Baseball Toaster was unplugged on February 4, 2009.
A few years ago, I was part of a three-man panel at the Y on the upper west side. The topic was blogging and the sports world. Matt Cerrone, whose Metsblog was picked up by SNY last year, and Will Leitch, the founder of Deadspin, and I spoke in front of a modest crowd. Allen Barra was the moderator. Will was charismatic, funny and exceedingly bright, and while I'm only an occasional reader of Deadspin, I'll not soon forget the impression he made on him that evening. (Here I was thinking that I was going to be the charismatic, charming one!) Mostly what I remember about Will is his stance regarding the traditional media. Essentially, Will said that in the modern age of the Internet and satalitte TV, the role of the traditional beat writer has become marginalized to the extent that fans don't really care what those reporters provide. While I wasn't completely sold on Will's theory, I sure found him convincing.
Leitch expands on his thinking in his new book, God Save the Fan: How Preening Sportscasters, Athletes Who Speak in the Third Person, and the Occasional Convicted Quarterback Have Taken the Fun Out of Sports. There is a serious-minded political agenda in this breezy volume which takes the mickey out of just about everyone, particularly the folks at the Worldwide Leader, ESPN. But the writing is not pedantic or boring because Leitch is too busy being funny--another tough trick to pull off for a couple of hundred pages. Somehow, he manages to find just the right tone, and the book is a gas. I found myself laughing out loud often--something that rarely happens to me--and was left with a similiar feeling than the one I had when I met Will at the Y--that of being duly impressed.
Worth checking out.
Hey, you called me Alexander. How cool. I love that name, it's my full name, but it's such a mouthful, I just go by Alex, even Al. LOL.
Man, Will, Alex and Cerrone together together on one panel, wish I'd caught that.
We are THERE, and I'm surprised how fast the Net became the far superior way to get one's baseball fix.
So what happens to ESPN, Fox, et al? Do they become the National Enquirer of Sports? Will basically all 'news' become ARod taking off his shirt, moralizing on DUI's and reporting made up trade info?
With all the money, access to 'professional' writers, and press passes that allow all kinds of inside info, traditional sports media still stinks compared to the Net, and I will guess will only get worse.
Did the Big Boys really drop the ball? Is this IBM and the Personal PC (no future, why build it) all over again?
Will Radio and TV be next? Will games be commentated (commentated?) by guys like Will and Alex and Cliff? Certainly very few would tune into ESPN if our best Bloggers were calling the game.
It will be very interesting to see how this all shakes out. There's billions of dollars involved. Will they be reallocated?
It would be interested to have a discussion of the future of Sports 'reporting', and what the Net's and traditional media's roles will end up being.
Rather, I think what we're going to see happening is that slowly the professional writers will be shuttled onto the internet en masse. Newspapers are slow, and their content these days is typically obsolete by the time it gets to the reader. The internet is open 24 hours, and if we the readers want to stop by the diner of information for a late night waffle, it's there for us.
Pete Abraham showcases the future of beat writers: open access and immediate information.
As for game commentary, I know that I'd rather watch the game on mute and hang out at Bronx Banter than listen to any broadcast booth...
6 oyf, you raise an interesting point about all the money involved. it will be interesting to see how funding will now be allocated.
what i still don't get is how many people i encounter in various forums that despise many of the announcers, i think especially on national broadcasts (for all sports), yet these people are continually employed. how is that?
However, Alex: I really don't think you want to put me on the same list as those guys 4 . I spent 10 minutes last night trying to figure out how to split a $38 dinner check three ways.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/52324
;-)
4. Joba Chamberlain
34. Ian Kennedy
47. Austin Jackson
48. Jose Tabata
67. Alan Horne
And just for shits and giggles:
2. Clay Buchholz
16. Jacoby Ellsbury
53. Justin Masterson
57. Jed Lowrie
60. Ryan Kalish
95. Michael Bowden
100. Lars Anderson
65. Carlos Gomez
79. Delois Guerra
3 Joba
21 Tabata
24 Jackson
45 Kennedy
100 Brackman
And to finish the loop:
4 Buccholz
19 Ellsbury
28 Anderson
55 Lowrie
58 Masterson
14 And
35 C Gomez
80 D Guerra
In many cases, access directly impacts accuracy. We've seen this in both political and sports coverage. Writers with access get inside information, but that inside info isn't necessarily accurate.
See: http://tinyurl.com/3yzpfd
On the other hand, the internet gives the news consumer a real edge. When ESPN reports that the Twins have decided to deal Santana for 2 ham sandwiches lovingly prepared by Omar Minaya, it's much easier to surf around the web and discover that no, in fact it was 4 ham sandwiches and a pickle wedge. On a less specific level, on the internet it's much easier to assemble a variety of viewpoints and then decide which one convinces you.
