Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
What Makes the Hottentots so Hot? (Sweep Dreams)
2007-08-02 09:32
by Alex Belth
Note: The Bronx Banter blog has moved to

Yo, it is absolutely scorching out there today. It's Do the Right Thing hot; Dog Day Afternoon hot. The old man, Rocket Clemens goes against Jon Garland this afternoon as the Yanks look for the sweep. It's beautiful that the Bombers have already won the series, but that ain't enough, right? More, more, more.

Let's Go Yan-Kees.

Hey and just FYI, I received an e-mail this morning from a reader who was at last night's game with her daughter who just turned seven. It was the little girl's first game and apparently the YES cameras showed her when Alex Rodriguez came to bat in the third inning. However, the woman didn't tape the game and would just love to find someone who did. If anyone has the game on tape, drop Lorraine a line at: Thanks, y'all.

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2007-08-02 09:48:06
1.   RIYank
I'll be a little disappointed if we don't score seven runs today. But I'll be satisfied with the W.

Go get'em, Wilson!

2007-08-02 09:49:02
2.   Alex Belth
As Al D said, "Just Win, Baby."
2007-08-02 09:54:59
3.   cult of basebaal
guess that proves arod isn't a "true yankee" after all ... babe ruth hit a homerun for a dying kid ... arod can't even hit a homerun for a birthday girl ...
2007-08-02 09:56:10
4.   Shaun P
1 I'll be a little disappointed if they don't hit at least 3 home runs today. But it'd be nice to break out the broom-broom sticks. Been a while.
2007-08-02 10:01:01
5.   RIYank
4 Hm, no Shelley, so I dunno. Maybe if our Weak Sister can pull a little home run weight today we'll have a shot at three.
2007-08-02 10:08:48
6.   unmoderated
hey, this is as good time as any to ask -

Let me see if I can phrase this right...
how many of you don't have My9 on your cable package, but get the feed anyway for the yankee game?

our local cable co gives us the My9 feed on the days the games are on that channel, but we get a uncut feed; during commercial time, the camera feed stays on (usually a shot of the field, or a sneak peek at the archive footage they are about show). Even better, the MICS stay on. the stuff that's been coming out of those mouths has been hilarious.

my question is - does anyone else get this?

2007-08-02 10:11:57
7.   NJYankee41
6 No, but let us know if they say anything good.
2007-08-02 10:13:35
8.   unmoderated
7 All I can say is that paulie hates my9 games, michael kay eats a lot, and kenny singleton likes to sing classic 90s R&B cheese.
2007-08-02 10:13:45
9.   RIYank
Hooray for Mr. Splitty!
2007-08-02 10:14:06
10.   Shaun P
6 My parents (who live in Upstate) don't get My9, but they get the My9 feed on a random channel. I'll ask my dad if it happens to him too.
2007-08-02 10:16:29
11.   monkeypants
Betemit playing for Jeter is eerily good news. Unless he commits a bunch of gafs, that means Torre (for now) finally trusts someone besides Cairo to play back up SS. I am cautiously optimistic that Cairo's days are numbered.
2007-08-02 10:16:48
12.   Javi Javi
8 That has to be recorded and posted on you tube.
2007-08-02 10:19:17
13.   Shaun P
8 OK, Kay eating a lot doesn't surprise me (I would too), but I don't get O'Neill - does he miss the YES polo? And what exactly do you mean by 'classic 90s R&B cheese'?
2007-08-02 10:19:35
14.   RIYank
Attaboy. Make Garland sweat.
2007-08-02 10:19:44
15.   unmoderated
12 heh... i'm afraid they will take it away... but i will try and record the next one.



2007-08-02 10:21:07
16.   unmoderated
'this is how we do it'


next time, buddy.

2007-08-02 10:21:54
17.   tommyl
16 What happened?
2007-08-02 10:22:31
18.   OldYanksFan
I had a dental appt. today at 1 PM.
I don't get Yankee radio here and have no laptop.
I want to see a sweep, but I can't stand the idea of missing ARod's #500.
I called my Dentist. I lied. I cancelled.
Am I wrong?
2007-08-02 10:22:56
19.   RIYank
Shoot. We have to work Garland a little more than this. Two long innings to make him wilt.

Either that or three dingers.

2007-08-02 10:23:43
20.   RIYank
17 A-Rod grounded out, second pitch.

Now Konerko leads off with a single.

2007-08-02 10:24:50
21.   RIYank
Pierz with another single.

Time for Rocket to work a little.

2007-08-02 10:25:04
22.   Alex Belth
18, no you are not wrong. Not a bad pitch that A Rod hit. Fastball. Drat.
2007-08-02 10:25:08
23.   Shaun P
18 No. Only two other people in MLB history have ever hit their 500th homers as Yanks.

Which reminds me - I need to get the TiVo going.

2007-08-02 10:25:57
24.   unmoderated
eek. looks like the ball is carrying today.
2007-08-02 10:26:16
25.   RIYank
Uh oh.
Crushed to the wall. Melky almost nails Konerko at home, but Dye gets the RBI, and 2nd and 3rd nobody out.
2007-08-02 10:27:24
26.   RIYank
Another rbi, infield hit (off Phillips' glove).

(Is there anybody here who needs this play-by-play?)

2007-08-02 10:27:27
27.   nick
Betemit at short, wow--here's hoping he has a good day--let's go Alex, Yanks....
2007-08-02 10:27:55
28.   williamnyy23
Damn...this feels like one of the games the Yankees are going to lose that will really gnaw at me.

For some strange reason, the Yankees seem to really struggle in these Thursday day games and then carry that over to Friday night. Maybe the Yankees should rething these matinees.

2007-08-02 10:29:16
29.   RIYank

Another single, another rbi, nobody out, three in.

2007-08-02 10:29:59
30.   unmoderated
28 i used to think it was because of the 'house money' philosophy torre talks about, but i think everyone knows they need all these games.

and man, clemens is up in the zone. i thought he would love this hot weather.

2007-08-02 10:30:12
31.   NJYankee41
Is Clemens flat? Or are they making good contact?
2007-08-02 10:30:13
32.   Yankees Brasil
damn Roger, the White Sox can´t hit...
2007-08-02 10:30:20
33.   williamnyy23
Paging Jeff Karstens...losing a game to the White Sox would really suck. This team just can't get that sweep.
2007-08-02 10:30:49
34.   Yankees Brasil
31 Everything up in the zone
2007-08-02 10:31:30
35.   Shaun P
Umm, Rocket? Rocket? ROCKET!


(Ignoring that anything that's hit is considered a strike).

Sorry, he was starting to worry me a little bit.

2007-08-02 10:31:46
36.   unmoderated
2007-08-02 10:31:50
37.   RIYank
Oh, man.
Double-play ball, but Robbie bobbles it a little, everyone safe.
2007-08-02 10:32:15
38.   Shaun P
2007-08-02 10:32:51
39.   RIYank
35 I don't think that's the problem. It's not like he's walking guys!
2007-08-02 10:33:26
40.   RIYank
Well, bases loaded, two outs for Thome.
I won't give any more updates unless someone asks.
2007-08-02 10:33:27
41.   unmoderated
very nice grab by the rocket to get the out at home. tough hop.
2007-08-02 10:34:42
42.   Shaun P
40 I am just on Gameday so I very much appreciate them.

35 No, but I don't like the idea of Roger being out of the zone, and batters not swinging at it. If he's getting by more on guile than speed, he needs to actually fool them.

2007-08-02 10:34:43
43.   cult of basebaal
isn't that like robbie's 1st error in 50+ games? or did that streak end earlier?
2007-08-02 10:34:47
44.   OldYanksFan
Anyone ever see Murcer play CF? He looked kinda funny at times, but did somethink very smart. On shots over his head or deep in the gap, he just ran like hell, as fast as he could to where the ball was going. He did not 'drift back' or try to time the catch, he just ran like hell. Often he got there early, camped, waited, and made the catch.

That ball carried and Melky may have misjudged it. But he did not appear to run full speed, but rather try and 'time' the catch. Since it carried, it was over his head.

I think someone needs to work with him on that. It's not the first time that has happened.

Meanwhile, I'm being punished by the Dental Gods. Instant Karma. I hope I haven't jinxed this game.

2007-08-02 10:34:50
45.   JohnnyC
30 it's still house money...we have an aversion to sweeping series, remember? Why this team comes out flat time and time again in these situations is anybody's guess. there's been a fairly big turnover in players over the past 3 or 4 years so you can't say it's the same culprits...
2007-08-02 10:35:06
46.   rbj
Yipes, forgot that today was a 1 pm game. C'mon Roger, settle down.
2007-08-02 10:35:15
47.   cult of basebaal
maybe we should move rocket to the bully ... and call up joba to start ...
2007-08-02 10:35:17
48.   unmoderated
well, here's hoping this long inning has iced garland.
2007-08-02 10:35:40
49.   Shaun P
42 "fool them. And out of zone without speed = poor control = uh-oh (think Moose when he's off)."

Forgot the last part.

2007-08-02 10:35:43
50.   williamnyy23
Awful job by Clemens.
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2007-08-02 10:36:25
51.   unmoderated
mmm ice...
2007-08-02 10:36:48
52.   cult of basebaal
well ... at least at this rate, i'll get some work done today ...
2007-08-02 10:37:25
53.   cult of basebaal
dear god, please tell me somebody's up in the pen ...
2007-08-02 10:37:48
54.   Mike T
How is it possible to go from effective (the first inning) to completely ineffective (this inning)? Anyone?
2007-08-02 10:38:02
55.   unmoderated
2007-08-02 10:38:02
56.   williamnyy23
The White Sox aren't good enough to score 6 runs in 1+ innings...Clemens really didn't show up with much this afternoon.
2007-08-02 10:38:04
57.   pistolpete
Jesus, I forgot it was 1pm start too. Imagine my horror when I just checked the score.

CRIPES. Karstens is gonna get some work today, I assume.

2007-08-02 10:38:07
58.   RIYank
Shaun, this is a good game to not watch. Bad to worse for Rocket. It's now an 8-run inning for Chicago!

A-Rod is going to have to hit two grand slams today.

2007-08-02 10:38:25
59.   JohnnyC
Nice $900,000's worth of a start by Rocket. It's a good thing we were able to secure his veteran BFOG for these important games down the stretch.
2007-08-02 10:38:44
60.   Yankees Brasil
Roger really doesn´t like the high temperatures..
2007-08-02 10:38:49
61.   RIYank
I think Myers is up, actually. What exactly is Karstens' job?
2007-08-02 10:38:53
62.   unmoderated
meyers and steve o up in the pen.
2007-08-02 10:39:00
63.   OldYanksFan
54 5 unearned run and RCNB.
2007-08-02 10:39:13
64.   pistolpete


2007-08-02 10:39:32
65.   cult of basebaal
sweet fancy jesus on a saltine cracker, joe! GET HIM OUT OF THERE!!!
2007-08-02 10:40:00
66.   Yankees Brasil
Beyond pathetic..
2007-08-02 10:40:35
67.   unmoderated
2007-08-02 10:41:30
68.   JohnnyC
It's unfortunate that Cano bobbled the potential DP ball but he'd already given up 5 straight hard-hit basehits. Worst start by a Yankees pitcher this season. We're better off starting Chase Wright.
2007-08-02 10:41:39
69.   williamnyy23
What in the world is Torre waiting for...shouldn't it have been obvious a lot earlier that Clemens didn't have it? What was gained by completely tanking the game in the second game?
2007-08-02 10:41:42
70.   Mike T
Is this the worst outing of Roger's career? It has to be right up there.
2007-08-02 10:41:44
71.   Shaun P
45 Yanks have 4 sweeps this year - Cleveland (April 17-19), Texas (May 1-3), Pirates (June 6-8), and D'backs (June 10-12). I'm guessing the last game vs Pittsburgh was a day game, it was a Sunday. I know the last game vs Cleveland was a Thursday afternoon game, because I remember 'watching' it with all you folks. A-Rod did something, I think. ;)

61 62 Myers again?!?!?!

