Chris Basak is like early Darko Milicic. A human victory cigar.

1 Money!

A-Rod only homers in blowouts.

I told a coworker of mine (who is a big Mets fan) the day after the "Ha!" incident:

You watch - a couple of months from now, the Yankees will be right in the thick of the race and everyone is going to look back and say that was the moment -- that was when they turned their season around. On a little league play by the highest paid player in the game.

Eleven games does not a turnaround make, but I'm sticking to that. Right about now, the Tigers, Mariners and A's are all checking the rear view mirror and they can see a big semi rolling right up behind them. The Sox fans never stopped checking...even when it was 14.5. ;-)

I actually believe this week will be the real test - Webb on Tuesday could be rhythm-breaking and we need to get at least 2 out of 3, and another 2 out of 3 this weekend to keep it going. If we can't do it while Abreu and Alex are locked in, we'll never get it done.

Wang vs Webb..Could be interesting.

4 I think the Abreu-A-Rod connection is fascinating. Without having looked at the numbers, they do seem to feed off each other. I wonder if that will make the Yanks more inclined to pick up Abreu's option, to try to convince A-Rod to stay?

I also wonder if the numbers do match up, but I don't have time to look now.

Not that I'm thinking the Yankees will catch the Red Sox, but the team did pick up four games on them over the last ten. 8-2 vs. 4-6, let's hope that trend continues.

4 I'm with you, but its not the wildcard. Of course, it won't be without the Red Sox help, but they always blunder and find a way to lose the lead.

Everyone always says its about the pitching, but with the Yanks potent offense, its about scoring five or more runs every game and getting alright pitching.

8 One would think the kind of pitching the Yankees' been getting from Wang and Pettitte is more than alright. However, if you were talking about the pitching on average, then perhaps you were right.

9 Considering how well they have pitched, which I agree has been great, its unbelievable to see how mediocre their records look. Just shows you how important the offense is in this type of team not to mention some semblance of middle relief!

8 "[The Red Sox] always blunder and find a way to lose the lead."

Really? I'm not counting the Yanks out (of the wildcard or the AL East) but Bucky Dent and Bill Buckner have long since retired...

11 What about last year's team? A lot of players returned, right? Same players who went 8-21 in August?

4 Hey, it's not the BB rallying cry for nothing!

HA!

1213 Exactly - HA!

11 I'm not so worried about who's on the team, but whether they'll have enough gas in the tank come August. The way Torre is using the bullpen, their arms will fall off shortly after the all-star break. And has anyone noticed that Abreu and A-Rod haven't had a full game off and Jeter and Cano have only had one. Meanwhile, yesterday was Jorge's first full day off in a month and he's on pace for about 100 more ABs than he had in each of the last 3 years. Cairo and Nieves are on pace to get only 100 ABs each and who knows if Basak will even get dirt on his shoes unless there's a blow out in progress. Torre won't play them as much as maybe he would have done with Flaherty or Bernie or Phillips in years past. And that means the rest of the team is going to get awful tired through July. Cashman better get that phone working.

15 if i were ca$hman, i'd hope that the team kept up the current pace for another week or two. it might help him get a better deal as far as trades go.

if they tank, other GMs will smell desperation on him. let them climb back into the race... or at least climb closer if possible... then land the pieces needed to spell the guys who will need a day off or 12.

meanwhile we just need to cross our fingers and hope that everyone can maintain their current workload until then.

15 "Cairo and Nieves are on pace to get only 100 ABs each and who knows if Basak will even get dirt on his shoes unless there's a blow out in progress."

First, is this a bad thing?

Second, now that Cairo is the starting 1B, the pace of ABs will increase dramatically (though in reference to your main point, his ABs will come at teh expense of Phelps, not in order to rest Jeter, Cano, or A-Rod.

"Cashman better get that phone working."

Yes--to get a real 1B or at least credible benchers. Or maybe even to carry a back-up OF who can actually, you know, play in the OF (not just DH).

17 a young back up backstop that could hit would be nice... but i'm probably hoping for too much.

Local radio here in NY, specifically Roberts and Beningo, are severely downplaying the Clemens start - 6IP, 3 runs in their opinion does not make a good start. 'Mediocre at best' was the exact quote, I believe...

Really? I thought that line was the very definition of a 'quality start'.

