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Blue Jays Vol. II
2006-04-28 13:22
by Cliff Corcoran
Note: The Bronx Banter blog has moved to bronxbanterblog.com.

Tonight, the Yankees open a three-game weekend series with the Blue Jays in the Bronx. These two teams last met in Toronto just over a week ago, splitting a two-game "series" due to radically disperate performances by Randy Johnson and Mike Mussina. Not much has changed about this Blue Jay team in the interim. The only change to their roster is that A.J. Burnett (hereafter known as the Canadian Pavano) is back on the DL and has been replaced in the rotation by hot prospect Casey Janssen, who was drafted out of UCLA in 2004. Burnett did not pitch against the Yankees last week and Janssen will not pitch in this weekend's series, so for all the Yankees will know, this team is unaltered.

They have shuffled the line-up however, primarily because of Alexis Rios, who at 25 appears to finally be living up to his early hype. Rios was rushed to the majors at age 23 after just 185 unimpressive triple-A at-bats and has struggled mightily the past two seasons to the point that he was supposed to platoon in right field this year with twice displaced former Rookie of the Year Eric Hinske. Poor Eric.

What's been most startling about Rios thus far is his power. Rios had just 31 professional homers coming into this season and no more than 11 in any single season at any level, or combination of levels. Thus far, in 18 games he's homered six times and is hitting .368/.375/.772. Certainly he's not that good, but a month into the season, he doesn't appear to be cooling off very much, having gone 3 for 4 with a homer against the Orioles on Wednesday. Last week in two games against the Yankees, Rios went 3 for 7 with a homer, two doubles, four RBIs and two runs scored (doing most of that damage against Randy Johnson whom he's now 6 for 11 against career with three extra base hits). You just can't keep that kind of production in the eighth spot, so Rios moves up to second in the order, pushing Frank Catalanotto (or Reed Johnson) into the lead-off spot, and dropping Russ Adams down to his vacated eighth spot. The result looks like this:

L – Frank Catalanotto (LF)
R – Alexis Rios (RF)
R – Vernon Wells (CF)
R – Troy Glaus (3B)
L – Lyle Overbay (1B)
R – Shea Hillenbrand (DH)
R – Bengie Molina (C)
L – Russ Adams (SS)
R – Aaron Hill (2B)

The man who will try to stop some version of that lineup tonight will be Jaret Wright. Wright is making just his second start of the year in addition to a lone relief appearance, both of those prior outings having ended badly. Wright claims that the long rest and excitement about finally getting on the mound caused him to overthrow against the Twins two weeks ago. We'll see if he's able to dial it down a bit tonight. He'll certainly shock the pants off of everyone watching if he is. Making matters worse, his mound opponent is Blue Jay ace Roy Halladay. Halladay hasn't been his dominant self yet this season, and was even skipped two turns ago due to stiffness in his pitching forearm, but still comes into the Bronx sporting a 3.60 ERA, which should be more than enough to outpitch Jaret Wrong.

A couple quick line-up notes: Kelly Stinnett will catch Wright tonight so that Posada can catch Johnson in tomorrow's day game. Johnny Damon is back in the field, as is Bernie, who will play right for tonight's DH, Gary Sheffield.

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2006-04-28 14:13:35
1.   ChrisS
Re: Alex Rios

One thing about his previous home-run deficient seasons is that he did rip a fair amount of doubles (24 & 23 in 426 and 481 ABs respectively) and if there's one thing that's been drilled into my head it's that as young hitters age, doubles turn into home runs, often quickly. So, I don't think it's entirely unexpected. A lot of the early reports I've seen on him all raved about his tools and that it was just a matter of maturation.

2006-04-28 14:33:59
2.   standuptriple
I'm having a hard time convincing myself that Wright can keep this within reach with Halladay out there. How short will the leash be? 3ER? 4ER? 3BB? 4BB? I shudder at the thought of anything more than that. Plus the Yanks won't have as much of a chance pulling out a W if they continue to leave ducks on the pond like they did v. TB. Ryan is a far cry from the Rays "closers".
2006-04-28 14:35:22
3.   Andre
Another Friday night game without the Yanks on indemand -- I'll never understand how they can get away with blackouts when you're paying roughly $1 per game for every game of the year.
2006-04-28 14:43:45
4.   Paul in Boston
Andre, I couldn't agree more.

What's the deal with Damon at DH two games in a row? Is he hurt?

2006-04-28 14:56:10
5.   Shawn Clap
Now I've been a strong supporter of Bernie all season long, but Bernie in RF is just plain-old stupid. He doesn't have the arm for center, forget about right.

I wish there was an over/under for Toronto 1st-to-3rds tonight. Easy money on the OVER!

2006-04-28 15:00:38
6.   markp
If Wright does well, it won't shock me at all.
2006-04-28 15:02:50
7.   standuptriple
WTF? That is ridiculous. Has anybody heard an explanation for this? Does YES have some proprietary domain on this particular game or something?
2006-04-28 15:20:54
8.   Shaun P
347 The problem is that the game isn't on YES, its on WWOR. For some reason, when its the local network, not the regional sports network, carrying a game, it doesn't get picked up, even if it is a home game.

I personally think its one of the stupidest things about the whole Extra Innings package. That, and that you usually only get the home announcers. We ought to have a choice between home and away announcers, so we can get the YES feed when the Yanks are on the road.

2006-04-28 15:25:53
9.   Paul in Boston
Does anyone get the games on-line via MLB.com? How is the video quality?
2006-04-28 15:31:58
10.   tocho
it makes sense that the day you need A LOT of offense you use the Stinett-Bernie combo in the line-up. Not to mention that you use your worst defensive outfielder for a day that looks to be busy in the outfield...

anyway, given that baseball is THE most unpredictable game, I suppose the yankees will win tonight with a strong effort by Proctor.

