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Blue Streak
2005-09-23 07:22
by Cliff Corcoran

Man, can you believe it's been a whole four days since the Yankees have played the Blue Jays? Feels like . . . Oh, right.

The Jays roster remains the same as it was last weekend when the Yanks took two of three in Toronto, though there's a chance that Orlando Hudson could return to action this weekend after sitting since September 7 due to an ankle injury. Considering the fact that all three of last weekend's contests were decided by a single run, and that the Jays are coming off a split with the Mariners in which they outscored their opponent by a single run over the course of four games, the Jays could use any advantage that might tip the balance in their favor. Still, one hopes that the upgrade from struggling rookie Aaron Hill to a less mobile Hudson wouldn't be enough to overcome the disadvantage the Jays face as a .459 road team coming in to face a team playing .654 ball at home that has handled them nicely thus far this season (Yanks own the series 10-5).

While the Yanks play three at home against the Jays followed by four on the road against the O's, the second-place Red Sox (now trailing by a nice, round full game) do the exact opposite (three in Baltimore, then four at home against Toronto), so one would hope that neither of these teams is ready to roll over completely. Still, it sure would be nice to see the Yanks clean house on their final home stand of the year.

One item already in their favor is that Joe Torre has decided to go with Chien-Ming Wang on Sunday (as well he should) moving Aaron Small to the bullpen, which can use all the help it can get. With that, I've been able to project the pitching match-ups for the remainder of the season on the side bar.

Tonight, the Yanks send Shawn Chacon to the mound. Chacon has owned the Jays in two starts since joining the Yanks (total line: 15 IP, 10 H, 2 R, 0 HR, 5 BB, 7 K), and turned in a gem in Toronto last Saturday. The next day, Ted Lilly, who starts against Chacon tonight, turned in his first quality start since Bastille Day, handing the Yankees their only loss since September 10, but was lit-up by the Bombers in two starts at the beginning of the season. One hopes the Jays aren't overly familiar with Chacon at this point and that he can continue his dominance of the remaining Canadian team. Meanwhile, here's hoping the O's take the never-say die spirit that gave us all fits over the past three days and perhaps some individual anger and stick it to the Sox.

Comments (249)
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2005-09-23 14:19:56
1.   vockins
I have a couple of questions about Johnson v. Schilling.

What are the bad cheap seats in Fenway? Right field? What are the decent ones? Or are they all bad?

Does anyone have any suggestions for where I should park my NY plated car around Fenway? I'd like to avoid having it flipped over and burned after the Yanks knock the Sox out of the playoffs.

2005-09-23 14:55:40
2.   unpopster
vockins...no joke here. DO NOT park your NY plate car around Fenway Park. I was stupid enough to park my NY plated car across the street from the Green Monster (in the Landsdowne Street garage) for the 1999 Clemens-Pedro ALCS game.

No joking, I drove out of the garage and onto Landsdowne Street, into a crowded street of drunken, Sox fans and had everything not nailed down thron at my car. In fact, it got so bad that I seriously thought that I was going to get Reginald Denny'd -- pulled out of the car and breaten to a pulp.

Absolutely no exaggeration. God's honest truth!

2005-09-23 16:09:06
3.   rbj
Oh no, it's an ESPN game.
2005-09-23 16:10:49
4.   BklynBomber
Sut...cliffe.... no. no. noooooooo...
2005-09-23 16:10:51
5.   Stormer Sports
Here we go.

Go get 'em Shawn!!!!

2005-09-23 16:13:20
6.   Rich
Nice job of getting over to 1B by Chacon.
2005-09-23 16:13:52
7.   Rich
I don't let Wells beat me.
2005-09-23 16:14:23
8.   randym77
Our pitchers have been pretty good fielders of late.
2005-09-23 16:15:27
9.   BklynBomber
Breaking ball looks crisp. That's a good thing.
2005-09-23 16:21:08
10.   Rich
BOOM!
2005-09-23 16:21:14
11.   rbj
Sweet, Jete.
2005-09-23 16:21:26
12.   randym77
Nice start, Jete!
2005-09-23 16:21:30
13.   BklynBomber
Allright, Jetes!
2005-09-23 16:22:13
14.   Mattpat11
Another lead off HR for DJ.

Look our Rickey.

Eh, maybe not.

