Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Bombers Away
2008-04-07 12:43
by Cliff Corcoran

The Yankees will close out their season-opening homestand tonight by trying to salvage a series split against the Rays and thus a winning mark on the homestand. The buzz around the team this first week of games has concerned the poor performance of the offense, which has scored just 2.83 runs per game, the fifth-work mark in baseball at this absurdly early stage. Me, I'm more interested in the excellent performance of the pitching staff.

All three of the Yankees' wins have been close, low-scoring games, the type of games a team has to be able to win in order to advance in October. The Bombers have scored no more than three runs in any of their wins thus far. Last year, they were 5-35 in games in which they scored three runs or fewer and their third win of that kind didn't come until after the All-Star break. This year they're out to a 3-2 start in such games in the season's first week. Call me crazy, but I see that as a positive.

It could be that runs have just been down all over in the cold, windy Bronx this week, but for those worried about the offense, consider what the pitching staff has done. Removing the performances of Ian Kennedy and LaTroy Hawkins, who allowed 13 of the 28 runs given up by the Yankees thus far in Friday's ugly series-opening loss, the remainder of the staff has compiled this line:

2.17 ERA, 49 2/3 IP, 40 H, 15 R, 12 ER, 4 HR, 10 BB, 42 K, 7.61 K/9, 1.81 BB/9, 1.23 WHIP

Of course, that doesn't include the three inherited runners that were allowed to score in Friday's game by Jonathan Albaladejo (1) and Kyle Farnsworth (2), but were charged to Kennedy and Hawkins, respectively. Still, even if you add those three runs in above, the non-IPK/Hawk staff still has a strong 2.72 ERA.

This is all slightly meaningless, of course, given the small sample (only Chien-Ming Wang has pitched more than six innings thus far), but it's certainly encouraging.

At the same time, one could argue that the concerns about the offense are legitimate. Look at who's hitting and who's struggling. Melky Cabrera, a young player primed for a breakout, is leading the team with a .364/.417/.636 line despite missing two games due to suspension. Alex Rodriguez and Hideki Matsui are both making strong contributions. Bobby Abreu is doing fine. Jason Giambi, Jorge Posada, Johnny Damon, and Robinson Cano, however, are full-on struggling, going a combined 10 for 71 (.140) thus far. You can be confident that Cano will get hot, though given his history it might take until after the All-Star break, but both Giambi and Posada are in their late-30s and have already missed games due to aches and pains (Posada's throwing shoulder, Giambi's groin). Neither is in tonight's lineup. Damon, meanwhile, is a very old 34 and struggled mightily for the first half of last season with a variety of aches and pains of his own. As meaningless as the above pitching stats are, however, these first-week hitting slumps are even more so.

Tonight the Yankees face Jason Hammel, who is only in the Rays rotation because Scott Kazmir is on the DL once again with an elbow strain. Hammel hasn't pitched since spring training. He had a 6.23 ERA in the spring, has a 6.70 mark in the majors, and a career 6.41 ERA against the Yankees. That is to say, he's reliably terrible, and is the first pitcher who meets that description that the Yankees will have faced this year (Edwin Jackson isn't much better in terms of results, but has the raw stuff Hammel lacks). All but one of Hammel's confrontations with the Yankees (three of four starts and both relief appearances, the latter totaling just one inning) occurred last year. In the best of them, an early September start at the Stadium, he held the Yanks to one run on five hits, walked none, and struck out seven, but he only lasted five innings as he needed 97 pitches to get that far. It's likely that Joe Maddon was thinking of Hammel yesterday when he used J.P. Howell to eat up three innings, thus saving the rest of his pen for tonight.

Hammel's mound opponent is Mike Mussina, whose 5 2/3-inning/four-run outing in his first start is about all that can be expected of him at this stage of his career. Certainly, Girardi will need more than just Joba and Mo tonight, fortunately they were the only relievers he used yesterday. It could be that we'll have our first high-scoring game of the year tonight. Or maybe the crisp Bronx night will keep the bats of both teams frozen for one more game before the Bombers head out to play 18 of their next 20 games on the road.

Comments (357)
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2008-04-07 14:08:32
1.   Chyll Will
I'm going with the Bronx chill and the under. I can't say that this has been unseasonable, since we've had bad snowstorms in April before, but it is annoying. Still too early to tell what this offense is all about, so I'll reserve analysis (hah!) for when it gets warm...

That said, here's to the hope for another A-Rod grand slam on my birthday (quaffing root beer) >;)

2008-04-07 14:14:17
2.   Shaun P
I hope the cold makes Moose's breaking pitches crisp, and that A-Rod hits a home run of some kind for you, Chyll. Oh - and a win too.

I wonder what the weather is like in KC?

0 I didn't realize just how well the non-IPK and Hawkins staff was doing. Thanks for the info, Cliff. I really like how the non-Hawkins/Farnsworth portion of the pen has performed so far. I hope Bruney, Traber, and Princeton Dorf keep it up. Not least because, the better they pitch, the easier it becomes to move Joba into starting when the need arises.

2008-04-07 14:18:21
3.   RIYank
Hey, happy day, Chyll!
Mine was Monday. I didn't get a W for my birthday. But, Clay Buchholz did give me a nice present.
2008-04-07 14:21:29
4.   Chyll Will
3 Hey, Happy B-Day to you, too! Did you say anything about it; I woulda drew something for you.
2008-04-07 14:23:29
5.   tommyl
We'll see how Moose does tonight. I wish all those people clamoring for Joba to remain in the pen realize that he'd very likely be taking Moose's slot at some point. If Joba pitches up to expectation that would be a huge upgrade.

I'm not concerned about Giambi, frankly I was never really counting on him for anything. To me, anything he delivers is bonus. Posada though is a bit worrying. I hope he's ok, otherwise this is going to be one longgggg four year contract.

