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Kansas City Royals Redux: Reunited And It Feels So Good Edition
2008-06-06 12:37
by Cliff Corcoran
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On the morning of May 19, the Royals were a game under .500 and just two games out of first place in the American League Central division. That night they were no-hit by Jon Lester at Fenway Park, a humiliating loss that kicked off a 12-game losing streak. That streak was snapped last Saturday when tonight's starter, Kyle Davies, in his first major league start of the year, beat C.C. Sabathia in Kansas City. The Royals took two of three from the Indians in that series, but were then swept by the White Sox. Now 10.5 games back and in last place in the Central, the Royals arrive in the Bronx 14 games under .500 with the second worst record in the American League and the third-worst record in baseball.

On the season, the Royals have scored the fewest runs per game in the major leagues. Their pitching has been solid in their home park, but on the road, where the Royals still have an active 11-game losing streak dating back to Lester's no-hitter, they've allowed 5.22 runs per game.

The Royals best hitter to this point in the season has been catcher Miguel Olivo (.286/.314/.541), who started the season as John Buck's backup and has just five walks in 140 plate appearances. Zack Greinke, who will start on Sunday against Joba Chamberlain, is the only established Royals starter with an ERA at or above league average. The back end of the bullpen--closer Joakim Soria, lefty Ron Mahay, former Yankee farmhand Ramon Ramirez, and injured set-up man Leo Nuñez--has been strong, but they've been of little value with the Royals winning just two of their last 17 games.

Tonight, Kyle Davies makes his second start of the year coming off his five-inning win against Sabathia (who, incidentally, pitched an eight-inning complete game, but lost 4-2). Davies was dreadful last year after coming over from the Braves for Octavio Dotel, and is best remembered by Yankee fans for having surrendered Alex Rodriguez's 500th home run (a clip I'm sure YES will show about that many times tonight). He's only 24 and has a career 2.86 ERA in the minor leagues, but most of that success came below triple-A and prior to 2005. This year, Davies put up a 2.06 ERA in ten triple-A starts, but had a limp 1.85 K/BB ratio and only struck out two men against three walks in his last start.

He'll face Darrell Rasner, who had his first poor outing of the year (in the majors or minors) last time out in Minnesota. Even still, Rasner struck out five men against two walks in 5 1/3 innings and kept his team in the game, falling two outs and one run shy of a fifth-straight quality start.

Rasner will throw to Jose Molina tonight, which is odd, not because the Yankees are hesitant to start Jorge Posada on back-to-back days just yet, but because Rasner's been pitching to Chad Moeller nearly all season (again both in the majors and minors). The rest of the Yankee regulars surround Molina in the order, including yesterday's hero, Jason Giambi, who's back at first base, and Posada is expected to start the next two days.

In bullpen news, LaTroy Hawkins' three-game suspension was upheld. He'll serve it tonight, tomorrow, and Sunday. Also, Chris Britton pulled an oblique warming up yesterday and has been placed on the DL. Dan Giese, who was just sent down to make room for Posada, thus returns shy of the ten-day minimum and will likely shadow Joba's start on Sunday after all. I leave it to you to decide exactly how fishy that makes Britton's injury appear.

Finally, per reader Travis08 in the previous thread about Yankee killers, the Yanks should beware Kansas City first baseman Ross Gload, a career .288/.327/.419 hitter who has hit .446/.475/.696 in 61 career plate appearances against the Yankees. It will be interesting to see if that small-sample success will be enough for Trey Hillman to play Gload against the left-handed Pettitte tomorrow, as Hillman's had Gload and John Buck in a complex platoon of late with Buck catching, Olivo DHing, DH Jose Guillen returning to right field, and right fielder Mark Teahen shifting to first against lefties (Gload is 0 for 3 career against Pettitte).

Kansas City Royals

2008 Record: 23-37 (.383)
2008 Pythagorean Record: 22.5-36.5 (.376)

Manager: Trey Hillman
General Manager: Dayton Moore

Home Ballpark (multi-year Park Factors): Kauffman Stadium (103/104)

Who's Replacing Whom:

David DeJesus (ankle) replaces Billy Butler (minors) in the lineup
Mike Aviles (minors) replaces Butler on the roster
Luke Hochevar (minors) replaces John Bale (DL)
Kyle Davies (minors) replaces Brett Tomko in the rotation
Tomko replaces Hideo Nomo in the bullpen
Joel Peralta (minors) replaces Leo Nuñez (DL)

25-man Roster:

