Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Bombs Away
2007-04-11 12:42
by Cliff Corcoran
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There was reason to believe that Carl Pavano and Andy Pettitte would do what they did over the past two games, dropping the Yankee starters' collective ERA more than three runs from 9.97 to 6.75 over the course of 13 stellar innings, but, I have to say, I'm a lot less enthusiastic about what we might see from Mike Mussina tonight. Unlike Pavano or Pettitte, Moose wasn't hurt all that much by his defense in his first outing. Instead he was just plain roughed up, allowing eight hits, four of them doubles, walking three, and hitting a batter in a mere four innings. Moose allowed the Orioles to score in three of those four innings and in the lone exception he had runners on first and second and used up 21 pitches (and would have used more had Corey Patterson not laid down a successful sac bunt on the first pitch he saw). I suppose one could point to Moose's four strikeouts in those four innings and respectable 62 percent strike rate as positive signs, but after seeing the way he struggled through spring training, I'm not convinced.

On the other side of the ledger, the Twins are throwing Ramon Ortiz to the wolves. Ortiz is a better pitcher than Sidney Ponson, but that's not saying much. It's comical to recall that Ortiz was dubbed "Little Pedro" when he emerged with the Angels last century. Ortiz aged three years in one winter as a result of the post-9/11 crack down on documentation. That year he surrendered 40 home runs. The next he posted a 5.20 ERA. In 2004, he lost his rotation spot. Jumping to the National League in 2005, Ortiz spent the next two seasons in two wildly disparate pitching environments in Cincinnati and Washington and was lit up in both (his home and away splits confirming that his ability to suck was uneffected by his home environment). Giving up 31 homers in 33 games while playing your home games in RFK Stadium is a nifty trick and one that doesn't bode well for a pitcher facing the hottest offense in baseball (7.29 R/G) and the team tied for third in the majors in home runs.

Of course, Ortiz handled the Orioles in his last start (7 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 4 K, 0 HR), but I'm more interested in what the Yankees did to him when they met in the nation's capitol last July, knocking him around for seven runs in 4 1/3 innings on eleven hits including homers by Jorge Posada and, you guessed it, Alex Rodriguez. That was the game in which Shawn Chacon, Matt Smith, T.J. Beam, Scott Proctor, and, shockingly, Mariano Rivera combined to blow a 9-2 lead. I don't expect tonight will be quite as ugly, but I think we're in store for another slugfest nonetheless. Fortunately, the Yankees have already taken the series (their first series win of the year), winning the first two games by a combined score of 18-3. They also have an off-day tomorrow, which means it could be all-in from their rebuilt bullpen, which posts the second-best bullpen ERA in the majors (1.27).

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2007-04-11 14:03:21
1.   C2Coke
One great start by Moose can make us feel how many years younger in one night, I wonder? Or for that matter, make Moose himself feel years younger in one night perhaps? Age is indeed catching on.
2007-04-11 14:05:21
2.   C2Coke
By the way, anyone wanna have a guess how many HRs or IBB by Arod tonight?
2007-04-11 14:11:50
3.   RIYank
No, but I'll go out on a limb and predict a good and efficient outing from Mussina, though not a great or spectacular one. Let's say seven innings, three runs.
2007-04-11 14:25:46
4.   kylepetterson
For those who don't frequent LoHud, check out the Yankees clip in the upper left-hand corner:

2007-04-11 14:33:47
5.   JL25and3
0 I agree with you about Mussina. I'm more concerned about him than any of the other starters. His problems in ST weren't about command or "feel," the kinds of things that a little more work might help. They were about losing 5 mph off his fastball, and a 38-year-old pitcher losing velocity doesn't have a good prognosis. Here's hoping I'm wrong.

Btw, did you catch the shot he took at the media yesterday for their Rodriguez coverage? Hey, thanks, Moose, for sticking up for Alex when he didn't need it anymore. Where were you last year?

2007-04-11 14:54:57
6.   Max Nomad
5 I'm not panicking with Moose just yet. He's too good for too long to just die off now, especially after his year last year (even though he was better first half). And he might just be saving himself a little (too much).

And I was glad to see him take a shot at the media, even if he needed more last year. Nobody wants to get caught in that whirlwind, anyway. But now it really seems like the whole team is just having fun with Arod. Bowa made him a bet to not say anything "stupid" all year, the team was genuinely happy for him after the walkoff, and they all laugh a lot about the Jeter/Arod "rift" that just doesn't exist.

It's all got me pumped.

Oh, and as of today, before the game, the Yanks have scored 51 runs in 7 games...

