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How Much More Can You Give Us Big Cash?
2006-07-31 19:16
by Cliff Corcoran

Sunday's acquisition of Bobby Abreu and Cory Lidle for Matt Smith and three non-prospects filled the Yankees' two primary needs in one move for minimal cost. In fact, the move was such masterstroke that yesterday's follow-up trade of Shawn Chacon for the Pirates' Craig Wilson almost seemed like showing off.

To begin with, not only had Chacon been removed from the rotation after a disaster start in Cleveland on July 4, but with the acquisition of Lidle on Sunday, he had become a burden, a player occupying a spot on the 25-man roster who had no role to play and was unable to contribute to a winning effort when given an opportunity.

In exchange for this player, the Yankees obtained Wilson, a right handed first-baseman and outfielder with both patience and power at the plate who also has experience behind it. A career .268/.360/.486 hitter, Wilson is exactly the hitter I had hoped Andy Phillips would be at the plate given a proper opportunity. Unfortunately, Phillips hasn't quite lived up to expectations, hitting just .239/.272/.401 in 235 plate appearances. Enter Wilson, who is just four months Phillips' senior and has put up those numbers over 2,133 career major league plate appearances.

Yup, the Yankees have a new starting first baseman, or at least a player who can start every day and bounce between first, DH and the corner outfielders per the needs of the regulars in those other positions. If there's any down side to Wilson it's that he's a subpar defensive first baseman, but according to Baseball Prospectus's Rate stats, Andy Phillips has been just as bad this year despite what has looked to the naked eye like some excellent play around the first base bag. Of course, both are significantly better than Giambi (the exact numbers are a 93 Rate for Wilson and Phillips and an 83 Rate for Giambi). My theory on Phillips' figure is that he just might be the defensive equivalent of Derek Jeter at first base, a solid player who makes some spectacular-looking plays within a deceptively small range.

So, Wilson holds the line on defense and greatly increases the Yankees production on offense. Not a bad trick. The result is a line-up that could look like this upon the return of Robinson Cano:

L - Johnny Damon (CF)
R - Derek Jeter (SS)
L - Bobby Abreu (RF)
R - Alex Rodriguez (3B)
L - Jason Giambi (DH)
S - Jorge Posada (C)
R - Craig Wilson (1B)
L - Robinson Cano (2B)
S - Melky Cabrera (LF)

And that's without getting Matsui or Sheffield back.

All that's left do to now is to figure out who has to go to make room for the new guys. Brian Cashman can help out somewhat with that. Lidle replaces Ponson in the rotation, but according to Cashman, "Ponson wanted to stay and be a part of this, so he'll swing over to the bullpen," so ultimately Lidle replaces Chacon.

Meanwhile Aaron Guiel has already been optioned to Columbus to make room for Abreu and, again according to Cashman, "as we move forward, Andy Phillips is definitely a part of this team." Indeed, thanks to Andy's reverse split, he and Bernie Williams combine to give the Yankees complimentary pair of bats of the bench for deployment against lefties (Bernie: .327/.397/.505) and righties (Andy: .262/.292/.483) as well as back-ups at first base and the outfield, with Wilson also able to move into the corner outfield positions should Phillips replace him at first base.

That leaves Bubba Crosby and Nick Green as the candidates to be cut to make room for Wilson. Without Crosby, the Yankees wouldn't have a viable pinch-runner (Green is 5 for 11 career on the bases) or a reliable back-up centerfielder (Melky could move over to center, but he's not played there all year and his doing so would require an inferior defender to shift into left). Without Green, the Yankees would have to rely on Phillips as a back-up second baseman until Robinson Cano returns to complicate the issue, and would have to deploy Phillips at either second or third in order to use Miguel Cairo or Alex Rodriguez as the back-up shortstop. Meanwhile, here are the career and 2006 hitting numbers of the two players in question:

2006:
Crosby: .207/.258/.299 (96 PA)
Green: .183/.300/.300 (70 PA)

Career:
Crosby: .216/.255/.300 (269 PA)
Green: .248/.319/.358 (735 PA)

Green holds a small advantage on offense and, frankly, after seeing Melky play left so well this year (110 Rate), I'm less troubled by the idea of Melky backing up center than I am Andy backing up second, where he's played all of two innings in the majors. What's more, with Green hitting .381/.480/.714 as a Yankee, he's both the hot hand and the younger player (by two years). Then there's this:

2006:
Green: .183/.300/.300 (70 PA)
Cairo: .236/.271/.299 (204 PA)

Career:
Green: .248/.319/.358 (735 PA)
Cairo: .268/.315/.360 (3204 PA)

It's a pipe dream to think that the 27-year-old Green would ever keep his job over the 32-year-old Cairo when Cano returns, and Cairo breaks that tie at the plate with superior defense and vastly superior base running (base running that would make him a more than viable pinch-runner after Cano's return, making Crosby even more expendable), but I'm far more interested in seeing what more Green has to offer whereas I'm already under whelmed by what I know Bubba has.

