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Straight Up and Down, Troop, Don't Even Play Yourself
2007-09-05 15:23
by Alex Belth
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Last night won't mean much if the Yanks don't win again tonight. They need to win this game and they need to win this series. Being three games up on Seattle is a whole lot better than just a one-game lead. Then again the Mariners need to win this game badly too. I expect their best effort and Washburn has been tough on the Yankees in the past. But I also expect Hughes to throw a good game and I expect the Yankees to win. Could be wrong, of course. They could come out flat. Who knows what we'll see. But they should win, right? Alex Rodriguez is in the starting line-up, he'll DH. Jorge sits, so does Abreu. Betemit plays third, G'bombee plays first, and Shelley SlamDuncanstein is in right.

Let's Go Yan-Kees!

Comments (468)
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2007-09-05 15:30:19
1.   JL25and3
It would be damn nice to see Hughes pitch well tonight. Not just OK, not terrible, only a few big hits, hopeful signs, etc - but a genuinely well-pitched game.
2007-09-05 15:36:56
2.   Mike T
We all know Hughes has the potential; we saw him mow down the Rangers pre-hamstring. Go Phil!
2007-09-05 15:42:34
3.   Alex Belth
Hughes has got to be aggresive and throw strikes.
2007-09-05 15:47:01
4.   Mattpat11
We need this game.
2007-09-05 15:50:11
5.   bobtaco
We play today, we win today das it.
2007-09-05 15:50:56
6.   yankz
7 IP, 95 pitches, 2 ER, 9 K, 1 BB. You heard it here first.
2007-09-05 15:55:10
7.   Alex Belth
Now, that's a prediction I can get down with.
2007-09-05 15:56:27
8.   Alex Belth
Did anyone just watch the replay of the 95 playoffs vs the M's they just showed on YES? Man, that's the kind of series A Rod needs to have. Like the one Griffey had, with the five dingers and then scoring the walk-off run.
2007-09-05 15:58:11
9.   Alex Belth
Yo, I HATE Washburn. Straight up don't like his smug-sorta Keifer Sutherland-lookin' vibe. Maybe it's an 02 Angels thing.
2007-09-05 16:02:53
10.   yankz
9 Whoa, did you just talk ill of Jack Bauer?
2007-09-05 16:03:34
11.   yankz
8 It has to be against Boston, or in the WS. Because his '04 ALDS vs. the Twinkies was pretty damn good.
2007-09-05 16:05:00
12.   rsmith51
I am surprised they aren't riding Bobby's hot streak. He was on fire yesterday.
2007-09-05 16:07:59
13.   Alex Belth
Or Jorge's.
2007-09-05 16:10:26
14.   yankz
Boo umps!
2007-09-05 16:10:55
15.   yankz
NICE play. Great to see a GB.
2007-09-05 16:11:57
16.   EricSanSan
Not bad, not bad. That's the kind of break Phil needs to get some confidence going. Now, got get them Franchise!
2007-09-05 16:12:30
17.   EricSanSan
I'm glad that's Jose Vidro, because that should have been gone. Also, nice route out there Slam Duncan.
2007-09-05 16:13:00
18.   yankz
2007-09-05 16:13:08
19.   BklynBmr
9 I can count the players I really don't care for on one hand, but he's one of them. For the exact reason you mention.

10 Bauer on the other hand is a certified bad ass!

2007-09-05 16:14:17
20.   EricSanSan
Make sure you get in there against lefties, Phil, don't want to miss in the down in the middle.
2007-09-05 16:15:03
21.   EricSanSan
2007-09-05 16:15:20
22.   yankz
19 Jack Bauer could've robbed Arod of that HR yesterday.
2007-09-05 16:15:53
23.   yankz
He's getting squeeeezed
2007-09-05 16:16:47
24.   yankz
Dammit. Enough with the walks, kid.
2007-09-05 16:16:49
25.   EricSanSan
Unreal. More pitches now because we can't throw a left handed hitter a changeup when he's ahead in the count.
2007-09-05 16:17:03
26.   Mattpat11
Jeremy Bonderman still hasn't gotten better.
2007-09-05 16:17:31
27.   EricSanSan
Put him away now kid!
2007-09-05 16:17:54
28.   yankz
2007-09-05 16:18:54
29.   yankz
Boo ya!

What was that, 20 pitches?

2007-09-05 16:18:59
30.   EricSanSan
Nice. It was only 93, but it was more than enough. Big that he gets out of that inning unscathed. Now let's score some runs to give him some breathing room.
2007-09-05 16:20:20
31.   rsmith51
13 Touche, Alex. I guess it is a house money sort of day.
2007-09-05 16:20:22
32.   Mike T
29 21 pitches.
2007-09-05 16:24:22
33.   rbj
31 T'ain't no such thing as a house money day until beginning of March. Yankees need to drive a stake through the other WC opponents. Still, Jorge does need a rest now and then.

Abreu? Dunno, we'll see how well Duncan does.

2007-09-05 16:24:53
34.   Zack
Lets see if the Yanks offense can actually give Hughes a comfy lead, which, knowing how they fare against Washburn, don't seem likely...
2007-09-05 16:26:31
35.   Yankees Brasil
That last pitch to Jeter was called a ball when Hughes was pitching.. fucking ump
2007-09-05 16:26:56
36.   Zack
Hughes never seems to get that FB on the outside, huh?
2007-09-05 16:27:14
37.   Zack
as in, he never gets the call
2007-09-05 16:27:40
38.   yankz
Oh my god, that was like, a 12-0 curve.
2007-09-05 16:29:14
39.   Zack
Freaking ump
2007-09-05 16:29:18
40.   yankz
2007-09-05 16:30:34
41.   yankz
The pitch that comes in 80 MPH, is that his slider or change? It moves a little, but I know he's going to mix in the change this game...
2007-09-05 16:30:37
42.   SF Yanks
This ump is unbelievable.
2007-09-05 16:31:14
43.   SF Yanks
41 That looks like his slider.
2007-09-05 16:31:37
44.   Yankees Brasil
Who is this ump? Horrible job so far
2007-09-05 16:32:26
45.   EricSanSan
It his slider. His changeup has some late fade to his arm side. The slider is just a tighter breaking ball, similar to what Wang throws.
2007-09-05 16:32:54
46.   yankz
Hey, he's doing it again...
2007-09-05 16:33:04
47.   Zack
Nice inning for Phil. Woulda been better if the ump was paying attention during that 2nd AB
2007-09-05 16:33:29
48.   SF Yanks
15 pitch inning. Abouts.
2007-09-05 16:35:03
49.   yankz
Is that Jesus?
2007-09-05 16:35:23
50.   Zack
Oh, cool! I didn't think A-Rod was even playing!
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2007-09-05 16:35:45
51.   EricSanSan
Washburn must hide the ball well. I've never seen a guy throwing 86 getting so many swings and misses. Maybe he could teach Moose how he does it.
2007-09-05 16:38:11
52.   SF Yanks
Damn Washburn threw that pitch 104 mph. I didn't know he could throw that fast.
2007-09-05 16:39:35
53.   Zack
Continuing the comments from the last thread about A-Rod, when you really think about it, A-Rod is the best power hitter this team has seen since Mantle, and is probably #4 behind Ruth, mantle, Gehrig...On a team like the Yankees with that kind of history, that is saying something, and you just can't let that walk away...
2007-09-05 16:40:52
54.   Zack
Has Washburn inherited the Frank Castillo "I can dominate the Yankees with pure junk" mantle?
2007-09-05 16:41:11
55.   EricSanSan
Why doesn't Hughes get that call? What the hell?
2007-09-05 16:41:16
56.   SF Yanks
Jesus Christ BLUE!
2007-09-05 16:41:20
57.   yankz
53 Yeah you can. They haven't won a WS with him. Obviously he's not helping.

Also, Clipper had almost the exact same career SLG (.579 for JD, .577 for Arod).