2007-04-11 15:29:32
7.   alsep73
PeteAbe has Scrabble in at 1B again. Obviously, Ortiz is a rightie, but I'm wondering whether Joe has gone with a straight leftie-rightie platoon there so far, when he implied at the start of the season that Phelps might play a bit more against righties than expected.
2007-04-11 15:36:54
8.   kylepetterson
7 For good, better, or Mientkiewicz, I've always liked the idea of having a single player at a position than a platoon. It seems like the platoon doesn't really help as much as it's supposed to. Maybe I'm wrong. Probably.
2007-04-11 16:16:52
9.   Max Nomad
8 Not that I'm the biggest Minky supporter, especially after hanging out too much on Banter, but I prefer to have Phelps on the bench, since he's used to DHing and from it PHing. Remember Bronson Sardinha's walkoff in ST? Phelps hit a pinch hit single to left on a 3-0 first. Having Minky on the bench is fine for late-inning defensive replacement, but I'm not a huge fan of the pinch hit bunt, which Minky does brilliantly.
2007-04-11 16:20:27
10.   Vandelay Industries
Watching the Sox game. This kid seems to be the real deal.
2007-04-11 16:23:28
11.   Vandelay Industries
I'd love to know what Beltre was doing in his walk year with the Dodgers. I live in LA now and he was just downright scary that year. He has been no better than pedestrian since signing with the Mariners. For the Mariners sake, at least he is still about the best fielding 3B I've seen in years. Yes, the stats don't show it, but he is better by quite a bit than Rolen et al.
2007-04-11 16:23:58
12.   Max Nomad
10 Dice-K? Or King Felix? Cuz the latter is smokin'. I'm not sure about Daisuke yet...
2007-04-11 16:28:04
13.   Vandelay Industries

The Jury is out on both in my mind. Felix got roughed up a bit last year due to lack of experience, and I haven't seen enough of him. I figure a pitcher should gain about 1.2-1.5 points on his ERA coming from Japan to MLB. Couple that with the downright Little League dimensions of most of the parks. That still puts him around 3.3-3.5'ish. My heart wants Dice-K to flop, but if he can throw those breaking balls for first pitch strikes and in fastball counts concistently, he'll be scary!

2007-04-11 16:28:16
14.   Max Nomad
Anyone take a look closely at the Pirates? I hate to say it after such a long streak of pure suck, but they have a solid rotation with Snell, Maholm, Duke, and Gorzelanny, and a decent bullpen with a good closer (Torres), as well as a 3-4-5 of Sanchez-LaRoche-Bay. They could be this year's Tigers...
2007-04-11 16:30:32
15.   Orly Yarly NoWai
Dice-K looks good. Felix looks scary. Really, really, really scary.
2007-04-11 16:30:41
16.   Vandelay Industries

I sure hope so. Tracy is a class act, and the Dodgers blamed him for the collapse, that was due to the bone head trades they made. I hope they do well. And McLouth has some potential for the Bucks too.

2007-04-11 16:31:35
17.   Max Nomad
15 And THINNER. He lost a ton of weight. Catch his opener game? Nasty stuff...

Dice-K has allowed 2 hits and has 1 out in the 2nd now...

2007-04-11 16:32:46
18.   Vandelay Industries
Thank goodness for Manny's defense!
2007-04-11 16:36:23
19.   Orly Yarly NoWai
17 I'm a regular USS Mariner reader and Mariner fan (second-favorite team after the Yankees). Felix is just brilliant. 12 Ks and 15 or so GBOs. That's pretty incredible right there.
2007-04-11 16:38:08
20.   Vandelay Industries
Thank goodness for Manny's lazy running down the line.
2007-04-11 16:40:17
21.   yankz
19 That would be a complete game...
2007-04-11 16:41:05
22.   Vandelay Industries
Is the Yankee game on EI tonight? My Time Warner has Hockey on the channel that the game is supposed to be on. I hope they sqaure this all away so I can DVr the games.
2007-04-11 16:41:29
23.   yankz
Felix, you slacker, I need more K's!
2007-04-11 16:41:54
24.   Orly Yarly NoWai
Then it was 13 GBOs; I remember Dave saying that the little bloop Lopez caught in the first inning today was the first FB hit off Felix this year.
2007-04-11 16:42:16
25.   Orly Yarly NoWai
yanks, I know what you mean. ^^
2007-04-11 16:44:07
26.   rbj
I'm not panicking about Moose. The first turn through the rotation was simply due to bad weather. At least, that's what I'm calling it. And props to Torre for not trotting out the House Money lineup.
2007-04-11 16:44:47
27.   yankz
For fantasy purposes, does anyone know if Al Reyes is the DRays' closer?
2007-04-11 16:45:35
28.   yankz
Never mind, he is. "For the time being," according to Yahoo.
2007-04-11 16:47:17
29.   rbj
I thought about not mentioning it, but they're interviewing Peter Gammons on ESPN -- even though he's an ESPN analyst, and they're making no pretense he's anything but a RS fan tonight. It just rubs me the wrong way; I don't have any problem with him being a fan, but just that your own network shouldn't present you as an objective analyst one night, then interview you as a fanboy the next. Can't explain why, just that it seems wrong.
2007-04-11 16:52:09
30.   RIYank
Wow. Tek and Cocoa seriously overmatched.

