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Bomb Squad
2007-08-12 07:58
by Alex Belth
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Each time Mike Mussina takes the mound I think, "Okay, he's going to get ripped tonight." That's just the way it goes with aging control pitchers (just ask Paul Byrd). Much to my delight, Mussina delivered his best outing since beating the Diamondbacks in mid-June, holding the Indians to just two runs in 7.2 innings. It was his fourth good start in-a-row as the Yankees bombed the Tribe, 11-2. Hot fun in the summertime. For Mussina, it was victory #100 with the Yankees, who are now 22-8 since the All-Star break. Boston still has a five game lead in the AL East, and New York trail the Mariners by the slimmest of margins for first place in the wild card standings.

The Yanks drained any tension from the game in the second innings, scoring seven runs off Byrd. Cleveland's offense was jumpy, swinging early in the count all night long, a dream for Mussina. Really, the most entertaining moments of the evening was watching Shelley Duncan's eyes pop out of his head with excitement as he prepared to smash forearms with Alex Rodriguez and, later, Jason Giambi after they hit home runs. Giambi's pinch-hit dinger in the ninth was a rainmaker, an absolute blast. As he returned to the dugout, Joe Torre looked up at his slugger, headcocked to the side, with a perfectly deadpan as if to say, "Are you kidding me?" Meanwhile, Duncan was in the background, shaking like Beavis on a sugar high, ready to pop his forearm into one of the big sluggers who might actually like that sort of thing.

Jose Molina had the first four-hit game of his career (they were all to right center field), Derek Jeter added three hits of his own, and Robby Cano and Bobby Abreu are still rolling. Oh yeah, Rodriguez hit two home runs, giving him 39 for the year, along with 114 RBI. The first one looked like a line drive double to straight-away center--the ball was in on his fists some. But dude is so strong he simply muscled it over the fence. In the YES booth, Paul O'Neill mentioned how envious he was of Rodriguez. The ball just comes off his bat in a way that it doesn't for other players, even other star players.


Yanks go for the sweep this afternoon then return home to face the Orioles and Tigers. Ian Kennedy could start in the BX on Tuesday.

Winning another series is a beautiful thing but a series sweep would make for a wunnerful Sunday, wouldn't ya say?

Comments (462)
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2007-08-12 08:34:11
1.   OldYanksFan
A sweep is a must!
Although I'm beginning to believe our competition is truly Seattle.
2007-08-12 08:39:37
2.   Raf
1 I'd wait until the Sox series to make that claim.
2007-08-12 08:47:54
3.   joejoejoe
Beavis Duncan? Cornshellio? Here's a video of Duncan congratulating Giambi.

2007-08-12 08:52:05
4.   Nick from Washington Heights
"Meanwhile, Duncan was in the background, shaking like Beavis on a sugar high, ready to pop his forearm into one of the big sluggers who might actually like that sort of thing."


2007-08-12 09:11:51
5.   seamus
According to Pete abe Karstens is getting Tuesday's start. I really don't get that. He hasn't performed at all.

That is unless he is used today. But if he is used today that is a bad sign since it most likely means Pettitte gets knocked out early. So I can't wish for that.

2007-08-12 09:27:54
6.   monkeypants
5 Let's see about Tuesday. If (and it's a big if) Igawa is cleared from the 40 man roster by then (thank you San Diego), then Kennedy can be added to the 40 man without anybody getting released. Then I would not be surprised if Kennedy makes the 'surprise' start on Tuesday.
2007-08-12 09:32:34
7.   monkeypants
5 6 But if Karstens starts, I'm just glad it will be Tuesday. On Thursday I make my annual pilgrimage to Yankee Stadium, and I was definitely not looking forward to the Karstens Show. Of course, I'll miss Hughes by a day, and also Wang. Oh well.
2007-08-12 09:32:43
8.   JL25and3
5 It makes sense to start Karsten simply because he's already on the 40-man roster. Since this start is strictly a one-off, the Yankees wouldn't want to start the clock running on Kennedy yet.
2007-08-12 09:33:49
9.   cult of basebaal
from petey ... the bit about Duncan catching is hilarious:

Torre said Jeff Karstens would start Tuesday unless he is needed today. … Asked who his third catcher was, Torre laughed and said he imagined Shelley Duncan would volunteer. "He would do it without equipment," Torre said. … Melky Cabrera has been told to stop sliding headfirst into first base. Not only is it dangerous, it slows you down

2007-08-12 09:36:55
10.   JL25and3
7 I'm going on Tuesday. Never mind my concerns about seeing Karstens pitch; he should be even more worried. Last time I saw him start, he got a broken leg.

Again, I think the 40-man issue isn't finding a space, it's starting the clock on Kennedy.

2007-08-12 09:37:04
11.   monkeypants
8 Good point about starting the clock. You're probably right--they might not want to start using up options for a one off start relatively late in the year.
2007-08-12 09:40:06
12.   seamus
11 agreed. that is an excellent point against Kennedy. Well, perhaps we'll put enough offense behind Karstens...
2007-08-12 09:50:45
13.   cult of basebaal
well, at least we know it won't be igawa ... he started last night for SWB ...

you have to hope that if karstens spits the bit on tuesday, they'll ship him out and bring up someone else ...

2007-08-12 09:52:44
14.   cult of basebaal
ugh ... another start for phillips over betemit
2007-08-12 10:28:29
15.   monkeypants
OK, let's work on the baserunning, Robbie.
2007-08-12 10:30:41
16.   Jersey
NO Andy. Not like THAT. Ugh.
2007-08-12 10:34:10
17.   Jersey
Meanwhile, the other Andy is dealing so far.
2007-08-12 10:45:58
18.   monkeypants
14 I'm not so bothered by Phillips starting, though the rational part of me knows that Betemit (v. RHP) and Duncan (v. LHP) probably will bring more to the plate.

I wouldn't mind seeing Jeter get a couple or few days off--maybe when Posada comes back--and Betemit filling in (rather than Cairo) makes me cringe less.

2007-08-12 10:50:49
19.   yankz
Was that an E-6 on Jeter?
2007-08-12 10:51:03
20.   yankz
Oh, I guess not.
2007-08-12 10:51:43
21.   monkeypants
19 Nah--he had basically no chance on the play.
2007-08-12 10:53:04
22.   yankz
21 Yeah, I was barely watching and only caught the very end of the last replay, thanks.
2007-08-12 10:56:45
23.   monkeypants
Nope--I just don't like these HRs.

: )

2007-08-12 10:57:29
24.   yankz
Johnny Who?
2007-08-12 10:57:51
25.   cult of basebaal
well, at least giambi isn't clogging the bases with walks or anything ...
2007-08-12 10:57:57
26.   BklynBmr
Duncan is going to put someone on the DL one of these days. He's dangerous...
2007-08-12 11:06:43
27.   cult of basebaal
if robbie ever puts together a full season like his last two 2nd halves, he's gonna have a shot at an mvp, arod be damned
2007-08-12 11:08:46
28.   yankz
27 Especially considering his solid defense at 2B.
2007-08-12 11:14:03
29.   cult of basebaal
robbie post all-star breaks (2006,2007):

84 games
326 abs
126 hits
.387 avg
55 runs
34 doubles
2 triples
18 hrs
79 rbi
20 walks
37 ks

yikes ...

2007-08-12 11:14:30
30.   monkeypants
OK, who is to blame for that bunt?
2007-08-12 11:15:06
31.   cult of basebaal
WTF just happened there???
2007-08-12 11:15:46
32.   yankz
Odds that Jeter bunts?
2007-08-12 11:16:10
33.   yankz
Yikes. Jeter GIDP again.
2007-08-12 11:16:15
34.   OldYanksFan
Can someone tell me how the Yankees scored?
And that is the 2nd bad bunt in a row by Melky. It he REALLY our best bunter?
2007-08-12 11:17:02
35.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Well that inning went from leadoff double to disaster pretty darn fast.


Jorge Pipp?

2007-08-12 11:17:04
36.   OldYanksFan
34 Needless to say it cost us a run, and Jetes an RBI. Maybe a hit if the infield is in.
2007-08-12 11:18:07
37.   cult of basebaal
jesus christ ... a fucking bunt???

you take the keys to the car away from joey joe joe and he still manages to spill soda in the cd player

2007-08-12 11:18:54
38.   yankz
34 Matsui 1B, Giambi HR.
2007-08-12 11:19:49
39.   rconn23
If the Indians win this game, that's the inning we're going to remember. No pitcher should ever get out of a inning throwing 4 pitches. No one.
2007-08-12 11:20:10
40.   monkeypants
34 Andy Phillips is a far better bunter, as he has shown a few times this season.

