
2007-06-03 21:01:09
1358.   tommyl
Dear lord, I can barely watch.
2007-06-03 21:01:19
1359.   pistolpete
Call the game - this is dangerous for the pitcher to be on that slick mound...
2007-06-03 21:01:33
1360.   Mattpat11
1356 The second guy isn't much fun either.
2007-06-03 21:01:51
1361.   weeping for brunnhilde
Man, he hit that hard.
2007-06-03 21:02:29
1362.   weeping for brunnhilde
Everything this guy hits is hard.


2007-06-03 21:02:30
1363.   Mattpat11
This is where you need a big hook of some sort.
2007-06-03 21:02:36
1364.   mehmattski
Throw the changeup, Mo!
2007-06-03 21:02:56
1365.   RIYank
1360 I think he meant, don't let Manny up as the winning run...
2007-06-03 21:03:11
1366.   pistolpete
My heart is beating our of my chest... can anyone else hear it?
2007-06-03 21:03:12
1367.   weeping for brunnhilde
This guy is a serious hitter.

He's just such a good hitter.

Never an easy out.

2007-06-03 21:03:19
1368.   Mattpat11
1362 Absolutely terrifying.
2007-06-03 21:03:35
1369.   tommyl
High heat, high heat. Strike hime out, you can do it.
2007-06-03 21:03:54
1370.   Mattpat11
1365 That's valid.
2007-06-03 21:04:23
1371.   Mattpat11
I'm sick.
2007-06-03 21:04:28
1372.   Zack
This has to be a Banter record for posts, no?
2007-06-03 21:04:32
1373.   weeping for brunnhilde
He's a power hitter, but he's also a contact hitter.

He's just amazing.

2007-06-03 21:05:09
1374.   bobtaco
2007-06-03 21:05:24
1375.   Benjamin Kabak
Well, that was heart attack number one.
2007-06-03 21:05:25
1376.   Alvaro Espinoza


2007-06-03 21:05:25
1377.   pistolpete

(one down)

2007-06-03 21:05:28
1378.   Mattpat11
Holy Jesus Christ almighty.
2007-06-03 21:05:28
1379.   RIYank
Whew. Bobby, very nice.

But hats off to Papi, what a freakin' at-bat.

2007-06-03 21:05:42
1380.   weeping for brunnhilde



HOlding my breath...

2007-06-03 21:05:46
1381.   williamnyy23
1372 But it covers the whole weekend.
2007-06-03 21:05:51
1382.   tommyl
Holy wow. Ok, two more, c'mon Mo. We love you.
2007-06-03 21:06:08
1383.   Simone
My heart, my heart. I thought it was gone. I can barely watch.
2007-06-03 21:06:08
1384.   thelarmis
whew. okay, breathe...breathe.
2007-06-03 21:06:16
1385.   Mattpat11
I'll be honest. I think Manny scares me more.
2007-06-03 21:06:37
1386.   pistolpete
Mo's at least putting the ball where he wants it - good sign.
2007-06-03 21:06:38
1387.   Alvaro Espinoza
1379 Absolutely. And he smoked that pitch to boot.
2007-06-03 21:07:11
1388.   weeping for brunnhilde
Yes, Mo, we most certainly do love you!!!

You can do it, Mo!!!

2007-06-03 21:07:31
1389.   tommyl
2-0, bad bad bad. Strikes, please throw strikes.
2007-06-03 21:07:32
1390.   Zack
1381 yeah, but its still one thread!

I can't watch!

2007-06-03 21:07:39
1391.   Ramone
rain delay
2007-06-03 21:07:39
1392.   pistolpete
Anyone else worried Mo might slip on that mound?
2007-06-03 21:08:00
1393.   RIYank
Manny almost nailed that 2-0.
2007-06-03 21:08:27
1394.   tommyl
1392 please knock on wood, bite your tongue and everything else you can think of.
2007-06-03 21:08:47
1395.   Mattpat11
Good Lord. I'm dry heaving. I'm Tom Gordon.
2007-06-03 21:08:48
1396.   RIYank
That very small foul territory is exactly why Fenway is such a high-scoring park. Uh, not to jinx anything.
2007-06-03 21:08:57
1397.   weeping for brunnhilde
You know what?