2006-04-28 15:40:36
11.   monkeypants
10 No, no, you just don't understand the big picture. Baseball is a thinking man's game; a long term chess match.

You see, with Wright against Halladay, the Yanks almost certain to lose. So Torre is cleverly resting as many good bats as possible so that they will be fresh tomorrow. Then presuming the series is tied 1-1 after tomorrow, he will start enthusiastic Miguel Cairo at 1B on Sunday, thus clinching the series victory.

You see, sometimes you have to sacrifice for the greater good rather than seek instant gratification.

2006-04-28 15:46:55
12.   tocho
11 Mr. Torre, I'm so glad you could join us for a few minutes here at the Bronx Banter.
2006-04-28 15:47:05
13.   RichYF
monkeypants: The saddest part is that I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
2006-04-28 15:48:02
14.   tocho
on another note, I think Stinett is from the future...
2006-04-28 16:05:59
15.   mikeplugh
Did anyone see that Steve Howe died in a car crash today? He was 48.

What an unfortunate story for a guy who had his share of hardships, even with the great fortune of being blessed with a Major League arm and a Yankee career.

http://tinyurl.com/psbb7

2006-04-28 16:10:28
16.   tocho
which you you rather have: Matsui LF, Damon CF and Bernie RF in the Bronx or Ramirez LF, Peña CF and Nixon RF at Tropicana Field.

those are some pretty bad outfields...

2006-04-28 16:11:44
17.   BklynBmr
15 Waldman just announced it on the radio broadcast...
2006-04-28 16:12:44
18.   Simone
I just saw that Steve Howe died. He had a difficult life and now a young death. RIP, Steve.
2006-04-28 16:13:26
19.   mikeplugh
Wow. Rios is on the bench against Jaret Wright. Talk about handing us a favor.

Rios should play every day. That kid is too good and will never build his confidence against righties if he sits against bums like Wright.

Thanks Canada.

2006-04-28 16:15:21
20.   rbj
15
Wow, that is a shame. And it seems that he had turned his life around. Of course, now we'll have to wait for the toxicology reports.

And I am pissed that the game isn't on E.I. Not even the Blue Jays feed. Grrr. It is digital cable fer cryin' out loud. And I'm in Toledo, I'm not going to impact WOR. Detroit vs. Minn is scheduled, but that is blacked out. As is the Cleveland game. And the Cincy game.
(Minor rant, in light of what Howe's family is going through.)

2006-04-28 16:15:42
21.   tocho
Franky the Yankee
2006-04-28 16:15:46
22.   randym77
Okay, I think I've seen enough of Wright...
2006-04-28 16:16:15
23.   brockdc
Bernie in right?

Check.

Wright on the mound?

Check.

Stinnett catching?

Check.

No feed from Extra Innings?

Check.

Does Wal-Mart still sell tranquilizing darts? I could self-applicate.

2006-04-28 16:17:09
24.   randym77
Look at this way. If you have to miss a game, might as well be this one. :-P
2006-04-28 16:17:29
25.   tommyl
Based on what Gameday just told me brock, you might be thankful there's no feed tonight.
2006-04-28 16:18:26
26.   mikeplugh
Wright should never pitch in pinstripes again. What reason is there. Hell, Scott Erickson HAS to be better than him.

(That was a joke by the way)

2006-04-28 16:19:28
27.   tommyl
Sooo...walk, homer, walk. Excellent! I can quite honestly say I could do better than that (I could give up 3 walks!)
2006-04-28 16:19:54
28.   rbj
I think I just may give up on this game. Looks like I picked the wrong game to quit sniffing glue.
2006-04-28 16:20:13
29.   Marcus
Wright getting pulled before recording an out?

3...2...1...

2006-04-28 16:20:16
30.   brockdc
16Defensively, offensively, or all-around? Both are brutal, but I dare ANYONE on this thread to name a current outfield with weaker arms than the ones the Yanks are putting out there tonight.
2006-04-28 16:21:41
31.   tommyl
Oh, see I was counting this game as a Scott Proctor start with about a 3 run spot to the Jays. Looks like I might be about right.
2006-04-28 16:22:43
32.   Benjamin Kabak
There must be someone better than Jaret Wright the Yankees could use every five days or so. I can't wait for Aaron Small to come off the DL. He can't be any worse than Wright.
2006-04-28 16:23:22
33.   Cliff Corcoran
I'm not a gambling man, but there are things I wish I had put money on, and Jaret Wright giving the Jays a lead before the Yanks even came to bat tonight was one of those things.
2006-04-28 16:23:52
34.   mikeplugh
30

Pete Gray

http://tinyurl.com/hz7hn

2006-04-28 16:25:44
35.   tocho
30 I meant defensively.

I would say the Redsuxs one have very limited range in all positions but at least has decent arms.

The Yanks one has a rangy CF as brockdc points out, the worst arms in the AL.

Offensively, I think it would be a tie.

2006-04-28 16:26:41
36.   Cliff Corcoran
Torre said no matter how bad Wright is tonight, he's going to give him another go when his turn comes around in Tampa on Wednesday. Basically he's giving him a Mulligan due to disuse. That should also give him time to see what Small can offer out of the pen and decide if he wants to have Small or Proctor take a turn against Oakland in two weeks (the schedule will allow the Yanks to skip Wright's spot a week from Monday).
2006-04-28 16:27:04
37.   Mattpat11
yay Wright
2006-04-28 16:27:44
38.   mikeplugh
Is there anyone not named Pujols, hotter than Jeter?
2006-04-28 16:27:44
39.   Cliff Corcoran
Incidentally, DeSalvo is struggling a bit in Columbus, as is Henn, but Darrell Rasner, who saw some big league action with the Nats last year, looks ready to make a spot start if needed.
2006-04-28 16:28:30
40.   brockdc
"It is reported that outfielders played him so shallow that shots that would have been bloop hits for most players were fly outs for Gray."