The Yankees scored in the most unmanly, morally reprehensible, and fundamentally unsound way possible: a two-out, two-run blast. We don't want to get into that bad habit.

2007-08-12 11:20:42
41.   monkeypants
39 Four pitches AND a base hit!!!
2007-08-12 11:21:11
42.   cult of basebaal
36 maybe, maybe not ... don't forget ... you don't have to play the infield in when you've got a molina running ... that's the other reason the bunt isn't a great idea there ... the only sure shot you've got for scoring molina from 3rd ... is a hit or a very deep flyball ... everything else is going to produce a play at the plate with at least a decent chance of molina being out ...
2007-08-12 11:23:42
43.   OldYanksFan
37 "jesus christ ... a fucking bunt???"
If the bunt is executed, we score a run. Is there something wrong with 'only' one run, when we are ahead by 2, from the bottom of the order.

Giambi HR? 2 in 2 ABs? Gee, maybe he can help this team.

2007-08-12 11:25:29
44.   cult of basebaal
43 see 42
2007-08-12 11:26:17
45.   OldYanksFan
42 Probably. I mean 'the future' as we saw it would have been different, but playing for one there is not a horrible idea.

I don't think a sac bunt is necessarily a good play. But depending on situation, it's not always a bad play.

2007-08-12 11:28:13
46.   yankz
In that situation, it was a bad play. Molina runs like he's wearing heels.
2007-08-12 11:28:27
47.   monkeypants
43 'cept it was the top of the order--after Molina's fluke double, 1-2-3 were due up. I'd like to think the top of the order could be trusted to score without relying on the bunt, especially if (as you noted) Melky is not a great bunter, and (as 42 notes) Molina running complicates the tactic.
2007-08-12 11:29:48
48.   OldYanksFan
Comments welcome: Here's how I see our SP.
Wang: Not dominant, but a #1 all the same
Phil: Still early, but I'll guess a solid #2, maybe better?
Roger, Andy, Moose: All solid 2.5s.
On paper, it seems this is an excellent rotation. 3rd or 4th best in the AL.

Am I wrong?

2007-08-12 11:31:17
49.   OldYanksFan
A great piece of hitting. Why are people so down on Giambi?
2007-08-12 11:32:01
50.   weeping for brunnhilde
Hey Team!

Long time, no see.

I finally got my internet back.

It seems we're playing like a baseball team, eh?

Unfortunately, I missed what seems to have been the most exciting game of the year on Friday with Hughes and Joba. I was out on the town. :(

Oh, and didn't our old buddy Mo pitch that game as well? He can still throw a baseball too, lest we forget.

Unbelievable what we're looking at these days.

All cylinders, man, it's glorious.

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2007-08-12 11:32:43
51.   weeping for brunnhilde
Christ, look at Robby hit.

What quick fucking hands.

2007-08-12 11:33:14
52.   cult of basebaal
damn ... go robbie, go!
2007-08-12 11:34:14
53.   yankz
50 You're lucky you missed the past couple weeks. Just trust me.

48 To quote SG from RLYW, a Moose start is like a box of chocolates.

2007-08-12 11:34:55
54.   cult of basebaal
welcome back WfB ... it must have been our discussion of last inning's bunt that drew you inexorably back in, like moth to flame ...


2007-08-12 11:36:00
55.   OldYanksFan
Damn! This team is fun to watch!
2007-08-12 11:36:22
56.   cult of basebaal
53 does that make a start by Kei Igawa like an open robed hug from a creepy uncle???
2007-08-12 11:37:09
57.   weeping for brunnhilde
53 Come on, you can't just drop something like that in there and not elaborate! What'd I miss?!

54 :)

2007-08-12 11:38:13
58.   yankz
56 Worse...the uncle didn't cost $46M.
2007-08-12 11:38:15
59.   monkeypants
57 You missed lots of comments like 40 .
2007-08-12 11:38:32
60.   weeping for brunnhilde
55 I know!

The other night I was remembering back when we botched two rundowns on successive nights between Alex and Jorgie and they stole home on us.

This is as gratifying as those days were excruciating.

We've earned this, man.

2007-08-12 11:38:42
61.   yankz
57 Well, they've hit a lot of home runs. You know, scoring the lazy, unethical way.
2007-08-12 11:40:08
62.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nicely turned, boys.

Nicely turned.

2007-08-12 11:41:04
63.   cult of basebaal
what was the "on field delay"?
2007-08-12 11:41:32
64.   yankz
63 Wedge sort of argued with the ump. More like a really calm discussion.
2007-08-12 11:41:41
65.   cult of basebaal
it's nice to have good andy back ...
2007-08-12 11:42:08
66.   cult of basebaal
64 thx
2007-08-12 11:42:53
67.   yankz
Easiest trivia question ever.
2007-08-12 11:44:11
68.   yankz
We need more runs. Farns is probably pitching today.
2007-08-12 11:44:47
69.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn, Robby would have had him as he overslid the bag.

Derek always keeps the glove down there for just such an eventuality.

2007-08-12 11:45:53
70.   yankz
Chien-Ming Pettitte
2007-08-12 11:49:29
71.   cult of basebaal
68 pettite's only at 69 pitches ... he could easily go 8 at this rate ... then right to mo (if save) or The Deuce (if not) ... hell, he might even get the CG
2007-08-12 11:49:42
72.   RIYank
Yo, Weeping!
You must have passed your internet problems on to me. I'm barely, gasping, tenuously connected.

Man, we've been taking your name in vain a lot ;-) All the awful homers we've been hitting.

Yeah, Mo did pitch in that beautiful game, the one we'll be talking about for many years. But his previous appearance was the one that made all of us weep. It was perfect, vintage Mo, striking out the heart of the order in a close game (against the Jays).

2007-08-12 11:51:06
73.   RIYank
68 , 71 Yeah, I'm looking for a CG shut-out today.
2007-08-12 11:52:08
74.   RIYank
I was about to say that Westbrook is pitching a good game but that he must be tiring!
2007-08-12 11:52:26
75.   weeping for brunnhilde
Check out my man Melky!

Just wait until he really fills out.

God I'm loving this team.

What a future we've got.

2007-08-12 11:52:28
76.   ny2ca2dc
2007-08-12 11:52:29
77.   OldYanksFan
Geez... we need more singles hitters so we can score!
2007-08-12 11:52:36
78.   cult of basebaal

bunt that!

2007-08-12 11:53:04
79.   monkeypants
Now I can be a bit of a stinker and point out that Viz pitched last night, perhaps making him les available for today if Andy starts to falter late. On the other hand, isn't it 'Joba day' today?

On the third hand, Melky tacks one on to make the BP question increasingly 'mute.'

2007-08-12 11:53:12
80.   weeping for brunnhilde
68 It seems Melky considered your point.
2007-08-12 11:53:15
81.   yankz
Ew, a pulled HR?
2007-08-12 11:54:44
82.   yankz
79 Joba went two innings, and I think Joba Rules say 1 day off per IP. Also, isn't having 3 hands fun?

Jeter needs his doubles stroke back. I'm tired of seeing these grounders.

2007-08-12 11:54:54
83.   cult of basebaal
79 it was only a 1/3rd of an inning, though ... a BFoG man doesn't even consider that an appearance ...

and joba's on a day off for every inning pitched ... so he's not available until tomorrow

2007-08-12 11:55:34
84.   monkeypants
81 And on an 0-2 count, no less. I mean, sure, we love the result. But he really should have been protecting the plate and going the other way in that situation.
2007-08-12 11:55:41
85.   cult of basebaal
82 i wouldn't mind seeing a bit of betemit at SS, give the cap'n a couple days off here and there
2007-08-12 11:56:16
86.   ny2ca2dc
79 this is Joba's second day of rest, so he should be UNavailable.
2007-08-12 11:56:20
87.   OldYanksFan
hmmmmm... I went to check the Detroit score, but saw this first:
"Detroit's Magglio Ordonez hit two home runs in the second inning... "
Mute point.
2007-08-12 11:56:45
88.   weeping for brunnhilde
72 :) I'll take the homeruns, to be sure, but I'm super happy with the line drives sprayed all over the field I've been seeing.

How 'bout my man Molina?

There goes Bobby, shooting it into left!

This is a tough team to get out these days.

See the ball, hit the ball.

2007-08-12 11:57:47
89.   OldYanksFan
Wow... all of a sudden Boston, Seattle and Detroit all get hot. I think we scared them into playing well.
2007-08-12 11:58:54
90.   monkeypants
85 Beat you to it, chief (18 ).