2007-08-02 10:41:59
72.   rconn23
Wow, just inexcusable on all fronts. We can't just give in so easily on games.

Clemens is beyond awful and Torre should have hooked Clemens when he lost Thome on an 0-2 count. Dreadful. Just NO EXCUSE!!!

2007-08-02 10:42:00
73.   cult of basebaal
wow ... just wow ... talk about killing all the postive momentum ...

and yet another great job managing the pitching staff by joey joe joe

2007-08-02 10:42:01
74.   OldYanksFan
Defense. If Melky doesn't misplay that ball and Cano is sober, ZERO runs score.
2007-08-02 10:42:19
75.   pistolpete
What exactly is Torre waiting for? Clemens clearly can't get anyone out anymore.
2007-08-02 10:42:36
76.   RIYank
Where have you gone
Kei Igawa
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you...
2007-08-02 10:43:35
77.   RIYank
Oh, yeah, definitely Torre's fault, no doubt about it.
2007-08-02 10:43:47
78.   Mike T
A really shitty team has hung an 8 spot on us in the 2nd inning. Unreal.
2007-08-02 10:44:11
79.   ny2ca2dc
74 It wouldn't matter, rocket was giving up hard hit balls, couldn't locate at all. good god.
2007-08-02 10:44:18
80.   pistolpete
I guarantee Myers makes it 10-0 before this inning is over.
2007-08-02 10:44:19
81.   cult of basebaal
he's got 2! 2!!! "longmen" in the pen ... just sitting there on their asses collecting major league pay ... we could actually afford to pull an ineffective starter in the 2nd inning and feel good about not overtaxing the pen ... but no ... way to lock the barn door after the horse has bolted, headless, screaming and on fire ... jesus
2007-08-02 10:45:46
82.   OldYanksFan
72 In fairness, the pitch to Thome was good. Thome did a great job just getting the bat on the ball, no less getting a hit.

Roger has been bad, but Cano, and to some part Melky, put this game out of reach.

Does anyone else think Melky's ball was catchable?

2007-08-02 10:46:36
83.   Shaun P
65 69 There must be a SP Wheel of Guts too. Dear Lord.

BTW - if anyone doubts that Joe doesn't overuse the guys in his "circle of trust": Mike Myers is at 39 innings this year. He's on pace to exceed 50 IP easily. He hasn't done that in ten years - since he was on the Tigers in 1997.

Shoot, with an inning today he'll have met or exceeded his IP total of every other year of this century except 2004 - and that was just 42.7, which he might surpass by next week.

2007-08-02 10:46:37
84.   RIYank
Goddam Torre. Didn't he know Myers would walk the first batter? What's the point of putting in a pitcher just to walk someone?
2007-08-02 10:46:44
85.   unmoderated
...and meyers is out...
2007-08-02 10:47:51
86.   RIYank
Heeeere's Jeff!
2007-08-02 10:47:52
87.   unmoderated
so this is how the royals must have felt.
2007-08-02 10:48:00
88.   cult of basebaal
honestly, i actually don't mind myers being in here ... in some small way, i hope it shows that torre learned from the mistake he made way back in 04, when you've gotta get guys ready in a hurry, you're better off using a reliever, even if it's still really early in the game, rather than bring a starter in before their comfortably ready ...
2007-08-02 10:48:08
89.   Jersey
LMAO. This is almost comical. The so-called LOOGY comes in in the 2nd inning, walks a guy, and NOW we get the long man.
2007-08-02 10:48:08
90.   ny2ca2dc
ya, saw that walk coming. maybe meyers was in to give jeff some more time to warm up
2007-08-02 10:48:44
91.   Shaun P
I am speechless.
2007-08-02 10:48:44
92.   RIYank
Zen question of the day:
Is it possible in a House Money game to lose by so much that the House actually starts getting your money again?
2007-08-02 10:49:22
93.   nyy jim
We certainly can use some of those 13 homers we hit in the last two games.
2007-08-02 10:49:37
94.   pistolpete
At least I'm only seeing the box score. I would probably be throwing things around my house if I was viewing this live..
2007-08-02 10:49:45
95.   RIYank
Karstens very efficient today. (Out on the first pitch, Shaun.)
2007-08-02 10:50:06
96.   ny2ca2dc
93 so goes this season...
2007-08-02 10:50:14
97.   cult of basebaal
83 actually, even though it's a jump for myers, i just can't call 50 innings in a year "overuse" ... quite frankly, given his results, joe's been using mikey to decent effect ...

dear god, it's over

2007-08-02 10:50:57
98.   Shaun P
Not that any of us wants to hear this, but Sox have the bases loaded in the bottom of the 2nd, 2 out but Pedroia up, heart of the order to follow.

Well done, Karstens.

2007-08-02 10:51:54
99.   RIYank
Silver Linings Department:

5. Jeter doesn't have to play in this one.

4. Get to see Karstens while there's still plenty of light.

3. No pressure for A-Rod's 500th.

2. Can only lose once today.

1. If we win, WHAT A COMEBACK!

2007-08-02 10:52:15
100.   cult of basebaal
this is all arod's fault for choking on the little girl's birthday homer yesterday ...
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2007-08-02 10:52:25
101.   OldYanksFan
79 3 questions. Not to excuse Roger but:
1) How many runs score if Cano gets 1 out?
2) How many runs score if Cano gets a DP?
3) How many runs score if Melky catches his ball and Cano makes his play?

Again, not to excuse Roger but....

2007-08-02 10:52:42
102.   Shaun P
97 No, but how many times has he gone to Myers for multiple innings in a blowout, instead of actually using one of the alledged "long men" in the pen?

95 Thanks, RIYank! I'm home, but working (in theory at least), and there's no TV in my office. So I really appreciate the updates.

2007-08-02 10:53:05
103.   pistolpete
A-Rod will most assuredly hit his 500th at some point today. Most likely a 3-run job sometime around the 6th or 7th to make it 13-4 Chicago.
2007-08-02 10:53:17
104.   Alex Belth
Okay, biggest comeback of the year...let's go boys, one, two at a time now.
2007-08-02 10:53:27
105.   cult of basebaal
i will say this, if we do make the comeback, there's no, i say, NO way ozzie's head doesn't explode ...
2007-08-02 10:53:47
106.   Shaun P
101 All true, but my understanding is that Rocket looked pretty bad even without the defense miscues behind him.

Pedroia struck out, scoreless going into the 3rd.

2007-08-02 10:54:39
107.   unmoderated
comeback time.
2007-08-02 10:54:50
108.   Shaun P
105 And there's no way this team misses the playoffs.

104 Matsui is trying to get it going!

2007-08-02 10:54:54
109.   cult of basebaal
excellent job leatherface, make the bastard work ... let's get into the sweet underbelly of their relief corp early ...

mmmm ... sweet underbelly!

2007-08-02 10:55:02
110.   RIYank
Matsui gets a hit.

Okay, I figure our chances go from microscopic to miniscule if we can get Garland out of the game. Work 'em, boys!

2007-08-02 10:55:16
111.   unmoderated
i'll make a bet we see jeter pinch hitting in the 8th representing the tying run.
2007-08-02 10:55:22
112.   3rd gen yankee fan
I just turned on the game. OH MY GOD, WHAT HAPPENED!
2007-08-02 10:55:33
113.   standuptriple
Great. So now we have to rely on TEX and BAL to keep ground.
2007-08-02 10:55:55
114.   RIYank
109 110 Huh. You said the same thing, but in a rather more colorful way.
2007-08-02 10:56:10
115.   OldYanksFan
No score in the Sox game, top of the 3rd.
Cleveland with a 2-0 lead in the 6th.
2007-08-02 10:56:30
116.   RIYank
Jorgie just misses a double, foul.
2007-08-02 10:57:25
117.   unmoderated
here we go!
2007-08-02 10:57:40
118.   RIYank
Jorgie doubles anyway! Matsui stops at third.

Wow, that Cano error is looking big.

2007-08-02 10:57:59
119.   Start Spreading the News
I am at the stadium and it is so hot that I think I am going to melt! And that was before the eight runs scored.

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue... :)

2007-08-02 10:58:05
120.   rbj
105 I'd pay cash money to see that.
2007-08-02 10:58:10
121.   ny2ca2dc
101 tons in the next inning. i get your point and all, but rocket had shit.
2007-08-02 10:58:17
122.   cult of basebaal
now robbie, DON'T try and atone for all 8 runs at once ... hit your pitch!
2007-08-02 10:58:22
123.   RIYank
Okay, Rob, get on base and we'll forgive your fielding trespasses.
2007-08-02 10:58:45
124.   Alex Belth
the comeback begins...
2007-08-02 10:59:08
125.   unmoderated
2007-08-02 10:59:18
126.   RIYank
Cano singles! Jorgie chugs to third, Matsui scores.

Wow. It will suck if we come up two runs short today.

2007-08-02 10:59:31
127.   standuptriple
I'd like to see Betemit get a little love in his first start in The Stadium. A couple RBI would do nicely.
2007-08-02 10:59:45
128.   unmoderated
PS - i usually dont chat during the games, i hope it wasnt my fault clemens stunk today.
2007-08-02 10:59:50
129.   RIYank
Check it out, our lefties are ripping Garland. Interesting.
2007-08-02 10:59:57
130.   pistolpete
Wow, we actually ARE getting some runs back.
2007-08-02 11:00:08
131.   cult of basebaal
here we come ... c'mon willy!
2007-08-02 11:00:20
132.   ny2ca2dc
chip away boys, chip away. Sox BP is devastated from the previous 2 days (and that retarded ejection last night), so chip away boys, chip away.
2007-08-02 11:00:25
133.   SF Yanks
99 I like it.
2007-08-02 11:00:34
134.   Shaun P
Welcome to NY, Betemit. This is the time to cement your status (and your BFOG+) by getting a hit. A double would do nicely, though a home run would rock.
2007-08-02 11:00:55
135.   RIYank
128 No, it's definitely Torre's fault today.


2007-08-02 11:01:12
136.   cult of basebaal
c'mon betamax!
2007-08-02 11:01:28
137.   RIYank
Betemit hits it out!!!!
Join the party, WILSON!
2007-08-02 11:01:28
138.   unmoderated
2007-08-02 11:01:58
139.   standuptriple
Or even a little OBP boost would be helpful WB.
2007-08-02 11:02:05
140.   cult of basebaal
2007-08-02 11:02:08
141.   RIYank

Curtain call for Betemit!

2007-08-02 11:02:15
142.   pistolpete
2007-08-02 11:02:18
143.   Shaun P
137 HA!!! (PS - Told you it would rock. 135)

Poor A-Rod!

2007-08-02 11:02:20
144.   unmoderated
wild, man.
2007-08-02 11:02:24
145.   nyy jim
This is going to be one of those crazy games.
2007-08-02 11:02:25
146.   ny2ca2dc
2007-08-02 11:02:31
147.   standuptriple
2007-08-02 11:02:47
148.   seamus
now, that deal certainly looks good today!
2007-08-02 11:03:01
149.   3rd gen yankee fan
Well good.
2007-08-02 11:03:37
150.   williamnyy23
Sterling: "You can bet on Betemit".

