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Position Battles: Backup Catcher
2007-02-14 20:49
by Cliff Corcoran

The Yankees' options for fifth starter are a solid group that combines a 31-year-old who won 18 games three years ago, a pair of rookies in their mid-20s who filled in capably last September, and perhaps the best pitching prospect in all of baseball, with another of the game's top prospects available as Plan E. At backup catcher, however, their choices are the old, the infirm, and the incapable. Here are the four candidates for the job:


NameDOBBatsML career (AB)mL career (AB)2006 (AB-level)
Wil Nieves8/25/77R.159/.198/.220 (82).288/.339/.398 (3,368).259/.298/.346 (321-AAA)
Todd Pratt2/09/67R.251/.344/.398 (1,612).260/.356/.402 (2,693).207/.272/.341 (135-MLB)
Raul Chavez3/18/73R.212/.253/.284 (405) .258/.309/.338 (4,412).255/.290/.337 (196-AA)
Ben Davis3/10/77S.237/.306/.366 (1,512).262/.325/.416 (2,231).222/.254/.333 (162-AAA)

Chavez, easily the worst hitter among this feeble foursome, was to be part of the discussion because of his defense, something Joe Torre has always valued highly from his catchers as evidenced by his conspiring to dump Mike Stanley for Joe Girardi upon arriving in the Bronx. Chavez, however, had his left hand broken by a pitch in winter ball. As he arrives in camp with his hand still in a cast, he's out of the running for the Opening Day roster.

Ben Davis was once a top catching prospect but, other than breaking up a Curt Schilling no-hitter with a bunt, has never done anything of value with the bat. Mix in a July 2005 Tommy John surgery which he spent last year rehabbing from, and he's fighting to keep his career afloat, never mind attempting to break camp with the team. He'll need to impress at triple-A and have the winner of this battle struggle to have any real shot at returning to the majors.

Thus, this battle rather quickly boils down to Wil Nieves, the youngest and least experienced of the group, and 40-year-old veteran Todd Pratt.

Nieves was acquired from the newly minted Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim just prior to the 2005 season for Brett Prinz, a Scott Proctor clone who had neither Proctor's latent curve ball nor any remaining options and quickly developed a major shoulder injury after the trade. Last year, Nieves made the Opening Day roster as a third catcher because he himself was out of options and the Yankees had no one better than Davis on hand to fill his third-string shin guards in the event he was claimed off waivers. In a convoluted scheme to demote Nieves to his rightful home in triple-A, the Yankees claimed Koyie Hill off waivers from the Diamondbacks as insurance before designating Nieves for assignment. Once Nieves cleared, they designated Hill. Nieves has made just ten trips to the plate for the Yankees in a pair of September call-ups over the last two years and has yet to reach base as a Yankee. Much like his Yankee batting average, Nieves is a total offensive zero. Lacking power or patience, he's perpetuated his minor league career by consistently hitting for modestly impressive averages (career .288), but last year he didn't even manage to do that, hitting .259.

Todd Pratt, on the other hand, was the best back-up catcher in baseball from 2002 to 2005. No one else was even close. With the Phillies from 2002 to 2005, Pratt hit .270/.378/.425 in 637 plate appearances while working on a series of one-year contracts in the $750,000 to $875,000 range. It should come as no surprise that I lobbied for the Yankees to sign Pratt as far back as the fall of 2003. It's ironic, then, that they finally signed Pratt this winter.

Catchers age both early and quickly, as Steve Goldman recently demonstrated. Pratt, who was highly productive through age 36 and continued to produce at an average level for his position through age 38, appeared to run out of age-defying magic beans last year with a terrible .207/.272/.341 season in 152 plate appearances at age 39. There are some reasons to be optimistic, however. Just 39 catchers in the history of the game made 100 or more plate appearances in their age-38 season. Pratt was among the most productive half of that group two years ago. One player not among the top half of that group was Carlton Fisk, who appeared to have run out of gas with a .221/.263/.337 season at age 38. Fisk then rebounded with a league-average season at age 39 and three extremely productive seasons from age 40 to 42. Of course, Fisk is not only a Hall of Famer, but, as Goldman's article points out, an extreme outlier. Then again, Pratt's strong production in his late-30s makes him something of an outlier as well.