; )

2007-08-12 11:59:13
91.   cult of basebaal
88 see the ball, hurt the ball ...
2007-08-12 11:59:17
92.   OldYanksFan
84 Really... maybe fines on 2 strike HRs would be appropriate?
2007-08-12 12:02:01
93.   rconn23
Seatlle is annoying. The ONLY area they are beter than the Yanks is in the bullpen, and even that is not a wide chasm.

Unfortunately, they were against the great John Danks, who sucks.

2007-08-12 12:02:29
94.   weeping for brunnhilde
All right, Andy, here we go.

Be the stud you are...

2007-08-12 12:03:25
95.   monkeypants
This is it--the high leverage moment of the game.
2007-08-12 12:03:46
96.   weeping for brunnhilde

That 1-2, man.


2007-08-12 12:04:46
97.   weeping for brunnhilde
Come on, Andy, make that pitch again.

Get him out inside.

2007-08-12 12:04:59
98.   OldYanksFan
4 runs doesn't look that big now...
2007-08-12 12:06:08
99.   yankz
Felix Hernandez pre-injury (including the game he got hurt): 2-1, 18 K vs 5 BB in 17.1 IP, .305 (!!!) OPS against, 1.56 ERA

post-injury: 6-5, 96 K vs 29 BB in 107.1 IP, .828 OPS against, 4.36 ERA

I know the first is a really tiny sample and he wouldn't have been that Gibsonesque all year, but man, what could've been.

2007-08-12 12:06:33
100.   weeping for brunnhilde
98 No worries, OYF.

This is our game.

Andy's all right and besides, we'll get the runs we need...

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2007-08-12 12:06:52
101.   weeping for brunnhilde

Fuck, another one!

That was strike three!

2007-08-12 12:08:15
102.   Mattpat11
Not a great weekend for Tim McClelland.
2007-08-12 12:08:47
103.   weeping for brunnhilde



2007-08-12 12:09:34
104.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nicely played by Phillips, not throwing the ball all around the infield.

NIce job, team, two outs.

ONe more...

2007-08-12 12:09:57
105.   JeremyM
Man, I was just thinking about Andy used to pick off all those guys....
2007-08-12 12:10:08
106.   monkeypants
How precisely do you get picked off with the bases loaded? I'm not sure I have ever seen that exact play.
2007-08-12 12:10:44
107.   Mattpat11
Where was Peralta going with the bases loaded?
2007-08-12 12:10:48
108.   weeping for brunnhilde
98 What'd I tell ya?


2007-08-12 12:11:37
109.   OldYanksFan
Unbelievable! With the bases loaded he gets picked off! Wow, I don't know if I have ever seen that. Talk about a rally killer.
2007-08-12 12:11:38
110.   ny2ca2dc
wow. that was really something. phillips making up a little for botching that pickoff earlier.
2007-08-12 12:12:39
111.   monkeypants
107 Also weird--why didn't the other runners break? Even if you throw the guy out at home (V. MArtinez--so probably a dead duck unless there is a throwing error), the other runners probably still advance to 2nd and 3rd.
2007-08-12 12:12:46
112.   cult of basebaal
how'd they do it? phillips sneak in behind peralta?
2007-08-12 12:13:30
113.   monkeypants
109 Hey, you're taking my material (106 )!

; )

2007-08-12 12:14:32
114.   ny2ca2dc
112 Yep. very professional by the Yanks. Gotta love that stuff - this is our team.
2007-08-12 12:15:34
115.   Mattpat11
111 Martinez thought he was a dead duck at home, so the guy on second couldn't break for third or he's be screwed.
2007-08-12 12:16:24
116.   OldYanksFan
I think both Cleveland announcers have sent their resumes to NY.
2007-08-12 12:17:34
117.   monkeypants
115 Good play by the guy on second, then. I always thought it was more or less automatic for the lead runner to break and force the throw.
2007-08-12 12:17:37
118.   OldYanksFan
Not ONE single response to 48 ?
Well... I'll just... go... to... my corner... now.
2007-08-12 12:18:00
119.   weeping for brunnhilde
Man, what crazy hitting by Hideki.
2007-08-12 12:18:35
120.   monkeypants
Did Matsui just pull an outside pitch? Tsk, tsk.
2007-08-12 12:21:11
121.   monkeypants
118 The biggest problem with the staff, in my opinion, is that they do not go deep into games consistently, even when they pitch well. Hughes is on a pretty strict pitch count, and Mussina and Clemens are basically 6 inning pitchers at best, unless they happen to be very efficient on a given day. It's like having three very, very good #4 or #5 pitchers.
2007-08-12 12:21:27
122.   weeping for brunnhilde
118 Well, I'm not qualified to compare to the rest of the staffs, but I will say that, having seen Moose yesterday, the velocity on his fastball seems to up considerably, so he really may contribute more than I'd counted on down the stretch.

That's a huge boon.

2007-08-12 12:22:43
123.   ny2ca2dc
118 I don't think you can jump to calling Hughes a good #2 yet.

Will be interestng to see what the playoff rotation shapes up to be... What a think Hughes AND Joba in the pen could be.

2007-08-12 12:23:45
124.   Mattpat11
122 If Mussina keeps this up, we essentially made deadline deals for two effective starters in Hughes and Mussina.
2007-08-12 12:24:08
125.   OldYanksFan
Does anyone know the 'average IPs per start' for the AL?
2007-08-12 12:24:12
126.   weeping for brunnhilde
120 Yeah, it was crazy, but he still hit it with such authority. The swing looked pretty savage, no?

As long as he hits it hard and doesn't dribble it to second, I'm a happy camper.

I wonder what it is he's doing differently.

It looks to me like his batspeed has increased, but I'm not sure.

2007-08-12 12:24:49
127.   cult of basebaal
123 i think consistency is going to be the thing holding hughes back at first ... going to be interesting to see how he does
2007-08-12 12:25:06
128.   monkeypants
123 We'll see as the year goes on, but I'd rather start Hughes than use him out of the pen. For the playoffs, should the team make it, I would marry Joba to either Hughes or Clemens (or both, depending on the rotation and off days), hoping that they can go 6+2.
2007-08-12 12:26:03
129.   cult of basebaal
nice ... 2 more outs andy and it's time for the MOwer
2007-08-12 12:27:22
130.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, come on, Derek!
2007-08-12 12:27:52
131.   cult of basebaal
128 well, by that time (and with the end of the season in site) it sounds like Joba's going to be off the strict no consecutive days and 1 off day for every inning restrictions
2007-08-12 12:28:17
132.   yankz
Jeter single
2007-08-12 12:28:49
133.   ny2ca2dc
128 But how would you work Hughes into a playoff rotation? Bump Wang, Clemens, Pettitte, or Moose? come on now, that ain't happening...

Quite a problem to have

2007-08-12 12:29:07
134.   weeping for brunnhilde

Nice try, Alex.

2007-08-12 12:30:07
135.   yankz
If you put Phil on the Joba Rules schedule for the playoffs, and left Joba in the 'pen, that could be pretty devastating too.

EDLV coming in.

2007-08-12 12:30:41
136.   monkeypants
125 You can find it under the league pitching splits for 2007, on

For starters:
GS 3476
INN 20415

INN/GS = 5.87

2007-08-12 12:30:46
137.   yankz
Has Cleveland hit a single ball hard yet?
2007-08-12 12:31:00
138.   ny2ca2dc
135 Might have to if we have SIX playoff-caliber starters... holy moly!
2007-08-12 12:31:59
139.   Mattpat11
138 Who's the sixth?
2007-08-12 12:32:06
140.   OldYanksFan
135 Is true. Plus once these guys are warmed up and in, 3 innings should not be out of the question, if needed. Mo, Phil, Joba and Viz has to be close to the best BP around, no?
2007-08-12 12:32:10
141.   weeping for brunnhilde
133 Well, I'd say it depends on Mike.

If he can at least be a .500 pitcher the rest of the way, keep him in the rotation. But if he starts back with that 86 mph fastball, I take my chances with Hughes, unless we have some reason to think a particular lineup is really vulnerable to slop.

Maybe a young, freeswinging lineup, but no team of professional hitters will be fooled by Mike if his velocity is down.

