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Be Not Fooled!

2008-07-02 12:33

by Cliff Corcoran

Since stomping the Mets 9-0 in the second game of last Friday's doubleheader, the Yankees have scored just seven runs in four games. Tonight they look to break the slump and avoid a sweep against Rangers rookie Luis Mendoza.

Mendoza hasn't allowed a run since April, but he also hasn't made a major league start since April, when he posted a 9.31 ERA in three starts, all of them Ranger losses. Mendoza spent most of May on the DL due to inflammation in his pitching shoulder and has made three scoreless appearances out of the Texas bullpen since being recalled from his rehab assignment in mid-June. The 24-year-old Mendoza has made six starts in his brief major league career and never seen the sixth inning in any of them. He's also never faced the Yankees.

Opposing Mendoza is former Ranger Sidney Ponson. The Yankees signed Ponson on the day I left for my recent vacation and I was still away when they called him up to pitch against the Mets, so I didn't have an opportunity to register my disgust at the return of the player who very nearly made my list of my least favorite Yankees of the past 25 years based on his 16 1/3 innings as a Yankee in 2006.

Ponson had three quality starts in ten tries as a Ranger earlier this season, with all but two of his starts for Texas coming in May. When the Rangers released him for bad behavior that reportedly included making a scene at a hotel bar and fighting with manager Ron Washington, Ponson had a 105 ERA+, which marked the first time he'd been anything close to league average or above since 2003.

Ponson pitched six scoreless innings against the Mets in his Yankee debut this season, and could have another solid outing if facing the team that released him increases his focus tonight, but he is not a long-term solution. He is a stop-gap as the team waits for a variety of young pitchers to overcome injury, setbacks, and inexperience. That said, I'd rather have Dan Giese in the roation right now. Giese has had just two poor starts in 12 tries between triple-A and the majors this year. I'd also rather give Jeff Karstens, who is finally healthy and pitching well for Scranton (1.88 ERA in June, 3.67 K/BB on the season), or Jeff Marquez, who has rediscovered his ability to get ground balls and posted a 1.89 ERA in June for Scranton, or fast-moving Dan McCutchen (3.88 K/BB in Scranton) a shot to prove themselves in the rotation rather than have to endure watching the Fat Ponson Toad work his black magic. It pains me that we're back in this spot two years later. Three-fifths of the Opening Day rotation may have hit the DL, but that's still no excuse for employing Sidney Ponson.

Word of warning: in his last stint as a Yankee, Ponson pitched the Yankees to a win in his first start, allowing four runs in 6 2/3 innings. He was then lit up in his next outing (six runs in 2 1/3 innings) as he went on to post a 13.97 in his final four games of the season. The Yankees released him after those five appearances and he spent the rest of the season out of work. I repeat: Sidney Ponson is bad.

Melky Cabrera gets the night off tonight, so Brett Gardner will make his debut as the Yankee center fielder. He's batting ninth. Jason Giambi will DH with Wilson Betemit, who is likely to be a permanent fixture in the lineup in Hideki Matsui's absence unless Gardner starts getting on base and forces Johnny Damon to DH, at first base.

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2008-07-02 14:21:34

1. ny2ca2dc

I was fine with Ponson starting a DH game, if only to not screw with the kids, or some other insufficient explanation (meh, one game). So the only reason I can see starting him again is so they don't have to put one of the kids in against the crazy Tex offense (possibly also applicable with the Sawx and Rays). But I think that's BS (didn't stop them throwing Chase Wright into Fenway) and agree with The Cliff.

Cliff, have any plans for a mid-season or maybe ASB mini-recap of the season? You're always level headed, I'm looking for a reason to think this team shouldn't be a seller at the deadline.

2008-07-02 14:28:35

2. tommyl

Yeah, I'd agree with you Cliff. I hate, hate, hate seeing Sir Sid aka Snacks Pontoon on the mound in pinstripes. I'd be happy with Giese in the rotation. As for the kids, I'm not sure any of them are ready yet. McCutchen has been a bit up and down and seems to finally be settling in at AAA. I'd like to see him have a few more good starts and build some confidence. Ditto on Marquez. Karstens though, yeah, he deserves it, he's been here before so he knows how to adjust to the bigs and c'mon, its Snacks Pontoon!

When are Hughes and IPK due back? Soon, please.

2008-07-02 14:44:19

3. RIYank

Yeah, I'd prefer Karstens, too.

On another note, it looks like Molina got off easy:

http://tinyurl.com/4qr7mc

A fractured left testicle. Ulp. William, you'd still prefer this to getting hit on the knuckles??