And, yes, the Yankees could easily keep both Crosby and Green by demoting T.J. Beam, but that would only delay the choice a week or so until Cano's return. That said, there's one other pipe dream I've been having that would start with the Yankees keeping Green and Crosby and demoting Beam. You see, Craig Wilson caught 40 games as a member of the Pirates. The most recent was in 2004 and only half of those 40 games were starts. Still, I'd like to see the Yankees try Wilson out behind the plate a couple of times in the next two weeks with the hope of having Cano replace, not Green or Crosby, but Sal Fasano. Imagine the possibilities of a roster with this kind of flexibility behind the monstrous line-up posted above:

R - Wilson (1B/C/RF/LF)

R - Phillips (1B/3B/2B/PH v.L)
S - Williams (RF/LF/CF/PH v.R)
R - Cairo (2B/SS/3B/1B/OF/PR)
R - Green (2B/SS/3B/OF)
L - Crosby (CF/LF/RF/PR)

If Brian Cashman had a number I'd buy his jersey.

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2006-07-31 22:39:40
1.   yankz
Guess we're the only insomniacs, Cliff. That last line is money. I really don't see them getting rid of Fasano, though.

You have Green listed as an OF, is this true? If he's any good, that would definitely make Crosby seem more expendable.

2006-07-31 22:49:05
2.   baileywalk
Cliff, I think your math is off. I don't think there's a way to have both Green and Bubba on the team, even if Beam is sent down (and Cano is on the DL).

Think about it:

Infielders: Giambi, Wilson, Andy, Jeter, Cairo, Green, Jeter, A-Rod. (8.)
Catchers: Posada and Fasano. (2.)
Outfielders: Abreu, Damon, Melky, Bubba, Bernie. (5.)
SP: Moose, Wang, RJ, Wright, Lidle. (5.)
RP: Mo, Farnsworth, Proctor, Villone, Myers, Ponson. (6.)

That's 26 players. Someone from this group has to go -- and stay gone, because they need a spot for Cano.

2006-07-31 23:03:58
3.   yankee23
2 I think you have a case of that pesky double-jeter-vision.
2006-07-31 23:05:06
4.   seamus
2 I know folks like to overrate Jeter, but counting him as two infielders! wow!

You might want to redo the math!

2006-07-31 23:05:39
5.   seamus
3 beat me to it. I wouldn't mind having two jeters on the team though.
2006-07-31 23:06:49
6.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Cairo's range at second is hardly impressive. I wouldn't mind having Andy at second (espically next year, once he works on the other IF moves a little more) as far as blind bats go at least some of Andy's rare connections go out of the park.

Also, Cairo is probably the most viable PR on the team.

2006-07-31 23:46:01
7.   brockdc
Great, Cliff. I just posted an action pose of a contorted - and surprisingly flexible - Fasano bunting and you already want to take him away from me. Thanks a lot.
2006-07-31 23:48:24
8.   brockdc
Oh, and that action pose is my screen saver. It's not like it's on my ceiling or anything. Ceiling's for Balboni pix.
2006-07-31 23:50:24
9.   phee
Andy at 2nd next year? Uh Cano is an all-star this year at 23. Andy at 30(next year) is not cutting it for me.
2006-07-31 23:53:22
10.   monkeypants
9 I think the implication was as the backup 2B.
2006-08-01 00:25:20
11.   Stormer Sports
Cliff,

Hoooo Weeeeee Conan!

I could not agree more. I feel like the guy running down Wall Street after just pulling off an insider job for millions and not getting caught. Brian Cashman deserves this most recent work to be properly praised and objectively weighed in the press and online. There can be no question that he pulled off the "deals" of the year, making by far the largest improvement to any team in all of Major League baseball. Further, unless Henry proves to be the second coming of Derek Jeter, Cashman accomplished everything with almost no real cost, other than an increased salary next year. How another team didn't make an offer superior to ours to the Phillies for Abreu and Lidle is beyond me. There are enough teams out there with the cash to pay a young 32 year old Abreu. I understand David Ortiz's reaction completely. What he really meant was "we couldn't put together 4 better guys than that?" I didn't believe the PR spun monologue spewed by Theo Epstien today. That team doesn't have a sngle position player on the MLB club from their minor league system. What kind of long term plan do they have over there all of a sudden?

