Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
My 25 Least Favorite Yankees of the Last 20 Years
2006-06-22 19:48
by Cliff Corcoran

Inspired by Catfish Stew, here's a list of my least favorite Yankees from the last twenty years:

25. Tim Stoddard Stoddard was 6'7", 250 pounds and looked like Wally Walrus from the Woody Woodpecker cartoons. What's not to like about that? Well, Wally was the bad guy in those cartoons and Tim posted a 6.38 ERA out of the Yankee pen in 1988 earning his release that August. Worse yet, Stoddard was all the Yankees managed to get in return for Ed Whitson, who would surely make this list if I extended it back further. Just a series of unpleasant memories there.

24. Xavier Hernandez The Yankees began to turn things around in 1993 with the additions of Paul O'Neill, Jimmy Key and Wade Boggs. Going into 1994, Hernandez was supposed to be part of the solution as a young (28) rubber armed reliever who had just turned in two excellent seasons for the Astros. Plus his name started with an X. How cool is that? Turns out his arm wasn't really made of rubber after all and those 207 2/3 innings over two seasons in Houston resulted in a 5.85 ERA in his lone season for the Yanks, which was itself cut short by injury in late July. I suppose I should have blamed Houston manager Art Howe, but I was less enlightened then. Speaking of which, it didn't help that the Yanks dealt no-hit fan favorite Andy Stankiewicz ("Stanky the Yankee") to get Xavier.

23. Rich Dotson One of many Stump Merrill-era hurlers on this list (a term I use for those lean late-'80s, early '90s years regardless of whom the manager was, Dotson, for instance, never actually pitched for Merrill). The Yankees sent fan favorite Danny Pasqua to the White Sox in the deal to acquire Dotson. In his only full year with the Yanks, Dotson posted a 5.00 ERA (79 ERA+ in those days) and things got so bad the following season he was released in June . . . only to resign with the White Sox! It was a trick! We wuz robbed! Dotson, of course, pitched better for the Chisox over the remainder of the 1989 season than he ever had for the Yankees, but at least he had the decency to burn out after that. Oh, it bears mentioning that Dotson wore his hat high on his head so it boxed up in front. Some players can pull that off. Dotson couldn't.

22. Terry Mulholland Believe it or not, the Yankees were just Mulholland's third team, though he was already in his early thirties back in 1994. Mulholland's offenses are similar to Hernandez's. Thought to be part of the solution in 1994, he was so very much part of the problem, struggling to stay in the rotation and posting a 6.49 ERA, which remains his worst single season ERA more than a decade later.

21. Randy Keisler With his jug-handle ears and bulging eyes, Keisler looked ready to crap himself on the mound and when he pitched like crap he had the nerve to bitch about being sent back to Columbus. Normally I'd sympathize with a young player's gripes about getting a fair shot with Steinbrenner's Yankees, but a) keep your mouth shut rook and make your statements on the field and b) Keisler, who made his major league debut at age 24, was such a hot prospect the Yanks just flat released him after he missed the 2003 season due to injury.

20. Carl Pavano I was ready to like Pavano despite the ridiculous contract the Yankees gave him, but once what was supposed to be a minimum DL stay last June turned into a full calendar year of inaction amid rumors of the Yankees questioning Pavano's fortitude, he'd hung himself with the rope I was prepared to give him. He'd rank higher, but there's still time for Meat to redeem himself.

19. Todd Zeile The Yankees never needed Zeile, but he was one of Torre's old Cardinal pets. He played far more than he ever should have, didn't hit, and then had the nerve to complain he wasn't playing enough. Then when the Yankees picked up Aaron Boone, they kept the useless Zeile on the roster and dealt Robin Ventura only to release Zeile just weeks later. I'm still convinced Ventura could have tipped the balance in the 2003 World Series as a pinch-hitter for Boone, whom well get to later, and I blame Zeile for his having been dealt. And yes, I'd trade Bubba and Scott Proctor for a 2003 World Championship banner in half a heartbeat.

18. Tony Womack Some might think he's ranked a bit low here, but I had a hard time disliking Womack despite his futility. Despite doing just the opposite with the majority of this list, I never blamed Womack for his lack of production, but rather blamed those who employed him for giving him those opportunities to fail. It was only late in the 2005 season and early this year when, as a member of the Reds, he began to complain that the Yankees stole a year of his career that I turned on Tony Mowack.

17. Jose Contreras I'd be harder on Contreras if not for all of the personal drama he was experiencing as a member of the Yankees. For those who forget, Contreras defected from Cuba expecting to be able to extract his family rather easily, but wound up having to wait a year and a half, unsure during that time if he would ever see his wife and daughters again. Barely more than a month after he was reunited with them, the Yankees traded him to the White Sox. Still, during those few hours between the lines every five days was it really that hard for him to throw a freaking fastball? Unwilling to trust his stuff (and possibly tipping pitches), Contreras frustrated the Yankees to such a degree that they traded him straight up for Esteban Loaiza simply to get rid of his contract. Prior to that he became my least favorite pitcher to watch throw. Even now as he's dominating with the White Sox (of course), I can't watch him. The deep creases on his thick, leathery face still look to me like they're coated in flop sweat, and his habit of jamming the baseball deep into his mitts, preparing for a split finger fastball that rarely lived up to its billing in pinstripes, just brings the whole ordeal rushing back. The nadir for me was in Game 5 of the 2003 World Series. Yes, David Wells punted the start, but it was Contreras who let things get out of hand. Now, of course, he's wearing a World Series ring with the White Sox and the Yankees are stuck with the Evil Empire tag that resulted from the petty bickering with the Red Sox that surrounded his signing. Heck, let him dominate with the Sox, I'm just glad I don't have to watch him anymore.

16. Hideki Irabu The Fat Pussy Toad was actually a helpful member of the 1998 Yankees (110 ERA+ in 28 starts), yielded three solid arms in a dump trade two years later (Lilly, Westbrook and Zach Day), and had the decency to suck after being dealt. But unlike Contreras, who very well may be a decent guy, Irabu was a stone cold schmuck. Plus hype minus results equals contempt.

15. Felix Heredia The Run Fairy had his one shining moment, striking out David Ortiz with the bases loaded in the seventh inning allowing the Yankees to rally from an 0-2 deficit to beat the Sox 4-2 the night before Jeter took his dive into the stands, but otherwise he lived up to his nickname.

14. Scott Erickson Okay, so it was just 11 1/3 innings, he's been released and it just happened so I'm probably overreacting, but . . . grrrrrrr. The only reason this man wasn't forced into retirement three years ago is that he has The Face. Good ugly players are fun, but bad pretty ones are maddening.

13. Jay Witasick The Yanks were desperate for relief help in 2001, so they picked up Witasick, who had a 1.86 ERA with the pre-Petco Padres. He finished the year by posting a 4.69 mark as a Yankee. Then there was his postseason performance: 21.60 ERA in five innings. Oh, and did I mention the wispy moustache? Ewwww.

