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Pitcher Perfect
2008-05-17 06:46
by Alex Belth
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Scrubway Serious, Take Two:

It rained all day and deep into the night on Friday in New York and the weaterman said it was going to keep a coming today.  However, the sun is out and it is a warm morning in New York.  Overcast, yeah, but it seems as if the Mets and Yankees will be able to get a game in this afternoon without a hitch.  Turns out this'll just be a brief encounter between the two teams as last night's game will be made up as part of a two-stadium double header in late June.  So, today gives an appealing match-up of southpaws: Johan Santana vs. Andy Pettitte.  The Yankees, of course, are well familiar with Santana.  They know how tough he can be, and with Alex Rodriguez's return still a few days away, the team is still at a disadvantage against lefties.  Pettitte has pitched poorly in three of his last four outings.  Time for him to come through with an improved performance.   

Let's Go Yan-Kees.



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2008-05-17 09:25:07
1.   kylepetterson
Who would've guessed that we would be concerned about Pettitte's starts and that Moose would be all but dominant?
2008-05-17 09:59:23
2.   Just fair
2 Someone in a padded room and straight jacket, no doubt.
2008-05-17 10:10:23
3.   Yankees Brasil
Sweet, finished him easily.
2008-05-17 10:11:23
4.   Yankees Brasil
Damn, 6 pitches, 2 K's. Beautiful.
2008-05-17 10:11:24
5.   Mattpat11
Kay is already irritating me.
2008-05-17 10:16:27
6.   Schteeve
Andy's on a mission.
2008-05-17 10:16:28
7.   Yankees Brasil
Let's hope our offense comes out just as good as Andy.
2008-05-17 10:18:23
8.   Mattpat11
Kay is excessively annoying today.
2008-05-17 10:21:33
9.   51cq24
8 maybe you just left the volume up a little
2008-05-17 10:22:49
10.   Yankees Brasil
Fat pitch that Abreu misses. Wonder why he didn't get the day off.
2008-05-17 10:23:14
11.   Mattpat11
2008-05-17 10:23:43
12.   Yankees Brasil
That's our slugger!
2008-05-17 10:24:10
13.   Schteeve
Shut up.
2008-05-17 10:24:22
14.   51cq24
10 are you watching on tv or judging by gameday? because on tv it was a nasty changeup in on abreu's hands.
2008-05-17 10:24:50
15.   Schteeve
I figured the Yanks would go deep today, i didn't figure it would be Jeets.
2008-05-17 10:26:37
16.   OldYanksFan
I never thought I'd say these words, but for Jetes, I'd like to see him pull the ball more.
2008-05-17 10:27:33
17.   Schteeve
23 pitch first inning, I like that.
2008-05-17 10:27:46
18.   OldYanksFan
If Giambi looks changeup on every pitch, he's got to hit one out... yes?
2008-05-17 10:28:11
19.   Schteeve
16 I'd like to see him walk more.
2008-05-17 10:28:27
20.   Yankees Brasil
14 TV. Changeup that stayed up. Sure it was a bit in, but it was up, no movement. Looked pretty hittable.
2008-05-17 10:30:52
21.   Mattpat11
Kay is butchering the Alou family history
2008-05-17 10:32:55
22.   Yankees Brasil
That was a nasty slider.
2008-05-17 10:34:37
23.   Just fair
Look out, Guidry.
2008-05-17 10:35:06
24.   Schteeve
20 I think it's a little bit much to say it looked hittable when we are watching it on TV and Abreu is actually standing in the box.
2008-05-17 10:35:28
25.   Yankees Brasil
Wow, K machine.
2008-05-17 10:35:38
26.   Schteeve
Does Andy really have 5 outs on 5 Ks?? What the hell.
2008-05-17 10:35:41
27.   weeping for brunnhilde
Andy's a golden god.

He's going to win this came singlehandedly.

Hey, Andy, grab a bat!

2008-05-17 10:36:53
28.   Schteeve
27 Melky and Phil Hughes need to homer in this game to shut Hank up.
2008-05-17 10:38:29
29.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow, Robby's up to a lusty .207!