Grabbing Craig Wilson this afternoon for what was basically our household trash, was exactly as you put it "showing off."

If it were my choice, I would jettison Beam. If given the choice between Green or Bubba, and there only real role would be as a late inning pinch runner and/or sporatic defense, "or two Jeters of course," I go with Bubba. He is the best pinch runner we have-- and that might come in handy--and I don't think we lose much, if anything, by keeping him. There seems to be love-fest for Andy Phillips throughout the Front Office and with Joe, and that is a little befuddling, but I'm not complaining about anything today. Well, I do wish I hadn't sat through the entire Red Sox game today, ugh.

I think tomorrow should be "Brian Cashman Day" at the Stadium. They should parade him out there on a golf cart and give him a curtain call. No one should say he didn't do his job this year, big money team or no money team, he done good. Get Big Stein a Calzone, he's happy today.

2006-08-01 02:17:40
12.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Actually, Cario is the best pinch runner we have, he is 11 SB 1 CS this year, Bubba is 3SB 1 CS. quite a few of the SBs Cairo have are stealing 3rd too.

Playing the game itself should let you realize it's not just about the speed when u steal, it's about the read and jump... in that aspect, Miguel Cario (aka, Tony Womack at 1/3 the cost) is good.

2006-08-01 03:28:11
13.   randym77
Does Green still have options? Maybe they could stash him in Columbus with Guiel for a few weeks.

Though they's still have to punt someone when Cano comes back.

I think if it was up to me, I'd send Beam back to Columbus. "Bat Boy" maybe have a bright future ahead of him, but right now, there's no lead I trust him to hold. I can't imagine putting him on the mound unless the rest of the bullpen was unexpectedly kidnapped by aliens.

2006-08-01 03:31:12
14.   Yu-Hsing Chen
I doubt there will be a conga line in picking up Green through Waivers (or Bubba for that matter)
2006-08-01 03:43:10
15.   randym77
Hmmm. The local papers all seem to be expecting Beam to be sent down.

The Star-Ledger reports that Bubba's spot is safe, but I wonder if they really meant Andy.

In any case, with Cano, Dotel, and Matsui all possibly returning before rosters expand, Bubba, Andy, and Nick will be playing for their jobs.

2006-08-01 04:26:17
16.   phee
sorry, should've picked up Yu meant back up 2nd basemen. I'm delirious about the steals Cash made.
2006-08-01 04:27:59
17.   phee
baseman*, like i said, delirious, the tequila doesn't help either.
2006-08-01 05:14:57
18.   Simone
I'm glad that Ponson decided that he wanted to stay and come out of the bullpen. I think that if Moose and Guidry can tweak him a bit and make him a decent long man, he will be real help down the line.

There is no guarantee that the Yankees will make the playoffs, but Cashman deserves an A++ for these trades. The Yankees are definitely a better team than they were before and their odds of making the playoffs have increased significantly.

2006-08-01 05:17:24
19.   Sliced Bread
The Iceman delivereth.
Even if nobody is rockin' his jersey tonight, $!man has to be included in the right field 'roll call.' Got that, bleacher creatures?

But as shrewd as $!man is on the baseball business front, why would Mr. Upgrade shlep down into the city sewer system on one of the hottest days of the year (certainly his hottest) and subject himself to a "confrontation" with that rat bastid Mad Dog? Even if it was only for laughs, how could Cash stand the stench of Russo's rancid radio breath down there?

Clearly, $!man has a stronger stomach than most, to go with his titanium testicles and coolhand trigger finger.

The Cliffman delivereth, too. Excellent job once again.

2006-08-01 05:18:42
20.   Alex Belth
"If Brian Cashman had a number I'd buy his jersey."

Mad funny, Cliff.

2006-08-01 05:32:40
21.   bp1
19 You hear that interview w/ Cash yesterday on WFAN? Man oh man. I was hollering in the car. Cash impressed the heck out of me - putting a verbal smackdown on Russo (jerk). That's the attitude that can win some ballgames. When you're GM of the Yankees, you don't need to take crap from some dope radio jock.

Yup - you called it, Cliff. A Cashman jersey would look nice today, and I'll echo the rest of the crew in their praise of today's piece.

