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The Yanks beat the Astros 7-6 this afternoon to run their spring record to 2-0-1.
Lineup:
L - Johnny Damon (LF)
S - Melky Cabrera (CF)
L - Robinson Cano (2B)
R - Shelley Duncan (DH)
R - Morgan Ensberg (1B)
S - Wilson Betemit (3B)
R - Jason Lane (RF)
S - Francisco Cervelli (C)
R - Chris Woodward (SS)
Pitchers: Mike Mussina, Jeff Karstens, Edwar Ramirez, Steven Jackson, Daniel McCutchen, Mark Melancon
Subs: Cody Ransom (1B), Bernie Castro (2B), Alberto Gonzalez (SS), Nick Green (3B), Kyle Anson (C), Jose Tabata (RF), Brett Gardner (CF), Austin Jackson (LF), Greg Porter (DH)
Opposition: The Astros starters.
Big Hits: Doubles by Melky Cabrera (2 for 3, BB), Shelley Duncan (2 for 4), and Morgan Ensberg (2 for 4). Robinson Cano went 3 for 4.
Who Pitched Well: Everyone except Mussina. The five Yankee relievers combined for this line: 7 IP, 4 H, 1 R (0 ER), 0 BB, 4 K. Jeff Karstens delivered three strong innings of relief, working around a single and a double by striking out two and getting four other outs on the ground. Jackson pitched a perfect inning. Melancon erased an error in the ninth by inducing a double play to face the minimum.
Who Didn't: Mussina, who allowed five runs (four earned) on six hits in two-plus innings without striking out a batter. Moose breaks down his outing here. In summary, he was getting lots of early two-strike counts, but lacked command and an out pitch and thus was making mistakes in the zone (he threw a whopping 83 percent of his 40 pitches for strikes) and getting hit. The bulk of the damage occurred when he came back out for the third inning and gave up a pair of singles (an infield job by Kaz Matsui and a solid shot by Lance Berkman) and a three-run homer to Carlos Lee. Moose's outing is yet another reminder that it's very early in spring training, though it's worth noting that a lack of an out pitch is what got him bumped from the rotation down the stretch last year.
Oopsies: A bunch: Morgan Ensberg booted one in the first. In the second, with Hunter Pence on second, Jose Cruz Jr. singled to right field, Ensberg made an attempt at the ball (Mark Feinsand thinks he perhaps should have gotten to it), drawing Mussina toward first to cover the bag, Jason Lane then threw wild to the plate, and Mussina was caught out of position, leaving no one backing up the play and allowing Cruz to move to second. Later in the game, Alberto Gonzalez made a throwing error and Cody Ransom booted one in the ninth.
Ouchies: Hideki Matsui apparently tweaked his neck while swinging a bat a couple of days ago, but was still scheduled to take BP today.
Bonus Cut: Third baseman Marcos Vechionacci, another low-minors player with zero chance of factoring into a position battle, was reassigned to minor league camp.
More: This is utterly unrelated, but fun stuff from Jack Curry on some old cat-and-mouse games between Jason Giambi and David Cone.
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Still though, he's pretty much got the floor part all set. he's a very good defensive C and probably will be able to at worest not embarrase himself with the bat. the only question is wether he could take one more step foward with the bat and become a starter instead of a backup.
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This guy might spawn an entire industry.
Besides, Romine and Montero are projected to be good, but both need still need at least two years of seasoning in which alot could happen. And even then, Montero's no sure thing to stick at catcher, but if he does, wow.
I'm liking the "hold onto all prospects" approach. It's by luck Cano and Wang are still on the team, and we just missed trading Hughes and Melky. If the Yanks continue to develop their own and sign free agents when appropriate, they'll always be fine.
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Any other day we'd be thrilled.
12 Indeed, great pic! The kid's a natural!
10 I think "hold all prospects" is as short-sighted as "trade all prospects." Prospects are commodities, and keeping them all isn't necessarily the best way to maximize their value. Yeah, we're lucky they didn't trade Cano or Wang, but are you sorry that they traded Navarro & Halsey?
Also 17 has it right. Molina is overpaid. His contract is not a good one for a back-up catcher, which is all he is.
17 If Navarro hits like he did in the second half of last season (.285/.340/.475 albeit in less than 200 ABs), then yes, I will be very sorry that they traded him. Unless Cervelli puts up numbers like that in the bigs in his age-24 season (2010), in which case, no worries.
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17 Well, it depends on what you mean by "prospect". Still, show me the last decent trade the Yanks gave up prospects to get prospects. Giving up prospects to get proven talent is another beast. Even then, point to the last trade that worked out well. The sad thing is, giving up Vazquez, Halsey, and Navarro plus a ton of cash (for Vazquez and Unit) was way too much for what they got back. They didn't give up true prospects for Abreu, Betemit, or Molina. Maybe Clippard counts but everything I've read says he'll be lucky to be a MLB starter. Unless they truly have no use for a "prospect" (see Clippard and Henry), I see no reason making deals involving prospects. Santana would have qualified as something I'm against, as would whatever it takes to get Nick Johnson. I'd rather see them develop their own and use their financial muscle in the draft and in the free agent market. That, to me, is a recipe for long-term success.
21 If Navarro hits at that clip, then yes, the Yankees will regret dealing him. Of course, Navarro's OPS+ for the whole year was 70, and much of his second half surge occurred in September, a month that often can be misleading for teams not in contention.
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Sure, some are younger and some are slightly better hitters and some aren't guaranteed those ABs this year. But Molina gets bonus points for his defense. The bottomline is he's a borderline starter. Two years at 4 million is a fair deal, especially as insurance for Jorge.
I am also not sure I agree that holding onto prospects is a recipe for long-term success (holding onto stud, blue chips might be, but not prospects in general). Think about the recent championship run...guys like Cone, Tino and Knoblauch were all acquired in exchange for prospects. If the right deal can be made, the Yankees shouldn't shy away from dealing prospects as a rule. Like all things, context is extremely relevant.
Sure, rules are made to be broken. But I'd venture it's not a bad one for this organization.
30 Oh, absolutely. If they're going to be lost in the Rule V or as free agents, better to move them. A part of me as sad to see Clippard go, but it doesn't look like he's going to be much, and they may have gotten something in Albaladejo. That's an instance where they didn't wait too long nor give up too early.
33 If I were to agree with anything here, it's that!
And remember. the RJ trade wasn't really Halsey and Navvaro, it was more like Halsey + Navvaro + Nick Johnson + Juan Rivera.
THAT is pretty painful. esipcailly in 05/06 when we were force to choose between the horrors of Giambi's glove of Andy Phillips bat at first while Nick Johnson had a OBP well north of .400 and plaing Terrance Long in the OF when Juan was hitting 20+ bombs.
missed in Navvaro's so far impotent bat is that last couple of year he was arguablly the best defensive catcher in the game. that's pretty special. espically considering that over half the pitching staff probably has no clue on how to hold a major league runner on.
The Yankees did pull a prospect for prospect trade almost a decade ago... that in retro spect is probalby pretty bad.
February 1, 1999: the New York Yankees traded Mike Lowell to the Florida Marlins for Mark J. Johnson, Ed Yarnall, and Todd Noel (minors).
Johnson never made the club, Yarnall pitched a little in 99 then bombed, and Noel went no where. meanwhile Lowell hasn't been a super star but he's really a ton better then Aaron Boone, Ruben Ventura and to some extend even Scott Brosius.
Not to meantion the most horrific trade a prospect for vets move of all time during the Steinbriener era .... that Sienfield punchline trade....
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