I tend to think that we'll see the standard media outlets using their dollars to create internet beach heads that the blogger-on-the-virtual-street can only dream of. As is already happening already, ESPN etc. will initially keep their information behind a firewall, which will eventually crumble because (given the speed at which information is shot through the Yankee-Blogosphere) we can all get that information for free anyway.
16 http://tinyurl.com/2p88kc -- it's coming! It's coming! It's coming!
Their idea of analysis is to repeat whatever management tells them and rip whatever unions are involved. Their take on the use of baseball stats is to use them only when it 'proves' their point and mock them otherwise.
There's very little to offer at places like ESPN outside of looking up the scores (and boxscores) of events you missed.
You play loose and fast with the facts like they do on a decent blog and you get called out for it. Mike Lupica would be the laughingstock of any sports blog worth its weight.
6 I think this is where it might go, and soon: interactive media where a crawl will appear on the bottom or side of the screen showing blog comments. What would be awesome is if we could tune into our favorite blog (i.e. Banter, etc) and do our thing on-screen alongside the TV action. Of course, there'd have to be some massive moderation on such a venture, but if internet is where the action is, I trust that TV will find a way to incorporate that into their sports programming.
"Subscribe to the Bronx Banter Channel and banter on TV during the game!" I see something like this happening, only my vision allows you to pick the blog you tune into on-screen. So if you can't/won't chat on Banter, you can choose LoHud or some other running-commentary blog of choice. Whaddaya think?
10 You'll do... >;)
The other things to remember is that we are all hardcore fans. There are plenty of casual fans for whom the typical beat writer summary in the local paper is exactly what they want.
Case in point - my dad. He understands the more advanced analysis that we often discuss and debate here. He loves baseball. But on the rare occasions he misses part or all of a game, the summary in the paper, or the AP recap online, or the highlights on YES/ESPN, are all he needs. He knows enough to ignore crappy analysis, he avoids the columnists in the fish rags, and he's quite happy.
As long as the more casual fans outnumber the more hardcore fans, there will always be a large place for the News, the Post, and the ESPN/FoxSports of the world, too.
TV already has picture in picture.
Just imagine 1 'picture' is an internet access screen.
MLB owns the transmission rights to games and sells them to TV/radio stations, who provide the cameras and mics. Right now, via MLB TV, you can buy a month or a years worth of games. I sure theny will sell game packages soon. ie: 7 games for $5. All TVs and TV transmissions will be digital hi-def within 2 year (digital transmission by 2009 is mandated by the FCC). So, I think soon there will be very little difference between our TVs and computer monitors, and that the Net and our TV/Computer screens will be integrated. Voice to text software will soon be ferfected, so we can talk to the TV and have the TEXT of our speech posted on the blogs.
Of course, our interaction will be more like a conference call using IM, and we will be able to dynamically type/speak messages and post pictures (with the moderators approval). Alex will have a mic and will verbally announce the games for us. We will have guess announcers, with video cuts to alex during commercials.
Just like we have video and 'radio' blogs now, those blogs, like BB, will announce games.
I imagine you will be able to click 'live' on a player on the TV and have his stats posted, bio info, and other stuff. TV, phone and internet will continue to merge until they are one.
I'm pretty sure the technology is here already. I imagine we will be able to size the picture in picture screen sizes, and will have 3 or 4, long, narrow (for 3 lines of text) screens to participate in multiple blogs while watching a game.
Large Internet provides may buy rights to the game and broadcast directly to the consumer. Maybe 50 static cameras will be set up, and we can choose which camera we want to view on which of our P-in-P screens.
It's all coming, and 2009 is the magic year, as the FCC has mandated in digital transmissions by then.
P.S. Game ticket prices may actually come down at some time, because the TV experience will be soon good with 100" screens, multiple P-in-P screens, all kinds of dynamic onlive data access, conference calling, etc., they only diehards will actually schlep out to the Bronx.
This is from his blog:
http://philhughes.wordpress.com/
I know I mentioned in the Q&A that I wasn't planning on changing my number. Well that has changed. A number change is in the works. Not sure exactly what it is going to be yet, but I thought I would throw it out there.
As cool as all this is, we are still in the infancy of the internet. Soon, everove will have Hi-Speed, large screens and voice actuation.
Alex will get smart and charge $20/year for access, and with thousands, or tens of thousands of participants, will make it a fuller time job of it.
My guess is ISPs will soon sell all different size packages of games. Some will pay $50 month for full channel access, others will just pay a few bucks per game. The video and audio portions will be separate, and will will be able to mix and match, and choose Alex or any blogger for the audio.
I don't know how ESPN et al will be able to compete if they don't produce a better product.
