Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Toronto Blue Jays
2007-09-11 13:07
by Cliff Corcoran
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The Yankees have played the Blue Jays six times since the All-Star break and won five of those contests. Their one loss came in Toronto in the last of those six games when Chien-Ming Wang had the worst start of his career. Since then, the Yankee have survived the tough part of their second half schedule and embarked on a current 9-3 pace which has launched them into a comfortable lead in the Wild Card race (now four games with the Tigers loss earlier today). The Blue Jays, meanwhile, have continued to be the .500 baseball team they've been all year, going 15-15 since the Yanks last left Canada. They come into tonight off a seven-game road trip on which they dropped series to the AL-best Red Sox and AL-worst Devil Rays as well as a make-up game against the Tigers last night.

One variable in this series is Troy Glaus, not because of the recent steroid allegations, but because he left yesterday's game after feeling something pop in his left foot. Glaus has had foot problems all year and has been battling plantar fasciitis, the same injury that put Jason Giambi on the shelf for more than two months (perhaps not coincidentally after a four game series on the turf in Toronto). Glaus has been tearing things up recently, hitting .372/.517/.721 since August 25. If he's hindered or unable to play at all (remember Toronto's DH slot is filled by the immovable Frank Thomas, though Glaus's bat has been much hotter of late), it will be a big break for the Yanks.

As for the Yanks, Derek Jeter is indeed in the starting lineup against Shaun Marcum tonight, as are all of the other usual suspects, with Giambi at first base, Damon in left, and Matsui at DH (though all three are struggling so much that I had hoped to see Wilson Betemit get the starts at first base against the all-righty Toronto rotation).

Marcum has gone 11-3 with a 3.45 ERA since entering the Toronto rotation in mid-May. Among his 22 starts this year are two quality outings against the Yanks in which he's posted this combined line: 12 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 5 BB, 7 K, but has only a loss and a no-decision to show for it (the Jays did win that first game). Marcum posted a 2.02 ERA in his first ten starts and has a 4.76 ERA in his last twelve, but his peripherals don't show a considerable change in effectiveness. If anything, he was a bit hit-lucky in those first ten outings, something which has ceased in the last 12, but his WHIP in those last dozen outings remains a solid 1.29, and, for what it's worth, his record has been 8-3 over those last 12 starts.

Opposing Marcum will be Phil Hughes who came up huge in the finale against the Mariners last week to pull out of a string of three poor outings. The key to that start for Hughes was a surge in his ground ball rate. Here's hoping that trend continues tonight as he faces the Blue Jays for the first time since his major league debut back in April, when he got the Blue Jays' bad hitter out, but got stung by their good hitters. The Jays are the first major league team to get a second look at Hughes.

Toronto Blue Jays

2007 Record: 72-71 (.503)
2007 Pythagorean Record: 77-66 (.536)

Manager: John Gibbons
General Manager: J. P. Riccardi

Home Ballpark (2007 Park Factors): Rogers Centre (103/103)


  • A.J. Burnett has been activated from the 15-day DL, pushing Josh Towers back to the bullpen
  • Russ Adams was recalled from triple-A
  • Joe Kennedy (who was signed to a minor league contract), Hector Luna (who was demoted in favor of Adams in August), Adam Lind, Sal Fasano, and Josh Banks were called up after rosters expanded
  • 25-man Roster:

    1B – Lyle Overbay (L)
    2B – Aaron Hill (R)
    SS – John McDonald (R)
    3B – Troy Glaus (R)
    C – Gregg Zaun (S)
    RF – Alex Rios (R)
    CF – Vernon Wells (R)
    LF – Reed Johnson (R)
    DH – Frank Thomas (R)


    L – Matt Stairs (OF/1B)
    L - Adam Lind (OF)
    S - Ray Olmedo (IF)
    L - Russ Adams (IF)
    R - Hector Luna (IF)
    R – Curtis Thigpen (C)
    R - Sal Fasano (C)


    R – Roy Halladay
    R – Shaun Marcum
    R - Dustin McGowan
    R - A.J. Burnett
    R - Jesse Litsch


    R – Jeremy Accardo
    R – Jason Frasor
    L – Scott Downs
    R – Casey Janssen
    R – Brandon League
    L – Brian Tallet
    R – Josh Towers
    R - Brian Wolf
    L - Joe Kennedy
    R - Josh Banks

    60-day DL: L – B. J. Ryan, L – Gustavo Chacin, L – Davis Romero

    Typical Lineup:

    R – Vernon Wells (CF)
    R - Reed Johnson (LF)
    R – Alex Rios (RF)
    R – Frank Thomas (DH)
    R - Troy Glaus (3B)
    L – Lyle Overbay (1B)
    R – Aaron Hill (2B)
    S - Gregg Zaun (C)
    R - John McDonald (SS)

Comments (464)
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2007-09-11 15:45:58
1.   kylepetterson
0 "Damon in left, and Matsui in left field"

As long as they don't share a uniform I'm fine with that.

2007-09-11 15:47:20
2.   Cliff Corcoran
1 Oops, Matsui at DH. Fixed above.
2007-09-11 15:47:28
3.   kylepetterson
That was quick.
2007-09-11 15:59:42
4.   randym77
Re: that "longer postseason" link in the other thread. Man, I hate Fox. Remember when they insisted on cutting away from the Sox-Yanks game to show the Cleveland game? This with the division hanging on the game.

Now they want to give teams the chance to go with only 2 or 3 starters in the postseason. That just ain't right.

Then again, given the Yanks' starting rotation, maybe I should be happy...

2007-09-11 16:04:46
5.   Zack
Man is that stadium empty
2007-09-11 16:08:01
6.   bartap74
Fox Sports has new power rankings, and the Yankees are 4th, behind Boston, Anaheim (I know, but I'm calling them Anaheim) and Cleveland.

Here's the entry for the Yanks:

The Yanks are once again surging, and they now hold a semi-comfortable lead in the AL Wild Card chase. Alex Rodriguez reached the 50-homer mark for the third time in his career, and he's on pace to finish the season with 58 bombs, which would be the second-most in Yankee franchise history. On the downside, Andy Phillips is likely done for the year, and Roger Clemens probably won't be able to return to the mound until the weekend.

So, 58 home runs would be second-most in Yankee franchise history? Is he discounting Ruth or Maris?

2007-09-11 16:18:16
7.   SF Yanks
The other night I re-watched Hughes last start (I DVR'd it). I watched every pitch and sometimes watched a pitch up to 5 times. I really dissected his last start and came away with something different than the first time I watched it. He was wild. Really wild. Through the first 4 innings he missed so badly on most of his pitches that I started laughing aloud in astonishment. If the target was inside, he missed outside. If the target was outside, he missed by 3 feet outside. He missed with his curve, fastball, and change.

Then the 5th inning came around and he was hitting his spots with regularity (for a lot of the pitches anyway). So, he's more than capable of pounding the mit when he's on, but I was blown away at how badly he was missing his pitches for most of the game.

To add to the "awe factor", when Joba came in, about half his pitches hit the mit without the catcher having to move it a centimeter. And this is with him throwing 97-98! Amazing.

It's really crucial that Phil hits his spots. If he's anything like last game, I don't suspect the results will be the same. He needs his control back.