2008-04-07 14:34:02
6.   Cliff Corcoran
5 There are possible extenuating circumstances with Posada in that there were suggestions tossed around about Molina being Moose's personal catcher this year and here he is starting a second game with Moose, with Posada's injury as an excuse. That said, it could just be a coincidence, as I've not heard Girardi comment on the personal catcher thing.
2008-04-07 14:41:27
7.   tommyl
6 Yes, and I also realized today is the dreaded night game before a day game (with a travel leg to boot). So its possible that Girardi is sitting him so he can catch tomorrow, and in warmer weather. That'd be my guess.
2008-04-07 14:42:19
8.   tommyl
BTW, am I ever going to get to see Phil pitch this year? Last week I was away lecturing and this week he's pitching at 4pm. I guess I can try and DVR it and ignore all forms of internet score update for 4 hours, sigh.
2008-04-07 15:04:49
9.   Sliced Bread
6 I think it was during a Spring Training in-game interview on YES, Girardi said he was thinking about assigning Molina to one of the starters. He didn't offer Moose specifically, but he thought it would be a good way to mitigate wear and tear on Jorgie.

1 Fingers and toes crossed fer you and A-Rod, Chyll. Go crazy, make it a root beer float, as long as you're not driving.

2008-04-07 15:08:21
10.   mehmattski
8 You need to teach a "Physics of Baseball" class or something. Then, watching the Yankees will be part of your job. We should all be so lucky...
2008-04-07 15:13:23
11.   tommyl
10 I'm a lowly postdoc, so I only get to lecture on my current research. Unfortunately, analyzing curveballs tends to not get you a job unless you already have tenure.
2008-04-07 15:16:39
12.   Jeb
OT: hopefully the Tigers will decide to win their next 3 games.
2008-04-07 15:34:29
13.   Mattpat11
I'm ready for some fine Yankee baseball with a fine Mike Mussina performance.

Also, because we're likely to see him tonight, I'm putting my full support behind Latroy Hawkins tonight. He's a good guy, and as much as I may be against the signing, I feel bad for him.

2008-04-07 15:35:41
14.   tommyl
13 Matt, I can't even tell when you are being sarcastic or not anymore...
2008-04-07 15:39:08
15.   Mattpat11
14 I'm serious. I feel bad for the guy. The fans aren't being fair to him.

Plus, unlike Kyle Farnsworth, he seems to realize he pitched poorly.

2008-04-07 15:45:11
16.   SF Yanks
15 I felt the same way last week, and still do. He is being unfairly treated, and to top it off it sounds like he is a genuine guy. I'm rootin' for him.
2008-04-07 15:50:26
17.   Mattpat11
16 If they want to boo him because he's no good, be my guest. I don't boo, but whatever gets you up in the morning.

But this is over a number.

2008-04-07 16:07:20
18.   Mattpat11
Come on Moose!
2008-04-07 16:09:15
19.   SF Yanks
Does Moose have the slowest fastball in MLB? I bet he does.
2008-04-07 16:09:18
20.   Mattpat11
I love early season numbers. Iwamura .227/.292
2008-04-07 16:09:35
21.   Mattpat11
19 Moyer
2008-04-07 16:10:51
22.   Mattpat11
Where was ball one to Pena?
2008-04-07 16:11:27
23.   SF Yanks
21 What's he sitting at? Less than 85?
2008-04-07 16:11:56
24.   Mattpat11
23 83 last I checked.
2008-04-07 16:13:59
25.   SF Yanks
24 That's a bit rough. I don't know how he survives.

Well, GOM (Ghost of Moose) is off to a good start.

2008-04-07 16:16:27
26.   SF Yanks
Jete seems to be a bit double play prone lately.
2008-04-07 16:17:49
27.   Mattpat11
Iwamura and Bartlett hanging out? I SMELL A SITCOM
2008-04-07 16:17:51
28.   fansince77
If jeter is going to have such bad cuts he might as well be bunting for a base hit in that situation.

His ab's have been bad.

2008-04-07 16:18:42
29.   Mattpat11
25 I think Schill might be 86ish these days.
2008-04-07 16:18:58
30.   Mattpat11
2008-04-07 16:19:03
31.   fansince77
That's nice...very nice. Anyone else sense that the bats might come back to life 2-nite?
2008-04-07 16:20:01
32.   Mattpat11
31 Hope so
2008-04-07 16:20:18
33.   SF Yanks
31 If they don't off this pitcher, then there's something wrong.
2008-04-07 16:23:16
34.   Mattpat11
I'll take two runs every inning.
2008-04-07 16:23:31
35.   fansince77
Seems like besides Jeter everyone had good at bats. That's all you can ask for - quality ab's. Good aggressive swings.
2008-04-07 16:24:05
36.   Knuckles
"Matsui has hit home runs against the Rays than any other opponent."

Why is it worth saying this? They play 4 teams 19 times a year, and since Matsui came to the US Tampa has had the worst pitching out of the 4...

2008-04-07 16:25:19
37.   Mattpat11
Why are we stalling?
2008-04-07 16:26:53
38.   Mattpat11
Has he dropped a curve yet?
2008-04-07 16:27:25
39.   Mattpat11
there we go.
2008-04-07 16:28:33
40.   rbj
Heh, I get the YES feed on EI in addition to ESPN.
2008-04-07 16:33:24
41.   Mattpat11
Doesn't call the low strike.
2008-04-07 16:34:59
42.   Mattpat11
Mike DeFelice is pissy
2008-04-07 16:37:52
43.   Mattpat11
Jeter;s hurt
2008-04-07 16:37:54
44.   SF Yanks
Oh boy...
2008-04-07 16:39:10
45.   Mattpat11
2008-04-07 16:39:45
46.   SF Yanks
What an ugly swing Gomez has.
2008-04-07 16:40:17
47.   Mattpat11
Ensberg looks awkward at first.
2008-04-07 16:40:31
48.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
What happened to Jeter?? was away for 2 minutes, came back and saw Betemit at short..

Hey Chyll, "Tanjobi Omedeto-gozaimasu!" (Happy Birthday in Japanese)

2008-04-07 16:41:02
49.   3rd gen yankee fan
What happened to Jetes?

(Good to be back, btw... my computer died and I could only read for awhile... Happy Birthday Chyll!)

