Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Toronto Blue Jays
2006-04-18 11:04
by Cliff Corcoran

The Blue Jays fell well short of their Pythagorean expectations in 2005 and made a number of splashy moves in the offseason, leading many to believe that they had thrust themselves into the thick of the AL East race for 2006. I have to say, I just don't see it.

Part of the reason is that I expect regression from new additions Overbay (who will miss Miller Park), Molina (who had a rather obvious career year in 2005) and Ryan (who's mechanics and disposition scream implosion to me), as well as from the returning members of the Toronto bullpen, all of whom, save perhaps 27-year-old Jason Frasor, pitched over their heads in 2006.

In addition to their normal regression, the relievers will be hurt by the loss of Orlando Hudson's defense, but not nearly as much as the starters, particularly tonight's starter, Gustavo Chacin, whose solid 2005 ERA just didn't jive with his unimpressive peripherals, and, much as I hate to say it, returning ace Roy Halladay, who is the most extreme groundball pitcher in the Toronto rotation. The second most groundball-prone Blue Jay starter is A.J. Burnett, which isn't the greatest news for Toronto fans already coping with the fact that A.J. has as many DL stays as starts thus far this year.

Toronto Blue Jays

2005 Record: 80-82
2005 Pythagorean Record: 88-74

Manager: John Gibbons
General Manager: J.P. Riccardi

Home Ballpark (2005 Park Factors): Rogers Centre (102/102)

Who's Replacing Whom?

  • Troy Glaus replaces Corey Koskie and, by way of pushing Aaron Hill to second, some of Orlando Hudson
  • Aaron Hill inherits the remainder of Orlando Hudson's playing time
  • Lyle Overbay takes over for Eric Hinske who cuts into Alexis Rios's playing time
  • Bengie Molina replaces Ken Huckaby and Guillermo Quiroz and takes playing time from Gregg Zaun
  • John McDonald inherits Frank Menechino's playing time
  • A.J. Burnett replaces David Bush
  • Roy Halladay takes back Scott Downs' starts
  • B.J. Ryan replaces Miguel Bautista

Current Roster

1B – Lyle Overbay (L)
2B – Aaron Hill (R)
SS – Russ Adams (L)
3B – Troy Glaus (R)
C – Bengie Molina (R)
RF – Alexis Rios (R)
CF – Vernon Wells (R)
LF – Frank Catalanotto (L)
DH – Shea Hillenbrand (R)


R – Reed Johnson (OF)
L – Erik Hinske (UT)
S – Gregg Zaun (C)
R – John McDonald (IF)


R – Roy Halladay
R – A.J. Burnett
R – Josh Towers
L – Gustavo Chacin
L – Ted Lilly


L – B.J. Ryan
R – Justin Speier
L – Scott Schoeneweis
R – Jason Frasor
R – Vinnie Chulk
R – Pete Walker
L – Scott Downs

Typical Lineup

L – Russ Adams (SS)
L – Frank Catalanotto (LF)
R – Vernon Wells (CF)
R – Troy Glaus (3B)
L – Lyle Overbay (1B)
R – Shea Hillenbrand (DH)
R – Bengie Molina (C)
R – Alexis Rios (RF)
R – Aaron Hill (2B)

Reed Johnson is sure to start against the lefty Johnson tonight while Eric Hinske has been spelling Alexis Rios in right against the occasional righty, much as Gregg Zaun has been doing for Molina behind the plate since returning from the DL. John McDonald is the only Blue Jay hitter who doesn't make regular starts as not even his spectacular fielding can carry his abysmal bat.

Comments (282)
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2006-04-18 15:14:25
1.   Rob Gee

Kelly at PUC (personal Unit catcher)

Matsui at DH and thus -

Bernie in LF.

2006-04-18 15:15:27
2.   Rob Gee
Oh and Bernie hits 7th, then Cano, then Kelly.

The rest you know.

2006-04-18 15:23:23
3.   Schteeve
The Yankees tend to bang Chacin pretty hard and I'm not too impressed with anyone in the Jays lineup other than Wells. If Randy's early exit last start was really just precautionary, and he's still firing on all cylinders, I think this is going to be a good game for the Yanks.
2006-04-18 16:01:54
4.   BklynBomber
Not on the Extra Innings package tonight? Nice... Hopefully, Sterling will have many opportunities to work on his HR calls...

Let's go Yankees!

2006-04-18 16:06:15
5.   Mattpat11
No Kay~!
2006-04-18 16:09:58
6.   Mattpat11
I hate when they say "such and such is a ____ hitter against a team" I don't care what Jeter did against Pat Hentgen
2006-04-18 16:13:47
7.   BklynBomber
5 Finally got my GameDay Audio straightened out, listening to Sterling/Waldman....
2006-04-18 16:14:29
8.   Simone
Nice start. Jeter's hot.
2006-04-18 16:16:02
9.   Mattpat11
That absolutely did not look like a homer off the bat. He has some power.
2006-04-18 16:16:34
10.   BklynBomber
OK, Alex!!!
2006-04-18 16:17:11
11.   Marcus
Good sign, that homer means it's going to be a blow out for the Yankees. /A-Rod hater comment
2006-04-18 16:17:19
12.   Simone
Ha. Ha. A-Rod is hot also!

Screw RJ's sucky personal catcher, Stinnett. He shouldn't even be on the Yankees.

2006-04-18 16:17:48
13.   BklynBomber
Man! What a night (so far) to be blacked out.
2006-04-18 16:18:07
14.   Stormer Sports
Was that back to back?
2006-04-18 16:18:16
15.   Marcus
Wait, I mean THAT homer means it's going to be a blowout.
2006-04-18 16:18:31
16.   Simone
Giambi!!! It's "Let's shell Chacin night." I like.
2006-04-18 16:18:52
17.   Stormer Sports

Tell me about it. No package tonight.