2005-09-23 16:22:34
15.   BklynBomber
Let's go, Robbie. Too much noise out here (Bay Area) about Street. Have a huge night...
2005-09-23 16:22:55
16.   Rich
BOOM!
2005-09-23 16:23:11
17.   BklynBomber
That's EXACTLY what I'm takin' about!
2005-09-23 16:23:22
18.   randym77
Looks like it might be a short night for Lilly.
2005-09-23 16:23:38
19.   rbj
That's a back-to-back jack, fact.
(with apologies to Bill Murray.)
2005-09-23 16:24:07
20.   BklynBomber
LOL! aaaaaaarrrmy training, sir!
2005-09-23 16:25:49
21.   randym77
Walked A-Rod. Probably smart, given what happened with Jeter and Cano.
2005-09-23 16:26:07
22.   BklynBomber
C'mon Sheff, keep the pressure going...
2005-09-23 16:30:47
23.   Rich
Pour it on.
2005-09-23 16:30:49
24.   BklynBomber
Nice AB, Mats!
2005-09-23 16:31:18
25.   Mattpat11
MATSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUI
2005-09-23 16:33:39
26.   randym77
Don't let up! Keep your foot on their necks.
2005-09-23 16:33:51
27.   BklynBomber
Sutcliffe is a hack.
2005-09-23 16:33:58
28.   atc
Yup, I've had just about enough of Sutcliffe
2005-09-23 16:35:58
29.   Mattpat11
Holy shit. I just turned on the Sox Orioles feed on my XM, to hear some lady butchering the national anthem
2005-09-23 16:39:49
30.   BklynBomber
C'mon Tino, keep it going...
2005-09-23 16:40:23
31.   BklynBomber
That'll work...
2005-09-23 16:40:24
32.   randym77
Tino baby!!!
2005-09-23 16:41:30
33.   atc
Am I seeing things or did Posada almost get tagged out at second before Matsui crossed the plate?
2005-09-23 16:41:41
34.   watziznehm2
We do need to pen proof this. Another 20 should be enough I think ;)
2005-09-23 16:42:34
35.   BklynBomber
Didn't catch that, atc...
2005-09-23 16:43:15
36.   randym77
Posada was thinking of going to 3rd, but wisely thought better of it.
2005-09-23 16:44:49
37.   tom yf
Ah, on-base and slugging. Such a cute couple.
2005-09-23 16:46:06
38.   Rich
Why does Bernie play CF?
2005-09-23 16:50:29
39.   BklynBomber
OK, some solid D so far this innning...
2005-09-23 16:54:34
40.   Stormer Sports
Boston 1-0 End 1st.
2005-09-23 16:57:34
41.   BklynBomber
I've heard a worse team of announcers, but I just can't remember when...
2005-09-23 16:58:18
42.   BklynBomber
Jetes being Jetes... good hustle!
2005-09-23 16:58:41
43.   Stormer Sports
Jeter is Picasso on the base-paths.
2005-09-23 16:59:15
44.   atc
I hope Lilly's not hurt...we need him next week in Fenway
2005-09-23 17:00:34
45.   rilkefan
Yes, but Cano swung at the first pitch.

Yeah, yeah.

Note that Giambi's getting some nice rest today, and hopefully the pen too...

2005-09-23 17:01:12
46.   Stormer Sports
Jeter's baserunning won't make SportsCenter, but it's as good as an RBI to me! That my friends, is just one more reason he gets paid what he does.
2005-09-23 17:02:40
47.   Stormer Sports
Oh 2-0, I'm getting a hard on!
2005-09-23 17:02:45
48.   atc
O's tie it
2005-09-23 17:04:21
49.   Stormer Sports
Nice pitch, yikes!
2005-09-23 17:06:01
50.   Stormer Sports
Can they just shut up with the MVP chatter, I'm geting sick of it.
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2005-09-23 17:06:19
51.   BklynBomber
C'mon Yanks, BIG inning here... I don't want to be recalling this "lost opportunity" with a tie score in the 6th....
2005-09-23 17:06:21
52.   atc
2-1 o's
2005-09-23 17:07:09
53.   Stormer Sports
O's ahead!
2005-09-23 17:08:17
54.   Stormer Sports
What just happened?
2005-09-23 17:08:38
55.   BklynBomber
Did someone just say 'Picasso'?
2005-09-23 17:08:39
56.   rbj
Now that baserunning will make SportsCenter. Bizarre
2005-09-23 17:09:08
57.   Stormer Sports
Whis is that Kid #2?
2005-09-23 17:10:06
58.   BklynBomber
Horseshit inning, aside from Jeter...
2005-09-23 17:10:14
59.   Stormer Sports
FUCK!!!!!

That better no come back to haunt us!

2005-09-23 17:10:21
60.   rbj
^%$^%$@!#!!!!
Bases loaded, no outs, and you don't score?
(^*&%^%^&!@!@@!!!!
2005-09-23 17:10:51
61.   Stormer Sports
Did we just have bases loaded and no out, and not score? Did I dream that?
2005-09-23 17:16:11
62.   Rich
The GP I went to as a kid used to give us B-12 shots all the time.
2005-09-23 17:16:52
63.   Rich
Great catch.
2005-09-23 17:17:07
64.   randym77
Nice one, Hideki!
2005-09-23 17:17:07
65.   rbj
Gold glove for Matsui, maybe?
2005-09-23 17:17:16
66.   Rich
Only on the Yankees does the worst defensive OFer play CF.
2005-09-23 17:17:17
67.   atc
Did one of our outfielders just make an above average play?
2005-09-23 17:17:30
68.   BklynBomber
That was a little "too smooth" for Mats, but I'll take it ;-)
2005-09-23 17:17:37
69.   Rich
Matsui will never win a GG.
2005-09-23 17:20:02
70.   BklynBomber
OK, Yanks... we're gonna need 13 or 14 runs tonight, so let's keep the jackhammer going...
2005-09-23 17:21:39
71.   BklynBomber
You can only hope to contain Posada...
2005-09-23 17:30:55
72.   Stormer Sports
What is Chacon's contract status?
2005-09-23 17:31:42
73.   BklynBomber
FA, if memory serves...
2005-09-23 17:32:45
74.   Stormer Sports
If Cash lets him go . . . grrr. If I know Cashman, he will.
2005-09-23 17:33:05
75.   Rich
Chacon is arbitration eligible for one more year. He can't be a FA until after the 2006 season.
2005-09-23 17:33:48
76.   BklynBomber
Storm — Rockies re-signed him to a one-year deal prior to this season...
2005-09-23 17:34:15
77.   Stormer Sports
Rich,