2008-05-17 10:39:47
30.   ms october
27 after andy's last outing i requested he return to golden god [citation : weeping, f.b] status - he is trying to live up to it :}
2008-05-17 10:39:53
31.   weeping for brunnhilde
28 Hank didn't actually call out Melky, did he?

And speaking of Hank, I love his antics.

Just like old times.

I'm sentimental like that.

2008-05-17 10:41:26
32.   Schteeve
31 Yeah, I kinda like Hank too but supposedly he's all fired up at Cashman for not getting Santana.
2008-05-17 10:42:27
33.   weeping for brunnhilde
30 Heh heh. :)

You know where that comes from, right? Almost Famous, when Russel Hammond is tripping, standing on top of a fan's garage, about to plummet into the pool, he cries, "I am a golden god!"

So priceless.

2008-05-17 10:45:32
34.   Mattpat11
32 Brian Cashman has made some really atrocious pitching moves the last few years,but this one was the right move.
2008-05-17 10:45:46
35.   Yankees Brasil
Moeller Moeller, that ball was a mile outside.
2008-05-17 10:46:11
36.   weeping for brunnhilde
32 Ah, right. Let him run his mouth as much as he likes, because I enjoy the buffoonery, just so long as he doesn't race out and sign Steve Kemp.

And btw, ftr, I think "He's fooled us long enough" has to go down as one of the all time greatest quotes in sports.

It's just perfect.

2008-05-17 10:50:58
37.   OldYanksFan
I won't say Santana is anywhere near done, but he doesn't look like a $140m man. Even as an FA, he might end up being a bad deal. He doesn't look like the guy from 2 years aso.
2008-05-17 10:52:28
38.   51cq24
37 he definitely doesn't look as dominant, but he's usually better as the season moves along.
2008-05-17 10:53:36
39.   ms october
33 yeah, it's pricless - i enjoy when you write it.

i'm sort of on gameday - is andy's good start just him throwing strikes or something else?

2008-05-17 10:56:56
40.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, for Christ's sake.
2008-05-17 10:57:41
41.   Mattpat11
Damon was out
2008-05-17 11:00:06
42.   weeping for brunnhilde
39 He's getting ahead and hitting spots, yes.
2008-05-17 11:00:35
43.   fansince77
Meacham made a real bad decision there - nobody out? I know that the catcher made a great play and that Damon for some reason slowed down on the way but Jeez- we get at least one run there with Jeter et al coming up. REALLY BAD DECISION whether he scored or not.
2008-05-17 11:02:20
44.   Just fair
I fear that Bobby Meacham is to 3rd base coaches what Bobby Meachman was to shortstops. That was piss poor.
2008-05-17 11:04:12
45.   Mattpat11
Jason Bay may be the worst leftfielder I've ever seen. Every time I see him he's doing something awful.
2008-05-17 11:05:20
46.   ms october
42 thanks - hopefully we didn't jinx things
2008-05-17 11:05:30
47.   Yankees Brasil
Dear God, please help us.
2008-05-17 11:05:46
48.   weeping for brunnhilde

Horse shit run.

2008-05-17 11:06:47
49.   Yankees Brasil
This is the inning. Every pitch is in the middle of the plate now.
2008-05-17 11:08:12
50.   williamnyy23
What a turn...Meachman with an absolutely awful send and now Pettitte is about to cough it up in the 4th again.

Pettitte's problem is pitch selection. He has Wright in the hole and instead of trying to get him to hit a grounder, they go with the high fastball.

The Yankees aren't going to get many better opportunities against Santana, so if Pettitte bombs here in the 4th, that could be the game.

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2008-05-17 11:10:49
51.   weeping for brunnhilde
We're in a tight spot.
2008-05-17 11:11:29
52.   weeping for brunnhilde
50 Well, he was successful with the high heat in the first, but point taken.
2008-05-17 11:11:50
53.   williamnyy23
I don't know if it's mental or phsyical, but Pettitte's pitch selection and execution has been awful. If Andy can't get through 3 innings, the Yankees aren't going to win much.
2008-05-17 11:12:13
54.   Yankees Brasil
50 His problem was location. He had gotten some outs on that high FB. He just missed and left it over the plate. Then he left another one on the middle to Beltran. And now he misses low. He's just all over the plate now. We will be lucky to leave this inning 3 runs behind.
2008-05-17 11:13:05
55.   weeping for brunnhilde
There's one.