That's why, while it isn't Torre's fault, he doesn't help things buy sitting by as Clemens implodes.

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2007-08-02 11:03:42
151.   RIYank
Andy with a lucky bloop!

Destiny, baby.

2007-08-02 11:03:43
152.   Jon Weisman
You folks got a nice taste of why I'll miss Betemit.
2007-08-02 11:03:45
153.   unmoderated
135 ok, i understand now. i gotta leave when we pitch, and return when we hit.
2007-08-02 11:03:48
154.   OldYanksFan
True Story:
It's Saturday. I am 15. Dad's at work for the day and Mom has an a little afternoon date with the girls.
I decide to rifle my parenst bedroom.
Paydirt. In Dad's shoe closet I find a paperback porn book.
As I head to my room to celebrate, I spy my parent clean, made, king size bed.
Saturday, home alone, too good to pass up.
A few minutes later, as I am about to enter Nirvana, the is a twist, a slam, and there's Mom standing in the bedroom door.
It seems Mom forgot something and drove all the way back to get it.

Now what does this have to do with cancelling my Dental Appt and the current state of this game?

2007-08-02 11:04:04
155.   ny2ca2dc
god damnit, in 30 mins i gotta go to the airport. f me. this game is nuts. you have got to be kidding me. we win this, we win it all.
2007-08-02 11:04:34
156.   Shaun P
And Andy keeps the rally going!

OK Damon, what you got Mr. "The Manager didn't tell me I wasn't playing boo-hoo". Show him why you ought to play!

2007-08-02 11:04:51
157.   RIYank
152 No doubt.
Jon, I just left a comment over at your place.
2007-08-02 11:04:52
158.   OldYanksFan
Everyone here understands Jewish guilt, yes?
2007-08-02 11:05:02
159.   Javi Javi
Sterling: "you can bet on betamit"
2007-08-02 11:05:46
160.   pistolpete
152 So how did Proctor look in his debut?
2007-08-02 11:05:49
161.   ny2ca2dc
and by the way, that ought to have brought Betemit's BFOG+ score up by a butt-ton. Say good bye to Cairo, for sure, as long as wilson looks good in the field, later miggy.
2007-08-02 11:06:00
162.   Shaun P
152 Thank you, Jon. You and DT crew will enjoy EDSP too, as long as Grady doesn't pitch his arm off.
2007-08-02 11:06:06
163.   cult of basebaal
frankenstein could have done that johnny ...
2007-08-02 11:06:21
164.   pistolpete
159 Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
2007-08-02 11:06:42
165.   Shaun P
Now see Damon, that's why you didn't play yesterday. Shelley would have hit a home run, dontchaknow?
2007-08-02 11:06:48
166.   RIYank
159 Dude, that was definitely too much information.
2007-08-02 11:07:17
167.   pistolpete
1-0 Boston. Ugh.
2007-08-02 11:07:27
168.   RIYank
Melky lines a single!
Here we go, let's rock the house!
2007-08-02 11:07:33
169.   unmoderated
delivers again.
2007-08-02 11:07:51
170.   SF Yanks
154 Always be sure your parents have left the building before you give up too many runs?
2007-08-02 11:07:53
171.   pistolpete
Keep the line moving, Melk.
2007-08-02 11:08:22
172.   unmoderated
let's go BooBoo!
2007-08-02 11:08:35
173.   OldYanksFan
Hey... a walk to Bobby here would be interesting.
2007-08-02 11:08:40
174.   ny2ca2dc
i'll call it: abreu walks, arod up with bases loaded, hits a salami for #500
2007-08-02 11:09:14
175.   cult of basebaal
calling it ... abreu walks and arod goes granny to tie this baby up!
2007-08-02 11:09:19
176.   unmoderated
can you see it?

abreu walks, loads bases...
arod the tying run...





2007-08-02 11:09:41
177.   unmoderated
2007-08-02 11:09:48
178.   glennrwordman
Abreu BB, AR GS.
2007-08-02 11:09:51
179.   RIYank
173 Uh huh. Tying run at the plate...
2007-08-02 11:10:22
180.   cult of basebaal
aaaarrggh! you people are always 1 step ahead!!!
2007-08-02 11:10:23
181.   OldYanksFan
How can you stand right behind the plate and miss calls by that much! Geez!
2007-08-02 11:10:32
182.   glennrwordman
Gotta be quicker on the trigger here at the Banter!
2007-08-02 11:10:42
183.   RIYank
174 175 You both get credit, if...
2007-08-02 11:10:58
184.   unmoderated
i have an elderly lady customer here at the bookstore, i hope i dont give her a heart attack when i start yelling after arod's GS.
2007-08-02 11:11:16
185.   RIYank
Oh, and 176 too.
2007-08-02 11:11:46
186.   pistolpete
God damn it, Gameday is still on 3-2 Abreu
2007-08-02 11:11:49
187.   unmoderated
180 we were all given the vision.
2007-08-02 11:12:17
188.   OldYanksFan
Man... I'm still at 3-2 on Bobby. Three fouls. Just how far behinbd in MLB.TV?
2007-08-02 11:12:18
189.   RIYank
Ohhhhh yeah. Bobby drills it in the gap.

I'll take a single from Alex!

2007-08-02 11:12:20
190.   unmoderated
still the tying run...~!
2007-08-02 11:12:46
191.   unmoderated
wow, over 40 pitches this inning for garland...
2007-08-02 11:12:47
192.   Bob Timmermann
One more run ties the AL record for the highest scoring second inning ever.
2007-08-02 11:13:16
193.   cult of basebaal
stupid abreu, ruining everything ...
2007-08-02 11:13:31
194.   unmoderated
thanks, bob!
2007-08-02 11:13:49
195.   RIYank
186 He fouled a few off, but he mashed that last one.

Seriously, Alex, a single please.

0-2 to A-Rod...

2007-08-02 11:14:25
196.   Mattpat11
195I'll take a fly ball
2007-08-02 11:14:27
197.   3rd gen yankee fan
C'mon Arod, I gotta go back to work.
2007-08-02 11:14:33
198.   OldYanksFan
WHAT IS IT WITH THIS UMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-08-02 11:14:42
199.   RIYank
192 Wow! Destiny, for sure.

Abreu holds up.

2007-08-02 11:14:48
200.   unmoderated
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2007-08-02 11:14:51
201.   Mattpat11
Then again, the hit is much better.
2007-08-02 11:14:56
202.   standuptriple
You'd think Ozzie might want to avoid the same mistake Joe made. You know, because he just saw it like 15 minutes ago.
2007-08-02 11:14:56
203.   standuptriple
You'd think Ozzie might want to avoid the same mistake Joe made. You know, because he just saw it like 15 minutes ago.
2007-08-02 11:15:21
204.   cult of basebaal
i'll take it!
2007-08-02 11:15:23
205.   3rd gen yankee fan
2007-08-02 11:15:33
206.   pistolpete
HA! At least A-Rod breaks the hitless streak...
2007-08-02 11:15:42
207.   unmoderated
what a crazy game - and we get boone logan again.
2007-08-02 11:15:49
208.   OldYanksFan
My goodness....
I'm happy.
Not making out was much more important that hitting one.
2007-08-02 11:15:56
209.   Hocakes
Man, these guys just won't be denied!
2007-08-02 11:16:00
210.   ny2ca2dc
this is absolutely nuts. absolutely nuts.
2007-08-02 11:16:06
211.   RIYank
196 Have a little ambition, Mattpat.

What a way to break out of a long 0-fer, Alex!

2007-08-02 11:16:08
212.   Mike T
A-Rod with a hit! He's on the comeback trail from his slump. Let's go guys!
2007-08-02 11:16:13
213.   SF Yanks
2007-08-02 11:16:15
214.   cult of basebaal
jesus, this inning is a helluva game!
2007-08-02 11:16:47
215.   Ben
after the A-rod hit, is it 8-6? Gameday really stinks.
2007-08-02 11:17:14
216.   RIYank
Yum, Logan.
Matsui comes to bat as the go-ahead run, unbelievable. Just unbelievable.
2007-08-02 11:17:20
217.   SF Yanks
215 Yup.
2007-08-02 11:17:39
218.   pistolpete
215 Who the f*ck knows - it says 8-6 but A-Rod is still at the plate!
2007-08-02 11:17:57
219.   dianagramr
Has Elias told us the last time two teams each scored at least 6 runs in the same inning yet?
2007-08-02 11:18:16
220.   OldYanksFan
Man... I expected the Yankees to roll over and die. This is a different team then our first half team.

We will win this game.
Is Joba here yet. We need a SP.

2007-08-02 11:18:21
221.   ny2ca2dc
all of the nonsense from the first half, the rockies & giants series, the 4 HR off a A-ball pitcher & ensuing sweep in boston, the injures to giambino & Franchise - the white sox are on the receiving end of payback for all that shit. man o man
2007-08-02 11:18:53
222.   unmoderated
its nice to share this with someone... i'd normally be sorting books in the storage building with a staticy Sterling and Waldman.
2007-08-02 11:19:40
223.   pistolpete
220 It helps that Chicago stinks. Gee, good thing we didn't get Garland either, eh?

3-0 Boston if anyone's interested.

2007-08-02 11:19:51
224.   dianagramr

I think static would make Sterling and Waldman sound better ....

2007-08-02 11:19:52
225.   RIYank
Sorry, I think I called Abreu's hit a double, it was a single.

Double steal! Matsui Ks, so Jorgie up with men on 2nd and 3rd.

2007-08-02 11:20:10
226.   OldYanksFan
Boston goes back-2-back. Cleveland AND Boston lead 3-0. We need this one.
2007-08-02 11:20:15
227.   cult of basebaal
c'mon jorgie ... a little dink'll do!
2007-08-02 11:20:32
228.   3rd gen yankee fan
I'm getting rather fond of those double steals. k, later!
2007-08-02 11:21:22
229.   unmoderated
222 it does tend to muffle the highest of the waldman highs, but does nothing for the 'high and fars'
2007-08-02 11:21:23
230.   Chyll Will
uhhh... the tech must have installed my cable TV incorrectly... is it really only the 2nd inning??
2007-08-02 11:21:48
231.   unmoderated
bloop double to tie??? I WILL TAKE IT
2007-08-02 11:21:53
232.   RIYank

Posada's pop fly bounces for a ground rule double!!!!

Game tied!!!!

2007-08-02 11:22:12
233.   SF Yanks
2007-08-02 11:22:19
234.   pistolpete
2007-08-02 11:22:23
235.   ny2ca2dc
226 we have this one. we will win this game.
2007-08-02 11:22:41
236.   OldYanksFan
2007-08-02 11:22:42
237.   Chyll Will
uhhh... the cable must be as slow as GameDay, is Jermaine Dye really that slow??
2007-08-02 11:22:44
238.   pistolpete
I feel like I've gone through every emotion there is, and it's not even the third inning.
2007-08-02 11:22:48
239.   rbj
Cue Ozzie's head exploding . . .
2007-08-02 11:22:52
240.   Mike T
Tie game!!!!! Good shit.
2007-08-02 11:23:11
241.   ny2ca2dc
oh my god. oh my god. key is having an anurism. this is payback man, payback. the worm has turned!
2007-08-02 11:23:15
242.   nick
MLB record, Bob?--16 breaks AL record, correct?
2007-08-02 11:23:25
243.   dianagramr
OK ..... has Elias told us the last time each team scored at least 8 runs in the same inning yet?
2007-08-02 11:23:28
244.   cult of basebaal

that is all ...