2007-09-11 16:20:15
8.   Zack
7 Wow, impressive work SF! I think what the reconfirms us without a doubt is that the injury has really affected Hughes' mechanics (stride and arm). Phil Hughes of even immediately pre-injury has better control than anyone.
2007-09-11 16:22:22
9.   Mike T
Gameday had that third strike to Abreu as being comfrotably off the plate. How did it look to you guys watching the game?
2007-09-11 16:22:50
10.   Zack
Is it jsut me or does A-Rod look HUGE up there?
2007-09-11 16:22:57
11.   Yankees Brasil
9 It looked good, maybe a tad outside.
2007-09-11 16:23:09
12.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
That called strike 3 to Abreu looked like a bad call on gameday (course it's hard to tell now since they took the strike zone box away, primadonna umps).
2007-09-11 16:24:49
13.   SF Yanks
8 Ha, thanks. I have such an interest in these kids, and I want them to do so well that I get really involved with their starts. Perhaps too much at times. I know you have in interest too, so I'm glad I could share something. I'll be watching closely tonight too.
2007-09-11 16:25:36
14.   SF Yanks
Wow, those change-ups ate them alive.
2007-09-11 16:26:00
15.   Mike T
Geez, three straight strikeouts.
2007-09-11 16:26:21
16.   Zack
13 I'll rely on you for feedback, as I have to miss most of the game, sadly. I figure maybe Phil will do better without my prying eyes :)
2007-09-11 16:26:52
17.   Yankees Brasil
Matsui needs a week off, he looks terrible right now.
2007-09-11 16:27:19
18.   Zack
Did you guys catch this Cashman interview linked from RAB? Its really really interesting:
2007-09-11 16:29:48
19.   Mike T
Texas 1-0 Detroit bottom 1
2007-09-11 16:29:59
20.   Zack
Phil with the high cheese
2007-09-11 16:30:20
21.   SF Yanks
16 No prob. I'll be watching intently.
2007-09-11 16:31:31
22.   JeremyM
17 Matsui seems to be one of the streakiest players I can recall. He's either on fire, or completely cold.
2007-09-11 16:32:01
23.   SF Yanks
Yowzers. What was that?
2007-09-11 16:32:16
24.   JeremyM
Walking a guy batting .214 with 14 at bats, come on Phil.
2007-09-11 16:32:26
25.   Zack
Wow, what happened there Phil? I was just going to say that although its early, Hughes' command looks good. So much for that
2007-09-11 16:33:17
26.   SF Yanks
22 I think I said the same thing not too long ago. It's really strange that he's like that. One extreme or the other.
2007-09-11 16:33:55
27.   SF Yanks
It seems like Phil has trouble pitching to the left side of the plate.
2007-09-11 16:38:31
28.   bartap74
18 Thanks for the link. His discussion of the Joba rules makes it pretty clear to me that Cashman was NOT happy with Joe's bullpen management (though he tries to say the opposite).
2007-09-11 16:38:32
29.   Zack
Hughes started out strong but after that walk, his mechanics seem all out of whack again
2007-09-11 16:39:06
30.   SF Yanks
Ugh, c'mon Phil. Strikes buddy.... Oh crap my heart skipped a few beats on that...
2007-09-11 16:39:38
31.   Zack
28 Oh yeah, total indictment of Torre's BP management if i've ever seen it...
2007-09-11 16:39:57
32.   SF Yanks
29 I guess it's the pitching from the stretch deal.
2007-09-11 16:40:57
33.   Zack
That was a good curve
2007-09-11 16:41:01
34.   ny2ca2dc
SF Yanks, i agree with everything you've said - I've been referring to it as Hughes uncorking pitches, because... um... he has. He isn't getting the ball down or to the 1st base side, and is ofter missing wildly - like the first walk. And it really has been that way ever since the injury. Just really, really uncorks 'em sometimes, and the command has been more worrying that the drop in velocity.
2007-09-11 16:41:21
35.   SF Yanks
29 pitches and counting.
2007-09-11 16:41:21
36.   Robert the Robot
OK everybody, there are only 19 games left. That only leaves about a thousand chances left to buy some hair grease from Giuseppe Franco!
2007-09-11 16:42:31
37.   Mike T
30 pitches in the first. Phil needs to settle down.
2007-09-11 16:43:29
38.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
8 pitches to Hill. All away. Gameday has his fb sitting 94 and getting up to 95-6. Why is he afraid to throw cheese inside?
2007-09-11 16:43:35
39.   Mike T
Boston 0-2 Tampa top 2
2007-09-11 16:43:45
40.   Zack
Well, 2 walks and a turf gb single, a k, a pop up, and a gb out. Not great but not too bad either. Same old control issues. Good velocity. He looked good, then looked real bad, and then for that last batter looked real good again save the first pitch...

I'm off, I leave it to y'all!

2007-09-11 16:43:55
41.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Sounded like a good defensive grab from Hughes there. In the immortal words of Peter Pasquarelli "Uh..that gets...Phil..uh..Hughes..a Baby Ruth Game Bar..uh..nominee"
2007-09-11 16:46:48
42.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
How does Posada of all people "double on a soft line drive to the ss" as gameday put it?
2007-09-11 16:47:30
43.   SF Yanks
34 Yeah, by far the command is the issue here. I don't even think about the velocity anymore. Although I admit that did trouble me at first. Even Giradi is catching on. All those pitches keep sailing up and in which is primarily what happened in his last start. I almost get that feeling that he's trying so hard to aim it instead of just throwing it where he wants it to go. Of course it could all be mechanically too. On the other hand, he's so young and new, that it may be pointless trying to figure this out. But then that's just not fun is it?
2007-09-11 16:48:35
44.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Jays radio guys very big on Cano; "One of the great young stars of the game.." I love Cano but is he at that level yet?
2007-09-11 16:51:26
45.   fansince77
this is a situation that melk needs to come through in- has not been doing it lately...
2007-09-11 16:52:37
46.   SF Yanks
Ugh... Come. On.
2007-09-11 16:53:07
47.   SF Yanks
Thank you Mr. Damon!
2007-09-11 16:53:07
48.   fansince77
i'm sorry - that's just disgusting.
2007-09-11 16:53:38
49.   ny2ca2dc
43 I think it's a bit of a coping mechanism too - thinking 'he's not bad, he's just struggling cuz of xyz' is more comforting that just knowing he's struggling. Of course, the closer xyz is to the truth, the better!

Also, thanks for breaking down his last start, I was out of town (Buenos Aires buddy!) & couldn't watch, and was curious if the pitches were up to the results.

Attaboy Yankees, these 3 runs make up for having 2 on & no outs and getting diddly squat last inning!

2007-09-11 16:54:01
50.   Mike T
Well look at that. Damon is 2-2.
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2007-09-11 16:56:14
51.   ny2ca2dc
The PeteAbe reports: UPDATE, 7:24 p.m.: Shelley Duncan has "discomfort in his lower abdominal wall" and is being sent back to New York to get checked out. That is fancy medical lingo for he may have a hernia.

If Shelly's out (man would that suck for him) what about Juan Miranda to replace him? He's on the 40 man, but is a Lefty... How funny would that be.

2007-09-11 16:58:20
52.   SF Yanks
49 You got it. I'll be re-watching this one before his next start too to see if I can pick up on anything else.
2007-09-11 16:59:25
53.   yankz
Dammit Phil

He made his debut vs. these bozos.

2007-09-11 16:59:40
54.   SF Yanks
How do you sit on a change like that even when he never throw them?
2007-09-11 16:59:48
55.   fansince77
Hughes is so up in the zone...that's two tatooos o-2? why?
2007-09-11 16:59:57
56.   yankz
Maybe he's overthrowing?
2007-09-11 17:00:06
57.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Overbay must've totally been sitting curve. Takes the 2 fb's for strikes, then t's off.
2007-09-11 17:01:39
58.   Mattpat11
How odd is it to hear Ken Singleton gleefully talk about how the scoreboard torments Red Sox fans?
2007-09-11 17:02:00
59.   yankz
Wow. No control at all. 3 walks in 1+ IP.
2007-09-11 17:02:32
60.   yankz
If only he could match up velocity and control. Someday...
2007-09-11 17:02:35
61.   Mattpat11
The Blue Jays signed John McDonald to a 4 million dollar contract?
2007-09-11 17:02:55
62.   fansince77
Hughes is not even close there? I am SIMPLY NOT SOLD on Hughes...He has been given a 3-0 lead and he's about to make it 3-2 or 3-3 because of dumb pitching...I know he is a youngster- but isn't it the same damn game.
2007-09-11 17:03:17
63.   SF Yanks
This is almost painful to watch.
2007-09-11 17:03:50
64.   yankz
94 MPH at the knees. Nice.
2007-09-11 17:04:08
65.   fansince77
OK- let's see what he does 0-2 this time...
2007-09-11 17:04:34
66.   Mattpat11
They meant to do that.
2007-09-11 17:04:34
67.   fansince77
SHit that was very hittable. ARRRGHHHH.
2007-09-11 17:05:05
68.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
2007-09-11 17:05:26
69.   yankz
What just happened?
2007-09-11 17:05:27
70.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Jays announcers ripping Overbay now...
2007-09-11 17:05:41
71.   Mattpat11
2007-09-11 17:05:52
72.   fansince77
That's three hits- all on 0-2 counts.
2007-09-11 17:06:07
73.   claybeez
What a catch by Damon!
2007-09-11 17:06:29
74.   SF Yanks
Hughes is getting saved by Defensive. Nice plays guys!!
2007-09-11 17:06:33
75.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Yanks bringing the D!!
2007-09-11 17:06:39
76.   randym77
Damon's gonna kill himself.

Nice catch, though.

2007-09-11 17:06:55
77.   motown yankees fan
What did Melky do? Gameday makes it sound inhuman.
2007-09-11 17:07:06
78.   yankz
Two more beauties at 94 MPH. PUT HIM AWAY!
2007-09-11 17:07:43
79.   yankz
77 Not to mention, they didn't rule it a hit.
2007-09-11 17:08:21
80.   yankz
50 pitches.

WHY can't he put them away?

2007-09-11 17:08:22
81.   SF Yanks
What a fucking disaster.
2007-09-11 17:08:53
82.   fansince77
Leche giveth leche taketh away...I still put this shit on Hughes- he's playing with fire.
2007-09-11 17:09:17
83.   weeping for brunnhilde

Shouldn't someone be backing that up?