I do believe we have ourselves a modern-day Pete Gray playing RF for us this very instant. Ain't history grand?

2006-04-28 16:29:04
41.   brockdc
By the way, if Mike or anyone else has some links for me to read - I got nothin' but time.
2006-04-28 16:29:38
42.   Cliff Corcoran
The boo birds are really on Rodriguez lately. You know, he is hitting .293/.407/.533.
2006-04-28 16:30:13
43.   mikeplugh
Yeah...especially with A-Rod showin' out like that for us. Long day.
2006-04-28 16:31:18
44.   Benjamin Kabak
I also wonder if it would kill Alex Rodriguez to drive in a run now and then. His last RBI was the 23rd when the Yanks already had a 4-1 lead against the Orioles.
2006-04-28 16:31:54
45.   randym77
Holy jeez. Nice sliding catch by Stinnett.
2006-04-28 16:32:19
46.   Mattpat11
Eh, Wright started this game. All I ask is that we dont get no hit. Everything else is gravy.
2006-04-28 16:32:53
47.   mikeplugh
A-Rod is fine. No problem. He earns $200 mill so people target him, but he'll produce. Screw the boo birds.

I was thinking yesterday that A-Rod needs to be more boring, like Jeter, to give the critics less fuel to stoke the fire.

Just reply to every interview, "It's a 162 game season. I don't get hung up on the day-to-day. Let's go back out there tomorrow and win. That's all."

If he said that, win or lose, in every interview people would stop to a degree.

2006-04-28 16:33:09
48.   Cliff Corcoran
Bengie Molina makes Jason Giambi look like Carl Lewis.
2006-04-28 16:33:37
49.   Benjamin Kabak
Didn't see your comment first, Cliff, but I think the boo birds are after A-Rod because he has had no meaningful runs batting in since last Friday and came up empty a few times against the D Rays during Wednesday's walk fest.
2006-04-28 16:34:05
50.   BklynBmr
41 I'll join ya. Since no feed on the Extra Innings package, I hit Gameday Audio on my desktop. Decide to listen in another room, so I log out and fire up my laptop. Upon signing in on that, I get: "Your account has been logged in too many times. Please try again later."

Someone does not want me to hear or see this one. Maybe it's for a good reason...

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2006-04-28 16:34:15
51.   Cliff Corcoran
47 Wait, Rodriguez isn't incredibly boring? I think he's far more dull than Jeter.
2006-04-28 16:35:10
52.   Mattpat11
47 I agree. He has the uncanny ability to say the wrong/most stupid sounding thing in every interview he gives, and it only gives people ammo. You'd think he could hire a publicist or something.
2006-04-28 16:35:28
53.   Benjamin Kabak
Any other MLB.tvers having problems with the feed tonight? Mine's cutting in and out. It's really annoying.
2006-04-28 16:35:44
54.   unmoderated
...and molina just gets back to the dugout.
2006-04-28 16:36:17
55.   Cliff Corcoran
52 Are we all talking about Alex Rodriguez, the guy who plays third base for the Yankees? The most boring, calculating, inoffensive player since Cal Ripken?
2006-04-28 16:38:03
56.   mikeplugh
55

True Cliff. He's boring. But he tends to be self-depricating and it adds to people's impression of him as a failure. He says, "It was all my fault.", or, "I played like a dog."

If he'd just stick to the Jeter-isms that I listed in 47 he'd be better off.

2006-04-28 16:38:22
57.   brockdc
People who boo A-Rod weren't around in the Toby Harrah days.
2006-04-28 16:40:07
58.   BklynBmr
Of course, the Boston game is on. Rays are slapping Clement around, just scored 2 and still batting, bottom 1...
2006-04-28 16:40:15
59.   Cliff Corcoran
57 Or the Mike Blowers days. Speaking of which, Yankeeography: Tom Brookins.
2006-04-28 16:40:33
60.   brockdc
Then again, I wouldn't mind being "saddled" with a 200 mil. salary.
2006-04-28 16:40:39
61.   mikeplugh
58

I was just about to type that Bk. Great minds.

2006-04-28 16:41:03
62.   Benjamin Kabak
Alright...sorry to interrupt...how do you do the linky thing with the comment number? I couldn't figure it out the other day.
2006-04-28 16:41:58
63.   Mattpat11
55 "Look at me! I'm working out while everyone else is taking their kids to school!"

And then there was that bizarre tomato juice rant from a couple weeks ago

2006-04-28 16:42:02
64.   Cliff Corcoran
That ball four was closer to the zone than the final pitch Matsui took to end that game last week.
2006-04-28 16:42:19
65.   Benjamin Kabak
Halladay's not too sharp tonight. If Wright can keep the Yanks in the game, this may not be a lost cause after all.
2006-04-28 16:42:26
66.   Mattpat11
62 [comment number]
2006-04-28 16:43:03
67.   Cliff Corcoran
Ben, brackets: [#].

63 tomato juice?

2006-04-28 16:43:04
68.   Benjamin Kabak
Blue Jays broadcast said Bernie is 1 for his last 18. Yikes.
2006-04-28 16:43:53
69.   rilkefan
Arod has 8 RBIs in the last 10 games. The last three games he has none, and that gets him booed?
2006-04-28 16:44:24
70.   tocho
Halladay is getting squeeeeeezed.
2006-04-28 16:47:00
71.   Cliff Corcoran
i hate the hit and run
2006-04-28 16:47:11
72.   Mattpat11
"When they give you lemons, you need to make lemonade. When they give you oranges, you need to make orange juice," Rodriguez said. "[Friday] we tried to make tomato juice out of lemon juice, or something ... I don't know if that's a good quote."

It sort of went all the way downhill right after lemonade. Thats the last thing that made any sense.