2007-08-02 11:23:42
245.   unmoderated
phew! now that's an inning.
2007-08-02 11:24:08
246.   RIYank
242 Obliterates the record for total runs in the second inning.
2007-08-02 11:24:50
247.   OldYanksFan
I am literally out of breath.
What just happened was really impossible, right?
8 runs?
I am stunned.
2007-08-02 11:25:23
248.   ny2ca2dc
ok shit, gotta get to the airport so i dont miss my flight, keep up the rooting banterites, i'm going to go clean out my undershorts before heading out - can't belive i gotta leave this. can you believe it
2007-08-02 11:25:25
249.   dianagramr
Its halftime, Jets 8 ... Bears 8
2007-08-02 11:26:27
250.   RIYank
Karstens about as efficient as you can be.
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2007-08-02 11:26:36
251.   JeremyM
Up to Kartsens now, I hope he can shut the Sox down.

Unbelievable inning. Yet believable:)

2007-08-02 11:26:40
252.   Chyll Will
Wow. I need a cigarette... (too bad I don't smoke!)
2007-08-02 11:26:55
253.   cult of basebaal
c'mon jeffy ... now's the time to earn your BRoG badge!
2007-08-02 11:27:13
254.   Mike T
Danny Richar is rocking the Diamondbacks uniform in his gameday picture.
2007-08-02 11:27:27
255.   unmoderated
253 comments at the start of the 3rd.
2007-08-02 11:27:29
256.   RIYank
249 Love those 2-point conversions.
2007-08-02 11:27:55
257.   OldYanksFan
My confession has appeased the Dental Gods. I feel cleansed.

Can't wait for BBTN!

2007-08-02 11:28:21
258.   cult of basebaal
c'mon ... 1-2-3 ... don't give 'em any time to breathe or steady themselves ...

pound them, harry, pound them!

2007-08-02 11:28:26
259.   Mike T
It could be worse though, because Karstens looks high in his picture.
2007-08-02 11:28:36
260.   Shaun P
104 That's our man Alex B, calling the comeback!

105 Anyone with a TV - has Ozzie's head exploded yet?


2007-08-02 11:28:51
261.   RIYank
Jeff is da man.
2007-08-02 11:28:56
262.   unmoderated
yeah, 1-2-3 quick quick quick
2007-08-02 11:29:24
263.   Shaun P
257 OYF, there's another of those one-two-three thingys. ;)
2007-08-02 11:29:50
264.   Chyll Will
I want more... >:'
2007-08-02 11:30:06
265.   Mike T
Karstens is mowing 'em down. Too bad he didn't start.
2007-08-02 11:30:16
266.   OldYanksFan
Cleveland about to win 5-0.
But really, who cares.
This is really where we need an ESPN guy in the dougout to get Ozzie's reaction.
2007-08-02 11:31:03
267.   seamus
This is the perfect situation to use Karstens. Glad to have him back.
2007-08-02 11:31:45
268.   OldYanksFan
Meanwhile, Wakefield gives up 3. Tied in Boston after 4.5
2007-08-02 11:31:53
269.   glennrwordman
Baltimore 3, BSox 3
2007-08-02 11:32:46
270.   RIYank
268 That means it's a terrible day for knuckleballers, right?
2007-08-02 11:32:50
271.   Chyll Will
266 I don't think there's a transcriber in existence that could get you Ozzie's possible reaction to that. Maybe Daffy Duck on a bad day is as close as you can get...
2007-08-02 11:33:06
272.   yankz
What a weird, weird game.

Jeter just got Pipped.

2007-08-02 11:33:42
273.   JohnnyC
Way off the plate for strike 3. Hey, remind these umpires Yankee Stadium's a Questec park.
2007-08-02 11:33:49
274.   Shaun P
270 Hey, but those guys have rubber arms - they can pitch everyday! ;) (Bring on Haegar!)

268 269 Yeehaw!

2007-08-02 11:34:16
275.   OldYanksFan
Did you see how far OUTSIDE that strike 3 was? It grazed the line of the batters box.
What the F is the matter with this ump?
2007-08-02 11:34:25
276.   JeremyM's headline: "Yankees, White Sox roll 8s in nutty second"
2007-08-02 11:34:26
277.   SF Yanks
This ump is calling strikes that are 2-3 inches off the plate. Last time I checked those were BALLS, hence the reasoning behind a STRIKE ZONE.
2007-08-02 11:35:06
278.   fansince77
Holy Crap! After the top of the second I stepped out to go to the quarry get a ton of driveway gravel load up my truck and came back and shoveled it into my driveway- I came inside for a second cup of coffee and HOLY CRAP! I caught the end of the second inning!
2007-08-02 11:35:27
279.   cult of basebaal
would be kinda ironic if this turned into a pitchers duel between jeff karstens and boone logan after the score was 8-8 after 2 innings ....
2007-08-02 11:36:39
280.   RIYank
Cintron took too long! Damon beats it out!
Gotta be an error.
2007-08-02 11:36:41
281.   pistolpete
269 Don't think Cleveland's losing their game, tho'. 5-0 in the 8th.
2007-08-02 11:37:02
282.   RIYank
278 Go away again.
No offense.
2007-08-02 11:37:13
283.   OldYanksFan
Who is watching this game? Have you seen how many called strikes to the Yankees were 4-6 inches off the plate? How can an Ump miss by that much? What's the point of having a good batting eye!
2007-08-02 11:37:31
284.   Chyll Will
275 He heard about this football team playing in the AL recently and doesn't want to get caught in the heat if they're around...
2007-08-02 11:37:58
285.   fansince77
I guess it's time to get more gravel?
2007-08-02 11:38:01
286.   Bob Timmermann
For your statistical interest:
2007-08-02 11:39:01
287.   Shaun P
285 What are you waiting for!?!?! ;)

283 The second 'strike' to A-Rod in his last AB was about 3 inches outside. Home ump is James Hoye . . . his name doesn't ring a bell.

2007-08-02 11:39:29
288.   RIYank
Why is Thome out??
2007-08-02 11:40:23
289.   OldYanksFan
Wakefield's ERA is over 4.6 and Tavarez is over 5. With Gag-me now in the BP, might Papsmear be moved to the rotation?
2007-08-02 11:40:32
290.   glennrwordman
Thome is out so they could get some power in their lineup with Podsednik...
2007-08-02 11:40:36
291.   Shaun P
Ozzie just took out his best hitter, in a tie game, for Podzilla?

Thanks Ozzeroo!!!!!

2007-08-02 11:40:41
292.   RIYank
God, I hate Podsednik. (He doubles.)
2007-08-02 11:41:17
293.   YankeeInMichigan
I wrote on the last thread that I dreaded Karstens pitching to Thome. Well Posednik is now pinch-hitting for Thome. Did Thome get hurt?
2007-08-02 11:41:18
294.   rbj
286 Thanks Bob.
2007-08-02 11:41:21
295.   pistolpete
290 Were you being sarcastic, or just trying to jinx us?
2007-08-02 11:41:23
296.   RIYank
290 No lie, it turns out! No more of that kind of sarcasm from you, please.
2007-08-02 11:41:36
297.   Shaun P
289 Nah, no such worries, Big Mouth is coming back, so Sucker Punch will be moving to the pen.
2007-08-02 11:42:53
298.   BklynBmr
Been watching, but too swamped to post... man, every game the records books are getting rewritten. This is f'ing amazing... there's something going on. I'm thinking the Ghosts (of '77?) are going to make sure this a championship year...
2007-08-02 11:42:59
299.   glennrwordman
295, 296--Sorry.
2007-08-02 11:43:17
300.   rbs10025
I just checked the score for he first time this afternoon. WTF?
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2007-08-02 11:44:24
301.   RIYank
300 Read through the thread and try to recreate the game. :-)
2007-08-02 11:45:38
302.   glennrwordman
299 is how i should have done the link, I guess...
2007-08-02 11:45:41
303.   RIYank
Dye homers. Crud.
2007-08-02 11:46:17
304.   RIYank
No way we can come back from a deficit like this, not against a good pitcher!

302 Well done.

2007-08-02 11:46:19
305.   OldYanksFan
2007-08-02 11:46:32
306.   Shaun P
300 You might want to skip comments 40-100 though. We were a little down at the time. =)

Carp! This is going to be one of "those games", isn't it?

2007-08-02 11:46:59
307.   Alex Belth
Argh! Dammit, Jeff
2007-08-02 11:47:02
308.   glennrwordman
304 When I am able to learn something new, a little baby gets a Yankee bib...
2007-08-02 11:47:08
309.   pistolpete
Mother f*cking Dye.
2007-08-02 11:47:41
310.   Shaun P
302 Not your fault, glenn.

Now if a Yank was pitching a game in which no one on the opposing team had reached base, and you used the short phrase to describe it - then you might be in trouble. =)

2007-08-02 11:48:09
311.   yankz
Scary Fly Ball Guy.
2007-08-02 11:48:14
312.   RIYank
Dye in a fire.
2007-08-02 11:48:27
313.   Yankees Brasil
seriously, can´t allow 10 runs to the weak White Sox
2007-08-02 11:48:32
314.   YankeeInMichigan
293 I was going to say that I dreaded Karstens pitching to Thome or Dye. But then I figured that Dye doesn't hit homers any more. :-(
2007-08-02 11:48:50
315.   glennrwordman
310 Mum's da' word.
2007-08-02 11:49:26
316.   standuptriple
Show us (and Joe) what you've got Jeff!
2007-08-02 11:49:41
317.   YankeeInMichigan
We want Edwar.
2007-08-02 11:51:28
318.   OldYanksFan
313 5 are UNearned
2007-08-02 11:51:48
319.   pistolpete
Jesus, just get him out already!
2007-08-02 11:51:52
320.   standuptriple
We want 5+ quality innings.
2007-08-02 11:52:32
321.   RIYank
Okay, good job Jeff. (By comparison.)

Now let's pound some leather.