Just out of curiosity, how long till Felix is a free agent?
He has 1.06 of ML service, signed as an amateur FA in 2002. So... when is he free?

2007-04-11 16:54:44
31.   RIYank
Yeesh. Walking Dustin Pedroia! Kid still has a couple things to learn.
2007-04-11 16:56:22
32.   Orly Yarly NoWai
30 If Seattle has brains, never.

31 I glanced away, but I think he hit Pedroia.

2007-04-11 16:57:25
33.   Orly Yarly NoWai
32 Never mind; my bad.
2007-04-11 16:58:37
34.   Vandelay Industries

Were you under the impression that ESPN is anything more than entertainment? Journalistic integrity and ESPN, pashaw!

2007-04-11 16:59:56
35.   C2Coke
15 Looks like a great matchup. Felix just turned 21...
2007-04-11 17:02:16
36.   Vandelay Industries
Well, time to switch over to the Yankee game.

Good luck Felix!

2007-04-11 17:02:48
37.   C2Coke
How Dice-K handles himself is amazing. He is like Wang, shows no emotion. And well...he seems to be for real.
2007-04-11 17:03:44
38.   RIYank
Orly, it's not the brains, it's the bucks! Think of the superstuds Seattle hasn't been able to pay.
2007-04-11 17:05:13
39.   Vandelay Industries

Haven't been able, or not willing to? I'll give you Arod, at that point, salaries were out of control.

2007-04-11 17:05:37
40.   C2Coke
38 Arod??
2007-04-11 17:07:36
41.   Vandelay Industries

Well, Seattle could have kept some of the guys they have let go, but I couldn't expect them to pay the money that Arod got. They could have kept many of the others. Seattle isn't Tampa or Cleveland for crying out loud.

2007-04-11 17:07:43
42.   C2Coke
I am not in the mood for comical effects today, the announcers of FSN better not get on my nerves today. Do you hear me? I am warning you!!!
2007-04-11 17:08:40
43.   C2Coke
41 I know, I was "answering" RIYank in 38.
2007-04-11 17:08:48
44.   rbj
37 It's generally an Asian thing to not show emotion -- think of the Korean & Japanese teams in the WBC; huge contrast to the Latin teams which were full of emotion. Interesting meeting of different cultures.
2007-04-11 17:09:07
45.   Vandelay Industries

Well, they insulted the City of Cleveland yesterday, maybe today they can take on Detroit.

2007-04-11 17:11:05
46.   Vandelay Industries
Why isn't EI in HD. I hate Time Warner. I hate Time Warner. I hate Time Warner. I hate Time Warner. I hate Time Warner.
2007-04-11 17:12:56
47.   C2Coke
44 That may be true. But remember Jae Seo the other day? And I remember seeing some other Asian pitchers from Dodgers (I believe) don't seem nearly as calm and confident.
2007-04-11 17:15:16
48.   yankz
I'm really predicting a HR for A-Clutch next inning.
2007-04-11 17:15:20
49.   Vandelay Industries

Saito, the Dodgers closer, is very animated.

2007-04-11 17:19:12
50.   C2Coke
45 Sigh....those clowns...just said Mussina would throw his kitchen sink because he can throw everything...I know they are admiring Moose, but kitchen sink?
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2007-04-11 17:21:19
51.   Knuckles
anyone having issues?
trying to watch on the laptop while Fri Night Lights is on, and no luck...
2007-04-11 17:22:27
52.   Alex Belth
Dude, Mussina is such a good fielder. He turned that so quickly. Made it look easy.
2007-04-11 17:25:06
53.   Orly Yarly NoWai
The Mariners are making a pretty big profit with a payroll of $110 million as it stands. A-Rod is a special case, but they could keep Felix.
2007-04-11 17:25:24
54.   yankz
2007-04-11 17:25:34
55.   Alex Belth
Fuck. A Rod missed his pitch, the 2-1 fastball that was over the plate. Dag.
2007-04-11 17:26:25
56.   C2Coke
51 It's not running smoothly. The funny thing is, I had no problem watching the Red Sox's game.
2007-04-11 17:27:09
57.   nyyfan22
Yo Alex - your memoir on working for the Brothers Coen is amazing. I had no idea.

Props, yo.

51 does mlb make you enter you credit card info before loading every game?