12. Walt Terrell Walt Terrible nearly ruined my first game at Yankee stadium by outdueling Rich Dotson (thankfully Claudell Washington played the hero). He later wormed his way over to the Yankees and posted a 5.20 ERA in a half season. But that's not the worst of it. The Yankees sent Mike Pagliarulo to the Padres for Terrell. Pags! Yeah, sure, Pags had turned into an out machine, and in fact had always been one, but those Yankee teams weren't going anywhere and Pags was a top-notch character. He was the rare American-born player who wore number 13, played some thrilling defense at the hot corner, was the guy Billy Martin forced to bat from the wrong side of the plate, and did some flat out awesome commercials for Yankee Stadium promotion days in his thick Medford, Mass accent, which given his I-talian last name and Mattingly-like cop-stache could easily be misheard as Brooklyn by young ears. Pagliarulo #13 is on my short list of desired custom Yankee t-shirts and thus Walt Terrell is #12 on my list of least favorite Yankees. At least Pags went on to win a ring with the Twins.

11. Juan Acevedo Acevedo joined the Yankees after recording 28 saves for the Tigers and fancied himself a legitimate understudy to Mariano Rivera. An early 2003 DL stay by Rivera gave Acevedo a chance to let his arm do his talking and he responded with a 7.71 Yankee ERA, culminating with his ruining an absolutely classic Game of the Week confrontation between Roger Clemens, going for his 300th win for the first time, and Kerry Wood at Wrigley Field by turning a 1-0 Yankee lead into a 1-3 deficit with one pitch to Eric Karros, earning his release four days later.

10. Greg Cadaret Ahead of Pagliarulo #13 on my custom t-shirt list is #24 Rickey Henderson. Cadaret was part of the trio the Yankees took in return for a 30-year-old Rickey in 1989. I resented all three at the time, but Eric Plunk and Luis Polonia at least displayed some modicum of talent. Caderet, with his odd, rodent-like overbite and moustache, earned the bulk of my distain. Looking back, his stats aren't as bad as memory would suggest, but I think the fact that he hung around for 188 games and 439 innings, more than all but two men on this list, which also synched up exactly with the worst of the Yankees' dark years (1989-1992) made things seem worse than they actually were. Still, it felt like he not only pitched in every game I saw over that span, but blew the lead in each one as well.

9. Kevin Brown Brown actually pitched reasonably well when healthy (daaaa!) in his first year in pinstripes, but he sure was sullen about it. Then, after what was actually a solid start against the Orioles on September 3, he punched a cinder block wall in the Yankee clubhouse out of frustration (the Yanks had given him a 1-0 lead after the first and he gave up three unanswered runs over the next five innings), breaking his glove hand. That cost him three weeks down the stretch. He then tanked his comeback game against the Red Sox, but a solid outing in the season's penultimate game earned him a spot on the playoff roster. He then turned in a solid outing to win Game 3 of the Yankees ALDS romp over the Twins, but tanked against the Sox again in Game 3 in the ALCS only to be bailed out by 19 Yankee runs.

That's when things went from bad to worse. After the Red Sox rallied to avoid a sweep in Game 4, won an extra-inning marathon in Game 5, and rode Curt Schilling's ketchup stains to a tied series in Game 6, Brown let his pride get in the way, telling Joe Torre he was healthy enough to start the double-elimination Game 7 despite having appeared to have been in extreme discomfort in Game 3. He lied, getting the hook from Torre in the second inning of that game having already handed the Red Sox a 2-0 lead and leaving the bases loaded in his wake.

The next year his bad back robbed him of what little value he had before the wall-punching incident as he posted a 6.50 ERA in just 13 starts on a $15 million salary.

Plus he was universally regarded as a complete and utter ass. The only reason he's not higher on this list is because he directed his abuse at himself, not those around him.

8. Jeff Weaver When the Yankees traded Ted Lilly and others for Jeff Weaver, I though it was a good idea. Weaver was younger and had more major league experience. When he struggled in his first half season with the Yankees (and to be fair, he did post a 108 ERA+ while being jerked between the rotation and bullpen) I had faith he'd straighten it out in his first full season in the Bronx.

Then came 2003. Weaver just couldn't cut it and to make matters worse, he sulked on the mound when his slop got smacked around the park. His routine was infantile and suggested that Weaver though that something other than the weak stuff he was throwing toward the plate was to blame for his struggles, as if his fielders and the universe as a whole had conspired against him. The end result was a 5.99 ERA and a spot deep in Joe Torre's dog house.

Weaver didn't throw a single pitch in the playoffs that year, making it all the more perplexing when Joe Torre selected him over Mariano Rivera in extra innings in Game 4 of the World Series. It wasn't Weaver's fault that he wound up losing that game after having pitched since the regular season, but when Alex Gonzalez's game winner landed on the other side of the left field fence in Pro Player Stadium, you knew that was Weaver's last pitch as a Yankee, and I don't think you could find a single Yankee fan who was disappointed to see him go.

7. Andy Hawkins A 29-year-old free agent addition to the 1989 Yankees, Hawkins was brought in to be the ace of a team that had finally sent Ron Guidry and Tommy John out to pasture. Instead, he posted a 4.80 ERA (81 ERA+ in those days), which would be his high water mark in pinstripes. As an encore he contributed perhaps the defining moment of those lean years for the pinstripers, an eight-inning no-hitter in old Comisky Park which, thanks to two walks and three errors, he and the Yankees lost by a tally of 4-0. It was the largest margin of defeat for a team that had not allowed a hit and a year later Major League Baseball ruled that no-hitters had to last a minimum of nine innings, wiping the embarrassment from the record books. Hawkins lasted just three starts in 1991 and departed the Yankees with a 5.21 ERA across his three seasons.

6. Tim Leary The Yankees got the 31-year-old Leary from the Reds prior to the 1990 season for Hal Morris, who would go on to hit .305/.362/.436 and play sparkling defense over the ensuing decade, and would be the starting first baseman for the World Champion Reds that year. Leary meanwhile went 9-19 in his first year with an admittedly terrible Yankee team, following that with a 6.49 ERA in 1991. The next year he was caught on the mound discarding a piece of sandpaper which he must have used to get his ERA up to a sparkling 5.57. According to Joel Sherman's Birth of a Dynasty, Buck Showalter jokingly offered then-GM Gene Michael sexual favors to make Leary go away. That August Leary was dealt to the Mariners for minor leaguer Sean Twitty. Going back to Sherman: "In 2 1/2 seasons as a Yankee, Tim Leary produced the worst winning percentage (.340) and second worst ERA (5.12) ever by a Yankee pitcher with at least 400 innings pitched." At the time Leary's 5.12 was actually the worst ever as eventual title-holder Sterling Hitchcock (5.15) had yet to make his major league debut.

5. Aaron Boone Yeah, he hit that home run, but I'm convinced that someone else (Robin Ventura!) would have had Boone not been given the chance. Meanwhile, Boone hit .170/.196/.302 in the 2003 postseason with that home run included, and I blame him more for the Game 4 loss in that year's World Series than I do Jeff Weaver.

The Yankees trailed 3-1 going into the ninth inning of that game. With one out, Bernie singled, Matsui walked, Jorge replaced Matsui via a fielders choice pushing Bernie to third. Down to their last out, Ruben Sierra delivered a game-tying pinch-hit triple (still wonder why Big Ru's not on this list?). With Sierra standing on third as the winning run, Boone swung at five straight pitches, fouling off the first four and grounding out to end the inning on the fifth. Two innings later, score still knotted at 3-3, Bernie leads off with a double, Matsui walks, David Dellucci bunts them up to second and third and pinch-hitter Juan Rivera is intentionally walked to load the bases for Boone, who with just one out can give the Yankees the lead with a walk or a variety of balls in play. Again, Boone swings at the first three pitches, fouling two off to fall into an 0-2 count. He then takes ball one and swings three more times, foul, foul, strike three. John Flaherty pops out to end the inning and the Yankees lose in the twelfth on the home run surrendered by Weaver. Then, for yucks, he and Enrique Wilson botch a rundown play in Game 5 that leads to two runs in a game the Yankees lose by exactly that many.