Good, thank you. That is music to my ears.

2005-09-23 17:34:38
78.   Rich
btw, Cashman traded for him, and he doesn't have the power to make any unilateral decisions. He may well leave after the season anyway, which would hurt the franchise.
2005-09-23 17:35:46
79.   Zack
damn, I was posting to the wrong thread, no wonder it seemed so dead! Thank God it's Friday
2005-09-23 17:36:07
80.   Stormer Sports
Sign Chacon, Sign Wagner, Sign Cameron, and end it there. That will be enough for me.
2005-09-23 17:36:07
81.   Zack
O's up 3-1
2005-09-23 17:36:52
82.   Rich
Cameron isn't a FA.
2005-09-23 17:38:31
83.   Zack
I don't really want cameron, as a short term option, okay, but he isn't our answer...
2005-09-23 17:38:52
84.   BklynBomber
Sign BJ Ryan...
2005-09-23 17:40:00
85.   Rich
Cameron may never again play with the same reckless abandon after the injury. I don't want him either, and I would pursue Ryan, especially if Torre stays.
2005-09-23 17:41:06
86.   Zack
Amen Bklyn
2005-09-23 17:41:49
87.   Rich
All you can do is hit it hard.
2005-09-23 17:42:00
88.   BklynBomber
This feels like yet another game where everyone (Yanks, fans, announcers, etc.) goes to sleep except the opponents offense... we need to keep scoring!
2005-09-23 17:42:13
89.   Stormer Sports
Rich,

The Mets will deal him. I was looking around at CF'ers and he seems to make the most sense. Minnesota will want the farm, so to speak, to aquire Hunter, the price will be too high. We can have someone from within play right, and Sheff can DH full time. Try and grab Billy Wagner and convince him to set-up, talk about a solid lefty in the pen, Agree?

2005-09-23 17:44:36
90.   Stormer Sports
Rich,

I would persoanally like to start Melky from day one next year, but I doubt that will happen. Who then, Hunter too costly, I am curious?

BJ Ryan would be good, but give me Wagner or give me death!

2005-09-23 17:46:39
91.   mikeplugh
Anyone see the front page of ESPN.com today? Article about Big Papi and the DH as MVP. I haven't read it, but it seems like they're trying to work on a reason why the DH should get the same consideration.

Whatever. I'll take Chacon as my MVP at 8:45 on September 23rd.

2005-09-23 17:48:12
92.   mikeplugh
Melky's not ready. He needs at least one full year at AAA before I'd put him in the Big Show.

I'd like to see the Yanks go after a Tampa player. Maybe Rocco Baldelli.

2005-09-23 17:49:00
93.   Rich
Stormer,

I am opposed to trading top prospects for Cameron.

The reason that signing Beltran made sense is that there weren't going to be any reasonable alternatives this off season.

They could try to susidize Pavano's contract and trade him for Pierre, who I don't really like, or overpay Damon, which I'm against.

Jacque Jones may be a FA. They could sign him as a stopgap.

2005-09-23 17:49:34
94.   Zack
Of course ESPN wants Ortiz, besides the fact that they are based in Ct. and half their writers are Sox fans (more probably), Ortiz fits into everything that the front running fan wants: an easily recognizable, likeable, and big home run hitting goofball that seems to hit a lot of "clutch" hrs, even though Arod has more game winning rbi's. ESPN has never been amenable towards the Yanks
2005-09-23 17:49:36
95.   Rich
Baldelli is coming off a major injury and has never had a good OBP.
2005-09-23 17:50:27
96.   mikeplugh
I'm betting that Damon is roaming center for the Yanks next year. George and his yes men are in love with Damon and frankly he'd also serve the purpose of crippling the Sox.

Give me youth and give me speed!!

2005-09-23 17:50:28
97.   Rich
They could put Matsui in CF and acquire a corner OFer or two.
2005-09-23 17:50:40
98.   Stormer Sports
Mike,

Tampa? Give me Crawford! Give me Gathright, well preferably Crawford! Baldelli's all beat up.

2005-09-23 17:51:02
99.   JeremyM
Melky didn't even do much in AA I think after he was sent down, although I'm probably wrong. Hopefully the 5 games up here didn't set him back at all.