2008-04-07 16:42:08
50.   Mattpat11
Uh oh
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2008-04-07 16:45:53
51.   Mattpat11
nice grab by wilson.
2008-04-07 16:47:27
52.   Mattpat11
2 out, but Crawford hits Moose.
2008-04-07 16:47:56
53.   kngoworld
What happened to Jeter?
2008-04-07 16:48:35
54.   Mattpat11
Okay, all things considered.
2008-04-07 16:49:44
55.   Mattpat11
53 not sure
2008-04-07 16:50:05
56.   SF Yanks
53 I don't think anyone knows yet.
2008-04-07 16:50:39
57.   Mattpat11
Lets get some runs
2008-04-07 16:51:39
58.   SF Yanks
Molina's on fire.
2008-04-07 16:51:44
59.   Mattpat11
2008-04-07 16:51:49
60.   Just fair
Hopefully, the captain just got hit upside the head with the flu and need to lay donw. Damn Molina is fast.
2008-04-07 16:55:21
61.   Just fair
Man, maybe I need to "lie down.."
2008-04-07 16:56:30
62.   Mattpat11
Oh fuck.
2008-04-07 16:57:45
63.   Mattpat11
come on A-Rod
2008-04-07 16:58:37
64.   Just fair
If Meacham had sent Molina there, his third base coach credentials would have went right down the tubes.
2008-04-07 16:59:05
65.   Mattpat11
This is getting annoying.
2008-04-07 16:59:09
66.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Gameday still sucks.
2008-04-07 17:00:48
67.   Yankees Brasil
What happened to A-Rod? Did he forget there's a right side on the field?
2008-04-07 17:02:02
68.   weeping for brunnhilde
Hey, Team! Mike's doing all right, it looks like?
2008-04-07 17:02:12
69.   Mattpat11
The shift is fun.
2008-04-07 17:02:51
70.   weeping for brunnhilde
What's Betemit doing at short?
2008-04-07 17:03:05
71.   Mattpat11
I thought Ensberg stepped off the bag.
2008-04-07 17:03:22
72.   Mattpat11
70 Strained left quad for Jeter
2008-04-07 17:04:31
73.   weeping for brunnhilde
He seems to have 'em off-balance, eh?

Curve looks sharp and he seems to be commanding it.

2008-04-07 17:04:50
74.   Yankees Brasil
First pitch strikes man! Way to go Moose.
2008-04-07 17:05:26
75.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Moose's GB rate so far this year is considerablly higher than his career average... change in approach?
2008-04-07 17:07:50
76.   Mattpat11
75 Could that be because he doesn't K as much?
2008-04-07 17:07:59
77.   weeping for brunnhilde
72 Damn. That's a day-to-day kind thing, right?

Oooh, nice hit by CAno!

Fuck, Hinske.

Damn it.

2008-04-07 17:08:21
78.   rbj
Dang, nice robbery by Hinske.
2008-04-07 17:08:26
79.   Yu-Hsing Chen
damn, Matsui came close.
2008-04-07 17:08:39
80.   Mattpat11
They know Hammel sucks?
2008-04-07 17:09:23
81.   Mattpat11
77 Quads are a bitch.
2008-04-07 17:09:29
82.   Yankees Brasil
Way to make him work guys, at least he threw 4 pitches.
2008-04-07 17:10:55
83.   Yu-Hsing Chen
47 pitches through 4? jesus.
2008-04-07 17:11:47
84.   Mattpat11
83 If you'd like, they can also take strikes down the middle and start every at bat 0-2.

Those seem to be our choices.

2008-04-07 17:12:28
85.   Mattpat11
Nice hook.

Here comes Gomes.

2008-04-07 17:13:29
86.   Mattpat11
I don;t get the 2 1/4 joke.
2008-04-07 17:13:58
87.   Mattpat11
Tied David Cone.
2008-04-07 17:15:22
88.   Yu-Hsing Chen
who the hell is this guy and what has he done with Mike Mussina?
2008-04-07 17:15:38
89.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Singleton talking about Frank Tanana..nice.
2008-04-07 17:16:25
90.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Moose crawling back to the upper 80s... hmmm
2008-04-07 17:17:26
91.   Mattpat11
2008-04-07 17:20:10
92.   Mattpat11
Moose is shaking off alot.
2008-04-07 17:21:22
93.   Mattpat11
come on Moose.
2008-04-07 17:21:36
94.   weeping for brunnhilde are we going to get out of this one, Mike?
2008-04-07 17:21:38
95.   Mattpat11
"Just off the plate?"
2008-04-07 17:21:57
96.   weeping for brunnhilde

Too close.

Nice job, Mike.

2008-04-07 17:22:00
97.   Mattpat11
94 I'll take it.
2008-04-07 17:22:48
98.   rbj
"Hammel's mound opponent is Mike Mussina, whose 5 2/3-inning/four-run outing in his first start is about all that can be expected of him at this stage of his career."

Hopefully Moose will exceed expectations tonight.

2008-04-07 17:23:49
99.   Mattpat11
Can we start hitting this guy now?
2008-04-07 17:24:15
100.   weeping for brunnhilde
97 This is who Mike is, God love him.
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2008-04-07 17:24:18
101.   yankeemonkey
Moose probably has another inning in him. Would be nice to get him some run support, as strange a concept as that might be.
2008-04-07 17:24:41
102.   Yankees Brasil
With Jeter out, who would you guys bat 2nd for the next few games?
2008-04-07 17:25:33
103.   Mattpat11
101 64 pitches through five.
2008-04-07 17:25:40
104.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wait, what's up with Jorgie now?
2008-04-07 17:26:00
105.   Mattpat11
102 Matsui
2008-04-07 17:26:24
106.   weeping for brunnhilde
102 Robby, no question.
2008-04-07 17:26:26
107.   Mattpat11
104 Mussina.
2008-04-07 17:26:44
108.   weeping for brunnhilde
Two nice easy outs for the Pinstripers.
2008-04-07 17:27:22
109.   weeping for brunnhilde
107 Oh, right!

All righty, then.

2008-04-07 17:28:57
110.   weeping for brunnhilde
105 Shouldn't we be grooming Robby for number two, though?

Plus, he's hitting the ball hard these past couple of games, no?

Nice hit, Johnny.