2007-08-02 11:52:58
322.   Zack
Wow, i go away for about an hour and a half, miss 18 runs, 320 posts, and no Arod homer! Good Lord!
2007-08-02 11:53:08
323.   glennrwordman
319...and ye shall receive. (Were that it was always so easy).
2007-08-02 11:53:12
324.   pistolpete
Heheh - I love when the little ball in GameDay goes into foul territory.
2007-08-02 11:53:16
325.   rbj
Darn shame Proctor isn't here to pitch 2-3 innings.
2007-08-02 11:53:25
326.   cult of basebaal
never fear, agod is going to get at least 1 of those back this inning ...
2007-08-02 11:53:54
327.   ToyCannon
Over at Dodger Thoughts we called Betemit "Boom Boom". Now you know why.
2007-08-02 11:54:23
328.   RIYank
324 pete, and shaun, and others -- you know you can watch A-Rod's at-bats on-line, right?
2007-08-02 11:54:59
329.   OldYanksFan
I confess that if we don't win this game I will be seriously bummed out.
2007-08-02 11:55:05
330.   pistolpete
Of COURSE Guthrie looks shaky against the Red Sox. Why wouldn't he?
2007-08-02 11:55:49
331.   RIYank
327 He's fond of beans?
2007-08-02 11:55:56
332.   BklynBmr
312 I did not want to see him Beantown. Glad that one fell apart...
2007-08-02 11:56:41
333.   OldYanksFan
Oops... Boston with a big time rally. Sacs full, one out.
2007-08-02 11:57:19
334.   RIYank
More pitchers, Oz, we want more pitchers!
2007-08-02 11:58:01
335.   SF Yanks
As great as that 2nd inning was, why don't I have that warm fuzzy feeling that we're winning this game?
2007-08-02 11:58:37
336.   pistolpete
Alright, Alex - we actually NEED the runs today. Anytime you'd like to pop that #500 is fine with us.
2007-08-02 11:58:47
337.   RIYank
A-Rod's at-bat is on, go to the mlb homepage for the free link if you don't already have it up.
2007-08-02 12:01:11
338.   RIYank
Goddam it. I thought it was supposed to be live -- the mlb link must be a full minute behind.
2007-08-02 12:01:16
339.   unmoderated
come on, arod.
2007-08-02 12:01:40
340.   Jeteupthemiddle
I think this is the type of moment when Joe Buck would know to shut up and let the crowd take over and where Michael Kay has no such concept.
2007-08-02 12:01:51
341.   RIYank
Sweet! I look forward to watching that single in a minute or so.
2007-08-02 12:02:14
342.   SF Yanks
2007-08-02 12:02:28
343.   seamus
ok, so matsui is player of the month. cool. and he wins a big screen tv. why? He can't afford it? They should award it as a prize to a fan. It would create more interest in the award from the fans. And it would be a less meaningless prize.
2007-08-02 12:02:40
344.   RIYank
Hideki was Player of the Month.
No surprise.
2007-08-02 12:02:44
345.   glennrwordman
Lord, he's just a good hitter.
2007-08-02 12:02:53
346.   Zack
340 I don't think the notion of not talking as ever occurred to Kay
2007-08-02 12:02:57
347.   seamus
342 works for me. back to work.
2007-08-02 12:04:12
348.   glennrwordman
340 Yap, yap, yap, and yet...nothing at all enlightening is said.

Almost as bad as the between pitch noise at Shea that absolutely prohibits any contemplation of the game...

2007-08-02 12:04:17
349.   SF Yanks
Anyone else having problems with mlb Tv or is it just me?
2007-08-02 12:04:45
350.   Jeteupthemiddle
343 Good idea.

After I read your first sentence my response was "well clearly the sponsor wants it known that it provided something"

But you are right, the sponsor can still provide something...just give it to a fan....a raffle of some sorts.

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2007-08-02 12:04:45
351.   tommyl
What did A-Rod do?
2007-08-02 12:05:26
352.   OldYanksFan
Bases loaded, one out, Papi up.
Deep drive to right.
Caught at the edge of the warning track in deep RF.
Mirabelli tags up so Boston is up 4-3.
No... wait....
I don't see how... but it happened.
2007-08-02 12:05:31
353.   fansince77
I thought AROD should have taken off w/ 2 strikes...Oh well.
2007-08-02 12:05:36
354.   RIYank
351 Singled. Nice hit, reached out for it.
2007-08-02 12:06:08
355.   williamnyy23
Does anyone know if Clemens was "booed" off the mound as the AP story's headline suggests?
2007-08-02 12:06:24
356.   RIYank
Tommyl, you can watch his at-bats at without a subscription or anything.
2007-08-02 12:07:02
357.   RIYank
355 I think there were a few boos, but no, he wasn't really booed off the mound.
2007-08-02 12:07:12
358.   OldYanksFan
355 Only by us...
2007-08-02 12:07:24
359.   JeremyM
355 I hope not, it was a horse-sh-t outing, but come on.
2007-08-02 12:07:39
360.   fansince77
Take off Hideki...worst case- Jorge leads off next inning!
2007-08-02 12:07:52
361.   RIYank
Next inning, though, for sure.
2007-08-02 12:08:31
362.   Shaun P
328 356 Thank you, RIYank - much obliged!
2007-08-02 12:09:20
363.   OldYanksFan
Has anyone EVER seen someone throw out at the plate from DEEP right field in FENWAY?
I didn't think that was possible.
Mirabelli should go in the record books for that.
2007-08-02 12:09:22
364.   williamnyy23
I really hope this comeback doesn't go for naught...that would suck worse than losing getting blown out.
2007-08-02 12:09:51
365.   fansince77
See if Hideki is going there...that hole is open...I know, I know ...if he goes the pitch before he gets thrown out...but let's hope that we don't keep relying on the homerun and remember that it was some pretty risky "Angels type" ball that got us back into this race (until the last couple of games of course).
2007-08-02 12:12:16
366.   nawlins yankee
In the Red Sox game, Ortiz hit ball 10 feet short of the track in rightfield, Mirabelli tagged up, thought he left too early, went back again, jogged home, and was out by 3 feet. It was amazing.
2007-08-02 12:12:21
367.   fansince77
If the ump is giving 4 inches outside...why are we right down the f'n middle!

No more runs!

2007-08-02 12:12:44
368.   williamnyy23
Let's see how long it takes Joe to realize that Karstens maybe tiring in sweltering heat as he pitches in his first game back.
2007-08-02 12:12:44
369.   Alex Belth
Hey Jeff, try not sucking, huh
2007-08-02 12:13:06
370.   Shaun P
363 No. If, say, Ichiro was playing RF, and, oh, one of the Molina brothers was running - then I could at least imagine it.
2007-08-02 12:13:11
371.   pistolpete
367 I thought you were going for more gravel!
2007-08-02 12:13:21
372.   Jeteupthemiddle
363 Apparently Mirabelli thought he left early and tagged up twice.

Going back to 3rd for the second time is what killed him.

2007-08-02 12:15:27
373.   fansince77
371 I did and that is when the Sox scored two...maybe I need to switch to sod or something.
2007-08-02 12:15:33
374.   RIYank
Dammit. Alex almost got that line drive, crud.

I deeply despise Podsednik. Deeply.

2007-08-02 12:15:48
375.   fansince77
2007-08-02 12:15:57
376.   williamnyy23
Sterling...diving catch by Arod...ass hole!
2007-08-02 12:16:00
377.   Shaun P
368 369 Scary Flyball Guy isn't his name for nothing.

Henn could come in here and get the Yanks to the 7th at least . . .

See Joe why you don't pitch Vizcaino in a blowout? Villone would have been the much better option.

2007-08-02 12:16:45
378.   Shaun P
Please tell me someone is warming up in the pen. Please?
2007-08-02 12:17:00
379.   fansince77
wow- Posada chilled to that ball...I know the sun was there but that was plain lazy.
2007-08-02 12:17:04
380.   JohnnyC
377 8th inning. you know the drill.
2007-08-02 12:18:06
381.   Alex Belth
Scott have got to be kidding me.
2007-08-02 12:18:17
382.   seamus
376 I thought he caught it too.
2007-08-02 12:18:31
383.   JohnnyC
379I know Posada's hot right now but is it just me or has Molina actually played less than Nieves?
2007-08-02 12:18:58
384.   fansince77
OK - enuff of Kartsens...we've got better options.
2007-08-02 12:19:57
385.   pistolpete
383 Did you really want him and Posada out of the lineup on the same day?
2007-08-02 12:20:14
386.   williamnyy23
The Yankees better get those hitting shoes back on...damn, I hate these afternoon games. Having to rely on Sterling to be my eyes is bad enough, but dealing with that during a loss is even worse.

Memo to more weekday games next year. Other teams screw the Yankees, so they shouldn't feel bad about doing the same.

2007-08-02 12:20:22
387.   Yu-Hsing Chen
I thought this game was in Yankee stadium and not Arlington, I guess it must be global warming, save us AL Gore
2007-08-02 12:20:30
388.   RIYank
I don't agree. I stick with Karstens for two more innings, unless he gets lit up.
2007-08-02 12:21:06
389.   rconn23
Great job by the offense to get us back into this. Karstens sucks.

Can we bring back Ramiro Menodza?

2007-08-02 12:23:40
390.   RIYank
Upper deck, just foul.
2007-08-02 12:23:47
391.   Jeteupthemiddle
Boston took the lead in the bottom of the 7th...still threatening.
2007-08-02 12:24:12
392.   williamnyy23
fucking sterling!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-08-02 12:24:15
393.   RIYank
Good enough, Wilson. (He walks.)
2007-08-02 12:25:18
394.   NJYankee41
Betemit has homered, struck out and walked. Everything he was advertised as.
2007-08-02 12:25:28
395.   unpopster
relax all, Arod is going to win us the game with his 500th HR.
2007-08-02 12:25:33
396.   williamnyy23
393 It is high, it is far, he walks.
2007-08-02 12:26:41
397.   Bob B
Karstens Stinks. Should have shopped him around too.
2007-08-02 12:27:15
398.   RIYank
394 Three true outcomes!
2007-08-02 12:27:47
399.   Jeteupthemiddle
Why do they have to embarrass the poor sweating man?
2007-08-02 12:27:56
400.   JohnnyC
397 No BFOG for him, eh?
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2007-08-02 12:28:36
401.   RIYank
Dang, I have to leave shortly. I expected to be able to catch almost the whole game.

Nice job, Johnny -- how about a single and a walk now, boys?

2007-08-02 12:29:44
402.   RIYank
Gagne is going to close.
2007-08-02 12:32:06
403.   RIYank
Damn. DAMN.

I was enjoying the game, but now I really want the W.

I'll have to follow the rest in the car. See youse.

2007-08-02 12:32:50
404.   williamnyy23
Another three outs wasted.
2007-08-02 12:33:58
405.   Jeteupthemiddle
I wonder if the Yankees know that they are allowed to continue scoring.

I realize that 8 is a lot...but it isn't a cap or anything.

2007-08-02 12:34:30
406.   fansince77
I think the sweaty guy might have spilled a beer on that foul ball...anyone else? Because if not his name should be Svet Glanderson or something like that...but I don't think the Scandanavians are particularly svetty people?
2007-08-02 12:35:41
407.   pistolpete
402 Speaking of which, did anyone else hear the interview with Theo on Mike & Mike this morning? They flat out asked him how Gagne would be used when they already had Papelboner, and he completely dodged the question.

I see some bruised egos in Boston between now and October...

2007-08-02 12:40:04
408.   ric

Gagne acknowledged that he knows hes here to set up Papelbon in his presser... he'll get some saves though.

2007-08-02 12:41:42
409.   fansince77
We all know Matzilla is going deep this game the only question is can someone or two get on for him?
2007-08-02 12:41:53
410.   NJYankee41
408 What is going to say? "I'm better I should close."
2007-08-02 12:42:57
411.   pistolpete
408 Then one would think that Theo would have come right out and said that.

He sounded like a man who was avoiding a commitment one way or another.

2007-08-02 12:43:35
412.   williamnyy23
This three run deficit seems larger than the 8-0 gap in the 2nd.
2007-08-02 12:44:17
413.   Jeteupthemiddle
Well Theo must have said something to satisfy Gagne enough to waive his no-trade.

Of course, that something may have simply been "we'll pick up all your incentives"

Or that something could have been "8 games up."

2007-08-02 12:46:20
414.   glennrwordman
Mean Abreu, stealin' thunder.
2007-08-02 12:46:35
415.   pistolpete
2007-08-02 12:47:05
416.   Shaun P
That a boy, Bobby!

C'mon Alex, this is the time!

2007-08-02 12:47:14
417.   cult of basebaal
412 correction! two run deficit ...
2007-08-02 12:47:53
418.   pistolpete
413 "Or that something could have been "8 games up."

I think that's more like it. They're all but guaranteed to go to the playoffs - who wouldn't want to hop on that bus?

2007-08-02 12:48:48
419.   Chyll Will
Let me just put it out there, because I hadda notion this situation might come up... A-Rod's 500th (provided he hasn't hit it already) will be the difference in the game.