2007-08-12 12:33:06
142.   weeping for brunnhilde
137 They drove Melkman back to the track early one.
2007-08-12 12:33:09
143.   monkeypants
133 That's why I said that we have to see how the season develops. If he starts blowing people away and bad Mussina re-emerges, then I have no problem bumping Moose for Hughes. The fourth starter may not get much work in the playoffs anyway. Maybe one solution would be to 'marry' Joba to one starter and Hughes to another (say, Clemens and Moose)?
2007-08-12 12:34:01
144.   weeping for brunnhilde
Why not get Mo up, just in case?
2007-08-12 12:34:32
145.   Mattpat11
143 Not a bad idea.
2007-08-12 12:34:48
146.   yankz
OK, is crapping out at the worst possible time. Has anything happened after the popup to Molina?
2007-08-12 12:36:02
147.   ny2ca2dc
143 that would be pretty sweet.

Mo needs to be up now... good, there's the call.

2007-08-12 12:36:21
148.   ny2ca2dc
147 wait, wtf....
2007-08-12 12:36:28
149.   weeping for brunnhilde
146 Negative.

Joe came out to talk to Viz.

2-1 the count.

2007-08-12 12:36:40
150.   ny2ca2dc
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2007-08-12 12:36:44
151.   cult of basebaal
what's going on ... 2nd visit to the mound?
2007-08-12 12:36:57
152.   weeping for brunnhilde
2-1 smacked hard up the middle for a basehit.


2007-08-12 12:37:07
153.   ny2ca2dc
WTF, gator was tossed?!? what shit.
2007-08-12 12:37:11
154.   bartap74
When I saw that mound conference, I was hoping for a hidden ball trick.
2007-08-12 12:37:30
155.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ok, here comes Mo...
2007-08-12 12:37:45
156.   ny2ca2dc
Mariano time. come on. sweet, finally.
2007-08-12 12:37:55
157.   Mattpat11
144 he heard you.
2007-08-12 12:38:17
158.   weeping for brunnhilde
153 Yeah, evidently for arguing those two inside fastballs back in the seventh that Andy didn't get.
2007-08-12 12:38:36
159.   rsmith51
I was hoping that Torre would just go to Mo, once Sizemore got on.
2007-08-12 12:40:18
160.   weeping for brunnhilde
Let's go Mo!
2007-08-12 12:40:40
161.   OldYanksFan
136 So if going 6 is a hair better then league average, is that really #4 and #5 territory? And it is my perception that we have been going deeper then 6 on good games since the ASB.
2007-08-12 12:40:59
162.   weeping for brunnhilde
146 You still need a play-by-play, yankz?
2007-08-12 12:41:24
163.   RIYank
Good call, going to Mo here.

I would have left Andy in, though, myself.

2007-08-12 12:42:15
164.   RIYank
Uh oh. Damn. Not good.

Pull the outfield in, I don't want to see one of those bloop singles to score two runs!

2007-08-12 12:42:23
165.   rsmith51
Mo? What was that?
2007-08-12 12:42:29
166.   Mattpat11
That's not good. Mo doesn't miss by that much.
2007-08-12 12:42:31
167.   weeping for brunnhilde

Mo nailed Garko around the elbow on 1-2.

2007-08-12 12:42:34
168.   ny2ca2dc
2007-08-12 12:43:08
169.   OldYanksFan
Not good.
2007-08-12 12:43:36
170.   weeping for brunnhilde
2007-08-12 12:43:47
171.   rsmith51
Seems to have a lot of movement on his pitches.
2007-08-12 12:43:50
172.   monkeypants
161 You will note that I said very, very good #4/5 starters. Keep in mind that the 5.8 total includes really bad starters and NL starters (who sometimes get pulled early for PH).

Even when they are on, Moose and Clemens rarely go more than 6--that is, about league average innings when they are at the top of their games.

2007-08-12 12:43:51
173.   Mattpat11
You can always tell when Mo's going to have a bad outing early. Things don't fall apart out of nowhere for him.
2007-08-12 12:44:05
174.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice fastball up, 2-2.
2007-08-12 12:45:11
175.   Mattpat11
Good. I'm still worried about the ninth, though. He doesn't have his good control.
2007-08-12 12:45:13
176.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice play, Robby!

Rocky inning for Mo. That ball was well-struck.

Let's hope he recovers in the ninth.

2007-08-12 12:45:28
177.   ny2ca2dc
PHEW. how hard was that hit?
2007-08-12 12:45:29
178.   RIYank

Credit to Torre for going to Mo there.

2007-08-12 12:46:00
179.   rsmith51
Hit pretty well. I wonder how Mo will look in the ninth. Hopefully the Yanks get a bunch of runs and make it academic.
2007-08-12 12:46:07
180.   monkeypants
Ah, the ol' let him hit a rocket that happens to travel straight to a fielder play. That crafty Mo!
2007-08-12 12:46:18
181.   ny2ca2dc
179 you mean 'mute'?
2007-08-12 12:46:22
182.   Mattpat11
177 Looked like a clean groundball single off the bat.
2007-08-12 12:46:34
183.   rconn23
Luckily Sizemore and Martinez and Garko won't be a problem the next inning.
2007-08-12 12:46:48
184.   RIYank
I'm not very concerned about the ninth. That was the ballgame, I think. Scoring two runs from square one against Mo is really, really, difficult, even if he's not perfect.
2007-08-12 12:47:44
185.   weeping for brunnhilde
Come on, Andy, basehit up the middle.

We need some insurance.

2007-08-12 12:47:55
186.   OldYanksFan
Wow... I'm so used to the Yankees cruisin' to vistory that my threshold for 'nerve racking' situations is way down.

I actually has a bad moment there. My bad.

2007-08-12 12:48:11
187.   Mattpat11
184 This is true. If it was a one run game, there would be more to worry about when he's wild.
2007-08-12 12:48:20
188.   weeping for brunnhilde
177 My heart skipped a beat.
2007-08-12 12:48:43
189.   ny2ca2dc
Shelly PHing here would be nice. i duno. just to get him out there.
2007-08-12 12:49:31
190.   monkeypants
189 Agreed, but in the late innings with the lead, you know Torre will stick with perceived defense.
2007-08-12 12:49:48
191.   weeping for brunnhilde

Nicely hit, Andy.

These boys are hitting the fucking tar out of the baseball.

2007-08-12 12:50:15
192.   RIYank
Wow, two very long flies.
2007-08-12 12:50:22
193.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn, another one.

Nice play by Sizemore.

2007-08-12 12:50:30
194.   Mattpat11
Nieves couldn't even do that.
2007-08-12 12:51:15
195.   OldYanksFan
60 yards? 180 feet?
2007-08-12 12:51:44
196.   fansince77
Andy Phillips is truly a warning track guy. I can't count how many balls he hits just short of the wall. Unfortunately I kinda of think that is where his career will be...just a hair short of being a very good player
2007-08-12 12:52:04
197.   ny2ca2dc
190 Ya, i guess, but i'd like to see what we can get out of shelly at 1B, same for Betemit's fielding ability there.
2007-08-12 12:52:08
198.   weeping for brunnhilde

There's my basehit up the middle.

Ok, Derek, it's on you.

Step it up!

2007-08-12 12:52:59
199.   monkeypants
195 Nearly 11 rods!
2007-08-12 12:53:38
200.   weeping for brunnhilde
196 I'll settle for a good player.

If he only flied out, it would be a problem, but he gets his line drives.

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2007-08-12 12:53:43
201.   Mattpat11
What happened to the commentary?
2007-08-12 12:54:05
202.   OldYanksFan
196 It's true, and Andy tries to uppercut shots. He would be better shortening his swing and trying to line the ball. He doesn't have enough power for his swing.
2007-08-12 12:54:17
203.   weeping for brunnhilde
DAmn, good cut, Derek.
2007-08-12 12:54:44
204.   weeping for brunnhilde
Melk's gotta try and steal here, no?
2007-08-12 12:54:50
205.   OldYanksFan
I can't remember the last time Jeter hit the ball deep the LF....
2007-08-12 12:56:10
206.   monkeypants
202 The funny thing is that he had a little pop in his MiL career. I figured that some of that would transfer to the ML--that he'd be like Cairo-Plus. But he has really turned into a warning track guy (great call, fansince1977 196 ).
2007-08-12 12:57:10
207.   weeping for brunnhilde

Ok, Derek, nice and easy, up the middle.

2007-08-12 12:57:43
208.   ny2ca2dc
time for a Derek Jeter special
2007-08-12 12:58:01
209.   weeping for brunnhilde
Anyone notice how far Derek is from the dish?
2007-08-12 12:58:27
210.   weeping for brunnhilde
2007-08-12 12:58:37
211.   Mattpat11
2007-08-12 12:58:46
212.   ny2ca2dc
And there it is.
2007-08-12 12:59:04
213.   cult of basebaal
gorgeous, jetes, gorgeous
2007-08-12 12:59:32
214.   weeping for brunnhilde
This is my team!!