Granted this is coming from two Mets fans who STILL haven't gotten over the Piazza stuff.

19 The line on Clemens you mention leaves out the 7K's which is nothing to scoff at. He got a little deep in counts and threw too many pitches for just 6 innings, but it was his start of the year.

Based on my theory of score 5 or more and get alright pitching, I'd say, it was just right?

20 meant "it his first start of the year"

19 Perhaps they meant he hasn't faced a quality lineup or at least one without a pitcher in it. I thought he did fine, but would definitely like to see more before saying that he is the Clemens we are expecting to see.

22 Maybe I'm being a little pessimistic, but that's the Clemens I expected to see his first start out. That was basically a mostly better than league-average start for Rocket (4.50 ERA, 7.5 H/9, 3 BB/9, 10.5 K/9, 0 HR/9, 1.17 WHIP vs AL league average (according to BP) of 4.41 ERA, 9.14 H/9, 3.38 BB/9, 6.40 K/9, 1.01 HR/9, 1.39 WHIP).

I expect the ERA will go down some, and probably the K/9 rate too, but if Rocket keeps that up all year, I'll be very happy. To expect Roger to have an ERA in the lows 2 is not realistic, IMHO - this is the AL, after all.

23 I don't see how that's pessimistic. In fact, it was pretty much exactly what was expected, so it's a success based on that alone. Perhaps we've (the coaching staff and fans, not the economic fundamentalists) finally realized that there is reason to temper our expectations (Randy, Matsuzaka, etc.) and go easy on him, all things considered. I don't expect Clemens to be Cy Youngish even in July, so these results are positive. I'll be happy to see him match a consistently realistic set of benchmarks in the next three outings without injury. Who does he potentially pitch against in those games?

8 A couple of weeks ago I was thinking that this Red Sox team might be heading for a Yankees-circa-'98 like season but I now feel dramatically different...and I think its because I was coming to that initial conclusion from a strictly emotional perspective. On further examination, I see a Red Sox team that is not without it's major flaws. Lugo has been dismal, Drew has been unimpressive at best, and their pen is mediocre beyond Papelbon and Okajima.

They have been living a charmed life in regards to health but no team goes an entire season without suffering a major injury or two, especially in this day and age when it seems like every tom, dick and harry is going down with a hamstring injury.

Wakefield is 40+, Schilling is 44, Beckett is a finger blister away from the DL, and Dice-K is on pace to throw the second most innings of his career. At this pace -- and as long as Francona continues to let him throw 120 pitches like he did yesterday -- then his effectiveness will suffer in a new league and new country.

As long as the Yanks keep it relatively close by the All Star Break, the bad luck and injuries suffered by the Yanks and the charmed life of the Sox will even themselves out.

The most encouraging thing about yesterday's game is that Posada finally got a full day off.

I know its the White Sox and Pirates, but a win is a win is a win.

In honor of The Sopranos finale last night, I think the new theme song for the 2007 Yankees should be "Dont Stop Believing" by Journey. I cant get that song out of my head today.

"Dont Stop Believin!"

wow. mike and the angry puppy just revealed an enormous stat from yesterdays game...

in 5 at bats, bobby abreu saw 45 pitches.

that is staggering!

Texas gets Melhuse for PTBNL. Where you at Cash? Nieves have some pictures of you going into a strip club or something?
Jim Dean, I know you hear what I'm talkin' about.

27 Coincidentally, Scott Long mentioned that song in his latest Juice post long before the Sopranos finale aired; which seemed like a great big "No, f@#$ YOU!!!" from Mr. Chase. Glad I don't watch Sopranos enough to be a fan, I found that rather amusing...

Speaking of amusing, whenever I think of Journey, I think of how much better The Cars always seemed to be. Am I wrong for that?

28 If Bobby can do that to Schilling next time they face each other, Schilling's head might explode. Wowzers, something to look forward to!

29 Their lining up their ducks. You watch, PTBNL will come out of Trenton somehow...

29 and while melhuse might be an upgrade over Nieves, do you really want melhuse? Is that really someone who will stop the complaining about BUC? I don't think so.

30 Journey sucks. Nearly everyone sounds better when compared to them.

I still haven't seen minute one of the Sopranos, but then again I'm too cheap to shell out for HBO.