1B - Ross Gload (L)
2B - Mark Grudzielanek (R)
SS - Tony Peña Jr. (R)
3B - Alex Gordon (L)
C - Miguel Oliva (R)
RF - Mark Teahen (L)
CF - Joey Gathright (L)
LF - David DeJesus (L)
DH - Jose Guillen (R)


R - Esteban German (IF)
S - Alberto Callaspo (IF)
R - Mike Aviles (IF)
R - John Buck (C)


R - Brian Bannister
R - Zack Greinke
R - Luke Hochevar
R - Gil Meche
R - Kyle Davies


R - Joakim Soria
L - Ron Mahay
R - Ramon Ramirez
R - Yasuhiko Yabuta
L - Jimmy Gobble
R - Joel Peralta
R - Brett Tomko

15-day DL: R - Leo Nuñez, L - John Bale
60-day DL: R - Luke Hudson


L - David DeJesus (L)
R - Mark Grudzielanek (2B)
L - Alex Gordon (3B)
R - Jose Guillen (RF)
R - Miguel Olivo (C)
L - Mark Teahen (LF)
L - Ross Gload (1B)
L - Joey Gathright (CF)
R - Tony Peña Jr. (SS)

Comments (196)
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2008-06-06 14:44:59
1.   horace-clarke-era
It needs to be more widely known:

Yasuhiko Yabuta's nickname among the Royals is ... Shake.

Who says the glory days of the great nicknames are gone?

2008-06-06 15:04:29
2.   Cliff Corcoran
2 If they were really clever they'd have nicknamed him "Sheik," which, in addition to the Zappa reference, is just a cooler nickname to start with.
2008-06-06 15:12:01
3.   standuptriple
1 Maybe they have Frylock, Meatwad and Carl too? Mooninites?
2008-06-06 15:17:59
4.   ms october
thanks for another great series into write-up cliff.

i thought it odd too that rasner was going to work with molina over moeller, but it could just be that moeller is on his way out soon and they want to get rasner used to molina - i wouldn't be surprised if for awhile there are assigned pitcher with catchers while they are bringing jorge back along.

does either molina or moeller have any trade value rather than just dfaing moeller again?

the bullpen is going to be shot even more without some major moving of the pieces.

2008-06-06 15:18:12
5.   OldYanksFan
Is Britton really injured or are the Yanks just saving bus fare? And a way to get Giese back fast? This seems premeditated. Britton must have the record for being jerked around by the Yankees.

If the Yankees wanted to trade Britton, they would at least showcase him a bit in low leverage situations. I simply don't understand why they take up a roster spot with him when it seems they have no intention of letting him pitch.

My boy Jason with a .940 OPS, 4th in the AL, just ahead of Manny.
Gotta luv the big lug.

2008-06-06 15:23:12
6.   cult of basebaal
2 that would, of course, assume that someone on that team could pick frank zappa out of a lineup
2008-06-06 15:27:07
7.   Cliff Corcoran
6 Brian Bannister could, if no one else.
2008-06-06 15:43:22
8.   horace-clarke-era
2 Cliff, Cliff, you are a demanding son of a gun! These are the ROYALS. Shake Ya Boota is way up there with the great modern nicknames.

Actually, I have a friend who periodically laments the loss of the great nicknames, going back to Frankie Frisch the Fordham Flash (say it fast! 'cause he was!)

2008-06-06 15:53:32
9.   cult of basebaal
8 i blame chris berman for one half of that, the impending doom of our coming idiocracy for the other
2008-06-06 16:07:55
10.   Zack
Once again the idiocy of making proclamations about a team during the first month of the season shows up. What happened to all of those ESPN etc articles about how its a new culture/regime/whatever in KC and things are looking up and they are ready to contend? Yeah...
2008-06-06 16:08:28
11.   mehmattski
Whew, no Ross Gload, Yankee Killer™!
2008-06-06 16:11:19
12.   Zack
On another note, I really have no idea how MLB goes about figuring out its suspensions. Hawkins gets three games for missing someone, Shields gets 6 for defending himself, Lester gets 5 games for hitting 2 people after the brawl, and Coco gets 7 for starting everything? I mean, shouldn't someone involved in a brawl get a lot more than someone missing a player? 5 games for a starter are far less significant than 3 for a reliever I feel like...
2008-06-06 16:13:30
13.   ms october
12 missing someone is far more dangerous than hitting someone :} (either with the ball, a roundhouse, a boxer's jab, or a cat-fight slap - we saw it all last night)
2008-06-06 16:16:38
14.   mehmattski
I see that Pitch f/x has the night off today.

