"I did receive one tip on this topic - my guy says the Yankees are in for a bad day (but Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera are not in the report)."

ugh.

I am guessing no Red Sox(not including Canseco), but that is just my inkling with Mitchell's connection to the Red Sox. I heard that Mitchell did not talk to Canseco. I can't imagine that is true.

5 Agreed about Bernie.

Interesting that Rowand just signed yesterday...

7 theres also clemens/pettitte's trainer who was interviewed by the mitchell people.

clemens wouldnt surprise me, but pettitte would be a stab.

Good on Andy sticking up for CMW, but "I'm so high on Wang" is one of the funniest things I've read recently.

(look im quoting me!)

- 1919: 408,277
- 1920: 570,055 (record)
- 1921: 537, 957
- 1922: 551,011
- 1923: 542,025
-1924: 599,755 (record)
- 1925: 596,285
- 1926: 614,561 (record)
-1927: 620,179 (record)
- 1928: 568,893
- 1929: 599,261
- 1930: 633,266 (record, not broken until 1945)

I'm surprised names haven't leaked. It could mean players from the dynasty years - or it could mean current players. My biggest fear is a player who had a career year in his mid 30s at a position that dovetails at that age.

I'm sorry to see Rasner go. He was the most solid of the swing-man candidates. Then again, he was out of options, so if he would fail to make the club out of Spring Training, he'd have been gone anyway.

If Rasner becomes a solid #4 starter on another team, I'll blame Pavano.

Not that I think naming names is even useful at this point. I'm in the camp that says to forget the past and start making the penalties real from here on out.

Why this investigation wasn't performed by someone totally outside of the MLB is beyond me.

Of course the Yankees are in for a bad day, when the investigation is being run by the Red Sox.

I won't be suprised if Alex is on it. At this point, the report sounds like it's going to be long on speculation and a bit short on actual proof and his name has already been thrown out there (by Canseco). In that same regard, I won't be suprised if Clemens and Pettitte are on it.

My money's on Clemens for another slot, so that leaves two openings that could break a lot of hearts today.

Just please not A-Rod. No more drama there, PLEASE!

i'm guessing that nomar will be on the list. a token sox name to appease the torch and pitchfork wielding masses.

The real question is, how legitimate is the report? Given:

1) Zero positive drug tests are given in the report.
2) The report is being conducted by the same "honorable" senator who fudged the report in the early 1990s that said that MLB was losing money- ultimately leading to the 1994 strike.
3) That same senator is on the payroll of a baseball franchise, and so is not an objective investigator.
4) Even without the drug tests, it's likely that most "evidence" will be based on hearsay by a convicted felon and canceled checks to a disgruntled clubhouse attendant.

and, from me personally:

5) If anyone on the Yankees took a performance enhancing drug, knowingly or otherwise, before it was explicitly forbidden by the rules of Major League Baseball: I simply don't care. They took a health risk to make themselves better athletes in the short term and my team better (assuming steroids help baseball performance).

I wouldn't be surprised at any of the names on the list. Why should I?

CNN Breaking news: ESPN2: Roger Clemens listed in report due out today naming players who used performance enhancing drugs.

22 Good, let Roger draw what fire there may be.

It will be interesting to see if there are any dates associated with his "alleged" use.

I just read Selig's statement about being proud about the report. He is a such a self-righteous ass. That is a fact that will never change.

I don't know why the couldn't go to individual players, and without asking for names, just say 'How many guys on this team are you 90% sure used PEDs?'.

Ask 150 players, 5 on each team. No names every mentioned. Hopefully, with no names mentioned, guys would be pretty honest.

Releasing 50 names when there have been literally thousands of players who played during the 'steroid era' does little to gauge the impact PEDs have had on MLB.

Knowing that 'over the last 10 year, based on player surveys, we estimate 20% of players have used PEDs' would be a lot more informative, give us an idea of the scope of the problem, and take away any aspect of witchhunts and sensationalization.

To me, if you want to point fingers at names, and really expose the 2 people who had by FAR the biggest responsibility for PEDs in MLB, you have to point at Bud Selig and Donald Fehr. It is time to stop blaming soldiers and start holding the Generals accountable.

Plus, the Sox hate Clemens.

Scott Boras, who represents a number of high-profile players including Yankee third baseman Alex Rodriguez, told the Los Angeles Times he hadn't read the report. He did, however, say he's skeptical because "the concerns of due process and the standards that apply to it are relatively unknown. Certainly, any results that occur from the report have to be looked at in the light that this is not a collectively bargained effort."

"I'm going to assume that a lot of the basis for this is hearsay information," Boras said, according to the Times. "It's not based on any kind of clinical testing, so it is widely a product of hearsay testimony. Without clinical testing or hard evidence, any report like this has to be reviewed with great scrutiny."