2008-04-07 17:29:27
111.   yankeemonkey
'bout time one of these fell in. Grumble.
2008-04-07 17:29:43
112.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ah, this is the famous Ensberg?
2008-04-07 17:29:49
113.   Mattpat11
Had a flashback to the last righthanded number 11
2008-04-07 17:30:44
114.   yankeemonkey
113 This dude is slightly different, methinks.
2008-04-07 17:32:03
115.   yankeemonkey
Well f*k me sideways. ::weeps::
2008-04-07 17:32:06
116.   Mattpat11
He's not even as fast as Sheffield
2008-04-07 17:32:52
117.   weeping for brunnhilde
113 Oh my God, me too!
2008-04-07 17:34:14
118.   Mattpat11
117 I think he might be closer to the last lefthanded 11.
2008-04-07 17:34:48
119.   Mattpat11
Odd strikezone
2008-04-07 17:35:28
120.   Mattpat11
Crawford scares the hell out of me.
2008-04-07 17:37:34
121.   Mattpat11
So does Pena.
2008-04-07 17:39:35
122.   weeping for brunnhilde
"The martini glass defense."


2008-04-07 17:40:30
123.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh my God!

A beautiful fucking 3-1 change by Mike.

Oh, that was sweet.

2008-04-07 17:40:50
124.   yankeemonkey
I could use a martini right about now.
2008-04-07 17:41:06
125.   Mattpat11
2008-04-07 17:41:27
126.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, fuck!!


An error.

The last thing Mike needs.

Oh, God, I have a bad feeling about this.

2008-04-07 17:41:33
127.   rbj
That's an unhappy Moose.
2008-04-07 17:41:43
128.   Mattpat11
wheels can come off here. Don't let it bother you.
2008-04-07 17:41:59
129.   weeping for brunnhilde
Suck it up, Moose, suck it up!
2008-04-07 17:42:38
130.   Mattpat11
He's shot.
2008-04-07 17:42:38
131.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, no.


2008-04-07 17:43:03
132.   Mattpat11
Okay. Got out of it.
2008-04-07 17:43:09
133.   rbj
2008-04-07 17:43:26
134.   weeping for brunnhilde

Nice job, Mike, nice job!

Ok, Team, let's get our old sourpuss some insurance.

2008-04-07 17:43:33
135.   nick
Cano's errors ALWAYS look like that....phew!.......don't Cano's errors almost always seem to come on easy plays?
2008-04-07 17:43:52
136.   Yankees Brasil
Way to go Moose, pick up your D!
2008-04-07 17:43:56
137.   Jeb
Come on robby. Man, moose is really pitching tonight. Hitting his spots, changing speeds (slow to crawling) and he's got that curve going.

7 from moose
1 from Ross/traber
1 from month

Anyway if moose can pitch like tonigh and like last week he will eat 175 innings easy and have a low 4 era and win 13 games. I could handle that.

2008-04-07 17:45:41
138.   Mattpat11
Send Mussina out for the 7th?
2008-04-07 17:46:57
139.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, yesssss!!



Man, he's on fire.

2008-04-07 17:47:10
140.   Mattpat11
135 I think a legit first baseman grabs it, but it was a bad throw.


2008-04-07 17:47:18
141.   Just fair
Abrue=locked in.
2008-04-07 17:47:31
142.   rbj

OK, let's not waste a lead off triple. I hate that.

2008-04-07 17:47:42
143.   Yankees Brasil
Who the man? Bobby da man!
2008-04-07 17:47:50
144.   Jeb
Ok bruney/traber.
2008-04-07 17:48:01
145.   weeping for brunnhilde
Come on, hit it the fuck out, Alex!
2008-04-07 17:48:02
146.   Mattpat11
just get it in the air, Alex.
2008-04-07 17:48:25
147.   weeping for brunnhilde
That'll do!

Thank you, Alex!!


2008-04-07 17:48:44
148.   Mattpat11
144 No.

Let Mussina lose it, not BB.

2008-04-07 17:49:03
149.   Mattpat11
2008-04-07 17:49:06
150.   weeping for brunnhilde
Beautiful hitting, Alex, nice analysis, Flash.
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2008-04-07 17:49:16
151.   Yankees Brasil
That's it Alex, opposite field, nice and easy.
2008-04-07 17:49:30
152.   rbj
138 He's up to 82 pitches, which is probably enough for his second start of the season.
2008-04-07 17:49:52
153.   weeping for brunnhilde
You gotta steal here, Alex.
2008-04-07 17:50:24
154.   Just fair
We need to Farnsworthproof this game.
2008-04-07 17:50:28
155.   weeping for brunnhilde
151 Nice and easy.
2008-04-07 17:51:19
156.   weeping for brunnhilde
You can't K here, Hideki.

You gotta put it in play.

2008-04-07 17:52:18
157.   weeping for brunnhilde
Do we have Mo and Joba at all tonight?

Could we go to Joba for like two outs or so?

2008-04-07 17:52:24
158.   RIYank
Hey all.
Bobby has a shot at the cycle today.
2008-04-07 17:52:55
159.   Mattpat11
157 Joba for one inning. I assume Mo too.
2008-04-07 17:53:30
160.   weeping for brunnhilde

Holy fuck!!

That's what I'm talking about!!!!

Wow, a thing of beauty!!!!

2008-04-07 17:53:39
161.   Mattpat11
2008-04-07 17:54:00
162.   rbj
154 Is it possible to Farnsworth proof a game? Maybe if they score 30 runs.
2008-04-07 17:54:18
163.   weeping for brunnhilde
158 Hey, RI!

Just in time!

2008-04-07 17:54:23
164.   Yankees Brasil
Beauty! Thank you Hideki-san!
2008-04-07 17:54:44
165.   Mattpat11
162 No. The only way to Farnsworth proof this team is to rid it of him.
2008-04-07 17:54:57
166.   Jeb
So this is what a 3 run lead feels like!
2008-04-07 17:55:27
167.   weeping for brunnhilde
All right, this is the test.

This run must be cashed in.

2008-04-07 17:55:42
168.   Mattpat11
Just in the air, Wilson.
2008-04-07 17:56:02
169.   weeping for brunnhilde
What the hell kind of swing was that!!
2008-04-07 17:56:12
170.   RIYank
162 That's what I was thinking. It's absurd to ask for a Farnsproof game. We learned that last year.