And no he doesn't get credit for being stupid enough to violate his contract and blow out his ACL all in one move, thus clearing the way for the Rodriguez-Soriano deal.

4. Kenny Rogers Rogers was basically Jeff Weaver but old enough to know better (Weaver was 25 when he came to the Yankees, Rogers was 31). He was actually above average during the 1996 season, posting a 108 ERA+ in 30 starts, but averaged less than six innings per start. He then posted a 14.14 ERA in the postseason, failing to last past the third inning in any of his three starts. The difference with Rogers was that, by sheer force of the 1996 Yankees mystical magical mojo, the Yankees won all three of his postseason starts despite starting all three in a sizeable hold, all on the road no less.

The next year Rogers posted a 5.65 ERA and was so undesirable he was actually traded with Mariano Duncan to the Padres midseason for Greg Vaughn, who had been displaced by Rickey Henderson, whom the Yankees dealt for chump change eight years earlier. Rogers was returned to sender, however, when Vaughn failed his Yankee physical, nixing the deal. Just as well, he was dealt for Scott Brosius after the 1997 season. Rogers didn't have nearly the deleterious effect on the Yankees that several of the pitchers lower on this list did, but he was, and remains, less likeable all of them.

Rogers earns extra credit for sullying the name of the true Gambler, for celebrating beyond his due when the Yankees won the Championship in 1996, and for being a big stupid jerkface with a big stupid jerk's face.

3. Enrique Wilson Wilson appeared in more games as a Yankee than anyone else on this list despite having less actual ability than just about any of them. Joe Torre like to use him as a pinch runner. Enrique went 5 for 11 on the bases as a Yankee. Enrique was the Yankees utility infielder for four seasons, but was a sub-par fielder at all three skill positions for his career. Most of all, Enrique hit .216/.261/.332 as a Yankee. He didn't even have the decency to have a cool moustache, goofy glasses, or a colorful nickname. Hell, he didn't even hustle. Enrique was good pals with Manny Ramirez and played the game like Manny's twin, styling in the batter's box and lapsing in the field, such as in that botched rundown mentioned in the Aaron Boone entry (Enrique was really the primary culprit there). Worst of all, the Yankees kept bringing him back for well above the league minimum.

2. Mike Witt Mike Witt was just 29 when the Yankees acquired him from the California Angels in July 1990, but as a ten-year veteran he seemed a decade older. He posted an 89 ERA+ in his first half season with the Yankees, then inked a $7.5 million, three-year deal with the Yankees back when $3 million per year was the highest salary in the sport. Plagued by injuries, Witt made just eleven starts over those three years and retired after the 1993 season.

That's bad enough, but the player the Yankees traded to get Witt in the first place was Dave Winfield. Dave Winfield! My favorite player and a first-ballot Hall of Famer! Now, even ignoring the relationship between Winfield and Stienbrenner that was fractured beyond repair by the summer of 1990, Winfield was 38 and coming off an entire season lost to a back injury and had hit just .213/.269/.361 in 20 games for the Yankees in 1990. But it was Dave Winfield! Freed from the Boss's grip in California, Winfield hit .275/.348/.466 over the remainder of the season. Two years later he turned in a .290/.377/.491 season for the Blue Jays at age 40 and erased his Mr. May tag by driving in the winning run in the final game of that year's World Series to finally get that elusive ring. He then picked up his 3,000th hit with his hometown Twins and slipped gently into retirement two years after Witt himself had already hung 'em up. All totaled, Winnie hit 106 home runs, and drove in 389 men after being traded for Witt, who won just eight games for the Yankees.

1. Ken Phelps It has been pointed out to me that Phelps actually slugged .551 for the Yankees down the stretch in 1988. Big whoop. He also hit .224 with a .339 OBP, then stunk up the joint the next year and was dealt to the A's for a no-name minor leaguer. The player he was traded for, the 23-year-old Jay Buhner, hit .224/.320/.458 over the remainder of the 1988 season for Mariners and then went on to hit .256/.362/.498 with 297 homers as a key part of the team that saved the Mariners franchise in the '90s. To make it worse, Jay Buhner was just one of three players the Yankees sent to Seattle for Phelps (the others also no-name minor leaguers).

I have one memory of Jay Buhner in a Yankee uniform and that is of flipping on a Saturday game against the Orioles in June 1988 to see Buhner break a 3-3 tie with a grand slam off of Doug Sisk. I can still see the tall, slender Buhner rounding the bases, resplendent as the afternoon sun highlighted his home pinstripes. A little over a month later he was dealt for the stocky, bespectacled, 33-year-old Phelps. That was when I knew things would get worse before they'd get better for the Bombers. Sure enough, Henderson was dealt the next year. The year after that it was Winfield who was shipped out as Mattingly's back finally gave out on him and the Yankees sank to 90 loses for the first time since 1913. Bad times. Bad times.

I blame Ken Phelps.

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2006-06-23 02:56:59
1.   T Money
Cliff -

Just a tiny note about your Kevin Brown entry. If memory serves, the ALDS series against the Twins wasn't a sweep. Johan shut down the Yanks in Game 1, and the Twins won 2-1. But the Yanks went on to win the next three games.

2006-06-23 03:35:24
2.   randym77
Alas, poor Aaron Boone. I liked him, but I wasn't sorry to see him go. A friend of mine in Ohio warned me that he wasn't really a big hitter; his 2002 season was a fluke. It appears she was right. Though his season with the Yankees was really horrible, even for him. He appears to be one of those who can't handle the bright lights of the big city.

What really got me was that his usually serviceable defense tanked in the post-season. The pressure got to him, I guess.

Though I'll always have fond memories of that 11th-inning homer.

2006-06-23 03:58:54
3.   joejoejoe
Wayne Tolleson
Spike Owen
Mike Gallego
Paul Zuvella
Rafael Santana
Alvaro Espinoza
Andy Stankiewicz

I disliked every Yankee shortstop from Bobby Meacham until Tony Fernandez. Meacham was horrible but home grown and his youth suggested an optimism that his stat sheet never fulfilled. Tony Fernandez was also a disappointment but he was at least a has-been not a never-was. I feel these awful shortstops wasted a good part of Don Mattingly's career. I want to yell "You Klingon bastards you killed my son" substituting the shortstops above for Klingons and Don Mattingly for my son.

2006-06-23 05:30:33
4.   NetShrine
Great list Cliff. You nailed Boone.

I would add the following to Enique Wilson:

There's a case to be made that he was one bad penny.

2006-06-23 05:54:04
5.   Dan M
Raul Mondesi?
2006-06-23 05:59:26
6.   ChrisS
I remember watching Andy Hawkins's "no-hitter" ... I think Jim Leyritz and Mel Hall both had errors in that game.

The Stump Merrill era was just horrid.