(the Santana nightmare is not over yet)
Indications are that the Mets want to limit the guaranteed portion of the extension to five years, not including Santana's current contract, which expires after 2008. So if Santana's side is adamant that the deal extend beyond 2013, it's believed the Mets would insist that the back end of the contract not be guaranteed, but could include at least one vesting option year."
I AM SOOOO GLAD THE YANKEES DID NOT DO THIS.
Maybe he's requesting Santana's jersey number just to make sure the nightmare is over.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3224591
Ca$hmoney!
560 AB .937 OPS
.284/.406/.530
He hasn't been healthy the last 2+ years ... but he walks a lot and has pop ...
He seems like a pretty grounded dude, and I figure him for a .365 OBP and pop guy, for the Yankees.
"I'd laugh long and hard directly into the phone before turning it down, though."
That's about what I imagine Cashman doing.
Having said that, I agree that the mainstream media is becoming less relevant, not only to hardcore fans, but also mid-level fans, although its hold on the more casual masses is still pretty tight.
33 I don't think health has been a problem as his manager hating that he wasted ABs doing things like walk (although, if Ausmus, Everett, et al. was batting behind you, walking might not be the best idea).
42 An Ensberg/Betemit platoon could really work nicely. I can't see why the Yankees wouldn't give that a try. At the very least, Ensberg beats having A.G. or Nick Green fill out that final spot.
He's also not very versatile. His experience at 1b consists of 4 AAA appearances in 2002 and one game last year (with an error). He's never played outfield. Basically, what he can do is play 3b, which is really low on our list of priorities.
Yanks in '07 vs LHP: .284/.362/.427
Yanks in '07 vs RHP: .292/.367/.477
Otherwise, I agree with you. The key is to have spring training to look at him, which is why this was the right contract.
An improvement, but not light years better.
*Giambi's numbers have got to be a fluke, don't they?, but I don't have time to check them right now.
Basically you're talking about carrying a second, less useful Shelley Duncan. That's nice if there's an injury, I suppose, but until then it's dead space. (You don't need anyone to spell Rodriguez.)
On any given day, the bench will consist of Molina; two of Damon/Giambi/Duncan/Betemit; and one other guy. I'd rather not use that on a role as limited as the one you're describing for Ensberg. If you do, he'd better really mash the hell out of the ball and be able to play first base with some regularity.
As for killing the LOOGY: you're giving up an out in the process, which negates the advantage you might have gained. Also, Melky and Abreu are the ones you'd be most likely to pinch-hit for - and since Ensberg is so limited, you have to use another player or move people around. Let's say Damon is the DH - you can't PH for Melky at all then.
I really think that, in order to justify a roster spot, he'll have to beat Shelley Duncan out for a job. I also think it's worth having an alternative to Duncan in camp, because we still really have no idea how good he is. But carrying both of them would be a waste.
When you consider that the bench you listed consists of 3 lefties and 1 righty (Molina excluded because he would never PH), then I think Ensberg definitely fits the bill. Even if he can't play 1B, I don't see what's so limiting about a well above average bat against LHP who can play 3B if needed. What more do they need? I guess you could argue a defensive whiz at SS would be more useful, but Jeter isn't coming out for defense, so what's the point.
I also don't agree that Duncan and Ensberg are mutually exclusive because one is an OF and the other is an IF (although Shelley, like Ensberg will likely pick up a 1B mitt quite a bit in ST). The bottom line is both have the potential to be useful bats occupying the 25th spot. If you could suggest a more useful player for that spot on the roster, maybe you'd have a stronger point.
Finally, I think the LOOGY point is you could potentially use Ensberg to face a nasty lefty immediately as he enters the game, in which case he'd be required to face a batter. Also, for very late in the game, you could use an Ensberg to hit for a lefty and, if he is countered with a RHP, Girardi could fire back with Matsui/Damon/Giambi/Betemit. Having Ensberg could allow the Yankees arsenal of lefties to hit in a more favorable match up.
I realize I am making too much of this signing, but as one who has advocated the Yankees pursuing Ensberg for a couple of years, I very happy that they finally took what is a riskless proposition. And, with Girardi at the helm, I am more confident he'll be given a real opportunity to contribute.
His ability to play 3B is completely irrelevant to the Yankees. Rodriguez plays every day - without ill effect - and they've already got Betemit.
At minimum, I'd like to see one bench player who can pinch-run occasionally. I see that as a greater late-inning need, and one that no one else fills. Ensberg was a good fit before they had Duncan, but if he's not a 1b, he's not a good fit anymore.
The Yankees have tried the PR route and it never seems to work (especially the way Torre would use it). Unless you have a guy who is a guarateed SB, I see that as being more of a waste. Regardless, the Yankees don't seem to have an ideal PR type anyway, so it's a moot point.
58 Perhaps, but I really believe Ensberg can be an impact bat against Lefties. I also think he'll adapt to 1B and that he and Betemit could form a very productive platoon.
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