I was also thinking this, as I read through the comments: why is everyone so eager for Hammel to leave the game?? This is just the kind of pitcher we destroy the third time through the line-up.

2008-04-07 17:56:48
171.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, man.

Fire this guy.

That was abominable.

2008-04-07 17:57:16
172.   Mattpat11
May em pay Jose!
2008-04-07 17:57:28
173.   SF Yanks
170 I don't think anyone's eager for him to leave.
2008-04-07 17:57:39
174.   Yankees Brasil
Betemit, on the other hand, what an ugly AB.
2008-04-07 17:58:17
175.   RIYank
This is a moronic managerial move. I know Melky hits better than Molina, but this is really stupid.
2008-04-07 17:58:35
176.   weeping for brunnhilde
I have confidence in Molina, here.
2008-04-07 17:58:55
177.   Mattpat11
Okay. We have a three run lead.
2008-04-07 17:58:59
178.   weeping for brunnhilde

At least he hit the baseball.

2008-04-07 17:59:06
179.   Jeb
1 more inning for moose
1 more inning for moose
2008-04-07 17:59:22
180.   Just fair
Can a big leaguer seriously make that bad of a swing? Geez, Betemit. I nearly brought up my lunch.
2008-04-07 17:59:50
181.   RIYank
... even though it worked. It was still stupid.
2008-04-07 18:00:51
182.   Mattpat11
179 Yes.
2008-04-07 18:00:57
183.   yankeemonkey
I say send Moose out but have someone warming in case he runs into trouble.
2008-04-07 18:01:36
184.   nick
damn, Bruney looking streamlined out there!
2008-04-07 18:01:39
185.   yankeemonkey
Or not. Bruney in. OK...
2008-04-07 18:01:44
186.   Mattpat11
2008-04-07 18:02:58
187.   Yankees Brasil
Oh man, that's messed up, I would have brought Moose back for the 7th
2008-04-07 18:03:04
188.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ok. What happens now?

What kind of leash with Bruney?

We can't lose this game because Joba didn't pitch...

2008-04-07 18:05:04
189.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ok, get Joba up now, please.
2008-04-07 18:06:32
190.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice pitching, Bruney!

That's two.

2008-04-07 18:06:38
191.   Shaun P
188 Bruney hasn't been bad so far this year. I bet he has a decent leash.

Now, who pitches the 8th (unless the bats bring the bombs)? Joba? Farnsworth?

2008-04-07 18:07:13
192.   SF Yanks
Matt, what would Bruney have to do for you to have some faith in him? I don't trust him yet either, but I was curious to see what he'd have to do for you to like him. I'm not being sarcastic, simply curious.
2008-04-07 18:07:43
193.   weeping for brunnhilde

Nice job, Bruny, nice job.

2008-04-07 18:08:00
194.   Mattpat11
Still not sold on BB, but this helps.
2008-04-07 18:09:32
195.   Mattpat11
192 At least a full year of quality pitching.
2008-04-07 18:09:36
196.   weeping for brunnhilde
191 Yes, very representative outing! That's encouraging.

For the 8th? Start with Farns but have Joba throwing before the first pitch is thrown.

2008-04-07 18:10:31
197.   Jeb
I'd prefer not to see joba tonight. When you're up 4-1 you don't go to him automatically. Let bruney and traber work the 8th.
2008-04-07 18:10:36
198.   nick
god, these espn guys who think a setup man is more important than a starter....their reasons explain everything about the way they think: a great setup man means you don't blow leads, because blowing leads means looking bad; of course, a great starter will increase your chances of getting leads, but hey! if you don't have leads, you can't blow them, and not blowing leads is more important than winning games, so therefore........[end rant]
2008-04-07 18:10:38
199.   RIYank
Bruney really has been good. We have a bullpen that can throw extremely hard. For whatever that's worth.
2008-04-07 18:10:44
200.   yankeemonkey
I'm guessing Bruney for one more out, followed by Traber for all the lefties.
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2008-04-07 18:10:56
201.   rbj
Bruney looked good at the beginning of last year, IIRC, but then he seemed to lose the strike zone. If he's found it again he'll be decent. Gotta have a pen that consists of more than Mo & Joba.
2008-04-07 18:11:39
202.   SF Yanks
195 Hmmm... that seems a bit much but to each his own. I say after a few solid months, I'd have some faith in him.
2008-04-07 18:11:54
203.   Mattpat11
Demi Moore!
2008-04-07 18:12:44
204.   Mattpat11
202 The bottom fell out after a few solid months last year.
2008-04-07 18:13:22
205.   Mattpat11
2008-04-07 18:13:24
206.   RIYank
200 Good call.
2008-04-07 18:13:42
207.   SF Yanks
204 Fair enough.
2008-04-07 18:13:52
208.   Just fair
Hold onto your hats. Kyle's warming in the pen.
2008-04-07 18:13:58
209.   weeping for brunnhilde
203 Indeed!
2008-04-07 18:14:51
210.   RIYank
205 No need for foul language.
2008-04-07 18:14:56
211.   weeping for brunnhilde
198 Heh heh heh e heh.

Nice one there, Morgan Ensberg.