A big one.

2008-05-17 11:13:19
56.   Just fair
Good thing Jeter caught that. They would have tagged up on Damon. : }
2008-05-17 11:13:37
57.   williamnyy23
52 That's the first...Andy isn't a power pitcher. Also, Wright is a much better fastball hitter than most. What's more, that situation begged for a slow curve so Wright could beat it into the ground.

The Yankees are losing because of diminished talent, but also because of bad baseball decisions. In this inning alone, a game that could of been 4-0 could be 4-2 Mets. That can't happen.

2008-05-17 11:14:44
58.   williamnyy23
Now he falls behind Easley 2-0, making him a much better hitter. Andy's inability to go through a lineup twice is baffling and concerning.
2008-05-17 11:14:48
59.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn it.
2008-05-17 11:15:40
60.   weeping for brunnhilde

Easley just missed that one.


2008-05-17 11:16:07
61.   weeping for brunnhilde
2008-05-17 11:16:10
62.   williamnyy23
Pettitte caught a break there...that was ball four.
2008-05-17 11:16:16
63.   Yankees Brasil
Why is he pitching around Easley? Throw some freaking strikes.
2008-05-17 11:16:32
64.   Just fair
Esley's so old he played for the California Angels.
2008-05-17 11:16:42
65.   Mattpat11
That wasn't close.
2008-05-17 11:17:25
66.   yankee23
Is Pettitte getting squeezed pretty bad? Gameday looks like there are a lot of close pitches he's not getting.

Though after that last one to Easley perhaps I'm wrong...

2008-05-17 11:17:34
67.   williamnyy23
Now he falls behind 2-0 to about frustrating.
2008-05-17 11:17:59
68.   williamnyy23
66 No...if anything, it looks to me like he is getting some favorable calls.
2008-05-17 11:18:22
69.   Yankees Brasil
Another first pitch ball. This is pathetic.
2008-05-17 11:18:25
70.   SF Yanks
Really that wasn't a strikeout. The batter did what he had to do, but got rung up for it. Tough break for him, good for us.
2008-05-17 11:19:42
71.   yankee23
68 Must just be the gameday interns, then. It keeps showing two pitches right next to one another, one's a strike, the other's a ball. Maybe Andy's going for a Dice-K approach. (Throw lots of balls, look wild, that way when it's close you get the call...)
2008-05-17 11:19:55
72.   williamnyy23
That ball went foul and Giambi hit the ground....about three feet from the line!!
2008-05-17 11:20:22
73.   weeping for brunnhilde
2008-05-17 11:20:51
74.   Just fair
Dear Pettitte and Meacham,
Please stop pissing on me.
2008-05-17 11:21:13
75.   williamnyy23
That's an awful job by can't try to get a bad hitter to chase 3-2 with the bases loaded. That tells you all you need to know about what Pettitte thinks of his stuff.

Andy has hurt the Yankees this really makes you start to wonder.

2008-05-17 11:21:17
76.   weeping for brunnhilde
66 No, not really. He even got that generous called third strike on Easley.
2008-05-17 11:22:03
77.   Mattpat11
66 Not at all.
2008-05-17 11:24:25
78.   Yankees Brasil
This is pathetic. Another pitcher who can't get us 5 innings. The one offense who might be worse than ours already scored 3 in 4 innings. Talk about frustration.
2008-05-17 11:24:26
79.   williamnyy23
Bad breaks happen when you play bad baseball...from Meacham in the 3rd (and Abreu not going to 3rd on the throw) to Pettitte seeming to have no clue how to pitch in the 4th, the Yankees are now trailing a CY Young award winner who has a second life.

Why are the Yankees a below .500 team? It should be obvious.

