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2007-05-01 23:06
by Cliff Corcoran

It's just been that kind of year for the New York Yankees.

The Bombers bust out with ten runs against the Rangers last night, driving Kameron Loe from the game in the fifth. Jorge Posada and Robinson Cano had the big days, both picking up a pair of doubles (the Yanks had six on the night), Jorge going 3 for 4 with a walk, 2 RBIs and 3 runs scored, Cano going 4 for 5 with 3 RBIs and 2 runs scored. Every Yankee starter reached base at least once. That includes the slumping Bobby Abreu (1 for 6), who moved to the leadoff spot in place of Johnny Damon, who got an extra day off following four chiropractic sessons and says he's feeling great, and Doug Mientkiewicz (1 for 5, RBI).

While all that was going on, Phil Hughes was carving up the Texas Rangers' lineup in just his second major league start. Hughes walked Kenny Lofton to start the game after getting ahead of him 0-2, but erased him on a double play off the bat of Michael Young and struck out Mark Teixeira. In the second, he walked Hank Blalock only to erase him on a double play as well, this one off the bat of the hot-hitting Ian Kinsler. Hughes didn't allow a ball out of the infield until Blalock's fly out for the second out of the fifth, and faced the minimum until he walked Kinsler following Blalock's fly out. Along the way he simply dominated. He started the second by striking out Victor Diaz (just called up from triple-A to take the place of the just-DLed Frank Catalanotto) on a wicked curve ball that literally dropped from Diaz's nose to his toes (it's the first pitch shown in this ESPN highlight clip). He then started the third by pumping three fastballs past Brad Wilkerson. Hughes had been 0-2 on the two hitters he walked in the first two innings and when he got Wilkerson 0-2 he shook off Posada to get the fastball, sending Wilkerson back to the bench on three pitches. His fastball was clocked at 91-92 miles per hour by the YES gun, but had explosive late movement. That heater, the wicked curve, and his change combined to give Hughes six strikeouts through 6 1/3 efficient innings (83 pitches, 64 percent strikes).

Put simply, Hughes had no-hit stuff last night. Indeed, he didn't allow a hit through those 6 1/3 innings. Then, with one out in the seventh and two strikes on Teixeira, Hughes reached back to break off an extra wicked curve ball, overextending as he followed through on the delivery, and felt his left hamstring pop.

That was it for Hughes no-hit bid. Hughes was removed from the game at that point and said after the game that there was no way he could have throw another pitch. He'll remain with the team for the rest of this short three-game road trip and likely get an MRI when they return to New York, but a trip to the disabled list is a certainty. The ESPN highlight linked above says Hughes will be out four to six weeks, though I'm not sure where they got that information. Peter Abraham thinks it will be a couple of months. Obviously, the Yankees won't be able to wager a guess themselves until Hughes gets his MRI.

The loss of Hughes is a blow to the rotation considering the fact that he was already delivering on his promise in just his second major league start, but in a twisted way this injury could be a good thing in the long run. Certainly the Yankees are lucky that it was Hughes' hamstring and not anything in his right arm that went pop, and having him spend most of the next two months on the DL could go a long way toward protecting that right arm. Brian Cashman had said before the game that Hughes was in the major league rotation to stay; that his development would continue at the major league level. That's a frightening change of plans regarding a 20-year-old pitcher who could be the most important asset this franchise has. Now, Hughes' hamstring will force the Yankees to bring him back along more slowly, and will limit his aggregate innings pitched to a reasonable total rather than the 200-plus he could have thrown if left in the rotation for the remainder of the season.

I'm not saying I'm glad that Hughes is injured. Certainly you don't want to see a young player hurt, and hamstrings have a habit of reoccurring, so you certainly don't want to see that pattern develop in any player, particularly one as important as Hughes. I do think, however, that the injury will protect Hughes from the team's desperation to overuse him this season, and I look forward to seeing more performances like last night's once he returns to the rotation, which hopefully will happen by the All-Star break at the absolute latest.

In the meantime, with Mike Mussina coming back on Thursday and Kei Igawa installed back in the rotation after his tremendous emergency performance on Saturday, the Yankees can turn to Darrell Rasner or, as Abraham suggests, Matt DeSalvo to fill the fifth spot in the rotation while Hughes (and Carl Pavano, of course) is on the shelf (of course, DeSalvo isn't on the 40-man roster right now).