2006-04-18 16:19:00
18.   BklynBomber
14 2 pitches...
2006-04-18 16:19:15
19.   Simone
I can't even get the game on the radio. What is that about?
2006-04-18 16:19:45
20.   BklynBomber
Storm, this sucks! Sounds like it should be a great game.
2006-04-18 16:20:13
21.   Stormer Sports
And Gary singled to RIGHT, to RIGHT?
2006-04-18 16:20:22
22.   BklynBomber
19 Where are you, Simone?
2006-04-18 16:20:53
23.   Stormer Sports

Yea, we'll get to watch the 2-0 loss tomorrow

2006-04-18 16:21:04
24.   Rosbif22
You think it's bad that it's not on the package tonight? Imagine the package not being available in your area AT ALL.
2006-04-18 16:21:30
25.   Jeteupthemiddle
I would just like to point out that Chacin looks like an idiot wearing those sunglasses. at night. in a dome.

and yes, Sheffield singled to right to RIGHT. :P

2006-04-18 16:21:34
26.   BklynBomber
23 Exactly ;-)
2006-04-18 16:23:37
27.   Stormer Sports
Am I theonly person who thinks RJ has to post an ERA of 3.00 or below to justify adding a dead spot to our lineup? It's ridiculous. We should cut Stinnnett and add another non-white catcher, then what will RJ do?
2006-04-18 16:23:44
28.   Schteeve
Gary HOMERED to RIGHT last week if I recall correctly. He said he was opening up after he almost killed Bowa, and has been consciously trying to stay more closed.
2006-04-18 16:24:58
29.   BklynBomber
24 Now that really sucks. As bad as the NFL Season Ticket available only on the dish. Can only get my Jints when their games air nationally, which ain't too often.
2006-04-18 16:25:08
30.   Dimelo
Is anyone have problems with MLB's Audio feed from their website? I'm still at work and I want to listen to the game but it's not coming through. I've never had this problem before.
2006-04-18 16:25:16
31.   Stormer Sports
Shit, if Im Gary Sheffield, I look at my lifetime numbers, and change nothing . . . lol.
2006-04-18 16:26:21
32.   BklynBomber
30 Dimelo, did you get an automatic renewal?
2006-04-18 16:26:25
33.   Mattpat11
What the hell was that?
2006-04-18 16:27:27
34.   Stormer Sports
Did Johnny boot it or something?
2006-04-18 16:27:30
35.   Dimelo
Yeah I did. I was able to hear the day games last week fine.
2006-04-18 16:27:35
36.   Rosbif22
I was just going to ask how Johnson is pitching tonight...perhaps there is no need to
2006-04-18 16:28:23
37.   Mattpat11
Bernie and Damon have been watching too much Bubba.
2006-04-18 16:28:29
38.   BklynBomber
30 If you're on a Mac, use Safari and make sure Flip4Mac is installed. They dropped RealPlayer this season, only using Windows Media Player...
2006-04-18 16:30:22
39.   BklynBomber
35 Scratch 38, then... Are you on a network?
2006-04-18 16:30:46
40.   Dimelo
Nah...I don't have a mac...I guess I'll have to stick with gamecast. Then I don't get shit done.
2006-04-18 16:31:36
41.   Mattpat11
This game sucks.
2006-04-18 16:32:03
42.   Simone
Stormer Sports, my position has been that RJ better have an ERA of 2.5 to justify the Yankees playing the black hole behind the plate. How about the Yankees only sign Hispanic catchers that way RJ will have no choice, but to pick the best one to catch him? Asshole.
2006-04-18 16:32:04
43.   rsmith51
2006-04-18 16:32:23
44.   Marcus
Ummm, Randy is that you?
2006-04-18 16:32:25
45.   Stormer Sports
There's the Johnson we all know and love.
2006-04-18 16:32:35
46.   rsmith51
Why isn't Posada catching tonight?
2006-04-18 16:32:46
47.   Schteeve
We're winning 4-3 and this game sucks?
2006-04-18 16:32:50
48.   Mattpat11
42 What does being hispanic have anything to do with it?
2006-04-18 16:33:06
49.   Stormer Sports

That's him all right. Personal catcher and a 5.00 ERA in tow.

2006-04-18 16:33:21
50.   Simone
Yep, that homer is totally Jorge's fault... oops I mean Stinnet who is totally unfamilar with the AL hitters.
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2006-04-18 16:33:36
51.   Stormer Sports
48 Just a gut feeling I have about RJ.
2006-04-18 16:34:21
52.   Rosbif22
Hmm. So this it the Randy that's going to be here tonight...this should be interesting.
2006-04-18 16:34:44
53.   BklynBomber
No sh*t, Mattpat. I don't need this. Last night, SF Giants blow 7-0 lead, trail 9-7 and win 10-9. No time for a game like that tonight...
2006-04-18 16:34:47
54.   Simone
Mattpat11, if RJ keeps wanting the bad catchers who happen to be white instead of the best one who happens to be Hispanic, I'm totally going there.
2006-04-18 16:35:17
55.   Stormer Sports
When did Proctor pitch last? Looks like we'll need a long reliever today. Oh well Randy, you did say we pay you to pitch in October. Maybe this October, you wont punt your start!
2006-04-18 16:35:30
56.   Schteeve
I woud say that if you are going to publicly accuse someone of being a racist, you should probably have more than your gut feeling to back it up.
2006-04-18 16:36:14
57.   rsmith51
Looks like it is going to be another > 9 = win or < 9 is a loss...
2006-04-18 16:36:23
58.   Mattpat11
51 Kind of an asshole viewpoint. Johnson has given absolutely not indication that he doesn't like Latinos besides not wanting to pitch to Posada, who really isn't the best catcher out there. I just despise when people play the race card because they feel like it.
2006-04-18 16:37:22
59.   JeremyM
Greg Maddux was also racist, he had a personal catcher. Never you mind one of them was Eddie Perez, the cause-and-effect has already been established.
2006-04-18 16:37:37
60.   Schteeve
57 The magic number is 5, not 9.
2006-04-18 16:37:45
61.   Stormer Sports
54 Simone,

Randy's catcher should have nothing to do with it, that's why I'm suspicious. Greg Maddux calls his own games for crying out loud. When you're an ace like he is supposed to be, the catcher should be irrelevant.

2006-04-18 16:38:00
62.   Alex Belth
I love Glaus' King Kong cut. RJ looked awful in the first. One thing I noticed is that Vernon Wells was bailing, his front leg was completely open on that smash he hit to the wall. Yikes.

Ball is jumping tonight. Could be a long and ugly one.