2006-08-01 05:38:27
22.   Alex Belth
Yeah, check out the WFAN site and click on July 31 Russo interview with Cashman. Cash gets ruffled. Good stuff.
2006-08-01 05:39:58
23.   Sliced Bread
I used to think my mother served up the best meatballs and gravy in the country, but did you see the "pitching" in that Indians-Red Sox debacle last night?

The Indians haven't been jobbed like that since they sold Manhattan for beads. (rimshot)

Lame jokes aside, I hope the new Yankees are ready for what they're in for. It's shaping up to be a pennant race for the ages, starting with a crucial AL East battle tonight.

308 comments on the Bronx Banter board last night (some really funny ones too) chewing over the trades, and what appeared to be a Red Sox loss. The Banterers are ready to roll.

Think Abreu, Lidle, and Wilson are in for a little baseball culture shock when they step into the Stadium tonight?

2006-08-01 06:00:39
24.   rbj
Good, solid trades. Now, if Cashman can only do something about David Ortiz. Anybody got a voodoo doll?
2006-08-01 06:31:02
25.   Sliced Bread
I can't think of a game situation in which I'd throw anything resembling a strike to David Ortiz but, for some reason, Major League pitchers continue to press the big red button marked "Do Not Press," which causes them to instantly lose muscular coordination, and bladder control.

If managers and pitchers refuse to issue Ortiz an intentional walk, the best defense I can come up with is a radical new-fangled Papi Shift.

You position your third baseman, shortstop, second baseman, first baseman, left fielder, center fielder, right fielder, and even your catcher approximately four feet in front of the plate. On the pitch, have them rush the plate, arms up, attempting to block that kick.

There is no other solution.

2006-08-01 06:32:29
26.   Alex Belth
That kid was pitching scared in the ninth for the Indians last night. I saw the whole thing unfold and was busy cursing out the Tribe when I realized, screw it, Ortiz has homered against a lot of very good pitchers too. The Indians did a poor job--especially mincing around trying to get Youkilis to chase a bad pitch--but the facts are the following: D. Ortiz is a special player.
2006-08-01 06:43:40
27.   tommyl
25 Actually my late inning Ortiz shift has the 3B, SS and LF positioned in the lower, mezzanine and upper decks respectively.
2006-08-01 06:43:48
28.   Sliced Bread
Seriously. Growing up we used to play what we called "The Running Game" which was our variation of "Kill The Guy With The Ball."

Guy starts in the endzone with the ball, while the rest line up at the 20 yard line.

Hike! and you're off to the races, trying to blast toward the weakest link in the fence rushing toward you.

99.9% of the time you got gang tackled.

That's pitching to Ortiz. The Running Game.

2006-08-01 06:46:59
29.   Dan M
I used to have a well-reasoned argument that David Ortiz cannot be the MVP, but after last night it no longer flies. I know he has Manny behind him, but at some point you would think he'd ground a phat pitch into a game-ending double play - but he never does!

We can only hope that Ortiz gets his heroics out of his system this week before the Yanks go to Boston.

2006-08-01 06:53:43
30.   mickey1956
11 Don't worry. C.J. Henry is NOT the 2nd coming of Jeter. In his 20 year old season Jeter made it to AA and raked. C.J. is in low A and struggling. No comparison. Wilson is going to be a huge pick up. All of our outfielders and our 1st baseman(not including Sheff) are left handed. Melky hits better as a righty. Having Wilson and Bernie on the bench the rest of the year is going to be a huge positive. I can't get over how well the team is being run this year.
2006-08-01 07:00:28
31.   mickey1956
I think this team has to keep 12 pitchers. I know that means a bench player is lost. With Meyers in the bullpen the team needs an extra reliever so Proctor's arm doesn't turn into mush.
2006-08-01 07:11:39
32.   JohnnyC
Hey, Ortiz struck out to end a game just this past weekend. This is getting to be the mirror image of the whole ARod un-clutch argument. He's not even the most clutch hitter of the month...Carlos Beltran hit 3 GS among his other feats in July.
2006-08-01 07:14:03
33.   Paul in Boston
27 Brilliant.

It's hard to describe the effect that Ortiz has on the collective mood of this city. Falling ceiling tiles in the Big Dig tunnel kind of fade into the background when Big Papi hits another walk-off hit. He's not only the MVP of baseball, but of all of New England.

Respect must be paid ...