2007-04-11 17:27:22
58.   rbj
There are always exceptions to the rule 47, 49
2007-04-11 17:30:58
59.   rbj
53 A-Rod left before Nintendo bought them.

Day-um. I just got off a phone survey for local radio stations. They played about 40 song clips, I had to rate from Unfamiliar, Never liked, Tired of, No opinion, Like, and Favorite. About 30 of my answers were Unfamiliar. I like the CCR, Who, Allman Brothers, and Tom Petty songs.

Time to get my afghan and sit in my rocker. Now where's my cane?

2007-04-11 17:32:19
60.   rbj
Seattle 3, RS 0, one out top of 6th
2007-04-11 17:36:45
61.   LI yankee
Hey everyone, it's been a while

A-Rod is wicked. That is all.

2007-04-11 17:38:51
62.   rbj
2007-04-11 17:39:23
63.   Vandelay Industries
Silly HOF discussion going on.
2007-04-11 17:39:29
64.   nyyfan22
Well, Moose's velocity looks better, but he's still throwing a lot of balls.

WHOA! sweet grab, Robbie!

2007-04-11 17:40:13
65.   C2Coke
Wow! Cano!
2007-04-11 17:44:17
66.   RIYank
Two good games. I'm happier with the way things are going in Fenway than here, I must say.
2007-04-11 17:46:16
67.   Jim Dean
Even though Sterling just mentioned it, I'm not going to. Turn on the game on ESPN. Something special is happening.
2007-04-11 17:46:16
68.   OldYanksFan
That's the best wood Melkdud has put on the ball all season. Maybe he's coming around.
2007-04-11 17:47:15
69.   Mattpat11
Maybe the Yankees are unaware that we're facing Ramon Ortiz.
2007-04-11 17:47:32
70.   C2Coke
66 Plus, the MLB.TV feeding is better and the announcers are actually much better.
2007-04-11 17:47:59
71.   Vandelay Industries
Felix give up a hit yet?
2007-04-11 17:49:23
72.   RIYank
67 Exactly.
2007-04-11 17:49:47
73.   C2Coke
71 Nope. 6 innings, almost perfect with one error.
2007-04-11 17:49:59
74.   Mattpat11
Perhaps Mussina is unaware that he's pitching in the regular season
2007-04-11 17:50:30
75.   JimCobain
Is it just me or is Flarety knocking Mussina a little more than usual right now? I think he is and I like it.
2007-04-11 17:50:56
76.   Jim Dean
2007-04-11 17:51:06
77.   Vandelay Industries

So, no hitter through 6 and all they are talking about id Dice-K?

2007-04-11 17:51:19
78.   rbj
I think the Yankee bats are a bit tired from all the hitting they've been doing lately.
2007-04-11 17:51:42
79.   C2Coke
My goodness, Dunkin Donuts ad in Japanese in Fenway.
2007-04-11 17:52:09
80.   RIYank
Uh oh.
2007-04-11 17:52:09
81.   Vandelay Industries
Oh Fuck me! Mussina is hurt?
2007-04-11 17:52:17
82.   Mattpat11
Well this is encouraging.
2007-04-11 17:52:53
83.   nyyfan22
WTF? Crazy shit in Twixtville, kids.


2007-04-11 17:53:12
84.   Jim Dean
77 Hey, you in front. Sit down!
2007-04-11 17:53:20
85.   C2Coke
77 Well...they are in Boston...and Dice-K is also solid through 7 with 100 or so pitches.
2007-04-11 17:54:13
86.   Jim Dean
Just a matter of time before they sign Clemens.
2007-04-11 17:54:13
87.   RIYank
Okay, well, here's another bullpen win for the Yankees, I guess. Let's hope he's leaving just as a precaution.
2007-04-11 17:54:59
88.   rbj
I just realized that Ramon Ortiz is pitching a no hitter too.
2007-04-11 17:55:06
89.   Vandelay Industries

Sorry, forgot it was ESPN. Notwithstanding the fact that Hernandez is pitching better and facing the Red Sox, not the Mariners. What else would I expect?

2007-04-11 17:55:13
90.   C2Coke
What happened? Any details from YES?
2007-04-11 17:55:49
91.   RIYank
85 Well, he's solid, but three runs and 8 hits. And I bet Dice-K doesn't come out for the eighth.
2007-04-11 17:56:08
92.   OldYanksFan
Dice-K gives Ichiro some SERIOUS chin music.
Its Official:
It's a matter of honor:
Ichuiro has chosen 2 Shinogi Zikuri Tanto short blades which Dice-K goes with a more traditional Long Koto Katana broad sword.

The Red Sox investment is in serious jeapordy.