2006-06-23 06:02:05
7.   murphy
this is a strangely puffy piece for the usual hard-hitting baseball news that is the bronx banter... ; )

seriously, cluff: this rocks. thanks for the pasqua reference. you knew that would make me smile.

since 1995 i have had my own yankee hall of shame called the "Pat Kelly is a Bum Club" - the charter member being my least favourite. the others in no particular order:

mel hall
joel skinner
danny tartabull
melido perez
rick rhoden
lee gutterman (for bringing the ultimate shame by the leading the team in wins - out of the bullpen no less - with a whopping 11)

2006-06-23 06:07:15
8.   jdsarduy
5. Can't remember why but definitely, Raul Mondesi!!
2006-06-23 06:13:27
9.   Dan M
murphy, Rick Rhoden ruled in 1987. And he had the requisite cool moustache. It's not his fault he was traded for Doug Drabek.
2006-06-23 06:16:15
10.   Sliced Bread
That was a lot more fun to read than I thought it would be, Cliff.

Cadaret, Leary, Irabu... I grind my teeth typing the names.

The dark days duo "Howe Farr" would be on my list.

Mel Hall. Hated watching him. Hate him even more after learning what a prick he was to young Bernie.

I was sick of Denny Neagle the day he got here.

2006-06-23 06:18:26
11.   murphy
it's not that i disliked his performance. it was just the qunitessential stein-y move to trdade away youth for a slightly-above-average 34 year old vet.
2006-06-23 06:20:35
12.   Sliced Bread
7 Ah, the Gutterman days. Good one, murphy.
2006-06-23 06:21:28
13.   Shaun P
Dave LaPoint?

I just check his stats and he had an ERA+ of 69 in 1989! That's worse than I remember, even though I had no idea what ERA+ was back then.

Anyone else remember when Nolan Ryan was going for his 300rd win the first time, it was against the Yanks and LaPoint? LaPoint pitched better than Ryan, leaving with a 5-2 lead. Rags came in for the 8th (on the road!) with the score 7-3, gave up a run to make it 7-4 . . . and then gave up 3 more in the 9th, though he did pitch a scoreless 10th. Senator Al's brother Mark gave up a 2 run homer to Palmiero in the bottom of the 11th, and that was that.

Yep, 1990. Not many people on the bandwagon back then.

Someone more poetically-inclined than me could probably make a good ditty out of "Hawkins-Leary-LaPoint".

2006-06-23 06:22:21
14.   Emy
Good stuff, Cliff.

Looking at your list, two things pop out at me:

1)You (like me) can't stand incompetent MR
2)You took the 2003 Series loss pretty hard.

With the stories of the way he treated a young Bernie, Mel Hall has got to be right up there on my list. I remember not liking Steve "Bye Bye" Balboni much either.

2006-06-23 06:22:58
15.   Knuckles
We hated Matt Nokes in our household. In fact, me, my brother, and my dad had a running joke to see what was the crappiest thing we'd trade him for. It went from opposing players, to a box of baseballs, to a cheeseburger, and we finally settled on Mr. Renz, this jerk that lived on our block. To this day, every time we hate a Yankee we stop and ask each other if we'd trade them for Mr. Renz.
2006-06-23 06:25:46
16.   JL25and3
6 Leyritz was playing LF in that game, dropped a routine fly ball for a 3-base error.

I go back further than some of you. The first player I remember loathing was Fred Talbot, a real bad late-60's pitcher. Then there was Rich McKinney; it really wasn't his fault, but the Yankees traded Stan Bahnsen to get him. Bahnsen promptly won 20 games; McKinney hit .215.

In general, though, I have more tolerance for bad players who play badly (Womack is another exception). But others on my list:

Ed Whitson.

Jack Clark. Yankees paid him a ton of money, then he whined in the papers about how hard it was, not knowing from day to day if he was going to play LF or 1B or DH. Hey, Meat, look at the lineup card and play where they tell you.

Don Baylor. Known as a great attitude guy, but as a Yankee he bad-mouthed the manager for sitting him down against righties. He wasn't hitting righties for crap. The manager was Yogi Berra.

Mel Hall. Matt Nokes. Danny Tartabull. They go together pretty well.

And, of course, my all-time least favorite Yankee is Gary Sheffield. It's that integrity-of-the-game thing.

2006-06-23 06:29:21
17.   jkay
Steve Trout and Eddie Lee Whitson. They had to pich Whitson on the road beacuse he was abused at home.

Pitcher Ed Whitson broke one of Billy Martin's arms and two of his ribs after, according to a witness Martin sucker punched him.

2006-06-23 06:33:25
18.   Sliced Bread
15 That's really funny.
2006-06-23 06:48:33
19.   vockins
Aaron Boone wasn't good, but hey, he hit the home run.

Could someone else have hit it? Sure. Could the Red Sox have gone up five runs the next inning? Yes. Could a UFO have landed in CF and vaporized Yankee Stadium, sending the A's to the World Series? Very remotely possible. None of that happened. Aaron Boone hit the home run.

Those 2003 postseason numbers are crap, but he managed to outslug Arod's 2005 ps(covering head now).

I would replace him with Raul Mondesi and bump up Kevin Brown. What complete tools those dudes were.

2006-06-23 06:50:30
20.   rsmith51
Jose Canseco
Mel Hall
Ruben Sierra
Al Leiter

Clemens will always make my list of 25 least favorite Yankees.

2006-06-23 06:56:44
21.   rbj
Ed Whitson
Jack McDowell -- Ok, so he's slightly beyond the cutoff date, but when you stink up the joint, don't flip off the home crowd.

I won't hate a guy for not being good at the major league level, I'd suck at A league level. Just don't be a jerk.

2006-06-23 07:05:07
22.   Simone
I can't hate Aaron Boone. He hit that home run which made me jump up and down screaming in joy. I do despise Kevin Brown though.

Did you see the intentional ball that Miguel Cabrera hit? Totally cracked me up. He is a great kid.

2006-06-23 07:07:17
23.   Cliff Corcoran
1 The worst part about that mistake is I was at that Game One loss. Sigh, fixed it.

Mondesi was a bad dude, but he played hard and wasn't nearly as bad as you might remember (.258/.330/.471 with 13 homers and 17 steals before being dealt to AZ in 2003), plus he had a gun. I'm easy on hard-throwing right fielders.

Danny Tartabull was actually very productive for the Yanks in his first three seasons.

I didn't know Mel Hall was such a horrible guy at the time, and I'm using Ken's rule that you can't use hindsight to effect your opinion of a guy (thus Caderet's high ranking). Hall at least hit some dingers, including that memorable July 4 shot off of Jeff Reardon when Reardon was with the Sox.

Melido Perez I actually like because he was the first Yankee starter to do anything worthwhile in ages when he posted a 2.87 ERA and struck out 218 at age 26 in 1992. Of course then injuries ruined him.

I dug Guetterman too because he was tall, ugly, and what passed for good in those days (though I understand disliking him for the same reasons).

I didn't care for Steve Farr, but I loved Steve Howe. A fiery prick who is just flat unhittable (twice posting ERAs under 2.00 with the Yanks)? Yes please!

LaPoint and Nokes I considered. Trout's a good one, as is Neagle. Whitson, like I said, falls just outside the range, as does Baylor, but again I'm easy on power hitters.

The thing that pissed me off most about Clark was what they got for him just a year after signing him: Stan Jefferson, Jimmy Jones and Lance McCullers. McCullers almost made my list in part because of an old baseball card of his I own in which he's at his release point and his head is turned more than 90 degrees away from home plate.