As for the no-hitter, Mike Myers finished the seventh without incident, but blew the no-hitter and the shutout in the eighth. Still, thanks to another double play, the Rangers sent just 29 batters to the plate on the night, falling to the Yankees by the final score of 10-1. Luis Vizcaino finished the game in the ninth, marking just the third time all season that the Yankees completed a game with just three pitchers (the other two times both coming in their first road series in Minnesota in games started by Andy Pettite and, yes, Carl Pavano).

Really, everything that needed to go right for the Yankees last night did, with one glaring exception.

In other news, Chien-Ming Wang, who was hampered by a broken nail in his last start, will throw a bullpen today which will determine if he'll be able to make his scheduled start on Saturday. The Yankees expect he will indeed take his turn. More importantly, Bobby Murcer made a triumphent return to the YES booth last night, and Frank Torre has received his kidney transplant. Both Frank and his daughter, who donated the kidney, are doing well.

Comments (83)
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2007-05-02 00:07:03
1.   yankz
Dude, that pitch was...wow. PHILTHY.

I'm still depressed.

Now I'm worried that Phenom will only get about 150 IP, which would slow his development.

2007-05-02 00:39:00
2.   Hank
This really sucks. Watching the game tonight I kept wondering when the last time was that I watched a Yankee starting pitcher dominate like this. Even with Mussina's near-miss in Fenway, and Boomer and Coney before that, the best I could come up with was the Clemens one-hitter against Seattle in the '00 (or was it '99?) ALCS.

Hughes was that good -- toying with major league hitters, painting both edges of the plate, pumping fastballs, spinning knee-buckling curves, and mixing in a Buggs Bunny change.

Cliff's rational argument sure makes sense, but I still wish he were pitching again on Sunday...

2007-05-02 01:16:54
3.   waitingforthecall
Let me preface this by saying that I'm extremely high on Phil Hughes right now. However, I was saying all of this stuff to my friends after his first start so I stand by it as more than post-dominating start afterglow. I'm not sure that 150 IP would slow his development. Although we can't realistically expect him to constantly pitch as well as he did against Texas, I do believe that he has developed the arsenal he needs to succeed. His fastball has good movement AND late life and his curveball is the best I've seen from a Yankee in my 29 years on this planet. Tom Gordon's was devastating but he hardly threw it. Anyway, what really separates Hughes from everyone else is his impeccable command. He puts the fastball within a basketball-sized range of where he wants it. His expertly placed fastball actually functions like Mariano's cutter in keeping hitters from squaring it up. He is going to induce lots of dribblers and very few home runs. The biggest difference is that he will also get his fair share of double plays behind him because of his high ground ball rate. He will get fewer popups than Mariano but more routine (and potentially double play) groundballs. The curveball is not really meant to be put into play and is basically a strikeout pitch at this point. The only tangible room for improvement is mastery of his changeup and I believe that 150 IP is enough time to do so. In fact, if I had never read a scouting report or quote on the guy and everything I knew about him was based on his two big league appearances, I would say that he has an average/solid changeup. When you put that with his plus curveball, plus fastball, and plus (I consider it plus-plus) command, you have a true number one starter.

I believe that the Yankees can play well enough without him for two months to benefit from the improved production that this injury is likely to bestow upon Hughes come playoff time. If they get to the playoffs, they'll have a better Hughes than they would have had if he never sat out the 2 months. As long as the Yankees can keep Wang, Pettitte, and Mussina healthy for 90% of their starts the rest of the way, I think they'll still win 95 games.

2007-05-02 02:44:58
4.   nemecizer
I actually didn't sleep well last night because I was worried about Hughes.
2007-05-02 03:36:45
5.   OldYanksFan
Well... Karstens is gone for at least a month, Hughes for 2 months, and Pavs should probably not even be considered. Also, Sanchez is out until NEXT ASB.

I think the Yankees need to get another pitcher. If would be nice to get a CC/Zambrano type, but I don't see that happening. At this point, if we loose any of Wang/Andy/Moose for any period of time, we are cooked.

