Baseball Toaster was unplugged on February 4, 2009.
We all know that George Steinbrenner isn't the man he used to be. For several years now, the press has hinted at this fact as Steinbrenner has receeded from the public eye. He rarely speaks directly to the media. There have been whispers that the Boss is sick, that he's got dementia, but nobody has come right out and said as much, which is more than a little curious considering just how public a figure Steinbrenner has been. But now Franz Lidz, formerly of Sports Illustrated, drops the bomb.
Here is the story. Discuss.
Sad, just sad. And watching 'Bronx is Burning' only serves as a reminder of what once was.
Hang in there George - maybe the boys can win just one more ring for ya while you're still semi-aware of it.
(disclaimer: I have him in a very informal, between-friends "dead pool" this year, but its still a bummer to read of his decline)
On the other hand, I'm embarrassed with myself for typing that first sentence. The man is 77 years old, and huge public figure or not, everyone deserves to spend their last years however they wish. If George didn't want the word out, maybe we should simply acknowledge how sad it is, and move along. Like Alex alluded to in his title, its not like his condition is a real surprise.
God Bless you, George Steinbrenner. I hope you are not suffering, and that the Yanks win you one more ring.
I do have some standards ...
George's entire life will make some darn good biopic some day ...
Can you imagine the amount of research that would have to go into a biography of George Steinbrenner? The man contradicted himself so many times, you'd have a hard time knowing what he really thought, how he really felt, reviewing source material. And that's before you got into talking to the people who were around him!
And I hate the Yankees.
And I hate the Yankees.
It was almost like they were going out of their way to bring him up and make people think nothing was wrong.
I also understand the idea of giving an old man his peace, leaving him alone, BUT...
I have to say, on some level this is the chicken's coming home to roost. Steinbrenner was a holy prick for years and years and if he miraculously became well now, he'd be a holy prick again. Just because he's old and sick doesn't change the fact that he was an incorrigible jerk.
I don't disagree that George is reaping what he sowed, but this is something unavoidable that has nothing to do with baseball, and two wrongs don't make a right.
George fed the monster that is the press that is hounding him now, and he'll have to deal with it until someone physically pulls the plug.
the one aspect of this story that rubs me the wrong way is that it seems as though the guy is defenseless at this point. it was one thing when the cat still had its claws, but now this kind of thing seems to be in poor taste. to me.
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27 Alex, its easy to forgive George, but hard to forget, both the awful stuff and the good stuff. That he seemed to turn towards the good (mostly) at the end is what, I think, brings on my own feelings of goodwill towards him.
I don't doubt he'd do whatever it took to win more championships, however.
I was taught that if a man has nothing else, he had his word, and I can understand why Yogi stayed away all those years.
I don't know if I could ever truly appreciate him. Because in order to do that, you have to know more about him. It's a bit difficult, because he is so intertwined with the Yankees.
I am saddened by his current condition, and it's a bit tough seeing him like this because of the power he once had. It makes me a bit uneasy actually. Anytime you see the mortality of someone who was larger than life, it has to be unsettling.
wsporter, if you're out there, take a look at the "About Us" section of that site.
I somewhat dislike Steinbrenner, and I dislike the press and the manner in which we have come to find out about his present state, but as I have no control over either of them, I worry not. I appreciate and respect both for what they are capable of doing. Funny, I had a lot more to say about it, but everyone's making such good points that I can't add anything valuable at the moment.
I also must admit that I find Alex' "what comes around" argument in 16 very disappointing. George may have been a tyrant, but he also had an under publicized generous side. Also, most of the times he picked a fight, it was with a big shot (e.g., Martin, Jackson, Winfield, etc.), or an employee he was paying very well.
If someone wants to stick it to George, they should have done it then. Waiting until his health is in severe decay is cowardice at best.
I have a feeling that when Roger Clemens talked to G.S. this year, the Boss let him in on the worst kept secret. It's pure speculation on my part, but I have a feeling George revealed a serious illness (Alzheimer's maybe) and perhaps the chance that he might not last another season. If that's true, this year takes on a lot more urgency. I would love to see the Yankees win one more for the Boss, because like him or not, he has been one of the most influential people in Yankee history, and has been as responsible for the team's on and off field success as anyone...more than Jeter, Torre, and anyone else you can name. When George passes, it will truly be the end of an era.
Here's a couple of noteworthy ones:
- http://tinyurl.com/234z74 (Hey, bring back Yankees franks!)
- http://tinyurl.com/27sfjv (Less filling, George!)
- http://tinyurl.com/2x45de (this one makes me laugh the hardest, although I don't think it was actually George's voice.)
Though I agree with Alex that going to his house unannounced is not something I would have felt comfortable doing, I do think that until Steinbrenner officially steps down, exploring his true condition is fair game. That doesn't mean, of course, that it's not extremely sad... Steinbrenner may have been a jerk -- and a criminal, for that matter, albeit thoroughly white collar -- but he doesn't deserve to go out like that.
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