2007-09-05 16:41:31
58.   yankz
Is this ump from Boston or something?
2007-09-05 16:41:31
59.   Zack
Ump better give that call to Hughes, that was so far off the plate. Hughes hasn't even gotten the calls that are ON the plate
2007-09-05 16:42:23
60.   EricSanSan
Way to punish the ball guys. Hold us down Phil.
2007-09-05 16:42:36
61.   Zack
57 I am going to assume you are being sarcastic, right?
2007-09-05 16:45:20
62.   Zack
And another "ball"
2007-09-05 16:45:20
63.   EricSanSan
We have a change up sighting. Nice throw Slam.
2007-09-05 16:45:26
64.   yankz
61 Of course, but not about the stats.
2007-09-05 16:45:28
65.   SF Yanks
61 Hell no. He hasn't won a ring so obviously he's worthless.
2007-09-05 16:45:56
66.   EricSanSan
This is bullshit. That was a strike.
2007-09-05 16:46:01
67.   SF Yanks
2007-09-05 16:46:12
68.   Zack
Why the hell would Ichiro not hit HRs if he could?
2007-09-05 16:46:16
69.   EricSanSan
Be consistent, sir.
2007-09-05 16:46:44
70.   yankz
Ah, damn. I said I'd watch till Phil gave up a hit. So, I'll be back later.
2007-09-05 16:46:54
71.   EricSanSan
WOW! We through a runner out. He didn't touch him though. We'll take it.
2007-09-05 16:47:32
72.   Zack
Hey Jetes, make contact next time
2007-09-05 16:48:03
73.   Mattpat11
Ichiro never touched the bag. Can't call him safe either. Technically he's still in limbo.
2007-09-05 16:48:12
74.   EricSanSan
Makes up for Willie Bloomquist early this season. He was out by a mile, so I don't want to hear it now. That cost us the game.
2007-09-05 16:48:18
75.   rbj
71 Evens things out (a bit) from earlier in the year.
2007-09-05 16:48:23
76.   randym77
Give Jeet an Academy Award! :-D
2007-09-05 16:48:48
77.   yankz
Whatever, remember that blown SB call we got vs. Seattle earlier in the year? That one was much, much worse.

OK, really leaving this time.

2007-09-05 16:48:59
78.   Zack
Nice K Phil. Hughes basically has to throw the ball right down the middle to get a strike call
2007-09-05 16:49:04
79.   JL25and3
I wonder why Jeter didn't just tag him again.
2007-09-05 16:49:37
80.   EricSanSan
Slider off the plate now. He'll chase.
2007-09-05 16:49:56
81.   EricSanSan
I like it. Good pitch.
2007-09-05 16:50:14
82.   JeremyM
Man, I am so happy Wang is getting the start Sunday. We're driving down to KC for the weekend (I'm from Omaha). Anyway, I was afraid it would be ruined by watching Mussina spit the bit. I've been a Moose fan for awhile, which would make it even tougher I think. Plus, I haven't seen Wang pitch before.
2007-09-05 16:50:56
83.   Eirias
68 Well, Ty Cobb also said he could hit homeruns if he wanted. Annoyed at Ruth for upstaging him, Cobb went 6 for 6 one day, with three home runs and had two more then next day. He simply like the strategy of "small ball" better.
2007-09-05 16:51:06
84.   Zack
2007-09-05 16:51:06
85.   RIYank
Phil looked like he was in the groove there for about ten pitches.
Maybe eight.
2007-09-05 16:52:22
86.   EricSanSan
Dammit. If we had a shortstop with some decent range, we are out of the inning.
2007-09-05 16:52:25
87.   Eirias
2007-09-05 16:52:41
88.   SF Yanks
When Hughes is behind in the count you can count on a fastball. You gotta make em think a little bit bud.
2007-09-05 16:52:41
89.   rbj
2007-09-05 16:53:30
90.   Zack
Sigh. This strike zone is really pissing me off. And it clearly makes Hughes lose his confidence
2007-09-05 16:54:28
91.   RIYank
Hot and cold. He's looked very good, and very bad.
2007-09-05 16:54:32
92.   Zack
Hughes is getting lots of swings and misses and like 0 called strikes. That should tell you something about the zone and his command being the problem
2007-09-05 16:56:38
93.   RIYank
92 Uh. Against Beltre, two of the three strikes were called!
2007-09-05 16:57:35
94.   SF Yanks
The M's approach is clearly to take the first pitch to get ahead in the count. Hughes throws a lot of first pitch ball, which increase the odds that they will see fastballs in the count so they can sit on something. Hughes needs to get the first pitch over.
2007-09-05 16:57:41
95.   Sliced Bread
I'd give Joba and Mo 2 innings a piece tonight. Just keep it close thru 5, kid.
Tonight we win, tomorrow we rest.
2007-09-05 16:58:36
96.   RIYank
Huh. Who'd uh thunk it?
2007-09-05 16:58:37
97.   rbj
Molina, Molina.
Wow, only his first dinger of the year.
2007-09-05 16:58:55
98.   Zack
Nice Jose!
2007-09-05 16:59:03
99.   Mattpat11
Wil would have popped up.
2007-09-05 17:00:30
100.   Zack
93 8 called strikes out of over 50...
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2007-09-05 17:01:19
101.   Zack
Wow, other than Molina, our offense looks like its on the plane to KC already
2007-09-05 17:01:55
102.   randym77
Leiter says the guys who caught him always had an advantage when they batted against him.
2007-09-05 17:03:29
103.   yanster
Has Melky not swung at (and put in play) a first or second pitch in the last three games? Has he had a four pitch at bat in the last week? What's going on here?
2007-09-05 17:03:32
104.   RIYank
100 Yeah.
Over 50 pitches. 34 strikes. I guess that's still a low percentage.
2007-09-05 17:03:49
105.   Zack
I really wish Hughes could pitch somewhere other than the middle of the plate. it makes it really hard to get guys out
2007-09-05 17:04:19
106.   EricSanSan
More offspeed early in the count. They are starting to sit dead red on the heater. Have to work backwards sometimes.
2007-09-05 17:04:42
107.   RIYank
Now we need the K.
2007-09-05 17:05:20
108.   Zack
Um, that was a strike
2007-09-05 17:06:29
109.   Zack
Curve is breaking harder today and thereby generating more gbs...
2007-09-05 17:07:32
110.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Has Hughes still not completely recovered from the bad hamstring??
2007-09-05 17:07:39
111.   RIYank
Big time pitch.
2007-09-05 17:07:48
112.   Zack
Nice k! Although it looked like it wasn't where Jose wanted it
2007-09-05 17:08:36
113.   Zack
Wow, watching Molina and Giambi chase down a foul pop up is a scary, ugly sight
2007-09-05 17:08:51
114.   SF Yanks
Nice, kid!
2007-09-05 17:08:51
115.   rbj
Nice pitching Phil!
2007-09-05 17:09:26
116.   SF Yanks
71 pitches.
2007-09-05 17:09:27
117.   Zack
Nice pitching Phil! That curve is working today!
2007-09-05 17:09:42
118.   3rd gen yankee fan
Sweet sweet sweet. Sweet Phil Hughes
2007-09-05 17:10:08
119.   Zack
Looks like a 5 IP game for Hughes most likely. Not that it matters if our offense doesn't do anything
2007-09-05 17:10:09
120.   rufuswashere
113 Had the same exact thought. Ball landed in the seats, so no problem.
2007-09-05 17:10:14
121.   RIYank
Damn, one mistake tonight and he's behind.
Well, let's put up a crooked number, and Phil can pitch the fifth and sixth.
2007-09-05 17:10:45
122.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
113 Watching Giambi run the bases always makes me laugh..he's not exactly Barry Sanders...
2007-09-05 17:12:20
123.   Zack
122 Could be worse, he could run like Lugo
2007-09-05 17:13:13
124.   SF Yanks
How can all these ALL STARS not hit an 86 mph junkballer?
2007-09-05 17:15:23
125.   Zack
Clearly Hughes just needs to throw slower
2007-09-05 17:16:24
126.   SF Yanks
Fuck!! This offense is frustrating the shit outta me. I know it's still really early, but this is pathetic. Get some friggin runs on the board huh.
2007-09-05 17:17:06
127.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
White Sox beating Detroit again! It's all set up for the Yanks, but why are they not crushing this guy and putting the M's out of reach?
2007-09-05 17:18:03
128.   OldYanksFan
It seems to me that Jeters defense is actually getting worse. This is a scary thought. Maybe ARod re-ups on the condition that he plays SS. That would REALLY make him valuable. Jete's would be OK at 1st base.
2007-09-05 17:18:11
129.   Zack
The Yanks have one freaking hit
2007-09-05 17:18:50
130.   SF Yanks
127 Cuz he's pitching the game of his life don't ya know?
2007-09-05 17:18:54
131.   Zack
wow he looked safe
2007-09-05 17:19:16
132.   randym77
But the umpires are on our side!
2007-09-05 17:19:21
133.   SF Yanks
Wow, these umps suck. Who the hell school's these umps?
2007-09-05 17:19:35
134.   Zack
If Phil can't get the calls behind the plate at least he's getting them in the field...
2007-09-05 17:19:39
135.   Alex Belth
He was safe. Good job by the skipper getting run there, further firing up his team. Yanks need to bear down...
2007-09-05 17:20:01
136.   Alex Belth
Oh, I thought he got bad.
2007-09-05 17:20:27
137.   OldYanksFan
Getting lots of breaks today. MAN! Ichiro is FAST!
2007-09-05 17:20:31
138.   Zack
And the ump goes back to stiffing Phil
2007-09-05 17:20:52
139.   Zack
Love those GBs!
2007-09-05 17:21:06
140.   Alex Belth
A Very Nice Inning...bravo, Mr. Hughes.
2007-09-05 17:21:14
141.   SF Yanks
Wow, an 8 pitch inning. Excellent, just what he needed.
2007-09-05 17:21:21
142.   Raf
128 That move would've come 3 years too late...
2007-09-05 17:21:33
143.   Zack
Awesome inning for Phil! I guess you have to go for 6 now
2007-09-05 17:21:35
144.   RIYank
125 Geez, I thought you were kidding, Zack, but you called it!
2007-09-05 17:21:43
145.   OldYanksFan
How many pitches for Prince Philip?
2007-09-05 17:21:57
146.   SF Yanks
You see how much more effective he can be when that curve is over the outer half and down? It's insane.
2007-09-05 17:22:49
147.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
142 Is there really any chance of Jeter moving to either 3rd or the OF? He should really follow Robin Yount's lead..always thought they were similar type players..
2007-09-05 17:23:16
148.   RIYank
145 79
2007-09-05 17:23:30
149.   Zack
79 pitches. That was an 8 pitch inning. Love it.