2007-04-11 17:56:17
93.   Alex Belth
No details yet. Groin, hamstring? Sheeeeet.
2007-04-11 17:56:37
94.   mehmattski
Paging Philip Hughes.... Paging Philip Hughes...
2007-04-11 17:57:17
95.   C2Coke
88 That's right...

86 Could it be as early as May?

2007-04-11 17:57:52
96.   Vandelay Industries

And get Karstens well too!

2007-04-11 17:57:53
97.   rbj
Um Cliff, were you looking at your crystal ball when you did the writeup for this post?
2007-04-11 17:57:53
98.   Vandelay Industries

And get Karstens well too!

2007-04-11 17:58:35
99.   C2Coke
94 I'd say they call Clemens first.
2007-04-11 17:58:47
100.   RIYank
Sean Henn to the rescue!
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2007-04-11 17:59:08
101.   Vandelay Industries
Manny isn't relaxed, he's just not that bright.
2007-04-11 17:59:24
102.   ny2ca2dc
Good thing Henn wasn't used yesterday...

One DP away from getting out of this, nice one Henny

2007-04-11 18:00:10
103.   OldYanksFan
3-0 Mariners after 7.
2007-04-11 18:00:26
104.   C2Coke
97 I am telling you, Cliff is really good at predicting performances by pitchers. It's scarier than how Hernandez is pitching sometimes.
2007-04-11 18:00:27
105.   nyyfan22
Jeter is the friggin BOMB!
2007-04-11 18:00:38
106.   rbj
Yes, yes, yes! Cap'n!
2007-04-11 18:00:52
107.   seamus
classic jetes!
2007-04-11 18:00:55
108.   ny2ca2dc
F YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who else KNEW he was going to nail that!