I have no scientific basis for this, I'm just sayin'.

2007-08-02 12:49:28
420.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Jesus, it's a launching pad out there ove the last few days
2007-08-02 12:49:46
421.   pistolpete
Well, at least A-Rod would possibly bat in the 9th, hopefully as the winning run. :-)
2007-08-02 12:49:49
422.   ric
i dont see the strife when he verbally acknowledged his role. he could have vetoed the trade.


right- the money and he said something to the effect of id rather win a world series than get 15 more saves. no question he'll be back in the closers role next year for the sox or elsewhere.

2007-08-02 12:49:50
423.   fansince77
Let's hope that Torre NOW tries to manage to win this game! I know...a man can hope.
2007-08-02 12:51:13
424.   NJYankee41
I had a terrible experience with Is it always so choppy or was it just me?
2007-08-02 12:54:52
425.   Jeteupthemiddle
So the Yankees have 3 innings to score at least 2 runs without allowing another run.

I think the Yankees can do it.

Do the Yankees think they can do it?

2007-08-02 12:55:11
426.   standuptriple
I can't believe we've already seen Myers and Villone and the game isn't out of reach.
2007-08-02 12:56:09
427.   standuptriple
Can someone nudge Joe and tell him that there are 9 outs left?
2007-08-02 12:57:42
428.   Jeteupthemiddle
427 What is he supposed to be doing?
2007-08-02 12:58:48
429.   standuptriple
428 He tends to lull off in the the afternoons of "House $" games, that's all.
2007-08-02 12:59:55
430.   Jeteupthemiddle
428 So people here and various other blogs keep saying.

I'm just wondering what he was supposed to do that he hasn't done.

Seems like he is doing an ok job to me...his pitcher just sucked.

2007-08-02 13:00:14
431.   Jeteupthemiddle
430 refers to 429 of course.
2007-08-02 13:00:32
432.   pistolpete
429 More tea!
2007-08-02 13:02:47
433.   williamnyy23
430 I think the point is Joe needs to be alert for signs of Villone's pending collapse. He slept through Roger's and Karsten's.
2007-08-02 13:04:46
434.   OldYanksFan
Gag-me gives up a run in 1 IP. I think Papsmear might start if Schrill is cooked.
2007-08-02 13:05:05
435.   pistolpete
Villone's trying to squash the potential comeback I guess?
2007-08-02 13:06:16
436.   standuptriple
435 That's what he does. At least he's consistent.
2007-08-02 13:06:28
437.   Jeteupthemiddle
433 Did he sleep through it or did he say to himself "Self, It is only the 2nd inning. I need to preserve the bullpen at least a little bit here. How often does Clemens not even make it out of the second anyway?"
2007-08-02 13:07:58
438.   Jeteupthemiddle
Geez. I can't believe he tried to tag on that.

Sac fly to the second baseman? Really?

2007-08-02 13:08:20
439.   pistolpete
434 Oh but those first 2 batters were both Ks, looking - those Sawx fans must have been foaming at the mouth watching that...
2007-08-02 13:08:30
440.   williamnyy23
Thank you very much Cano! I have a feeling if Abreu caught that ball, Richar scores.
2007-08-02 13:10:34
441.   standuptriple
427 I was mainly referring to Joe's tendency to PH...uh...Cairo for...say...Phillips in times like this, which would be ignorant, IMO.
2007-08-02 13:10:38
442.   williamnyy23
437 He should have been asking himself, "how often does Clemens get battered around by a light hitting team like the White Sox"? I think it was clear when Thome singled that Roger had seen enough. Those three extra runs are now very important. The Yankees are long past losing battles to win the war.
2007-08-02 13:12:20
443.   pistolpete
I want 'Boom Boom' to tie the game.
2007-08-02 13:13:18
444.   pistolpete
Ok, Cano's got to actually get on first before that would happen.
2007-08-02 13:14:04
445.   fansince77
that was soooo ball four ...hey c'mon cano took it!
2007-08-02 13:14:22
446.   Shaun P
Way to work the count, Robbie!
2007-08-02 13:15:13
447.   Shaun P
Whoever called Jeter pinch-hitting in the 8th with the game on the line was just an inning off.

I agree with this move, BTW - Betemit is not a very good hitter vs LHP.

2007-08-02 13:15:34
448.   standuptriple
Make way for The Captain newbie.
2007-08-02 13:16:13
449.   pistolpete
Eh, I would have left Betemit in and PH Jeter for Philips. Then you put Cairo at 1B...
2007-08-02 13:16:27
450.   unmoderated
i told yall jete would pinch hit representing the tying run.
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2007-08-02 13:16:52
451.   OldYanksFan
I confess that when the tying run comes to the plate late in a game (which happens pretty often), I really miss Giambi (sorry Weeping).
2007-08-02 13:17:29
452.   Shaun P
450 I did not forget! 447 (Though if I got the inning wrong, I apologize.)
2007-08-02 13:17:33
453.   standuptriple
Yes. Force Ozzie to make "managerial decisions" is the way to go. Kind of like choosing "Business Ethics" in Billy Madison.
2007-08-02 13:18:32
454.   unmoderated
nah, i got the inning wrong.
2007-08-02 13:18:56
455.   unmoderated
nice, 453
2007-08-02 13:19:19
456.   standuptriple
Maybe we'll see Slam Duncan before Cairo?
2007-08-02 13:19:48
457.   unmoderated
sandy duncan?
2007-08-02 13:20:14
458.   OldYanksFan
Do we see FrankenShelly this inning? Let's stay away from a DP here.
2007-08-02 13:20:56
459.   pistolpete
458 Not against a righty.
2007-08-02 13:21:39
460.   pistolpete
Jeez, Derek - Betemit could have done that
2007-08-02 13:21:54
461.   unmoderated
mister phillips, wtg.
2007-08-02 13:22:00
462.   OldYanksFan
Wow... bad Derek
2007-08-02 13:22:12
463.   fansince77
Jeter gave away that at bat with impatience.
2007-08-02 13:22:41
464.   glennrwordman
Is it weird that the CSox have had three guys leave the game due to injury? Thome, Cintron and now Erstad? Are they beating on each other in the dugout?
2007-08-02 13:22:52
465.   SF Yanks
Odds are it's going to be this inning over any other.
2007-08-02 13:23:00
466.   pistolpete
If Ozzie brings in a righty for Damon, Torre would win my utmost respect if he PH Duncan.
2007-08-02 13:23:01
467.   Jeteupthemiddle
Useless Statistic: Since July 2, Cano has as many games in which he drew at least 1 walk as games in which he didn't get at least 1 hit. (6 each)

I'm sure that isn't really good, but I thought it was a mild accomplishment for one Robinson Cano.

Ha: Andy Pettitte with a ground ball
Me: Huh?

2007-08-02 13:23:25
468.   williamnyy23
463 I hate when Jeter pinch's rare when he does...but I always seem to recall his being very aggressive, almost as if he is trying to make up for lost time.
2007-08-02 13:23:42
469.   unmoderated
2007-08-02 13:23:46
470.   standuptriple
464 Well, they couldn't beat on Roger anymore. You gotta beat somethin'
2007-08-02 13:23:48
471.   Jeteupthemiddle
Aww nuts.
2007-08-02 13:23:57
472.   Chyll Will
2007-08-02 13:24:19
473.   OldYanksFan
JD used to be able to drag bunt for a hit. With the infield back, it's a very good play. At worst, it puts 2 guys in scoring position.


2007-08-02 13:24:20
474.   SF Yanks
And there go the odds.
2007-08-02 13:24:26
475.   williamnyy23
FUCK...they are going to waste this game.
2007-08-02 13:24:28
476.   pistolpete
Lemme guess. DP by Damon.
2007-08-02 13:24:49
477.   fansince77
wow - damon is showing some serious signs of life...btw if he got an inch under that that's upper, upper deck.

It's all good

2007-08-02 13:25:25
478.   pistolpete
476 How did I even know without Gamecast updating yet? F*ckin' Damon.
2007-08-02 13:25:25
479.   OldYanksFan
That was a ball-buster. Crap.
2007-08-02 13:25:34
480.   standuptriple
The Yankees only bunt when it doesn't catch the opposition by surprise.
2007-08-02 13:25:50
481.   fansince77
no way we blame Damon for that bad luck...Just no way!
2007-08-02 13:25:58
482.   Jeteupthemiddle
476 Well yes, but it was a fantastic play...even if possibly just a reaction play.
2007-08-02 13:26:06
483.   Chyll Will
467 Heh! I said the same exact thing. I'll bet half the tri-state area said it in unison.
2007-08-02 13:26:14
484.   DougP
Actually, Damon just missed a game-tying double. Konerko made an excellent play to catch it and double off Cano.
2007-08-02 13:26:25
485.   yankz
Well, that wasn't really Damon's fault. That was at least one RBI if not hit right at the dude.

In the 8th, Melky and Abreu will get on for a go-ahead number 500.

2007-08-02 13:26:26
486.   OldYanksFan
478 No. Hit killed the ball. Scorching line drive. Bad luck DP.
2007-08-02 13:26:47
487.   Jeteupthemiddle
OH Noooz!
2007-08-02 13:27:00
488.   williamnyy23
Who woke Joe up! The team is probably better off when he is asleep.
2007-08-02 13:27:06
489.   williamnyy23
Who woke Joe up! The team is probably better off when he is asleep.
2007-08-02 13:28:12
490.   yankz
Oh my god...another reason to hate Farnsworth. He forces one of our hottest hitters out of the lineup.

Don't give me this "it's hot" BS, Kay. We know what this is about.

2007-08-02 13:28:13
491.   standuptriple
485 Mr. 500 is welcome to come around any time today.
2007-08-02 13:28:29
492.   williamnyy23
Just what this awful game needs...a Posada injury.
2007-08-02 13:28:44
493.   OldYanksFan
Farnsworth? Say it ain't so Joe. You're killing your biggest fan.
2007-08-02 13:28:45
494.   tommyl
Yes, Kyle is in! I know we'll win this game now!
2007-08-02 13:28:54
495.   yankz
Yeah, Tony Pena is a hardass.
2007-08-02 13:29:19
496.   DougP
Posoda took himself out. They just showed on YES that he signalled to the dugout that he was cramping up.
2007-08-02 13:29:21
497.   Jeteupthemiddle
490 I'm gonna go ahead and assume you are being sarcastic.

My sarcastic meter is usually broken though.

2007-08-02 13:29:23
498.   tommyl
Huh? Posada is hurt?! What happened?
2007-08-02 13:29:28
499.   yankz
Wait...he's injured? Whoops, guess I was wrong...
2007-08-02 13:29:44
500.   pistolpete
Farnsworth? Does anyone else hear taps playing in their head?
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2007-08-02 13:29:46
501.   Chyll Will
The sight of Farnsworth still on this team and pitching after the seventh inning would make anyone cramp up, huh?
2007-08-02 13:29:51
502.   OldYanksFan
3-1 odds its a BB.
2007-08-02 13:30:21
503.   Jeteupthemiddle
It appears he was just cramping up due to the heat and being dehydrated.
2007-08-02 13:30:59
504.   yankz
497 Yeah, I didn't actually think they'd choose Farns over Posada. It was more my anger at seeing that stupid oaf speaking than anything.
2007-08-02 13:31:03
505.   pistolpete
Wow, Posada faking a cramp so he won't have to catch Kyle? ;-)
2007-08-02 13:32:20
506.   williamnyy23
504 That greates a nice giant hole in the middle of the I have a cramp.
2007-08-02 13:32:35
507.   YankeeInMichigan
496 Perhaps Jorgie just didn't want to deal with Farnsworth.
2007-08-02 13:32:58
508.   Jeteupthemiddle
I love me some Kyle Farnsworth.
2007-08-02 13:32:59
509.   unmoderated
not coming back.
boo birds for kyle.
2007-08-02 13:33:39
510.   Raf
2007-08-02 13:33:42
511.   OldYanksFan
What a surprise....
2007-08-02 13:33:43
512.   YankeeInMichigan
505 You beat me to that one.
2007-08-02 13:33:44
513.   yankz
Hey, big fucking surprise.
2007-08-02 13:33:51
514.   Shaun P


Where is Mattpat111 to properly give voice to my frustrations?!?!?!