Hopefully today signals that Hughes' curve is back, which means maybe the control will follow. That curve is a thing of beauty.

2007-09-05 17:24:25
150.   Zack
When Hughes is in the dugout with his hat off, he looks like Gator's son rather than disciple.
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2007-09-05 17:24:41
151.   SF Yanks
Runs fellas, runs.
2007-09-05 17:25:19
152.   Zack
This is pathetic
2007-09-05 17:25:26
153.   Yankees Brasil
Can we get another hit?
2007-09-05 17:26:44
154.   Yankees Brasil
Giambi has been hitting like Andy Phillips lately.
2007-09-05 17:26:59
155.   SF Yanks
At least give Phil a chance to grab a W.

Washburn sure is getting a lot of jam-shots.

2007-09-05 17:27:16
156.   Zack
How the heck can the Yankees be so late on such a slow fb
2007-09-05 17:27:49
157.   SF Yanks
2007-09-05 17:28:17
158.   Zack
2007-09-05 17:28:22
159.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Is Molina slower than Bye-Bye Balboni?
Forgive the non-sequitirs this morning, big typhoon hitting here and its got everyone a bit loopy...
2007-09-05 17:28:36
160.   RIYank
Betemit swung at ball four.
Well, this is better, it gives Masher Molina a chance to lead off. I predict we'll score next inning, third time through the order.
2007-09-05 17:30:40
161.   Zack
And another "ball"
2007-09-05 17:31:16
162.   Mattpat11
Out by a mile.
2007-09-05 17:31:30
163.   rbj
Duncan -- maybe sitting Abreu was a good move.
2007-09-05 17:31:43
164.   Zack
Wow, Duncan's got a cannon!!
2007-09-05 17:32:01
165.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
On the money, Duncanstein!
2007-09-05 17:32:02
166.   Zack
Duncan looks like such a goofy kid out there!
2007-09-05 17:32:02
167.   SF Yanks
Nice throw Shellystein!
2007-09-05 17:32:14
168.   RIYank
No you run on Shelley!
2007-09-05 17:33:12
169.   Zack
I love how Duncan just can't resist smiling like a kid. he just loves to play
2007-09-05 17:33:53
170.   williamnyy23
It's a good thing Duncan's defense showed up tonight because Torre's house money lineup sure hasn't.
2007-09-05 17:33:56
171.   Zack
Phil might be losing his control now that hes into uncharted 6th inning territory, what with the limit
2007-09-05 17:34:01
172.   SF Yanks
165 Great minds. I like yours much better.
2007-09-05 17:36:15
173.   Zack
That was a nasty pitch there, I thought he got him
2007-09-05 17:36:32
174.   RIYank
Sweet. Well, good job.

Phil got a good call on that fifth pitch, the low fastball.

Now let's get him a W.

2007-09-05 17:36:43
175.   Zack
NIIIIIICE! Good game Phil, much, much improved!
2007-09-05 17:37:17
176.   ChrisS
3:1 K:BB

I think this kid will be alright.

2007-09-05 17:37:26
177.   SF Yanks
Great outing kid! I'll take that any day. Final line: 6 5 2 2 2 6
97 pitches
2007-09-05 17:38:33
178.   OldYanksFan
Not a bad outing but not great. A number of hard hit balls, men thrown out, and calls going our way.
But better. His confidence should go up some.
Joba-Joba-Mo coming. A win if we score 2.
2007-09-05 17:38:50
179.   SF Yanks
WOW, what a break.
2007-09-05 17:39:08
180.   Zack
Wow did Jose get lucky there...
2007-09-05 17:39:10
181.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
177 Definately. Annoying to hear all the Qs about this guy recently, he'll be fine.
Almost so excited for next year's Hughes/Joba/Kennedy rotation that I won't be too upset if we miss out this year
2007-09-05 17:39:27
182.   RIYank
Unbelievable. What can you say?
2007-09-05 17:39:44
183.   OldYanksFan
WTF is the matter with Molina? Is he NUTS? What a lucky break. Man... someone is smiling on us so far.
2007-09-05 17:39:45
184.   ChrisS
178 All but guaranteed, Jose Ruth is up after all.
2007-09-05 17:39:46
185.   nick
oh man what was chubby Jose thinkin!?
2007-09-05 17:39:48
186.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Umm...why was Molina going for it there with no outs???
2007-09-05 17:40:28
187.   williamnyy23
Bunting to put Molina at 3rd base...Molina? Would Torre stop being an obstacle already??
2007-09-05 17:40:32
188.   nick
& a hell of a bunt to get him to 3rd--
2007-09-05 17:40:37
189.   Schteeve
I'm all for hustle, but I'd bench that sumofabitch for some dumb shit like that.
2007-09-05 17:40:55
190.   SF Yanks
178 The ump also squeezed him a SHIT load, so it all evens out. That was fantastic outing in my mind.
2007-09-05 17:40:56
191.   Zack
Oh yeah, with the way our offense is going, manufacturing a run seems almost necessary, doesn't it? I mean, as much as I hate bunting, its not like our O is doing jack crap anyways
2007-09-05 17:41:27
192.   OldYanksFan
Patience.... wait for a good pitch Melky....
2007-09-05 17:41:49
193.   Zack
So I say Molina should catch Hughes next time too, the pitch selection seemed a bit better today, though still not enough changes...
2007-09-05 17:42:49
194.   ChrisS
103 4 pitch AB right there.
2007-09-05 17:42:50
195.   Mattpat11
Oh for christ sakes.
2007-09-05 17:43:33
196.   Zack
Freaking ridiculous...
2007-09-05 17:43:36
197.   SF Yanks
Way to get that all important runner home Melky.
2007-09-05 17:43:50
198.   rbj
Time for a clutch single, Derek.
2007-09-05 17:44:00
199.   ChrisS
Damon may not be A-Rod, but I hope to god that sac wasn't for naught.
2007-09-05 17:44:26
200.   Zack
Cy Washburn working his magic yet again
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2007-09-05 17:44:26
201.   SF Yanks
How about a little of the Captain Clutchness huh Cap?
2007-09-05 17:44:46
202.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
197 Exactly why it's absurd to give up the out there via a bunt..
really weak O today, awful...
2007-09-05 17:45:17
203.   Mike T
What is this, the Twilight Zone? Our guys have two hits, both by Jose Molina.
2007-09-05 17:45:42
204.   nick
they just seem totally off-balance against this guy...
2007-09-05 17:45:52
205.   SF Yanks
These guys are getting jammed constantly. Just sit on something inside fer Christ sake.
2007-09-05 17:46:12
206.   Zack
I am embarrassed for this offense.
2007-09-05 17:46:26
207.   rbj
Dang. Well hit but bad placement.
2007-09-05 17:46:43
208.   Mattpat11
This is infuriating.