Ortiz reminds me of Mattingly in his prime.

2007-06-03 21:09:11
1398.   pistolpete
1391 What, Chuck Knoblauch's in the stands?
2007-06-03 21:09:33
1399.   RIYank
2007-06-03 21:09:48
1400.   Mattpat11
Okay. One more.
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2007-06-03 21:10:05
1401.   tommyl
Wow, Mo is soooooo good.
2007-06-03 21:10:13
1402.   pistolpete
YES MO!!!!!!!!!!

(two down)

2007-06-03 21:10:15
1403.   weeping for brunnhilde


89 mph, struck him out!

2007-06-03 21:10:19
1404.   Ramone
hell, yeah!
2007-06-03 21:10:19
1405.   bobtaco
2007-06-03 21:10:26
1406.   thelarmis
nice. 1 more!
2007-06-03 21:10:40
1407.   Zack
Okay Mo, one more to go!

I can't watch!

2007-06-03 21:10:42
1408.   Ramone
hell, yeah!
2007-06-03 21:10:42
1409.   Simone
Yeah, Mo. One more to go.
2007-06-03 21:10:42
1410.   RIYank
What??? He swung!
2007-06-03 21:10:45
1411.   monkeypants
Wow--was that an off-speed pitch by Mo?
2007-06-03 21:10:48
1412.   williamnyy23
1395 Could you imagine if Gordon really did feel like we all do now? Talk about making the job of pitching that much more difficult.
2007-06-03 21:11:05
1413.   Simone
Nice job, Mo.
2007-06-03 21:11:12
1414.   Mattpat11
God almighty. Just end.
2007-06-03 21:11:14
1415.   pistolpete
Uh-oh, here's our potential game-losing umpire hose call.
2007-06-03 21:11:25
1416.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow, I don't like that.

This is no time for drama.

Let's just win the baseball game.

2007-06-03 21:11:32
1417.   tommyl
Um, can he dive into that anymore than he just did?
2007-06-03 21:11:38
1418.   Ramone
Best pitch thrown all night.
2007-06-03 21:11:38
1419.   RIYank
Man, Toaster is slow. Is that because there are so many of us refreshing every ten seconds, or is it just me?
2007-06-03 21:11:38
1420.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow, I don't like that.

This is no time for drama.

Let's just win the baseball game.

Bear down, Mo.

Bear down.

2007-06-03 21:11:38
1421.   williamnyy23
1410 That is a swing...the bat more than crossed the plate.
2007-06-03 21:12:01
1422.   Mattpat11
1414 In our favor
2007-06-03 21:12:02
1423.   Zack
Ugh. Come on Mo!
2007-06-03 21:12:02
1424.   Alvaro Espinoza
Keep it down, Mo!
2007-06-03 21:12:03
1425.   thelarmis
of course, it comes down to LOWell this weekend. strike the fucker out!
2007-06-03 21:12:18
1426.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, beautiful painting the corner, Mo.
2007-06-03 21:12:18
1427.   pistolpete
Not Lowell - anyone but him.
2007-06-03 21:13:03
1428.   weeping for brunnhilde
Sterling's restless.

Just called the 0-2 strike three.

He's indignant.