2007-04-11 18:01:36
109.   seamus
108 once i realized it wasjeter's ball i was all over that. Noone makes that play like he does.
2007-04-11 18:01:41
110.   claybeez
Henn - YES!
Jeter - H@LL YES!
2007-04-11 18:02:03
111.   OldYanksFan
Dice-k IS good, but he throw a lot of junk out of the strike zone and depends on batters chasing. With a patient team, he will walk quite a few.
2007-04-11 18:02:04
112.   Mattpat11
Beautiful play
2007-04-11 18:02:35
113.   C2Coke
The Cap'n and Cano are a great team.
2007-04-11 18:02:35
114.   Vandelay Industries
This Jackie Robindon promo stuff is getting out of hand. Would it kill them to at least mention Larry Doby! I mean would it kill them? Ignored, but no less important than Robinson.
2007-04-11 18:02:40
115.   RIYank
Whew. Our great defense bails out the Moose. Great D plus the mighty Henn.
2007-04-11 18:02:58
116.   JimCobain
Those are the kind of Jeter plays that keep Rob Neyer up at night ;)
2007-04-11 18:03:33
117.   RIYank
Whew. Our great defense bails out the Moose. Great D plus the mighty Henn.
2007-04-11 18:03:50
118.   JimCobain
114 Excellent point.
2007-04-11 18:03:54
119.   nyyfan22
See that replay? Cano looked like he was waiting to get knighted after catching the Jete assist.
2007-04-11 18:03:58
120.   rbj
And Damon gets a hit.
2007-04-11 18:04:39
121.   OldYanksFan
It's none of my business, but does anyone else think it's INSANE for Minn. to have a new stadium withOUT a roof?
2007-04-11 18:04:47
122.   mehmattski
116 To be fair, Neyer acknowledged Jeter's performance on fly balls, and used it as support for his suggestion that Jeter move to CF in 2005. It's his failure on balls up the middle (Pastadaving Jeter) that irk most.
2007-04-11 18:06:55
123.   JimCobain
122 understood. But those "highlight" plays are why he wins the gold glove (gold glove = prom king). And for the record I thought Jeter should have moved to Center and still might once Torre's not the manager.
2007-04-11 18:09:00
124.   C2Coke
Let's get the party started!
2007-04-11 18:09:28
125.   rbj
Just a bit under it, but another rbi for A-Rod.
2007-04-11 18:09:42
126.   Mattpat11
Well, our no hitter is broken up. Hopefully others stay in tact
2007-04-11 18:10:09
127.   seamus
that boston bullpen makes me smile...
2007-04-11 18:10:32
128.   JimCobain
Well good thing Torre didn't use Henn last night as some were calling for.
2007-04-11 18:11:34
129.   OldYanksFan
ARod in a serious slump.
2007-04-11 18:12:44
130.   nyyfan22
Trivia answer: Pedro, RJ, and Maddox
2007-04-11 18:13:22
131.   nyyfan22
...I guess they can't consider the rocket active.
2007-04-11 18:13:37
132.   Vandelay Industries
There goes that.
2007-04-11 18:14:01
133.   rbj
Dang, there goes Felix's no-no.
2007-04-11 18:14:15
134.   Mattpat11
Drew with a hit. Damnit.
2007-04-11 18:14:41
135.   yankz
I missed it, can someone explain the Jeter play?
2007-04-11 18:16:42
136.   mehmattski
Is it me or do the FSN North cameras look fuzzy, like this game is in some sort of dream sequence. I guess when Russ Ortiz is in a pitcher's duel with Sean Henn, it must be a dream.
2007-04-11 18:17:29
137.   ny2ca2dc
New nick name: Sean Hennessy
2007-04-11 18:17:42
138.   mehmattski
135 Hump-backed liner to short left-center, Jeter ranged out and made an over the shoulder catch, then wheeled and fired to second for the double play.
2007-04-11 18:17:52
139.   Zack
Just checking in: I see Arod continues to be our offense, Moose is better than last week(how does he look on tv?) and Felix the King is showing ESPN who deserves the attention...
2007-04-11 18:18:08
140.   rbj
Runners on 1 & 2, 1 out, Henn in for an injured Moose. Ball is hit to short LF, Jeter does his Willie Mays over the shoulder impression, catches it and throws to Cano to double up the runner at second who had taken off.
2007-04-11 18:18:35
141.   nyyfan22
135 1 out man at 1st and 2nd. A pop up to short left center. Jeter caught it over the shoulder then whipped around and doubled off L Rodriguez at 2nd to end the inning.
2007-04-11 18:18:38
142.   Zack
Wait, what happened to Moose?
2007-04-11 18:19:24
143.   LI yankee
142 Possibly groin, he pulled himself out.
2007-04-11 18:19:54
144.   rbj
Felix is still in line for a W, go M's, beat Boston.
2007-04-11 18:20:12
145.   Zack
Crud, well, looks like Mr. Rasner ain't skipping a turn...
2007-04-11 18:20:17
146.   RIYank
Moose removed for mysterious reasons. "You'll know as soon as we know" kinda thing. He called Guidry out after giving up two base runners with no out in the third.
2007-04-11 18:20:55
147.   rsmith51
Did the Yanks forget they are facing Ortiz?
2007-04-11 18:21:12
148.   Zack
Felix's line is just plain nasty...Is there anything better than seeing ESPN AND the Sox get showed up at once? (Come on Putz!)
2007-04-11 18:23:42
149.   RIYank
When is C-M W due back? Two minor league starts first, I think Joe said.
2007-04-11 18:25:47
150.   nyyfan22
149 I keep reading that he'll most likely be back by the 23rd, which is the next time the yanks will need a 5th starter.
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2007-04-11 18:25:56
151.   LI yankee
149 I think the date was April 22.
2007-04-11 18:26:36
152.   Vandelay Industries
I love Orel, but the stadium dimensions do not affect the dimensions of the infield...sheesh.
2007-04-11 18:27:00
153.   ny2ca2dc
Felix coming out to finish this himself. awesome
2007-04-11 18:27:28
154.   RIYank
Strained left hamstring. Not good.
2007-04-11 18:27:36
155.   nyyfan22
YES reports strained left hammy for Moose.
2007-04-11 18:27:50
156.   Alex Belth
Not good at all.
2007-04-11 18:27:57
157.   yankz
138,140,141 Thanks! Any update on Moose?
2007-04-11 18:28:08
158.   yankz
Oh, damn.
2007-04-11 18:28:23
159.   Vandelay Industries
With Karstens on the DL, they have to call Hughes up, no?
2007-04-11 18:28:55
160.   Zack
damn these strained muscles, killing us! I know Karstens is due to come off the dl before the Wanger, so it maybe a turn through of Karstens AND Rasner...
2007-04-11 18:29:31
161.   Zack
Nah, they will move Rasner to Moose's spot and Karstens should be off the dl by the time we need a 5th
2007-04-11 18:30:08
162.   nyyfan22
Looks like they're going to leave Felix in for the CG. Sucks for me and my fantasy team. But for reality baseball, I don't care as long as Seattle is victorious.
2007-04-11 18:31:21
163.   RIYank
Yeah, the day off gives them a break -- they don't actually need a fifth starter for a while.
Still, they'll miss the hell out of Moose. Wang's return would help a lot.

It's never easy.

2007-04-11 18:32:03
164.   seamus
folks need to stop expecting that every setback means Hughes will be called up.
2007-04-11 18:32:15
165.   C2Coke
Why are they all hamstring problems?? Is it just the weather before? At least what? 6 people had it?
2007-04-11 18:32:19
166.   ny2ca2dc
2 more ground outs for felix - one to go for the 1-hit CG!
2007-04-11 18:33:03
167.   RIYank
Two outs in the ninth for Felix.

Yeah, Henn's good for two innings...