2006-04-28 16:48:15
73.   Mattpat11
71 kept us out of the double play.
2006-04-28 16:49:51
74.   Cliff Corcoran
73 I think it forces hitters to swing at pitches they otherwise wouldn't (sorry Mattpatt) and screws with their timing on pitches they would swing at.
2006-04-28 16:49:58
75.   randym77
A-Rod tries to say the right thing, but you can see him trying. (Jeter is a lot more natural about it, and always has been, even when he was a kid.) And every once in awhile, Rodriguez slips, and says something that just make me cringe.

Like when he dissed Jeter. His talking about going through psychotherapy. (Not that there's anything wrong with that...but why give people that kind of ammnunition?) Then there was that threatening to sue MTV if they aired a tape of a prank they played on him. I just can't imagine Jeter doing that.

2006-04-28 16:51:09
76.   brockdc
72That kind of reminds me of W. Bush's mixing the "fool me once" aphorism with The Who song lyrics. Keep it succinct, boys.
2006-04-28 16:51:45
77.   BklynBmr
61 mikep, it sucks not being able to watch (or hear) a game you've paid to access on both services. I think I'll see how Prince Petey is doing down in Atlanta next... ;-)
2006-04-28 16:53:04
78.   mikeplugh
75

That was my original point randym77. Thanks. I like A-Rod a lot. I was lukewarm about him coming to the Yankees at the beginning, because I thought it was overkill and that he would end up a distraction.

Now, I'm solidly in his camp. He's not Pujols, in that he doesn't exude that nuclear energy, but he's one of the top players in the history of the game and you have to appreciate how much he cares.

If he would just stick to the old Jeter cliche machine, he'd be okay.

2006-04-28 16:53:41
79.   rilkefan
63 - "Look at me! I'm working out while everyone else is taking their kids to school!"

Look, can you please not repackage Red Sox snipes at Yankees players in this way? I can vaguely understand you being annoyed at Arod striking out, and I can understand people being jealous of his success and salary and the publicity he gets when he saves a kid from getting run over, but your comment is just stupid.

2006-04-28 16:54:46
80.   mikeplugh
77

Believe me, I understand. The Yankee game is on tape delay in about 3 hours in Japan so we can see the M's take on the O's. With Wright on the mound, I'd rather know now and not waste my beautiful Saturday afternoon.

2006-04-28 16:55:24
81.   Marcus
75 MTV pulled a prank on ARod? As in they "Punk'd" him? Any idea what they did?
2006-04-28 16:55:53
82.   mikeplugh
rilkefan....I think that was in response to the discussion about A-Rod not fueling the idiots in Boston or otherwise. It wasn't a snipe at A-Rod.
2006-04-28 16:56:08
83.   Cliff Corcoran
Lookit Jaret with the 1-2-3!
2006-04-28 16:56:18
84.   BklynBmr
Here's a litte more detail on Steve Howe. It happened at 5:55AM...

http://tinyurl.com/zcbnz

2006-04-28 16:59:41
85.   mikeplugh
Wow....Bk....that's a tough story. Howe actually was in a serious DUI accident earlier?! How does his family let him get behind the wheel again?
2006-04-28 17:00:03
86.   rilkefan
82 - he's quoting Trot Nixon as if Arod had said it - and if he disagrees with the snipe, I'd be surprised.
2006-04-28 17:00:32
87.   Harley
Did Howe live in Coachella? (Just got here for the music festival.) Damn shame.
2006-04-28 17:01:07
88.   rbj
84
Thanks. Sounds like he didn't have his demons under control. BTW, the picture the AP had of him was in handcuffs. There is going to be all the negative history about him, there's no need to show him in handcuffs too.

Is Wright, um, righting the ship?

2006-04-28 17:01:46
89.   Cliff Corcoran
Anyone else having Billy Martin flashbacks from the single-car accident death of Howe?
2006-04-28 17:03:32
90.   tocho
Bosux down 4-0
2006-04-28 17:03:42
91.   randym77
81 It's all very mysterious, since A-Rod threatened a big lawsuit. He ordered the tape destroyed, and apparently, it was. And yes, he was Punk'd - and was the first celeb to refuse to sign the release afterwards.

I gather it involved a restaurant, and a waiter who made some pointed comments about his always being on losing teams. I believe A-Rod said he thought it was funny, but didn't want it shown because his wife was with him at the restaurant.

Understandable...but it really played into the rumors about his being a stick in the mud in the clubhouse, who didn't have a sense of humor.

2006-04-28 17:03:59
92.   Cliff Corcoran
That's the other reason why I hate the hit and run.
2006-04-28 17:05:38
93.   mikeplugh
I'm with you Cliff.
2006-04-28 17:06:17
94.   rbj
Radke's getting lit up in Detroit.
2006-04-28 17:07:08
95.   rilkefan
71 Damn, why doesn't the universe conspire to prove me right like that?
2006-04-28 17:07:15
96.   Harley
Just watched the local news report on Howe. Veered off the road, ejected from the car.
2006-04-28 17:07:17
97.   mikeplugh
Bottom 3...Twins vs. Detroit

Radke loads the bases and gives up a grand slam to Shelton. Can anyone say...LIRIANO?

2006-04-28 17:07:48
98.   BklynBmr
85 Yeah, I don't recall hearing about that one. I guess he never shook his addictions, and naturally one wonders about what happened this morning... It's really sad.

No more Yankee family auto related fatalities, please. Three is enough...

2006-04-28 17:08:30
99.   mikeplugh
97

Sorry...it was a base clearing double by Carlos Guillen...followed by a solo shot to Shelton.....(Guillen out trying to stretch the play before).

Still....say it with me....LIRIANO!