Rasner's offspeed pitch has been pretty sweet so far. Leiter calls it a cutter, at 83 mph.

2008-06-06 16:17:30
15.   monkeypants
12 However, intent should count for something, no? In an exaggerated example, attempted murder (you try to kill someone but "miss") surely is worse than punching someone (trying to hit them and succeeding). I'm not sure how that all bears on the examples you gave...I'm just playing devil's advocate.
2008-06-06 16:20:13
16.   Yankees Brasil
Let's go Yankees!
2008-06-06 16:21:57
17.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
King Felix vs BoSox on tv here this morning..apprently Manny took offense to Youkilis smashing bats after a bad at bat, "being above the team". Manny said that????

Playing the Royals...yawn...surely a sweep is inevitable?

2008-06-06 16:24:15
18.   mehmattski
17 Hopefully not a sweep in the wrong direction.
2008-06-06 16:27:24
19.   mehmattski
A hit and run! Nice!

Knock em in, A-Rod!

2008-06-06 16:27:25
20.   mehmattski
A hit and run! Nice!

Knock em in, A-Rod!

2008-06-06 16:28:52
21.   cult of basebaal
ooooh, this is a good feeling start ... c'mon alex, keep it going
2008-06-06 16:30:18
22.   mehmattski
From MLB Trade Rumors:

The Dallas Morning News is reporting that the Rangers have designated Sidney Ponson for assignment for "disrespectful and adverse reactions to situations unbecoming of teammates."

Stay away, Cashman.

2008-06-06 16:32:27
23.   Yankees Brasil
Damn you A-Rod. Another inning, another men left in scoring position. That's 0 for 1 with RISP so far. Let's see how bad we'll be tonight.
2008-06-06 16:32:43
24.   cult of basebaal
22 he drank somebody's milkshake?
2008-06-06 16:33:19
25.   Zack
15 Hmm, but punching someone is way worse than possibly purposefully throwing at someone, no? I mean, attempted assault isn't as bad as actual assault. I do believe intent should count, I guess, but how can you really judge that? And the point still stands that they need to consider reliever vs. starter, right?
2008-06-06 16:37:22
26.   Eirias
24 Was a straw involved?
2008-06-06 16:37:31
27.   mehmattski
Nice play by A-Rod there to start the DP.
2008-06-06 16:38:24
28.   Yankees Brasil
A-Rod kinda makes up for his GIDP by starting a nice DP.
2008-06-06 16:38:51
29.   ny2ca2dc
I still think Maddon is the worst, he baited Coco, and has been whipping that team up.

Man, Damon's 'stash looks dirty. 'bino's is looking legit now.

Raz looking real nice, I don't recall his curve being this good.

2008-06-06 16:40:39
30.   cult of basebaal
27 yeah, evidently the last one ...
2008-06-06 16:49:02
31.   mehmattski
"They have the same name... they play the same position... and tomorrow they share the same playing field"

Wow. YES is really reaching for promos.

2008-06-06 16:50:36
32.   ny2ca2dc
Man it's ugly when the 7-8-9 is Cano, Molina, Melky.
2008-06-06 16:51:22
33.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
31 who?
2008-06-06 16:51:58
34.   mehmattski
Aww, Molina robbed Rasner of a strikeout there... is a foul bunt with two strikes a dead ball?
2008-06-06 16:54:19
35.   nick
the Royals
a) have great faith in this rookie starter
b) think it's the mid-1960s
c) just plain suck
2008-06-06 16:59:15
36.   OldYanksFan
King Tut Hernandez and the Ancient Mariners lead Bartolo Colon Cleanser and the Ready Red Sox 3-0 after 2.5 interesting innings.
2008-06-06 17:02:44
37.   OldYanksFan
However, The King is off his game, left the bases loaded last inning and has 2 men on, 1 out in the 3rd.

As Giambi started our PS run yesterday, I feel following the Sox has new meaning.

2 out, 1st and 3rd.