2007-09-11 17:09:20
84.   yankz
Hughes's confidence has to be at an all-time low, after never struggling for this long before.
2007-09-11 17:09:55
85.   yankz
At least we'll lead off the 3rd with a HR.
2007-09-11 17:10:05
86.   Mattpat11
Hughes looks awful.
2007-09-11 17:10:16
87.   SF Yanks
They are sitting all over his change and curve like they know exactly what's coming. Hmm...
2007-09-11 17:10:21
88.   yankz
Gameday puts that grounder to Arod literally on Jeter's name.
2007-09-11 17:11:16
89.   fansince77
Anyone counting how many balls were hit hard or SCORCHED? Hughes not ready if he can't pitch smart and get ahead of hitters. When he does get ahead...way too good on pitches that will inevitably swung at. I believe it is called "too good in the zone."
2007-09-11 17:11:39
90.   Marcus
87 I've heard Toronto is known for stealing signs...
2007-09-11 17:12:01
91.   Alex Belth
Really poor play by Melky there. Sloppy. They are killing Hughes. He's lucky to have only given up only two runs...
2007-09-11 17:12:47
92.   Yankees Brasil
Hughes is probably pitching himselft out of the rotation.
2007-09-11 17:12:54
93.   williamnyy23
I guess Keith Law isn't all the bad names he was called here a few days ago? Once again, Hughes has been reduced to throwing fastballs to one side of the plate. His curve has been poor and his change non existent. He also can't locate his fastball. At this point, I don't think there is any reason to expect him to be effective down the stretch or in September. If Clemens comes back, I would try to salvage something from Moose and shut Hughes down. There has to be something still lingering from the injury, so by pitching through it Hughes is risking harm to his arm.
2007-09-11 17:13:08
94.   JeremyM
87 Maybe he's just flat out tipping his pitches?
2007-09-11 17:14:36
95.   Alex Belth
2007-09-11 17:14:55
96.   Start Spreading the News
85 quick, what are the lotto numbers for tomorrow?
2007-09-11 17:15:14
97.   ny2ca2dc
HIP HIP! Now THAT is how a catcher picks up his pitcher! frigin screaming line drive
2007-09-11 17:15:34
98.   Start Spreading the News
96 ooops, it wasn't a lead off homer.
2007-09-11 17:16:02
99.   JeremyM
I love it, Gamecenter said he homered HARD to right.
2007-09-11 17:16:13
100.   williamnyy23
95 Was that Messer's call?
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2007-09-11 17:16:15
101.   ny2ca2dc
94 It's just the execution. Not dumb pitching or bad selection or placement - he just hasn't been able to get the ball where he wants it, the change has no fade, and the curve no bite.
2007-09-11 17:17:17
102.   yankz
98 I know ;( Arod's decided to go into a slump.


2007-09-11 17:17:39
103.   yankz
101 On the plus side, this is the best his velocity's ever been in the bigs.
2007-09-11 17:18:00
104.   Alex Belth
That was Marcum's most efficient inning so far, and he still gave up a run. Let's see if Hughes can match many of you here tonight, I remain skeptical...
2007-09-11 17:18:38
105.   weeping for brunnhilde
100 Or John Gordon?
2007-09-11 17:19:14
106.   Alex Belth
The Big Hurt has had an OK season, huh. Not as good as last year, not really good, but not awful either.
2007-09-11 17:19:32
107.   Alex Belth
Frank Messer! Ah, good memories.
2007-09-11 17:19:59
108.   williamnyy23
105 I thought Gordon's call was "Touch'em all Jorge Posada", said with a high pitch.
2007-09-11 17:20:05
109.   SF Yanks
93 Before tonight, Hughes hardly ever threw his curve. Tonight he's thrown it more than I've ever seen him, and his curve is pretty sharp. What's weird is that they aren't getting fooled at all. How do you sit on a change when he never even throws it? Somethings weird here.
2007-09-11 17:20:37
110.   williamnyy23
107 I think Jorge deserves the Getty Goner award!
2007-09-11 17:21:24
111.   fansince77
101 I agree he is missing his spots horribly - but when you get three consecutives hits against with an 0-2 pitch that IS dumb high school we tell our kids 0-2 means ball in dirt or something at the eyes- getting hit hard consistently 0-2 (with the rare exception of facing a Vladimir Guerrerro helicopter golf swing) is really dumb pitching.
2007-09-11 17:21:42
112.   yankz
Whoa- Stairs has a .981 OPS this year.
2007-09-11 17:22:19
113.   yankz
Tons of fly balls, and only 1 K. Both bad signs.
2007-09-11 17:22:22
114.   williamnyy23
109 Hughes curve in Texas was incredible. Unless that game was a fluke, Hughes looks like a shell of himself. For that reason, I'd shut him down and make sure he is 100% healthy before throwing another pitch. Even if he can gut out quality starts like last time, I worry about him throwing from a modified delivery because he is favoring the hamstring.
2007-09-11 17:22:36
115.   Alex Belth
Nicely done, Mr. Hughes.
2007-09-11 17:22:40
116.   SF Yanks
109 I meant, "hardly ever threw his change..."
2007-09-11 17:22:40
117.   weeping for brunnhilde
Call the fucking ball, gentlemen!
2007-09-11 17:22:58
118.   yankz
Anyone think Phil gets the win tonight? Wouldn't that be funny?
2007-09-11 17:23:00
119.   Mike T
That was a solid inning by Hughes.
2007-09-11 17:24:02
120.   yankz
119 Economically, yes. But I still would love to see a sign of the GB/K pitcher that dominated the minors.
2007-09-11 17:24:15
121.   ny2ca2dc
111 Watch Jorge's glove, he's missing by a foot or two. When you're looking to get a guy to chase, and miss by a foot, it's hittable. And thats what happened.
2007-09-11 17:24:33
122.   Jersey
120 Beat me to it.
2007-09-11 17:25:04
123.   fansince77
Would actually like to see Hughes take a few mph off the fastball and spot better. Get a head and then pitch rather than throw. He's got a long way to go. He has the tools but I think it is more of a mental thing right now. Let's hope he proves me wrong through the remainder of the game.
2007-09-11 17:25:43
124.   weeping for brunnhilde
108 Ahhhhhh, right!

"Touch 'em all, Dave Winfield!"

2007-09-11 17:26:49
125.   ny2ca2dc
Way to walk the #8 batter, the guy with the lowest walk % on the team, the leadoff hitter, on 4 pitches. Thank you sir!
2007-09-11 17:27:55
126.   SF Yanks
If Hughes goes on to finish 5/6 inn with 2 runs there is a pretty big silver lining that we get to look at. That is, if this is Hughes at his worst (and he looks pretty bad) imagine what he can do when he's at his best. Unless of course he can't ever get to his best.
2007-09-11 17:28:47
127.   yankz
Melky's seen a ton of pitches today, hasn't he?
2007-09-11 17:29:35
128.   Alex Belth
That's two tough at bats for Melky...
2007-09-11 17:30:40
129.   Alex Belth
Very nice play by Rios there. Made it look easy.
2007-09-11 17:30:42
130.   yankz
Jeter's season BA is now below his career BA. Did not see that happening this year.
2007-09-11 17:31:48
131.   fansince77
That's the ol' captains swing. Very good sign.
2007-09-11 17:32:03
132.   ny2ca2dc
126 We already know what he can do at his best (Texas), don't we ;)
2007-09-11 17:32:10
133.   SF Yanks
121 Precisely. I'm also very intrigued by the Jays whacking the shit out of his curve and change, and I think there may be something going on with that. (As I have said 3 times now and should probably stop saying.)
2007-09-11 17:33:14
134.   yankz
Two more 15 pitch innings puts Phil at 95 and in line for the win.
2007-09-11 17:33:36
135.   ny2ca2dc
that was a pretty nice curve, no?
2007-09-11 17:33:37
136.   Alex Belth
Got the 1-1 fastball by him...
2007-09-11 17:35:03
137.   Alex Belth
Last time, ahead 0-2 to Overbay he threw him a change that didn't sink. Overbay got a double. This time, 1-2 throws him a curve, outside. Then a fastball, outside, Overbay swings late and fouls it off. Fastball, hit well by right at Cano...think the location wasn't too wunnerful there.
2007-09-11 17:35:03
138.   SF Yanks
What's wrong with his curve? (For those who think it's not as good as before.) It still has the same amount of break, distance wise, but I guess you could say the "bite" is no longer there? Is that what you're referring to?
2007-09-11 17:35:07
139.   ny2ca2dc
136 and it was down & in to a lefty, which he hasn't been able to do. Anyone else notice that his pitches do improve as the game wears on? or am i imagining things?
2007-09-11 17:35:56
140.   yankz
I would guess he's overthrowing on his fastball. Explains the increased velocity and the wildness.
2007-09-11 17:36:14
141.   Dark Knight
tampa 8-1 over the sox in the 4th. wakefield out. thank you devil rays.
2007-09-11 17:36:42
142.   Jeb
Boston losing 8-1...either the D-Rays have finally figured out flakefield, or his knuckeball didn't knuckle too much
2007-09-11 17:36:51
143.   SF Yanks
He's looking MUCH better this inning... so far...
2007-09-11 17:36:56
144.   williamnyy23
138 Considering that he pulled his hamstring throwing the curve, I'd say he is still favoring the leg, which is why I don't think they should push him.
2007-09-11 17:36:58
145.   weeping for brunnhilde
129 Yes he did.
2007-09-11 17:37:38
146.   SF Yanks
139 Agreed. Just like last game.
2007-09-11 17:37:53
147.   ny2ca2dc
138 That last curve, which Zaun lofted to Melky, didn't have that 'starts at the head and stops at the toes' break on it, like he was spinning in Texas.
2007-09-11 17:38:15
148.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice effort by Jason there, moving that big hulk of his.
2007-09-11 17:39:00
149.   yankz
Pitch 81 came in at 95 MPH. That's a pretty good sign for the future, I think.
2007-09-11 17:39:00
150.   williamnyy23
143 For the first time all game, he is working his fastball on the inner half. I think the Yankees are making a mistake by constantly having Jorge set up on the outside half and having Hughes peck at the outside corner. Even when he misses location, Hughes seems most effective on the inside corner.
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2007-09-11 17:39:41
151.   weeping for brunnhilde

Alex still almost nailed him.