2006-04-28 17:09:15
100.   Cliff Corcoran
97 Serves me right for benching Shelton in my fantasy league because he'd gone cold in the past week. The first day I benched him? Today.
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2006-04-28 17:10:47
101.   BklynBmr
96 Next words we'll hear: 'no seat belt' and 'three times the legal limit'... Oh, man...
2006-04-28 17:11:17
102.   mikeplugh
Three double plays for the Yanks. We're staying in it.
2006-04-28 17:12:22
103.   mikeplugh
100

I have Shelton too. He's in for me, but I was overexcited about the grand slam. Still a homer is a nice consolation.

2006-04-28 17:12:35
104.   Cliff Corcoran
That one almost got by Bernie. Still, that's three zeros on the board for Wright. Not bad. I think he's earned that Wednesday start.
2006-04-28 17:13:19
105.   Dimelo
Even though I'm a big Yankee fan, why is that I wherever Pedro is pitching - Boston or NY - do I feel so compelled to watch him pitch, anyone else feel like that? For me, he's probably the best starting pitcher I've ever seen.

Nice D there by the Yanks.

2006-04-28 17:13:55
106.   tocho
what a play there by a-rod, taking his eyes off a broken bat that's going in his direction and having the concentration of executing that DP. I've said it many times, we are very fortunate of watching this guy play every day for our team. He is something out there (off-field personality aside).
2006-04-28 17:14:09
107.   rilkefan
If you follow a group of people a while the tragedies will come - I still think about the incident at Mariano's pool, or the plane he didn't take...
2006-04-28 17:14:20
108.   Cliff Corcoran
Yanks break through here, I'm calling it.
2006-04-28 17:14:55
109.   mikeplugh
Daniel Cabrera is pitching a gem against Seattle. 5 innings, 2 hits (both to Beltre), no walks, 3 K's.

I probably just jinxed him.

2006-04-28 17:15:11
110.   Cliff Corcoran
107 It was the plane Enrique Wilson didn't take, but yes.
2006-04-28 17:15:39
111.   Dimelo
I can't believe Sheff almost hit that out...it just missed going over the wall by an inch or two.
2006-04-28 17:16:10
112.   rbj
Be careful of jinxing. 109 Next thing you know, someone will say that Halladay is pitching a shutout.
2006-04-28 17:16:19
113.   BklynBmr
My new favorite team is now leading Boston 4-0, bottom 3...
2006-04-28 17:16:56
114.   randym77
106 That was a great play. Scary, but wonderful to behold.
2006-04-28 17:18:39
115.   BklynBmr
112 rbj — please do not start that again. You know, the 'Halladay' is pitching a shutout stuff. Everytime we starting mojo'n the other pitcher when he's throwing a shutout, it works. It's almost not fair...
2006-04-28 17:18:40
116.   mikeplugh
Nick Johnson just went yard....top 1, Washington vs. Cardinals.

2-0 Nats.

2006-04-28 17:19:31
117.   Cliff Corcoran
Halladay is not getting that outside strike.
2006-04-28 17:20:55
118.   randym77
Hideki may not be hitting all that well, but he sure has been lucky the past couple of days.
2006-04-28 17:21:29
119.   mikeplugh
117 What goes around comes around Cliff. Too bad Matsui didn't see that zone a few weeks ago.
2006-04-28 17:22:26
120.   BklynBmr
117 Nick the Stick is smoking the ball so far. He's leading the NL in batting average. Wish we could have kept him...
2006-04-28 17:22:42
121.   mikeplugh
I love you Bernie...but for the LOVE OF GOD!! Hang it up.
2006-04-28 17:22:50
122.   Cliff Corcoran
Man, they almost got three tweeners in a row there.

Anyone else starting to have trouble remembering what it was like to want to have Bernie at the plate?

2006-04-28 17:24:41
123.   BklynBmr
121 What happened? Did he look 63 years old at the plate?
2006-04-28 17:25:39
124.   Harley
Quick question. Been watching the last few games on MLB. How come I'm stuck with the visiting team broadcast?
2006-04-28 17:26:07
125.   Cliff Corcoran
123 Bernie hits the weakest shots I've seen. Pitchers hit the ball with more authority. He hit a bounder over Halladay and got thrown out by Adams charging in behind the mound because he runs like he's 63 at this point.
2006-04-28 17:28:45
126.   BklynBmr
Thanks, Cliff. I pictured him flailing badly at a pitch low and away. He's still kinda making contact, so I guess that's next...
2006-04-28 17:28:56
127.   Cliff Corcoran
Nice scoop by Giambi! Is that the fourth DP today for the Yanks? Wow.
2006-04-28 17:30:59
128.   BklynBmr
Just checked the auto-update page at Yahoo sports — another DP? And Wright's still in the game. Wow...
2006-04-28 17:32:09
129.   rilkefan
Someone's favorite team's pitcher just hit Ortiz and Manny.
2006-04-28 17:32:17
130.   Cliff Corcoran
Wright's getting the job done, but: 3 BB, 0 K, barely more than half his pitches for strikes, 4 DPs. That's luck.
2006-04-28 17:33:55
131.   BklynBmr
129 That was Casey Fossum. He then walked Nixon to load 'em up, but got out of it. Still 4-zip Rays...
2006-04-28 17:35:52
132.   JeremyM
Yeah, but you know Torre lives by the saying "you make your own luck."
2006-04-28 17:36:07
133.   BklynBmr
Well, it's an offical game now, so if it suddenly ended, Halladay would have recorded a shutout. Just FYI...
2006-04-28 17:37:15
134.   nycfan
I find A-Rod a lot more interesting then Jeter. I think it's interesting that he's incredibly insecure despite being one of the greatest players ever. You can never tell anything about Jeter from the Bull Durham cliches he throws at the media. A fist pump here and there doesn't really do anything for me.
2006-04-28 17:39:34
135.   randym77
Wow. Stinnett had a great at-bat there.
2006-04-28 17:39:39
136.   Cliff Corcoran
Helluvan AB by the Best Available Stinnett there.
2006-04-28 17:41:59
137.   Cliff Corcoran
Halladay got that outside strike finally.
2006-04-28 17:43:00
138.   mikeplugh
Oh...Jeter!
2006-04-28 17:45:38
139.   BklynBmr
Just got my Gameday signal back. I'm getting a bunch of commericals... why the pause?
2006-04-28 17:45:57
140.   mikeplugh
Can't buy one.
2006-04-28 17:46:42
141.   mikeplugh
7 hits not enough for even one run so far.
2006-04-28 17:46:54
142.   randym77
Between innings.
2006-04-28 17:48:20
143.   randym77
Well, Halladay is probably done. Maybe they'll be able to get something going now.
2006-04-28 17:49:40
144.   BklynBmr
142 It came through after Jetes single... first commericals, then WCBS news content. F'n mlb.com
2006-04-28 17:49:40
145.   rbj
Wow, Jaret's thrown 22 fewer (74) pitches than Roy. (96)
53% strikes, Roy's at 55%.
Both through 5.
2006-04-28 17:49:55
146.   marc
The yanks have done a great job pushing Haliday to 96 pitches even though he looks great. If you can't beat him then get him out of the game
2006-04-28 17:50:37
147.   mikeplugh
Nick Johnson, bases loaded, RBI single.
2006-04-28 17:52:36
148.   randym77
146 Very true. Something they often didn't do last year.