Basehit up the middle, stolen base, basehit up the middle!

A thing of pure beauty.

2007-08-12 13:00:06
215.   ny2ca2dc
214 And a walk for Bobby plus an A-Bomb would complete it... ;)
2007-08-12 13:00:45
216.   weeping for brunnhilde
214 I'll take that.


2007-08-12 13:01:07
217.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
38 Cheeseburgers out after only 6, Timlin in.

Chance for da Boids to do some damage.

2007-08-12 13:01:10
218.   monkeypants
215 I'd like about six more runs, then Mo to the bench and Farnsworth for mopup.
2007-08-12 13:01:48
219.   RIYank
Love me some Melky.
2007-08-12 13:02:03
220.   monkeypants
216 Weeping is so happy, he's talking talking to himself.
2007-08-12 13:02:33
221.   Mattpat11
218 Then there's no one there to clean up Farnsworth's mess.
2007-08-12 13:02:39
222.   RIYank
Red Sox have the lead in the seventh. That means the game is over, as you know. Impossible to come back against Gagme etc.
2007-08-12 13:03:15
223.   weeping for brunnhilde
All right, Mo, let's get it together!

I think he'll come back strong, especially with the insurance run.

Attack, Mo, attack!

2007-08-12 13:03:54
224.   RIYank
221 Yeah, that's not a good idea. Mo has to finish, even with a bigger lead than this one. I don't think it adds a lot of wear for him to continue at this point, does it? Assuming he doesn't struggle.
2007-08-12 13:04:45
225.   weeping for brunnhilde
220 ha ha hah ah ha ha!

Indeed. :)

I am happy, this is so glorious to watch.

And you know what? Jorgie's not even in the lineup.

Bring on Boston, man. I want a piece of them yesterday.

2007-08-12 13:05:48
226.   weeping for brunnhilde
Come on, Mo, hang in there.
2007-08-12 13:05:50
227.   Mattpat11
I wonder where one would go about buying a gigantic silver glove like Abreu has.
2007-08-12 13:06:00
228.   cult of basebaal
c'mon mo ... this is a big game to nail down ...
2007-08-12 13:06:06
229.   weeping for brunnhilde
Strike one.


2007-08-12 13:06:28
230.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, fuck.


2007-08-12 13:06:32
231.   Mattpat11
He really doesn't look good today.
2007-08-12 13:06:40
232.   monkeypants
224 We'll see. If he throws a total of 25 pitches or so, he's probably shot for tomorrow. But with 'only' a three run lead, you have to leave Mo in here anyway.
2007-08-12 13:06:55
233.   ny2ca2dc
oh no.
2007-08-12 13:07:17
234.   Mattpat11
Come on Double play ball.
2007-08-12 13:07:18
235.   weeping for brunnhilde
227 ha ha hah ah ahah !!

Come on, Mo, come on...

2007-08-12 13:07:19
236.   bartap74
I'm channeling George Lucas - I've got a bad feeling about this.
2007-08-12 13:07:20
237.   OldYanksFan
ah... Mo.... teasing us fans. What a guy!
2007-08-12 13:07:31
238.   cult of basebaal
so that's how this game is going to go ... c'mon mo, gut it out
2007-08-12 13:07:45
239.   ny2ca2dc
i guess we live or die with Mo right here right now....
2007-08-12 13:08:03
240.   weeping for brunnhilde
Figure it out, Mo, figure it out.
2007-08-12 13:08:19
241.   rconn23
This could end badly.
2007-08-12 13:08:26
242.   weeping for brunnhilde
I feel ill.
2007-08-12 13:08:37
243.   Mattpat11
Well, we're going to lose this game.
2007-08-12 13:08:59
244.   weeping for brunnhilde
They're fucking teeing off.
2007-08-12 13:08:59
245.   rconn23
Joba, Um Joba.
2007-08-12 13:09:23
246.   ny2ca2dc
lots of hard, hard hit liners off Mo..... oh no
2007-08-12 13:09:40
247.   fansince77
How big was Jetes hit now?
2007-08-12 13:09:45
248.   monkeypants
Every ball has been hit hard. Dare I say the unthinkable--it might be better to pull him here?
2007-08-12 13:10:03
249.   ny2ca2dc
well, maybe the lefty will get out...
2007-08-12 13:10:10
250.   weeping for brunnhilde
243 Positive thinking, Mattpat.


All is not lost.

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2007-08-12 13:10:32
251.   Mattpat11
Asdrubal Cabrera has two major league hits. Against Mike Mussina and Andy Pettitte.

The third one could be an awful charm.

2007-08-12 13:10:40
252.   OldYanksFan
I do NOT see a lot of movement on Mo's pitches...
2007-08-12 13:10:44
253.   rconn23
Got get him
out of there. JOBA JOBA JOBA!!!!
2007-08-12 13:11:02
254.   Mattpat11
248 For who?
2007-08-12 13:11:17
255.   weeping for brunnhilde

Ok, there's one.

2007-08-12 13:11:34
256.   rconn23
God, this is awfull AWFULLLLL!
2007-08-12 13:11:48
257.   fansince77
2007-08-12 13:12:08
258.   weeping for brunnhilde
Strike one.
2007-08-12 13:12:13
259.   cult of basebaal
actually, i wonder if part of the problem here has been the fact that the CLE lineup is still stacked with righties for pettite ... mo's nasty cutter is always nastier against lefties
2007-08-12 13:12:29
260.   fansince77
Watch the blooper!
2007-08-12 13:12:30
261.   Mattpat11
252 I think Kay decided that because they're nowhere near the plate, they must be cutting out of the zone.
2007-08-12 13:12:32
262.   weeping for brunnhilde
Strike two.
2007-08-12 13:12:48
263.   OldYanksFan
Farns warming? The human white flag?
2007-08-12 13:13:09
264.   ny2ca2dc
this is more like it...... keep the faith
2007-08-12 13:13:13
265.   Mattpat11
One more Mo.
2007-08-12 13:13:22
266.   weeping for brunnhilde

One more, Mo, one more!

Please God, one more.

2007-08-12 13:13:31
267.   Mattpat11
263 HE IS?
2007-08-12 13:13:46
268.   ny2ca2dc
HELL YES. K these bitches!
2007-08-12 13:13:47
269.   fansince77
2007-08-12 13:13:54
270.   cult of basebaal
c'mon mo ... you can do-eeet!
2007-08-12 13:14:08
271.   monkeypants
254 Don't know. I was thinking worst case scenario--if Mo just 'doesn't have it,' then anyone potentially is a better option. Villone?

I can't belive I just wrote that. I feel the need to shower now.
Two straight K's! Please forgive me, Mo.

2007-08-12 13:14:13
272.   rconn23
Gotta get thid dude out. NO VICTOR MARTINEZ.
2007-08-12 13:14:25
273.   OldYanksFan
I... simply... have... no... tolerance... for... tension.
I'm closing my eyes.
Someone please scream when it's over.
2007-08-12 13:14:36
274.   Mattpat11
He called that a swing?


2007-08-12 13:14:40
275.   weeping for brunnhilde

Oh, thank God that was a strike.


2007-08-12 13:14:52
276.   weeping for brunnhilde
2007-08-12 13:14:57
277.   Mattpat11
272 V-Mar is out of the game.
2007-08-12 13:15:11
278.   fansince77
Watch the blooper!
2007-08-12 13:15:26
279.   Mattpat11
278 Indeed.
2007-08-12 13:15:58
280.   rbs10025
Good Mo saves Bad Mo.
2007-08-12 13:16:04
281.   weeping for brunnhilde




Fuck, that was hard.


We win, we win!

2007-08-12 13:16:05
282.   Mattpat11

Even when he has nothing, Mariano Rivera is still better than most. I shouldn't have doubted.

2007-08-12 13:16:13
283.   cult of basebaal
272 you're right, no victor martinez ... he was lifted for a pinch runner in any case ...
2007-08-12 13:16:22
284.   OldYanksFan
Finding out that Mo is no loger automatic is like a kid finding out there is no Santa Claus
2007-08-12 13:16:26
285.   rconn23
Did we win????
2007-08-12 13:16:28
286.   fansince77
2007-08-12 13:16:30
287.   ny2ca2dc
Immortal still. Forgive me for even doubting the great Mariano.
2007-08-12 13:16:47
288.   monkeypants
That was scary. I apologize again for my moment of weakness.
2007-08-12 13:17:15
289.   cult of basebaal
2007-08-12 13:17:21
290.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Gagne in. C'mon O's.
2007-08-12 13:17:24
291.   OldYanksFan
281 Thanks weeping. I heard ya!
2007-08-12 13:17:53
292.   Mattpat11
Mo thinks the control was there?