Take another look at the 2006 seasons of the four catchers listed above. Even having seemingly bottomed out, Pratt out-hit Davis directly and didn't fall that far short of Nieves or Chavez while hitting at a level above Nieves and two levels above Chavez. To put things on an even plane, here are the 2006 equivalent averages (EqAs) for Pratt, Nieves, and Chavez (Baseball Prospectus didn't bother with Davis), EqA being a total offense stat that translates minor league performance to the major leagues and adjusts major league performance to a neutral environment:

Pratt .219
Nieves .214
Chavez .174

For Nieves and Chavez (and Davis who's clearly no better than Nieves), that number likely represents the sum total of their ability to produce in the majors. For Pratt, however, there remains a small hope that he could experience a rebound of sorts, even as a 40-year-old catcher. Even if he doesn't, he's unlikely to be any worse than Nieves and the rest. The Yankees will have to hope Nieves is able to clear waivers again this year, or that Davis has recovered enough to replace him, because Pratt should be the major league backup catcher until and unless they can bring in someone better from outside the organization.

The real question is how did a 40-year-old Todd Pratt become the Yankees' best option at backup catcher. In a way, the Yankees' backup catcher situation has mirrored their utility infielder situation under Joe Torre. Here's a quick look at the Yankee catchers other than Jorge Posada to make more than 10 plate appearances during the Joe Torre era:


NameSeasonsPAAVG/OBP/SLGEqA*
Joe Girardi1996-991,412.272/.317/.361.233
John Flaherty2003-05389.226/.261/.387.214
Jim Leyritz1996309.264/.355/.381.265
Chris Turner2000102.236/.320/.303.219
Todd Greene2001100.208/.240/.281.176
Kelly Stinnett 200687.228/.282/.304.212
Chris Widger200268.297/.338/.375.257
Sal Fasano 200657.143/.222/.286.182
Alberto Castillo200241.135/.158/.216.121
Joe Oliver200140.250/.263/.361.228
Wil Nieves 2005-0610.000/.000/.000-.223

*because I don't have the means to calculate EqA over a subsection of a player's career I've used unadjusted GPA for Girardi and Flaherty. GPA, though far less scientific, tends to skew closely to EqA, so it's a fair substitute. I've done the same on the chart below for players who played with more than one team in 2006 as I don't have the means to combine those figures.

Despite his .219 EqA representing a near catastrophic collapse, Pratt's 2006 wouldn't look out of place on this chart, and his PECOTA-projected .238 EqA for 2007 would actually be the best by any of Posada's caddies this side of Chris Widger's tiny 2002 sample (Leyritz backed up Girardi before Posada's arrival). Again the question must be asked, is this an organizational blind spot, or is it just not that crucial to get meaningful production from your backup catcher because no one else is either?

Well, here's a look at the men expected to fill that role for the other 29 teams ranked by their their 2006 EqAs, with their projected 2007 PECOTA EqAs as well:


NameAgeBats2006 EqA2007 Proj. EqA
Chris Coste34R.292.224
Mike Redmond36R.277.249
Humberto Quinitero27R.274.237
Rob Bowen26S.269.246
Chris Snyder26R.268.257
Mike Lieberthal35R.261.252
Eliezer Alfonzo28R.260.240
Javier Valentin31S.256.244
Ramon Castro31R.253.246
Ryan Doumit26S.252.270
Damian Miller37R.252.247
Vance Wilson34R.248.248
Henry Blanco35R.247.236
Kelly Shoppach27R.244.258
Josh Paul32R.243.237
Matt Treanor31R.241.221
Robert Fick33L.239.242
Yorvit Torrealba28R.239.239
Brayan Peña25S.238.237
Jason LaRue33R.234.242
Toby Hall31R.230*.230
Jose Molina32R.229.232
Adam Melhuse35S.223.227
Miguel Ojeda32R.219.236
Gary Bennett35R.208.207
Jason Phillips30R.203.208
Doug Mirabelli36R.202*.236
Paul Bako35L.168.189
Rene Rivera23R.148.210

Clearly the Yankees have been operating below average for most of Torre's tenure, though it's interesting to note that outside of Pittsburgh's Ryan Doumit, the best projection here is the .258 for Cleveland's Kelly Shoppach, while Pratt's projected .238 is the 15th best among the majors' 30 backup catchers. The latter is because 11 of the top 13 catchers above are projected to decline, significantly in the cases of chart-topper Chris Coste of Philadelphia and third-place Humberto Quintero of Houston. There's a common belief among statheads that every back-up catcher will at some point have a tremendously productive season due to the fluctuations resulting from their small samples of playing time. Those predicted declines are a reflection of the fact that Coste and Quintero especially just had theirs.