Stinnett's AB was, what, 11 pitches or something like that?

2006-04-28 17:52:51
149.   Mattpat11
145 To be honest,if we're going to lose regardless (certainly nota definite) I'd rather Wright got bombed. I know this start has bought him at least another three.
2006-04-28 17:54:45
150.   Jeteupthemiddle
Well, who thought that Jaret Wright would have the opportunity for a Quality Start entering the 6th inning?

Perhaps it was luck, but I don't think so. I mean I don't think any of the balls hit that resulted in DPs were that hard hit.

He kept us in the game. Lets hope the inherited runners don't score, and we can take advantage of the Jays' bullpen.

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2006-04-28 17:54:54
151.   JeremyM
Something tells me it's going to fall apart now.
2006-04-28 17:55:27
152.   BklynBmr
@$@! I'm listening to archived news programming of WCBS news radio content instead of the live Yankee game. Gameday Audio rocks, folks, lemme tell ya.
2006-04-28 17:55:31
153.   dwight45
149 It's amazing that some so-called fans would rather have their fantasies of failure fulfilled than appreciate a good effort after a long layoff. Give the guy a break!
2006-04-28 17:58:09
154.   Mattpat11
153 I want him off the team. Yesterday. He had a couple good games last year and reverted back to being Jaret Wright for the rest of the year. I don't need to see him pitch like jaret Wright every fifth day for the next 5 months because he had one good game.
2006-04-28 17:58:16
155.   marc
hmm, TB beating Boston 5 nothing in the 5th
2006-04-28 17:58:46
156.   rbj
153
I agree. Wright's getting paid to pitch here. I'd rather see him do well and give us a chance. A bloop and a blast and we're tied.
2006-04-28 17:59:11
157.   randym77
Dammit.
2006-04-28 17:59:31
158.   Jeteupthemiddle
Well that sucked. And Jaret Wright's line all of a sudden looked a whole lot worse than what it was.
2006-04-28 17:59:48
159.   tocho
that's the game. see you tomorrow guys.
2006-04-28 18:00:15
160.   Mattpat11
Speaking of reverting back to form...
2006-04-28 18:00:46
161.   JeremyM
Damn, I did not want to be right. Proctor must have about 80% of his inherited runners score, yet he keeps coming in with guys on. Ridiculous.
2006-04-28 18:00:59
162.   rbj
Well, there goes that.
2006-04-28 18:01:38
163.   rbj
Now to Dr. Who
2006-04-28 18:02:09
164.   JeremyM
As far as Wright's line, it doesn't look much worse than it was considering he left the game with 0 outs and 2 runners on. In my opinion.
2006-04-28 18:03:14
165.   Mattpat11
161 Proctor's the same as Wright. At the end of the day, he's still the same Scott Proctor that blew games for us all last year. the sooner we identify him as such, the sooner we can correct the problem.
2006-04-28 18:03:24
166.   Jeteupthemiddle
161 actually, waswatching.com ran the numbers recently, and found that Proctor was 3rd best on the team in allowing inherited runners to score...as in he didn't do it.
2006-04-28 18:03:28
167.   marc
it's a little early to concede considering Halladay has one inning left in him if that much
2006-04-28 18:05:51
168.   Mattpat11
167 I agree.
2006-04-28 18:06:32
169.   JeremyM
Hmm, I guess perception isn't reality. Very surprising on Proctor, somehow I missed that post.
2006-04-28 18:07:50
170.   BklynBmr
C'mon, Jason! Walks' as good as a hit...
2006-04-28 18:08:19
171.   randym77
166 Interesting. Who were the first two? Mo, I assume, and...?
2006-04-28 18:10:48
172.   Jeteupthemiddle
I apologize for messing up the board allignment, but I don't know how to do the tiny url thing.

http://www.waswatching.com/archives/2006/04/in_the_spirit_o.html

Mike Myers was 1. Sturtze 2. Proctor 3.

2006-04-28 18:10:48
173.   Mattpat11
171 I'd guess Myers
2006-04-28 18:11:10
174.   Jeteupthemiddle
3 cheers for not messing up the alignment.
2006-04-28 18:12:37
175.   Marcus
171 Mussina. It actually wasn't inherited runners, but left on base (LOB) percentage. In other words the percentage of baserunners not allowed to score.
2006-04-28 18:12:59
176.   randym77
Bernie baby!!!!
2006-04-28 18:13:31
177.   Jeteupthemiddle
BERNIE BERNIE BERNIE!!!

and funny, when i saw the count go 3-1 i said "please don't swing. please don't swing. get the walk. get the walk. let cano bat."