2006-04-18 16:38:42
63.   marc
Randy threw 27 pitched while RJ threw 30 in the 1st. Wonder if this will end up a battle of reilief pitchers
2006-04-18 16:38:46
64.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Is there an over/under for Cano's first walk of the season?
2006-04-18 16:39:00
65.   randym77
Hey, the PUC ain't a dead weight after all... ;-)
2006-04-18 16:39:03
66.   JeremyM
And you know, Stinnett was on the same team as Glaus last season, he has to be somewhat familiar with his swing, can't blame it all on him.
2006-04-18 16:39:03
67.   Rosbif22
wow...he got a hit...
2006-04-18 16:39:07
68.   Mattpat11
54 Then I'm sorry, but I have zero respect for you. He's a racist because he won't pitch to Posada? People like you who throw the race card around like candy based on little to no evidence are screwing up this country just as bad as true racists.
2006-04-18 16:39:18
69.   Schteeve
Hey look, the automatic out got a double!
2006-04-18 16:39:27
70.   Rob Gee
Go Kelly - what a great idea by Joe!
2006-04-18 16:41:21
71.   Maniakes
For those of you keeping track at home, Stinnett now has a season OPS of .929. Never mind that the sample size is 9 ABs.
2006-04-18 16:41:41
72.   Mattpat11
59 Not only Maddux, but I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I've never pitched to a black or hispanic man. Clearly its because I hate them.
2006-04-18 16:41:41
73.   Mattpat11
59 Not only Maddux, but I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I've never pitched to a black or hispanic man. Clearly its because I hate them.
2006-04-18 16:41:53
74.   BklynBomber
63 At least the pen is relatively rested. Outside of Wright, we've been getting a good amount of 6 or 7 innings starts from the rotation.
2006-04-18 16:42:05
75.   Simone
Stormer Sports, if Flaherty and Stinnett were half way decent and playing them didn't hurt the Yankees then I'd say live and let live, but this is beyond ridiculous. People in NY were quick to jump on Minaya last season. This is the second season of RJ and this shit, it is time to ask the question of him in terms of his issues with Jorge. I'm asking and don't care what anyone thinks.
2006-04-18 16:43:22
76.   rilkefan
"People like you who throw the race card around like candy based on little to no evidence are screwing up this country just as bad as true racists."

Ack, 68, just when I was going to agree with you for once. Consider for a moment.

2006-04-18 16:43:37
77.   Maniakes
71 Correction: 6 ABs.
2006-04-18 16:44:10
78.   Mattpat11
75 Maybe he doesn't like Posada?

Nah, he clearly hates all Hispanic people.

2006-04-18 16:44:29
79.   Simone
Mattpat11, it is the Internet who cares if you have respect for me? I don't.
2006-04-18 16:44:42
80.   Rosbif22
there's also a game going on, ya know...I don't think we'll determine whether or not he's racist until we ask...but let's enjoy the game in the meantime, yeah?
2006-04-18 16:45:21
81.   Schteeve
Simone, whom are you asking? Randy and his teammates are the only ones who could intelligently answer. You were implying, and without knowing the guy, that's unfair.
2006-04-18 16:47:14
82.   BklynBomber
82 Rosbif22 is right. Take this to a craigslist forum. Let's concentrate on how our team will figure out how to blow this game ;-)
2006-04-18 16:47:33
83.   rilkefan
Can they affect the circulation of air in the dome enough to get a "wind blowing out" effect?
2006-04-18 16:47:38
84.   Simone
Ugh. Not a good way to start this inning.
2006-04-18 16:48:08
85.   JeremyM
Hey, El Duque is racist too, he and Posada used to fight tooth and nail.

Hey, I think it's ridiculous that RJ uses someone besides Posada as well, but throwing around this stuff is a little nuts as well.

2006-04-18 16:49:34
86.   Schteeve
Racist or not, Randy's got nothin' today.
2006-04-18 16:49:51
87.   JeremyM
Ugh, a 4-0 lead with our ace on the hill down the drain. I think it's safe to say he was hurt the other day and that's why he left.
2006-04-18 16:49:54
88.   Mattpat11
76 By no means am I trying to let racists off the hook, but I really think people who throw the race card around because they feel like it (Jesse Jackson, for example, well, Jesse does it to make money, but whatever) willingly try to destroy people's lives for no good reason.

On top of that it creates a boy who cried wolf atmosphere. The more people like Simone and Stormer Sports make bullshit claims like this, the less likely real allegations of racism are taken seriously.

2006-04-18 16:50:18
89.   randym77
So who's our long relief when Wright is a starter?
2006-04-18 16:50:27
90.   Knuckles
If RJ is racist, then why is he allowing the Jays to beat the crap out of the (white) ball?
2006-04-18 16:50:40
91.   Rosbif22
Yeah, Randy seems pretty toasted for tonight. Crap.
2006-04-18 16:51:08
92.   Mattpat11
What the hell is on Reed Johnson's chin?
2006-04-18 16:51:57
93.   Mattpat11
Yay, finally a strikeout.
2006-04-18 16:53:50
94.   Mattpat11
He has NOTHING tonigt
2006-04-18 16:53:55
95.   JeremyM
Crap crap crap.
2006-04-18 16:53:55
96.   pistolpete
Damn it, I was hoping for a blowout tonight - on our side, that is - so I could focus on the NY Rangers game...

I may get a blowout the other way from the looks of things.

2006-04-18 16:54:05
97.   Simone
Schteeve, I'm asking the question in general. The great thing about professional sports in my opinion is that it is a meritocracy. The best players play. If the best player at that position isn't playing due to whim of another player, I want to know why. There is too much pretense in this country that racism doesn't exist or only the Klan is guilty. Racism raises its head in all sorts of ugly forms and sticking one's head in the sand doesn't make it go away. If RJ has a good reason for subjecting the Yankees to crap ass catchers, I want a damn good explanation, especially when I have to put up with the shit like tonight.
2006-04-18 16:54:18
98.   BklynBomber
Who's warming up?
2006-04-18 16:54:20
99.   Schteeve
If Gameday's pitch location is accurate Randy is missing his spots like crazy.
2006-04-18 16:55:13
100.   Rosbif22
You think it's bad that it's not on the package tonight? Imagine the package not being available in your area AT ALL.
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2006-04-18 16:55:14
101.   Simone
Stinnett owes the Yankees 3 home runs.
2006-04-18 16:55:23
102.   Rosbif22
Wow, this is getting ugly pretty quickly.
2006-04-18 16:56:10
103.   Rosbif22
Oh, sorry about that double post right now...that was from earlier.
2006-04-18 16:56:20
104.   rilkefan
88 - I disagree, but it's an argument for another forum.

Great, back to RJ getting inconsistent and out-of-whack. Guess we're going to hear more about his right shoulder...

2006-04-18 16:56:40
105.   Mattpat11
97 Maybe he doesn't like the way Posada calls a game? Was David Cone racist?
2006-04-18 16:56:56
106.   Stormer Sports
Christ! He's toast! Get to Work Cash, and make it snappy!