2008-07-02 14:45:35

4. standuptriple

Ugh. A pitcher whom the Yanks have not seen before. Pardon me if I'm not psyched for one of "those games".

2008-07-02 14:50:00

5. tommyl

4 You mean Snacks vs. the best offense in baseball and the Yankees (or as RLYW refers to them WOE=Worst Offense Ever) against an URP? C'mon, what could possibly go wrong here? Its too bad I'll be out to dinner with my friend in from LA. Oh well.

2008-07-02 14:51:23

6. Mattpat11

Where does Pavano rank on that list now?

2008-07-02 14:53:15

7. Cliff Corcoran

3 That happened to Carlton Fisk back in the day as well and was the first thing I thought of when I saw that play.

That was an entertaining moment at the bar at Monday's BP get-together. Everyone has one eye on the game, and they see Molina get hit by a pitch and roll around on the ground. One guy next to me says "oh man, I think he got that on the wrist." Someone else thought he was hit somewhere else mundane. Just as YES begins to throw to the replay I say, "I don't know guys, it looked to me like he got it right in the . . ." at which point the replay shows, in slow motion, exactly where that unencumbered fastball hit Molina and the entire bar lets out a collective "ooooohhh!" of emphatic pain.

"Yeah. That's what I thought."

2008-07-02 14:54:00

8. Cliff Corcoran

5 Yeah, I've got play tickets.

2008-07-02 14:54:16

9. tommyl

BTW, I posted this at the end of an earlier thread but currently Melky is sporting an EQA and VORP below that of both Wilson Betemit and Chad Moeller. He's hitting worse than our backup backup catcher. He's currently 13 of 14 CF in VORP in the AL (min 200 PA). Yikes that's bad.

2008-07-02 14:56:16

10. tommyl

6 134th

2008-07-02 14:58:26

11. standuptriple

5 ,8 I've got tix to the Giants/Cubbies, but that's not until 7 PST. What can I do that does not involve the office or the Yankees until then?

2008-07-02 14:59:56

12. Bama Yankee

10 Nice.

2008-07-02 15:01:08

13. Jeb

Ponson's pretty much garbage, but maybe he'll get fired up to play against the team that released him and made some not-too-quiet comments about what a dope he is. (Of course, depending on what happened during "the incident" the Rangers might be more fired up).

2008-07-02 15:02:39

14. Jeb

11 watch Omega Man on Youtube? It has a connection to the Yankees because it's a disaster movie.

2008-07-02 15:05:51

15. Bagel Boy

I can't see how/why they swapped Gardner for Christian unless it's because the former was meant to be a starter while the latter was meant to be a fill-in OF. That interpretation could hedge closer to their plan for Gardner - they seem to want him getting ABs regardless of the level. Time to send Melky for re-education in AAA?

2008-07-02 15:13:56

16. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

guess we just need that "Mystique & Aura" back again, according to Buster Olney's latest blog...God, is that nonsense going to be the new "Curse of the Babe" reference until the Yanks win again? (i.e. annoying, non-issue that the media obsesses over?)

2008-07-02 15:26:36

17. monkeypants

15 Christian was only called up b/c he's a righty and they were facing a number of LHP. I agree that Melky needs ABs as well, so they should think of sending him to AAA and call up another BUOF, whether it is Christian or Lane.

Unfortunately, Duncanstein hurt his shoulder the other day.

2008-07-02 16:08:09

18. tommyl

16 I keep telling you, they work at Scores!

2008-07-02 16:10:29

19. standuptriple

Yahoo! is using a picture of Ponson in a Twins cap w/mullet. Shave those sideburns!

2008-07-02 16:14:29

20. RIYank

Sid is just a dominant pitcher. He's easily holding the league's best-hitting team in check.

2008-07-02 16:19:43

21. rbj

I think I'd rather see Chacon in pinstripes than Fudgie the Whale.

2008-07-02 16:20:29

22. RIYank

Am I right that Mendoza has only one pitch, a four-seam fastball that tops out at about 90mph?

2008-07-02 16:22:36

23. Yankees Brasil

22 They said something about him getting many GB, so I'd think he throws a sinker also.

2008-07-02 16:25:05

24. RIYank

That makes sense -- anyway it's been true so far. I can't discern the difference by eye, but Gameday shows the PfX bigger than the Break, which I assumed meant it couldn't be a sinker. But I have little confidence in that assumption.

Ponson continues his domination.

2008-07-02 16:26:09

25. cult of basebaal

24 better to be lucky than good, at least in small sample sizes ...

2008-07-02 16:26:25

26. Yankees Brasil

Well, hopefully whatever he throws will get crushed from now on.

2008-07-02 16:29:47

27. RIYank

Rays with a 2-out rally against Dice-K.