2008-06-06 17:03:33
38.   mehmattski
34 Seriously, does anyone know the answer to that? Does a foul bunt with two strikes result in an immediate strikeout and a dead ball? Or is the ball live and any runners may advance?
2008-06-06 17:04:15
39.   Yankees Brasil
Kyle Davies is exactly the kind of pitcher that gives the Yankees trouble. A mediocre pitcher that struggles against every other team but looks like Nolan Ryan against the Yankees.
2008-06-06 17:04:18
40.   nick
38 Sterling said it's a K, dead ball.
2008-06-06 17:06:28
41.   mehmattski
40 Hmm, if true then Molina did rob Rasner of a strikeout. I can't find any mention of the situation in the official rulebook.
2008-06-06 17:15:10
42.   Yankees Brasil
Nice escape by Rasner!
2008-06-06 17:15:12
43.   nick
the Ras!
2008-06-06 17:15:24
44.   OldYanksFan
Ichiro with a clutch 2 out single. Seattle up 5-0 after 3.5
2008-06-06 17:15:39
45.   ny2ca2dc
Rasner is really pitching the way Ian Kennedy was supposed to. Now I remember why I liked IPK last year.
2008-06-06 17:18:59
46.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
GameDay is a steaming pile of buffalo poopoo, has been "loading" now for 20mins...what's the score and game summary? seems kindof quiet on the Banter today, nice summers evening in NYC?
2008-06-06 17:19:43
47.   ms october
45 good call.
cone says this ump has a hitter's strike zone - rasner got a few boderline pitches called balls early and by and large adjusted to it. he ceratinly is not bothered by having runners on in scoring position.
2008-06-06 17:22:39
48.   ny2ca2dc
46 zip - zip. whole lotta nothing. Yanks had 1st & 3rd 1 out in the first, but ARod GIDP'd.
2008-06-06 17:23:09
49.   ms october
46 score 0-0 botttom of 4th
kc with 4 hits; yanks with 3 hits
rasner has allowed a few men to get into scoring position and pitched out of it nicely.
yanks offense obviously hasn't done much to this point - at least 1 and maybe 2 gidp
2008-06-06 17:23:21
50.   mehmattski
46 No score, bottom of the fourth. A-Rod on first with two outs.

Rasner escaped from a Jam in the top of the inning, inducing an infield grounder and a strikeout. He's had some filthy off-speed stuff today, a cutter and a curveball.

A-Rod grounded into a double play in the first with Jeter on third (single) and Abreu on first (single, Jeter hit-and-run). Cano ended the second with a DP as well.

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2008-06-06 17:26:08
51.   ny2ca2dc
49 50 Jinx! Look how helpful the banterites are
2008-06-06 17:26:54
52.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
thanks for the updates!
Sox-Ms not too exciting, Colon not really hit too hard, some bad fielding and good Ichiro hitting has done him in.
2008-06-06 17:27:23
53.   ny2ca2dc
50 Cano actually legged out a fielders choice. But Molina then grounded to short to end the inning.
2008-06-06 17:28:43
54.   Yankees Brasil
3 hits in 4 innings against Kyle freaking Davies is pretty bad. He has a 6+ career ERA in over 50 starts. He's the definition of horrible.

When you think the Yankees are coming out of their slump, they go right back to sucking.

2008-06-06 17:28:56
55.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
53 Molina didn't drive him in? 'm shocked. Shocked!
2008-06-06 17:29:18
56.   ny2ca2dc
Liner to LF gap - funny thing, Damon cut the ball off, then flipped the ball to Melky to throw in. I guess Damon isn't shy about his lame arm. But held to a double.
2008-06-06 17:30:28
57.   ny2ca2dc
54 When you think the bantering is getting positive and friendly, someone goes right back to tiresome whining.
2008-06-06 17:32:27
58.   ny2ca2dc
Girardi does seem to be really good at calling pitch outs. Maybe he calls a few too many, but he's good.
2008-06-06 17:32:39
59.   mehmattski
And the successful pitchout saves a run... man, Damon was pretty lost in left field there. Death Valley, indeed.
2008-06-06 17:32:50
60.   Yankees Brasil
57 Would you want Kyle Davies to be one of the Yankees' starters? Didn't think so. He's bad, they should be crushing him. Instead, the Yankees are being dominated by him.
2008-06-06 17:33:16
61.   ms october
56 that's why i still find the time manny cut-off damon's throw so funny

alright settle down rasner.

2008-06-06 17:34:04
62.   OldYanksFan
That throw by Molina looks big now.
2008-06-06 17:35:29
63.   OldYanksFan
57 I agree. Brasil better be careful or Manny may bitchslap him... (get it?)
2008-06-06 17:38:44
64.   ms october
good hit robbie.

that would have been a hell of a catch - thankfully he's not a couple of inches taller

2008-06-06 17:39:51
65.   ny2ca2dc
Man, I really dig Raz. When all our pitchers seem to always try to do too much and get frazzled with runners on and when they give up runs, Raz seems to just kind of know his place. He seems to realize he's not a ace, and just goes up and pitches. The kids could really learn a lot from him.