If the Yankees don't want to be here, couldn't we just forfeit? Why even bother?

2007-09-05 17:46:45
209.   Mattpat11
This is infuriating.

If the Yankees don't want to be here, couldn't we just forfeit? Why even bother?

2007-09-05 17:46:46
210.   Zack
Crap on a stick
2007-09-05 17:47:20
211.   Zack
Gotta go Joba for 2 here. Its either that or the Farns, and, well, lets pray for Joba for two
2007-09-05 17:47:20
212.   ChrisS
This team is so frustrating, offensively.
2007-09-05 17:47:28
213.   williamnyy23
Way to put your team in a position to fail Joe...It's bad enough that the lineup is a disgrace, but the in-game managing is just too much to overcome.
2007-09-05 17:47:30
214.   OldYanksFan
well... at least Jetes hit it hard. Take away the Boston series and Derek has been useless for a month. Is he stii hurtin'?
2007-09-05 17:47:37
215.   Schteeve
208 and 209

That is an over-overreaction.

2007-09-05 17:48:13
216.   SF Yanks
Good job Captain Hall Of Famer So Amazing In The Clutch Derek Jeter. He sure hasn't been so captain like lately. Oh well, it will turn around, just hopefully soon.
2007-09-05 17:49:17
217.   SF Yanks
213 Huh?
2007-09-05 17:49:18
218.   Mattpat11
215 This team is playing for its life and THIS is the outing they turn in against JARROD WASHBURN?
2007-09-05 17:50:39
219.   Zack
Does Joba do the prayer thing before every inning, or just his first?
2007-09-05 17:50:47
220.   RIYank
Very efficient.
2007-09-05 17:50:51
221.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Well, at the very least I hope Moose is taking notes.

See Mike, you can succeed with an 86 mph fastball, and yes, you can throw inside as well.

You see, if you only throw away away away, that's when you get clobbered, but you can still get an 86 mph pitch in on the hands and get some popups. Thank you Professor Washburn.

2007-09-05 17:51:48
222.   Mattpat11
221 Its not like Washburn is pitching well this year.
2007-09-05 17:51:51
223.   Zack
2007-09-05 17:52:24
224.   rconn23
This team is done.

Jeter is in a bad way right now. Posada and A-Rod are the only ones who can hit right now. The pitching is suspect to say the least.

It's an old, tired team. Jarod Washburn is an average pitcher and they make him look like Koufax. Most infuriating team ever.

2007-09-05 17:52:37
225.   SF Yanks
219 I believe just his first but I'm not positive.
2007-09-05 17:53:13
226.   Zack
easy now guys, let's not jump too far into panic land...

and there is Kay orgasming over 100 mph yet again

2007-09-05 17:53:20
227.   seattleyank
What happened? All I can see on Gameday is "Injury delay." Please tell me Joba is OK.
2007-09-05 17:54:06
228.   RIYank
224 Darn.
I guess I'll stop watching.
2007-09-05 17:54:18
229.   Zack
227 Molina got a foul ball to the shoulder/head
2007-09-05 17:54:19
230.   SF Yanks
224 I'm glad you gave up so early. Go enjoy some golf then.
2007-09-05 17:54:20
231.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Damn, meeting time here, will miss the rest of Joba-time...but at least won't be subjected to the horror of Kate Smith and 'God Bless America'. Am I the only one who finds it very offensive to play that song when half the players come from other countries? Should God not bless the Dominican Republic as well?
2007-09-05 17:55:15
232.   rbj
224 They did alright hitting yesterday. They are leading in the WC.

And I don't disagree with bunting Molina over. It's the sixth inning and he's the only one who's actually had a hit. Tie up the game and get into the Seattle bullpen.

2007-09-05 17:55:19
233.   Maniakes
224 This team, for all its failings, will at the end of the day be either tied for the wild card or up two games. "Done" would be if they were several games back.
2007-09-05 17:55:33
234.   SF Yanks
99 Kay? It said 102.
2007-09-05 17:55:53
235.   Zack
Its so funny how obsessed with velocity people are. Kay orgasms over Joba and gets so much more excited over him than Hughes, likewise most everyone else. That's not to say Joba isn't awesome, but its getting absurd
2007-09-05 17:55:54
236.   Raf
227 Molina`took one off the mask
2007-09-05 17:56:27
237.   ChrisS
231 I'm sure some players hope god blesses DR, as well, all I hope for is that he blesses Joba's right arm.
2007-09-05 17:56:32
238.   Zack
Okay, we better get one inning of Joba here
2007-09-05 17:56:38
239.   SF Yanks
231 No because we are in America.
2007-09-05 17:57:01
240.   rbj
235 Can we start spraypainting "Joba is God" all over NY?
2007-09-05 17:57:59
241.   RIYank
230 Isn't there football next week?
238 I assume you mean one more.
2007-09-05 17:57:59
242.   Raf
231 I don't find it offensive, just unnecessary.
2007-09-05 17:58:10
243.   williamnyy23
217 Not only does he make up a silly lineup (sits Matsui and Abreu for Duncan and Damon), bats a struggling Jeter third and Cabrera second (two of the Yankees least productive hitters getting the most ABs), but then he gives away an out with the bunt (at home) and doesn't PR for Molina. It would have taken a very deep flyball to score the run, so even if you are pro-bunt, it doesn't make sense with Molina.

Joe is a big time liability and remains the biggest obstacle between this team and the post season. What a waste.

2007-09-05 17:58:25
244.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
233 Pretty sure we'll either be up 1 or 3, no?

No k's for Joba? BOOOOOOOOOOO!

2007-09-05 17:58:28
245.   Schteeve
231 I'm not going to get political here, but
1) They are playing in America.
2) The players and fans are currently in America.
3) It would be a tad impractical to play "God Bless Wherever You're From" for a dozen countries.

Why is it that you can't say something good about one thing without people some how interpreting it as a slight against all other things that are not that thing.

Mind boggling that that's an issue in my opinion.