Journey does suck. But my 3 year old son knows almost all the words to that song. He sings it from his soul, too. It's a truly frightening act. Luckily for his parents, other favorites include James Brown and Led Zep. But now, untill I die, I'll be willing to hold on to that feelin'...

27 "don't stop believin'" can't be the yankees' theme song (thank goodness.) at the end of the white sox's world series victory parade, when everyone was on a stage, taking turns at the microphone, steve perry somehow appeared, grabbed a hand of a sox player in each of his, and decided he'd sing an accapella version of the song.

it was very uncomfortable to watch. i had to rid that memory from my mind last night as i watched the finale. i hate steve perry for invading that moment. ...jerk.

30 the cars were a solid group. word.

35 Yeah - what you said. Nothing scarier than hearing AJ Pierz-what's-his-name trying to sing. Sent a shudder of terror down my spine.
Cars were one of my favorites too. R.I.P Ben Orr...

No record collection is complete without Journey's Greatest Hits and the first Cars album.

You can go deeper than that with the Cars (a hits comp is probably a must as well), but not with Journey. Those going deeper with the Cars should proceed to Candy-O, Heartbeat City, and Shake It Up in that order.

35,36 According to Wikipedia, the whole thing with that started when Joe Crede and A.J. Pierzynski "went to a bar and screamed "Play some freakin' Journey!" to a bad lounge singer." Implied, the Steve Perry a capella was a scripted moment.

On the other hand, Pierzinski singing was just salt in the wound; not uncommon for him apparently...

Addedum to my post 36 - I have a confession - my first "rock" concert ever was Journey & Bryan Adams waaaay back in 1983. March 1983 to be exact. Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in lovely downtown Uniondale, NY.

I was 15...I didn't know any better. I was a lemming following the masses off the cliff!

Bryan Adams kicked ass tho'!

okay, i wasn't gonna chime in on this, but i have to defend Journey's honor! this group goes waaaaay beyond the radio friendly hits that most consider to be cheesefrog.

journey actually started out in the mid 70's as an instrumental fusion act with zero aspirations to be popular. they were on Columbia records b/c the core of the group had come from Santana and were breaking out on their own. they added Frank Zappa's drummer and eventually replaced him with Jean Luc Ponty's. we are talking about some serious, serious, accomplished musicians/players.

they were a major force live. recently there's been a great and cheap cd/dvd release of the Escape tour. it was originally aired as (i think) the 1st MTV live concert, in 1981. steve perry might be a jerk and pale hose fan, but he has one of the best male voices in rock. ever.

journey found a niche with the AOR-type songs and followed that formula to superstardom. it afforded them a plethora of opportunities in the music industry, collectively and individually, that they're still riding 25+ years later.

the song "Don't Stop Believin'" is big in the drummers' world. steve smith, is one of the greatest drummers of all-time. he's not a "rock" guy, nor does he care much for Journey, but like i alluded to before, his time in the group has done wonders for his career, which is mostly firmed in jazz/fusion music.

on the song in question, he satisfies the layperson (and record company!) by laying down 1/4 notes on the kick drum (commonly known as "4 on the floor"), and plays a left-hand lead on the hi-hat. this opens up his right hand to play cool melodies between the bell of the ride and toms. this was very creative and innovative for 1981!

journey did a great job of satisfying the masses and staying true to their musicianship by varying their tempos, feels, dynamics and excellent arrangement skills, not to mention solid songwriting, amazing vocals & harmonies and powerful live performances.

right around the time that the main hits were being put out (Escape, Frontiers), they released a little known record in Japan only (since reissued here) - a soundtrack Dream, After Dream, which was mostly instrumental and had lots of Classical music in there. Neal Schon, founding member, is the son of a symphony conductor, who worked on that record, as well.

Journey is a very important act in RnR, waaaay deeper than anything the Cars can claim, not that i'm dissing the cars. and not that i listen to journey all the time either - it's just that they're GREAT!!!

k, sorry bout all that. end rant //

40 their video game was fun.

I always thought Journey, Rush, and REO Speedwagon were the same band.

Even last night, watching "The Sopranos" I thought "Don't Stop Believing" was REO Speedwagon, or Rush until my wife set me straight.

My wife probably couldn't distinguish a Bob Dylan tune from a Beatles song, but she could name that Journey joint in about 5 notes.

41 remember the KISS pinball game? that was cool, too!