2006-08-01 07:15:29
34.   JohnnyC
30 If Henry had remained in the Yankees system, he would have surely been moved to the outfield (on pace for almost 40 errors this season). That, in itself, would have reduced his value as a prospect. However, Philly seems to want to keep him at SS...for the moment. Probably because they'd like to spin him off in the off-season to a team in need of SS prospects.
2006-08-01 07:38:43
35.   YankeeInMichigan
One more difference between Wilson and Phillips: Phillips hits up to his potential (sometimes) only when he is playing every day, while Wilson has been effective off the bench. If Shef returns as DH, or the Yanks make the World Series and have to play without a DH, Wilson will be that bat off the bench that we have not seen since the Davis/Strawberry days.
2006-08-01 07:42:48
36.   weeping for brunnhilde
2--Hey Stormer. I don't mean to be sanctimonious and by no means am I singling you out, but I just had to say that I get very disturbed when human beings are referred to as trash or garbage, etc. It's one thing to criticize someone's performance, another to call them trash.

I understand the context and that it's a figure of speech and all of that, but still, that kind of rhetoric crosses a line, and quite frankly frightens me. These are, afterall, human beings we're talking about.

That's all. Sorry to swoop in like this and nag, but I just had to say something.

In other news, I finally return to the States on Thursday after a summer in Rome and can't wait to start watching the boys again. I'm very excited about the state of the team right now.

Onward!

2006-08-01 07:43:58
37.   mickey1956
34 I've seen him play a bunch this year. He has the raw ability to learn to play short. His bat is the problem. His swing is way too long right now to hit a good fastball.
2006-08-01 07:44:39
38.   Shaun P
27 Props, Sliced - that's another good one.

I wonder if you could get a Yankee jersey with a '$' instead of a number. That would be fitting for Cashman, wouldn't it?

What a fantastic GM. Even if these moves don't bring the Yanks to the promised land this year, I feel so much better about the future knowing that Cashman is in charge.

2006-08-01 07:45:35
39.   Bama Yankee
You have to give credit to Ortiz. The fans were screaming for it, his teammates were counting on him, heck, even the ESPN announcers were calling for it and he came to bat in another clutch situation... and delivered. He's done it in the regular season, he's done it in the postseason, he's even done it in the WBC. What's next, the whiffle ball tournament at the ESPN company picnic?

Overheard from Fausto Carmona after the game last night: "There comes a time when you just have to tip your hat to the guy and call him your Papi..."

One question, when are teams going to start walking him like they did Bonds a couple years ago?

2006-08-01 07:52:42
40.   Peter
How about a customized Cashman 06 jersey if the Yanks win it all this year?
2006-08-01 07:58:25
41.   seamus
seems like ESPN really had to stretch to get the message they wanted in this headline:

" Jeter cologne not for those who think Yanks stink"

2006-08-01 08:11:40
42.   sabernar
When Dotel comes back, does Ponson get the boot? Is there anyone else to jettison besides him?
2006-08-01 08:21:16
43.   baileywalk
I accidentally counted Jeter twice in that second post. But it doesn't matter -- you can't have Bubba, Green and Beam on the same team, which is what Cliff said. Beam has already been sent down. Which means the bullpen is short -- Ponson gets mopup duty, Myers faces one man, and Proctor, Villone, Farnsworth and Mo have to do all the heavy lifting.
2006-08-01 08:21:52
44.   Ron Burgundy
41 ESPN can DIAF.
2006-08-01 08:27:45
45.   Dan M
Bama, the problem is that Manny, who is the better hitter, protects Ortiz; Bonds hasn't had that kind of protection (the 120 IBB came after Kent was gone). You could walk Ortiz last night, but that puts the winning run on base for Manny.
2006-08-01 08:36:24
46.   tommyl
38 Hey that was me, not Sliced. I come up with something witty so rarely, I want credit :).
2006-08-01 08:40:52
47.   monkeypants
43 They only need to ride out the short bullpen until september call-ups. Anyway, how would additional pitchers matter the way Torre uses the BP anyway? Thekey in all of this might be Johnson. You know you're going to get 7 or 8 innings from #1 and #2. You pretty much know you're going to get 5 or maybe 6 innings from Lidle/Wright/Chacon/Small/Wilson/Ponson/Leiter/etc.

If Johnson gives 7+, the BP might be OK. If bad Johnson shows up--look out for the next week.

2006-08-01 08:44:53
48.   Bob B
I turned off the Sox game when Ortiz came up. I just knew the home run was coming. I think we collectively moved into Bizzaro land during the 9th inning of the 2004 playoff in Boston, you know, some kind of alternate reality where everything is backwards. In reality, we're still chanting 1918. Anybody figured out how to get back there?
2006-08-01 08:46:02
49.   Shaun P