2008-04-07 18:15:08
212.   Jeb
Good seeing eye single by Ensberg
2008-04-07 18:15:10
213.   yankeemonkey
Morgan is also scared of the Farns.
2008-04-07 18:15:42
214.   Mattpat11
Clean Shaven Ensberg looks 15 years older. Its not supposed to be like that.
2008-04-07 18:15:46
215.   Shaun P
OK, Bobby, time for a cycle?
2008-04-07 18:18:50
216.   weeping for brunnhilde
I love this aggressive play by Joe II.
2008-04-07 18:18:59
217.   Mattpat11
Maybe he'll get up again in the eigth
2008-04-07 18:19:07
218.   rbj
Boo bad pitcher. OK Yankees, time to bat around.
2008-04-07 18:19:07
219.   RIYank
Cowardly depriving Bobby of his cycle opportunity.
2008-04-07 18:19:15
220.   Just fair
I want Cano to start seeing Abreu's optometrist. Aggresiveness be damned.
2008-04-07 18:19:16
221.   OldYanksFan
Evening gentlemen.
Can we at the Banter have a group hug for the Moose? Only 2 bad pitches the entire game.
Gentlemen. Meet ARod.
2008-04-07 18:19:56
222.   Mattpat11
strikezone is kind of all over the place tonight
2008-04-07 18:20:48
223.   Mattpat11
221 Mussina might be my favorite Yankee, and I really, really want to see him do well.
2008-04-07 18:21:00
224.   Shaun P
222 I've seen 3 of the 4 games in this series, and none of the home plate umps has impressed me. Too many balls way off the plate being called as strikes.
2008-04-07 18:22:24
225.   OldYanksFan
Me likey sarcastic Mattie.
2008-04-07 18:22:29
226.   weeping for brunnhilde
Come on, Alex, hang in there!
2008-04-07 18:22:56
227.   Mattpat11
224 This guy seems to pick and choose when he wants to call the low strike.
2008-04-07 18:23:03
228.   nick
alex gettin his rips!
2008-04-07 18:23:04
229.   weeping for brunnhilde

God, he just missed that.

2008-04-07 18:23:28
230.   Mattpat11
225 Huh?
2008-04-07 18:23:50
231.   weeping for brunnhilde

Damn it.

2008-04-07 18:23:52
232.   Shaun P
Hoye-Eddings-Barksdale-Barrett is the ump crew. We might want to keep their names in mind. It could be that umps need a little time to 'warm up' too.
2008-04-07 18:23:55
233.   Mattpat11
Its outside, but he's been calling it.
2008-04-07 18:24:06
234.   rbj
And that pitch looked off the plate -- and it was by a fair piece.
2008-04-07 18:24:26
235.   OldYanksFan
"Maybe a little wide strike there".
Ya think?
2008-04-07 18:24:33
236.   Yankees Brasil
That's outside. The umps this year are horrible.
2008-04-07 18:24:42
237.   nick
little shit slider, four inches outsie--
2008-04-07 18:24:55
238.   Shaun P
Last pitch to A-Rod was no where near the plate. Ugh. Very frustrating.
2008-04-07 18:24:57
239.   weeping for brunnhilde
Come on, Hideki!

Just slap it into left!

2008-04-07 18:25:55
240.   nick
the final's on, end it Hideki--
2008-04-07 18:26:04
241.   Mattpat11
Ensberg slid the last 30 feet or so.
2008-04-07 18:26:19
242.   weeping for brunnhilde
Or you could just smoke it through the hole!!!


Ripped that baseball!!

Haah ah hah !!!


2008-04-07 18:26:19
243.   OldYanksFan
What is the point of developing a good eye when umpires don't know balls from strikes?

Matsui proving me wrong. NICE!

2008-04-07 18:26:40
244.   weeping for brunnhilde
Good rip, Robby.
2008-04-07 18:26:52
245.   Just fair
Can Cano please get a hit in a big spot here?
2008-04-07 18:26:55
246.   Shaun P
239 Or pull it to right. =)

C'mon, they need to get A-Rod back up so he can hit a homer for Chyll's birthday!

2008-04-07 18:27:22
247.   Mattpat11
243 Wade Boggs Argument
2008-04-07 18:27:31
248.   Yankees Brasil
Comon Robbie, it's time for your bat to wake up!
2008-04-07 18:27:34
249.   OldYanksFan
241 That was funny. He surfed over the plate.
2008-04-07 18:27:37
250.   SF Yanks
C'mon Robbie, get in on the fun.
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2008-04-07 18:28:25
251.   Zack
Hey everyone. Just checking in after a long day: Was Moose as good as his line? And what happened to DJ?
2008-04-07 18:29:00
252.   Just fair
Ball 4.
2008-04-07 18:29:49
253.   Shaun P
251 Strained left quad for the Captain. Sounds like Moose was pretty sharp.
2008-04-07 18:29:59
254.   rbj
251 Jeter = quad
Moose = good
2008-04-07 18:30:15
255.   OldYanksFan
Moose was loose as goose. Pitched smart with very good command and mixed up his pitches nicely.
2008-04-07 18:30:52
256.   Just fair
I want Cano to take the world by storm this year. G-dam.
2008-04-07 18:30:55
257.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ohhh, Robby!!!


What a beautiful ab!


2008-04-07 18:31:18
258.   RIYank
This is good.
Now Farns can pitch.
2008-04-07 18:31:22
259.   Shaun P
2008-04-07 18:31:36
260.   weeping for brunnhilde
256 No kidding.

When he's on, there's no one better.

2008-04-07 18:31:41
261.   Zack
253 235 255 Thanks guys! I knew the Banter good give me a nice, concise State of the Yankees Game :)

Hmm, strained left quad, wheres Marty Miller to blame?

2008-04-07 18:31:47
262.   OldYanksFan
ESPN reported it was Jeters groin. Possibly tweaked it when is was already sore. He's going for an MRI.
2008-04-07 18:32:02
263.   SF Yanks
Betemit isn't a very good hitter is he?
2008-04-07 18:32:04
264.   SF Yanks
Betemit isn't a very good hitter is he?
2008-04-07 18:32:06
265.   weeping for brunnhilde
All right, this Betemit sticks out like a sore thumb.
2008-04-07 18:32:12
266.   rbj
258 I'd like to see about ten more runs, which would also give Abreu another shot at the cycle.
2008-04-07 18:32:22
267.   Zack
Was Moose throwing more breaking pitches and less "FASTballs" this time?
2008-04-07 18:32:23
268.   Jeb
6-1 even Kyle can't blow this lead. He can't give up a 5 run homer.
2008-04-07 18:32:39
269.   OldYanksFan
Half way to Farnsproof!
2008-04-07 18:32:58
270.   weeping for brunnhilde
264 Um, that would be a 'no, apparently not.'
2008-04-07 18:33:40
271.   OldYanksFan
267 Yes. Very few fastballs (or mediumballs).
2008-04-07 18:34:01
272.   weeping for brunnhilde
267 Not sure, but he was commanding the curve pretty well, and it had a nice sharp break.