42 That's funny, I was going to mention REO Speedwagon, but was thinking the same thing >;)

42 that's too funny, 'coz when i was a kid - before i knew about all these groups -i always thought Journey and Foreigner were the same band. i also got confused with Rush and Yes, til i became big fans of both...

42 44 hmph. i wouldn't have grouped rush in with journey, but when using the 'wagon as an intermediary and taking into account the prog beginnings as cited earlier ( 40 ), i definitely could hear that.

i never would've expected a discussion of the finer points of reo speedwagon, journey and rush taking place today.

off days sure are strange...

43 i never played the kiss pinball game, but it sure looked bad. ...as in good.

40...oh yeah, and one more confession. I also saw Journey last summer when they double-headlined with Def Leppard.

Rise up, gather 'round
Rock this place to the ground
Burn it up, let's go for broke
Watch the night go up in smoke
Rock on...ROCK ON
Drive me crazier
No serenade, no fire brigade
Just-a Pyromania!!!

43 I was scared of that as a kid...

46 Well, what are ya gonna do? Right now I'm making frightening musical compilations and analogies in my mind... for example, try to imagine a remix compilation of Journey's greatest hits by Prince Paul (though I imagine Dangermouse vs. Bryan Adams is more likely...) Early Chicago or Genesis remixed by Hank Shocklee? Rick Rubin tackles Men at Work??

48 Okay, I apologize if I just caused some paradigms to shift without a clutch... (cricket, cricket...)

48 steve albini reworking prince's purplr rain album would be interesting... this should occupy my time until 5 PM...

If you're going to talk tunes from the 1981 era, you guys are leaving out Styx, who did the song that was the senior prom theme song for something like 2/3 of the country that year. Although thank god not my h.s.

For all of the late 1970s stuff I hear coming out of jukes these days when the college kids are showing off their "musicology", I am so happy that they are not playing REO or Styx. Hard to be believe that I'd be saying this almost 30 years later, but AC/DC seems to have stood the test of time a lot better.

But unfortunately my favorite bartender has discovered Toto and has Africa on her iPod rotation when she plugs it into the sound system.

51 toto was portrayed in a "yacht rock" video, which might have touched off a mild rediscovery period.

i highly recommend watching all of these clips if you've yet to do so.

http://tinyurl.com/avno6

brilliant stuff.

all your early '80s stars are there... you've got your christopher cross, your hall & oates, michael mcdonald & the doobies, and the incomparable kenny loggins.

51 Oh gawd, not Silver, Blue & Gold. Shudder.

I can't lump Rush in with the others (especially lyrically), but Journey, Styx and REO, ugh.

And when I first heard them on the radio, I'd mix up Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers with Cheap Trick but Petty & crew have certainly gotten lots better.

So any truth to the rumor that Proctor's getting sent to Trenton for the day, just so he can get some work in?

51 I know for my part, the omission of Styx was pondered and decided deliberately >;) Yet AC/DC crosses a lot of streets, even in my nabe. And I liked Toto's Africa, even if I do picture comedian Stephen Wright's version whenever I hear it. Peter Gabriel would have lit it up, though...

I'm definitely going with that junk RLYW posts every night as the theme song for the season.

51 Maybe because AC/DC wasn't for wussies? ;-)

I apologize for turning this discussion into a debate on the merits of Journey. To be honest, I am by no means a big fan of Journey, BUT I HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO GET IT OUTTA MY HEAD ALL DAY! My co-worker in the office next to me is getting pissed because I have it on repeat on my little computer speakers.

I am of the firm opionion, however, that the way the song was used last night in the Sopranos was very cool. And yes, I am one of the few people that actually enjoyed the ending.

I am unofficially annointing "Dont Stop Believing" by Journey as the unofficial theme song of the 2007 Yankees.

Nobody can stop me.

The damage has already been done.

I am willing to deal with the consequences.

57 may i stop you?

i've been humming it around the water cooler all day.

the receptionist wants to kill me.

and no, you cannot stop me.

59 oh well... just thought i'd ask. thanks.

58 May I join you?

59 C'mon man; he ain't gonna give up, neither should we >;)

57 I believe the folks over at RLYW (and Mike and the Mechanics) may have something to say about that (as yankz alludes to in 55).

Wow, 80s day at the Banter.