Frankly I thought this investigation was a flawed idea when Selig first came out with it. They had no subpoena power, no discovery authority and no ability to really dig. They could squeeze only low level employees and those whom the Commissioner's Office had some leverage on (Giambi). We went round and round on this here 20 months ago. It seems now, if we can believe what we read about asking trainers to engage in speculation, that this thing may be a wholly unreliable tapestry of rumor and innuendo. I find it hard to believe that supposedly serious and responsible people are engaging in this charade.

These findings and the resultant evaluations aren't privileged as government action or shielded under the press liable cases. My fondest wish then is that the clowns who are foisting this nonsense upon us get it wrong on someone they name and land in the middle of a great big fat Libel judgment; that would be a very big smile.

It seems to me that everyone in the game from ownership to management to players to the press and the fans turned a blind eye to this for a long time. To ask only the players to bear the brunt of our "shock and awe" now seems grossly inequitable. Forget the asterisk and the blood letting; the steroid era is part of the legacy we leave to the future. We can't cure or fix that now even by looking to Saint George for help. We need to move on, grant amnesty to those who used prior to instituting the current MLB policy and make sure we don't continue or repeat the problem. If they catch players under the current testing regime punish them. Let society punish those who broke the law. We need to move beyond this nonsense. This report won't help us do that. I'd rather go back to perseverating on a Santana deal then focus on this crap.

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I think a lot of little kids are going to be sad today.

33 agreed. only those players who are linked to the "sources" interviewed will be fingered. in the same way that the feds chose to pursue balco and thus only those players linked to balco were investigated.

37 nice. (and i too liked your piece on ww too).

36 well said.

i read somewhere that radomski is upset that more players did not have his back. so even if he is the main source of names, did he just finger the ones he was mad at and not everyone he was supposedly selling to? there are just holes on so many levels.

And if they say so-and-so is a Steroid user, yet he has passed multiple tests in the past, what does this say about testing? About MLB's solution?

This whole thing stinks.
The idea of a lawsuit to take down Selig via Mitchell has brightened my day.

But maybe the players and their hired guns can collectively respond in some way, without looking horrible? Time for those agents to start earning their tithe.

The sources would not reveal the names of players included in the report, but confirmed that as many as 80 are listed. One lawyer expected several "very, very high-level names" to be exposed..."

"I [Bud Selig] haven't seen the report yet, but I'm proud I did it"

Is there something VERY wrong with that last sentence?

52 nice.

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20071213/SPORTS/112130110

Darrel Rasner, back in the fold. We're saved!

I wonder if Nomah will be on there.

This is terrible. You've been burning the wrong women!

The Yankees will hold a conference call with Alex Rodriguez in a few minutes to announce his contract.

Kind of odd to schedule this on the same day as the Mitchell report, right?

The source said McNamee told investigators he supplied Clemens with steroids while Clemens was witih the Yankees, and prior to Clemens joining the team.

Also, The Bergen (N.J.) Record, citing a baseball industry official, says "several" prominent Yankees will be named in the Mitchell report. The paper said the source spoke to a third party who had seen the final report.

"It's going to be a rough day in the Bronx," the paper quoted the source as saying.

Guillermo Mota
Alex Sanchez
Matt Lawton
Ryan Franklin
Mike Cameron
Felix Heredia
Juan Rincon

The power of Wikipedia gives 23 other names reportedly under investigation, along with media sources:

http://tinyurl.com/37mszv

Since Lawton, Heredia, Sheffield, and Giambi can all be loosely classified as "Yankees," that may be all there is to it...

:(

http://tinyurl.com/252wkg

Witches burn.
Wood also burns, so witches are made of wood.
Wood floats.
Ducks also float.
Therefore, if she weighs the same as as duck, she's a witch.

It's a fair cop.

Should I walk you through this?

What do we burn besides witches?
And, does wood sink in water?
And what else floats in water?
Good. So, if she weighs less than a duck, then... she floats in water, and therefore... is made of wood... and so...

What if she is made of Kerry Wood? (or Wilbur Wood for that matter)

What if Miguel Cairo is on the list?

that would void the 4 championships from '96 on ....

http://tinyurl.com/2rtj4s

(if you believe the daily news.)

McNamee, who began working with Clemens in 1997 when he was with the Toronto Blue Jays, helped create extensive workouts for both Clemens and Pettitte. The former New York City cop was hired as the strength and conditioning coach for the Yankees in 2000 with Clemens' support but was not retained in 2002 after he was questioned by police in connection the sexual with the alleged sexual assault in a St. Petersburg hotel. Police said the woman ingested the date-rape drug GHB. Charges were never filed against McNamee.

I thought calling an emergency press conference to deny he was gay was despicable.

Hey, new thread!

Attendance dropped slightly in 1921, but stayed at what were then historically high levels until the early 30s, when the Depression hit hard.

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