2006-04-28 18:13:38
178.   JeremyM
Jete, just so you know tinyurl.com is unbelievably easy to use, even I was able to pull it off!
2006-04-28 18:13:53
179.   Jeteupthemiddle
175 oops. i suck.
2006-04-28 18:14:06
180.   BklynBmr
Booya Bernie!!!! Yep, this one's over...
2006-04-28 18:14:15
181.   Mattpat11
Sort of makes that top of the sixth hurt more
2006-04-28 18:14:31
182.   Marcus
Wow! Dead center to boot.
2006-04-28 18:16:30
183.   Mattpat11
Okay, we just need tohold them here and chip away in the 7th and 8th.
2006-04-28 18:16:47
184.   JeremyM
You know, they say Bernie always looks his worst before shaking it off and going on a tear....
2006-04-28 18:17:33
185.   Cliff Corcoran
So did that homer add another month to Bernie's career?
2006-04-28 18:27:15
186.   Mattpat11
Steve Howe died. Damn.
2006-04-28 18:28:32
187.   Rob Gee
185 Hopefully just two weeks. But can you really see them cutting him under any circumstances? Benching yes. An outright though?
2006-04-28 18:33:52
188.   Mattpat11
Benching him in favor of WHO? Bubba? Curveball Phillips? Pena?
2006-04-28 18:38:26
189.   mikeplugh
Hideous. Homer or nothing.
2006-04-28 18:39:13
190.   Mattpat11
189 The fatl flaw of standing around and waiting for the Earl Weaver three run homer. Sometimes it doesn't come.
2006-04-28 18:45:14
191.   brockdc
165 Definitely not the same Proctor as last year. Last year, he was simply atrocious - especially against lefties. The only pitch he was remotely able to locate was his straight-as-an-arrow fastball. This year, he's eaten up a a bunch of innings and has performed relatively well in doing so.

Jeez, I'm starting to sound like Torre.

2006-04-28 18:46:10
192.   mikeplugh
190

But this is not an Earl Weaver situation. What else could we do? Everytime we hit and run today we made outs.

The Yanks simply couldn't get even a double to score a run, let alone a homer.

Whether you play "small ball" or "Moneyball" you need to hit.

2006-04-28 18:47:05
193.   brockdc
188Kevin Thompson.
2006-04-28 18:47:58
194.   brockdc
Here come the sux.
2006-04-28 18:48:00
195.   tommyl
Proctor seems to have settled in. The guy gave up a HR, he has to give a run sometime. His ERA is still below 2 and he's eating people up since.
2006-04-28 18:48:27
196.   tommyl
Also, that HR is the only hit he's given up.
2006-04-28 18:48:44
197.   Mattpat11
191 Do you remember Bret Prinz?
2006-04-28 18:51:29
198.   brockdc
197 I have his Yankeeography.
2006-04-28 18:53:17
199.   mikeplugh
A-Rod starts it off.
2006-04-28 18:54:19
200.   brockdc
195 I'm telling you, he's improving, baby steps-like. He was flat-out sick against the Rays the other night. Then again, they're the Rays.
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2006-04-28 18:55:06
201.   mikeplugh
Pass the baton Jason. Matsui is due. Can you say short porch?
2006-04-28 18:56:59
202.   Cliff Corcoran
Didn't Matsui homer off Ryan last year?
2006-04-28 18:57:39
203.   Mattpat11
202 I think it was two years ago
2006-04-28 18:58:55
204.   marc
Matsui 2 for 20 against Ryan and usually looks bad though he does have that homer
2006-04-28 19:00:15
205.   mikeplugh
hmmmmm......c'mon bernie.....
2006-04-28 19:00:17
206.   nycfan
"The fatl flaw of standing around and waiting for the Earl Weaver three run homer. Sometimes it doesn't come"

Right, cause bunting will get you three runs. I think "waiting for homeruns" is my most hated baseball cliche. Do the people who say it even know what it means? I sure don't.

2006-04-28 19:02:32
207.   Cliff Corcoran
Bernie was safe by at least a step, maybe a step and a half.
2006-04-28 19:03:20
208.   mikeplugh
RE-tire. He giveth and he taketh away. I think the homer was one of his 9 lives. He may only have one or two left....if any.
2006-04-28 19:03:36
209.   marc
if you're going t hit into a DP then have the damn sense to strike out
2006-04-28 19:03:36
210.   Mattpat11
Dang.
2006-04-28 19:03:51
211.   Paul in Boston
Maybe he was safe, but the box score will still say that Bernie Williams, per at bat, grounds into more DPs with runners at 3rd and 1 out than any living creature in the universe. You could look it up.
2006-04-28 19:04:42
212.   mikeplugh
BTW...anyone seen Tanyon Sturtze official photo. Does he look appropriately shell-shocked in that picture or what?

The only more idiotic team photo is Cleveland's Rafael Belliard.

2006-04-28 19:05:31
213.   Cliff Corcoran
Lip reading Bernie: "Oh my God! No way. He didn't get me. No way."
2006-04-28 19:05:40
214.   Mattpat11
Well there's the white flag. And I really wanted seven games out of this homestand. Oh well.
2006-04-28 19:06:29
215.   Cliff Corcoran
I'll take two out of three. C'mon, this game was a guaranteed loss. That it's a three-run game is quite impressive.
2006-04-28 19:07:25
216.   Cliff Corcoran
Harhar. Tanyon needs to go when Small is activated. Yank him now and give Matt Smith some work.
2006-04-28 19:08:01
217.   mikeplugh
Someone throw a syringe at Sturtze....preferably a FULL syringe....he could use the juice.
2006-04-28 19:08:44
218.   Cliff Corcoran
Wow. I can't believe Joe thought this guy would be interchangeable with Farnsworth.
2006-04-28 19:09:21
219.   randym77
The Matsui moments are coming fast and furious these days.
2006-04-28 19:09:27
220.   Cliff Corcoran
Hey, Smith is warming!
2006-04-28 19:09:57
221.   Paul in Boston
Can someone, please, explain the continued fascination with Sturtze? What the f..k is the story? Does anyone but Torre think he's worth a dime? "Those are three shots in a row," says Sterling, wondering the same thing.