I hope Chacon can keep this up, we can get some more runs, and the bullpen can take a breather.

2005-09-23 17:51:04
100.   BklynBomber
E - Skippy!
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2005-09-23 17:51:05
101.   rbj
How about a Bernie/Bubba platoon while Melky's getting the finishing touches on in Columbus? They'd be cheaper and you don't give up anything. Just a thought.
2005-09-23 17:51:20
102.   Zack
I think (hope) what will happen is that the Yanks will go with another year of stop gap measures of maybe Bubba/Bernie/someone else, or move Matsui there for the year, and see how the kids progress.
On the other hand, with George's lackys in control, I doubt that will happen and they will go after Cameron
2005-09-23 17:51:34
103.   Zack
rbj, you beat me to it!
2005-09-23 17:51:37
104.   Rich
Damon will want a four year contract, which would be crazy. They would be paying him for the past instead of the future, which, unfortunately, they do way too often.
2005-09-23 17:51:57
105.   Stormer Sports
Rich,

Matsui in center, for a whole year? Yikes!

2005-09-23 17:52:31
106.   Rich
I don't want Bernie anywhere near CF, and Bubba doesn't hit enough to justify being the LF part of a platoon. Remember, most pitchers are RH.
2005-09-23 17:52:43
107.   randym77
Come on, Yanks. Don't go to sleep now. Four runs is not nearly enough.
2005-09-23 17:52:50
108.   Rich
It beats the Bernie/Bubba idea.
2005-09-23 17:53:37
109.   Stormer Sports
Rich. I don't see the Yanks signing Damon, I just have a gut feeling about it. I would prefer not to sign him, so it works out for me.
2005-09-23 17:54:27
110.   Rich
Stormer,

There are no great answers. They could try to trade for Erstad, but at what price?

2005-09-23 17:55:05
111.   Stormer Sports
Rich,

That's why I like Mike Cameron in a deal, he's cheap, he's a great defensive CF'er, and he will still play hard.

Posada! You cannot contain that man!

2005-09-23 17:55:20
112.   BklynBomber
Rich — Agreed. A Damon contract would be a goatfuck... we need to get younger, faster and cheaper.
2005-09-23 17:56:25
113.   Rich
Stormer,

Minaya will try to hold the Yankees up. I refuse to give the Mets top prospects.

2005-09-23 17:57:29
114.   Stormer Sports
Erstad? He can't play the OF anymore. Finley would be a pretty darn good stopgap though, and that may happen.

I would give my left testicle for G. Anderson, however. The most underrated player in the league over the past 8 years.

2005-09-23 17:58:29
115.   randym77
Matsui was a CF in Japan, wasn't he? I think he's actually been a CFer most of his career, if you count the Yomiuri Giants.

But he sure didn't do well when the Yanks tried him there.

2005-09-23 17:59:48
116.   Rich
Erstad can still play the OF, far better than Finley can.

I don't want Anderson. His OBP is too dependent on his AVG.

2005-09-23 18:00:19
117.   Rich
Yes, Mat played CF in Japan.
2005-09-23 18:00:28
118.   BklynBomber
No more 40 year old FAs! No matter what position. Pulleeeeeeze!
2005-09-23 18:00:31
119.   Stormer Sports
I don't care about cheaper. If the money is there, spend it. We do however, need to get faster, but Tampa aint parting with their studs who can be paid nothing and cannot leave for Free Agency for 4-5 more years. I like Finley for a year if nothing pans out. G. Anderson in right, Matsui in Center, platoon in left.
2005-09-23 18:01:01
120.   Stormer Sports
Anderson in Left I mean.
2005-09-23 18:01:08
121.   Zack
The reason for the platoon/Matsui situation is exactly what we are seeing: there isn't any other real option. Its not worth what the Twins and Mets will ask for Hunter and Cameron, neither of whom are all that great offensively (though I would take Hunter leaps and bounds over Cameron). Damn is the alst thing we need, and maybe if there is some grinder out there that might help the platoon perhaps...
2005-09-23 18:01:50
122.   mikeplugh
He was the #4 hitter and the CFer for the Yomiuri Giants. He wore #55 because that's the single season HR record in Japanj held by Oh Saddaharu. The Giants thought he'd break that record so they gave him the number.

He played on turf in the Tokyo Dome and the field is smaller. Plus, they don't play the game the same way in Japan. Over here they bunt and play small ball about 33% more than NL teams do in the States. Probably a lot less ground to cover and a lot less chances in the OF when he played for Kyojin.

2005-09-23 18:02:34
123.   Stormer Sports
Rich, Erstad has a bum leg. I live out there now, LA that is, aint no way in hell Erstad will get through a year in Center with that brace and injury, no way.
2005-09-23 18:02:43
124.   BklynBomber
Keep focused, Yanks! Do not let this team think they're still in this game!
2005-09-23 18:03:24
125.   mikeplugh
Give me Baldelli cause you can get him on the cheap. He's been all banged up, so you can steal him. He's a 4 tool player and he's still very young. Why not take a chance?
2005-09-23 18:03:53
126.   Rich
Again, that's why Beltran was a necessity.