2007-04-11 18:33:27
168.   ny2ca2dc
Henn looks like he's getting gassed
2007-04-11 18:33:43
169.   ny2ca2dc
And Felix finishes it with a K!
2007-04-11 18:34:12
170.   OldYanksFan
Final line for the Sox: 0-1-2
Tough, tough loss.
2007-04-11 18:34:20
171.   C2Coke
I think Wang and Karsten are both doing fine down in Tampa now, but the Yankees are being very very careful with them, which is a great thing even though starters are needed now.
2007-04-11 18:34:27
172.   Alex Belth
Wow, will Youk take an uglier swing all season? Felix was devastating. Wow.
2007-04-11 18:34:35
173.   Zack
Turned on the NESN game for the last two outs. The last pitch the King threw to Youk to K him was just plain filthy. And Fenway was dead dead silent, just awesome...
2007-04-11 18:34:37
174.   RIYank
165 Well, we have an old team, is all.

And Youk strikes out to end it in Fenway!

2007-04-11 18:35:34
175.   Vandelay Industries

It is Kevin Youkilis, so I am guessing yes.

2007-04-11 18:36:27
176.   Vandelay Industries
We need to put some runs on the board right here.
2007-04-11 18:36:52
177.   ny2ca2dc
Hell ya Hennessey! Didn't think he'd get out of that one with no scores!
2007-04-11 18:37:10
178.   RIYank
Cluck cluck!

Nice job, Sean. Who's next? Must be Bruney, right?

2007-04-11 18:37:19
179.   Zack
This performance by Henn should show Torre that he, too, has a belly full of guts, no? Or will Joe just run him out there until he fails?
2007-04-11 18:37:24
180.   Knuckles
You know ESPN's story tomorrow is the only way to beat Matsuzaka is a 1-hitter by the opponent...
2007-04-11 18:37:37
181.   C2Coke
174 Wang and Karsten are both young guys, no?

Felix was awesome.

2007-04-11 18:38:09
182.   nyyfan22
Okay... time to get some runs.

Melky singles, Damon walks, and Jete drives em both in.

2007-04-11 18:38:31
183.   RIYank
Um, three eggs for Henn. Hm.

I'll work on the Henn references.

2007-04-11 18:39:06
184.   C2Coke
Couldn't Sean Henn get a start if needed?
2007-04-11 18:39:29
185.   seamus
[183[ which came first? The Chicken or the Henn?
2007-04-11 18:39:41
186.   seamus
ok, that didn't make any sense
2007-04-11 18:39:50
187.   RIYank
181 Hm, right. Also hammies.

Nobody warming -- Henn will start the sixth? Is that wise?

2007-04-11 18:39:57
188.   kdw
Hey, ESPN has picked up YES feed until 10 (Sox game ended early).
2007-04-11 18:40:34
189.   Zack
Um, isn't that Ramon Ortiz on the mound there? Um, hello, earth to Yankees, come in?
2007-04-11 18:40:44
190.   C2Coke
187 There are 4 more innings. Get whatever possible outta all relievers...
2007-04-11 18:41:02
191.   Vandelay Industries
OH NO! This means the entire country will be exposed to Michael Kay, if only for a short time.
2007-04-11 18:41:18
192.   RIYank
184 Well, this practically is a start.
185 No, not really. But keep trying.

We need an Abreu walk here.