2008-05-17 11:25:18
80.   williamnyy23
Pathetic Andy...pathetic.
2008-05-17 11:26:49
81.   Just fair
79 A check swing hit, 2 seeing eye bleeders, and a swinging bunt. Yeah, Pettite has no clue.
2008-05-17 11:27:53
82.   Yankees Brasil
Some players on the Yankees really need a psychologist. That 4th inning meltdown is beyond unacceptable.
2008-05-17 11:28:18
83.   williamnyy23
81 Lets forget about the two walks, the K that everyone agrees was another walk and the awful pitch to Wright ahead in the count.

Yep...that was a fine inning by Andy.

2008-05-17 11:28:38
84.   Just fair
Holy Shit. One large investment nearly killed another.
2008-05-17 11:29:32
85.   williamnyy23
At least the Mariners are coming in next weekend.
2008-05-17 11:29:42
86.   Yankees Brasil
81 He was behind on the count to all of their bottom of the lineup hitters. He threw a slider on the dirt on a 3-2 count to a bad hitter. He deserves the hole he's in now.
2008-05-17 11:30:45
87.   williamnyy23
Great answer back inning from the Yankees. With AG and Moeller in the next inning, this game is getting late early.
2008-05-17 11:31:14
88.   weeping for brunnhilde
He'll bounce back, fear not.
2008-05-17 11:31:35
89.   Mattpat11
81 All the walks?
2008-05-17 11:31:40
90.   OldYanksFan
Giambi continues to hit the ball HARD and get nothing. Can you hit a ball harder then that? And how did Santana catch that? How did he even get out of the way?
2008-05-17 11:33:50
91.   Just fair
Hey, I saw all the walks. Andy blew that inning. I was just trying to point out that the balls put in play were a joke. That 1,2,3 inning was a real pleasure. Yeesh.
2008-05-17 11:35:21
92.   williamnyy23
If Hank is around and the Yankees lose, I wonder if he'll have something to say about Meacham. You know his daddy would.
2008-05-17 11:39:19
93.   Just fair
Al Leiter and David Cone crack me up. Michael Kay, not so much.
And the shit keeps rollling. 2 quick outs + hit + hbp = ?
2008-05-17 11:39:39
94.   Yankees Brasil
And another pathetic inning for Andy. This is going to get a lot uglier.
2008-05-17 11:43:21
95.   williamnyy23
The Yankees keep struggling (and losing games) in the 3rd through 5th innings, when they've been outscored 91-66. Why is that? They've only had two effective starters all year.

That stat alone is sufficient justification for why Joba is much better off in the rotation than pitching the 8th inning. Sadly, the Yankees have been in many games come the 8th inning.

2008-05-17 11:43:33
96.   Yankees Brasil
So, who wants Pettitte back next season?
2008-05-17 11:44:48
97.   williamnyy23
It sucks having to give away three innings a game.
2008-05-17 11:45:19
98.   Yankees Brasil
AG, so slow.
2008-05-17 11:45:33
99.   nick
Mets pen has not exactly been reliable; I'd take down one after 5 with this pitching matchup...
2008-05-17 11:45:57
100.   Just fair
The last 2 innings make me glad I don't have any Whiskey in the house.
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2008-05-17 11:47:08
101.   Yankees Brasil
That's 12 pitches for Santana over the last 2 innings. Great game!
2008-05-17 11:47:47
102.   williamnyy23
Arod hit a HR in an extending Spring Training game. It would have been much more effective in this game.

That inning is a joke...Girardi has to have all three batters taking a stike there. Instead, the Yankees go on their usual hacking spree and give Santana a bonus inning.

It looks like Jeter's jolt provided the two run quota for the Yankees. I hope the boys have fun nights on the town planned for the evening.