They are going to overpay for someone, no matter what we think.

2005-09-23 18:04:06
127.   Stormer Sports
Pitch Count?
2005-09-23 18:04:29
128.   Zack
5-1 Indians, Hafner another HR, damn is he nasty
2005-09-23 18:04:45
129.   Rich
If you want Baldelli, on a team like the Yankees, you also need a Plan 1A, and the player for that plan isn't on the current roster.
2005-09-23 18:05:23
130.   Stormer Sports
Ortiz Strikes out in a BIG BIG BIG spot!
2005-09-23 18:05:38
131.   Rich
You could trade for Soriano and convert him into a CFer.
2005-09-23 18:05:40
132.   BklynBomber
Quietly, a great outing from Chacon so far...
2005-09-23 18:06:13
133.   Stormer Sports
God Dammit Rich, why no love for Melky?
2005-09-23 18:06:54
134.   BklynBomber
Hafner is a guy you want behind you in bar fight... I like that guy.
2005-09-23 18:08:00
135.   Stormer Sports
Soriano says he wont move, he is too valuable in contract negotiations as a second baseman he says, I don't want that attitude anywhere near the Yankees.

Not to mention, he will make far too many mistakes, count on it.

2005-09-23 18:08:39
136.   Rich
I would start Melky, but Torre gave him seven whole games to prove himself before he whined to Cashman. Why do you think that will change?
2005-09-23 18:08:56
137.   Zack
Wwell, of course, as we have discussed in the past, the most interesting solution is the Jeter to CF, but that won't happen.

Yeah, Hafner looks like he could be real mean if he wanted to

2005-09-23 18:09:12
138.   Stormer Sports
Fucking Tejada Error! Bases Juiced!
2005-09-23 18:10:41
139.   BklynBomber
Soriano has not progessed one iota since leaving the Yanks. Same lack of discipline...
2005-09-23 18:10:48
140.   Rich
Yup, Jeter is the way to go.
2005-09-23 18:10:52
141.   Zack
What the heck happened to Gibbons?
2005-09-23 18:10:56
142.   Stormer Sports
Rich,

I just hope it will, anyone remember a young kid named Andruw Jones? He better not keep Melky out, I trust Reggie's opinion a whole lot more than Joe's.

2005-09-23 18:11:24
143.   Stormer Sports
Fucking O's melting down.
2005-09-23 18:12:04
144.   randym77
Mike, thanks for the info. I was wondering how Japanese baseball was different.

Matsui plays smart (except for every once in a blue moon, when he does something really boneheaded). He's not that fast, and his arm's not that great, but he usually finds a way to get the job done. But CF may be too much real estate for him.

2005-09-23 18:12:35
145.   BklynBomber
Miggy is nothing but a B-12 piompin' SOB!
2005-09-23 18:12:36
146.   Zack
Anybody else notice Giambi's Mulet?
2005-09-23 18:12:57
147.   Stormer Sports
Sox go up 4-3. Jesus Christ! All errors and sloppy pitching.
2005-09-23 18:14:24
148.   Stormer Sports
Zack,

His hair is long in the front too, no mullet.

2005-09-23 18:15:08
149.   rbj
Kevin Brown, a mess whereever he's been.
Yup.
2005-09-23 18:16:58
150.   randym77
Good gravy. Jeter's been on base so often tonight he should be paying rent. But his only run is his own homer.
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2005-09-23 18:17:16
151.   BklynBomber
Is this game over?
2005-09-23 18:17:36
152.   Zack
Damn, when he wears a hat, it totally looks like a mullet, sigh...oh well
2005-09-23 18:18:36
153.   Zack
80 pitches for Chacon entering the inning...
2005-09-23 18:20:08
154.   mikeplugh
Japanese baseball is brutal to watch. There are some potential MLB caliber starting pitchers and regular players, and a whole range of minor leaguers.

From the time children are old enough to pick up a bat, they learn how to sac bunt. If you watch the National High School Baseball Tournament, called Koshien, you'll see the best example of it. It's the equivalent of the NCAA tourney.

You'll see a guy get a leadoff single, and the next guy will bunt him over in the 1st inning. Then, you'll even sometimes see the next guy bunt him to third. I kid you not.

Matsui was a rarity. He could hit for power from day one, and they intentionally walked him every at bat in the championship game at Koshien. The crowd, and every fan across the country watching on tv, booed. His team ended up losing, so the decision payed off, and Matsui cried.

From then on he's continued to mash. But.....he can't play everyday CF in Yankee Stadium.

2005-09-23 18:22:10
155.   rbj
Mikeplugh, that sounds like deadball era baseball. Play for one run.
2005-09-23 18:26:53
156.   Zack
Chacon has to pitch as long as he can, no? 99 pitches, at least one more inning, and pray for two
2005-09-23 18:27:03
157.   mikeplugh
It speaks to the Japanese sensibilities. Sacrifice yourself for the better of the group. It's a national way of life.