I want a Kevin Brown refund for Johnson and his 5.00 ERA!

This going to be another game where he says "I get paid to pitch in October?"

2006-04-18 16:56:56
107.   vongimp
Randy is quite obviously hurt. This looks quite similiar to last year's version as opposed to the version we've had for the first two starts this year. I've seen that looping, hanging slider way to many times these last two years.
2006-04-18 16:57:08
108.   Tom Carroll
I just hope this ends Randy's personal catcher bullshit once and for all.
2006-04-18 16:57:13
109.   JeremyM
What does Torre need to see to get Unit out? Come on.
2006-04-18 16:57:25
110.   Schteeve
97 Thanks for the Racisim in America lecture.

Two things:

1) Making damaging allegations about someone in a public forum without being able to prove them is sometimes called libel.

2) This Yankee team is not a meritocracy. Not as long as Tanyon Sturtze still has an employee ID badge.

2006-04-18 16:58:41
111.   pistolpete
Well, Stinnett keeps the 7th run off the board - I guess that's...something.
2006-04-18 16:58:53
112.   randym77
Randy was missing like crazy. We're lucky to get out of the inning without worse damage.
2006-04-18 16:59:11
113.   Stormer Sports
Anyone know when and if Pavano will be back? This ceryainly puts any plans to scrap Wright on the back burner.

I don't think Johnson is hurt, I think he's just become a mediocre pitcher who can throw 120 pitches once a month.

2006-04-18 16:59:12
114.   Schteeve
And Stinnett throws out Wells!
2006-04-18 17:00:14
115.   rilkefan
110 - nobody better call RJ a poop-head and catch a libel suit.
2006-04-18 17:00:31
116.   Mattpat11
109 He's probably still the best option we have. You sort of hope that he figures himself out in the third.
2006-04-18 17:00:55
117.   Stormer Sports
Can I call him Kevin Brown without a libel suit?
2006-04-18 17:01:42
118.   Simone
Okay, don't press Sheffield, just get the rally started.
2006-04-18 17:01:56
119.   marc
with RJ having to throw 54 pitches through 2 that caught stealing can help if he can get his gangly awkward arm and body in synch again
2006-04-18 17:02:51
120.   Simone
And the rally begins...
2006-04-18 17:03:48
121.   Rosbif22
Oh, I'm not watching...I thought you were serious for just a minute...ouch
2006-04-18 17:04:16
122.   Schteeve
A-Rod clearly has bet on the Blue Jays to win this game.
2006-04-18 17:07:04
123.   pistolpete
Matsui swung at a pitch that was 3 inches further inside than the called strike 3. Unreal.
2006-04-18 17:07:36
124.   Simone
Ummm... Next inning.
2006-04-18 17:08:15
125.   Simone
For anyone watching does it look like RJ is coming back out?
2006-04-18 17:08:56
126.   Simone
Don't bother.
2006-04-18 17:09:27
127.   vongimp
From Will Carrol over at Baseball Prospectus/SI .com

"Apparently, Randy Johnson didn't think his shoulder stiffness was a baseball decision. Johnson was lifted from his start after five innings and 87 pitches, something that has less to do with his shoulder and more to do with his knees. When Johnson's knees are pain-free (or, more likely, pain-reduced) in the effective period of his Synvisc injections, his mechanics are smooth. While I do not know when Johnson had his last series of injections, his mechanics in tonight's game implied that he was due for a new series of Synvisc. If you want a key, watch the chest of his jersey. When he's right, the jersey pops out as he's about to release the ball. When he's not, his delivery is much more of a long arc that stresses -- you guessed it -- the shoulder. Johnson's quick hook was a baseball decision; the Yankees can't afford to stress his arm in this condition if they intend to win. It would be interesting to know when Johnson's last series of injections was, to gauge whether or not the lubrication is having a shorter period of effectiveness."

Compare his slider tonight with the one he had for the dominant 4 innings he had last start. Something is wrong.

2006-04-18 17:09:53
128.   pistolpete
Someone get Leiter a uniform.
2006-04-18 17:10:41
129.   randym77
They're selling Johnny Damon t-shirts in Boston that say:

Looks like Jesus.
Acts like Judas.
Throws like Mary.

2006-04-18 17:11:16
130.   pistolpete
Wow, Johnson firing on all cylinders tonight. Pitching, fielding - how ELSE can he give up runs tonight? I'm dying to know...
2006-04-18 17:11:32
131.   BklynBomber
WTF was RJ doing there?
2006-04-18 17:11:38
132.   Rosbif22
throwing error to whom?
2006-04-18 17:11:40
133.   Schteeve
Dude could someone put a tranquilizer dart in Randy's ear? What's Joe doing?
2006-04-18 17:11:47
134.   weeping for brunnhilde
Folks, that was a classic moment.

A classic.

Giambi and Johnson, the new Yankees indeed.

2006-04-18 17:12:42
135.   Stormer Sports
Better throw RJ on the shelf until August. Let's get Proctor in the rotation for a week or two. Nothing Cash could do. He came off a Cy Young caliber year in Arizona. No way to know it would be his last.
2006-04-18 17:13:21
136.   Rosbif22
what just happened?!? I'm not watching on TV...and Gameday isn't too good. It says the throwing error is on Giami
2006-04-18 17:13:30
137.   BklynBomber
No Tanyon tonight according to Suze. "Tight back", day-to-day, no DL...
2006-04-18 17:13:33
138.   randym77
Throwing error to no one. Nobody was covering home.
2006-04-18 17:13:44
139.   weeping for brunnhilde
For those of you who didn't see it,

Giambi ranged to his right threw his big mass ontop of the ball, recovered, only to throw the ball to "no one in particular," as Singleton said. Johnson was late getting to the bag and Giambi just figured he didn't want to be the last one to hold the ball so he chucked it.

2006-04-18 17:13:56
140.   JeremyM
Molina reached on an infield single?!?!? The guy A-Rod beat in a footrace and walked the ball to 1st on a grounder to third?

If RJ is hurt, this team is in big, big trouble. In other words, this team is in big, big trouble because Johnson is hurt.

2006-04-18 17:14:40
141.   Stormer Sports

Johnson is illustrating why no one but the Yankees would give him a long term deal.

Clemens, we need you!