53 Just wait until the NY-Penn League season starts. Proctor can go get early work in with the kids at Staten Island, and then be back in the Bronx in time for the Yankee game. He'll be in heaven, I'm sure - or at least his arm will be. ;)

62 He never said he wouldn't give up, only that he wouldn't stop believing.

Big difference.

59 Maybe if you hummed "Open Arms"?

61 if that makes a difference, please do. by all means.

65 ouch. that caused physical pain. in the temples.

I may bust out an accapella version of it on the subway back home.

Nobody take the F or V around 6pm to 2nd Ave.

I might just serenade you with JOURNEY!

ps...the real question is, will you throw a dollar in the hat?

again,i offer up these hilarious video clips:

http://tinyurl.com/avno6

i'd be willing to accept any song from these.

(before that other one, anyway.)

crap. i just remembered that steve perry is portrayed in one of these, too...

ugh...

67 Sorry.

It's on the "Heavy Metal" soundtrack, so it's the one Journey tune that I end up hearing a fair amount even these days.

I'll just go back to working in the coal mine.

68 "I may bust out an accapella version of it on the subway back home.

Nobody take the F or V around 6pm to 2nd Ave."

alright. if you actually do that, please record it and share it with us here.

i'd embrace the idea then. if you feel that strongly about it, how could i not?

After my initial WTF moment, I have decided that I loved the ending of the Sopranos. I think Tony was wacked unless years from now Gandolfini's career is stagnant and he needs the money so he agrees to to a movie. In the meanwhile, I live with the memory of Phil Leotardo getting wacked and crushed and that A.J. is a spoilt brat.

To the Bronx Banter crew, I say:

Don't stop believin'
Hold on to the feelin'
Streetlight people

68 I'd toss you a dollar.

72 i liked the ending. it was great. i'll miss the hell out of that show.

56 I know. KRS-ONE and Scott La Rock convinced me a long time ago >;)

64 Take a look at his screen name and you'll know what I mean >;)

I, too, have never seen a minute of The Sopranos.

73 I'd toss him somewhere else...

77 I saw exactly three minutes of it. Loved the movie stylings, not the show itself. But hey, I do not hate anyone for loving it.

Finally I get some work. So, I'll see you all later on >;)

77 i recommend renting the dvds... i was uninitiated and did so... i ended up watching the entire first season in a weekend.

i wasn't expecting to like it at all, but i was hooked instantaneously.

70 Don't hum that one, either.

Yankee Fan In Boston,

It must be torture up there in beantown these days? I lived up in Back Bay for a few years, but that was during the good old days when Sox fans would see a Yankee hat and they were immediately put in their place.

Imagine if I pulled my Journey stunt up there in beantown? I'd get my ass kicked twice. Once for wearing a Yankee hat, and again for wearing a yankee hat while singing a Journey song.

Damn it...I CANT SHAKE THIS SONG!

77 Ditto - except for when I saw the ending on TV this morning. Is David Chase maybe a White Sox fan? I understand the music for Sopranos episodes has always been picked with care. I haven't been able to not think of the White Sox when I've heard that Journey song.

57 I've already annointed "Rise Above" by Black Flag as the theme song for the 2007 Yankees. Get out of the gate a little earlier next year.

84 an old bay area thrash metal band called Evildead covered "Rise Above" back in '88. even named an ep of theirs after it.

68 Fortunately for you (or perhaps for me...tee-hee) is that I take the F train in the other direction to go home!

83 I think the music was picked with care, taking into account the lyrics:

Working hard to get my fill,
Everybody wants a thrill
Payin' anything to roll the dice,
Just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on

I think Chase whacked the audience but not Tony. We never saw it coming and everything went black.

All of the characters (movie/show) "never end" and "goes on and on and on and on..."

We just can't watch anymore...

39 Hey, Abby, I'll go you one better. I don't know why I'm admitting this, but I saw Debbie Gibson in concert probably around 1988 when I was 15. It was at Jones Beach and I allowed myself to get dragged along with a couple of friends and of course, there were girls involved. God, what a terrible concert.

The highlight, though, was when my friend lit up a joint, much to the horror of the moms of the preteens around us. I don't quite remember what happened, but I seem to recall there was an usher involved.

If it's at all possible, I think the "music" was even worse under the influence.

So there it is.