It works well when you consider the economy, health care, and the environment, but it makes for boring-ass baseball.

2005-09-23 18:27:35
158.   mikeplugh
We need Chacon to go a full 8 and then turn it over to Small for the 9th.
2005-09-23 18:28:09
159.   randym77
Hmm. I guess Japanese players must all be great bunters, then.

Odd that he was such a power hitter in Japan. He's good, but not really Godzilla-like here.

I read once that the reason he became a lefty was because the other kids wouldn't play with him, even boys a lot older than he was. He was too good. So he hit left-handed, to to make it more fair. That's why he bats left but throws right.

2005-09-23 18:30:38
160.   Zack
Mo warming up...looks like Torre will bring him in yet again
2005-09-23 18:31:50
161.   randym77
Come on, Sheff! Bring A-Rod home. Spare Mo a night's work.
2005-09-23 18:32:16
162.   Stormer Sports
randym

Sounds like a tale, but if it's true, it is one hell of a story.

2005-09-23 18:33:49
163.   Rich
Rest a game, Sheff, will ya?
2005-09-23 18:34:01
164.   Stormer Sports
How un-Sheff like.
2005-09-23 18:34:45
165.   Stormer Sports
No rest for the Sheff, the Yanks gotta' eat.
2005-09-23 18:35:22
166.   Stormer Sports
No Chef hats this year either, that's odd.
2005-09-23 18:35:38
167.   BklynBomber
Mats is due for a long ball...
2005-09-23 18:40:56
168.   BklynBomber
Sutcliffe is a douche...
2005-09-23 18:42:30
169.   BklynBomber
Posada can do no wrong these days.
2005-09-23 18:42:54
170.   randym77
Posada is golden tonight. Even his bad hits work out.
2005-09-23 18:42:57
171.   rbj
Nice time for an error.
2005-09-23 18:45:23
172.   Stormer Sports
Bernie looks lost tonight.
2005-09-23 18:45:59
173.   atc
Has Chacon pitched anywhere besides Colorado? If not, can Sutcliffe please stop calling him a journeyman?
2005-09-23 18:48:33
174.   Stormer Sports
atc.

No, Chacon is a lifelong Rocky, not even eligible for Free Agency yet. Sutcliffe is a journeyman himself, however.

2005-09-23 18:48:40
175.   mikeplugh
The story about Matsui hitting lefty so he could play on the playground is true. He was a better power hitter over here because they don't throw nasty breaking stuff as much and the stadiums are slightly smaller. Plus, he played his home games in a dome.

Chacon has only played in Colorado....including high school ball. Sutcliffe's an idiot.

2005-09-23 18:49:06
176.   Zack
I'll say this, baseball announcers are leaps and bounds better than the football idiots they claim are "announcers." As aggravatingly pointless and self-rightious as former players like Sutfliffe are, man would I listen to them any day over say, the ESPN sunday night football guys (don't know who it is besides Theisman, shudder)
2005-09-23 18:50:14
177.   Stormer Sports
Only TV could make any area around the Stadium look beautiful.

I want a shot of the pools of piss under the Macombs Bridge in Parking Lot 6.

2005-09-23 18:50:45
178.   Stormer Sports
That was Jeter's play, no?
2005-09-23 18:51:20
179.   BklynBomber
M veeeeeeee P! No question!
2005-09-23 18:51:32
180.   Rich
Bernie would have caught that.
2005-09-23 18:51:33
181.   Stormer Sports
"Improved"

He is the best in the AL!

2005-09-23 18:53:11
182.   Zack
Damn 2 run Manny HR
2005-09-23 18:53:55
183.   Stormer Sports
I take it Manny went deep? Game over in Baltimore, for all intents and purposes.
2005-09-23 18:54:01
184.   Zack
Okay, so Chancon comes out to start the 9th, walks a guy or gives up a single, Torre promptly panics and brings in Mo...
2005-09-23 18:54:06
185.   atc
That's 16 straight scoreless innings for Chacon....what a job!
2005-09-23 18:55:00
186.   Stormer Sports
Well, the Yanks just have to win tomorrow as well, simple as that.
2005-09-23 18:56:17
187.   mikeplugh
A-Rod is MVP. I have said for weeks that there is an argument for Ortiz, but let's face it. A-Rod's glove has helped us as much as his bat over the last 10-15 games. He will win his first Gold Glove at 3B and hit .320 with 45-50 HRs and 130 or so RBI. Ortiz will sit on his fat ass between innings and wait to crush balls into the upper deck.

Let's see Flubber do it while playing Gold Glove hot corner.