2007-09-11 17:39:44
152.   yankz
AB's like that are just frustrating.
2007-09-11 17:39:56
153.   yankz
Ah, come on MVP.
2007-09-11 17:40:06
154.   SF Yanks
144 Huh? I was asking about his curve. I don't think they should push him either, but what is it specifically about the curve that looks different?
2007-09-11 17:40:45
155.   Jeb
According to the Jays Announcers, Hughes, Kennedy and Joba all started the Season in AA...Do they even have media guides?
2007-09-11 17:40:51
156.   weeping for brunnhilde
Anyone know the physics of why it's easier to bring the glove up than to stab at the ball?
2007-09-11 17:41:13
157.   yankz
I wonder what a strikeout looks like?
2007-09-11 17:41:18
158.   fansince77
Unusual lack of concentration there by AROD let's hope the Yanks give back a little love right here
2007-09-11 17:41:39
159.   williamnyy23
154 My point was that his injury occured throwing a curve, so the lack of sharpness now might be because he is favoring the leg. If that's the case, I worry that he could hurt his arm.
2007-09-11 17:42:48
160.   yankz
85 pitches. Hopefully he can get 3 outs in 15 more.
2007-09-11 17:43:53
161.   yankz
There is not a shot in hell, none whatsoever, that the Yankees would let Phil Hughes pitch if they were anything less than 100% sure he was 100% healthy.

Which means if he is indeed favoring the leg, it's mental.

2007-09-11 17:44:03
162.   SF Yanks
150 I think even more specifically, he has trouble on the left side of the plate. We talked about this a little earlier, but I agree, he needs to hit the inside to both RH and LH, and the right side of the plate.
2007-09-11 17:44:50
163.   weeping for brunnhilde
Good God.

Yet another "lazy fly ball" by Abreu.

I swear I still can't believe how far his flyballs carry.

2007-09-11 17:44:57
164.   ny2ca2dc
159 I think you make a good point. Maybe Moose will represent himself well this week & get back into the mix... poor 'ol Moosey
2007-09-11 17:44:58
165.   yankz
OK Arod, give the kid some more breathing room.
2007-09-11 17:45:26
166.   williamnyy23
161 He could be 100% healthy, but still be favoring it because the injury is recent and in the back of his mind. Also, his legs may be healthy, but not as strong as they would otherwise be if he didn't have to take 2-3 months off from his regular routine.
2007-09-11 17:46:08
167.   SF Yanks
159 I know, I get your point. I was just confused because there was no answer to my question in your statement. Neither was there one in your last statement.
2007-09-11 17:46:38
168.   weeping for brunnhilde
Weird play.
2007-09-11 17:46:50
169.   williamnyy23
John McDonald is the best SS in baseball.
2007-09-11 17:47:18
170.   weeping for brunnhilde
That was heads up by Abreu.

That must be an easy play to fall asleep on.

2007-09-11 17:47:22
171.   yankz
You HAVE to go JobaMo today, don't you? Every game this series is going to be tough. Clinch this one while you can.
2007-09-11 17:47:25
172.   Alex Belth
He's not flashy, but that Macdonald is a one nifty fielder...
2007-09-11 17:48:00
173.   ny2ca2dc
163 A-Rod's lazy flyballs leave the park though. nah nah nah nah nah.

161 I think it probably is mental at least to some extent, he just doesn't want to jack the hammy (and ankle?) again, especially in September with the playoffs to come. Just think about when you really really badly sprain an ankle, it takes a while to get confidence that the smallest misstep won't send you to the pavement.

2007-09-11 17:48:28
174.   williamnyy23
167 In 159 I stated that the curve isn't as sharp, meaning it doesn't have the same quick break that it did in Texas. Now, it is more of a looping.
2007-09-11 17:48:34
175.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice running, Bobby.
2007-09-11 17:48:40
176.   Alex Belth
That ball by Matsui carried farther than I thought it'd go off the bat too...
2007-09-11 17:49:37
177.   williamnyy23
Send Arod!
2007-09-11 17:49:47
178.   weeping for brunnhilde
Fuck, .339?


2007-09-11 17:50:50
179.   williamnyy23
176 They said it was very hot in the dome, so maybe that's why the balls are carrying so far.
2007-09-11 17:50:50
180.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice job, Jorgie.
2007-09-11 17:51:08
181.   Alex Belth
Good eye, Jorge taking two tough change ups, 2-0. Girardi admiring Jorge's patience, just how locked-in he is now. Another breaking ball in the dirt, 3-0. Four-pitch walk. Smart. 84 pitches for Marcum. Double play here and he's still in the game...
2007-09-11 17:51:19
182.   yankz
If Giambino can blow this one open, maybe it's VilBrun instead of JobaMo tonight?
2007-09-11 17:51:37
183.   yankz
Or, it'd be cool to see that Ohlendorf kid.
2007-09-11 17:52:03
184.   Dark Knight
what is matsui's injury that = slump?
2007-09-11 17:52:27
185.   weeping for brunnhilde
A single would be lovely, Jason.

Nice and easy.

2007-09-11 17:52:38
186.   weeping for brunnhilde
I'll take a walk, too.
2007-09-11 17:52:57
187.   SF Yanks
174 My apologies. I see it now. You sorta snuck that one word answer in the middle there.
2007-09-11 17:53:15
188.   ny2ca2dc
183 Ya, it really would.

Det 4 - 1 Tex bot 5th
Sux 4 - 8 Rays bot 4th

2007-09-11 17:53:31
189.   weeping for brunnhilde
Please don't go down on that change, Jason.
2007-09-11 17:53:51
190.   yankz
I would wonder why he swung at that pitch, after 6 straight balls, but I trust Giambi's eye.
2007-09-11 17:53:57
191.   williamnyy23
Come on Jason...stop swinging like a mad man.
2007-09-11 17:54:13
192.   weeping for brunnhilde
Of course he's getting a change.
2007-09-11 17:54:51
193.   williamnyy23
Opposite field...very nice!
2007-09-11 17:54:58
194.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ha ha ha hah a hah a!!!!!!!!1

What a stupid-ass pitch!!!


ha ha hah ah aha h aah ah !!!


2007-09-11 17:55:01
195.   Alex Belth
A sinker and an off speed pitch for balls to Giambi. And then a change up, swing and a miss. Give Marcum credit for sticking with the change. Sinker, swing and a miss, 2-2. Another change, way outside, full count. Girardi says another change up is coming...fastball, outside, opposite field grand salami! Boy, did he (and WE) need that!
2007-09-11 17:55:09
196.   yankz
oh HELL no
2007-09-11 17:55:21
197.   Alex Belth
As Cliff would say, "G'BOMBEE!"
2007-09-11 17:55:35
198.   ny2ca2dc

Pick that kid up!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boo Ya!!!!!!!!

2007-09-11 17:55:38
199.   Mike T
I am sure Phil appreciates the extra four runs.
2007-09-11 17:55:39
200.   Jersey
ba DUNK a dunk
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2007-09-11 17:55:46
201.   weeping for brunnhilde
"Gee, I made him look silly with a change...maybe I'll try to make him look silly with a fastball, now, eh?

What the hell?"

2007-09-11 17:55:50
202.   SF Yanks
That remove about 20 lbs. off our backs tonight.
2007-09-11 17:56:14
203.   yankz
199 Hopefully he can just chuck it without worrying for this last inning.

Yeah, looking like a VilBrun killing...

2007-09-11 17:56:14
204.   OldYanksFan
I hate these one-dimensional players! {:-)
2007-09-11 17:56:24
205.   JeremyM
Nice, I've been hoping Giambi would catch fire through the rest of the year.

Shows you how lame I am, the things I daydream about...

2007-09-11 17:56:35
206.   weeping for brunnhilde
191 Indeed. And he did.

That was nice hitting.

2007-09-11 17:56:37
207.   ny2ca2dc
Maybe Olendorf WILL make an appearance. Edwar for sure.
2007-09-11 17:57:02
208.   Dark Knight
wow! giambi was 2 for his last 27 dating back to aug 26, when he hit his last hr.
2007-09-11 17:57:18
209.   yankz
205 I recently had a dream that the Yankees won a game 37-25. I forgot who they were playing.
2007-09-11 17:57:48
210.   weeping for brunnhilde
Great ab, Robby!


2007-09-11 17:57:49
211.   yankz
Oh, of course, Cano.
2007-09-11 17:58:30
212.   weeping for brunnhilde
Singleton says that pitch was a change, but I swear it was a fastball.
2007-09-11 17:59:23
213.   Mike T
meanwhile, Boston 5-8 Tampa end 4
2007-09-11 17:59:35
214.   weeping for brunnhilde
Melky reaching...
2007-09-11 18:00:37
215.   ny2ca2dc
The Jay's announcers just called Giambino "Jason the Destroyer". haha!
2007-09-11 18:02:38
216.   Eirias
209 Who but the Orioles?
2007-09-11 18:02:38
217.   weeping for brunnhilde
215 :)
2007-09-11 18:03:36
218.   weeping for brunnhilde
209 216 :)
2007-09-11 18:03:39
219.   SF Yanks
That was the curve that he use to throw. You see the bite on that thing? Holy macaroni.
2007-09-11 18:03:42
220.   yankz
216 Haha. Had to be.

Except, the Yankees would probably lose that game.

2007-09-11 18:04:28
221.   SF Yanks
219 The pitch to Adams btw.
2007-09-11 18:04:59
222.   williamnyy23
219 Yep...that was it.
2007-09-11 18:05:00
223.   yankz
5-8 GB-FB ratio. Not what you want, but not terrible.