Cano was really on that one. Presumably that was a mistake, because the way Robinson's been going, why would you ever pitch him not-inside.

2008-06-06 17:39:57
66.   nick
Earl Weaver tells Girardi where to stick that sacrifice bunt....OK, maybe not the worst time to do it, but still, argh!
2008-06-06 17:40:07
67.   OldYanksFan
Our best bunter is Molina. A little sad that...
2008-06-06 17:40:27
68.   Yankees Brasil
I'm afraid to say it, but Robbie might be coming out of it.
2008-06-06 17:41:41
69.   OldYanksFan
No Melk delivery tonight...
2008-06-06 17:42:29
70.   ny2ca2dc
67 Well, a bad hitter, which Molina is, ought to be able to get a bunt down. Molina does seem to be pretty damn good at it, thankfully. Speaking of bunts, Jeter hasn't been bunting much this year, don't ya think? (good)
2008-06-06 17:47:39
71.   cult of basebaal
grrr, raz seems to be walking a tightrope tonite
2008-06-06 17:49:53
72.   Yankees Brasil
Game getting away quickly.
2008-06-06 17:50:06
73.   nick
Much as I like the Ras, he's a #4-#5, and you want a quick hook after 80 pitches...
2008-06-06 17:50:48
74.   Yankees Brasil
73 Who's avaiable out of the 'pen?
2008-06-06 17:52:14
75.   cult of basebaal
sure seems like rasner would be doing better if he got the benefit of a veterans strike zone
2008-06-06 17:53:45
76.   ny2ca2dc
Hell of a play. Cano might suck at the plate this year, but he still can field
2008-06-06 17:54:18
77.   ny2ca2dc
72 Yep, this game really got away.
2008-06-06 17:55:03
78.   Yankees Brasil
It's a shame we have no offense on a night our starting pitcher goes 6 innings only giving up 2 runs.
2008-06-06 17:55:06
79.   cult of basebaal
well, 6ips 2runs, another solid start for rasner ... of course our shitty offense is going to let this one slip away ... strewth
2008-06-06 17:56:33
80.   cult of basebaal
jesus christ, great at-bat there, cap'n
2008-06-06 17:56:50
81.   nick
74 whose throw day is it? Ohlendorf, Mo...
2008-06-06 17:57:00
82.   OldYanksFan
73 Why, because he just posted BETTER then a quality start? Normally, we would be overjoyed with 2 runs in 6 innings. We shouldn't confuse our poor offense with our pitching.
2008-06-06 17:57:55
83.   Mattpat11
79 I don't think he pitched nearly that well. He was pretty lucky.
2008-06-06 17:59:14
84.   Mattpat11
Yankees respond to the big win by getting shut down bu Kyle fucking Davies.
2008-06-06 18:01:22
85.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
wow..Boston not nearly as scary without Manny and Papi ni the lineup..of course, wish we had a pitcher as good as King Felix...when he's on he's really a joy to watch.
2008-06-06 18:03:16
86.   Mattpat11
This is embarrassing.
2008-06-06 18:07:09
87.   OldYanksFan
With Boston getting pounded 8-0, this would be a good game to win.
2008-06-06 18:07:16
88.   cult of basebaal
hmmm ... assume the score stays as it is and molina's next turn comes up with a runner on ... the obvious thing is to PH jorgie ... am i wrong for doubting that girardi's would do it?
2008-06-06 18:08:10
89.   Yankees Brasil
That's 0 for 4 with RISP. And just 5 hits against Kyle Davies. Great offensive performance so far.
2008-06-06 18:08:39
90.   nick
ok, Ras proving me wrong here...
2008-06-06 18:09:28
91.   ny2ca2dc
88 Whatever the score, Po better be pinch hitting. Maybe just let him stay in.
2008-06-06 18:10:10
92.   ny2ca2dc
90 Girardi has Edwar up in the BP, just as he should.
2008-06-06 18:10:20
93.   Mattpat11
90 This may be his best inning.
2008-06-06 18:11:36
94.   rbj
I just got in. Didn't realize the Yankees were playing the Mets and facing Johann Santana.
2008-06-06 18:11:43
95.   ny2ca2dc
2 real good close pitches
2008-06-06 18:12:23
96.   nick
Ras is not great, but nothing seems to faze him--unlike Wang Moose and our other divas....
2008-06-06 18:12:34
97.   ny2ca2dc
No walks for Raz, right? Attaboy.
2008-06-06 18:14:39
98.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
really hard to put into words how annoying it is to watch Pedroia and Youkilis bat for the BoSox..sorry for all the Bos-Seattle chat but can't get GameDay working here and they don't switch broadcast feeds here when the game is a blowout..
2008-06-06 18:18:15
99.   Eirias
Who is the color commentator tonight? I'm watching it on and I'm not placing the voice. He is good.
2008-06-06 18:19:36
100.   Mattpat11
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2008-06-06 18:19:38
101.   cult of basebaal
99 cone i think
2008-06-06 18:19:42
102.   ny2ca2dc
2008-06-06 18:20:07
103.   nick
98 my two most disliked Sox....Varitek probably third...
2008-06-06 18:20:20
104.   rbj
Crap, tornado sirens going off here.
2008-06-06 18:20:22
105.   Eirias
Ah, David Cone.
2008-06-06 18:20:36
106.   ny2ca2dc
betemit OK i guess
2008-06-06 18:22:45
107.   Mattpat11
This is a fucking mess.