2005-09-23 18:56:56
188.   Rich
I like that we got into their pen early and often.
2005-09-23 18:57:33
189.   BklynBomber
Zack — the pressure is on the Sawks now, especially their pen. The Birds taxed ours, hopefully they'll do the same tonight. We're not exactly out of the woods tonight, either. We keep winning, no worries ;-)
2005-09-23 18:57:45
190.   Stormer Sports
Sut, Manny looks at every one of his Home Runs you stupid fuck!
2005-09-23 18:58:05
191.   Stormer Sports
Like that one.
2005-09-23 19:00:55
192.   Stormer Sports
That was the smartest thig Sut said all night.
2005-09-23 19:02:02
193.   rilkefan
JFTR, my dictionary thinks that "journey" comes from "jour" for "daily" not from "traveler", and means:

1. One who has fully served an apprenticeship in a trade or craft and is a qualified worker in another's employ.
2. An experienced and competent but undistinguished worker.

The second meaning is the one I'm familiar with.

2005-09-23 19:03:03
194.   randym77
The Sox pen is even worse than ours.

The only thing I worry about are their young guns, Hansen and Papelbon. They could be tough, if only because they're new.

2005-09-23 19:04:08
195.   mikeplugh
Good point rilkefan, but that's not the American sports definition of the term. Sutcliffe is using the word in a sports context, and it means scrub who hasn't done spit and has moved between a half dozen teams over the course of a short time.
2005-09-23 19:04:47
196.   Zack
Why, Why Proctor? NOOOOOOO!
2005-09-23 19:05:00
197.   Rich
Strange move, by Torre.

WTG, Bubba.

2005-09-23 19:05:03
198.   Zack
Nice Bubba!!
2005-09-23 19:05:17
199.   randym77
Holy crap!

Lawton or Sierra would not have made that.

2005-09-23 19:06:09
200.   Rich
As the Steve Goldman article I linked on another thread argued, we have young guns too. They should be brought up.
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2005-09-23 19:07:17
201.   Zack
Hey, here's a totally off-topic thought. If the Yanks don't make the playoffs (God forbid), Sunday might be Bernie's last game at the Stadium as a Yank. Here's hoping the fans let him know how much we have loved and appreciated him...
2005-09-23 19:07:22
202.   BklynBomber
The more one listens to Sut, it's obvious how little this mook prepares for a game...
2005-09-23 19:08:37
203.   randym77
If there's any more like Wang, bring 'em on. If they're more like Sean Henn, I'll take my chances with Proctor and Leiter.
2005-09-23 19:09:44
204.   randym77
You gotta be kidding me. Mo's coming in???
2005-09-23 19:09:54
205.   BklynBomber
That's it. I'm switching over to Sterling...
2005-09-23 19:10:05
206.   Zack
Please don't get Mo up yet Joe
2005-09-23 19:10:59
207.   Rich
When you are throwing out Embree and F-Rod and Leiter, it doesn't hurt to see what you have in Smith, or Julianel, or Schmidt.
2005-09-23 19:11:02
208.   Zack
See Joe, why did you bring in Proctor??
2005-09-23 19:11:27
209.   Zack
Oh, save situation, time to automatically bring in Mo
2005-09-23 19:11:43
210.   rilkefan
mikeplugh: fair enough re "journeyman". I only speak standard, poetic, and scientific English, not sports or the various other kinds.

Apropos, I like "fielder's indifference".

2005-09-23 19:11:48
211.   Rich
Hey Proctor, show us you have some balls.
2005-09-23 19:12:01
212.   Zack
Thank f'ing God
2005-09-23 19:12:30
213.   randym77
Hallelujah!
2005-09-23 19:14:32
214.   BklynBomber
Arroyo out, Meyers in. 1 on, 0 out in the 8th...
2005-09-23 19:14:47
215.   mikeplugh
Great. Nice effort. After an inexcusable 4 pitch walk he gets it done.

Mo never threw in earnest in the pen, so no harm no foul.

Chacon is my hero.

2005-09-23 19:18:08
216.   Max
Fantastic job by Chacon.

Sad to see Bernie calcifying before our very eyes, though. I hope he can give the YS crowd one more glimpse of greatness before the weekend is over.