14 Emy, I also noticed those things, but only after making the list. Twenty of these 25 are pitchers. I guess pitchers are easier to dislike because they give up the runs and often take forever doing it, standing out there twitching and sweating etc. As for 2003, I remember thinking at the time that the WS was gravy after beating the Red Sox. I think I still feel that way, but what burns me is that the Series was so darn winable and it was the worst kind of mismanagement and incompetence on the field that lead to the loss.

Anyway, there was one guy I left out that I'm kicking myself for now. Another pitcher: Black Jack McDowell. I think I may have to add a bonus entry for him. Don't know how I missed him!

2006-06-23 07:16:00
24.   Cliff Corcoran
19 Why won't anyone acknowledge that the Anglels didn't give Rodriguez anything to hit that whole series. That's why he had a .381 OBP, but hit just .133, after a while he started swinging at the junk outside the zone because he was desperate to contribute more than walks and HBPs. That last part was where he went wrong, but that overall performance was the result of the Angles deciding he was the one guy they wouldn't let beat them. I wonder if it had something to do with those ten RBIs off Colon earlier in the year.

But let's not turn this into a Rodriguez thread. It's way too much fun to ruin that way.

2006-06-23 07:16:15
25.   Bob Timmermann
Scott Erickson just has that effect on people doesn't he?
2006-06-23 07:18:58
26.   Fred Vincy
Is your 20 year cutoff designed to exclude Omar "The Outmaker" Moreno? He would have ranked high for me.

What about Knoblauch? My favorite Knobby-ism was when they convinced him to see a sports psychiatrist about the throwing problem and he said that was fine, but they could only talk about baseball. I'm thinking, dude, this is not gonna work....

2006-06-23 07:27:58
27.   Matt B
Oh yes, 26, Omar Moreno! He should be high up on the list. Where's Toby Harrah? Those two always come up in my mind when I think of early 80s futility.

I liked Lee Guetterman, and Jack McDowell - Black Jack hit that hot streak in late summer that year, didn't he? I offer up Tony Fossas.

Although he wasn't awful, does anyone remember the summer Billy Martin used Cecilio Guante in virtually every other game?

2006-06-23 07:39:19
28.   Cliff Corcoran
26 Knoblauch was one my girlfriend suggested. She always called him "Blockhead."

27 Tony Fossas was actually a late scratch along with other pointless cameos such as Dale Svuem, Alberto Castillo, Mark Wohlers, Charles Gipson and good ol' Terrence Long.

2006-06-23 07:44:21
29.   BobGerenStinks
It's really unfair to hate Knoblauch that much. The guy had TWO HUGE GAME TYING HOMERS in two different World Series. Plus he was a monster in 1999.
2006-06-23 07:45:51
30.   singledd
I'm not sure about Jose Contreras. When he was on, he ball moved so much, he was as flithy as anyone I've ever seen. We did NOT give him enough time. He showed both great failure and great promise. Considering where he came from and how he got here (and how much we paid him), I thought we should have looked past the bad and encourage the good.

We KNEW he had the arm. His head was the problem. But Yankees don't stick with someone for long. Yes... he was VERY frustrating when he kept walking guys, but when he was good, he was VERY, VERY good.

I fault the Yankees for giving up on a mature talent to easily.

2006-06-23 07:47:50
31.   Dan M
Of course I remember Cecilio Guano, Matt. Henry Cotto was Moreno-esque.

Don't diss Pat Kelly. First off, as an Irish-American kid who played second base, Pat Kelly was my role model! Second, didn't he have that huge hit that got us into the 1995 postseason.

I think it's also fun to look back and find the lovable Yankees on those bad teams, like Don Slaught (a huge favorite in my household)

2006-06-23 07:53:34
32.   BobGerenStinks
My least favorite Yankee was Bobby Munoz. What an ugly bastard.
2006-06-23 07:57:57
33.   vockins
24 I was being a jackass. That's why I wrote "covering head now". I thought ARod's OBP was even higher than that, like .450 or something.

How many errors did Boone have in the ps, I wonder? I KID, I KID!

2006-06-23 07:58:35
34.   Shaun P
I can't believe no one has mentioned "Prime Time" "Neon" Deion Sanders. Even though I'll never forget his inside the park home run (against the Royals, IIRC), he made my blood boil. All hype, no production.

What's worse is that the Yanks just flat-out released him, getting nothing in return.

31 I found Steve Sax to be lovable, mostly because he was replacing my all-time favorite Yank at 2B. In 1990, using some method of his, Bill James rated Sax as having a very good chance of getting 3000 hits. Whoops.

2006-06-23 08:03:41
35.   Sean McNally
How is Rich Monteleone not on there? The man was a human white flag trotting in from the bullpen.
2006-06-23 08:04:10
36.   vockins
34 Deion. Can't believe I forgot that guy.
2006-06-23 08:06:17
37.   Cliff Corcoran
32 Munoz was the primary guy in the deal to get Mulholland!

34 The Yanks got nothing for Deion because he was worth nothing as a baseball player. Who wants a .319 career OBP who bolts for the NFL when the pennant races heat up? No takers? Really?

That said, I dug Sax too. Another fiery guy. Never struck out. Stick turned him into Melido and Bob Wickman just in time to see him crash and burn at age 32. Damn, Stick was good.

2006-06-23 08:07:11
38.   Count Zero
24 I'll acknowledge it. Batting A-Rod 2nd in that series was a classic Torre bonehead move.

But my submission will definitely draw a lot of flack:

Randy Johnson. Dumbest trade we have made in a long time...big fat salary and he's a whiny little biotch who argues with umps endlessly and pitches like a #3 starter on his good days.

2006-06-23 08:08:14
39.   Cliff Corcoran
35 That's selective memory. In his first and fourth years with the Yanks he was bad, but I for some reason remember the middle two in which he was solidly above average.
2006-06-23 08:11:10
40.   Max
I guess I'm in the minority for not holding Game 5 of the WS against Contreras. Yes, he was at his sweatiest worst, but to me, that game was all on Wells. In fact, I would be tempted to put Wells on my list for the way he boasted about his lack of conditioning, and then proceeded to lie to Mel and Joe and have his back give out. In general, Wells' final days in pinstripes were not good ones, and I hated his finger pointing at his teammates -- and I'm really enjoying seeing his career peter out with the Red Sox (and I really enjoyed seeing him get shelled in last year's playoffs).

We lost Game 5 because of Wells -- it was already known by then that Contreras was a bit delicate, so I can't hold it against him that he didn't handle such an awful situation better. Plus, remember that one of Weaver's only friends in the clubhouse in 2003 was Wells (and I seem to recall a story about people in the Yankee organization blaming Boomer for Weaver's bad attitude). Yet another reason to despise Boomer.

2006-06-23 08:21:48
41.   Dimelo
40 I have felt that same way for a long time and will always feel that way. I was at the Yankee game when he came back and pitched against them when he was with the Padres and I think I was the only person booing him, people kept asking me, "why am I booing him?", and I told them why and he's fat piece of turd who deserves to be forgotten about. I could care less about the perfect game, blah, blah. F- WELLS!!!! Him going to the Sawx didn't bug, I hated him before that.
2006-06-23 08:24:09
42.   JL25and3
23 I can't hate Jack McDowell. He was terrific the second half of that season - 11-5 in the second half, 4-0 in September. And the 5th game against Seattle was as great a game as I've ever seen: McDowell and Johnson both coming out of the bullpen on one day's rest after pitching complete games. McDowell lost the game, but he was pitching on pure guts - he had absolutely nothing in the tank. Just a tremendously gritty performance, and I can't ever hate him.