2008-05-17 11:48:49
103.   williamnyy23
99 Thanks to the last two pitiful innings, Santana is only at 60 pitches. The bullpen likely wont be a factor.
2008-05-17 11:50:45
104.   nick
Pettite coming out for the 6th?
2008-05-17 11:54:28
105.   williamnyy23
If anyone watches that Happy Hour show they are morons.
2008-05-17 11:55:58
106.   williamnyy23
Damn...was hoping the YS sun would help us out.
2008-05-17 11:57:49
107.   Just fair
105 C'mon, that guy is a class act all the way. Plus, that girl is all-natural. : )
I thinks were the morons for expecting this to team to score. EVER.
2008-05-17 11:58:08
108.   Just fair
Not even frreakin' close.
2008-05-17 11:58:20
109.   williamnyy23
What the hell is Jeter thinking!!
2008-05-17 11:58:58
110.   Yankees Brasil
This is pathetic. Why? Why go for second? They deserve to lose.
2008-05-17 11:59:41
111.   fansince77
Wow- what the fuck was that?
2008-05-17 11:59:45
112.   williamnyy23
Jeter giving up on the play is inexcusable. That might explain why this team seems to give up on every game they fall behind.

I am sorry Joe...the effort is NOT there. This team is not playing as hard as it can.

2008-05-17 12:00:50
113.   fansince77
Did Jeter not want to get to second base...was he like halfway through the play thinking "I have too many doubles in my career and I need another single."
2008-05-17 12:01:15
114.   williamnyy23
And Santana throws another low pitch inning...the reservations must be early.
2008-05-17 12:04:59
115.   nick
the Farns, currently sporting a sub 3 ERA.....
2008-05-17 12:05:20
116.   Just fair
Welcome back, Farnsy.
2008-05-17 12:05:32
117.   Mattpat11
I think Kay may cry.
2008-05-17 12:05:48
118.   Yankees Brasil
Good ol' Kyle.
2008-05-17 12:05:56
119.   fansince77
and this over.
2008-05-17 12:06:23
120.   williamnyy23
I guess Farnsworth didn't think those two foul balls meant Reyes could turn on the inside pitch. More intelligent baseball from the Yankees.

I guess if the team is going to quit on the game, I might as well too. Maybe it'll rain tomorrow too.

2008-05-17 12:07:07
121.   Just fair
I don't think Moeller has a clue what he's doing.
2008-05-17 12:08:01
122.   williamnyy23
At least the Yankees are helping Willy save his job.
2008-05-17 12:08:41
123.   nick
115 oops...
2008-05-17 12:08:56
124.   murphy
dear sweet lord how quickly things have turned on farnsworth.

note to self: avoid mets fan friends for remainder of weekend.

2008-05-17 12:09:48
125.   Yankees Brasil
I don't think the team has a clue what they are doing. Changes need to be made. The way it is, this team is only going to embarass itself and its fans this year.
2008-05-17 12:10:11
126.   Mattpat11
Kay is in such a panic over the return of Farnsworth.
2008-05-17 12:10:48
127.   murphy
this is just flat awful. i think i am gonna cry.
2008-05-17 12:11:00
128.   Just fair
Rock Bottom. Paging Rock Bottom. I can't take anymore of this. Bollocks.!
2008-05-17 12:12:28
129.   fansince77
Is that an OUT? small victories.
2008-05-17 12:12:32
130.   williamnyy23
Welcome home Farnsworth...looks like the Yankees are settling into their role as a last place team rather nicely.

At this point, I don't think even Arod is enough to overcome what is wrong with this team. Talk about a bad time to have a poor season. It seems a shame to close YS with a team like this.

2008-05-17 12:13:11
131.   nick
with the way the kids are playing, there is just NO reason to watch this team right now....
2008-05-17 12:13:52
132.   williamnyy23
I know...I think they are filming the bad news bears visit the Bronx today. That must be it.
2008-05-17 12:17:20
133.   murphy
can someone explain why farnsworth is still pitching?
2008-05-17 12:19:25
134.   williamnyy23
133 It doesn't matter...this team isn't going to score another run anyway. I think they turned the page on this one as soon the Mets took the lead in the 4th, which would explain why they haven't won a game in which they've trailed in that inning.
2008-05-17 12:22:07
135.   williamnyy23
133 I guess it did matter...damn.