2007-06-03 21:13:08
1429.   thelarmis
1419 super slow. i thought it was just my crappy laptop...
2007-06-03 21:13:14
1430.   pistolpete
Broken bat one hopper to Cano - I'm calling it now.
2007-06-03 21:13:16
1431.   RIYank
Okay, that 0-2 pitch was over the corner.
2007-06-03 21:13:41
1432.   Alvaro Espinoza
I'd come in on Lowell's hands hard. Break that bat!
2007-06-03 21:13:48
1433.   RIYank
Wow, wow.
I'm glad I hung out with you guys tonight. It was dramatic.
2007-06-03 21:13:53
1434.   Simone
The end. Good job, Mo. You picked up your teammates.
2007-06-03 21:13:57
1435.   Jim Dean
2007-06-03 21:14:00
1436.   Alvaro Espinoza
2007-06-03 21:14:00
1437.   Yankees Brasil
2007-06-03 21:14:00
1438.   bobtaco
Old school Mo.
2007-06-03 21:14:05
1439.   Mattpat11
Thats the Mo I like to see.
2007-06-03 21:14:13
1440.   williamnyy23
Phewwww....very nice inning Mo.
2007-06-03 21:14:15
1441.   weeping for brunnhilde



2007-06-03 21:14:18
1442.   thelarmis
2007-06-03 21:14:19
1443.   williamnyy23
Phewwww....very nice inning Mo.
2007-06-03 21:14:33
1444.   pistolpete

He couldn't have sounded more disappointed - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.......

2007-06-03 21:15:08
1445.   RIYank
1430 That was the only result better than what you called.
Man, Mo is back! He's BACK!

Now, if only Andy isn't really hurt. :-(

2007-06-03 21:15:08
1446.   tommyl
Wow, that ended not the way I expected after the 5th inning. A-Rod game winning HR (and 2 more RBIs to boot), ESPN naming him player of the game and Lowell falling on his ass striking out on a Mo cutter.

For one night at least, all is right.

2007-06-03 21:15:09
1447.   Zack
2007-06-03 21:15:20
1448.   randym77
Sweet. Is that Papelbon's first loss?
2007-06-03 21:15:20
1449.   bobtaco
and ESPN is quiet as a funeral.
2007-06-03 21:15:43
1450.   Alvaro Espinoza
Abreu w/ the (redemption) catch, A-rod w/ the bomb and another day at the office for Mo.

And we don't have to listen to Joe Morgan anymore!

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2007-06-03 21:15:45
1451.   williamnyy23
Sad to see Miller sign off so glumly.
2007-06-03 21:15:45
1452.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow, we won the baseball game!!

I'm really ecstatic!!

How cathartic.

Christ almighty we needed that.

Especially from Mo, baling out Andy this time!

2007-06-03 21:15:45
1453.   Yankees Brasil
and we still got to see Youkilis get hit.. great inning Mo!
2007-06-03 21:15:49
1454.   Simone
RIYank, this might be it, the beginning of better Yankee baseball.
2007-06-03 21:16:03
1455.   williamnyy23
Sad to see Miller sign off so glumly.
2007-06-03 21:16:16
1456.   Mattpat11
Well, as much as I hate to discuss "signs" there were a number of positive ones tonight. Coming back, Mo looking really good and beating Manny and the Fat Man, A-Rod beating Paps.
2007-06-03 21:16:40
1457.   Chyll Will
HA!!! (Down I go zzzzzz...)
2007-06-03 21:16:43
1458.   bobtaco
Nice cross contry flight for the Sox tonight too :-)
2007-06-03 21:17:29
1459.   weeping for brunnhilde
And it's only fitting that I give all praise to Alex, who won us the game, despite the fact that I never quite feel comfortable when he steps into the box.

Thanks, Alex!!



2007-06-03 21:17:29
1460.   pistolpete
Mo looked like the old Mo - he was spotting just about EVERY pitch where he wanted it. Good sign of things to come.

My adrenaline is UP, ladies and gents - won't be able to get to bed at least for another hour... lol

2007-06-03 21:18:33
1461.   Zack
Three game winning HRs in the 9th for A-Rod this year? Unreal
2007-06-03 21:18:41
1462.   monkeypants
1455 To be fair, Miller was probably a little spent after all of his "excitement" when the Sox scored four in the same inning.
2007-06-03 21:19:08
1463.   RIYank
I just listened to Waldman's interview with A-Rod. Here it is (I'm not a stenographer, so gimme a break).

Suzyn: what pitch were you looking for on the HR?
A-Rod: Just looking to stay alive, just trying to slap it to right field (!)