Oh well. If he wants to believe in the tooth fairy I'd let him.

2007-08-12 13:18:16
293.   Mattpat11
291 Season sweep.
2007-08-12 13:18:52
294.   weeping for brunnhilde
Let's review.

98 OYF was concerned about Andy's jam. I said no worries.

Mattpat 243 threw in the towel, ye of little faith. "All is not lost," I said.

Just sayin'.


2007-08-12 13:19:38
295.   weeping for brunnhilde
274 That's justice for squeezing Andy.
2007-08-12 13:19:52
296.   rconn23

Oh now come on. Mo may not be unhittable say as in 1996-2003, but come on, name one other guy who is better? Seriously. Putz has, by the numbers, been the best closer, but would you really take him over M0?

No reliever is perfect. No one is unhittable. But Mo is the closest thing to it in the history of relievers.

2007-08-12 13:20:11
297.   ny2ca2dc
Man, this sweep really takes some pressure off for the rest of this set - as long as the boys at LEAST win the O's series.
2007-08-12 13:20:29
298.   Mattpat11
294 One thing you have to consider about my posts. With the notable exception of always being right about Worthless, Pavano, and Igawa, when I say something, the opposite ususally occurs
2007-08-12 13:20:45
299.   OldYanksFan
294 You were correct! You can change your drawers now.
2007-08-12 13:21:23
300.   ny2ca2dc
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2007-08-12 13:21:26
301.   Mattpat11
297 I think at the very least, we can beat Detroit at home as well.
2007-08-12 13:21:37
302.   OldYanksFan
GAGME gives up a TYING HR to Tejada!!!!!!!!!
2007-08-12 13:22:06
303.   cult of basebaal
ARGH ... 300 beat me to the news ...

what he said


2007-08-12 13:22:38
304.   rconn23
HAAAAAAAA! He is combustible.
2007-08-12 13:22:53
305.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Gagne. The gift that keeps on giving.

The only thign better than him on the Sawx is if the Sawx end up using the first round and sandwich round picks they get for letting him go on another 2 Daniel Bards.

2007-08-12 13:23:21
306.   weeping for brunnhilde
Meanwhile, back in CAmden Yards, they're knotted at 3 in the 8th.

Tejada homered off Gagne!!!

2007-08-12 13:23:55
307.   ny2ca2dc
305 Open question if Gagne is a Type A. they evaluate not just the current year, so real open question.
2007-08-12 13:24:14
308.   rsmith51
Wow this Gagne move was great for the Yankees. Maybe Gagne thought he was worth more than what the Red Sox gave up for him.
2007-08-12 13:24:17
309.   OldYanksFan
2007-08-12 13:24:50
310.   JeremyM
Francona is messing up, Okajima was doing the job fine as the 8th inning guy and there was no reason to take him out today....not that I'm complaining!
2007-08-12 13:24:51
311.   ny2ca2dc
Gagne getting booed by the Sawx fans in Camden as he leaves. nice. welcome to beantown!
2007-08-12 13:25:25
312.   weeping for brunnhilde
298 :)

So you're saying Boston's got this game in the bag, huh?--wink wink, nudge nudge.

2007-08-12 13:25:41
313.   ny2ca2dc
310 Over-managing, trying to do too much. Just like pressing at the plate...
2007-08-12 13:25:41
314.   rconn23
I do think Gagne is going to regroup. But we have to get busy and cut down some games until that happens.
2007-08-12 13:25:46
315.   OldYanksFan
Once again it's Papsmear against the O's BP at Fenway. Long odds. Can lightning strike twice in one series?
2007-08-12 13:26:20
316.   Mattpat11
Also, color me thoroughly unimpressed with the Cleveland Indians.
2007-08-12 13:27:00
317.   cult of basebaal
307 he is a type A, i forget the exact reasoning, but the sox FO inquired before the trade and we told he will be a Type A FA
2007-08-12 13:27:07
318.   Mattpat11
314 I think Gagne will be on the DL before the week is over.
2007-08-12 13:27:58
319.   OldYanksFan
Eeek... no Fenway. My bad. And the O's closer walks the leadoff man.
2007-08-12 13:28:07
320.   Mattpat11
And look the hell out, but the New York Yankees are fifteen games over .500
2007-08-12 13:29:56
321.   OldYanksFan
No. The Sox will not give up on Gagme.
One out
2007-08-12 13:30:00
322.   weeping for brunnhilde
Lugo 0-2 after having tried to bunt two pitches in the other batter's box.

Long fly ball to left, one out.

2007-08-12 13:30:57
323.   ny2ca2dc
317 I'm pretty sure the evaluations are not done until after the season
2007-08-12 13:31:06
324.   monkeypants
296 Dude, chill out. You are correct, historically. But this season Mo has been shaky at times, and it would be a stretch to say that he's the best reliever in the game right now, this season.
2007-08-12 13:32:38
325.   OldYanksFan
Pedroia out. 2 away.
2007-08-12 13:32:45
326.   weeping for brunnhilde
Looper that just won't fall to center.

Two outs.

2007-08-12 13:33:28
327.   OldYanksFan
Hinske steals 2nd.
2007-08-12 13:33:47
328.   weeping for brunnhilde
Agggh, stolen base.
2007-08-12 13:34:22
329.   Mattpat11
Hinske stole second. Did someone fall down?
2007-08-12 13:34:35
330.   OldYanksFan
Hinske at 2nd. 2 out. Youk up. 1-0 count.
2007-08-12 13:35:07
331.   monkeypants
Cripes, two blown calls by the umps in the ninth, which both favor the Sox.
2007-08-12 13:35:40
332.   monkeypants
329 Yeah, the ump. apparently, because he was out.
2007-08-12 13:35:41
333.   weeping for brunnhilde
Youkilis is a good hitter. He didn't bite at a good hard 1-1 slider down and away.
2007-08-12 13:36:12
334.   Mattpat11
Yankees are 29-30 on the road now.
2007-08-12 13:36:57
335.   OldYanksFan
Youk can't do it! Bottom of the 9th coming!
2007-08-12 13:37:18
336.   Mattpat11
WUM grounds out.
2007-08-12 13:37:28
337.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn, he's a tough out.

He keeps fouling 'em off.

Still 2-2.


Inside fastball rolled to short.

We go to the bottom of the ninth.

Let's go O's!!

2007-08-12 13:38:42
338.   Mattpat11
Fatty and The Beast lead off the 10th though, so Baltimore should get something done now.
2007-08-12 13:39:41
339.   monkeypants
338 Pretty much the same situation as two days ago. I wonder if Francona learned his lesson and goes to Papelbon?
2007-08-12 13:40:37
340.   OldYanksFan
Manny TheCarMan in for the Turds against the Birds. Mora leading off.
2007-08-12 13:40:43
341.   monkeypants
339 To answer my own question--nope. God bless baseball wisdom, like "you can't play your closer in a tie game on the road."
2007-08-12 13:41:08
342.   Mattpat11
Manny Delcarmen.

I'd like to once again point out that the difference in all ML managers really isn't all that vast.

2007-08-12 13:42:13
343.   OldYanksFan
K for Melvin! One out.
2007-08-12 13:43:10
344.   OldYanksFan
Gibbons in to PH.
2007-08-12 13:43:23
345.   Mattpat11
Youkilis stunt double is in.
2007-08-12 13:44:55
346.   OldYanksFan
Gibbons down. Two Out. No one on.
2007-08-12 13:46:00
347.   OldYanksFan
2 out single for Redmond. Roberts up.
2007-08-12 13:46:15
348.   Mattpat11
The flaw of using Jay Gibbons to pinch hit becomes apparent
2007-08-12 13:50:27
349.   OldYanksFan
Roberts Ks. Extras coming...
2007-08-12 13:51:33
350.   Mattpat11
I wonder why you would use Jay Gibbons to PH for the catcher when Hernandez is available.
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2007-08-12 13:52:31
351.   OldYanksFan
And yet another brilliant ESPN headline:
"Mets C Lo Duca feels 'great', still placed on DL"
2007-08-12 13:53:34
352.   OldYanksFan
150 Torre phoned it in.
Papi, Manny and someone else coming up.
Ortiz popup. One gone.
2007-08-12 13:54:06
353.   OldYanksFan
Thats 350 in 352
2007-08-12 13:54:46
354.   OldYanksFan
Pitching change for the O's. Bathroom break for Matt.
2007-08-12 13:55:17
355.   Mattpat11
Fat Man popped up. Slightly less Fat man up.
2007-08-12 13:57:16
356.   Mattpat11
Manny crushes Bradford. I don't think this is a good idea.
2007-08-12 13:57:27
357.   weeping for brunnhilde
Manny quick inside, but jammed just enough for Mora to make the play.