2008-06-06 18:24:15
108.   rbj
Wait, this isn't Santana, but the Royals and Kyle Davies who's pitching a shutout?
2008-06-06 18:25:03
109.   Mattpat11
2008-06-06 18:27:35
110.   Yankees Brasil
109 About time. If only we could get another one.
2008-06-06 18:28:58
111.   OldYanksFan
Yes, I was just thinking how good Cone is. Very straight, good insights, and very humble... at least conpared to Kaye.
2008-06-06 18:32:20
112.   nick
hmmm-I don't like it, would rather see Ohlie
2008-06-06 18:32:36
113.   nick
or Edwar...
2008-06-06 18:32:53
114.   cult of basebaal
why is rasner still in the game? WTF is the point of this?
2008-06-06 18:33:02
115.   ny2ca2dc
wow, Raz still in.
2008-06-06 18:33:42
116.   ny2ca2dc
114 Try to win the game?
2008-06-06 18:35:20
117.   Mattpat11
That was pretty
2008-06-06 18:37:46
118.   Eirias
So this is what starting pitching looks like.
2008-06-06 18:39:38
119.   ny2ca2dc
Man, if this is a loss, it's a feel good loss. (a what-now?!) Great job by Raz. Still winnable though.
2008-06-06 18:40:17
120.   OldYanksFan
OK Guys...
I know it's been a tough fight...
but let's win one...
for the Rasner.
2008-06-06 18:40:51
121.   nick
first starter to go 8 this year, I assume...
2008-06-06 18:41:11
122.   nick
(besides Wang)
2008-06-06 18:44:12
123.   Mattpat11
2008-06-06 18:46:10
124.   nick
hit one out, Alex!
2008-06-06 18:46:22
125.   cult of basebaal
119 i dunno, once again we left runners at third with less than 2 outs ... twice ... that's pretty irritating (again)
2008-06-06 18:46:50
126.   Travis08
Toronto took Shaun Marcum out after 99 pitches after a leadoff double up 4-0 in the 8th. They now trail 6-4.
2008-06-06 18:48:04
127.   51cq24
ok that first changeup was really good. the 2nd one wasn't close.
2008-06-06 18:50:35
128.   51cq24
hey michael kay just used "ironic" correctly!
2008-06-06 18:54:26
129.   Mattpat11
Horrendous, inexcusable call.
2008-06-06 18:54:55
130.   nick
VERY loud booing--how close on the check swing?
2008-06-06 18:54:59
131.   ny2ca2dc
not even fucking close.
2008-06-06 18:55:04
132.   Yankees Brasil
Pathetic call. The umpire really wants to go home.
2008-06-06 18:55:17
133.   cult of basebaal
129 for those of us on gameday, what happened?
2008-06-06 18:55:19
134.   51cq24
i've said this before- the home plate umpire has no business ever making that call. the corner umpire is the only one who can possibly judge it, and we see so many of these bullshit calls by the home plate ump.
2008-06-06 18:55:26
135.   Mattpat11
I am glad, however, that we had Abreu stand around and wait for the Earl Weaver three run homerun that never came. I didn't want to tie the game anyway.
2008-06-06 18:55:33
136.   cult of basebaal
133 never mind, got it
2008-06-06 18:55:36
137.   ny2ca2dc
129 COMPLETELY inexcusable - ask the fucking 3b ump. god fucking damnit.
2008-06-06 18:56:05
138.   OldYanksFan
Instant replay makes the right call in 4 seconds. I'm tired of umpires deciding the outcome of games.
2008-06-06 18:56:30
139.   Mattpat11
130 One of the worst calls in weeks. Giambi's hands didn't break the plate, let alone the head of the bat.
2008-06-06 18:56:42
140.   ny2ca2dc
It seems like every other day there's a game changing blown call
2008-06-06 18:57:16
141.   51cq24
138 but only home run calls impact the game!
2008-06-06 18:57:19
142.   Yankees Brasil
138 Forget instant replay, had he asked the 3B ump, he would have made the right call.
2008-06-06 18:57:23
143.   OldYanksFan
135 Just what did you want Abreu to do?
2008-06-06 18:58:54