[88} Hopped up at a Debbie Gibson concert. Now that's funny.

51 Silver Blue and Gold is by Bad Company. Can't diss Paul Rodgers ever, ever, ever.

82 Maybe you should try singing it all the way through once, like Cartman had to with Come Sail Away.

88 Awesome.

You totally get a pass now on your irrational admiration for Miguel Cairo.

Man, I hate off days.

93 Off-days on Banter are like, totally-awesome, duude...

28 That stat (Abreu saw 45 pitches yesterday) sounded unbelievable, so I checked: he saw 35 in his 5 appearances. (9 for the triple, seven for the first single, 5 for the second single, seven for the walk, seven for the double.)

Considering your source, NotGiving, it's not all that surprising that the stat wasn't right. Not to take anything away from Abreu -- 35 pitches is very impressive for one day!

(Anyone wanna hear what I think wsporter's name means?)

96 I'm going with W.S. Porter. What's your theory?

96 me me me me meeeeeeee!

It's funny that A-Rod's "Little League" play came about just when I came about this theory...

96 I do !!!!!

96 YES!!!

100... and you did mention during a thread some months ago that you live (or lived) in and around Baltimore, MD.

With your innate statistical skills and focus on fundamentals, not to mention your Mondrian (or Eliasstical as the case may be) recall of events, not to mention it's relative closeness in geography, I gather that you either are from, or are a strong supporter and admirer of a renowned event in Williamsport, PA ...

Wsporter is short for William sporter!

97 It was "One Dollars Worth" what drove me to law school.

Picking a name for this site is, I believe, a weighty decision and nothing that should be undertaken without some thought. When I was a child it took me years to learn to read. The Gift of the Maji was the first story I ever read in full. I have always held W.S.Porter or O'Henry in high esteem and identified with his strugle against self inflicted wounds. Besides I just liked the sound of wsporter. It was either that or hhmunro but that somehow seemed to obvious and way to british for my liking. Besides the Henry Aaron double entendre was hard to pass up.

So at long last I am unmasked. When I return it will not be as me. A tip of my cap to thee, Yankz.

103 How romantic! Congrats, Yankz! (turns and emphatically erases the chalkboard, then trudges outside to clap the erasers... again...)

Wow Chyll, interesting theory, but mmmmmmmmmno.

105 {cough-cough} though I did live in Ossining when I was a baby, Columbo I ain't {cough} besides, his reason is much better.

102 Chyll I can't believe you called me a cubist! Why? What have I ever done? That's it, I really am outa here now.

I am so awesome!!!!

103 Totally awesome. I went through a major O. Henry obsession: the summer after college, I was couch surfing and ended up apartment sitting on 18th street. The place was just a block away from Pete's Tavern, where O. Henry was a regular back in the day and wrote a bunch of stories, including, I think, the Gift of the Magi. They've even got a sign above the actual booth (or the supposed booth, I guess, but I chose to believe them and sat there all the time). Anyway, he had an absolutely fascinating life -- convicted of embezzlement, possibly falsely, fled to Honduras, returned home to be with his dying wife, went to prison, starting writing, became a massive celebrity under a pen name, lied shamelessly in interviews ("I then went to Honduras to help a friend scout fruit tree plantations!"), slowly drank himself to death.

Very long-winded way of saying "nice screen name," but hey, it's an off-day.

107 I apologize; I figured you were too modest for Picasso or Tolousse-Lautrec (I don't take you as an impressionist), besides being cubist means you look at everything! I also figured Rockwell would be a backhanded compliment, and I don't know what you might think if I said Jackson Pollock. Forgive me?

103 MFD, at long last unmasked. Thanks for sharing the story.

88 Dude, you win! Oh...WAIT!!! I got one more!!

I just remembered that I saw Sha-Na-Na when I was about 8 years old at Westbury Music Fair! (Seriously, I did...I cannot make this up!!!)
Good God, I can't believe I forgot about that one (maybe I blocked it out???) Remember those guys???

112 (sigh) I saw Sha-Na-Na at the Dutchess County Fair a few years back. I wanted to run away, but the so-called friend I was with instisted on staying for at least one song for the high camp. I ended up hitchiking back to the train station for home. If it wasn't for the fact that I grew up in that area, I'd probably still be lost... I feel your pain Abby; though yours is more deep-seeded >;)