2007-09-05 17:58:35
246.   Zack
They should at least add Canada to the song, I mean, even if Toronto is a worthless team
2007-09-05 17:59:25
247.   RIYank
I hate the patriotic one-ups-manship. Everyone plays the Star Spangled Banner, so we'll add "God Bless America". It's stupid. It's embarrassing.
2007-09-05 17:59:32
248.   Mattpat11
235 I'm not sure its the difference in velocity as much as its the difference in effectiveness to this point in the year.
2007-09-05 17:59:33
249.   Zack
245 GBA is a relatively offensive song to the rest of the world. Just ask Woody Guthrie...
2007-09-05 18:00:08
250.   Zack
248 No, its the velocity. Joba could give up 10 runs and then strike a guy out with a 100mph pitch and Kay would still orgasm...
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2007-09-05 18:00:36
251.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
243 You bunt Molina to 3rd tho not to score on a sac fly, but to make sure he scores on a hit. With 1 out you get 2 chances to single him in from 3rd. Otherwise it's 3 chances to get 2 hits to bring him in.
2007-09-05 18:00:53
252.   Schteeve
245 I stand corrected, I just read these excerpted lyrics from God Bless America

"God Bless America
Land that I Love
All those other countries
Can go straight to hell.
From the mountains
To the prairies."

Yep, very offensive, I had no idea.

2007-09-05 18:00:57
253.   rbj
246 I remember one time when they played "O Canada" in NY and the fans booed. (1980s) That was classless.
2007-09-05 18:01:06
254.   RIYank
2007-09-05 18:01:44
255.   SF Yanks


2007-09-05 18:01:59
256.   ChrisS
booo-yah bitches!

Take that junk back to Seattle.

2007-09-05 18:02:13
257.   Eric
2007-09-05 18:02:13
258.   rbj
Oh, man. Sign this guy to a long term extension. With a big signing bonus.
2007-09-05 18:02:14
259.   Mattpat11
250 Kay is a total moron though. I wouldn't use him as your sample size.
2007-09-05 18:02:15
260.   Zack
I would like to say that last week I finally figured out what Hughes' problem was, and tonight i took action to remedy it and it seems to have worked a bit--I had picked up Hughes on my fantasy team while injured and had started him until tonight, when I benched him!


2007-09-05 18:02:28
261.   Mike T
The guy comes through once again. We definitely should let him walk at the end of the season.
2007-09-05 18:02:37
262.   Schteeve
Pathetic effort. I can't believe how lame they are. This season is sunk.
2007-09-05 18:02:55
263.   Mattpat11
253 I agree.
2007-09-05 18:03:20
264.   rbj
260 Heck, SWB is still playing, can you send him down to AAA?
2007-09-05 18:03:27
265.   RIYank
Okay, I think Washburn is rattled now. If Shelley can get the timing right, this could be fun.
2007-09-05 18:03:41
266.   Zack
Thank God A-Rod is on this team. Where would we be without him? Definition of mvp right there...
2007-09-05 18:03:50
267.   Schteeve
game over.
2007-09-05 18:04:09
268.   RIYank
262 I already turned off the television. For me, it was a moral issue.
2007-09-05 18:04:16
269.   Zack
Joe is gonna PH the Stink, mark it down
2007-09-05 18:04:48
270.   Schteeve
263 I'm gonna go out on a limb here and agree as well that booing the national anthem of another country, is classless.
2007-09-05 18:05:32
271.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Sherrill? Ain't that a girl's name?

(Just sayin')

2007-09-05 18:05:41
272.   Zack
270 What if its Red Sox "Nation" and the song is Sweet Caroline, or Dirty Water, or Tessie?
2007-09-05 18:06:00
273.   Raf
253 It happened in 1993 too.

I do remember a young lady forgetting the words to "O, Canada" back in '85, I think.

2007-09-05 18:06:50
274.   RIYank
Someone explain this to me. Shelley mashes lefties.
2007-09-05 18:07:02
275.   Schteeve
272 In that case it's an acceptable breach of couth.
2007-09-05 18:07:02
276.   Zack
273 Heck, I remember Meat Loaf forgetting the words to The Star Spangled Banner...
2007-09-05 18:07:21
277.   Mike T
266 Our guys would all be booking tee times for October, that's where we'd be without him.
2007-09-05 18:07:42
278.   Zack
Why are you bunting Duncan? Joe,. don't be an idiot
2007-09-05 18:07:57
279.   ChrisS
not sure why they'd bring lefty in to face Duncan, unless he's there for Giambi as well.
2007-09-05 18:08:26
280.   RIYank
271 Shelley.
2007-09-05 18:08:38
281.   nick
Shelley one of those throwback players, does all the little things and looks funny to boot...
2007-09-05 18:08:41
282.   Mattpat11
276 A couple of years ago it happened to some teenaged girl and the the basketball coach grabbed the mic and helped her through it.
2007-09-05 18:09:43
283.   ChrisS
or, well, drat.
2007-09-05 18:10:05
284.   Zack
Really great idea to bunt with the no-hit Giambi coming up
2007-09-05 18:10:26
285.   Schteeve
282 Mo Cheeks.
2007-09-05 18:11:13
286.   Schteeve
284 Looky there. Giambi got on base.
2007-09-05 18:11:27
287.   Raf
282 Yeah, I remember that. I think it was Mo Cheeks that bailed her out...
2007-09-05 18:11:32
288.   Ravenscar
That was in Portland and was Mo Cheeks helping the girl - the only time I ever was actually touched by the national anthem.
2007-09-05 18:11:51
289.   RIYank
286 Yeah, I guess the bunt worked!
2007-09-05 18:12:16
290.   rbj
282 Wasn't it somewhere in the South, too? Black coach putting his arm around a white girl. At one point in time it would have gotten him lynched. Nice to see that we've grown up, a bit at least.
2007-09-05 18:12:24
291.   Ravenscar
THIS, by the way, is one of the best ballgames I've seen in a while. Playoff intensity and strategy. Very fun.
2007-09-05 18:12:29
292.   RIYank
I'd like to see Posada in the on-deck circle right now.
2007-09-05 18:12:29
293.   ChrisS
Gamecast seems all goofy, is Cano still on base?
2007-09-05 18:12:54
294.   Mattpat11

Yes. Wikipedia confirms that. I didn't think it was that long ago, but thats definitely what I was thinking of.

2007-09-05 18:13:11
295.   Schteeve
290 We've grown a lot. We may not be close to the destination. But we've made a lot of progress.
2007-09-05 18:13:18
296.   RIYank
293 Yeah, he's there. Giambi walked. Full count to Betemit...
2007-09-05 18:13:19
297.   rbj
288 Oh, Portland. Still would have caused trouble at one time.
2007-09-05 18:13:49
298.   RIYank

But it really makes that bunt look bad.
And there's Jorgie! Oh yeah!

2007-09-05 18:14:07
299.   Mattpat11
Here's the video

Class act.

2007-09-05 18:14:17
300.   Ravenscar
Ohhhh that pitch had the plate. Bad movement on the part of the catcher to make it appear out of the zone.
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2007-09-05 18:14:36
301.   Zack
Umps got a whacky, whacky k zone
2007-09-05 18:15:21
302.   RIYank
Whoa. According to Gameday, Betemit just got a realllllly good call on ball four. Pretty clearly in the zone. Maybe that makes up for the early squeezing of Phil.

Cool, we get to see another crappy relief pitcher. And Bobby Abreu. Fun!

2007-09-05 18:15:42
303.   Schteeve
I'd be pissed if I were Cheryl.
2007-09-05 18:15:47
304.   Zack
I think the Seattle manager just wants to use as many pitchers as possible
2007-09-05 18:16:10
305.   RIYank
Okay, so it's not just Gameday. (I can't call balls and strikes with my eyes, I just can't do it.)
2007-09-05 18:17:10
306.   Schteeve
305 They showed one of those nifty overhead shots, it clearly caught the plate.
2007-09-05 18:17:28
307.   ChrisS
298 I dunno, Molina has been on a tear tonight

Yeah, I'm kidding. Posada is the right move.