2006-04-18 17:15:17
142.   Schteeve
The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Auntie Em! Auntie Em! It's a twister! It's a twister!
2006-04-18 17:15:43
143.   weeping for brunnhilde
...Like a fucking firecracker.
2006-04-18 17:16:21
144.   pistolpete
Wow, good thing Damon's out there now. This could be like 11-4 now with Bernie still in CF...
2006-04-18 17:16:42
145.   JohnnyC
Well at least RJ is tied for the lead in complete game losses. That's an achievement in Torre's eyes. You know, saving those valuable bullpen arms like Sturtze and Villone. Let's see what happens with Moose tomorrow after throwing 120+ pitches in vain last Friday. Is Guidry just collecting a paycheck? How can he allow this to happen: it's only 13 games in to the season!
2006-04-18 17:16:47
146.   Stormer Sports
Let's see, ERA of 5.00 last year. ERA of 5.00 so far this year. Maybe the sky is falling, at least as far as RJ is concerned.
2006-04-18 17:17:25
147.   NBarnes
Nothing Cash could do. He came off a Cy Young caliber year in Arizona. No way to know it would be his last.


His Cy Young caliber year in Arizona was his age 40 season. I hear that 41 year old pitchers sometimes decline, and sometimes decline rapidly. And I'm an amateur, you think maybe Cashman could have, perhaps should have, known the same thing? Known it before a 3 year contract extension at 16 per?

2006-04-18 17:18:56
148.   BklynBomber
This is what, the third or fourth 4-0 lead we've blown so far?
2006-04-18 17:19:05
149.   pistolpete
NY teams getting spanked by the Canadians tonight..

1-0 Ottawa with about 8:00 left in the 2nd period

2006-04-18 17:19:22
150.   Schteeve
Stormer, He's also had 2 great starts and one lousy start this season. So, maybe we should all wait and see how his next couple of starts go??? Just a thought.
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2006-04-18 17:19:26
151.   Simone
The Yankees are only 4 runs down. They can get these runs back in 2 innings, hell one inning. It isn't over.
2006-04-18 17:20:14
152.   BklynBomber
Woulda, shoulda, coulda signed Pedro...
2006-04-18 17:20:47
153.   Stormer Sports
Tell that to Roger Clemens, Nolan Ryan. Sure 3 years might have been steep, but there was no indication he would fall apart completely. At least Brown had an injury problem and attitude problem, which was well known.

Can't blame Cash for RJ, just have to get the old nogin working and figure out who will replace him in the rotation this year if he fully breaks down.

2006-04-18 17:22:22
154.   Simone
I wanted Pedro. Oh well, no do overs.
2006-04-18 17:22:36
155.   mikeplugh
Anyone see the Gameday photo of Kelly Stinnett and his grey goatee and D'Backs hat?

This is our guy everytime Randy "over the hill" Johnson pitches. These games are either lights out or unbearably hideous.

2006-04-18 17:22:58
156.   Stormer Sports

Not signing Pedro was a huge mistake. Pedro is a pitcher! RJ is a thrower, no stuff, nobrains, no success. Pedro has learned how to win with the stuff he has now. Not to mention he's great in the dugout and with his teammates, the anti-Johnson. Well, maybe Johson can sweep up the sunflower seeds like he did last year. At least earn his keep a little bit.

2006-04-18 17:25:37
157.   JohnnyC
I'm upset with Cashman but not for that reason. After all, he's not the guy who's running Bernie's under-600 OPS out there everyday like he's Barry Bonds, and playing him in the field as well. Or the guy who's managed to start...START...Cairo 3 times in a 7 game stretch...for his "enthusiasm." Or the guy who believes Tanyon Sturtze is Ryne Duren without the glasses. Or the guy who thinks Andy Phillips killed his dog. Or the guy who's trying to revive Jaret Wright's career all by his lonesome against all discernible reason. I'm pissed Cashman doesn't have the stones to fire the guy. Let George pay him the $13.5 million blood money.
2006-04-18 17:26:04
158.   pistolpete
156 Seems like the Yanks do better when they get guys like Cone or Jimmy Key - the 'crafty' pitchers who can still work out of trouble without having to muscle the ball over the plate.

Hey look, another man on for RJ. Fabulous.

2006-04-18 17:26:19
159.   Stormer Sports

Woulda could shoulda signed Wells.

Woulda coulda shoulda signed Lieber.

Woulda coulda shoulda signed El Duque.

Woulda coulda shoulda fired Cashman.

2006-04-18 17:27:23
160.   Stormer Sports

Well, Cone was a stud, not just crafty.

Hell, I'd take Kenny Rogers right now!

2006-04-18 17:28:37
161.   randym77
Proctor's coming in.
2006-04-18 17:28:45
162.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Thank god the Jays are playing small ball.

Pitcher on the ropes w/ nothing in the tank. Two men thrown out stealing.

2006-04-18 17:29:58
163.   Stormer Sports
Oh Proctor My Proctor!

We have the lineup of the '27 Yankees with the pitching staff of the '06 Royals.

2006-04-18 17:30:57
164.   marc
Can Proctor have another nice outing and give us a chance?
2006-04-18 17:31:17
165.   Stormer Sports
Johnson is so bad, I am actually looking forward to Scott Proctor, shivers!
2006-04-18 17:31:37
166.   Simone
At least, Proctor has a better ERA than RJ so things may improve.
2006-04-18 17:32:22
167.   Stormer Sports
Hell. I'd throw RJ in the pen and start Proctor until RJ is healed, assuming he ever will be.
2006-04-18 17:33:18
168.   BklynBomber
158 , 159 pistol and storm,

Hard to argue on any of those, with the exception of Cashman. I'm sure he didn't have whatever pull he has now when Petey was available. I don't know who was behind the decision to pass on him...

2006-04-18 17:34:48
169.   Stormer Sports

I hear ya! I just don't understand how you keep Lieber, then pay him, then let him go for the cost of Kyle Farnsworth! How does a GM do that?