Knoblauch is such a tough call. Two fine years, then he just fell apart. Not only the throwing; he stopped being a good leadoff hitter, too. He'd swing at the first pitch of the game all the time and usually pop it up - drove me nuts. Plus I was sitting on the first base line for the game against Cleveland, where 55,000 of us were screaming at him to THROW THE GODDAM BALL. I can't ever get that picture out of my mind.

2006-06-23 08:24:38
43.   Jeteupthemiddle
Roger Clemens.

Ok. I've said it. I hated (in the I've never met him sense) Roger Clemens.

I don't even care that he was a Red Sox, and I don't even care that he "retired" then went to the Astros.

I have no idea why I don't like him, but I actively root against him now. (While he was with the Yankees I rooted for him for the same reason I root for Giambi...I may not like him, but I still want to win.)

2006-06-23 08:25:22
44.   JL25and3
Deion Sanders is a good pick. I also think that, in only a few major league at-bats, Drew Henson made a strong case to be on this list.
2006-06-23 08:26:16
45.   ChrisS
Tartabull also had that memorable 9 RBI game against the Birds o' Baltimore.

My friends and I always like Melido Perez ... a lot more than his goofy brother Pascual (who was actually pretty damn good for the Yanks ... when he wasn't injured).

As for Matt Nokes, the only other option for a few years was the horrid Bob Geren.

2006-06-23 08:29:35
46.   Shaun P
37 I don't disagree, Cliff, but with all that hype, I thought the Yanks would have been able to get something for Deion. A bag of balls, a tube of glove polish, something.

I always found it interesting that Neon was later traded straight up for Roberto Kelly. In 1990, I would have never believed that could happen.

And you forgot the third fruit of the Sax trade - Domingo Jean, who went along with Stanky the Yankee to bring #24 X-man to the Bronx!

2006-06-23 08:33:59
47.   unmoderated
heh, this was thoroughly enjoyable.
2006-06-23 08:34:04
48.   Cliff Corcoran
38 Actually, I thought batting Rodriguez second was brilliant. Indeed, Giambi, batting behind the player the Angels refused to pitch too, had the best ALDS of any Yankee in 2005.

Ah, no must resist. NOT a Rodriguez thread!

2006-06-23 08:36:13
49.   Cliff Corcoran
26 I didn't forget about Jean, I just try not to think about him. You know he came back to the Yankee system years later as a non-roster invitee to spring training and eventual minor leaguer, as did Stanky, actually, so I guess the X-man trade wasn't a total loss. Dahhhh!
2006-06-23 08:44:10
50.   unmoderated
i know he wasn't a yankee for long, but i remember disliking ron kittle just because of his baseball card.

looking at his stats, he hit an almost respectable .277/.318/.535 in 1987.

ah, what did i know back then, i was just a dumb kid.

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2006-06-23 08:48:24
51.   rbj
I can't hate Knobby. Yanks won some rings with him; then he got a mental block. To me, it seemed like he always tried hard (except for that f'ing bonehead play in '98) and wasn't a jerk. I hope he's doing alright now.

46 Neon was traded for Roberto Kelly. I didn't know/remember that. I do know that Kelly was traded for O'Neill, so it winds up being Deion for Paulie. That was a good route to take.

2006-06-23 08:54:16
52.   Hank
Randy Velarde, believe it or not, would be high on my list. I don't really remember why, but I always hated him. And I have to take some responsibility for the '95 loss to the Mariners. When Velarde singled off Johnson to put the Yanks up, I made the mistake of yelling out, "I LOVE RANDY VELARDE!" This, of course, assured the demise in the bottom half of the inning. The whole thing was probably Velarde's fault.
2006-06-23 08:56:29
53.   JL25and3
51 The Yankees didn't trade Sanders for Kelly; the Braves did that, three years after the Yankees released him. But the Reds did end up trading Paulie for Neon.

I don't know if Knoblauch was a jerk or not. Like I said, I'm torn about him - I sure hated watching him those last two years, at bat and in the field.

2006-06-23 08:58:12
54.   rugby
No list is complete without the wonderful name of "you should've jump off a" Cliff Johnson
2006-06-23 09:03:13
55.   Shaun P
51 Who was running the Reds back then anyway? Who would be stupid enough to turn Paul O'Neill into Neon Deion Sanders? Couldn't have been Jim Bowden, could it? Nah, that would make this even more funny.

Oops, I was wrong - Jim Bowden made both deals. No wonder why he's asking for the world from the Yanks now.

Meanwhile, on the Yankee side of things, O'Neill for Roberto K was another Stick Michael deal.

2006-06-23 09:03:59
56.   rsmith51
43 Amen about Clemens.
2006-06-23 09:26:44
57.   pistolpete
21 "Jack McDowell -- Ok, so he's slightly beyond the cutoff date, but when you stink up the joint, don't flip off the home crowd."

How is Black Jack beyond the cutoff point?

2006-06-23 09:31:14
58.   JL25and3
54 Wow, that's rough. Cliff Johnson was ballplayer who made a huge contribution to the 1977 pennant drive. OK, he sucked after that, but he seemed like a good guy with a great attitude for a bench player. OK, until he got into a fight with Gossage. I don't even know if that was his fault, except that it had to be his fault because he was the scrub.
2006-06-23 09:35:07
59.   Bama Yankee
I would like to have seen what Deion could have done if he just focused on baseball (ditto for Bo Jackson). Despite all his "Primetime" antics on the football field, I always thought that Deion seemed to understand that baseball was different and that his schtick would not fly in the big leagues. There were exceptions to this (a wet Tim McCarver comes to mind), but he is generally credited for helping Steve Avery when he was with the Braves and was considered a good teammate by most accounts. For the record, I loved the McCarver dousing (man, I can't stand that guy).

I would like to have a guy like Deion to pinch run in the late innings (man could he fly).

2006-06-23 09:53:08
60.   Peter
I must admit to having, for some reason, a soft spot in my heart for Hideki Irabu.

That said, I remember all the fanfare which accompanied his joining the Yankees and it was because of him and his hype, I refused to get excited about Hideki Matsui's arrival in New York a few years later. My thinking at the time was Here We Go Again...

2006-06-23 09:54:17
61.   rbj
D'oh. He's not. I was mixing him up with Ed Whitson. That's what happens when you let work interfer with the Banter.

Speaking of Whitson, IIRC he was a John Bircher too.

2006-06-23 09:57:10
62.   Fred Vincy
Yeah, lay off Cliff Johnson.

In his 380 Yankee ABs from 1977-79, he hit 24 HRs and was .239/.397/.495 -- and that was before the offensive explosion of the 90s. We would kill to have that as our backup catcher these days.