Maybe the Yanks can have a secret meeting with Roger to see if he's coming aboard. It's May, and at this point, Roger knows where he's going, although he will milk the situation for all it's worth.

I though our rotation, while not be best, was good enough and deep enough, considering our offense. But at this point, due to our INJURIES, I think we need to get one SP.

2007-05-02 04:06:23
6.   randym77
It was nice to see Bobby Murcer back in the booth. He looked good, except he's bald now. (Temporary, I'm sure.)
2007-05-02 04:06:48
7.   OldYanksFan
FWIW... Since we ARE the last place team, it was nice that last night we gained a full game on the entire division. With a little luck, we should be in 3rd place by midnight.

Considering 'Fate', we could certainly now continue the 'should we bring Phil up to MLB' debate, but I for one don't have the heart for it. Maybe we should officially put it on the 'Dead Horse' pile.

It's still very early, but anybody take a look at th NL Central? Roger must have his bags packed already, it's just a matter of who buys his ticket... Brian or Theo.

2007-05-02 04:11:40
8.   Simone
Hughes' injury is crushing, but I am grateful that it isn't his arm. He is young so with hard work he will recover fully. I don't know where Cashman can dig up another pitcher, but he needs to find one.
2007-05-02 04:28:07
9.   vockins
The NY Post headline in my mind:

PH***ING A

2007-05-02 04:33:41
10.   randym77
The actual Post headlines:

UN-FUL-PHIL-LED

and

PHIL FEELS NO-NO PAIN

The Daily News went with:

WOE HITTER

2007-05-02 04:46:55
11.   williamnyy23
5 Just throwing it out there, but would you trade Farnsworth to the Phillies for Jon Leiber?

The Yankees would open a bullpen slot for a more durable arm, save $3 million and fill the #5 slot in the rotation with a serviceable pitcher.

The Phillies would acquire a reliever who has had some very good years in the NL, allowing them to return Myers to the rotation.

On the surface, it seems to make sense. Maybe the Yankees could also get the Phillies to add in Chris Coste, who would be a significant upgrade over Will Nieves? Any thoughts?

2007-05-02 04:49:01
12.   Sliced Bread
"Phil-a-buster" headline would have worked, too.

"...the injury will protect Hughes from the team's desperation to overuse him this season, and I look forward to seeing more performances like last night's..."

Word, Cliff.

All these hamstring injuries; bad luck or poor conditioning?

If it's the latter, something's gotta change.

2007-05-02 04:51:41
13.   The Mick 536
A nightmare. Still looking forward to the next game. Post the picture of the line for the hot tub. Don't they stretch?

The strange thing about the game is that it allows for goats to become heroes. Get that Carlo.

2007-05-02 04:55:13
14.   rbj
10 I'd go with
Hughes Gotta be Kidding.
Another Yankee Starter Goes Down.

Quite frankly, I think this team is snake bit this year. Wang was on the DL, same with Moose, Pettitte will be at some point (elbow, I'm betting), Pavano ('nuff said). And two of the guys brought up -- Karstens and Hughes get injured. It's impossible to win if a starter goes down every game.

And this is not Torre's fault, nor Guidry's, nor Mattingly's, nor Cashman's. Sure, you could expect creaky old veterans to be on the 15 day DL at some point, but when your rookies get hurt too, and guys you've traded for (Sanchez) are out for 18 months, it is just an unbelievably bad string of luck. Maybe it is payment time for 1998 (Cone gets bit, and El Duque steps up big).

2007-05-02 05:03:57
15.   Mattpat11
Anyone else humming some Maureen McGovern?
2007-05-02 05:12:46
16.   Simone
14 ITA. The Yankees are having the worse run of luck with their starting pitchers ever. The injuries are neverending and unpredictable. The Yankees need another Aaron Small type miracle or they aren't seeing the post-season this year.
2007-05-02 05:43:27
17.   Murray
There's a bar on First and East 87th named "Phil Hughes."
2007-05-02 05:46:31
18.   Knuckles
11 I've heard rumblings of the Phillies putting Myers in the closer role. He'd be good, no doubt, but it doesn't seem like the best use of a 26/27yr old pitcher with his talent level.

This Hughes thing sucks- unbelievable. He said he felt it because he overextended trying to really get on top of that pitch, which leads me to believe it's less of a conditioning thing than an effort thing. Maybe a little too fired up.