Looking at the four men predicted to cross the .250 EqA threshold in 2007, Doumit and Snyder are potential starters still under the control of the teams that drafted them, but trapped behind even better rivals in Ronnie Paulino and Miguel Montero respectively (though Snyder is supposed to platoon with Montero this year, being the righty in the pairing he'll get the short end of the playing time stick). Shoppach was dealt last year in the blockbuster deal that sent Andy Marte to Cleveland and Coco Crisp to Boston, otherwise he's still under team control as well. That just leaves Mike Lieberthal, who was the lone desirable backup catcher on the market this winter. Every other catcher worth fighting for landed a starting job, as did some who weren't worth it. After Lieberthal, the most productive catcher to change teams this winter was Jason LaRue, who went to Kansas City from the Reds for a player yet to be named later.

The Yankees would be well advised to keep tabs on the Pirates and Diamondbacks regarding Doumit and Snyder, as well as on the Braves, who have a young star in Brian McCann starting behind the plate, and another in Jarrod Saltalamacchia on his way up. Brayan Peña is unlikely to ever be more than yet another typical backup catcher, but he's young, a switch hitter, and would instantly improve the Yankees' catching depth at the major league level. The rub, of course, is that the Yankees just made a major deal with the Diamondbacks and failed to land Snyder or Montero. And, of course, the elephant in the room is the absence of Dioner Navarro, who was sent to Arizona in the first Randy Johnson trade and is now starting elsewhere in the AL East.

It's galling that the Diamondbacks swiped Navarro in that deal despite having Snyder and Montero on the way, then wasted him in a trade for the rapidly aging Shawn Green, who is now a Met. Of course, the Dodgers also frittered Navarro away, flipping him for the execrable Toby Hall once they had become flush with Russell Martin, only to watch Hall sign with the White Sox this winter. I suppose there's some comfort in knowing that the Yankees aren't the only organization that has nothing to show for Navarro (in fact, the Yankees got more from Johnson than the D'backs got from Green or the Dodgers got from Hall), but it that doesn't solve their current catching problem, nor is there comfort in the fact that the Dodgers at least had the sense to sign Lieberthal to replace him.

At any rate, the Yankees could have and should have done better than Todd Pratt this winter, but even if they had, it would have been an improvement by mere degrees rather than great bounds. Still, with the system now flush with pitching talent (former Baseball America and current Baseball Prospectus prospect hound Kevin Goldstein just ranked the Yankees' farm system first in baseball when it comes to pitching), Brian Cashman can turn his attention to stalking the Pirates, D'backs, Braves, and others in search of a deal for a young catcher who can fill what has been the organization's biggest void since Navarro was sent to wander the desert.

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2007-02-15 01:26:13
1.   Chyll Will
Is it safe to say at this point that the Yanks gambled on letting Navarro go and broke even, considering that he's shown virtually nothing for every place he's been since? Or is it his bad luck and/or reputation that overshadows the Yank's shortsightedness in trading him?

It's waaay to early in the morning to contemplate these things right now, trust me. No.1? Yeah-ok, I'm going to bed. Good analysis, Cliff; good morning, all... zzz

2007-02-15 01:30:19
2.   Chyll Will
zzz... the clock on the corner is right; add three hours to it and you know how stupidly early it is for me to be here, zzz...
2007-02-15 04:41:56
3.   mikeplugh
I hereby label this the Jim Dean thread.
2007-02-15 05:38:01
4.   Jim Dean
Two words (after those, no those...): Clement, Mathis.

One question: Any hope at all that Pilittere could make the team?

P.s., First time I've ever read a post and had to read a paragraph then take a break and then read a paragraph again. Just a vile combination of factors there.

If Jorge gets hurt (who has to be the one clear red light on the team), the lineup will feature Minky AND Pratt. That's two guys who could compete for the lowest OPS below .700.

2007-02-15 05:40:43
5.   Sliced Bread
"Remember the Navarro!" should be the rallying cry at Camp Ca$hman.

I've always liked Robert Fick: projected 2007 .242 EqA. Bats left, throws right,(which I'm partial to) my kind of utility player. Friend of mine knew him from high school, and I've followed his career a bit. Started as a catcher, but plays a lot of 1B and outfield these days.