Still, the 1 K is painful to see.

2007-09-11 18:05:07
224.   weeping for brunnhilde
Watch out for that fence, Bobby!
2007-09-11 18:05:31
225.   RIYank
212 It was definitely a fastball.

Wow, Hughes showed about the steepest learning curve I've ever seen tonight. He was just terrible in the first two innings, and superb for the next three.

2007-09-11 18:05:36
226.   SF Yanks
Can Hughes go another inning? He's at 95. Can he go 115 ish?
2007-09-11 18:05:44
227.   ny2ca2dc
Drastically better inning. Night and Day
2007-09-11 18:06:25
228.   yankz
Fantastic finish for the kid, which I think is a much better sign than the break on his curveball or velocity or whatever. He's not giving in, and learning to pitch after trouble. Good shit, IMO. The stuff will come back, we all know it will. You don't just forget how to throw. If only he had started off well, he could've gone six. Now he's done at 95 pitches.
2007-09-11 18:06:30
229.   RIYank
Is it the curve that improved, or the fastball location?
2007-09-11 18:06:43
230.   Jersey
226 I might let him start the 6th, with a short leash. Don't want him pushing himself TOO hard.
2007-09-11 18:06:57
231.   ny2ca2dc
226 Dude, check the scoreboard! Even this pen can hold a 6 run lead. can't it? right, right, can't it?!
2007-09-11 18:07:28
232.   SF Yanks
225 Yeah that was some turn-around. Like two different pitchers.
2007-09-11 18:07:37
233.   yankz
I wouldn't let him start the 6th. 95 pitches is enough, and they have a 6 run lead. And Joba's available for two if they need it.
2007-09-11 18:08:06
234.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
I just had a thought about Hughes. Which is that maybe he's just overthrowing.

I've been partial to the point williamnyy has been making that he still might not be 100%, but I'm now thinking he might be overthrowing.

This would explain why he settles down in the 4th, 5th, 6th innings.

Torre always says it about Wang. That in the first few innings sometimes he's too strong, as a result his sinker flattens.

Could this be what's happening with Hughes? It could explain the command. The fb moves to much, the curve flattens and doesn't move in ways he expects?

2007-09-11 18:08:37
235.   SF Yanks
229 Definitely both.
2007-09-11 18:08:48
236.   RIYank
232 In the third inning I didn't actually think, "He's pitching well now." But in retrospect he was, I was just still thinking of him as getting lucky! Which he sure did in the first two. I can't believe he's only charged with one ER!
2007-09-11 18:09:15
237.   monkeypants
226 Six run lead+95 pitches+rested BP after off day+September call-ups = Hughes is done tonight.
2007-09-11 18:09:19
238.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ha ha ha hah a!!

That was funny, Girardi saying it's funny when the big guys get hit suddenly think they can run.

2007-09-11 18:10:30
239.   RIYank
234 Interesting.
But Wang throws a sinker, which famously doesn't work too well when you overthrow it. Still, I wonder.

Nobody's warming up in our bullpen.

2007-09-11 18:11:01
240.   Mike T
Jeter swinging 3-0 with a six run lead. Hmmm...
2007-09-11 18:11:29
241.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice job, Bobby!

He's really hitting.

2007-09-11 18:11:52
242.   RIYank
Okay, here we go. If Alex gets ahead in the count, watch out.
2007-09-11 18:12:35
243.   ny2ca2dc
2007-09-11 18:12:37
244.   Mike T
Alex got ahead in the count alright.
2007-09-11 18:12:39
245.   SF Yanks
As bad as Hughes has looked, he's only given up 1ER on 3 hits. I know he'll be a great pitcher when he gets it together. Look at all his starts. He hardly gives up many hits.
2007-09-11 18:12:54
246.   RIYank
Oh, they walk him, duh. Would have been really dumb not to.
2007-09-11 18:12:59
247.   Mike T
243 lol
2007-09-11 18:13:24
248.   weeping for brunnhilde
234 That sounds plausible to me.
2007-09-11 18:13:50
249.   monkeypants
Good Lord, the Jays announcers are fixated on HA-gate.
2007-09-11 18:13:59
250.   RIYank
Matsui has turned into an iguana.
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2007-09-11 18:14:20
251.   williamnyy23
Joe has to move Matsui down...loyalty is one thing, but Posada is way too hot to play games like that.
2007-09-11 18:14:51
252.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Ugh, Matsui just seems lost.
2007-09-11 18:15:49
253.   JeremyM
As long as Matsui gets hot in October, I don't care what he does from now until then... presuming the Yanks are playing then, of course.
2007-09-11 18:16:15
254.   SF Yanks
Lets go Po! There's 3 runs on bowed. Get them Homed. Yo.

Horrible lame. Sorry.

2007-09-11 18:16:24
255.   RIYank
251 Good point. They wouldn't have walked A-Rod.
2007-09-11 18:16:44
256.   weeping for brunnhilde
249 Good lord, indeed.

What was that, June?

2007-09-11 18:17:21
257.   ny2ca2dc
251 Man, that would make for a lot of lefties in the bottom of the order thru to leadoff:

L Damon
R Jeter
L Abreu
R Arod
S(R) Po
L(even-ish splits) Matsui
L Giambi
L Cano
S(L) Melky

Sure would be nice to have more lefty mashers on the bench. Where have you gone Josh Phelps...

2007-09-11 18:17:41
258.   SF Yanks
I really need an edit button. The preview just lets me view the mistakes that I'm about to submit, lol.
2007-09-11 18:19:04
259.   ny2ca2dc
257 Lemme clarify; i think you're right, but 257 is maybe what Joe's thinking. I think Po has really earned that #5 slot, I have such a man crush on him
2007-09-11 18:19:42
260.   SF Yanks
Ha! Another inning. Good call Banter professionals. Don't quit your day jobs.
2007-09-11 18:19:55
261.   weeping for brunnhilde
That was a nice fastball in on the hands.
2007-09-11 18:20:39
262.   JeremyM
I'm really surprised by this, but another quality inning might do him a lot of good.
2007-09-11 18:20:39
263.   ny2ca2dc
260 Lol. on the other hand, would be nice to see Hughes stretched out a bit. He can't make a living stopping at 90 pitches (unless he's Pedro).
2007-09-11 18:21:05
264.   monkeypants
256 May, if I remember correctly. The beauty has been their internally inconsistent commentary. First, they justify A-Rod's beaning by saying that it's just part of baseball, and no one talked about since, and how all the players knew it was coming so it was no big deal. Of course, they themselves are talking about still months later, and every Yankees-Jays game this year they have talked about it. And while they talked about it, they shows the two near-brawls that broke out after A-Rod got beaned--so apparently the players did NOT simply accept this act of baseball justice in due course.

Hughes back for the sixth, and I am truly surprised.

2007-09-11 18:21:12
265.   SF Yanks
Hughes is now below a 5 ERA! Hurray!
2007-09-11 18:21:20
266.   RIYank
256 If you were a Jays announcer, would you rather talk about June, or the current version of the team?

259 Right.

2007-09-11 18:21:27
267.   ny2ca2dc
Jay's announcer just called Phil "young Phillip Hill". And the other guy didn't correct him. I guess they should put names on the jerseys or something...
2007-09-11 18:22:38
268.   RIYank
Abreu is getting over his wallophobia.
2007-09-11 18:22:44
269.   SF Yanks
4.94 ERA and dropping...
2007-09-11 18:22:46
270.   monkeypants
Abreu touches wall, story at 11.
2007-09-11 18:22:54
271.   ny2ca2dc
Damn, Bobby snowconed that one. Yikes.
2007-09-11 18:23:23
272.   williamnyy23
257 With Jorge hitting well from both sides of the plate, I am not sure he deters a manager from bringing in a lefty to face Matsui anyway.
2007-09-11 18:23:31
273.   ny2ca2dc
271 Err, upon replay, i might be making that up
2007-09-11 18:23:40
274.   RIYank
I'll be damned.
Four nearly perfect innings, after those hideous two.

Mike Mussina, take note!

2007-09-11 18:24:12
275.   yankz
Fantabulous finish there. I'm still shocked at the 1 K, but whatever. He didn't get rattled. When (if? nah, when) his stuff comes back, he'll be solid.
2007-09-11 18:24:25
276.   SF Yanks
6 3 2 1 3 1 4.91

At least the line looks pretty good.

2007-09-11 18:24:25
277.   weeping for brunnhilde
264 Heh heh heh heh heh.

266 :)

2007-09-11 18:25:16
278.   weeping for brunnhilde
268 270 ha ha hah ah ah ah ah ah !
2007-09-11 18:25:16
279.   monkeypants
274 And fastball still at 91 according to the RogersSports gun. Take that WasWatching.
2007-09-11 18:25:42
280.   Mike T
Too bad it takes Phil 60 pitches to warm up. His potential is limitless though.
2007-09-11 18:25:57
281.   RIYank
Rays score, but Sox are rallying, two on nobody out.
2007-09-11 18:26:05
282.   Marcus
279 Gameday has his last pitch at 93.
2007-09-11 18:26:14
283.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn, this Kennedy guy looks like David Wells.
2007-09-11 18:26:45
284.   Mike T
There's a Diamondbacks pitcher throwing to Giambi. Is he on loan from Arizona? :-P
2007-09-11 18:26:51
285.   thelarmis
276 i like the in-game WHIP of 1, even.

also, have to factor in a pretty high BFOG+, going out there for the 6th! ; )

2007-09-11 18:27:34
286.   yankz
Also have to factor in 0 walks since the very beginning of the 2nd.
2007-09-11 18:27:59
287.   SF Yanks
285 His overall WHIP, I don't think is bad at all, but I'd have to check... and I will.
2007-09-11 18:28:00
288.   thelarmis
281 yeah, i really wish TB would stop fucking around. 9-6, 2 on, 1 out...
2007-09-11 18:28:21
289.   weeping for brunnhilde
Poor Robby.