With the way the Yankees offense has been, you'd have to say Santana has not pitched well. Three runs is an outburst for the Yankees...when you factor in Meacham's brutal send, it could have been 4 or 5.

2008-05-17 12:35:34
136.   murphy
looks like edwar is in on the act!
2008-05-17 12:44:41
137.   OldYanksFan
Fuckin' Farnsworth!
2008-05-17 12:46:42
138.   fansince77
Anyone realize that as good as Santana is he would probably be about 2-6 on the Yankees and it would not have been seen as a good trade?
2008-05-17 12:48:20
139.   OldYanksFan
Meecham needs to be fired or transfered. He cost us at least 1 run, maybe more. Jeter's faux double didn't help either, but with 3 hits, I can't complain about him.
2008-05-17 12:51:54
140.   Mattpat11
137 Can we now stop pretending he's good?
2008-05-17 12:53:39
141.   Vandelay Industries
140 But didn't the Cubs, Braves, and Tigers already beat us to it?
2008-05-17 12:53:56
142.   williamnyy23
No need to have Joba in this game.
2008-05-17 12:55:08
143.   OldYanksFan
Why does Matsui try to pull those outside pitches? How many weak grounders to 2nd does he need before trying to go the other way?

Oh shit!

2008-05-17 12:56:57
144.   JimCobain
142 what do you have to lose? There is an off day Monday and he needs to get innings in.

Maybe he holds the Mets at 6 and the yankees tie it up in the 9th?

2008-05-17 12:59:56
145.   Mattpat11
what the hell was that?
2008-05-17 13:00:44
146.   nick
138 naaah, he'd have a 2.5 ERA in this year's he'd be 3-5....... :)
[is there an emoticon for 'wanting to vomit'?]
2008-05-17 13:01:39
147.   williamnyy23
144 Because you could have him go 2 or 3 tomorrow.
2008-05-17 13:02:20
148.   williamnyy23
I think we all need to accept that this isn't a good team. Period.
2008-05-17 13:03:42
149.   Mattpat11
That's probably why our defensive specialists should catch foul pop ups.
2008-05-17 13:06:02
150.   williamnyy23
147 Also, how many pitches has Joba thrown now? Will it hinder him tomorrow? The chances of this team scoring 2 off Wagner is slim and none. Now you compromised tomorrow. It's really a minor criticism because this team has so many problems that how you use your setup man seems irrelevant.
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2008-05-17 13:06:09
151.   Mattpat11
My prediction for the ninth.

The Yankees some how get two runs and put another guy on. Joe Girardi refuses to put on any kind of play. Yankees stand around and wait for the big hit that never comes and lose once again.

2008-05-17 13:08:29
152.   Mattpat11
The fans should have touched that.
2008-05-17 13:08:35
153.   nick
151 yeah, we all feel like the most frustrating outcome is pretty much guaranteed....
2008-05-17 13:09:07
154.   JimCobain
147 He is not being used for multiple innings right now, so it's a moot point.

148 You keep reminding everyone so either people will accept it or be bludgeoned into accepting it. ;)

For the record I've agreed with you before, that right now this team stinks. I'm still leaning towards being optimistic, with no one running away with the division, us still missing A-Rod and Posada, there is a chance to rebound. I'm going to reevaluate at the end of the month.

2008-05-17 13:10:40
155.   nick
3-hit game for Giambi!?
2008-05-17 13:11:01
156.   Just fair
2008-05-17 13:11:25
157.   Mattpat11
154 The fact that the division is still in reach encourages me more than anything.
2008-05-17 13:11:43
158.   williamnyy23
Come on Melky...first pitch hack? This team fails for a reason.
2008-05-17 13:11:52
159.   fansince77
Kay says "...and this is all you can ask for.."

I disagree wholeheartedly

2008-05-17 13:12:09
160.   JimCobain
Would be nice for Shelly to get into one here. He's due. The Yankees are due. We're due.
2008-05-17 13:12:18
161.   Mattpat11
This would be a good time for Duncan to finally get a god damned hit.
2008-05-17 13:12:32
162.   fansince77
Now he said "...and Joe Torre is going to have to go to his bench..."