2006-06-23 09:58:58
63.   Fred Vincy
Oops. I think my math was a bit off (it was 20 HRs), but he was still clearly a useful bench player.
2006-06-23 10:02:05
64.   JL25and3
59 It would have been great to see how good Bo Jackson might have been. But, even though he was moonlighting, he was much, much better than Deion. Also great to watch - headlong play, unbelievable arm, broke bats over his leg like they were toothpicks. (The bats. Not his legs.) He makes the short list of players I'd pay to watch.
2006-06-23 10:11:14
65.   Cliff Corcoran
Of course Cliff Johnson is well beyond the 20-year cutoff and is off limits, because how can you possibly hate on anyone named Cliff?
2006-06-23 10:18:30
66.   Eric
You forgot to mention Greg Caderet's really weird move to first base to hold runners on
2006-06-23 10:29:06
67.   Cliff Corcoran
66 You know, I think I've completely forgotten about that. Can you describe it?
2006-06-23 10:34:27
68.   BobGerenStinks
"As for Matt Nokes, the only other option for a few years was the horrid Bob Geren."

I LOVE Matt Nokes! There was something cool about a guy who ran like he was wearing cement boots, struck out all the time, but could hit the ball off the back wall of the right field bleachers when he made contact. He was a good tactical tool for the decent 1993 team, as a pinch hitter and occasional platoon partner for Mike Stanley.

2006-06-23 10:40:02
69.   BobGerenStinks
One of my most vivid memories of the pre-Buck Showalter Yankees was sitting in the field boxes at Yankee stadium with my friend Andrew in 1991 or 1992. We had crappy seats, but were able to move up because hardly anyone was there and no one gave a shat. It was the late innings of a lopsided losss to the Mariners, and Jay Buhner had hit an amazing homerun that went where they park the ambulances beyond monument park.

Anyway, the thing I remember is sitting in those field boxes, being so incredibly close, and Bob Geren came up to bat. We were just getting over the giddiness of being so close to the players, when from a few rows back some drunk guy shouted...


I don't know why, but it stuck with me forever. It was sort of a demystification moment.

2006-06-23 10:43:39
70.   BobGerenStinks
Ah, I just remember my least favorite Yankee for sure.


He was responsible for so many crushing losses in 1993.

2006-06-23 11:14:29
71.   Eric
Cliff; his move to first base was very awkward and robotic.
2006-06-23 11:16:44
72.   operablogger
As a long-time Cubs fan, I was fascinated to see how many of your "least favorite" players have also played for Chicago - 4 of 'em - Mulholland, Zeile, Heredia and Womack (twice!). And yes, they sucked for the Cubs, too. Nice work!
2006-06-23 11:19:16
73.   BlueMamma
About Jeff Weaver, you said: "I don't think you could find a single Yankee fan who was disappointed to see him go."

I think you'd find some such fans here -

It hasn't been updated since the 2004 All Star Game, but there's some funny reading there nonetheless. And genuine Yankee fans who were genuinely sad to see him go.

2006-06-23 12:25:26
74.   C2Coke
Great read, Cliff! It was like watching "I know what you did last summerS" unfold, almost painful at times. To combine with yesterday's thread with discussions of possible trades , courtesy of singledd, part of me wants to sleep through end of July. If only Meat can redeem himself later in the rest of the season, this summer would look so much brighter.
2006-06-23 12:28:57
75.   SF Yanks
Just heard about some thunder storms coming up. How's a game looking for tonight, and the next 6 days for that matter? Anybody got a clue?
2006-06-23 12:31:03
76.   Murray
Oscar Azocar
Kelly Stinnett
Ruben Sierra
Brien Taylor
2006-06-23 12:36:10
77.   Sliced Bread
75 Forecast says 60% chance of thundershowers during the game, and it's supposed to get worse overnight.

Right now it's mostly sunny in NY.

I hope it's not too bad tonight as I'll be there (with the wife) cheering for Mr. Wang and the NY Wangkees.

2006-06-23 12:41:32
78.   bobtaco
Steve Howe?
2006-06-23 12:42:22
79.   Sliced Bread
Hopefully there's less than a 60% chance that Alex Rodriguez will be showered with boos tonight.

According to
Player to watch
Alex Rodriguez is 9-for-28 (.321) with a home run in his career against Moehler.

2006-06-23 12:58:26
80.   Sliced Bread
78 Howe's on my list, bobtaco, as part of the infamous "Howe Farr" duo. Cliff 23pointed out that Howe had two below 2.00 ERA seasons with the Yanks, which defies my memory of "Howe Farr" opposing hitters crushed the ball against him/them in late innings.
Howe, with all his "baggage" just reminds me of those dark years, the Lump Merrill era, as Cliff calls it.
2006-06-23 13:07:16
81.   bobtaco
Howe's 1995 ALDS line:

Year Round Tm Opp WLser G GS ERA W-L SV CG SHO IP H ER BB SO
1995 ALDS NYY SEA L 2 0 18.00 0-0 0 0 0 1.0 4 2 0 0

I remember not liking him...

2006-06-23 13:08:49
82.   Bob B
Without a bdoubt you nailed my #1 with Aaron Boone. I felt that the series against Boston would have been over in 6 games if the Yankees had Robin Ventura playing 3rd and certainly any rookie could have done better than he did in the Series.Anyone who knowck Knobloch just doesn't get it. We won 3 straight WS and he played an important role hitting in each of them. HIs fielding problems never really hurt the Yankees and he is much maligned unfairly in my book. Great idea for a post, Cliff.
2006-06-23 13:13:00
83.   Bama Yankee
Clue Haywood

Of course he did "lead the league in nosehairs".

2006-06-23 13:24:22
84.   argy
How could Dale Murray be left off this list?
Here was a reliever so awful I was inspired to give him a fitting sobriquet-The Arsonist.

Yup, that was me who first attributed that nickname to a reliever. 1983 was the year.
That's how bad he was.

2006-06-23 13:29:09
85.   Eric
Rick Rhoden was also very annoying,because he was supposed to be the missing link for a team that had tons of offense and no pitching. I can still hear Bill Madden saying on "Sports Extra" "This Guy can Pitch"
2006-06-23 13:45:16
86.   dtrip13
The list is not complete without Steve Trout. Just look up the numbers, total chokejob while w/ the Yankees.
2006-06-23 13:50:12
87.   randym77
33 Boone had an error or two in the post-season. It's what frustrated me the most. He was usually pretty good on defense at least, but just collapsed in the post-season.

Was it Andy Pettitte who pitched into the 9th with a shutout...until Boone screwed up an easy catch?

2006-06-23 13:50:24
88.   QueenV
I never hated Knobby. I'd always root for him just because I felt really, really bad for him.

I really hated Mark Bellhorn last year. I hated him when he was a Red Sox just because appearance-wise, he looked kinda bummy. He looked more like the guy you always see at the bar instead of a ball player. Plus he was completely useless until his Boone-like moment in the 2004 ALCS. Then he reverted back to uselessness and the Yanks acquired him. Then, I REALLY hated him.

2006-06-23 14:17:19
89.   Bama Yankee
How about Ruben Rivera? Wonder what a Jeter glove and bat goes for on EBAY these days?

Maybe that's why Torre started holding on to Jeter's bat in the dugout. He wanted to make sure Rivera didn't steal it...