He swings at the first pitch and dribbles the ball to second, then he takes the first two pitches for strikes.

2007-09-11 18:28:36
290.   JeremyM
I will be stunned if Boston loses their game tonight. I just don't see Tampa holding the lead.
2007-09-11 18:28:43
291.   thelarmis
287 i promise not to tell John Kruk! ; )
2007-09-11 18:29:14
292.   weeping for brunnhilde
Melky reaching again.
2007-09-11 18:29:47
293.   thelarmis
290 stop it! it's now 9-7 and a base hit will tie it. it's making me sick... : /
2007-09-11 18:30:10
294.   SF Yanks
9-7 Rays, men on 2nd and 3rd, 1 out, bot 5
2007-09-11 18:30:47
295.   weeping for brunnhilde
Agggggggggh, fuck, throw up the line in Boston.

Youklis scores.

2007-09-11 18:30:54
296.   ny2ca2dc
290 Maybe Gangne will get in the game. that could help us.

Anyone have a link to the picture of Gagne with the caption "Is in ur Fenway; blowin ur divizun leadz"? It was funny shit. I made it the wallpaper on our computer at home, my Red Sox-fan wife deleted it. It was funny.

2007-09-11 18:30:58
297.   Zack
Ok SF, I'm back, give me the low down
2007-09-11 18:31:22
298.   rsmith51
290 Very predictive, Jeremy! 9-8 Rays.
2007-09-11 18:31:25
299.   thelarmis
ugh. 9-8, 1 out, runner on 2nd. what a bunch of bollocks...
2007-09-11 18:32:10
300.   ny2ca2dc
299 The Rays giveth and the Rays taketh away
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2007-09-11 18:32:17
301.   weeping for brunnhilde
296 :)
2007-09-11 18:32:41
302.   RIYank
297 Phil was awesome after the first two. To all of our surprise, I think.
Giambi hit a salami. We're crusing.
2007-09-11 18:33:16
303.   weeping for brunnhilde
An off-field salami, I might add.
2007-09-11 18:33:48
304.   ny2ca2dc
2007-09-11 18:33:54
305.   Zack
302 Nice! Define awesome though :) How was the control after the 1st? The breaking pitches? i want it all!
2007-09-11 18:33:54
306.   thelarmis
Phantom Warrior in. scrabble at 1st...
2007-09-11 18:34:00
307.   cult of basebaal
291 saw that exchange last night did you, eric? i swear, i had to tivo that and watch it again just to make sure i'd really heard it the 1st time ...
2007-09-11 18:34:22
308.   SF Yanks
297 Awful in the 1st and 2nd. Ok in the 3. Much, much improved in the 4, 5, and 6th. Command was getting better (still missing by a lot on some pitches though), curve was getting sharper. It's strange, as with his last outing, he got better as he went deeper into the game. Check out the line score I posted above. Overall not too shabby minus those two horrible innings.
2007-09-11 18:35:17
309.   thelarmis
hopefully TB keeps the same 1-run lead they did yesterday. boston will lose tonight!
2007-09-11 18:35:25
310.   ny2ca2dc
306 who the hell is phantom warrior?
2007-09-11 18:36:00
311.   cult of basebaal
Change Of Death!!!
2007-09-11 18:36:33
312.   ny2ca2dc
Bugs Bunny!
2007-09-11 18:36:58
313.   thelarmis
307 dude! i was just about to call you tonite! my text message package started anew today - all the play-by-play we did tied me up for a coupla weeks. you okay? find a new gig?

yeah, kruk was a fool last nite...

2007-09-11 18:39:38
314.   ny2ca2dc
Edwar really seems to do better in low stress environments. Maybe as he adjusts and starts learning how to pitch on the big stage he'll settle down and be able to be more consistent in pressure situations. I REALLY hope he comes out for the next inning to face the meat of this lineup. I want to see Frank Thomas screw his self into the dirt on a change. Would've loved to see that happen to Shef too...
2007-09-11 18:39:56
315.   thelarmis
310 : ) a few weeks ago, edwar came in to pitch. a lot of folks here call him Edwarrior, which is a cool sobriquet. but he had this gray "no photo" at gamecast and he is so thin, that i decided to call him "Phantom." pretty much, only Mr. Okay Tokyo liked it beside me, though. soooo, i put 'em both together and the "Phantom Warrior" was born! sounds like a superhero comic book character to me.

after those 2 k's - long live the Phantom Warrior! : )

2007-09-11 18:40:36
316.   cult of basebaal
313 my last day is Nov 9, so i haven't started looking yet ... prolly won't until January, only consolation is that after 9 1/2 years, i got a pretty decent severance coming ...

i've been away or out of town during games for the last couple of weeks, so i haven't been around much ...

2007-09-11 18:40:37
317.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice hit there, Johnny.
2007-09-11 18:40:53
318.   RIYank
305 Curve was vg, fastball location improved vastly. The only base runner after the second was on an error.
Oh, and as Weeping says, Giambi's homer was opposite field.

A-Rod got IBB with runners on second and third one out, and Matsui popped out, we remarked that Posada should be moved into the five slot to prevent that kind of thing.

Folks, am I forgetting anything big?

2007-09-11 18:41:01
319.   thelarmis
d-rays have the leadoff man on and a sept callup on the mound for bosox. upton up. pad that lead, fellas!!!
2007-09-11 18:41:28
320.   thelarmis
damon having a nice night. me likey!
2007-09-11 18:41:28
321.   ny2ca2dc
315 That's awesome
2007-09-11 18:41:42
322.   Zack
308 Gracias. Nice to see Hughes averaging less than a hit per inning. Once he gets that control down (it IS getting better), the walks will go down, thus an even lower WHIP, less pitches, less taters, and less runs...Who's worried? Not I...
2007-09-11 18:41:59
323.   cult of basebaal
314 or how about seeing Ollie Ollie Ohlendorf for an inning ... or britton, since he seems to have been relegated to being The Make A Wish Kid again ...
2007-09-11 18:42:02
324.   weeping for brunnhilde
315 heh heh heh heh.

I like it.


2007-09-11 18:43:10
325.   Zack
318 Also gracias. Yeah, Posada shoulda been hitting 5th awhile ago, but Joe is slow on these things
2007-09-11 18:43:51
326.   weeping for brunnhilde
318 Bobby's nice flyball double to left?
2007-09-11 18:44:01
327.   thelarmis
316 rock on, that all sounds good! i've been busy and haven't been able to catch the YES network at JnJ's. i hope to see some of the series this weekend, in between gigs...

c'mon DJ, time to snap out of it!

2007-09-11 18:44:04
328.   ny2ca2dc
319 who the hell is Bryan Corey. I though i followed this stuff closely, but wtf. and when did gameday take away the strike zone outline. That's teh wicked lame
2007-09-11 18:45:03
329.   SF Yanks
305 You saw the first 2 innings right? Well then, he could barely even hit the side of the plate he was throwing at. After the 3rd, he hit his spots with greater consistency, but like I just stated in the post above, still missed by a lot on some pitches. One thing I forgot to mention. In those early innings the Jays were pounding his off-speed stuff almost like they knew what was coming. As with most of his starts this year, he gets into this groove, where it seems like he pitches quicker and with the utmost confidence. He needs to get his change going, and he needs to start the game off in this groove he gets into, and we're in business.
2007-09-11 18:45:34
330.   weeping for brunnhilde
325 Actually, is that true?

His lineups seem to be the one creative part of his game, the one area where he's not afraid to experiment.

Maybe he does it less so these days, though?

2007-09-11 18:46:10
331.   RIYank
If Britton pitches the rest of the game, Edwar would be available tomorrow if necessary. Though I bet he'd be less effective, so I think I'd rather have him pitch a second inning today.
2007-09-11 18:46:41
332.   ny2ca2dc
325 I really wish he had been moved up earlier, so it wasn't as a response to Matsui slumping.

Oh shit, so that's what the AG looks like. Once he got run out of this town, I guess he fled to Canada. (that is about the worst joke i've ever attempted.)

2007-09-11 18:47:12
333.   cult of basebaal
320 don't look now, but JD's line since the ASB:


guess it's not quite time for the glue factory yet ...

328 dunno, but i believe he was a gentleman from sole to crown, Clean favored, and imperially slim ...

