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For all of the hype about the kind of character it takes to win championships, it also takes a certain amount of luck. Takes both, not always in equal measure. When Eli and Plax could not hook up on that play with the Giants leading 10-7, I thought it'd be the moment they'd most regret should they have lost the game. But then, how about that improbable David Tyree catch? Are you kidding me? That was the Bucky Dent moment of the game. How did Manning not get sacked? How did Tyree manage to come down with that ball? Talk about the All-Schoolyard Play of the season! Then Eli made a few more key passes, including the game-winner. Good for him.
Of course, much of the credit for the win goes to New York's defense.
Have to say, their coach aside (who manages to be terse and dour in victory as well as defeat), the Pats were gracious in defeat. Reminded me a little bit of when the Yanks lost the D-Backs in '01. Tom Brady is a class act.
It is snowing in Manhattan this morning. Andy Pettitte visits Washington today. But right now, the city is alive with the Giants' stunning Super Bowl win. Congrats G-Men, you done made the city proud.
Controversial statement of the day: Justin Tuck deserved the MVP.
I wouldn't protest at all if they gave it to Tuck, but I think Eli's performance (and name) made it easier to honor him than to single out any of the defensemen -- even a standout like Tuck. Strahan, Mitchell and Alford also got to Brady. Collectively they were on him all day.
Eli stayed on his feet and carried his team on a stunning - historic championship drive. He deserves the trophy as much as anyone.
But that was a much better game than I anticipated and congrats to the G-men.
That scramble and catch go right up there with the most amazing plays I've ever seen. What a game.
Give 'em all MVP trophies - they all earned them.
Welker should have won the MVP. I have never bought into the idea that the MVP must come from the winning team. I'm a huge Giants fan, and I still think Thurman Thomas deserved the MVP in 1991.
If I had to pick a Giant this year, I would have gone with someone on defense--maybe a shared MVP, like they did with the '78 Cowboys (Martin/White).
All this being said, Eli played a heckuva game, so no real injustice.
Thurman Thomas had a great game but part of the reason he got all those yards in the SB was because the Giants game-planned to allow that to happen, in order to contain Kelly and that no huddle offense.
That Alford sack was amazing. Tyree's catch, even more so.
The MVP has to be someone on the defense, but that last drive makes Eli an acceptable choice.
My main point is that I do not think that MVP should be restricted to the winning team, and that this game reminded me of SB XXV, where the most impressive individual performance (at least speaking in simple, simplistic terms) was turned in by a player for the losing squad, while the winners had a more "team" effort with no real standout.
Wow, that was a run-on sentence, no?
True, he played a great game, and if the Pats had won, Welker should have been the MVP, but Tuck took away the "step up in the pocket" the entire game. Tuck was the MVP.
In the end though I don't care. One of my favorite things in sports is when a team that nobody thought could win a championship does. At the beginning of the season, nobody would have picked the G-men. At the end of the season, nobody would have picked them either. But they're a damn good team, and that Spagnulo guy is amazing.
If I was a professional athlete whose team was in a position to win a championship, but failed, no matter how good I played, or how hard I tried, I don't think I'd want a trophy or ceremony afterward.
Better that the MVP goes to a reluctant hero (like Eli or Tuck), than to even the most honorable or deserving loser (for lack of a better word) - in my opinion.
Well, that was your first mistake! : )
I agree with you--it was a fun, fun, frustrating, but fun season and an amazing game. It's games like this, in fact, that make sport so compelling.
14 Yup. What he said.
Along with the 'winning team unless obvious' there's also 'winning quarterback unless obvious' I suppose. It also isn't that important, in the scheme of things. The game was won in the TWO lines along with a slew of breaks going Giants way (fumbles not recovered, the missed late IC - how DID he miss that one? - and HelmetCostume). Absent the Helmeteer, this morning we're all dumping on Eli for overthrowing Burress, showing nerves and lack of poise ...
Margins are small in games this tight.
Of course, in retrospect, it might have screwed them up, but we'll never know for sure.
16 "that Spagnulo guy is amazing"
The Giants damn well better not let the Redskins get their hands on him as the head coach. Spagnuolo looks like a keeper.
I'm not sure punting there is so stupid, if you trust your punter can get the ball inside the 20. Easier said than done, of course.
A hint of the domestic issues that drew Don Mattingly away from his hitting coach position with the Dodgers revealed themselves this weekend when his estranged wife, Kim, was arrested on charges of public intoxication and disorderly conduct, according to Kate Braser of the Evansville Courier-Press.
Wow
http://tinyurl.com/245uq8
(he's buying sean henn a dinner in exchange for the number.)
Speaking of angel dust, is it just me, or is that a near obsolete term--a remnant of the 80's. It seems that it's referred to only exclusively as PCP these days. Maybe angel dust was deemed as too appealing-sounding. Anyway, I still remember that after school special about that drug. Scared me sober all these years. Bless that heavy-handed program and my impressionable ten year-old mind.
Still, it sounds like she is just battling the bottle, which is enough of a problem itself. I hope Kim gets it together.
Hey, anyone else feel that we need another, backup type, innings eating SP? Between our 6 SPs, we only have 5 SPs worth of innings.
If we have any injuries, or Moose stinks, it will be like last year. I hate to see Cashman tempted to overuse the 3 Amigos.
*Yes, I left Igawa out. I still think he becomes a lefty reliever. If he's in the rotation, things have gone "this is worse than 2007" bad.
My rotation now is...
Wang
Pettitte
Moose
Hughes
Joba
with IPK in the pen as a swing man/spot starter. But you almost have to rotate Hughes and Joba and IPK or have to put Hughes and Joba on 6 inning maximums. If not, they are both gonna be unavailable at the end of the season.
The problem that creates is with the bullpen.
First of all, since this is Video Game land, I had an unexpected wrinkle to deal with when Rivera retired at the end of the 2007 season. I decided not to go with a designated closer, instead choosing to go for matchups, or whoever has the best control. But getting from the 6th inning to the end of the game has been a struggle.
Farnsworth is sporting a 5+ ERA, Veras is streaky as hell, Ohlendorf is homer prone, Britton was so bad I had to send him down, and Latroy has been decent in limited use.
Even though I'm only playing a video game, I don't think the above scenario (minus Rivera retiring) is all that far from what is expectable.
And yes, I know I'm a nerd.
Er... OK... I'm down eith that.
But what's William's excuse?
Yes, punting at the 49 is stupid, almost retarded, borderline brain dead.
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