2006-04-18 17:34:51
170.   JohnnyC
For your info, Stormer, I don't see how you can blame Cashman for two of the three items you've just enumerated. In point of fact, Wells was never liked by Torre (it was George who had the mancrush on him) and both Torre and Stottlemyre didn't want him back after his first go-round. El Duque famously bickered with Stottlemyre (and indirectly therefore Torre) to the point where Hernandez's reliance on Billy Connors was a real sticking point between Torre, Stottlemyre, and George (Tampa). Beyond not taking any of Mel's pitching advice, Torre was miffed at Duque's constant physical complaints which he saw as diva-like grandstanding, not actual injuries. Sound familiar? Check Jose Contreras. Same story. Woulda coulda shoulda fired Torre.
2006-04-18 17:36:24
171.   claybeez
For once, I'm thankful I can't see the game... I just can't get how Andy playing and batting 9th kills us when we have 8 legit hitters. Yet, we can prance out Bernie and Stinnett in the same game. Gimme a break.
2006-04-18 17:36:24
172.   Zack
Ok, please, can we stop the Randy is done we need arefund talk. This is one start, and he may be injured, or he may just be off. That does not mean Cashman needs to be fired, and that does not mean that Johnson isn't a pitcher...Stormer, give me a break. Johnson used to be a thrower, and thats why he had no control and little success. then he learned how to pitch...

Wells, Lieber, and Duque haven't done anything to warrent their resingings either. Duque has an era of 7, Wells may be done, and Lieber has an era of 9. How does that make them better than Johnson? Better than Wright/Pavano, but on the other hand, none of those are great options...

2006-04-18 17:36:26
173.   Schteeve
169 Cashman openly admitted that he did not properly judge the market for Lieber. And screwed up by not keeping him.
2006-04-18 17:36:41
174.   pistolpete
Proctor's starting to grow on me. Maybe he can be the Mendoza of the late 90's. (I hope I hope I hope)
2006-04-18 17:37:07
175.   pistolpete
HOLY CRAP - DAMON!!!! And he gets up smiling!!!
2006-04-18 17:37:41
176.   Stormer Sports

Hard to argue with that.

If Torre is who let David Wells out the door then he's a putz. If he let El Duque go, also a putz. However I just cannot understand the Lieber deal. We paid him while he was on IR in hopes he would perform, then he did, and then we let him go for peanuts.

2006-04-18 17:37:52
177.   BklynBomber
Damn! Can't wait for SportsCenter for Damon's job tonight if nothing else!
2006-04-18 17:38:39
178.   Zack
And Stormer, did you not read all the posts on how the pitching has actually been quite good this year?
2006-04-18 17:39:23
179.   atc
Alright, it's possible that Damon's starting to grow on me...a little
2006-04-18 17:40:20
180.   Stormer Sports

"Wells, Lieber, and Duque haven't done anything to warrent their resingings either."

You mean other than Duque pitching lights out and helping Chicago win every playoff series and the World Series? Kinda like what he did for us in the post season. Yea he's horrible.

And it's not one start, it's been over a year of average to below average pitching from Johnson.

2006-04-18 17:40:27
181.   pistolpete
176 Yes, but didn't Lieber want a new 3-year deal? He did well enough last year, but not looking so hot so far in '06.
2006-04-18 17:41:50
182.   claybeez
Who know what RJ will be capable of this season. But, if he's not capable at all due to shoulder/knee/back - take your pick - then Moose is our ACE. Ouch! What then? Bye Bye Cano? Wang? Posada? Sheff? Or trust the upper-level farmhands...or Jaret Wright?
2006-04-18 17:41:59
183.   Stormer Sports

Re: Lieber.

At 6 or 7 mil per, I'll take it.

2006-04-18 17:43:22
184.   pistolpete
Wow, not getting the breaks anywhere.

Is Cashman paying attention to what a strong arm in the OF can do to the opposing offense..?

2006-04-18 17:43:54
185.   Stormer Sports

I'd like to see Proctor start and RJ rest in the pen for a while. He clearly has something wrong with him that an entire off-season didn't cure!

2006-04-18 17:46:03
186.   JohnnyC
Stormer, not to defend Torre but Wells last act as a Yankee...not bothering to tell his manager that he couldn't physically pitch after one inning of a World Series start...would have been hard to forgive for anyone, much less someone who was already predisposed to hating his fat guts. And El Duque was just anathema to Stottlemyre, someone Torre felt very loyal to (but, of course, not to the bitter end, as with Zimmer). You're giving Cashman much too much credit or blame for decisions that were predetermined by George (Johnson) or Torre (Wells, Duque, Contreras).
2006-04-18 17:47:19
187.   Marcus
Stormer, tell me you're kidding when you say you'd rather have Wells than Johnson. Because then I'll laugh with you. Wells was a league average innings eater last year at best. This year he is looking at a knee injury that will render him ineffective for at least a few months.
2006-04-18 17:48:10
188.   Schteeve
Yeah, it would great to have Wells back, you know so he could be on our DL instead of Boston's. What the hell kind of sense does that even begin to make?
2006-04-18 17:48:22
189.   JeremyM
Umm, we traded Wells for Roger Freaking Clemens guys, we didn't exactly just let him walk out the door. Yes, him and Torre had their tiffs, but Torre and Wells did get along pretty well towards the end, at least according to Wells.

We are talking about the same guy who begged off a World Series start, right? Lieber was a mistake, but he is pitching in the NL now and his numbers aren't that great. I mean, I'd take him over our two big signings that year, don't get me wrong.

El Duque is a walking injury. He has flashes of brilliance, but he can never stay healthy enough to sustain them.

2006-04-18 17:49:15
190.   Zack
Stormer, last year was no average to below average pitching. Perhaps it was below Randy Johnson's previous year, but it was still a very fine year. And you can't seperate the post season from the regular season, where Duque had a 5+ era, and a whip of nearly 1.5. Oh, and as for postseason, I'm not so sure a total of 4 innings counts as helping dramatically to win every series. 3 innings in the alds, and 1 in the ws...
2006-04-18 17:52:12
191.   tommyl
Woah, is Proctor for real or is this a fluke. This is the second time in a row he's come in for one of our "starters" and been lights out. Anyone watching, what's he pitching like?
2006-04-18 17:52:44
192.   marc
If we win I guess it will all be Proctor and Damon
2006-04-18 17:53:05
193.   yankz
As much as they suck, bad outings like these happen once in a while to good pitchers.

Johnson for Wells/El Duque/Lieber? Give me a break. 172 nailed it.

2006-04-18 17:53:20
194.   Simone
Like Sturtze, it is fluke with Proctor. Don't let him suck you in.
2006-04-18 17:54:33
195.   pistolpete
193 It wouldn't be half as annoying if Schilling hadn't gotten off to the start HE did. There's another 'coulda' for the list...
2006-04-18 17:57:52
196.   tommyl
195, to be fair, both the Yankees and Red Sox ranked Vasquez above Schilling. The Yankees won out, got Javier and the Sox got Schilling. Obviously the Sox made out better, but their GM/scouting dept. made the same mistake the Yankees' did, the Yanks were just better at getting the job done.
2006-04-18 17:58:31
197.   tommyl
194, I know you're right, but the 10 year old in me wants to hope hope hope that he is suddenly superpitcher!
2006-04-18 18:00:20
198.   randym77
Proctor is pitching really well tonight. Everything's working.