2007-08-02 13:33:54
515.   Chyll Will
Booooooo! I'm hungry! I want Kyle's head on a platter!! (maybe not, then I'll definitely get a cramp...)
2007-08-02 13:34:17
516.   Raf
was it a decent pitch, at least?
2007-08-02 13:34:21
517.   pistolpete
Ugh, and here I was about to speculate on 0-2 about whether or not Farnsworth was turning a corner...
2007-08-02 13:34:37
518.   williamnyy23
The biggest obstacle to the Yankees winning is Joe Torre. He has become an anchor that refuses to allow the Yankees to rise to the level they should be at. Until Torre is fired, this team will continue to play with one arm tied behind his back. Joe must's long over due.
2007-08-02 13:34:38
519.   JohnnyC
Could Wickman be worse?
2007-08-02 13:35:06
520.   Chyll Will
508 Here, you can have mine (dry heaving...)
2007-08-02 13:35:13
521.   yankz
516 Hanging slider, I thought it sucked, but I am, admittedly, biased.
2007-08-02 13:35:14
522.   unmoderated
hanging slider.
2007-08-02 13:35:48
523.   pistolpete
519 If only this happened on Monday. Cashman would have assuredly eaten the 7 million.
2007-08-02 13:36:06
524.   Shaun P
519 Possibly.

I have come to hate "the Formula".

2007-08-02 13:36:33
525.   williamnyy23
519 The more I think of it...not pulling off that deal was absurd, even if the Yankees had to pay the entire contract.
2007-08-02 13:36:38
526.   Chyll Will
517 Yes, if he's going the wrong way around a dodecahedron...
2007-08-02 13:37:18
527.   Rob Middletown CT
Fuck Kyle Farnsworth gently with a chainsaw.
2007-08-02 13:37:31
528.   JohnnyC
One theory had it that the Proctor trade was to take away one of Torre's toys. Well, who's going to step in and take away Cashman's toy, Farnsworth. He turned down Wickman for Farnsworth + cash from Atlanta at the deadline. So we could yet again have the bullpen pitch us out of a possible comeback.
2007-08-02 13:37:36
529.   Shaun P
521 522 ARGH!

Why hasn't that SOB been exiled to the back of the pen yet?

2007-08-02 13:38:18
530.   unmoderated
in the black.
thats gotta be the end of farnsworth.
make him the batboy if you have to.
2007-08-02 13:38:29
531.   pistolpete
2007-08-02 13:38:30
532.   Jeteupthemiddle
I love me some Kyle Farnsworth.
2007-08-02 13:39:03
533.   unmoderated
2007-08-02 13:39:05
534.   OldYanksFan
OK. I give. Get this guy on a bus to anywhere, fast!
2007-08-02 13:39:07
535.   Hocakes
Kyle Farnsworth is a pretty big guy, will he fit through waivers?
2007-08-02 13:39:11
536.   pistolpete
I never thought I'd see these words on a web site, but Joe should have left Villone in.
2007-08-02 13:39:20
537.   Shaun P

I've changed my mind. Give me Wickman!!

2007-08-02 13:39:21
538.   glennrwordman
You kinda gotta ask: What WILL it take for him to not pitch for the NYY ever again?
2007-08-02 13:39:35
539.   yankz
519 I had this post typed out:

"Yes, he's a 101 ERA+ in the NL (while Farns is at 96). And Wickman would cost about 10 million bucks."

But now, my answer is much simpler: No.

2007-08-02 13:39:58
540.   Rob Middletown CT
Another one?


2007-08-02 13:40:14
541.   Chyll Will
524 Cool... Now I have D.O.C. and Dr. Dre stuck in my head. Haven't heard that in a while.

Somebody give Kay a warm cup of STFU... please?

2007-08-02 13:40:19
542.   glennrwordman
I'm following along on Gameday; someone please let me know the "boo" level at inning's end.
2007-08-02 13:40:34
543.   SF Yanks
ONE good reason for keeping FARNSWORTHLESS, ONE?!!! ONE???
2007-08-02 13:40:58
544.   unmoderated
oh man, farnsy was hearing it from the crowd.
2007-08-02 13:41:11
545.   tommyl
535 Who cares? If some team claims him, they get the whole freakin' contract. Good riddance.
2007-08-02 13:41:30
546.   yankz
543 Great clubhouse guy.
2007-08-02 13:41:30
547.   unmoderated
543 hes good in a brawl.
2007-08-02 13:41:35
548.   Shaun P
Another run and Cano and Melky's misplays in the first will be meaningless.

Unfrickin believable. I feel bad for everyone who stepped out when the times were good.

539 I had this typed out:

"528 The problem with that is that Wickman, who's an old, fat, veteran pitcher with closing experience has a BFOG+ that is at least as great at Proctor's - and would have immediately become Joe's "go-to" guy. I'm not sure I'd want that."


2007-08-02 13:41:47
549.   JohnnyC
He essentially asked to be traded when he made those unsolicited comments about Rocket's traveling privileges. That was a cry for help Cashman refused to acknowledge.
2007-08-02 13:41:54
550.   OldYanksFan
Man... going to the Dentist would have been more fun then this. What a bummer.
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2007-08-02 13:42:20
551.   williamnyy23
Another late inning comeback made all the more difficult by Joe Torre's formulaic ignorance...there is no longer a logical defense for Torre keeping his job. Memo to Cashman...if you want to!
2007-08-02 13:43:34
552.   SF Yanks
547 Dammit... you got one. I couldn't think of one but knew that one existed.
2007-08-02 13:43:46
553.   Shaun P
551 I think DFA'ing Farnsworth, and calling up the kids, would be more useful at this moment.

But even if Joe leads the Yanks to a WS win, he's got to go at year's end. Let him come back to manage the ASG next year even - but when the World Series ends, so must his tenure as Yankee manager.

2007-08-02 13:43:54
554.   yankz
Maybe he did it on purpose, a la Sheffield throwing away balls...
2007-08-02 13:44:15
555.   tommyl
549 Well, apparently no one wanted him. At this point I'd trade him for literally nothing. Just pay his contract.
2007-08-02 13:44:37
556.   OldYanksFan
543 I got 4.
1) Bench clearing brawls.
2) Somebody loses their glasses
3) Games with 8+ run leads
4) Bench clearing brawls.
2007-08-02 13:44:42
557.   Rob Middletown CT
Is Britton still hurt?
Edwar needs to come up.
Farnsworth should, at this point, be the last man in the 'pen, and dumped if possible.
2007-08-02 13:44:53
558.   williamnyy23
I'd rather keep Fransworth and fire Torre. Kyle can't bring himself into games.
2007-08-02 13:45:08
559.   Jeteupthemiddle
The Yankees can score 4 runs in 2 innings, right?


2007-08-02 13:45:18
560.   standuptriple
Does Farns even care? At least Proctor seemed liked he cared.
2007-08-02 13:46:05
561.   JohnnyC
554 I wouldn't put it past him. It's obvious he wants out. More fool the Yankees for continuing to pitch him in anything except a mop up role.
2007-08-02 13:46:17
562.   Raf
ChiSox bullpen, 1 run in 5+ IP. Inexcuseable
2007-08-02 13:46:52
563.   Jersey
559 Sure they can...they've only hit 356 home runs in the last two days. It ain't over until Kyle says it's over.
2007-08-02 13:47:17
564.   SF Yanks
335. SF Yanks
"As great as that 2nd inning was, why don't I have that warm fuzzy feeling that we're winning this game?"

I still maintain that feeling.

2007-08-02 13:47:48
565.   OldYanksFan
It looks like only ONE good thing can come of this game...
2007-08-02 13:48:02
566.   yankz
In all the excitement, I forgot that Posada had left. Just a wonderful day all around!
2007-08-02 13:48:04
567.   SF Yanks
ARod hit #500 here.
2007-08-02 13:48:12
568.   Chyll Will
542 I doubt enough people care to make the effort at this point. Sending Kyle in was Joe telling Cash in Freudian language, "Dude, you totally dropped the ball, seriously..."
2007-08-02 13:48:24
569.   Rob Middletown CT
I wish we could've kept Proctor and traded Farns, but other teams aren't THAT stupid.
2007-08-02 13:48:28
570.   williamnyy23
I wish one reporter in this city would have the courage to challenge Joe's lousy managing...tomorrow's banner should read "Joe Must Go", with a scathing column to go with it. Instead, all morons in the NY media are probably lining up to ghost write Joe's next book.
2007-08-02 13:48:30
571.   JeremyM
As good as the comeback was, it's disheartening that they've only managed one run against this awful bullpen.
2007-08-02 13:49:44
572.   Jeteupthemiddle
William, we get it, you don't like Torre.

You sound like a broken record.


2007-08-02 13:50:30
573.   pistolpete
SOMETHING good please come of this game. #500, DFA Farnsworth - either of those.
2007-08-02 13:50:53
574.   williamnyy23
572 It's not a matter of not liking's a matter of being tired of seeing this team dragged down by his dead weight. If a dead horse deserves to be's this one!
2007-08-02 13:50:56
575.   yankz
And it's hard to pin this one on Joe, not with Rocket and Scary not pitching well at all, and the offense suddenly getting shut down by these clowns.

Anyone watching WGN? How wet is Hawk?

2007-08-02 13:50:59
576.   Chyll Will
560 Yeah, at least Proctor was able to make something burst into flames when he tried.
2007-08-02 13:51:28
577.   pistolpete
Annnnnnnnnnnnnd that'll do it. (heads for the exit)
2007-08-02 13:51:48
578.   Shaun P
573 I'll take DFA'ing Farnsworth.

569 Think the Pirates would take him for a bag of balls? They are that stupid.

2007-08-02 13:52:44
579.   Shaun P
Oh sure - NOW Henn can pitch, seeing the Yanks are four runs down.

No way Torre could have brought Henn in in the 8th. Sigh.