2007-09-11 18:47:32
334.   thelarmis
321 324 oh cool, thanks guys! i don't think there were a whole lot of us on that thread, but most politely declined liking it. i still do, so if it's cool, i'll probably keep referring to edwar as Phantom Warrior. join in if you like, the more the edmerrier! : )
2007-09-11 18:48:10
335.   weeping for brunnhilde
2007-09-11 18:48:17
336.   Zack
329 I didn't see the 2nd which sounds like far and away his worst. It seems like he looses his mechanics and stride at various points in innings, which makes sense as he works his way back. Maybe they need to warm him up a bit longer? Who knows. As long as he keeps getting better, right?!?
2007-09-11 18:48:25
337.   RIYank
A-Rod showing his power!
2007-09-11 18:48:28
338.   cult of basebaal
331 how do you figure? i mean, he threw back-to-back in the minors plenty this year and i don't recall it being an issue
2007-09-11 18:48:50
339.   yankz
WTF is up with these infield singles, man. I want a bomb.
2007-09-11 18:49:31
340.   Start Spreading the News
boston tied at 9 apiece. A loss for the sox would have the yanks back by 4. But no.....
2007-09-11 18:49:45
341.   RIYank
329 Yeah, I thought they were sitting on his curve, because he couldn't spot the heater.
2007-09-11 18:49:45
342.   tommyl
323 Ah, how I love seeing my nickname for Britton live on!

Meanwhile, the D-Rays suck.

2007-09-11 18:49:47
343.   thelarmis
fuk. and. shit. dustbin goes yard, tie game. boo

is that TWO infield singles for A-bomb tonight?!

2007-09-11 18:50:36
344.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice job, Hideki!

Sac fly.

Nice job.

Oh, fuck.


2007-09-11 18:50:44
345.   ny2ca2dc
A-Rod must've yelled "I Got It" at the pitcher, which is why he didn't pick up that dribbler. Bean Balls to follow
2007-09-11 18:51:56
346.   tommyl
329 I think Hughes so far has just seemed to take a bit of time to figure out what to do with whatever he has on a given night. I'm confident that as he gains experience he'll settle in more quickly. I'm a bit worried about only having the 1K, and the propensity of flyouts, but he was so much more efficient after the 2nd, that some of it might have been deliberate pitch to contact.
2007-09-11 18:52:23
347.   ny2ca2dc
339 did you not see the SALAMI?! you want more fireworks than that!!!
2007-09-11 18:53:09
348.   tommyl
343 It's an A-Dribbler, from A-Rod!
2007-09-11 18:53:10
349.   weeping for brunnhilde
What a great ab, Jorgie.


2007-09-11 18:53:33
350.   thelarmis
detroit won the nightcap. we hold on tonight, we'll be 5 up in the AILC.

emma span's favorite pitcher - grant BALL FOUR - in for tampa...

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2007-09-11 18:54:13
351.   ny2ca2dc
348 LOL!
2007-09-11 18:54:39
352.   thelarmis
i love jorgie! i'm also loving watching the bravos destroy the Mutts. 13-4, bot 8. : )
2007-09-11 18:54:49
353.   cult of basebaal
that's right stinky, just keep stinking, don't give joey joe joe any excuse to start you ...
2007-09-11 18:55:03
354.   RIYank
331 Huh?
I meant, he's likely to be less effective when he pitches two days in a row.
2007-09-11 18:55:48
355.   cult of basebaal
round 2 for The Phantom ...
2007-09-11 18:56:30
356.   thelarmis
355 nice, cult! : )
2007-09-11 18:56:39
357.   ny2ca2dc
355 YES! I want to see victims out of these sluggers
2007-09-11 18:56:58
358.   ny2ca2dc
357 Err, who the fuck is Russ Adams?!
2007-09-11 18:58:09
359.   cult of basebaal
354 and i was simply asking what you were basing that on ... since he hasn't pitched back-to-back in the majors yet ... and i don't recall it ever being mentioned as an issue by the folks who were following him in MiLB ..
2007-09-11 18:59:19
360.   weeping for brunnhilde
348 ha ha ha hah ah a!
2007-09-11 18:59:34
361.   RIYank
359 Oh, I thought 'back to back' meant two innings in one game.

The only reason is that it's true in general. Relievers are less effective on their second consecutive day. Nothing about Edwar in particular.

2007-09-11 19:00:07
362.   thelarmis
3 whiffs for The Phantom!

epic at-bat at the fens. 11 pitches, at least...

2007-09-11 19:00:14
363.   weeping for brunnhilde
That was such a hittable pitch.

My God.

2007-09-11 19:00:14
364.   ny2ca2dc
oh man. That was orgasmic.
2007-09-11 19:00:20
365.   Zack
Edwar is such a freaky lookin dude
2007-09-11 19:00:36
366.   Zack
I just want to feed him, you know?
2007-09-11 19:01:29
367.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh my God.

Bases juiced up, no outs.

What good-for-nothings mopes are these Tampas.

2007-09-11 19:01:30
368.   thelarmis
well, jeremy was right - boston tied it up, down from 8-1 and now have the bases juiced, nobody out. sickening.
2007-09-11 19:01:59
369.   cult of basebaal
366 long live the memory of Starvin' Marvin Freeman ...
2007-09-11 19:02:36
370.   thelarmis
367 great minds! yours is greater by a grand total of 1 second! ; ) then again, i think Yale beats out Penn State in everything but football, haha...
2007-09-11 19:03:15
371.   weeping for brunnhilde
A fucking triple?
2007-09-11 19:03:17
372.   cult of basebaal
jesus, youkilis!!! tripled ... stupid devil fishies
2007-09-11 19:03:37
373.   RIYank
Bases no longer juiced in Fenway.
2007-09-11 19:03:40
374.   yankz
What's the on-field delay?
2007-09-11 19:03:46
375.   weeping for brunnhilde
370 ha ha hah ah a.


2007-09-11 19:03:59
376.   Mattpat11
Tampa Bay is worthless.
2007-09-11 19:04:07
377.   thelarmis
and there it is - bases clearing triple for the pukester. he'll soon score and make it 13-4, in favor of the scumbags. : (
2007-09-11 19:04:23
378.   weeping for brunnhilde
Edwar's fastball is way, way too hittable.
2007-09-11 19:04:47
379.   weeping for brunnhilde
"His eyes opened up like it was a full moon!"

ha hah ah ah ahah a!

That's a funny line, Kenny!

2007-09-11 19:05:29
380.   weeping for brunnhilde
374 I think it was on account of Jorgie's mask getting busted.
2007-09-11 19:05:29
381.   ny2ca2dc
367 368 Some kind of season for those guys. Down season's by Ortiz & Manny, so freakin Lowell steps up, Varitek proves ambulatory, and even with Drew & Lugo shitting the bed, Crisp looks decent, DiceK is pretty good, and the most absurd stroke of dumb luck, DiceK's caddy turns into one of the best relievers in the game, and a pip squeak second baseman proves the stat geeks right. meanwhile almost all the Yankee pitchers have been injured and/or disemboweled... fuckers.
2007-09-11 19:05:56
382.   RIYank
378 But the change is goooooood.
2007-09-11 19:06:20
383.   weeping for brunnhilde
If Edwar's only out pitch is a change, and his fastball is eminently hittable, why would he throw the fastball on 3-2?
2007-09-11 19:06:38
384.   cult of basebaal
378 it's his command of it that will make or break him ... his changeup on the other hand ...
2007-09-11 19:07:15
385.   Zack
Would you really expect Tampa's BP to hold down anyone besides us? You can't honestly expect us to gain this weekend, no matter the score. besides, that is the typical Fenway "inspirational" comeback that ballpark is so conducive to...
2007-09-11 19:07:45
386.   Zack
Eat Edwar Ear!
2007-09-11 19:07:46
387.   ny2ca2dc
378 It really is, but if he can keep the walks down and locate better to avoid the homers, all those Ks will make him a good middle reliever & and asset. and we'll have fun deciding amongst awesome nicknames:

Phantom Warrior
Starvin' Marvin


2007-09-11 19:07:48
388.   weeping for brunnhilde

That's really a great change.

If he could figure out...I don't know what...maybe to achieve pinpoint control with the fastball?...he'd be unhittable.

He's got a lot of potential, though.

2007-09-11 19:07:58
389.   Zack
umm, and by ear I mean eat.
2007-09-11 19:08:40
390.   Jersey
John Sterling: "I've never even HEARD of Chamberlain or Kennedy, and here they are pitching down the home stretch!"

Do your homework, dufus.

Or read the Banter. ;)

2007-09-11 19:08:41
391.   thelarmis
and the Phantom Warrior strikes out 5 of 6. 31 pitches, 0 bb's, 2 measley singles. nice work, kid!
2007-09-11 19:09:18
392.   SF Yanks
Oh my gawd! The Devil Rays should be fined 50 million dollars for laying down in an important division race. That's just disgusting. How can you be so shitty? A prime opportunity to gain a big game on the freakin Sox, but noooooooooo, they had to go and embarrass themselves by being the suckiest baseball team to ever roam a baseball field. They should all take a really long walk off a really short pier along with the White Sox and Balitmore. Damn, now my keyboard is dirty just from writing about that filthy team.
2007-09-11 19:09:29
393.   ny2ca2dc
Can i get a groundswell for Olendorf for the 9th?
2007-09-11 19:09:43
394.   Jersey
387 I've always been partial to Bugs
2007-09-11 19:09:44
395.   RIYank
381 Tek, ambulatory, maybe. But Crisp really does stink, he's bad this year too.
2007-09-11 19:09:47
396.   thelarmis
bruney for the 9th? or will it be a de salvo like callup?
2007-09-11 19:10:28
397.   ny2ca2dc
392 The O's are doing the same thing. They're competing for first draft pick next year...
2007-09-11 19:10:29
398.   weeping for brunnhilde
390 ha ha hah!