Can't fault Torre for this one though, given how he was cruising, and his pitch count. If Joe had told Phil after 5 that the 6th would be his last frame, then maybe he goes and does the same thing trying to blow away his last batter then...

2007-05-02 05:50:58
19.   seamus
18 I thought you meant they wanted to trade for Mike Myers and make him their closer. I obviously haven't had my coffee yet.

It is hard to say anything other than Phil Hughes being hurt really sucks. Cliff does a good job of taking the rationale perspective on what should have been done with Hughes.

And yes, no way this is Torre's fault. Besides, pulling the guy with a no hitter is tough.

2007-05-02 06:03:36
20.   Jim Dean
The pitcher who's out there is named Roger Clemens.

That still leaves:
Wang
Pettitte
Moose
Igawa
Rasner
DeSalvo
Wright

I don't see why they'll make a trade for a pitcher. Plus, I'm sure Jeff Weaver and Sidney Ponson will be DFA'd within three weeks in case they still need "help".

2007-05-02 06:03:55
21.   Sliced Bread
17 Marty Miller has a tavern on the Upper West called "The Pulled Hamstring."

No barstools, just wheelchairs.

Happy Hour special today: $2 dollar shots of cortizone.

It only hurts when we laugh, Yanks fans.

2007-05-02 06:04:48
22.   Yankee Fan In Boston
ugh.

i had the same thought regarding this bump in the road limiting hughes' innings. still, this is getting ridiculous.

this has surpassed bad luck. this goes beyond being snake bit. i'm beginning to get the feeling larger karmic and/or cosmic forces are to blame.

the curse of sal fasano perhaps?

2007-05-02 06:05:37
23.   Jim Dean
14 They traded for a guy with a history of arm trouble. No surprise there.
2007-05-02 06:11:22
24.   rbj
23 And Jeff Weaver still has a job, and Jaret Wright just went on the DL. Pitching is an unnatural motion, no surprise that many of them have arm troubles. There's a real dearth of good, durable pitchers out there, with nearly every team looking to get those guys, so sometimes you are going to have to go with a lesser guy.

Man, I've never felt worse after a 10-1 thumping. Even the 6 pitcher no-hitter and the 22-0 loss were both just one games.

2007-05-02 06:11:28
25.   seamus
23 yeah, Sanchez isn't a surprise. Basically, we got higher value for higher risk in that deal.
2007-05-02 06:22:26
26.   Mattpat11
We have a chance to find the sunshine
Let's keep on looking for the light....
2007-05-02 06:23:46
27.   Count Zero
4 Word. That was so disappointing last night! I had that jittery feeling where I thought he was definitely going to do the miraculous.

6 Yep, it sure was. Bobby doing PbyP, the Yanks hitting, and Hughes dominating felt like it was all good and the world was turning in our favor.

Thanks for the "bright side" on it Cliff.

I have said all month that I firmly believe the Rocket will land in NY because with the pitching staff decimated, it plays right into Roger's mentality. He can come back as "The Savior" which suits his ego just fine. Throw in his old pal Andy, and the chance to play mentor to a kid called the "Bottle Rocket" and it seems to me like the odds are overwhelming the Yankees will get him.

2007-05-02 06:37:09
28.   Jim Dean
I'm already along the same lines as Cliff. It saves his arm for the stretch run.

But the injury also keeps the hype further under control. Imagine if he had finished the no-no last night? What would this place look today to say nothing of the backpages.

2007-05-02 06:39:29
29.   Jim Dean
27I think the only question with Roger is whether the Yanks hang close.
2007-05-02 06:39:51
30.   Sliced Bread
27 You could be right, but looking at it another way, if you were 44 years old, superstitious, and had a history of hamstring problems, and wanted to end your career with the best possible shot at a championship, would you run to the Yankees at this point?
2007-05-02 06:44:03
31.   Knuckles
Roger's probably got his chemist working on a new topical steroid called nohamstringpullozol right now. If he can bring enough for the whole team, he can pretty much name his price.
2007-05-02 06:48:23
32.   C2Coke
Is it wrong I find both of them 21, 30 equally funny?
2007-05-02 06:58:06
33.   Count Zero
30 No way of knowing what's going on in that man's head -- I just give my own opinion. :-)

I'm not sure that another ring is as important to him as how he gets it -- if he doesn't lead a team to it, then I don't think it will be that big a deal. That's why he was happy in Houston.