2007-08-02 13:53:15
580.   tommyl
569 Anyone who trades Kazmir for Victor Zambrano is pretty stupid. Too bad Duquette and Phillips aren't still in the game.
2007-08-02 13:54:56
581.   standuptriple
CLE wins, BOS takes care of a weak-sister too. Did they post the out-of-town scores at Yankee Stadium today? Maybe they should show them to the bullpen, Clockwork Orange-style?
2007-08-02 13:55:32
582.   seattleyank
I wish Torre had thrown Farns back out there for the 9th just to spite him.
2007-08-02 13:56:25
583.   Chyll Will
578 Dust his F@#$in' A** Now!
2007-08-02 13:56:45
584.   JohnnyC
Well, it's the 9th inning and since there's no save opportunity, it pretty much doesn't matter who pitches, according to Torre's bullpen rotation. Now...the 8th inning...that's a whole 'nother matter, indeedy. Gotta throw them 8th inning guys in that there inning. No feeling around with the sixes and sevens (well maybe once in a while if the panic sets in, we'll consider using the closer). Makes life more bearable when you've got one of these here rotations.
2007-08-02 13:59:28
585.   JohnnyC
It's a chicken or egg question: did the 8th inning come along first or did pitchers that slotted into the 8th inning appear first. In the evolutionary saga that is.
2007-08-02 13:59:37
586.   Chyll Will
584 Yo man, that's the Formula...
2007-08-02 14:02:06
587.   standuptriple
Henn is perfect. Why am I not surprised?
2007-08-02 14:04:51
588.   JohnnyC
Apparently 8th inning pitchers (Homo Setupus) appeared first on the scene. Pretty much eons of pre-history went by before some accident of nature created the first 8th inning of a ballgame. (they used to only play 6 innings like in Little League) There was great celebration when the two concepts found each other. Fossil evidence shows that Joe Torre was the first manager to discover this principle of the natural order. I'm hoping to write up my research for Science.
2007-08-02 14:05:30
589.   Shaun P
Time for Jose to up his BFOG+, the way Betemit did.
2007-08-02 14:06:17
590.   standuptriple
Everybody sing the House $ song!
2007-08-02 14:06:37
591.   JohnnyC
No BFOG for him.
2007-08-02 14:07:33
592.   Shaun P
C'mon Robbie - do something good, please!
2007-08-02 14:09:18
593.   yankz
This team once came back from 6-0 with 2 outs in the 9th.
2007-08-02 14:09:37
594.   yankz
Never mind. What a great game.
2007-08-02 14:09:42
595.   Shaun P
592 That is NOT what I had in mind, Robbie.

I really hope that Farnsworth is gone, soon.

2007-08-02 14:10:51
596.   DougP
Too bad Betemit didn't fill in for Cano today. Then maybe all those unearned runs on Cano's error don't happen and it would have been a different ball game. Hindsight is 20/20.
2007-08-02 14:11:44
597.   OldYanksFan
Very depressing.
2007-08-02 14:16:02
598.   Shaun P
From Steven Goldman in today's Pinstriped Blog:

"As I wrote here and in the Sun, the Yankees are going to give Joe Torre options other than Kyle Farnsworth. If Torre is not willing to use those options and insists on riding Farnsworth then Torre should be let go. Now. Brian Cashman should put a direct question to him about it. If the answer isn't what he wants, he is obligated to make a change. With the wild card race tightening, there is every chance the Yankees can salvage the season. There is no excuse for sticking with a manager who would willfully throw that chance away on a miserable pitcher because he fears the unknown."

2007-08-02 14:18:25
599.   Shaun P
More from Goldman in the NY Sun:

I link and quote these things because he says what I'm thinking much better than I can say it.

2007-08-02 14:20:57
600.   Bob B
Fire Torre and just cut Farnsworth. Anyone willing to claim him and pay him money to pitch is flushing it down the toilet.........and the SOB had the gall to complain that Torre wasn't giving him enough work. What a joke! If it's true that we could have gotten Wickman in a deal for Farnsworth than Cashman should be included in the firings. What has he been looking at all season?
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2007-08-02 14:29:54
601.   Eric
600 Goldman used to like Torre quite a bit, but since last years playoff demise he has been on a "fire Torre kick"
2007-08-02 14:30:18
602.   yankz
600 Wickman sucks as well (league average, in the NL); just ask Braves fans about him. Not to mention, the Yanks would've had to pay all of Farns's contract (7M+) and all of Wickman's (I believe it's 3M). I'm not saying Farns should stay- there's no convincing argument for that whatsoever- just trying to say that, IMO, the Braves deal was far from a no-brainer. Pay 7M for Farns or 10M for Wickman?
2007-08-02 14:31:36
603.   Eric
last comment should have been599
2007-08-02 14:31:58
604.   yankz
601 It's not a kick. Goldman is the best at combining logic, reason, humor, and incredible writing ability. His arguments make a lot of sense.
2007-08-02 14:32:55
605.   Eric
602 how about just DFAing him and let him be someone elses headache
2007-08-02 14:34:46
606.   Eric
how strong was the booing for him, I had no acces to TV or radio?
2007-08-02 14:59:04
607.   tommyl

Steve Goldman seems to be coming around to the fire Torre now idea.

2007-08-02 15:00:42
608.   tommyl
607 Doh, didn't see the earlier comments. Sorry.
2007-08-02 15:03:46
609.   tommyl
I love this quote:

Damon may have rediscovered his stroke, but he'd have to discover the Fountain of Youth to play center field and throw the way Cabrera does. Cabrera is more a part of the team's future than either Damon or Giambi, and that future has to be protected. And heaven help the Yankees if Doug Mientkiewicz ever comes off the disabled list. The team will snap back to its April form so fast that fans will feel like they should be preparing their income taxes.

2007-08-02 15:36:20
610.   cult of basebaal
love this exchange between petey and worthless:

Here's how my postgame interview with Kyle Farnsworth went:

Me: Kyle, got a minute to talk?

Kyle: About what?

Me: The game.

Kyle: We lost.

(Walks into bathroom)

Me: Um …

Thus ended one great moment in journalism.

2007-08-02 15:41:57
611.   Shaun P
610 Pete Abe does do a nice job with the interviews. Wish he had posted the audio of that. =)

608 No worries. Now that we're going to 611 comments, the earlier stuff will disappear anyway.

2007-08-02 15:56:44
612.   Mattpat11
I can't say how overjoyed I am that we held out for value on that Farnsworth trade.
2007-08-02 16:13:20
613.   RIYank
606 Eric, it was No Doubter boo-age.

I'm reallllllly looking forward to Joba, dudes (and dudettes).

Yo, Kyle, check out that big Indian sauntering up the driveway. What's that all about, cowboy?

Kyle lifts the brim of his hat. He stands up, his thumbs hitched in his belt, a toothpick sticking out of his mouth...

2007-08-02 16:16:37
614.   Chyll Will
Stupid Question #1: Does Joe decide completely on his own who is pitching in a given inning, or does he get encouragement and/or advice from his coaches?
2007-08-02 16:21:30
615.   RIYank
614 I dunno. But you're going to get the natives riled up again.

We're supposed to score more than one run against the White Sox' bullpen in seven innings. Right?
Today's Farns appearance was a good thing. It has buried him. Farns is done.

But what happened to Jorge?

2007-08-02 17:10:54
616.   RIYank
Okay, I got the scoop at LoHud. Whew. Ab out Jorge, I mean.
2007-08-02 17:24:57
617.   monkeypants
617 Today was kinda stinky, but there were a few positives (lemons-->lemonade, people):

1. Offense still scored a ton

2. Betemit started at SS and smacked the ball a couple of times, inching Cairo closer to the door.

3. Farnsworth was used properly (not in very high leverage situation), and he predictably stunk it up. Thus perhaps moving him closer to DFA.

Hey, it's better than nothing.

2007-08-02 17:56:27
618.   Chyll Will
615 Yeah, I know, that's why I prefaced it as "Stupid Question" >;) But I won't rattle the cages (I've got a place for that now), I'm just as bewildered as everyone else about Farns' continued presence and Torre's... well, never mind.
2007-08-02 17:57:37
619.   RIYank
617 Also, monkeypants referred to his own entry, so that was fun for me.
2007-08-02 18:17:03
620.   Chyll Will
619 "I talk to myself, cuz there is no one to talk to/ People often ask me why I do what I do..."

In other words, "cricket, cricket..." >;)

2007-08-02 18:55:41
621.   monkeypants
619 I aim to please.
2007-08-02 19:23:17
622.   Shaun P
614 615 617 622 I'm not trying to rile up anyone, and I don't have my own cool Serious ;) place to vent - and I know it isn't his way to throw anyone under the bus in public (except A-Rod in SI last year) - but this is just ridiculous:

"Joe Torre on Krazy Kyle: "There's a good arm there; he knows how to pitch. We just need to get him more comfortable. I still believe Farnsworth is going to be a contributor to this."" (More good stuff from Pete Abe.)

I don't know what's worse - that Joe might believe that last sentence himself, or that he choose to lie even though everyone knows its a lie. I hope and pray its the second one. Because if the Yanks don't have time to make use of some of the kids, they sure as hell don't have time to set Farnsworth straight.

2007-08-02 19:51:49
623.   yankz
623 Is referring to your own comment the cool thing to do now?
2007-08-02 20:26:43
624.   Shaun P
623 Third time's the charm.
2007-08-02 20:50:51
625.   JL25and3
I don't know if someone's commented on this before but: Love the headline, Alex. Whatta they got that I ain't got?
2007-08-02 20:53:13
626.   Vandelay Industries
It is rather amusing that during the pregame Joe specifically said he wants to get Betemit involved. Why does he not express this same sentiment with pitchers?
2007-08-02 23:21:39
627.   BklynBmr
626 Catchers have little regard for pitchers.

Speaking of catchers, anyone have the latest on Jesus Montero? I'm reading he's a better bet for first base if he can reach the bigs. Which is not bad thing if we're talking '09-ish...

2007-08-03 03:34:45
628.   JL25and3
627 He's still only 17 and playing in a short-season rookie league - hitting .261/.327/.457 in 46 AB. Right now the odds are probably against his getting to AA sometime in the '09 season.
2007-08-03 04:13:25
629.   RIYank
622 Wow. That really is delusional.
(Uh, not you, Shaun, I mean Joe, of course.)

Yeah, I hope this is some weird way of softening the blow when Joe has Gator take Kyle out to a River Ave. back alley and shoot him.

Oh, good, I love posting at the end of a thread early in the morning, so a new thread will go up and nobody will ever read this.

2007-08-03 04:15:46
630.   OldYanksFan
627 Good hitting 1st basemen aren't exactly a dime-a-dozen but.... isn't the guy MUCH more valuable at Catcher if he can be at least league average on D?

Although... I don't know how big his is, but really big guys don't last as a catcher.

Man... I'm still hurtin' from yesterday's game. I hope Joe is preping our rotation for Cleveland. We really shouldn't be throwing our #4 or #5 at them. Those 3 games are VERY big.

2007-08-03 05:44:29
631.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Unless Jesus is beyond special, expecting him before 2010 is really way too optimistic (unless it means the Yankese sucking so much that they hold a massive firesale and bring everyone up, dowbt it though) we almost definately will need another catcher between him (if he even makes it) and Jorge... unless Jorge is Carlton Fisk. (there's a chance.. but lets not bet on it.)

the most promising catching prospect we have now is probably Francisco Cervelli, he's doing pretty well as a 21 year old in A+, he's hitting for decent average and walking a ton, not showing much pop though (though that's not exactly a crime for a 21 year old in the FSL)

2007-08-03 05:55:36
632.   KJC
622 Perhaps Joe is just trying to get the word out that Kyle doesn't really suck (despite proof otherwise) and that other teams would be wise to trade for him?
2007-08-03 06:15:16
633.   seamus
What do you all expect Torre to say? "I really don't think he can do it. There is no way he can get it done."

You can tell a lot about what he says if you remember that he isn't going to tell the press that his players suck, but he also is often understated about their achievements. In other words, Torre intentionally leaves a certain amount of cloudindess to cover the club's internal feelings on a subject.

2007-08-03 07:01:03
634.   Shaun P
632 I don't think even Dave Littlefield is that stupid. And clearly no one is that desperate either - or he would have been traded by now.

633 "I think Kyle has it in him to improve. He's a good pitcher and has done some very good things for us. Hopefully he gets back to doing that soon."

Why does he have to suggest that Kyle will be a contributor? That's what I don't get.

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