Two out.

2007-08-12 13:57:33
358.   Mattpat11
Well, it worked.
2007-08-12 13:58:53
359.   OldYanksFan
Base hit for JD.
2007-08-12 13:59:23
360.   OldYanksFan
Lowell up.
2007-08-12 14:00:12
361.   OldYanksFan
Sox 2-4 in X-inning games...
2007-08-12 14:00:48
362.   OldYanksFan
2-0 on Lowell...
2007-08-12 14:01:24
363.   OldYanksFan
Bloop out. Inning over, 3-3, Bottom 10th
2007-08-12 14:02:03
364.   Mattpat11
Patterson, Markakis and Tejada up for Baltimore.
2007-08-12 14:03:47
365.   Mattpat11
Snyder pitching
2007-08-12 14:03:53
366.   OldYanksFan
2-3-4 coming up for the O's....
2007-08-12 14:05:02
367.   OldYanksFan
I say it ends here...
2007-08-12 14:05:59
368.   OldYanksFan
We are what? 23-7 since the ASB?
Base hit!
2007-08-12 14:06:29
369.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Yes, leadoff single. Take 2nd Cory.
2007-08-12 14:06:33
370.   Mattpat11
Patterson singles/

Send him.

2007-08-12 14:07:26
371.   OldYanksFan
Basehit! 1st and 3rd! No Out!
2007-08-12 14:07:34
372.   weeping for brunnhilde
Come on, O's, come on!

You can do this!

2007-08-12 14:08:13
373.   Yankee Fan in Chicago

Single, Patterson to 3rd.

Do they bring in Pamplemousse?

2007-08-12 14:08:30
374.   weeping for brunnhilde

They're pitching to Tejada?


2007-08-12 14:09:01
375.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Wow. No Paps.
2007-08-12 14:09:10
376.   Mattpat11
2007-08-12 14:09:17
377.   OldYanksFan
Popup1 Shit!!!!!!!!! 1 out
2007-08-12 14:09:22
378.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn it.

Tejada fouls out to first.

2007-08-12 14:09:36
379.   Mattpat11
Bad Miggy.
2007-08-12 14:10:00
380.   Mattpat11

Just hit it in the air

2007-08-12 14:10:08
381.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Crap. You just know Mill-ah's going to gdp. Still a Sawk at heart.
2007-08-12 14:11:14
382.   weeping for brunnhilde
Come on, Millar, you fuck, get it done!
2007-08-12 14:11:18
383.   Mattpat11
Markakis steals second, avoids DP
2007-08-12 14:12:01
384.   OldYanksFan
2-1 to Millar....
2007-08-12 14:12:38
385.   Mattpat11
Huff on deck. Don;t let it get to him.
2007-08-12 14:13:02
386.   OldYanksFan
Thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeee Red Sox LOSE!
2007-08-12 14:13:18
387.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn it. He's going to fish for that slider again, isn't he?


My buddy Kevin Millar!!!

2007-08-12 14:13:26
388.   OldYanksFan
Walkoff, 3 run HR by Kevin!
2007-08-12 14:13:28
389.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
4 games.
2007-08-12 14:13:32
390.   BklynBmr
Now that was sweeeeeeeeet...
2007-08-12 14:13:38
391.   Mattpat11
2007-08-12 14:13:49
392.   Mattpat11
2007-08-12 14:13:50
393.   weeping for brunnhilde

Baseball games.






Was 14.

Now 4.


2007-08-12 14:14:27
394.   OldYanksFan
How Sweet It Is!
Boston is now tasking their drinking seriously.
2007-08-12 14:15:07
395.   seamus
boston better be getting nervous! :)
2007-08-12 14:15:09
396.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Man, the Bah-stahn ER's are going to full tonight, od's, self-inflicted gun wounds . . .
2007-08-12 14:15:11
397.   OldYanksFan
What can you say?
2007-08-12 14:15:18
398.   monkeypants
No-Maas really needs to start tracking Francona losses.
2007-08-12 14:15:39
399.   OldYanksFan
Smallest lead for Boston since May 2nd. HA!
2007-08-12 14:15:58
400.   BklynBmr
393 14.5, but who's counting ;-)
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2007-08-12 14:16:04
401.   OldYanksFan
Gagme singlehandedly giving us a chance.
2007-08-12 14:16:07
402.   vockins
Never thought I'd be thrilled to see a Millar 3 run HR, but here we are.
2007-08-12 14:16:15
403.   weeping for brunnhilde
"He cowboys up for the Orioles."

Indeed he does.


God, I feel great right now.

2007-08-12 14:16:30
404.   OldYanksFan
Boston BP gives up 10 ERs this series.
2007-08-12 14:16:34
405.   KJC
I think the Yankees did get Gagne. They just dress him in a Sox uniform instead...
2007-08-12 14:18:22
406.   OldYanksFan
Tejada is a dead fast ball hitter.
Gagme throws 7 straight fastballs to Tejada.
#7 leaves the park.
2007-08-12 14:18:24
407.   mikeplugh
This is the sweetest run in history. Niagara Falls? Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch....

Gagme with a spoon!

2007-08-12 14:19:01
408.   weeping for brunnhilde
How huge is it that Mo hung in there?

And the Derek-Melky insurance run.

We could really have lost that game, but we didn't.

This is just so sweet.

2007-08-12 14:24:15
409.   OldYanksFan
407 Welcome back Buddy! Where ya been hiding?
2007-08-12 14:25:31
410.   OldYanksFan
If we overtake Boston, I wonder where this year will rate on the alltime historic CHOKE years.
2007-08-12 14:27:04
411.   weeping for brunnhilde
410 Now, now. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

One day at a time...

2007-08-12 14:29:08
412.   3rd gen yankee fan
Sux lose, Yanks roll, all is well.
2007-08-12 14:29:22
413.   Mattpat11
411 Just the thought of those bastahds puking on Yawkey Way is beautiful though.
2007-08-12 14:29:28
414.   weeping for brunnhilde
Is that Eckersley on the Boston postgame?
2007-08-12 14:31:08
415.   joe in boston
The comments here from #386 on ... are priceless ! I was listening to the Sawx blow it on the radio - can't wait to catch WEEI for the next 24 hrs ....

Go Tampa Bay ! Go Yanks !

Hey, is it too early to hang my Yankee flag outside my house ?! Don't want to jinx them .....

2007-08-12 14:31:15
416.   Mattpat11
414 Probably. He's one of their announcers.
2007-08-12 14:31:54
417.   OldYanksFan
Ah... highlights of all the Sox bad plays and botched opportunities. Of course, there is the token Manny getting thrown out at 3rd on wild pitch that bounced off the catcher in FRONT of him, and Manny thought it was by him. What fun.

Also.. 1st and 3rd with no out. A shot back to the pitcher who gets a DP and the run does NOT score. Poetry in motion.

2007-08-12 14:33:18
418.   OldYanksFan
414 Yes, he's a regular.
2007-08-12 14:33:27
419.   weeping for brunnhilde
413 God knows it is, God knows it is.

I can fucking taste it too; I'd be lying if I said I wasn't salivating.

But four games is still four games.

More baseball tomorrow.

What's the schedule? We go to Fenway first, right? When is that?

2007-08-12 14:34:02
420.   joe in boston
417 we are all seeing the trips and falls of the Red Sox. The lack of chemistry, the mental errors, the bullpen is NOT perfect, Manny/Ortiz having down years, JD/Lugo - the wrong guys to sign ... hopefully it will continue ....
2007-08-12 14:36:16
421.   weeping for brunnhilde
Btw, I've not seen too many games to intensively lately, but I'm wondering about Robby.

How's he been hitting in pressure situations?

He often gets really jumpy with the bases loaded and such, and kind of lurches at the ball more than he normally would.

Does he look more comfortable in those spots, or is that still his final frontier?

They were talking about him as a future number three hitter on the broadcast, and based on his stroke, I agree, but only of course provided he's better in big spots.