2007-09-05 18:18:08
308.   SF Yanks
243 That's a lot of 2nd guessing imo. Tonights a good night to sit those guys. They can't play every game ya know? Also, it's a good way to get Duncan some playing time.

Thing is, no manager is perfect. If Joe gets fired, you will find things that you don't like about the new guy (as would I, I'm sure) and start calling for his head. I simply see it as that, no manager is perfect and all come with faults. To say this, "...a big time liability and remains the biggest obstacle between this team and the post season. What a waste" is a tad overboard.

You can't fault Joe for the team not doing their job. I know he has bullpen management flaws but I think there is some serious hind sighting going. Add that to all managers having flaws and you get someone who isn't happy with their manager.

I know we won't agree on this and we could go back and forth for ages, so this will be my last comment on this matter.

2007-09-05 18:18:35
309.   RIYank
307 Hey, if Washburn were still pitching, I'd stick with Molina!
2007-09-05 18:19:30
310.   Mike T
Gameday is showing the second pitch to Jorgie as a ball right on the middle of the zone.


2007-09-05 18:19:44
311.   Schteeve
There's no way Posada doesn't get on base here.
2007-09-05 18:19:48
312.   claybeez
231 Technically, God is blessing the DR and Cuba and Panama and P.R. and Venezuela as they are all part of America. The stadiums are actually in the U.S. which is just one country in the northern America.

I know it's not how the song is meant though. I don't really find the song offensive. There's nothing wrong with asking for your self or family or nation or continent or hemisphere to be blessed if that's what you wish. The song is not saying "to hell, with everyone else."

Still, I'm no big fan. But, I wasn't living in NY on that day and recognize that it may still hold meaning to those who were.

2007-09-05 18:20:14
313.   Ravenscar
Umm... I do want the Yankees to win, but where the hell was THAT pitch?
2007-09-05 18:20:24
314.   rbj
Wow, that takes a real good eye and guts to take there.
2007-09-05 18:21:21
315.   Zack
At least the ump is starting to squeeze the Ms now too after just Hughes before
2007-09-05 18:21:24
316.   Schteeve
Another marginal ball 4.
2007-09-05 18:21:58
317.   RIYank
If you were a M fan, you'd be pulling out your hair.
2007-09-05 18:22:03
318.   claybeez
Looks like there's some plate squeezing going on for both sides. Lucky for us, this time.
2007-09-05 18:22:11
319.   Mike T
Seattle is playing musical pitchers.
2007-09-05 18:22:11
320.   Mike T
Seattle is playing musical pitchers.
2007-09-05 18:22:17
321.   randym77
Leiter just said that this umpire is the kind who is fooled by where the catcher puts his glove. I guess that might explain the wacky strike zone tonight.
2007-09-05 18:23:23
322.   Schteeve
313 That pitch would have been a strike if the guy who threw it was named Johan Santana or Pedro Martinez
2007-09-05 18:24:30
323.   RIYank
Yeah, gotta pull O'Flaherty. His pitch count is up there at one.
2007-09-05 18:24:55
324.   Schteeve
Then again, Betancourt was nowhere near second base on that force.
2007-09-05 18:25:51
325.   Zack
2007-09-05 18:25:52
326.   ChrisS
Well, it looks like Joba may get his first ML win tonight.
2007-09-05 18:25:52
327.   rbj
I just hope Joba doesn't get too iced with all this sitting.
2007-09-05 18:26:32
328.   Schteeve
317 If I were an M fan, I'd be shopping for a new television.
2007-09-05 18:27:15
329.   rbj
Time to turn the computer off and just relax before bedtime.
2007-09-05 18:27:15
330.   Schteeve
I predict that the Yankees score at least 3 more runs this inning before the third out is recorded.
2007-09-05 18:28:36
331.   JeremyM
Boy, M's manager (I keep thinking it's still Hargrove), take it easy, you only have a 35-man roster here.
2007-09-05 18:28:40
332.   Chyll Will
I'm sure someone already asked this question, but I'll ask it again: which manager would you rather have managing your bullpen right now?
2007-09-05 18:28:49
333.   yanster
317 328 If I were an attle fan, I'd need a new tv and a new window. This looks like BS.
2007-09-05 18:29:08
334.   Schteeve
More like Brandon Sorrow, right?
2007-09-05 18:29:42
335.   Schteeve
332 Joe Kerrigan.
2007-09-05 18:29:49
336.   OldYanksFan
It's Mr. Rally-killer!
2007-09-05 18:29:53
337.   RIYank
Now there's the clutch. Verrrrry nice.
2007-09-05 18:29:58
338.   Zack
That was so un-clutch DJ!
2007-09-05 18:30:08
339.   randym77
Man, I thought that was gone. And so did Michael Kay.
2007-09-05 18:30:12
340.   Schteeve


2007-09-05 18:30:36
341.   OldYanksFan
I was about to hit submit when that balled bounced off the outfield wall. Am I an honest guy, or what!
2007-09-05 18:30:46
342.   ChrisS
331 McLaren (?)
2007-09-05 18:30:48
343.   RIYank
330 Krist, Schteeve. You almost got it on the next pitch!
2007-09-05 18:31:01
344.   nemecizer
2007-09-05 18:31:10
345.   Mattpat11
2007-09-05 18:31:11
346.   claybeez
2007-09-05 18:31:29
347.   Ravenscar
Wait, wasn't this a blowout when he hit that one? ;-)
2007-09-05 18:31:30
348.   OldYanksFan
I'll take some gratuitious stat-oadding here
2007-09-05 18:31:37
349.   Zack
Man oh man...So much for the vaunted M's BP
2007-09-05 18:31:46
350.   nemecizer
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2007-09-05 18:32:10
351.   Chyll Will
I KNEW IT!!! Man, I wish I was there right now...
2007-09-05 18:32:11
352.   ChrisS
Oh my.

Well, apparently, they do know how to hit.

2007-09-05 18:32:15
353.   Schteeve
343 Yeah, I should have said something about A-Rod.
2007-09-05 18:32:21
354.   RIYank
I just remembered that he already homered this inning!
2007-09-05 18:32:42
355.   nemecizer

Okay, I'll stop yelling now.

2007-09-05 18:32:46
356.   Alex Belth

This game could have sealed the award.

2007-09-05 18:32:50
357.   Zack
Well, heck, no reason to pitch Joba another inning now. Let him come in after Mini Moose. Bring in the Farns!!

But I know Joe will still find it necessary to pitch Joba, because that was the plan before all this

2007-09-05 18:33:43
358.   OldYanksFan
Once again, I'm just about to hit submit when I hear Kaye yell 'It's deep to left... THERE IT GOES!"

Man.. I have to learn to type faster.

2007-09-05 18:33:56
359.   Mike T
Well, there's something you don't see everyday. I knew there was a reason team mgmt. wanted A-Rod. Let's hope they want to keep him.
2007-09-05 18:34:20
360.   Schteeve
Seriously, if the mariners make it to the playoffs with this compulsive bullpenner ass clown as their manager, I will throw up.
2007-09-05 18:34:54
361.   Chyll Will
356 (ahem) Worrrrrd...
2007-09-05 18:34:57
362.   Mattpat11
I took the liberty of pushing A-Rod past Mel ott on the wikipedia 500 HR Club template.
2007-09-05 18:35:43
363.   OldYanksFan
360 Why not use a blow-out to see if one of the kid's stick?
2007-09-05 18:35:51
364.   RIYank
Bruney! Farns! Edwar! Bring'em on!
2007-09-05 18:37:19
365.   Schteeve
363 Or you could bring in The Big Boss Man, like the Mariners have chosen to do.
2007-09-05 18:38:00
366.   RIYank
Edwar is coming in.
2007-09-05 18:38:01
367.   OldYanksFan
The best OPS+ yr by a 3rd baseman was the year Brett hit .390. That high an everage adds so much to both OBP and slugging, he has an OPS of over 1.100.