144.   Mattpat11
143 Stand there. Duh.
2008-06-06 18:59:10
145.   ny2ca2dc
No I AM fucking pissed off. I would've been fine with the team losing this because I was so encouraged by and happy with Raz (even if it's the shitty Royals). But god damnit, ask for fucking help you asshole. Dirtbag.
2008-06-06 18:59:42
146.   OldYanksFan
Why didn't he ask the 3rd base ump? I thought that was standard procedure?
2008-06-06 19:00:42
147.   Yankees Brasil
Can the 3B umpire overrule the HP ump's call?
2008-06-06 19:00:51
148.   nick
can we ph Jorge for Moello in the 9th? is he ok?
2008-06-06 19:00:58
149.   51cq24
you know, in a situation as blatant as that, the 3b umpire shouldn't need to be asked for help. he should come to home plate and tell the home plate umpire that it wasn't close.
2008-06-06 19:01:07
150.   ny2ca2dc
146 Because he's a narcissistic buffoon. No doubt he'll say to the media "oops, ya looks like I missed that one", and nothing will ever happen. Frigin umps.
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2008-06-06 19:02:29
151.   ny2ca2dc
149 You're right. But have you EVER seen anything like that? I don't think these douchebags' egos can handle that.
2008-06-06 19:02:58
152.   Eirias
The color commentator should always be a pitcher.
2008-06-06 19:04:36
153.   51cq24
151 of course not
2008-06-06 19:06:24
154.   ny2ca2dc
Edwar, at least, is making me happy.
2008-06-06 19:07:11
155.   OldYanksFan
There is little incentive for umps to get it right. MLB should fine these guys for egregious calls. Anyone can miss a call, but why not ask for help. A few fines, and I'm sure the egos will disappear.
2008-06-06 19:07:18
156.   nick
nice job by Edwar...
2008-06-06 19:08:36
157.   51cq24
155 and use those fines to develop a computerized system
2008-06-06 19:09:31
158.   ny2ca2dc
155 I agree - some kind of discipline. I mean, not for "bang-bang" stuff, or "I thought it hit the foul pole, but it didn't" - but when they both blow the play and fail to consult the guy with the better look, or when they bait players (the Milton Bradley incident comes to mind), they need to be smacked. On what fucking planet are people allowed to get away with that kind of shit.
2008-06-06 19:09:40
159.   nick
I think it's more than time for computerized strike zones, & instant replay: basically reduce the role of the human ump to the guy who reads the screen....quainte fans of ye quirky olde tyme game of base ball who oppose this can bite me...
2008-06-06 19:10:55
160.   nick
Robbie and Melky show again?
2008-06-06 19:11:34
161.   Mattpat11
2008-06-06 19:11:48
162.   ny2ca2dc
159 You don't even have to computerize stuff - just sit the crew chief (a 5th ump) in the press box with the same fucking replays we see on TV, and give him ultimate authority. I really hope when the absurdly large HD scoreboard goes up in the new Yankee stadium the operators show these replays. That might get something started.
2008-06-06 19:13:02
163.   51cq24
161 i don't think he was necessarily sitting breaking ball. soria's arm angle is really deceptive.
2008-06-06 19:13:03
164.   doslobo38
No pressure Jorge
2008-06-06 19:13:52
165.   OldYanksFan
This guy can pitch.
2008-06-06 19:14:22
166.   51cq24
162 i think that would be a good first step, but eventually computers are the way to go. we should insist on 100% accuracy.
2008-06-06 19:14:59
167.   Mattpat11
165 Especially when you won't swing at his pitches down the middle.
2008-06-06 19:15:24
168.   Mattpat11
2008-06-06 19:16:19
169.   ny2ca2dc