Fick The Stick's currently fighting to fill in for Nick The Stick. Probably won't beat out Dmitri Young, but should prove more valuable than Travis Lee, another 1B candidate the Nats plucked from the scrapheap. He has an $850K minor league deal.
33 years old. Career line: .261/.329/.414. That's also pretty much what he's done the past two seasons, though his SLG percentage is closer to .350.
Might be worth dealing for.
Fick the Stick, anyone?

2007-02-15 06:00:42
6.   Jim Dean
Keep in mind too that the Unit trade didn't affect that pitching ranking much if at all. Ohlendorf has exactly one pitch. And even sadder - he was still in the running for a spot in the Dbacks rotation.

But the Yanks' position prospects? 18th in the game. And even then it's almost all because of Tabata.

Great, I'm glad they have pitching. But by the time the Unit trade came around they had other needs (and yes, I know I'm repeating myself from old ranting. I'll stop now. Or try to. Maybe now. Or now...)

2007-02-15 06:06:53
7.   Sliced Bread
Pitchers start pitching, and catchers start catching about an hour from now.
2007-02-15 06:09:32
8.   markp
Considering Dioner just turned 23 and has spent parts of the past three seasons in the majors, I think he's done OK. Aside from a poor 193 ABs with TB, he has some decent numbers OPS+ of 96 and 94 for the Dodgers in 251 ABs). Even in his minor league days, he was one of the younger players in the league at a lot of his stops.
He was the single reason I opposed the RJ trade.
2007-02-15 06:51:37
9.   rbj
Good backup catching is a scarce commodity, I'm not surprised at the lack of depth the Yankees have here. I'm willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that Pratt makes the team (keyword here is "veteran").

I think that a glove is more important in a backup catcher than his bat. But Minky & Pratt should never be in the lineup at the same time.

2007-02-15 06:58:31
10.   markp
I don't think a BUC's glove or bat are more important. It's his overall value that matters most. A guy with a decent stick but ordinary defense is more valuable than a great defender who can't hit at all or a good hitter who's terrible defensively.
2007-02-15 07:26:04
11.   jayd
by way of question, these numbers you quote for projections, are they for a full year? Seems to me that a backup catcher might get every 5th or 6th start, doublheaders, etc and not really appear that much during the course of a year. In which case, an in-shape 40 year old might suffice for the job...

is that what the numbers are projecting? or are they projecting a full season which Pratt would never have barring an injury to Jorge.

what's the view on catchers as FA in the coming years?

2007-02-15 07:30:32
12.   Cliff Corcoran
10 I couldn't agree more.

11 If you mean, are they projected into a starting role, no. The projections also project expected playing time. Pratt is projected for 110 PA, which, if you look at the chart of past Yankee backups above, is right on target.

4 Pilittere has not played an inning above A-ball, so, no. No chance.

2007-02-15 07:30:43
13.   Sliced Bread
10 I agree, which is why I nominate Fick of All Trades.
2007-02-15 07:44:53
14.   bp1
Just a quick dumb question here. Does "defense" include the ability to work with pitchers? I ask, because clearly some pitchers work well with some catchers, and I wonder if that is factored into their overall value when considering someone for the position.
2007-02-15 07:45:38
15.   Shaun P
13 No offense to Fick, but doesn't he fall into the "can hit but is awful defensively" category? IIRC, that's why he hasn't played catcher in a while.

What is it about catchers that makes finding two of them who can play defense, and hit, well enough so hard?

2007-02-15 07:52:18
16.   Cliff Corcoran
15 Position scarsity, which is particularly common at catcher because the phyiscal beating they take and the wear on their knees shortens their careers so much, and because so few youngsters are willing to be come catchers in part because of that wear and tear. The Catch-22 there is that because they're something of a field general and usually required to call pitches catchers need to be among the brighter ballplayers, but the brighter ballplayers are the ones more likely to understand that being a catcher is a brutal business, is likely to reduce their effectiveness at the plate, and almost guaranteed to shorten their career. The exception to the last being players who wouldn't have much of a career if they didn't have the defensive advantage of catchers, and thus you get the list of poor hitters above.
2007-02-15 08:00:13
17.   Sliced Bread
15 "Awful" might be too harsh a word to describe his catcher skills, "servicable" is probably more like it these days.

I see him as a better bat than Craig Wilson, similar 1B skills.

He'd probably be better than anyone we have for 1B or BUC, which is more an indictment against Doug Out, and Pratt, than praise for Fick The Stick.