That will be tough to beat, but when ARod gets hot... LOOK OUT!

2007-09-05 18:38:05
368.   SF Yanks
If only this happened one inning ago to give Hughes a W.
2007-09-05 18:38:18
369.   yanster
TB is doing in Baltimore: 16-2 in the 7th
2007-09-05 18:38:20
370.   williamnyy23
No more Joba is going to be 45 minutes between half innings.
2007-09-05 18:38:43
371.   Ravenscar
If A-Rod wasn't one of the best 3B in the Major Leagues, this game would be a good argument for some DH time.

But, I guess that would be kinda stupid.

2007-09-05 18:39:18
372.   OldYanksFan
Geez... we tied the game THIS inning? Seems so long ago.
2007-09-05 18:39:41
373.   RIYank
Rick White has played for twelve teams, several of them twice. He's been moved eleven times since 2000.
2007-09-05 18:40:46
374.   SF Yanks
I really don't understand the whole shtick about not getting the win even if your team was down at the time you're taken out. I mean, I get it, it's just that Phil deserves this win more than whoever will actually get it. I wish they could override it like they do with errors/hits.
2007-09-05 18:40:47
375.   OldYanksFan
He might have wrapped up MVP tonight.
2007-09-05 18:40:48
376.   yanster
371 Even better, maybe somebody should jump on his ankle once a week.
2007-09-05 18:40:53
377.   Schteeve
This will be a career best year for Alex in terms of EQA. That's crazy.
2007-09-05 18:41:02
378.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
WTF?? away for 25mins and come back to see A-rod hit tow HRs in the same inning??? WOO-HOO!
Seems like a Guinness lunch today to celebrate
2007-09-05 18:41:09
379.   Mike T
What nicknames have we settled on for Edwar?
2007-09-05 18:41:13
380.   Mattpat11
2007-09-05 18:41:28
381.   Zack
Wow, joe gets it! We get Edwar here, 100% the right thing to do though i woulda thrown Farns out there too
2007-09-05 18:41:32
382.   Mattpat11
379 All or nothing?
2007-09-05 18:41:34
383.   Ravenscar
I could use a couple good innings of low WHIP from Edwar, who's on my fantasy team. He's been a little less than I would like, but I didn't have good enough waiver position for Joba's call-up.
2007-09-05 18:42:42
384.   SF Yanks
372 Doesn't it though?
2007-09-05 18:43:12
385.   Zack
There's no D...

Not sure if there's anything else

Maybe another "Stick?"

2007-09-05 18:43:24
386.   OldYanksFan
Slim and Stink in. FrankenShelly and Giambino out.
2007-09-05 18:43:38
387.   randym77
374 Also seems kind of unfair that Washburn gets the L. He pitched a great game, and Cano was only on base due to an error.
2007-09-05 18:44:00
388.   monkeypants
Whoops, I'm late to this party. Heard jeter's HR, er double on the radio in the car on the way home. Gotta love Sterling's smooth as silk call: "there it is high it is far it is gone to right center. No, it's off the wall...ecuse me. And the throw home is late. It hit above the 8 on the 385 sign..."

Man, nothing as exciting as radio play-by-play.

2007-09-05 18:44:56
389.   Zack
383 I got lucky that I'm in a Sox heavy league and even with my crappy waiver # I got Joba. I also got Buchholz but it was mostly to try and trade him. Then I dropped him before the no-no, oh well...
2007-09-05 18:45:35
390.   yankz
Just got back, and I am very pleased.
2007-09-05 18:46:20
391.   yankz
Whoa- Joba's on a K-less streak!
2007-09-05 18:46:43
392.   Zack
Edwar looks like an 80 year old man in the picture of him up on the Yanks main page
2007-09-05 18:46:46
393.   Mattpat11
it should be no surprise that the wheels have fallen off for the Blue Jays in Boston.

I'm still waiting for them to take over the AL East or whatever all the talking heads were predicting before last year.

2007-09-05 18:46:56
394.   yankz
Also, A-GOD!!!
2007-09-05 18:47:29
395.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
388 That's hysterical...I can't tolerate Sterling or 'Oh my GAWD' Suzyn...always listen to the away broadcast on Gamecast
2007-09-05 18:47:48
396.   Mattpat11
393 and Lyle Overbay, the man that was going to being them to the promised land, notches another 0-3.
2007-09-05 18:48:25
397.   yankz
Shit, I have to go again, but this is sweet.
2007-09-05 18:48:31
398.   SF Yanks
Joe seems to be catching on lately, doesn't he? I don't know if it's just me, but I'm not disagreeing with many of his decisions lately.
2007-09-05 18:48:56
399.   Orly Yarly NoWai
Thank god.
2007-09-05 18:49:42
400.   SF Yanks
385 I'm stickin with Edwarrior.
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2007-09-05 18:49:46
401.   yankz
Guillen: Lazy motherfucker.
2007-09-05 18:50:14
402.   Zack
393 Well it is only a 1 run game, but I have no doubt the Jays won't score
2007-09-05 18:50:23
403.   yankz
400 I take credit for that one.

Also, my Firefox spell check knows "motherfucker." Awesome.

2007-09-05 18:52:30
404.   Mike T
The pitcher just got shown the door? Awesome! What happened?
2007-09-05 18:52:39
405.   Zack
what did white get tossed for? my seems to have packed it in for the night
2007-09-05 18:53:05
406.   yankz
7th SEA pitcher tonight.
2007-09-05 18:53:21
407.   OldYanksFan
Wow... 12 men to the plate, 8 runs, 4 hits, 1 earned run. HA!
2007-09-05 18:53:24
408.   yankz
405 Arguing balls and strikes.
2007-09-05 18:53:58
409.   randym77
Pitcher didn't like the call, and said something to the umpire. The umpire tossed him immediately.

He threw the ball toward the umpire as he left.

2007-09-05 18:54:37
410.   Ravenscar
389 - I also had to drop Buchholz before the no-hitter because they were jerking him around. Dur.
2007-09-05 18:54:38
411.   SF Yanks
Glaus hits a solo. Sox and Jays are tied at 4.
2007-09-05 18:54:49
412.   yankz
Joba's in line for his first career win?
2007-09-05 18:56:05
413.   OldYanksFan
The only thing that would cost ARod the MVP is if Detroit wins the WC and not us. Then it would go to Mags.

Way too much importance placed on a player who plays for a team that wins 2 or 3 games more then a better player on the other team.

2007-09-05 18:56:53
414.   BklynBmr
390 Same here. Word for word. This was a huge swing game. I DVR'd this bad boy and can't wait to watch the 8 run outburst...

The boxscore is out of control on the M's side. This should be the last of them for this year as far as anyone is concerned. October, here we come...

2007-09-05 18:57:28
415.   RIYank
Hey! (Hey) You! (You)
I don't like your bullpen!

(No way, no way!)
I think you need a new one!

2007-09-05 18:58:37
416.   RIYank
Our hit/run ratio is a very unusual one.
2007-09-05 18:59:41
417.   Max
405 409 White got steamed over not getting the call on the inside pitch that's been bugging both teams all game. Hughes got squeezed on it several times and Betemit got a gift as well, I believe, in the same location.

White pointed at the umpire, which got him tossed right away, then flipped the ball over his shoulder. Johjima tried to block the line of sight of the umpire as White started barking. It was pretty funny.

2007-09-05 18:59:47
418.   Zack
Well, I'm outta here, off to the gym. I must say, there is nothing more enjoyable than watching the kids win one for us, eh?
2007-09-05 19:00:12
419.   ChrisS
413 voting is done before the post-season, if I recall correctly.
2007-09-05 19:03:16
420.   OldYanksFan
418 ... Yes, but I believe very close to the last day of the regular season. If Detroit makes a last minute push past us, that will buy Mags tons of votes.