Suzyn: what about the inning when you couldn't get the fly ball to drive the run in?
A:I was about six inches ahead of the pitch. The difference this time was I pulled back about six inches and went to right, which is what I do best.

(Then she teases him into smiling and admitting it was very satisfying for him.)

2007-06-03 21:19:19
1464.   Emma Span
Phew. Ugly game, but a beautiful ninth inning.
2007-06-03 21:20:13
1465.   RIYank
1454 High Five on that, Simone. Or cheers, whichever you prefer.
2007-06-03 21:21:28
1466.   RIYank
Emma, I love games like this one. Okay, classic pitcher's duels are more elegant, more beautiful, but somehow games like this one capture the spirit of baseball. Which is, holy jeez what's going to happen next???
2007-06-03 21:21:36
1467.   Alvaro Espinoza
Only difference btwn tonight and last night is that the Yanks were able to survive one disasterous inning.
2007-06-03 21:22:22
1468.   tommyl
I just saw the Posada block on replay, wow, that was a really clutch play.
2007-06-03 21:23:37
1469.   pistolpete
Posada is slowly becoming my new favorite player...
2007-06-03 21:24:09
1470.   pistolpete
WHAT, no YES postgame?!! Damn it...
2007-06-03 21:24:31
1471.   Zack
The Yanks managed, thanks to a gutsy performance by the BP (nice when they actually show up) and two hits. They left a lot of runners on and played bad D again, but hey, I'll take it! Signs of fighting are always good!

And thats two series in a row that we take from the Sox.

2007-06-03 21:25:06
1472.   Alvaro Espinoza
1470 Shhhhhhh!

I'm trying to listen to Jerry Rice.

2007-06-03 21:25:48
1473.   Jim Dean
1468 Yes it was!

1469 I have to say I hope he finally gets his props this year with some bling. He's been living in the shadow of Ivan Piazza for too long.

2007-06-03 21:27:12
1474.   RIYank
Posada has been my favorite player since... not sure. Long time. I've been feeling sad that his best season ever might turn out to be such a forgettable Yankee season. But, maybe not...
2007-06-03 21:28:24
1475.   bobtaco
Who is pitching tomorrow?
2007-06-03 21:28:47
1476.   yankz
oh HELL yes:

Very few things please me more than Arod shutting thousands of drunk Bostonians up. And off their prized little 'Boner too...

Vintage Mo. That last pitch to Lowell was NASTY.

Melky making a great diving catch.

Ortiz failing in a clutch spot.

And only one error!

The division race is probably over. But games like these remind me why I love baseball.

And F**K ESPN and FOX. FOX for showing that ridiculous "Arod is bush" montage yesterday, and ESPN for not STFU about all the sh1t surrounding the guy. Although, Joe Morgan was the man tonight.

2007-06-03 21:28:53
1477.   Jim Dean
Good night all.

Matt DeSalvo, baby!


2007-06-03 21:29:05
1478.   tommyl
Just remember, all of us who were here tonight, optimistic or bitching, never, ever can be called fair weather fans. Anyone who can continue watching after last night and that 5th, good to be with you guys.
2007-06-03 21:29:28
1479.   3rd gen yankee fan
2007-06-03 21:29:36
1480.   weeping for brunnhilde
1454 Seriously, Simone, let's hope so!

God, I'd love to have something to believe in.

Not the crispest game, boys, but we'll take it.

The question is, does this team have it in them at least to play consistently crisp baseball?

Because if we can do that, we can get the wild card and knock Boston out in the first round.

How sweet would that be?

What's that, you say, I'm getting ahead of myself?

A guy can dream, can't he?

2007-06-03 21:30:07
1481.   pistolpete
1476 >> The division race is probably over. >>

Well you know that's the battle cry in the Boston papers tomorrow... :-P

2007-06-03 21:30:19
1482.   RIYank
Night, Jim D. Ha!

1478 Go, baseball! Go, Banter!

2007-06-03 21:31:04
1483.   weeping for brunnhilde
1463 Thanks, RI. Maybe I'm unfair to the guy...a little bit.