That's such a good word for him.

That's just what he is, a doofus.

2007-09-11 19:10:52
399.   cult of basebaal
alrighty, i'd better see the short bus fat kid in for the 9th ...

or ollie ...

2007-09-11 19:10:52
400.   thelarmis
and carlos pena recently spoke of how the d-rays are "so freaking close" and he wants to sign a long-term deal w/ the devil fishes. maybe he just wants to torment both the yanks and shit sox for not giving him much of a chance...
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2007-09-11 19:11:41
401.   ny2ca2dc
394 I am too. Maybe they'll start playing the Loony Tunes theme when he enters the game. that would be something else.
2007-09-11 19:14:16
402.   weeping for brunnhilde
Back to being bad Robby...


Fucking clownery.

2007-09-11 19:14:50
403.   yankz
But I thought Edwar was the human white flag??
2007-09-11 19:15:50
404.   weeping for brunnhilde
401 Ooooooooh, fucking A, that would be something else!

I love that!

That crazy jangly xylophone...

2007-09-11 19:15:57
405.   ny2ca2dc
Is that sleeve on Melky's left elbow new? Is his throwing elbow barking? Sure hope not, but could explain the Sept Swoon.
2007-09-11 19:16:02
406.   cult of basebaal
401 or Raymond Scott's "Powerhouse" ... that would a trip ...
2007-09-11 19:17:11
407.   weeping for brunnhilde
387 ha ha hah ah ah ah !!

I kind of like Starvin' Marvin, too!

ha ha hah a ha hah ah a!!!

That's quite funny.

2007-09-11 19:18:24
408.   yankz
Melky had a .679 OPS in September/October last year. It's .667 this year (despite an above average BABIP). Maybe he needs to be rested more throughout the year?
2007-09-11 19:18:40
409.   thelarmis
404 hey, i play the xylophone! i'll record a rendition for the Banter ; )

i think the Xylo player for the old bugs bunny stuff was a guy named Sam (something or other). he was amazing.

but, Bugs was used pretty often to describe Gagne's change in LA...

2007-09-11 19:19:02
410.   ny2ca2dc
404 I love the implicit disrespect. This is so bush league of me, but to hear that comedic song, and then get your ass handed to you by a 150 lbs pitcher. man. that'd get a team's dander up. Gibbons might pop an artery.

Kind of like a different version of Mo, mister quiet unimposing professionalism, coming in to Metalica and then eating guys up.

2007-09-11 19:19:14
411.   yankz
NICE! Ohlendorf!

I can't believe how many pitchers have made their debuts for the Yanks this year.

2007-09-11 19:20:02
412.   cult of basebaal
can i call it or what ... OLLIE!!!
2007-09-11 19:20:19
413.   ny2ca2dc
411 Booya! who called it! 393
2007-09-11 19:20:22
414.   Mattpat11
Yankees don't seem to have any arbitration clock worries with this guy.
2007-09-11 19:20:28
415.   bobtaco
Somewhere Jim Dean is still rooting for you 'Dorf!!!

Don't let him down!

2007-09-11 19:20:49
416.   ny2ca2dc
412 great minds
2007-09-11 19:21:05
417.   weeping for brunnhilde
Hey, nice slider!
2007-09-11 19:21:18
418.   yankz
Great debut, kid! Someone keep the ball.
2007-09-11 19:21:20
419.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
I wouldn't expect too much from Ohlly. If Wang's anything to go by, turf is kryptonite to sinker-ballers.
2007-09-11 19:21:31
420.   cult of basebaal
damn ... the juice is flowing for Ollie 2nite ... gameday had the 3rd pitch at 97!
2007-09-11 19:21:35
421.   RIYank
2007-09-11 19:21:36
422.   yankz
413 I called it way before that.
2007-09-11 19:21:43
423.   thelarmis
probably woulda been a good time to get JD off the turf and throw Sardhina out there...

nice job Ollie! do Jim Dean proud here on 9/11!!!

2007-09-11 19:21:46
424.   weeping for brunnhilde
Jesus, what a violent motion.

That's crazy leg-action.

2007-09-11 19:21:48
425.   ny2ca2dc
hell, that was a nice, what, slider?
2007-09-11 19:22:19
426.   SF Yanks
Dorf's a big dude.
2007-09-11 19:22:47
427.   yankz
98 MPH with a 4" break

Pitch before that was 96/6

2007-09-11 19:23:05
428.   RIYank
420 And the second pitch to Thigpen at 98. And the fourth, too.
2007-09-11 19:23:53
429.   yankz
Joba Who?
2007-09-11 19:24:22
430.   williamnyy23
That RJ trade doesn't look so bad now on that last play.
2007-09-11 19:24:22
431.   weeping for brunnhilde
guffaw, guffaw

Yeah, that's pretty bush, but good lord, is it hilarious!

Nice job, kid!

Nice win, Team!

2007-09-11 19:24:43
432.   yankz
2007-09-11 19:24:45
433.   ny2ca2dc
I would like to point out that this game was pitched entirely by Yankee prospects. Yes I'm claiming Edwar.
2007-09-11 19:25:23
434.   thelarmis
11 pitches. nice work, man!

20 games over .500!

2007-09-11 19:25:32
435.   Mattpat11
Baltimore and Kansas City are finished.
2007-09-11 19:25:32
436.   yankz
433 And uh...Ohlendorf as well (he only spent a year in the system, after all).
2007-09-11 19:25:33
437.   Jersey
Wow! What a debut. Nice arm out of the pen if he can keep it up (I was going to use "consistent," but Joe Morgan has ruined that word for me forever)
2007-09-11 19:26:06
438.   weeping for brunnhilde
I think Johnny's stoned.

(More than usual, I mean.)

2007-09-11 19:26:22
439.   thelarmis
430 nice connection, william!
2007-09-11 19:26:29
440.   ny2ca2dc
433 I'm using a wide definition, work with me here!
2007-09-11 19:26:29
441.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
423 Sardhina...I'd like to see him, Joba, Edvar, and Colter Bean all on the roster together...then trade for Saltalamachhia
2007-09-11 19:31:47
442.   thelarmis
441 salty is cool! i think they're gonna really miss him here in atlanta in a coupla years... our Phantom did well tonite! : )
2007-09-11 19:32:52
443.   yankz
440 Works for me! Although that CLE game (PhilJobaMo) was really something special.
2007-09-11 19:33:03
444.   Mattpat11
2007-09-11 19:34:37
445.   OldYanksFan
2007-09-11 19:34:47
446.   Mattpat11
Even Nancy is hitting.
2007-09-11 19:35:24
447.   Chyll Will
Sam time tomorrow everyone, g'nite! >;)
2007-09-11 19:36:09
448.   Chyll Will
Sam time? Same time zzzzz...
2007-09-11 19:40:47
449.   Mattpat11
BTW, few things would bring me as much joy as making the Jays finish under .500 this year. Lets sweep.
2007-09-11 19:43:23
450.   RIYank
449 I dunno, it's not going to be easy. They have first baseman, you know. What's his name?
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2007-09-11 19:43:56
451.   RIYank
450 "... have that first baseman..."
2007-09-11 19:44:35
452.   Chyll Will
450 ...zzzzz Karim Garcia?
2007-09-11 19:46:03
453.   Mattpat11
450 Well, yes, obviously. But if we all work together, fans and players alike, we can overcome the power of the O.
2007-09-11 19:46:34
454.   RIYank
452 Sh. Go back to sleep.
2007-09-11 19:47:30
455.   RIYank
453 Do his fans call him "The Big O"? That would be awesome. They could pronounce it "Zero".
2007-09-11 19:48:23
456.   Chyll Will
454 Right-to zzzzz...
2007-09-11 19:49:24
457.   Mattpat11
455 In Milwaukee, he even had a hand signal.
2007-09-11 19:53:25
458.   Mattpat11
Also, from a Mike Mussina fan point of view, I'd really like to see him pitch well and win so he has a chance of extending his ten win a year streak.
2007-09-11 19:56:51
459.   weeping for brunnhilde
452 454 :)
2007-09-11 20:03:29
460.   Mattpat11
Eric Gagne is giving up runs in the ninth. At least I can take something from that game.
2007-09-11 20:37:13
461.   tommyl
Hughes velocity seems up from tonight. Man the YES gun is slow. It had Ollie at 92-95, Gameday has him at 95-98. Gameday data has Hughes sitting around 93-95 in the first inning, 92-93 in the 6th. So a bit of a dropoff, but maybe that's an adjustment he made to up his command. All in all, if he sits at 93-95 and ups his command a bit he'll be even better.

Its hard to complain when your rookie 21 year old goes 6 innings and gives up 1 ER.

2007-09-11 20:57:29
462.   Mattpat11
His line is much better than he pitched, especially in that second inning, but he certainly settled in after that.
2007-09-11 21:11:11
463.   tommyl
462 I disagree. After the 2nd inning he was lights out. He retired 13 out of 14, and the one he didn't retire was the A-Rod error. The first inning he pitched into a bit of trouble but pitched himself out. The second inning was trouble. That's about the same as say Wang two nights ago when he had one bad inning and was shaky in another.
2007-09-11 22:18:42
464.   OldYanksFan
Seattle is done. Kaput. In the crapper. See ya next year.
Cleveland is only 1/2 back of those pesky Angels. Go Cleveland!

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