I don't see him playing second fiddle to Schilling, Beckett and/or Dice-K just to get another ring.

2007-05-02 07:19:27
34.   pistolpete
Gotta love the headline I saw in the Boston Herald this morning:

"Tavarez feels Sox don't need to get Clemens"

Well, of course he wouldn't think so.

2007-05-02 07:20:46
35.   williamnyy23
33 I agree. I think Clemens would much more cherish the "savior" role than simply being considered extra depth to round out the rotation.
2007-05-02 07:26:19
36.   Schteeve
First off, thanks to Cliff for the rationality. It's rare to find a blogger who isn't a reactive windbag, that's part of what makes this one so special.

Second, while part of me wonders if this might be just not "their year" I think the Yanks are going to be ok. As long as the pitching can be league average, we're going to win a lot of games due to the offense. Abreu, Cano and Damon have yet to do anything offensively this season and in Abreu and Damon's case that almost certain to change. I'm even reasonably sure that Cano will have a red hot month somewhere along the line. So the offense is going to continue to score a lot of runs.

If the starters can go from horrendous to mediocre, we will make a race of this yet.

2007-05-02 07:28:52
37.   jonnystrongleg
On Hughes:
http://tinyurl.com/2pwmz9
2007-05-02 07:31:06
38.   Mattpat11
33 In general, the easiest way to figure out what Roger is going to do is take what he says and figure out what the exact opposite is.
2007-05-02 07:38:02
39.   Simone
33 If Roger goes to Boston, he will not be "second fiddle" to the other starters by a long shot and he certainly will never see himself that way. No way is Roger coming to the Yankees unless the rotation gets back onto solid ground.
2007-05-02 07:50:04
40.   yankz
3 In 1, I meant that if he only pitches 150 this year, he's only good for 180 next year.

4 Ditto.

2007-05-02 08:02:59
41.   Mattpat11
Elias says Hughes is the first pitcher to take a no no into the seventh in his first or second start since Jorge De Paula of all people.

Who the hell could care enough to look up such a stat?

2007-05-02 08:36:51
42.   Agneselin
I'm taking the under on how soon Steinbrenner fires the new strength and conditioning coach!
2007-05-02 08:50:40
43.   Shaun P
42 I'm no physical therapist, but boy, you sure have to wonder what's going on there . . .

What an awesome game. I feel bad for Hughes, but c'est la vie. Totally agree with Cliff and many of you - it could end up saving the kid's arm.

As for getting Matt DeSalvo onto the 40-man, the Yanks could move Sanchez to the 60-day DL, which IIRC, means he doesn't count for 40-man purposes, and then add DeSalvo. Isn't Veras going to miss most the year too? Moving him to the 60-day DL is another option.

A cynic would suggest doing the same with Pavano, but I'm too happy about Hughes's gem to be cynical this morning.

2007-05-02 09:07:30
44.   Zack
They already moved Sanchez to the 60 day for Hughes, so that's out. THey could take Kennard off, as hes dead space, but I'm not sure that would happen either. What they SHOULD do, of course, is cut Cairo/Minky, but that won't happen either. They may go the Chase Wright route again, but I imagine its Rasner for ease. I suppoise Reese could be taken off as well with no real loss in the end.
2007-05-02 09:11:08
45.   mehmattski
44 You know, Zack, I can't help but notice that Hughes' injury came after the one time you didn't ask what affect the long Yankees top of the inning would have...
2007-05-02 09:16:18
46.   Zack
45 I gave a lengthy apology at the end of last night's thread for that. I held off on my dinner plans for as long as possible, and was plenty late, but in the end, I had to go. I never actually expected it to be a problem of course, and if the Texas pitchers hadn't taken so darn long to make it through innings, it wouldn't have been. But I do take total responsibility, I think maybe we should send Prince Philip a get well card on behalf of the entire Banter.
2007-05-02 09:21:35
47.   Sliced Bread
I think the Yanks will go with Rasner.
Control-wise he's probably a safer bet than DeSalvo. DeSalvo walked 5 last night in 5 2/3 innings, though two of them were the last guys he faced.
2007-05-02 09:26:17
48.   rbj
Clippard's pitching pretty good right now, through seven innings he's given up 5 hits, 1 BB and 11 Ks. Though the Mudhens haven't been hitting real well of late.
2007-05-02 09:30:06
49.   YankeeInMichigan
I heard an interview with Cashman this morning. He said something like "4-6 weeks is our standard line following a pop."