2007-06-03 21:31:35
1484.   bobtaco
1478 exactly.
2007-06-03 21:32:08
1485.   yankz
Jon Miller was worse than Morgan tonight. I really think he wet himself every time Beckett hit the strike zone.

and HELL yes to reading through the game threads of an awesome win. HA!

2007-06-03 21:32:28
1486.   weeping for brunnhilde
1466 Agreed, RI. I much prefer a crisp pitcher's duel, but this was baseball.

This game had a soul.

2007-06-03 21:32:35
1487.   RIYank
1480 We aren't allowed to play Boston in the first round. So we'll have to decide whether we prefer to have them kicked out by Cleveland, or wait for the second round and knock them out ourselves.
2007-06-03 21:33:20
1488.   3rd gen yankee fan
Another bennie of this gane: soaked, cold & glum Sox fans.
2007-06-03 21:33:43
1489.   weeping for brunnhilde
1478 Hear, hear, tommyl. Ain't it the truth.
2007-06-03 21:33:49
1490.   RIYank
Weeping, I'm practically biting through my tongue, but I am not going to throw some of those earlier words back at you...
2007-06-03 21:34:56
1491.   bobtaco
1486 This is why I don't get anyone that says that Baseball is boring.
2007-06-03 21:35:03
1492.   yankz
1480 Unfortunately, can't face Boston till the ALCS. All the sweeter.

I'm a little scared that 07 Yankees:07 Sox :: 05 D-Rays:05 Yankees.

1461 HA!

2007-06-03 21:35:19
1493.   RIYank
1488 Ah, sir, you are a schadenfreude connoisseur. I admire that.
2007-06-03 21:36:20
1494.   weeping for brunnhilde
1468 1469 No kidding, he's really, really stepped it up these past couple of years.

His finest moment, the one I'll always remember, was that little flair against Pedro.

That was his shining moment.

That and the solo shot against Zito in...what was it, 2000? The flip game?

2007-06-03 21:37:52
1495.   bobtaco
1494 Yep, I was there for that one (Flip Game).
2007-06-03 21:37:57
1496.   yankz
1494 2001, I'll never forget it. Moose started that game.

Ditto all the Posada love.

The New A-Rod is here to stay. Can you imagine if he had had this week last year? Papelbon would've K him on 3 pitches, no doubt about it.

2007-06-03 21:39:32
1497.   weeping for brunnhilde
1490 :)

Feel free.

I'm about nothing if not learning.

2007-06-03 21:40:17
1498.   Mattpat11
Well, I've calmed down.
2007-06-03 21:41:03
1499.   RIYank
Okay, I'm packing it in, Banterers. I might skip tomorrow's game with youse, just out of tiredness (have to be up early tomorrow), but, till next time: HA!
2007-06-03 21:41:38
1500.   weeping for brunnhilde
1496 Man, that's right, it was Moose, so it was '01.

1495 Were you anywhere near those annoying drummers?

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2007-06-03 21:41:55
1501.   Mattpat11
Pettitte with Back Spasms. Best possible scenario, all things considered.
2007-06-03 21:42:27
1502.   weeping for brunnhilde
1499 Ha!
2007-06-03 21:43:11
1503.   weeping for brunnhilde
1501 That's a day-to-day kind of thing, right?

He shouldn't miss a start for that, right?

2007-06-03 21:43:42
1504.   Mattpat11
1503 They're going to monitor him, but he thinks he'll make his next start.
2007-06-03 21:43:56
1505.   yankz
What's the Banter record for posts? 2k, right? Well, we're halfway to the HOF...
2007-06-03 21:45:30
1506.   weeping for brunnhilde
1505 Yeah, but we'd need an asterix. This is a three-game thread, is it not?
2007-06-03 21:50:07
1507.   williamnyy23
1467 The difference between tonight and yesterday was Abreu caught the damn ball!!
2007-06-03 21:51:18
1508.   yankz
1506 Actually, I believe the record was set during at least a doubleheader...
2007-06-03 21:54:19
1509.   bobtaco
1500 Upper deck, 3rd base side. Walk up tickets.
2007-06-03 21:57:10
1510.   seamus
So do folks think the back spasms is what made Pettitte's pitches so flat that inning? I was watching on delay so just got to the end of the game (though I missed the bottom fo the 9th because apparently adding an hour on the dvr record time isn't enough for yanks-sox).
2007-06-03 21:57:30
1511.   weeping for brunnhilde
1500 Must have been something.