Get him out of there!

2006-04-28 19:10:27
222.   unmoderated
farnsworth and sturtz share the same shirt size, cliff. a penny saved is a penny earned.
2006-04-28 19:10:55
223.   Cliff Corcoran
Damon's arm just might be every bit as bad as Bernie's. Wow. His throw to Cano was dying when it got to him.
2006-04-28 19:12:37
224.   marc
I'm looking at the boston gameday now. This is getting just as frustrating. TB leads 5-2 and now Boston has two walks starting the 9th
2006-04-28 19:14:04
225.   Cliff Corcoran
I will give Torre props for yanking Sturtze after one batter last night. Perhaps that inning will push him even further down the depth chart. Maybe Villone just moved past him (I can only hope). Seriously, I want to see Smith pitch this weekend and convince Torre he can't get rid of him when Tanyon can't get the job done.
2006-04-28 19:14:44
226.   BklynBmr
Well, no shame in losing to a first place team, against their ace, no less...
2006-04-28 19:14:59
227.   mikeplugh
I can deal with this loss....but using Sturze ever again will make me absolutely homicidal.
2006-04-28 19:15:13
228.   marc
Boston lost 5-2 to TB. Nice anyway
2006-04-28 19:16:06
229.   Cliff Corcoran
One reason to get Phillips going is so he can pinch-hit for Cano in spots like that.
2006-04-28 19:18:16
230.   Cliff Corcoran
Alright Johnny, now they just need five runs without making a single out! (heh)
2006-04-28 19:19:50
231.   Cliff Corcoran
Big ups to Gibbons for going with Ryan for two innings. Just like Maddon yanking Miceli the other day, nice to see some flexibility attached to the closer role. Both times it lead to a win.
2006-04-28 19:20:04
232.   mikeplugh
Ah well. Torre contributed to that one with his lineup and his choice of awful pitchers.

Not all his fault, but we weren't in a good position to win that one from the start.

2006-04-28 19:20:26
233.   AbbyNormal821
Dear Lord - am I the only one who wonders why the hell they keep Mr. "Give Up A Home Run Every Time I Get Called Out of The Bullpen" Sturtze???? Seems EVERY single time he's giving up a huge hit, run...whatever!!! It's frustrating as crap!!!!

AAARRRRGH!!!!!

On a somewhat positive note - Jaret Wright was not too bad. And Scott Proctor...I see big things for him down the road.

Opinions???

2006-04-28 19:21:38
234.   BklynBmr
233 Torre, as quoted by nomaas.org — "I want to make as difficult as possible for our team to win."
2006-04-28 19:21:54
235.   AbbyNormal821
OK, helps if I read the previous comments made on Monsieur Sturtze...seems I'm not in the minority here! YES! Get Aaron Small back in the game!!!
2006-04-28 19:22:30
236.   mikeplugh
Don't be fooled. Wright was bad. He got bailed out by 4 double plays. If any one of those had found its way through the infield the game would have been 7-2 before Sturtze saw the light of day.
2006-04-28 19:28:26
237.   marc
The only moves Torre could have made to win was to get Tanya Harding's friends to do a job on Halladay and Bj Ryan's knees.
2006-04-28 19:30:34
238.   Cliff Corcoran
Yeah, I mean, Bernie hit a two-run homer for the only Yankee runs and Stinnett and Posada combined to go 2 for 4, you can't blame the line-up 232.
2006-04-28 19:31:24
239.   AbbyNormal821
Bernie got hosed on that call in the 8th...
2006-04-28 19:35:08
240.   BklynBmr
239 On the "DP" Bernie hit into — the only feed I got on Gameday was the local Jays station — you could hear it the announcers voice as he made the call, he knew that was a gift.

'What If' Dept: Farnsworth and BJ Ryan as the bridge to Mo. Day-um! That would have been sweet, like the old days — get a lead on the Yanks before the 7th or you're done.

2006-04-28 19:55:39
241.   Cliff Corcoran
The Ryan contract will blow up in the Jays faces before it's up.
2006-04-28 20:07:00
242.   BklynBmr
241 That's what I'm hoping. Five years is nuts for any closer not named Mariano Rivera. If I recall correctly, that was an early signing over the winter, which skewed all other deals (pricewise) that followed.
2006-04-28 20:09:58
243.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Well, consider the line up of pitchers both team trotted out I'm surprised we only lost by 5 and not 50.... Proctor was alright though I wish Torre will start using him in less pressured situations . I will give Wright at least a pass consider that I was surprised he made it out of the 5th inning with only 2 runs. But Struze... oh lord. Can we just realease him or at least see if anyone is desperate enough to take him for anything more than a bag of peanuts?

Good to see Small back in the dug out, I love Chacon showing Small off to the camera ;)

2006-04-28 20:40:22
244.   mikeplugh
238

True Cliff, Bernie hit a two run homer, but he also left 4 guys on base and hit into that crushing double play.

If Stinnett is in, Bernie should be out. There's no way Bernie should be hitting 7th in the Yankee lineup on any occasion.

It's not all the lineup, but it contributed to the loss. Bernie's homer aside.

2006-04-28 21:19:29
245.   Cliff Corcoran
244 Except he was safe on the DP, though I do agree, I'd put Bernie 9th regardless of who else is in the lineup (save maybe Bubba).

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