Was Joe really going to let Hughes complete the no-no? That could have taken around 120 pitches. I believe that Will Carroll has suggested something like a 90-pitch limit for pitchers under 22. The hammy pull could be a blessing in disguise.

150 innings stunts Hughes' development in that the Yankees will now want to limit him to 180 innings next year. If he went 180 this year, he would have been set to shoulder a full load (~210 innings) in 2008.

I am confused about the hesitance regarding Darrel Rasner. He was reasonably solid in two starts, yet Torre gave him the hook after 75 pitches against Cleveland (setting the bullpen overuse syndrome into motion). He certainly deserves another shot now before a dice-roll on DeSalvo. Besides, if Rasner comes up now and sticks, he will have spent less than 20 days in the minors, so he will have another option for 2008 (I think).

2007-05-02 09:31:22
50.   Peter
45 46 I should probably send Hughes a get well soon card as well. I was holding off on adding him to my fantasy team, but as I watched last night's game I thought to myself that I better add him now before he's gone. No sooner than I clicked OK and proceeded to admire my new pitching staff, Teixeira stepped into the batter's box. I'm sorry, guys.
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2007-05-02 10:16:25
51.   Tarheel
I am just surprised that no one has blamed this on Arod yet. Last year it would have been a no brainer.
2007-05-02 10:27:36
52.   Max Nomad
It's fuckin' A-God I tell youze!
2007-05-02 10:27:51
53.   Zack
So, anyone have the over/under on when we ever see Phelps again?
2007-05-02 10:33:32
54.   Knuckles
53 Phelps is gone. If you think that statement made the Boss feel better, you're crazy. He had Frank Torre take him fishing, on Monday, and let's just say...the Stugots came back with one less passenger...
2007-05-02 10:39:18
55.   Shaun P
44 You're right, Zach - I forgot about that. Veras could be used, though, or if Karstens is really out 2 months, they could use him.

53 As for Phelps, with Washburn (a lefty) starting on Sunday vs the Yanks, I expect to see Phelps then.

I'm worrying less about Minky. No good reason why.

2007-05-02 12:17:08
56.   jakewoods
Hopefully Hughes is back quick and its just a hammy. And hes fresh and ready to roll come June/July.
2007-05-02 12:22:20
57.   Zack
So I was thinking. I don't know if its possible the way the Toaster is set up, but I think it would be cool/useful/fun to be able to have a user profile, so that we can learn a bit more about our fellow posters here. Many of us don't really know much about each other but have been commenting faithfully for 3 years or so now. So, you know, what do you all think? Just a little bio section that links from our name when we post or something? Cliff/Alex/Ken, is that possible?
2007-05-02 12:29:35
58.   seattleyank
According to the NY Times, the Yanks just fired their strength and conditioning coach.
2007-05-02 12:36:23
59.   Max Nomad
58 I guess once you phuck with the Phenom, heads roll.
2007-05-02 12:37:30
60.   Sliced Bread
58 Yeah, and Cashman pulled a hammy punting Miller to the curb.
2007-05-02 12:40:20
61.   pistolpete
58 Wow, how do the Yankees hire a guy not in baseball for 10 years and whose last job was at a country club...?

Not only should this guy have been fired, the guy who hired Miller should be fired.

2007-05-02 12:41:44
62.   Max Nomad
Who was the last guy? Mangold? Hasn't he been fired and rehired 3 or 4 times now?
2007-05-02 12:46:59
63.   seattleyank
61 Says in the Times that Cashman hired him.
2007-05-02 12:48:46
64.   Sliced Bread
How long before Miller signs a ten year deal to train the Knicks?

Farnswacker reacts to the firing of Marty Miller:

"Shit, man, no more potato sack races? Them's was real fun."