2007-02-15 08:21:37
18.   markp
If you look at MLB history there were only a handful of good hitting catchers from 1901 to the present day. Of course up until the teens, even the best catchers were only behind the plate half the time. Even into the thirties there's still a lot of guys who either topped out at 350 ABs or played other positions to keep their bat in the lineup.
This reminds me of the baseball encyclopedia's title for the 1937 season "The Battery Trouble in Detroit". I've always found that a rather odd take on the season considering the Yanks had won in 1936 by 19.5 games and that their starting catcher had a 1026 OPS. Admittedly Rudy York wasn't Mickey Cochrane, but Schoolboy Rowe had only a slightly above average season in '36 saves for the 19 wins, and those were due more to run support than pitching acumen.
2007-02-15 08:26:05
19.   standuptriple
I was at that "Bunt to break up the no-no" game. I gotta say, for as much as I dislike Schilling he was DEALING that night. I noticed about the 4th that his pitch count was about 8/per inning. Eaton was going against him and actually pitched very well too.
11 I know the Cubs' Barrett is going to be a FA after this year.
2007-02-15 08:30:05
20.   Shaun P
16 Theoretically, if you could reduce the wear and tear, you might negate some of the position scarcity, right? Has any team ever tried tandem catching? By that I mean you have 2 guys at every level in the minors who split the catching duties 50-50.

I can see the downsides. If a guy can catch OK and hits very well, you want him playing as much as possible to develop the catching skills (and take advantage of the bat).

Or if a guy is a great defender, calls games well, etc, but hasn't tapped into his hitting abilities, you want him playing as much as possible too so the hitting develops.

You would think there's got to be a solution to this one.

2007-02-15 08:30:27
21.   Sliced Bread
15 Fick hardly caught any games in '03 and '04, but returned to the position in '05

Fick caught 26 games last season:
.248/.347/.379 (as catcher)

Caught 28 games in 2005:
.341/.398/.427 (as catcher)

2007-02-15 08:32:49
22.   Cliff Corcoran
19 After McCann, Barrett's the best catcher in the NL right now having improved in each of the last three seasons. That said, this is his age-30 season, so he'd really only be viable as a short-term fix should Jorge collapse this year. Given the fact that Jorge was better defensively last year than ever before, there's no sense in moving him to first to make room for Barrett and Barrett will not sign to be a backup.
2007-02-15 08:33:30
23.   yankz
Man. I would do anything to be a pro baseball player.

Let's say they extend Mo. By the end of his contract he's still good, but there's a better man for the closer job. Would they move Mo to middle relief? Can you imagine being the guy Mariano Rivera has to set up for?

2007-02-15 08:46:04
24.   Cliff Corcoran
23 John Wetteland can.
2007-02-15 08:51:08
25.   Jim Dean
What I'm going to look for from Mo is when/if his cutter starts getting hit hard. What's crazy is it could happen this year or it could happen in five years. But it's such a tremendous pitch that even if he doesn't generate the same velocity, if the late movement is there, he can still get weak tappers. As the movement of that pitch goes, so goes Mo.

It wouldn't surprise me to have Mo be 45 and still closing games.

2007-02-15 08:56:15
26.   yankz
That was before Mo became God.
2007-02-15 08:59:01
27.   Bama Yankee
16 "The Catch-22 there is that because they're something of a field general and usually required to call pitches catchers need to be among the brighter ballplayers, but the brighter ballplayers are the ones more likely to understand that being a catcher is a brutal business"

Good point, Cliff. I guess you could call that the "Catcher-22" ;-)

2007-02-15 09:12:53
28.   Cliff Corcoran
26 Using WXRL (which credits relievers for their direct effect on team win expectancy), 1996 was Mo's second most valuable season ever (in part due to innings pitched, as WXRL is cummulative):

2004: 7.427 (1.83 leverage)
1996: 6.877 (1.30 leverage)

130 Ks and just one homer in 107 2/3 IP? That's pretty god-like if you ask me.

2007-02-15 09:15:55
29.   Sliced Bread
28 who was "the one" that took him deep?
2007-02-15 09:17:25
30.   Cliff Corcoran
25 For yucks, PECOTA thinks Mo will pitch until he's 40 and will be consistent right up until retirement. I'm more concerned about Mo's control/command than the effectiveness of his cutter. Seems to me when Mo's gone bad in recent years it's because he's wild. The most glaring example being Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS, in which a lead-off walk to Kevin Millar set up Dave Roberts' steal and the need to pour a strike lead to Mueller's RBI single up the middle (if I recall correctly).