He's giving them a chance. C'mon, Yanks! Let's see some offense!

2006-04-18 18:01:16
199.   tommyl
Bernie's OPS is know a whopping .547, .009 lower than Womack's from last year!
2006-04-18 18:02:50
200.   Simone
tommyl, there is nothing wrong with lots and lots of hope. LOL!
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2006-04-18 18:04:24
201.   tommyl
Thanks Simone. Now lets hope extrainnings starts I dunno, showing baseball games again?!
2006-04-18 18:06:15
202.   Schteeve
194 I'm not sure Simone. Proctor has always had a blistering fastball, the problem was he had nothing to go with it, and it was straight as an arrow.

Apparently he's learned a curve, and 2 seamer version of his fastball. If that's true, he could have turned a corner.

I wouldn't bet the franchise on him, but I'm cautiously optimistic.

2006-04-18 18:08:23
203.   tommyl
Well, lets see how he does with bases loaded and 1 out
2006-04-18 18:08:46
204.   Marcus
The real Proctor returns...
2006-04-18 18:11:13
205.   Marcus
Where did Matsui throw on that play?
2006-04-18 18:11:35
206.   Marcus
Sorry, where did Williams throw on that play?
2006-04-18 18:13:21
207.   tommyl
204, Marcus, you can't expect him to never, ever give up a run. Even Clemens last year occasionally gave up a few here and there. Lets see if he can get out of this.
2006-04-18 18:13:52
208.   Simone
Ugh. Ortiz just tied the game with the Rays.
2006-04-18 18:14:14
209.   tommyl
Gets the K! Good job Scott
2006-04-18 18:14:14
210.   Schteeve
And he fans Wells.
2006-04-18 18:14:36
211.   Schteeve
Let's get some more runs already.
2006-04-18 18:14:59
212.   BklynBomber
Time to wake up, offense! Let's start with a baserunner or two...
2006-04-18 18:15:57
213.   Stormer Sports

208 Add him to the list of couldas too. Ahh Cash, what a stud GM you are.

2006-04-18 18:16:33
214.   randym77
206 He tried to throw it home.
2006-04-18 18:16:45
215.   BklynBomber
That's a start!
2006-04-18 18:17:11
216.   Marcus
207 My faith in Proctor is growing.
2006-04-18 18:18:37
217.   Schteeve
Might this be a good time to pinch hit for Stinnett?
2006-04-18 18:18:55
218.   Simone
Stormer Sports, come on. How many 1st basemen/DHs could the Yankees have at one time? Giambi, Nick Johnson and Ortiz? Isn't that a bit too much gluttony even for the Yankees?
2006-04-18 18:19:08
219.   Schteeve
Ahhh, good call.
2006-04-18 18:20:23
220.   Schteeve
Way to the count there Jorgie.
2006-04-18 18:20:44
221.   Simone
I bet secretly Jorge is tempted to say, "nope Joe, it's my day off and I'm not just not coming in."
2006-04-18 18:20:54
222.   Schteeve
Cashmans's a total loser for letting Posada swing at the first pitch like that.
2006-04-18 18:23:11
223.   randym77
Captain Clutch! ;-)
2006-04-18 18:23:23
224.   Shaun P
Sorry I'm late, everyone. I see that the Unit didn't quite make it through this one.

At least Jorgie is back in the lineup now, right? =)

2006-04-18 18:24:00
225.   BklynBomber
OK, Cap!!! Shoot for the cycle tonight!
2006-04-18 18:24:31
226.   Schteeve
I love Derek Jeter.
2006-04-18 18:24:53
227.   Simone
The rally begins!
2006-04-18 18:25:54
228.   yankz
Wait, I can't watch- what'd my hero do?
2006-04-18 18:26:11
229.   BklynBomber
224 Shaun P,

The top of the first was fun, but after that you didn't miss anything except a few great catches by Damon.

2006-04-18 18:26:36
230.   pistolpete
4-2 Sox.
2006-04-18 18:26:41
231.   Marcus
RAL-LY! RAL-LY! RAL- oh the hell with it...
2006-04-18 18:28:03
232.   pistolpete
Someone please explain to me a) why Chacon is in there and b) why he always seems to pitch like complete sh*t in his first inning of work?
2006-04-18 18:28:46
233.   Simone
Did I miss something? When did Chacon become a reliever?
2006-04-18 18:28:52
234.   randym77
228 Jeter hit a double and scored Cano from 1st.

Which Chacon promptly gave back...

2006-04-18 18:29:09
235.   jayd
I'm glad Randy is going to have his problems early on. This will give a sense of urgency to considering the clemens/zito/dontrelle option. Get 'em all; use pavano's insurance mone.

The rsox think schilling and becket are going to win 30 games a piece.

It is disappointing though. I was hoping Randy was going to take the edge off of watching that big mouth Schilling make his comeback of the year.

4 runs; doable the way giambi and arod are.

2006-04-18 18:29:53
236.   BklynBomber
Laaaaaassst place Yank-eeeees...
2006-04-18 18:30:14
237.   pistolpete
Hey, great catch Sheff!
2006-04-18 18:30:26
238.   randym77
Crap. This is just not our night.
2006-04-18 18:31:07
239.   Shaun P
Thanks for the update 224, Bklyn! I too have Extra Innings and no game - sigh.

Reading back through some of the earlier comments in this thread has been, shall I say, interesting . . .

Ouch. There goes the Cap'n's run. Why is Chacon pitching now? Didn't he throw a couple innings over the weekend vs the Twins? Is he being moved to the 'pen?

2006-04-18 18:31:34
240.   BklynBomber
Bench Sheff. Now.
2006-04-18 18:31:51
241.   jayd
go tampa bay 4 to 4
2006-04-18 18:31:55
242.   Simone
Yeah, the Rays tie up the game.
2006-04-18 18:32:56
243.   Simone
The Yankees 5 runs down. Still doable.
2006-04-18 18:33:39
244.   Shaun P
Hey, I just figured out why the Blue Jays are doing so well against the Yanks tonight - they are starting two former Angels! ;)
2006-04-18 18:34:43
245.   randym77
I think Chacon is in the bullpen this week because the Yankees have two days off. Just a scheduling thing. He doesn't pitch until Saturday, which means 10 days without starting.
2006-04-18 18:34:46
246.   Shaun P
That's the spirit 243 Simone - this offense can come back from any deficit!