2008-07-02 16:32:54

28. SF Yanks

Tonight is one of those Yankee games where I just can't get excited. They're coming off a bad stretch, they already lost the series, and if they lose this game it's even worse. But if they win, like they should tonight, then whoopty do, they finally won a game. It's actually sorta tough to explain in words. Anyone know what I mean?

2008-07-02 16:33:52

29. RIYank

Don't cha know!

2008-07-02 16:34:34

30. RIYank

28 Absolutely.

But I have a kind of abstracted interest this evening, not a fannish kind.

2008-07-02 16:34:38

31. cult of basebaal

DA RIPPER!!!

2008-07-02 16:34:54

32. Yankees Brasil

Nice one Robbie!

2008-07-02 16:35:15

33. SF Yanks

So who's rooting for Boston tonight? I think I might have to....well, maybe not. Tough call.

2008-07-02 16:35:31

34. rbj

28 Yup.

Hey, another 2 out rbi hit! Yanks had one of those last night too.

2008-07-02 16:36:02

35. cult of basebaal

28 30 then root for something good for the future, like gardner going 4-4 with 3 steals and OF assist!

2008-07-02 16:37:28

36. standuptriple

33 Can't do it. Ever. On principle.

2008-07-02 16:37:42

37. cult of basebaal

33 i'll root for al qaeda, hitler, the bubonic plague and dane cook before i'll root for the red sox ...

2008-07-02 16:37:50

38. SF Yanks

35 I can definitely hop on board that train!

2008-07-02 16:38:33

39. Yankees Brasil

1 for 2 with RISP, looks good so far!

2008-07-02 16:38:36

40. RIYank

33 Nope. Can't do it. I'll take the Wild Card, thanks.

2008-07-02 16:39:19

41. SF Yanks

37 Wow, you're going a bit far with that one. Dane Cook?

2008-07-02 16:39:29

42. rbj

33 If Boston were in last place, playing the Orioles or Blue Jays, and the Yankees were say a game behind either of those two, then possibly I could roo---, er not want Boston to los--, do badly against that team. Tampa, I can't even get worked up about. Better they win than Boston.

2008-07-02 16:39:45

43. ny2ca2dc

37 Stop at Dane Cook!

2008-07-02 16:41:13

44. nick

40 if we want the WC I think we're gonna have to finish ahead of Boston (and Oakland, and the Twinkies, and....)

2008-07-02 16:42:07

45. RIYank

44 Exactly. That's why I can root against Boston. Get it?

2008-07-02 16:42:14

46. SF Yanks

43 Root beer please!

2008-07-02 16:43:05

47. rbj

I think I could root for Dane Cook -- getting a testicular fracture.

2008-07-02 16:44:21

48. RIYank

No fair hitting bloop singles against Sid. You're supposed to hit screaming line drives to outfielders.

2008-07-02 16:44:55

49. dianagramr

Ponsonomas anyone?

2008-07-02 16:45:41

50. RIYank

I sense the dominance beginning to wane.

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2008-07-02 16:46:23

51. cult of basebaal

there's the snacks we know and loathe!

2008-07-02 16:46:23

52. williamnyy23

Here's the Sydney that I recognize.

2008-07-02 16:46:41

53. rbj

Ah, now that's the Sidney we all know and hate.

2008-07-02 16:46:44

54. Yankees Brasil

This sucks. Two bloopers and all of a sudden the lead is gone.

2008-07-02 16:46:47

55. dianagramr

that was a good pitch .... kudos to Hamilton.

2008-07-02 16:46:48

56. SF Yanks

This Pontoon fella is pretty darn good........NOT!

2008-07-02 16:46:49

57. cult of basebaal

52 heh. you owe me a coke!

2008-07-02 16:47:18

58. rbj

51 , 52 Stewarts Cream soda.

2008-07-02 16:47:35

59. cult of basebaal

52 you can get one from 53 and pass it along!

2008-07-02 16:47:49

60. RIYank

The make-believe was fun, while it lasted.

2008-07-02 16:47:54

61. rbj

57 Dang, just a bit too slow on the keyboard.

2008-07-02 16:48:02

62. nick

i'd almost like them to get 6 or 7 in this inning so I could just quit....

2008-07-02 16:48:20

63. cult of basebaal

that was just good hitting, not a bad pitch from Pontoon.

2008-07-02 16:48:52

64. dianagramr

nobody ever put a toothbrush on my chair, unless they were making a comment about my breath ....

2008-07-02 16:49:45

65. cult of basebaal

64 wha???

2008-07-02 16:50:34

66. Jeb

21 "fudgie the whale"...carvel ice cream stores?