And Mags is having a great year. But still a couple of notches below ARod.

2007-09-05 19:03:26
421.   RIYank
Huh. Mo. Oooookay.
2007-09-05 19:03:40
422.   monkeypants
419 It is done before the post season, but not before the play off teams are determined, which is OYF's point.
2007-09-05 19:04:42
423.   BklynBmr
421 Mo who?
2007-09-05 19:06:26
424.   monkeypants
I've said before and I'll say it again: if Mo is brought in just to get some work, he should be on a strict pitch count (15 or 20), after which he should be pulled. Any slop should be able to get the last out or two with a 7 or 8 run lead.
2007-09-05 19:07:31
425.   Chyll Will
415 I give you props >;)
2007-09-05 19:09:18
426.   Mattpat11
I don't mind Mo in the game. I'd rather he come into a one run game on six days rest on Friday.
2007-09-05 19:09:51
427.   Mattpat11
426 *NOT come into a one run game on six days rest
2007-09-05 19:10:25
428.   RIYank
424 Well, that worked out then! (13)
2007-09-05 19:10:26
429.   BklynBmr
Congrats, Joba! And the resta youze guys diddn't do too bad neither...
2007-09-05 19:11:23
430.   RIYank
425 Whew. (I was feeling a little bad about that one.)
2007-09-05 19:11:55
431.   OldYanksFan
16 games over .500. Our best so far, although we've been here before.
2007-09-05 19:17:22
432.   RIYank
Sox throwing out Okajima in the ninth. And they still have Papelbon, although I guess he pitched an inning yesterday.

Oh, and of course, Gagne. So there's still hope.

2007-09-05 19:18:01
433.   monkeypants
428 Ha!
2007-09-05 19:19:25
434.   monkeypants
I missed most all of the game. How did Hughes look? How much will Was Watching bitch tomorrow about his performance?
2007-09-05 19:19:40
435.   JeremyM
I'm following the Tigers game a lot more closely than the Sox one, myself.
2007-09-05 19:20:45
436.   RIYank
Oh, nice, Okajima hits Zaun with a pitch. Only way he was going to get on! Pinch runner? Bunt?
2007-09-05 19:22:14
437.   RIYank
Phil was hot and cold. By Banter opinion, at least, he was squeezed early, and threw a lot of pitches over the middle of the plate. But he got some really nice Ks, too.

433 Oh, not that 13!

2007-09-05 19:23:50
438.   RIYank
Well, they bunted, and then Wells knocked one out. So the vaunted Sox pen has let them down again!
2007-09-05 19:24:09
439.   OldYanksFan
2 run bomb off of Okijima. Jays up 6-4, top of the 9th.
2007-09-05 19:26:09
440.   pistolpete
Would be nice to get to at least 4 behind Boston before we go back up there again...
2007-09-05 19:26:11
441.   JeremyM
Okajima has never thrown this many innings in his life, according to Abraham.

Torre's solution would be to give him more work and let him pitch out of it:)

2007-09-05 19:27:23
442.   Mattpat11
434 He wasn't very good early, but got better as the game went along.
2007-09-05 19:27:53
443.   tommyl
Was watching on DVR and just caught up. Wow, McLaren might actually be a worse BP manager than Joe Torre. Washburn at 94 pitches, had given up 3 hits. The homer to Molina was clearly a fluke, and A-Rod, well no one gets him out anymore. So he pulls him and plays musical BP because he can. I mean, you bring in a decent reliever, he gives up one walk, maybe let him pitch to one more batter?
2007-09-05 19:28:57
444.   Mattpat11
441 Is it a matter of IP or teams seeing him over and over again?

Its been the Orioles, Yankees and Blue Jays that have hit him lately.

2007-09-05 19:29:40
445.   tommyl
Also, its nice to see Seattle's pythagorean record catching up to them :).
2007-09-05 19:29:59
446.   Mattpat11
443 He's your typical ML manager.

Which is why I don't think Torre's eventual replacement will be this God send people think he will be.

2007-09-05 19:31:29
447.   OldYanksFan
1 out in Boston.
2007-09-05 19:31:51
448.   OldYanksFan
Big Papi up.
2007-09-05 19:31:57
449.   RIYank
Down goes the Sox' wonderboy. And here comes Papi...
2007-09-05 19:32:31
450.   JeremyM
446 I tend to agree, but our job as fans is to bitch about the manager. Still, his usage of Vizcaino has been baffling, and now he has a shoulder problem.
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2007-09-05 19:33:22
451.   Mattpat11
Big fatty can't tie the game.
2007-09-05 19:33:30
452.   OldYanksFan
Winning run on 2nd for the Tigers. 2 out.
2007-09-05 19:34:06
453.   OldYanksFan
Papi grounds out to Glaus at SS. 2 out.
2007-09-05 19:34:29
454.   OldYanksFan
And the Red Soxxxxxxxxxxxxxx lose.
2007-09-05 19:34:53
455.   Mike T
Jays 6-4 Sox Final
2007-09-05 19:36:34
456.   tommyl
446 Disagree, its different problems. Torre picks a favorite and rides him to death. McLaren seems obsessed with matchups, lefty, righty, lefty...blah, blah blah. Crappy pitcher=crappy pitcher.
2007-09-05 19:37:38
457.   RIYank
And the MVP runner-up can't get the key hit!
2007-09-05 19:37:51
458.   pistolpete
Bonus Cantos in Detroit
2007-09-05 19:39:19
459.   Mattpat11
456 And I think that's an even bigger pandemic amongst ML managers. Even Mike Scioscia, who everyone praises, singlehandedly lost the playoffs on a stupid ass matchup.

This is after he got rid of his team's second best hitter for an ego trip.

2007-09-05 19:40:22
460.   tommyl
459 Remind me of those two mishaps (the playoffs and the hitter)?
2007-09-05 19:41:20
461.   RIYank
458 That's what I meant in 457 . Ordonez grounded out with men on base to end the tenth.
2007-09-05 19:42:19
462.   JeremyM
Jose Guillen is the hitter, some weak-ass lefty faced Ortiz, if I remember right, in 2004.
2007-09-05 19:46:19
463.   Mattpat11
459 He suspended Jose Guillen (.294/.352/.497 27/104 119 OPS+) because Guillen "showed him up" by pitching a fit when he pulled him for a pinch runner.

He then removed K-Rod from an elimination game in the bottom of the tenth at Fenway so he can bring in Jarrod Washburn (99 Regular season ERA+ 3.1 IP 5 H 7 ER 3 BB in Game 1) so he could use his left handed superpowers against David Ortiz.

Mr Ortiz was not impressed.

2007-09-05 19:49:40
464.   Mike T
463 We can only hope that he fucks up that badly should the Angels and Yankees meet in the first round of the playoffs, as looks increasingly likely.
2007-09-05 19:51:24
465.   RIYank
Anyone still watching the Tigers?

Why are the Sox IBB-ing Guillen to get to Perez?? Perez is a much better hitter. I don't get it.

2007-09-05 19:51:51
466.   Mattpat11
If he pulls K-Rod so Darren Oliver can pitch to Hideki Matsui with the season on the line, I'll kiss him on the lips.
2007-09-05 19:53:38
467.   RIYank
Yeah, there ya go. What I said.
2007-09-05 21:23:22
468.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
465 467 Sorry, Timo may have gotten it right this time, and for the 10 games he's played for the Tigers this season, but he's a what did you say? A much better hitter than Guillen? Huh?

Sorry, I couldn't let that one go:

Timo's a career .264/.304/.376/.680
Guillen meanwhile -- .291/.359/.451/.809 for his career.

There's really no comparison. There's a reason Timo's bounced around the league and Guillen hasn't. And Ozzie knows it, as Timo put up the following atrocious seasons w/ the ChiSox in 04/05 -- .623/.562 ops Yikes.

Take it back!

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