2008-05-17 13:12:38
163.   nick
look, with the young starters both ineffective, this is like an 88-win team; take away A-Rod and Jorge, and it's a 78 win team: a 78-win team is gonna look like crap for long stretches. I still say we win 88+ games, a lot of parity this year, though, and it may not be enough....
2008-05-17 13:14:24
164.   williamnyy23
Having Duncan and Ensberg as your two PH'ers says it all. Not much hope there.
2008-05-17 13:14:30
165.   Mattpat11
161 Or not.
2008-05-17 13:14:47
166.   Just fair
Pinning our hopes on Shelley or Ensberg. Cripes.
2008-05-17 13:17:06
167.   nick
we need a single from Ensberg to maximize frustration...
2008-05-17 13:17:14
168.   williamnyy23
Disgusting...three games under...the hole gets deeper.
2008-05-17 13:18:09
169.   Just fair
Ladies and Gents, your 2008 New York Yankees.
2008-05-17 13:19:41
170.   fansince77
To me Jeter's slide into second was a metaphor for this entire season thus far:

"Disingenous illusion of hustle and fire"

(not Jeter but the whole team)

2008-05-17 13:21:12
171.   Jeb
I loathe Shelly Duncan. I just knew that bastard would make an out --- it was in the bag. He sucks and the team sucks. They need to DFA Mr. 4A
2008-05-17 13:22:36
172.   williamnyy23
When you can't put together more than one 3 game winning streak over 40+ games, I think that says a lot. It's not like the Yankees had a brutal 15 games stretch and that's why they are three under. They have played consistently mediocre baseball all season. They have richly deserved their current record. I keep deluding myself into thinking that Arod will really make a difference, but I am not sure if one man can carry a mediocre team to 90+ wins. If he does it, then he is underpaid.
2008-05-17 13:23:28
173.   williamnyy23
171 I think they need to make some moves...and maybe even something a little startling (like firing a coach).
2008-05-17 13:28:27
174.   JimCobain
173 I agree. Meecham has made his share of boneheaded "sends" so far. Kevin Long has a track record to fall back on for the time being.

They'll probably just option out Chris Britton again, though.

2008-05-17 13:39:04
175.   Bruce Markusen
The Yankees' overall record is mediocre, but they are simply playing dreadful baseball now. They had two baserunners thrown out on the bases, the third baseman looked like a Little Leaguer on a pop-up, and the offense, once again, went 0-for-the game with runners in scoring position.

This team has no killer instinct. They were up 2-0, on the verge of going up 3-0, and then slipped into the tank the rest of the way. Dreadful.

2008-05-17 13:41:33
176.   williamnyy23
175 I agree...this team is lucky to be three games under, but it looks like things are catching up with them now. Hopefully, the Orioles and Mariners provide a nice buffer to their freefall, but if not, then I am ready to accept the growing reality and wouldn't mind if the Yankees start looking for some deals.
2008-05-17 13:45:23
177.   fansince77
Just had a thought while i was shaving after having my whole morning wasted by the 2008 version of the Yankees:

Damon's slide into home and Jeter's slide into second. Are we dealing with players too scared to hurt? Too afraid to be aggressive? As much as it pains me to say this - this team is a bunch of premadonnas- they are not tough out there when the chips are down and they don't run over people when they have to. Seriously, I can't think of a Red Suck sliding into a base like that. I can't think of a Devil Ray or any member of any team worth its salt playing the game timidly.

Damon should have slid spikes up through home plate! Yes it was a shitty decision by Meacham but JD was stopped by a catcher's big toe and Jeter clearly pussied out of a play the second it seemed awkward.

This team needs to grow a pair quickly.

2008-05-17 15:39:44
178.   Simone
I don't get the complaints about the offense.
The offense was fine. They scored 4 runs against a combination of Santana and Wagner.

Farnesworth gave away the game. What is new there? I guess, Joe Girardi was supposed to magically cure what ails Farnesworth.

2008-05-17 19:10:03
179.   Chyll Will
178 Well yah; like, he said he would an'junk... >;)

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