Fastball mixed in and the change did him great service at least once.

2008-04-07 18:34:10
273.   ChrisS
I'm watching on ESPN. I heard that Steve Phillips has a thing for bestiality. Just sayin'.

I love it when that pompous douche gets showed up on national tv. Thanks Robbie!

2008-04-07 18:34:34
274.   SF Yanks
267 Seemed to be primarily breaking stuff. The slow, slower, and slowest.
2008-04-07 18:34:37
275.   weeping for brunnhilde
271 "Mediumballs."

Ha ha ah a a hah aha h ah ah ah h ah ah!!!

2008-04-07 18:34:49
276.   RIYank
266 We only need two base runners in the eighth for Bobby to get another shot.
2008-04-07 18:35:03
277.   OldYanksFan
267 And I only saw 2 pitches down the middle. One was a HR, the other a Double.
2008-04-07 18:35:07
278.   markp
Actually, for a back up IF, Betemit is a pretty good hitter.
2008-04-07 18:35:43
279.   weeping for brunnhilde
One out.
2008-04-07 18:36:08
280.   Shaun P
258 268 You guys have a lot more confidence in old Farnsy than I do. I'd rather see Bruney for the righty, Traber for the lefties, and then whoever hasn't pitched in a couple of days. Hawkins, I think.

270 IIRC, the DT folks told us that Betemit would be really annoying some times, because he'd K on ridiculous pitches, but to ignore those times, because he really is a good hitter. I wouldn't judge him too harshly.

2008-04-07 18:36:11
281.   Just fair
2 more line drives hit right on the nose at somebody and the inning will be mercifully over.
2008-04-07 18:36:28
282.   Zack
Thanks guys, all good to know, Obviously, the less mediumballs the better for Moose I am thinking in general. Generally stick to the slower slowest, with the occasional slow...
2008-04-07 18:36:46
283.   weeping for brunnhilde
278 "Good" in that he can hit the ball hard, when he hits it.

Not someone I'd ever hope was coming to the dish, though.

2008-04-07 18:37:08
284.   SF Yanks
278 That's what I hear, but since we've had him, it sure hasn't seemed like it.
2008-04-07 18:37:13
285.   weeping for brunnhilde
Derek would have had that.
2008-04-07 18:39:51
286.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow, check out Farnsworth!
2008-04-07 18:39:59
287.   Alex Belth
Fine outing for Moose. Man, A Rod JUST missed a couple of fastballs in his fourth at bat. Made me wanna go, "Uhhhh."
2008-04-07 18:40:03
288.   OldYanksFan
I (heart) Farnsey!
2008-04-07 18:40:12
289.   RIYank
280 I have no confidence in Kyle. What I meant was this will be a good day for him to eat an inning. So he won't pitch again soon.

Although this went well, I have to say.

2008-04-07 18:40:24
290.   Just fair
My weatherman just announced that the sky is falling. Ah well, good for you Farsny.
2008-04-07 18:40:37
291.   ChrisS
Words I don't ever think that I've strung together before: "Farnsworth, 1, 2, 3."
2008-04-07 18:41:10
292.   OldYanksFan
Dorf for the 9th?
2008-04-07 18:41:32
293.   Mattpat11
I missed Kyle's inning watching this

2008-04-07 18:42:44
294.   OldYanksFan
Demi looks more and more like Morticia Adams.
2008-04-07 18:42:57
295.   weeping for brunnhilde
280 All right, I'll try, but it won't be easy.
2008-04-07 18:44:07
296.   weeping for brunnhilde
A very nice play by Pena to rob Melkman.
2008-04-07 18:44:22
297.   Zack
Sometimes Singleton really just nails things. Case in point, his discussion of 1B fielding...
2008-04-07 18:44:45
298.   markp
How many back-up IF are there with 97 career OPS+?
If you take out the few ABs this year and in his two cups of coffee early in his career, he's never had a season with an OPS+ under 100. How many BUIF do you know who've never had a season under 100 OPS+?
2008-04-07 18:45:42
299.   yankeemonkey
275 As long as it's not meatballs...
2008-04-07 18:46:01
300.   SF Yanks
293 I demand 2min and 54sec of my life back.
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2008-04-07 18:46:09
301.   Zack
293 Politics aside, woah, that was freaky...
2008-04-07 18:46:13
302.   weeping for brunnhilde
"Wilson Betemit has looked a little confused at the plate," says Flash.

I love when Flash gets wry.

2008-04-07 18:46:32
303.   OldYanksFan
Pena is an amazing pickup for TB. Too bad we didn't have enough time to give him.
2008-04-07 18:46:49
304.   RIYank
Come on, we need a couple of hits now.
2008-04-07 18:47:27
305.   Mattpat11
301 Check out "Its Raining McCain"

I'm a big Mac supporter, but these are hilarious.

2008-04-07 18:48:08
306.   Mattpat11
303 Well, we did, but we chose not to.
2008-04-07 18:49:00
307.   Shaun P
Well, so much for Abreu's cycle, or A-Rod's home run for Chyll.

Chyll, are you out there? Abreu's home run was pretty sweet, right?

295 That's exactly what the DT guys said - it wouldn't be easy. But like markp lays out in 298 - BUIF who hit like Betemit don't grow on trees.

Good, good, Hawkins for the 9th. Another nice, easy 1-2-3 inning please. And another sub-3-hour game!