2008-07-02 16:50:51

67. dianagramr

it was a commercial on the YES broadcast

2008-07-02 16:51:28

68. williamnyy23

28 I think that sentiment is perfect. At some point, the Yankees will win a game because they aren't terrible, but it is getting hard to be excited for these games.

2008-07-02 16:51:54

69. dianagramr

I like Gardner .... can we keep him dad ... huh .... can we keep him?

2008-07-02 16:53:30

70. nick

tell me Gardner doesn't look overmatched up there, somebody--I need to accentuate the positive...

2008-07-02 16:54:15

71. rbj

66 A-yup. Always had a Carvel ice cream cake on my birthday.

2008-07-02 16:54:19

72. williamnyy23

70 He has a good eye, but I can't say I've seen a good swing yet.

2008-07-02 16:55:29

73. Yankees Brasil

I don't know how it looks on gameday, but it seems like Mendoza leaves a lot of pitches on the middle of the plate.

2008-07-02 16:56:02

74. dianagramr

Girardi will have Abreu bunt here (I kid I kid)

2008-07-02 16:56:57

75. Emma Span

Hey gang, I'll be your recapper tonight.

I'm getting concerned that people don't like reading about all these losses, though. So I'm thinking about just writing a nice positive description of a win, no matter how the team actually does tonight. Thoughts?

2008-07-02 16:58:03

76. williamnyy23

What an awful play to tag up there.

2008-07-02 16:58:24

77. dianagramr

75
hmmmm .... could you do it MadLibs style .... where we can enter in nouns, verbs and such?

2008-07-02 16:58:26

78. rbj

Aw crap, just lost the satellite signal thanks to the storm here in Toledo.

2008-07-02 16:59:11

79. cult of basebaal

what the fuck is jeter still doing at first???

2008-07-02 16:59:23

80. OldYanksFan

THANK GOD IT WASN'T HIS RIGHT TESTICLE!

2008-07-02 17:00:10

81. Jeb

75 Emma, I really like Eephus Pitch.

2008-07-02 17:05:41

82. dianagramr

so much for .174 with RISP

2008-07-02 17:05:51

83. rbj

Oh Yes! A Giambombi!

2008-07-02 17:06:56

84. cult of basebaal

'STACHE SMASH!
'STACHE SMASH!!
'STACHE SMASH!!!

2008-07-02 17:06:59

85. standuptriple

Uh oh. Now Hank is really going to think he played a part in this.

2008-07-02 17:07:00

86. Yankees Brasil

Niiice!

2008-07-02 17:08:09

87. OldYanksFan

Gotta Luv the Big Lug. Yankee MVP.

2008-07-02 17:08:48

88. Start Spreading the News

82 Now it is .175! While the Giambino homer was great, a two run lead with Ponson pitching is not safe. The Yanks need to rake tonight.

2008-07-02 17:08:58

89. Jeb

85 I don't care if Hank records motivation audio cassettes for the team to listen to, as long as they win....

Hell, William and I will record a motivational tape for them!

2008-07-02 17:09:22

90. williamnyy23

85 Hank's comments were pretty mild. I also don't think that rally constitutes a break out. With Ponson on the mound, they likely are going to need one.

2008-07-02 17:10:43

91. standuptriple

89 Is that like swapping greenie'd coffee with Folgers crystals?

2008-07-02 17:11:31

92. nick

now it's up to the fat knight to make this lead stand up!

2008-07-02 17:11:50

93. Emma Span

77 I like it. The Yankees [verb] to an [adjective] team thanks to [crude term for an overweight pitcher]...

81 Thanks!

2008-07-02 17:12:19

94. Yankees Brasil

Beautifully turned.

2008-07-02 17:13:14

95. nick

you know, he's probably a terrible human being, but at least he's throwing strikes...

2008-07-02 17:15:34

96. Mr OK Jazz TOKYO

Off topic- watched the Hanshin Tigers beat the Chunichi Dragons on tv lst night. Tigers won on a "sayonara" game-winning double in the rain, mass pandemonium ensued. (Tigers fans are more intense than southern college football fans). As the team celebrated, the losing pitcher for the Dragons walked off the field, turned around at the dugout and bowed to the field, cap in hand. All with the saddest look on his face. The culture is so different, but baseball is baseball and the emotions are the same. What a game it is!!

2008-07-02 17:15:34

97. williamnyy23

That's wrong...Terry Francona has won four post season games at Yankee Stadium.

2008-07-02 17:16:39

98. williamnyy23

When did it become ok to jog to first base?

2008-07-02 17:17:50

99. cult of basebaal

singleton, .250 was respectable when you played but not for the last 15 years ...

2008-07-02 17:21:00