2005-09-23 19:19:25
217.   Nick from Washington Heights
scoreboard watching time
2005-09-23 19:20:48
218.   BklynBomber
Let's go Boids! Down 6-3, 1 on, 1 out, bottom 8.
2005-09-23 19:21:26
219.   Stormer Sports
Bernie will do exactly that, but in the playoffs my friend.
2005-09-23 19:23:21
220.   BklynBomber
Yeah, Bernie is not done yet... He did look like hell tonight, but tomorrow he'll be locked in. If not, the next night. Bank on it.
2005-09-23 19:24:50
221.   BklynBomber
Javy Lopez whiffs, 2 down...
2005-09-23 19:27:19
222.   BklynBomber
F8, top o' the 9th...
2005-09-23 19:37:38
223.   Stormer Sports
The O's have no fight, game over.
2005-09-23 19:38:06
224.   BklynBomber
Looks like it, huh?
2005-09-23 19:40:40
225.   BklynBomber
Gomez, Gil and Castro due up in bottom 9. Needless to day, they need to get something started...
2005-09-23 19:41:48
226.   BklynBomber
Timlin in, maybe they can get inside his head with something...
2005-09-23 19:45:26
227.   marc
Still a big game that's close. I think we desperately need Cleveland to lose something so we have an alternative if the Sox beat us. It's 6-5 Cleveland in the 8th. KC needs a rally
2005-09-23 19:46:54
228.   atc
Wright scares the hell out of me tomorrow
2005-09-23 19:49:12
229.   BklynBomber
2 outs, Castro singles... hey, who knows ;-)
2005-09-23 19:51:37
230.   BklynBomber
Boids fall.. let's go KC.
2005-09-23 19:53:12
231.   BklynBomber
Power outage in KC... an omen for The Tribe?
2005-09-23 19:54:11
232.   marc
Oh Christ, there's a partial blackout at the KC game. They're thinking the game might end up getting suspended.
2005-09-23 19:58:16
233.   marc
the KC announcers wonder if they can see enough to play if they can't get it fixed. But they're leaning to the game probably being suspended. It's just one side of the park that has the lights out. What would happen? Would they have to finish the game on another day? I thought tht's the rule.
2005-09-23 20:02:55
234.   marc
KC's announcers boring enough Now I got to listen to them talking about how they don't know about the power grid. Wait, a couple of lights came on but they need another 30 or so. There's like a guy up there screwing stuff in. They think they might get enough on in 15 minutes or so. Someone's screwing the lights in or something one by one. Maybe the Royals don't have enough money to pay their electric bill
2005-09-23 20:03:38
235.   marc
Lights back on. Now they got to find the players.
2005-09-23 20:07:31
236.   Schteeve
Couple o' things, Chacon is gold. Not just the results, I love the way he goes about his business on the hill. He's money. I look forward to post season starts from this guy.

Also, people don't often think of the Yankees as scrappy and lovable, but you have to assign those adjectives to Crosby. I really get the sense he's trying to maximize his talent no matter how limited, to help the team.

And that baserunning artistry from Jeter is the kind of thing that will continue to perpetuate the legend of Derek Jeter. I have no idea how he did on his SATs but the guy has all kinds of baseball smarts, don't he?

2005-09-23 20:08:25
237.   BklynBomber
HR KC! Game tied @ 6!
2005-09-23 20:08:44
238.   marc
Home Run! KC ties the game at 6
2005-09-23 20:09:52
239.   marc
they pulled the old electical problem trick to mess up the pitcher.
2005-09-23 20:13:57
240.   BklynBomber
Works everytime, there oughta be a rule! ;-)

But we need The Tribe to win to keep Baastin 1.5 back in the Wild Card — which we are no longer concerned about, right ???

2005-09-23 20:14:02
241.   marc
inning over. To the 9th. Lately Cleveland's been like Boston in late game heroics. We'll see.
2005-09-23 20:16:16
242.   marc
I think before we worry about keeping Boston out we have to worry about getting in. In two nights Boston could be sailing ahead of us again. We need the WC option IMO much more than any stuff about who we may keep out
2005-09-23 20:25:48
243.   marc
this is too annoying to listen to these other games. In boston i had to listen to Tejada make a stupid error against Boston because his mind is probably occuped with Raphy. Now KC makes 2 incredibly stupid error to let Cleveland take the lead. This is too aggravating
2005-09-23 20:26:05
244.   BklynBomber
No doubt about the WC option, that was semi sarcastic... anything can and probably will happen over the next 9 games. If we keep rolling, all is well. Regardless, every Tribe win from here on out keeps double pressure on Boston, knowing they have 3 left with us.
2005-09-23 20:33:17
245.   marc
Yieah, I caught the simi-sarcasm the second time when I got to look up at your post a bit longer. KC sucks so bad. I'd hate to have to depend on them for help. I mean 2 outs, nobody on and two ultra-routine little grounders and they're playing Keystone cops out there. Bobling and unforced bad throws. Well, Iguess that's whey we all knew Cleveland had a ridiculously easy schedule with their games against KC.
2005-09-23 20:42:23
246.   marc
Maybe by some miracle KC can score 2 off Wickman in the bottom of the 9th to win. I guess I'm posting to myself but at least it's keeeping me from falling asleep and banging my head into the keyboard listening to this droning monotone completely bored and boring KC announcer.
2005-09-23 20:44:14
247.   Max
>>Iguess that's whey we all knew Cleveland had a ridiculously easy schedule with their games against KC. <<

I'm not sure our games against Baltimore qualify as that much more difficult, especially with Roberts out, and the whole Palmeiro scandal...the team has played really poorly the last couple of months.

I'm still nervous about what seems to be the necessity of running the table against them, given the stakes...it's hard to beat any team 8 in a row.

KC has actually been playing the Indians pretty tough, but any question of why they've lost 100 games gets quickly answered by a ninth inning like tonight (and the one they had against us when they blew a 4 run 9th inning lead).

2005-09-23 20:47:02
248.   marc
thankfully this miserable game is over. Cleveland, man are they hot
2005-09-23 20:53:07
249.   marc
If Cleveland stays this hot than we have an old fashioned pre-WC, pre divisions, Pennant like race.

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