The most memorable game I think I was at was when Reggie hit a homerun against the Yanks in 1982.

I was 9, and he hit it out to left-center, as I recall, and the whole Stadium rose and chanted "Re-ggie, Re-ggie, Re-ggie!"

That was nice.

2007-06-03 21:59:30
1512.   weeping for brunnhilde
1510 Wish I knew. I didn't notice anything, but I have a pretty poor eye for pitching mechanics.
2007-06-03 22:01:47
1513.   seamus
1512 I hear ya. Maybe someone who knows will chime in.
2007-06-03 22:04:12
1514.   JeremyM
I agree with everyone's comments on Miller, my God was he ridiculous. The topper was the reactions, or lack thereof, to the A-Rod homer. I kept thinking how different it would be if a Sox player had done that. He just about keeled over on that Pedroia double.

For some reason, unlike most sane people, Morgan doesn't bother me, although he makes some idiotic points. But I don't get the sense that he plays favorites.

2007-06-03 22:06:02
1515.   Mattpat11
I don't go to memorable games. My biggest is probably the Melky walk off in the pouring rain.
2007-06-03 22:06:58
1516.   yankz
1514 I agree that Morgan is the less biased. He was hardcore defending A-God today. But his idiocy really gets to me sometimes.
2007-06-03 22:09:45
1517.   seamus
1516 I actually enjoyed much of Morgan's commentary tonight. What I've liked about the Arod Ha! discussion is how it has led to some interesting dialogue about how antics have changed on the playing field over time. I find that very interesting and fun to hear about.
2007-06-03 22:10:52
1518.   yankz
NYT bends over for the Sox pen, casually mentions that it blew the game today:

2007-06-03 22:15:53
1519.   yankz
1517 I haven't heard a single person who has played the game criticize A-God's HA! Just that tool rookie and some insecure Sox fans.
2007-06-03 22:19:14
1520.   seamus
1519 now that you mention it, neither have I.
2007-06-03 22:26:48
1521.   JeremyM
1518 What a bizarre article. Did Peter Gammons contribute?
2007-06-03 22:29:13
1522.   yankz
Watched the replays, and Miller is even more of an idiot than I remembered. He completely shuts up after Cano's 3B, A-Rod's HR, and Abreu's catch. In fact, the latter messes with his head. After the catch, he said, "And Big Papi will lead off the 9th."

No, you old sack of sh1t Yankee hater, Derek Jeter will come up to lead off the 9th.

2007-06-03 22:46:25
1523.   Zack
1518 Typical Chasticle article. Very little actual information (such as "Why has he been able to be incredible? "He has no fear," Papelbon said." Wow, that really expalins a lot, Murray) combined with a desire to make the Yankees look bad.
2007-06-03 23:02:32
1524.   Mattpat11
1520 Omar Vizquel.

Bitter POS never won a god damn thing.

2007-06-03 23:14:56
1525.   underdog
If y'all are looking for to help boost the relief corps, this wouldn't be a bad pick up, imho.

Knowing that he was a Yankee once before and it wasn't his best year (not terrible) but he's been good since then.. just a thought.

2007-06-03 23:17:43
1526.   Mattpat11
2007-06-03 23:43:40
1527.   Mattpat11
This just in.

Peter Gammons reports that both the A-Rod HR and Fatty Fly out balls in the ninth were products of defective baseballs. Gammons says that if the Red Sox weren't struck with this epidemic of previously unheard of "defective baseballs" Papelbon would have struck out A-Rod and Ortiz would have walked off.

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