can't hurt

2008-06-06 19:16:34
170.   OldYanksFan
Change is slow and incremental. Before we computerize umping, how about if we just have them pull their heads out of their assholes?
2008-06-06 19:16:38
171.   ny2ca2dc
Time for Damon to make up for his 0-fer
2008-06-06 19:16:50
172.   nick
162 yeah, but--I'm actually increasingly pissed off with the delusive self-importance umps display: they're not cute, we're not paying to watch them...
2008-06-06 19:17:35
173.   51cq24
wow that's really mo-ish
2008-06-06 19:19:05
174.   doslobo38
OK johnny time to extend that hitting streak
2008-06-06 19:19:19
175.   ny2ca2dc
166 Fair enough, but people get all bother about computerization, so I'd be good with SOME progress. like 170

I really, REALLY, want to see the replays of blown calls on the uber-tron. That'll get their attention.

2008-06-06 19:19:52
176.   OldYanksFan
That curve is nasty!
2008-06-06 19:20:17
177.   Mattpat11
Horrendous, horrendous game.
2008-06-06 19:20:20
178.   51cq24
wow damon really busted it there
2008-06-06 19:21:08
179.   nick
& I realize anew, yet again, that "momentum" in baseball is horseshit....
2008-06-06 19:21:28
180.   OldYanksFan
2008-06-06 19:22:46
181.   Mattpat11
I wonder if Robbie got that curveball he was waiting for yet.
2008-06-06 19:23:01
182.   Yankees Brasil
Horrible, horrible game. Guess nobody told the Yankees the Royals were on a 11-game losing streak and Kyle Davies has a career 6+ ERA. Back under .500.
2008-06-06 19:23:07
183.   ny2ca2dc
Just one walk drawn by the Yankees. There's your problem... (not counting the Giambi-violation)
2008-06-06 19:25:16
184.   OldYanksFan
Girardi should have been out there throwing a shit-fit after the Giambi call. Make sure that play makes SportsCenter the the entire country sees it. Girardi NEEDS to be out there making a BIG stink!
2008-06-06 19:25:18
185.   Mattpat11
Did Cano get that curveball yet?
2008-06-06 19:27:04
186.   ny2ca2dc
184 Agree. He just looked defeated in the dugout.
2008-06-06 19:28:03
187.   Mattpat11
185 I think he was busy tying an anchor to the ass of any runner than managed to get to first
2008-06-06 19:33:11
188.   Yankees Brasil
187 Girardi might not be a good manager after all.
2008-06-06 19:33:50
189.   Mattpat11
Did Cano get that curveball yet?
2008-06-06 19:35:21
190.   Yankees Brasil
If only the Yankees could play against themselves. Could get some easy wins.
2008-06-06 19:45:40
191.   Mattpat11
I refuse to "tip my cap to Kyle Davies" on general principle
2008-06-06 19:51:07
192.   Yankees Brasil
This was the perfect time for the Yanks to go on a 7 or 8 game winning streak and make up a bunch of games on the standings. Yet, all they do is lose, embarass themselves and get behind a little further.
2008-06-06 21:27:13
193.   williamnyy23
Unfortunately, I was at the game, but to anyone who still wants to believe in this team, tonight's game was another cold hard slap in the face. It's just isn't very good.
2008-06-06 22:16:50
194.   Calyankee
I just watched Jeremy Bleich pitch six excellent (one unearned run) innings vs. Cal State Fullerton in the NCAA West Regionals on ESPN 2.He had a pretty good fastball for a lefty and very good command. Cal State was off balance against him all night.
2008-06-07 05:45:30
195.   OldYanksFan
This team is depressing me. Maybe they are not a 94 win team? But they certainly don't seem like an 81 win team. Thet are just underperforming terribly.

Is it random? I don't know. Jeter, ARod, Melky and Cano all seem to be playing like they got something else on their mind. I don't know what the relationship between a team's NON RISP average and their RISP average should be. I'll guess a pitcher bears down more with RISP, so maybe a teams RISP average should be somewhat lower.

But if you take away RISP hits when the team is way ahead, and look at RISP when we are behind or tied, while I don't have numbers, it seems we are terrible. Terrible to a statistcially anomally. It's hard to believe this team is SO BAD with RISP.

Is there some mental/emotional factor at work here? This team is NOT THIS BAD.... but man... they are playing badly.

Has Jeter given up?
Is ARod truly 'unclutch'.
Is Robbie being a millionaire enough for him?
Does Melky feel he is our CFer no matter what?
What happened to IPK and Phil? And now Wang and Andy?

Is there a Manny jersey hidden somewhere in the clubhouse?

What the hell is going on with these guys?

2008-06-07 07:44:29
196.   Raf
Interesting analysis on Wang

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