2007-05-02 12:50:19
65.   Max Nomad
Yanks don't have to face King Felix, his return has been pushed to May 9th
2007-05-02 12:51:16
66.   Max Nomad
63 Cashman signs off on everyone. I think pistolpete was talking about whoever "hired" him.
2007-05-02 12:57:02
67.   AbbyNormal821
59 60 61 & {64]

Stop it, you're making me snark coffee out my nose! HAHAHAA!!!

2007-05-02 12:59:04
68.   Max Nomad
Man, Pete is getting hammered by his commentors over at LoHud.
2007-05-02 13:17:59
69.   AbbyNormal821
61 The NY Times picture of him looks like he's counting with is fingers the number of players he's sent to the DL.

;-)

2007-05-02 13:18:10
70.   pistolpete
from LoHud:

"I'm sorry (actually, I'm not sorry at all), but it doesn't take much of a brain to figure that prepping professional athletes is a little different from getting old people limber for their day of lounging by a pool or sipping fruity drinks and complaining about Social Security."

Made me almost spit water on my keyboard...

2007-05-02 13:21:58
71.   OldYanksFan
57 Its a fine idea. All fields could be optional and displaying them w/comments could be optional. An EMail link would be nice. City, State, Country would be nice, especially to know that we are attracting/speaking to people all over the globe. Profession/occupation is reasonable.

Why not drop Cliff/Alex and email? I know it's do-able, as other sites have it.

2007-05-02 13:22:15
72.   pistolpete
69 Ok, caption contest using this image:

http://tinyurl.com/3dy7bp

"So Philip, would you be interested in my new hamstring tweaking program? I've already worked with Moose & Wang and it's done wonders for them towards resting their other muscles... After all, you can't hurt your pitching arm if you can't throw off a mound!"

2007-05-02 13:29:10
73.   Shaun P
70 I haven't read the comments at LoHud in ages. They started out good, and then went downhill fast. I gave up in the middle of last year.

Pete's got a tough job, balancing being a beat writer AND a blogger. On the beat, his primary job is to report. With a blog, you almost have to analyze, or at least offer an opinion - otherwise, what's the point? Sometimes I think his analysis is spot on; sometimes I don't. But he's never afraid to express his opinions and support them. In my experience, its the lack of support for arguments/opinion in some comments that make it unreadable. That some folks bash Pete just makes it worse.

2007-05-02 13:30:16
74.   Knuckles
"Hang on a sec, Philly...I'm counting your legs. One...two. Two legs, two hammys. You still got another one- whattaya complaining about? 'Zo's playing NBA basketball at age 53, with one kidney."

or,

"Two weeks severance pay, AND you'll write me a letter of recommendation to the Mets and Sox? You got yourself a deal Mr. Cashman!"

2007-05-02 13:32:41
75.   Count Zero
72 "Well first I got that Chinese kid...the one who can't speak English. Then I got that snarky guy who went to Stanford...showed him who was smart, didn't I? Yesterday I got that snot-nosed kid who's about to make more money than me and my whole family combined before he can even buy a six pack of beer..."
2007-05-02 13:34:31
76.   dianagramr
72

"You want fries with that?"

2007-05-02 13:35:42
77.   Shaun P
72 Knuckles, can't wait to see what you do to that one in Bronx Comix.

My entry:

"C'mon guys - stretch those hammies! One and two and three and . . . well, I guess that's long enough. Let's see, how about we stretch those forearm muscles next? Who wants to lead? Carl?"

2007-05-02 13:37:13
78.   Max Nomad
76 Yes!
2007-05-02 13:37:19
79.   AbbyNormal821
75 Awesome! LOL!
2007-05-02 13:47:23
80.   Bama Yankee
72 "Stretchin', we don't need no stinkin' stretchin'"
2007-05-02 13:47:53
81.   Bama Yankee
Someone should buy him this book:
http://tinyurl.com/yskgde
2007-05-02 13:51:24
82.   AbbyNormal821
81 I swear, I thought that was some kind of mocked up graphic, but damned if I didn't check on Amazon, and holy crikey! It IS an actual book!
Nice find, Bama!!!!
2007-05-02 13:58:11
83.   dianagramr
82

Here's the book he should probably reading NOW ...

http://tinyurl.com/272enc

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