2007-08-12 14:36:28
422.   Mattpat11
419 They come here first.
2007-08-12 14:38:12
423.   Mattpat11
I've got who killed tangerine playing
2007-08-12 14:38:34
424.   weeping for brunnhilde
417 Oh, I know. Manny being Manny.

That made my heart flutter a little.

2007-08-12 14:39:07
425.   Maniakes
410 , second, I think. The 1914 Giants had a 15-game lead over the Boston Braves on July 4, and ended up 10 games behind the Braves.
2007-08-12 14:40:17
426.   weeping for brunnhilde
422 Ah, thanks.
2007-08-12 14:47:02
427.   yankz
weeping- H-fucking-a indeed!

I couldn't watch the ninth, but you guys make it seem like Mo pitched himself into a jam before remembering he's Mo. Just toying with these bitches, I bet.

2007-08-12 14:53:57
428.   monkeypants
427 Naw, he was getting smacked hard all over the park before he settled down and got a couple of big Ks.
2007-08-12 14:55:56
429.   weeping for brunnhilde
427 He was helped out too by that questionable strike call on what I really
thought was a check swing.
2007-08-12 14:56:32
430.   Mattpat11
And when you think its all over, its not over...

Danger remains...

2007-08-12 14:57:09
431.   Mattpat11
429 I consider it a makeup call for the Petttte calls.
2007-08-12 14:57:27
432.   Mattpat11
427 He looked pretty bad.
2007-08-12 15:00:31
433.   yankz
Win the remaining series vs. Boston and we only have two games to make up the rest of the way.
2007-08-12 15:15:24
434.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
433 Screw that. SWEEP them and WE'RE 2 games UP!
2007-08-12 15:25:00
435.   BklynBmr
434 I like your style...

415 A comment from the Boston Globe's Sox forum: "This team is dead in the water. The season is over. Congrats to the Yankees on another division title and another season-ending choke to mock us with. Please please please Red Sox fold 100%. I don't want to watch this gawd-awful team limp into a wildcard spot just to lose in the first round."


I wouldn't go that far just yet, but my how quickly things have changed...

2007-08-12 15:40:17
436.   joe in boston
435 I'm looking forward to reading Boston Dirt Dogs and both NY and Boston papers tomorrow. I hope they really fold and quit like last year. Remember when Manny sat down ?
2007-08-12 15:41:13
437.   yankz
436 In left field?
2007-08-12 15:43:42
438.   joe in boston
Nah, remember when he sat out with that "injury"
2007-08-12 15:49:42
439.   yankz
438 Oh yeah, though I can totally see 437 happening. Just Manny being a tool.
2007-08-12 15:50:34
440.   bartap74
437 Thanks for the laugh. I totally LOL'd (=
2007-08-12 15:56:36
441.   yankz
440 No problem!

Yanks "seriously" considering Kennedy, though the credibility of this site is questionable at best:

SG at RLYW convinced me it's a bad idea.

2007-08-12 15:57:51
442.   JeremyM
Say, do you think it was a mistake for Matt Damon to celebrate winning the division and the Series back in May?

4 games is still a long road to travel, but just the fact that the gap has closed to 4 at this point is nice, to say the least.

2007-08-12 16:01:25
443.   yankz
Here's the Post, I guess it's somewhat more credible:
2007-08-12 16:10:42
444.   JL25and3
443 There's a source that's actually less credible than the Post?

They just cut-and-pasted from King's column, anyway.

Which still says that Kennedy might be promoted if Karstens had to pitch this weekend, which he didn't.

2007-08-12 16:15:27
445.   yankz
Yeah, I just read on a different site that Gammons said IK was getting the call, so I google news searched and posted the two most recent articles.
2007-08-12 16:15:42
446.   yankz
I should say, I read a comment on a different site.
2007-08-12 16:23:44
447.   rsmith51
441 I like SG, but I believe he said that he would have traded Melky for Gagne. I couldn't tell if he was kidding or serious.

I think Gagne would be considered a difference maker in the playoffs, but the Yanks need Melky to get to the playoffs.

I really like how this team is built. Still a little more tweaking to the bullpen and I don't want to hear Minky's name on the roster this year, but other than that it is looking good.

2007-08-12 16:24:45
448.   OldYanksFan
The Good:
General manager Brian Cashman refused to part with him for Eric Gagne at the trading deadline even though the Rangers told Cashman Gagne was going to the Red Sox if they couldn't get Kennedy plus something else.

The Bad:
Just because the Padres claimed Kei Igawa on waivers and have until Tuesday to make a deal with the Yankees doesn't mean the Yankees are going to give up on their $46 million investment.

According to several people with knowledge of the Yankees' thinking, unless the Padres overwhelm them with prospects, Igawa isn't going to be dealt before Tuesday. The Padres are the only team he can be dealt to since they claimed him. (Of course, this could be Brian 'PokerKing' Cashman talking)

and the Ugly:
The Baaawston Red Sox

2007-08-12 16:31:30
449.   OldYanksFan
447 "I still think the Yankees should have listened to Steve Phillips and traded Melky "Fourth OF" Cabrera for Eric Gagne. Gagne's 16.20 ERA since being traded would have really helped the Yanks. That's almost Farnsworth-good."

Don't know about you, but that sounds a little like sarcasm to me.

As it turns out, Gagme's ERA really HAS helped the Yankees

2007-08-12 16:33:40
450.   Mattpat11
441 Torre is saying that for some unknown reason, its going to be Karstens. Because 24 baserunners in 11 IP is encouraging.
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2007-08-12 16:38:04
451.   yankz
447 I'm pretty sure he was kidding.

Also, his reasoning had nothing to do with skills, but rather time clocks. It might not be the best idea for Joba, Phil, and IK to hit arb and FA at the same time.

2007-08-12 16:40:41
452.   SG in ATL
447 Yes, I was kidding about that. I was mocking Steve Phillips.

Regarding Kennedy, my thought was that it will only be for one start, and you'd be starting his service clock towards arbitration and free agency at the same time you've already started Hughes's and Chamberlain's. Granted, money's not a major issue for the Yankees, but why worry about having to sign all three long term at the exact same time for no reason.

If the Yankees needed a fifth starter for the rest of the year and Kennedy was the best option, go for it. But to take one spot start then get shipped back down makes little sense to me.

2007-08-12 18:02:51
453.   RIYank
I had company come over, and although I left the game on the radio (under the pretext that my 14 year old was listening to it), I couldn't very well refresh or comment at Banter. But I was with you in spirit, for sure. Heart in throat as Mo stood at the rim of the canyon, huge relief and joy when he pushed the Indians off the edge instead, and then I was practically giggling at the Sox game (I had my son switch stations). Seconds after the Millar homer my brother phoned to revel.

Awesome. What a week! What a month!

Like 415 I am really looking forward to listening to sports talk radio tomorrow. It's going to be full panic mode in New England.

Eric Gagne ROCKS!!!

2007-08-12 18:56:26
454.   weeping for brunnhilde
453 Nice, RI. :)

Indeed, What a week. What a month. Indeed.

2007-08-12 18:57:35
455.   weeping for brunnhilde
14 Oh, and way to use the kid as a decoy. I love it.

I'm putting that one in my back pocket for a rainy day.


2007-08-12 19:46:49
456.   monkeypants
452 et al.

Who would be a better option for a single spot start on Tuesday, Karstens or Igawa?

2007-08-12 19:55:09
457.   vockins
Did anyone in the media ask Joba Chamberlain if Friday's performance was partially motivated by the name of the team he was pitching to?
2007-08-12 20:07:46
458.   yankz
457 That's hilarious. Check out nomaas for the visual.

456 Karstens, he's pitched well before (last year).

2007-08-12 21:42:36
459.   weeping for brunnhilde
456 I don't think I've seen Karstens pitch, except maybe in inning recently, but as for Igawa, despite allowing five or six over four or five, he also strikes out six or seven along the way, so he's someone you might role the dice with.

He could give you a five-inning, four-run performance if he has a good day, and that could easily be enough to win the way the sticks are going.

I like Igawa because at least I know what I'm getting out of him. In all seriousness, he actually seems pretty consistently mediocre to sub-mediocre; he probably won't get knocked out in the first or second.

2007-08-12 22:06:05
460.   yankz
Pete says it's Karstens.
2007-08-13 03:57:56
461.   nemecizer
After that weekend I feel warm and fuzzy this morning, and even don't really mind going to work.

The Yankees are now a full game ahead of the Red Sox in BP Adjusted Standings.

2007-08-15 17:07:04
462.   nyy jim
#405 I agree

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