As long as Torre doesn't try to use a sac bunt with men on base and no outs, that is. Sorry - I had to get a sac bunt comment in here somewhere. ;)

2006-04-18 18:34:52
247.   BklynBomber
We're still in April and already looking for help from other teams. This is going to be a long year. Just hope the Mutts don't win 120.
2006-04-18 18:34:59
248.   Simone
These are the times that try Yankee fans' baseball souls.
2006-04-18 18:35:41
249.   pistolpete
Are we channeling the Kansas City Royals tonight or something?
2006-04-18 18:36:43
250.   BklynBomber
244 Shaun P, I was thinking that earlier (at least with Glaus)...

Thanks for the run, Sheff. Now you better hit a 3 run homer with no one on base.

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2006-04-18 18:40:51
251.   Simone
Okay, 3 runs per inning.
2006-04-18 18:41:44
252.   BklynBomber
1 pitch. 1 out. Nice.
2006-04-18 18:42:34
253.   tocho
so, where are we in the game? My gameday and MLBtv are having serious issues.
2006-04-18 18:45:34
254.   BklynBomber
253 We're 5 outs from sole possession of last place.
2006-04-18 18:45:47
255.   Shaun P
tocho my friend 253 - you may be sorry you asked that question. Hopefully not. 10-5 Blue Jays, top of the 8th coming up, A-Rod, Giambi, Matsui (DH'ing - Bernie's in left) due up.
2006-04-18 18:47:07
256.   pistolpete
Another former Angel in the game for Toronto. Looks like Toronto GM's been operating under the same philosophy as the Red Sox have the last few years - sign guys who kill the Yankees. :O
2006-04-18 18:47:15
257.   randym77
It's the middle of the 8th.

Matsui's in a bit of slump these days, isn't he?

2006-04-18 18:47:18
258.   BklynBomber
Sterling reads promo: "Yankee Stadium is the most wheel-chair accessible stadium in the majors". No sh*t.
2006-04-18 18:49:13
259.   pistolpete
258 And that's because of our starting rotation! (drum fill)
2006-04-18 18:49:36
260.   tocho
thanks for the update Shaun.

so, is it too early to panic? I know that its definitively not too early to scream and get pissed off...

2006-04-18 18:52:11
261.   BklynBomber
When did Smith come up and what was the roster move?
2006-04-18 18:52:34
262.   pistolpete
On the bright side, we're seeing some decent work out of some of the young guys - Proctor was decent and Matt Smith looks pretty good his last few outings...

Not sure what Chacon is doing lately, but if you're going to skip his start, just have him throw a simulated game on the side - don't mess with his head by bringing him in for 1 inning at a freakin' time...

2006-04-18 18:56:32
263.   randym77
261 If you mean Matt Smith, Cliff posted a story about the roster moves. It's the one before this one.

They had an interview with him on YES last weekend. He was so excited to be playing for the Yankees. He said his dad is a long time Yankees fan, and having his son on the team is like a dream come true.

He found out he was going to the majors when the told him to change his clothes. He asked why, and they said, "Dress code is different in the majors."

2006-04-18 18:56:52
264.   Cliff Corcoran
261 see the previous post for the deets on Smith. Nice inning byt the kid. He's now retired the only four men he's faced in the majors.
2006-04-18 18:57:43
265.   tocho
OK, so due up Bernie, Cano and Posada, anyone else smell a rally!!!
2006-04-18 18:58:22
266.   BklynBomber
Well, you actually begin to feel a little better when you give up all hope...
2006-04-18 18:59:00
267.   pistolpete
265 I smell something - it ain't a rally.
2006-04-18 18:59:42
268.   pistolpete
266 LOL - isn't that always the way? Something strangely calming also came over me after Damon's GS in 2004.
2006-04-18 18:59:54
269.   BklynBomber
263 , 264 Thanks, randym and Cliff.
2006-04-18 19:00:14
270.   Simone
Yeah, Bernie.
2006-04-18 19:00:47
271.   randym77
Well, Bernie and Jorgie did their parts. Unfortunately, Cano hit into a DP and Damon flied out. It's over.
2006-04-18 19:02:35
272.   pistolpete
Are we going to endure this sort of sickening feeling every April now?
2006-04-18 19:02:44
273.   BklynBomber
268 Perfect example. I recall that moment all too well... the fight is over, the resignation sets in... oh, man...
2006-04-18 19:03:44
274.   Simone
Oh well, the Yankees will get them tomorrow.
2006-04-18 19:04:18
275.   BklynBomber
Insult to injury: Sox 7-4 top 9...
2006-04-18 19:10:12
276.   yankz
Days like this just suck.

Yankees get crushed, I start Doug Davis on fantasy and he gives up 9 ER in 2.2 innings, and I bench Sizemore (who was 4-21 against lefties coming into today). Of course, Sizemore hits his first homer of the year in a 15-1 demolishing.

2006-04-18 19:12:54
277.   pistolpete
I had Clement, but I'll take a Sox loss any day over getting good stats from him. Of course they win and he doesn't get credit for it.
2006-04-18 19:13:58
278.   Schteeve
I will never understand why Torre stuck with Johnson so long today.
2006-04-18 19:32:35
279.   randym77
Both Senator Al and Joe Torre say there's nothing wrong with RJ; his location was just off tonight. Al said he thought Randy's motion looked the same as it always does, and his pitches were thrown hard...just not where he wanted them. Joe said RJ had a great warmup, and said he felt fine. Just wasn't working tonight.
2006-04-18 19:39:40
280.   Shaun P
Oh well, can't win 'em all. Tomorrow is another day!

I imagine if one goes month-by-month through the last 10+ years, one would find some down months here and there. Last April's 11-19, August of '98 are the first two to come to my mind.

2006-04-18 19:46:11
281.   tommyl
Today was not the day to be a NY sports fan. I believe every team, in every sport lost (unless the Islanders came back?).

On a plus note, Barcelona beat Milan today in the Champions League.

268, its like the warming glow you get in hypothermia right before death.

2006-04-18 22:22:41
282.   brockdc
Sure, the Yanks would've lost either way; but, under no circumstances should Bernie Williams be playing outfield for a major league baseball team, notwithstanding his pride and Joe's undying loyalty.

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