2006-06-23 14:22:05
90.   Stormer Sports

Great list. I have just one short comment. What I am about to say is the reason, although personally I like him, that I fear Joe Torre in the post-season. When things go well he looks like a genius, but he does not now, nor will he in the future, have any handle on what his players are feeling, what their present abilities are, or what decision is prudent. Sure, he may make an occasional decision that is prudent and fails to produce results. However too often, and in the 2004 ALCS. to make a decision that even a tribesman watching on a television being charged by Gilligan's peddling, would run for the nearest telephone to ask WHY, is Torre's trademark.

1. Kevin Brown -- When I (and every Yankee fan with a brain in their head) opened the paper in 2004 the morning of game 7, we knew the series was over. This was all on Joe, not Kevin. It was clear he had nothing, was a complete meat-head, who not only had no gas in the tank, but fought Mel and Joe at every turn.

Joe had Mussina on short rest, El Duque, and others who would have given him a better chance to win, or at least keep it close. He chose to go with his worst starter, instead of using the other guys on short rest for a few innings each. He managed the game like it was any other regular season game, like the third game of a 3 game set in July, and that is why we lost that game, not Kevin Brown. I never liked him, and he belongs on the list, but I haven't gotten over Joe's complete mismanagement of that game, and had to rant a bit.

2006-06-23 14:28:57
91.   Stormer Sports
Also: Miguel Cabrerra is my Hero of the day. I loved it, loved it, loved it. Bad New Bears hit to win the game, Awesome!
2006-06-23 14:36:06
92.   Cliff Corcoran
84 Murray falls outside of the 20-year range of the title.

87 Cripes, that sounds so right. Was that Game 2 of the 2003 WS? Man, I had shut that out. That was Andy's penultimate game in pinstripes.

89 Ruben didn't make it to the 25-man roster that year, so it doesn't work, and there was no reason to hate him before he was dealt to San Diego for Irabu (remember that? I had completely forgotten about that until right now).

2006-06-23 14:48:01
93.   Bama Yankee
91 Kelly Leak reference, good one Stormer. That's what I thought of when I saw that one too (wasn't Leak thrown out on a close play at the plate? But of course they had to lose didn't they?)

First Major League, then Bad News Bears, what's next: The Scout? Should we add Steve Nebraska to the list?

2006-06-23 15:00:42
94.   Cliff Corcoran
93 I do really dislike Brendan Frazier.
2006-06-23 16:07:26
95.   searay
69. I was at the game where Buher hit the home run up where they park the ambulance. The pitch was in his eyes and he upper cutted it 469 feet. (according to the radio) Farthest and highest home run I ever saw.
2006-06-23 16:20:44
96.   Murray
Re: Brendan Fraser, how about the worst "Movie Yankees" of all time:

Brendan Fraser in "The Scout"
Pete Vukovich in "Major League."
Bob DeNiro in "Bang the Drum Slowly"*
The kid who puts the ketchup and mustard in Lupus's hat in "The Bad News Bears"

*I know they're the Mammoths, but let's get real--they're supposed to be the Yankees.

2006-06-23 23:41:20
97.   Ravenscar
I feel like I came far too late to this thread.

Miguel Cairo - because he played so badly for the Mets

Robinson Cano - He just seems like he's a big-headed arrogant jerk. And he was mentored by Ruben Sierra.

Giambi - Had his balls - I mean hair - cut off and became a Stepford ballplayer. And then that press conference.

Karim Garcia - "Who is Karim Garcia?"


Scott Brosius - Because even one person daring to compare him to Nettles is too many

Glenallen Hill - The absolute worst pinch-hitting AB I've ever seen in the game 5 (?) playoff loss in Seattle. I was there.

Paul O'Neill - Biggest. Baby. Ever.

Tony Tarasco - Bad hair

Mattingly - Because I'm going to have to hear my friends whining about his HOF campaign for the rest of my goddamn life.

Randy Velarde - Just not likable

Kevin Mmahat - Couldn't pronounce his name

Steve Balboni - I remember him being a jerk

Jay Buhner - Annoying

Rafael Santana - Transferral - all my yankee friends hated him

Lee Mazzili - Not sure why

Bucky Dent - Just his stupid face

BOY that felt good. And I would like to say for the record that I loved Willie Randolph, Lou Piniella, Ron Guidry, Dave Winfield, Oscar Gamble, Eric Plunk, Jim Abbott, Luis Sojo, Tim Raines, Mo Rivera, and Bubba Crosby

2006-06-24 09:31:43
98.   Chris
Thanks for the memories.

Weaver is my number one, because in addition to all the fabulous pitching, the press kept writing how obvious it was that the Yankees needed to dump El Duque to accommodate him.

Another annoying thing about Jay Witasek was that they had to give up D'Angelo Jimenez, who was still a good prospect.

Luis Polonia would be on my list too; major aesthetic downgrade, to say the least.

2006-06-26 13:26:47
99.   YankeeInMichigan
Don't know if anyone is following this thread anymore, but I need to throw in a few words in defense of Randy Keisler. In his debut in Fenway in September 2000, he was the third in a trio of Texans (following Clemens and Pettite) to dominate the Sox in a pitchers' duel, prompting Dan Duquette to fire his pitching coach (:-)). I'm not sure if he ever delivered another quality start, and his griping after his demotion (after the Yankees acquired Hitchcok in August 2001) was deplorable. But that debut carried him a long way.
2006-08-14 21:38:59
100.   pablucho
Definitely Steve Trout! There is a great story, can't remember in what Yankee book, about Piniella getting woken up with a phone call at 3 a.m. or something, and it's Steinbrenner saying, "Lou, I've got great news -- I've won you the pennant!" and a dazed, half asleep Piniella saying, "What are you talking about, George?" to which Bossman replied: "Lou, I got you Steve Trout!" This was mid July of '87. Trout got 9 starts and clocked a robust 6.60 ERA, finishing 0-4 for the Yanks. The main guy the Yanks traded to get him, Bob Tewksbury, went on to win 100 games and is part of the trio, that for me, defines the roller-coaster but ultimately heartbreaking Yanks of the '80s: the other two are Jose Rijo (114-83, 3.20 after the Yanks traded him and 4 other players to Oakland for Rickey who did have 3 monster seasons for us) and Doug Drabek (148-116 and 3.60 ERA post-Bronx). Keep those 3 young pitchers, and the Mattingly Yanks definitely win at least one World Series!
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2006-08-16 03:54:45
101.   pablucho
One more. I hate to do this, but... Dale Berra (makes the cutoff, with Yanks '85 & '86). He hit .230 over 2 seasons, made 13 errors in about 65 games. Was part of the most ridiculous play of the decade, for me the single-play emblem of the '80s Yanks (the single-game emblem is Hawkins's no-no). Home vs Chisox, Aug.'85, tie game, 7th inning, Meacham on 2nd, Berra on 1st. Britt Burns pitching. Rickey doubles over the cf's head, I think it might have been Luis Salazar... all the way TO THE WALL... Meacham is rounding 3rd, huffing and puffing, Berra right behind him... and the rifle throw comes in to Ozzie who lasers it home to Fisk... who just stands there relaxed, waiting for Meacham and Berra, who both come in standing up... and bang-bang he tags them both, double play, inning over, Yanks go on to lose 6-5. I have never been more embarrassed for my team. Berra looked like a beer league softball guy. I felt like it could just as well have been me out there on the bases. One thing I can't remember: who was the 3b coach? Stick Michael? Whoever it was I think he tried to put up the stop sign but they ran through it. Anyway, I'll say one thing about that play: in a perverse way, it sure was memorable.

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