2008-04-07 18:49:44
308.   OldYanksFan
Hanley Ramirez starting the season with a 1.360 OPS. Was Beckett worth it?
2008-04-07 18:50:36
309.   Mattpat11
Come on Hawk!
2008-04-07 18:51:08
310.   Just fair
Great, start chanting Paul O'Neill and see if he can blow this game. That'll prove your point. Jackasses.
2008-04-07 18:51:18
311.   rbj
Enough with the Paul O'Neil chants, knuckleheads. Wanting to honor Roberto Clemente is a good reason to wear 21.
2008-04-07 18:52:42
312.   Mattpat11
2008-04-07 18:52:51
313.   weeping for brunnhilde
At least he didn't walk him.
2008-04-07 18:53:04
314.   Just fair
308 Beckett won them a world series. It may have to take a career from Hanley before any fair judgements are made.
2008-04-07 18:53:39
315.   Yankees Brasil
What a surprise, Hawkins gives up a hit
2008-04-07 18:54:27
316.   SF Yanks
312 I'm with you on McCain but in addition to the 2:54 I will also need the 2:35 of my life back please. I'll take either the time or money, whichever you prefer.
2008-04-07 18:54:46
317.   weeping for brunnhilde
He got away with that 1-1. That looked a nice pitch to clock.
2008-04-07 18:56:06
318.   Zack
Yankee fans can really be jackasses at times. I like to think that its those "post 1998" fans who also I think are the ones most passionate about the sacred holiness of Torre and his players. The "you can never say anything remotely bad about the ever" crowd...
2008-04-07 18:56:14
319.   Mattpat11
Come on Hawk!
2008-04-07 18:57:00
320.   Zack
314 Yeah, and Beckett plays the game right too. Can Hanley claim that?
2008-04-07 18:57:18
321.   Mattpat11
He certainly takes his time on he mound
2008-04-07 18:57:22
322.   Just fair
There's really no need to put the tying run at the plate here. Bleh.
2008-04-07 18:57:45
323.   weeping for brunnhilde
2008-04-07 18:57:53
324.   RIYank
313 I blame you now.
2008-04-07 18:57:57
325.   Mattpat11
Lets finish this one up LaTroy.
2008-04-07 18:58:34
326.   Zack
Ok, is it really needed to warm up Mo? Hawkins was just setting up the DP
2008-04-07 18:58:36
327.   Mattpat11
He has an ERA over nine at Yankee Stadium?
2008-04-07 18:58:38
328.   weeping for brunnhilde
I think Hawkins just doesn't have an out pitch.

His fastball is eminently hittable.

Ok, nice change there.

2008-04-07 18:58:42
329.   Just fair
320 If there's anyone who plays the game "righter" then Beckett, I haven't seen him. ; )
2008-04-07 18:59:01
330.   Mattpat11
One more LT
2008-04-07 18:59:07
331.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice, two outs.
2008-04-07 18:59:29
332.   Mattpat11
329 Traht
2008-04-07 19:00:02
333.   Zack
Hawkins has a very strange stretch motion, seems like he shows the ball a lot, no?
2008-04-07 19:00:49
334.   Mattpat11
That hit him.

The umpire has 10:30 dinner plans

2008-04-07 19:01:11
335.   weeping for brunnhilde
Hmmm...2-1, what to do, what to do...
2008-04-07 19:01:28
336.   Zack
Lets go Hawk'
2008-04-07 19:01:29
337.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice little slider.
2008-04-07 19:01:54
338.   Mattpat11
Good job Hawk
2008-04-07 19:01:56
339.   Just fair
Moose + Bruney + Farsworth + Hawkings - Jeter = win.
I bet this is the only time this happens this year, but that might just be the ledge talking. Now let's go Sweep dem Royals.
2008-04-07 19:01:56
340.   Zack
Nice! Boo that mofos!
2008-04-07 19:02:02
341.   SF Yanks
333 Sure seems that way.

Hawkins seems extremely hittable.

But not right there!

2008-04-07 19:02:13
342.   weeping for brunnhilde
Thanks for swinging at that one, Gomes!


Nice job, Hawkins, nice win, Team!

2008-04-07 19:02:45
343.   RIYank
Hawkins survives. We didn't have to use a good relief pitcher!
2008-04-07 19:02:50
344.   Mattpat11
Mussina ties Bob Gibson.

Put the man in the Hall.

2008-04-07 19:02:58
345.   Shaun P
328 Agreed, which is the problem with Hawkins. He doesn't strike people out anymore.

Well, at least the ump is calling the ball 3 inches off the plate a strike for everyone.

And, of course, now LTH strikes Gomes out. On a foul tip, but still.

Phew! nice to get another win! 2 in a row for the first time all season!

2008-04-07 19:03:26
346.   Zack
And Prince Phil tomorrow! I totally look forward to his starts, silly as that might be...
2008-04-07 19:04:00
347.   SF Yanks
Someone tell Bobby how to bend the bill of his cap.
2008-04-07 19:05:07
348.   Shaun P
344 Here, here! Or perhaps the BBWAA will try to Blyleven him. I hope not.

318 Agreed. The one advantage to the Yanks losing for a couple of years in a row would be that maybe, just maybe, those idiots would go away.

2008-04-07 19:05:46
349.   SF Yanks
246 Silly? Are you kidding me? Each of his starts is like an Opening Day feeling for me.
2008-04-07 19:06:19
350.   SF Yanks
349 Make that 346
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2008-04-07 19:09:46
351.   Zack
349 I definitely put way more into his starts than anyone else's, Kennedy or Joba's appearances included. I guess since I've been tracking him since his first season and he is the representation for the "new" Yanks for me I have a special liking for him. But I closely anticipate, scrutinize, and even fret over his starts far more than anything else WRT the Yanks...
2008-04-07 19:17:06
352.   SF Yanks
351 I couldn't agree more. Last season I DVR'd all his starts and I would re-watch it before his next one. I will continue that this season just because I think it's so much fun to watch/analyze him pitch. As much as I love Jete, Mo, and Po I haven't been able to say I had a favorite player since Bernie. Hughes easily slips into that new role. Plus he has Nolan Ryan's number. Icing on the cake.
2008-04-07 19:34:07
353.   Mattpat11
Mussina doesn't look very happy.
2008-04-07 19:58:31
354.   rsmith51
346 Agreed, I look the most forward to Phil's starts. I really want him to have a great year.
2008-04-07 20:26:00
355.   Chyll Will
Thanks for picking up ya boy, Bobby! And thanks, Mr. Mussina; well done. See you all later, and thanks for all the well wishes!! >;)
2008-04-07 20:29:40
356.   Chyll Will
48 Domo Arigato, Mr. Tokyo >;)
2008-04-07 20:55:48
357.   Shaun P
Sorry, Bama. It was the free throws, I think.

Maybe next year!

Off topic - a 5-point plan?! Governors?! What's next, Red Sox Nation Currency? Secession from the Union?

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