2007-04-11 18:41:47
193.   ny2ca2dc
awesome, YES feed on ESPN, thanks 188!
2007-04-11 18:41:57
194.   RIYank
Johnny hustle!
2007-04-11 18:42:24
195.   nyyfan22
190 I agree. Run him out for the 6th. If he gets a man in scoring position, then go to the pen. But if he can pull it through for 3 more oots, then by all means...
2007-04-11 18:42:40
196.   RIYank
Dang. Nice whack, Donuts. Oh well.
2007-04-11 18:42:45
197.   ny2ca2dc
got away with something on that steal... damn, almost made use of it...
2007-04-11 18:42:47
198.   Vandelay Industries
He was safe even without the drop. 2B umps have been awful the past few years.
2007-04-11 18:43:39
199.   ny2ca2dc
195 I duno, we got an off day today & a 1 run game, would be nice to win this one ...
2007-04-11 18:43:53
200.   Alex Belth
That was one sweet, big league catch by Torii. Made it look easy.
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2007-04-11 18:43:54
201.   seamus
we've been hitting the ball hard a fair amount but right at guys. kind of stinks.
2007-04-11 18:44:15
202.   RIYank
So now I'm seriously wishing that Mo hadn't pitched yesterday. We could get maybe five outs from him today otherwise, and they may be sorely needed.
2007-04-11 18:45:11
203.   RIYank
Oh, I get it now. Mauer and Morneau both lefties, that's why Henn is still in.
2007-04-11 18:46:28
204.   RIYank
Uh. Of course, he had to get through the powerful Nick Punto first. Ugh.
2007-04-11 18:46:35
205.   ny2ca2dc
2007-04-11 18:47:39
206.   OldYanksFan
Goose eggs for Henn?
Casey had Moose Skaron take ballet lessons, something Giambi could use. More important, I don't know why these teams don't have regular Yoga routines/practices. Some of these hammy injuries could be avoided.
2007-04-11 18:47:39
207.   yankz
Henn's giving out. How did the offense shut down all of a sudden? Arms tired from the first two games?
2007-04-11 18:47:56
208.   ny2ca2dc
Even Kay thinks it's stupid for the batting champ to sac bunt...
2007-04-11 18:48:51
209.   RIYank
Ah! I love Ron Gardenhire.
Proctor for one batter? Interesting.
2007-04-11 18:50:32
210.   RIYank
208 Hee hee.
So infield in against Cuddyer, dangerous. I give Scotty a less that 50% chance of getting out of the inning without a run.
2007-04-11 18:51:02
211.   OldYanksFan
A beavers tell will literally curve and grow up into their heads if they don't 'chew' regularly. There are many animals in the animal kingdom who's lives depend on regular routines.
Here come EDSP!
2007-04-11 18:51:23
212.   OldYanksFan
that 'teeth'
2007-04-11 18:51:38
213.   RIYank
I swear I wrote that before he hit it.

I think Morneau should bunt.

2007-04-11 18:51:52
214.   Alex Belth
Proctor makes a mistake and pays for it.
2007-04-11 18:51:55
215.   OldYanksFan
Shit. Bring in the beaver.
2007-04-11 18:52:21
216.   nick
Damn--I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Scotty never gets his ERA below 5 this year...I think Joe burned him last year--
2007-04-11 18:52:50
217.   Alex Belth
Proctor falls behind 2-0...Is he gunna give up a dinger here?
2007-04-11 18:53:07
218.   JimCobain
Looks like Proctor is trying to throw a double play instead of just throwing the ball.
2007-04-11 18:53:16
219.   ny2ca2dc
Procter only in the low 90's, 91-92... wasn't he high 90's last year, like 95-97
2007-04-11 18:53:41
220.   ny2ca2dc
Oh, gee, thanks YES guys. wow
2007-04-11 18:54:45
221.   Alex Belth
I wuz wrong.
2007-04-11 18:55:02
222.   JimCobain
I feel a two out single coming for some reason...
2007-04-11 18:55:36
223.   ny2ca2dc
nice curve @ 70... beaut
2007-04-11 18:55:58
224.   ny2ca2dc
oohh, like that overhead view
2007-04-11 18:56:15
225.   BklynBmr
217 I think that's the first time ever you didn't call it right ;-) I was seriously waiting for it...
2007-04-11 18:56:27
226.   RIYank
Okay, good enough.
Now some of our liners have to go in between, and we're in business!
2007-04-11 18:58:05
227.   BklynBmr
222 Time to think positive, brah. I feel a crooked number from the visitors coming on...
2007-04-11 18:58:36
228.   nyyfan22
LET'S GO YANKEES! (clap, clap, clap clap clap)
2007-04-11 18:59:26
229.   ny2ca2dc
damn, ESPN guys saying that King Felix needed only 85 pitches for all 9 innings....
2007-04-11 19:00:36
230.   RIYank
Baseball is weird.
2007-04-11 19:01:54
231.   Zack
Clearly Joe went for the "abuse Henn until he gives me an excuse never to use him again" method. ALl in all damn good job by him. Proctor, on the other hand, clearly needs to read that article in the Times from a few days ago about the pitcher who threw from both sides...
2007-04-11 19:02:13
232.   Alex Belth
First Bobby and then Giambi...damn..
2007-04-11 19:03:02
233.   OldYanksFan
Well... Jason is definitely spraying the ball around more this year
2007-04-11 19:03:40
234.   ny2ca2dc
Hip Hip
2007-04-11 19:04:47
235.   OldYanksFan
Dice-K Ortiz?
2007-04-11 19:06:01
236.   Zack
This really isn't all that surprising. The Yanks are infuriating like this all the time. hey, just remember, Steve Traschal...
2007-04-11 19:07:31
237.   Alex Belth
Hold it like an Egg, Viz, hold it like an egg when you throw it to first!
2007-04-11 19:10:06
238.   Max Nomad
Cano with the Bowa-patented TWO-handed catch.
2007-04-11 19:12:25
239.   Alex Belth
Minky Dinky Dog!
2007-04-11 19:12:31
240.   Max Nomad
2007-04-11 19:12:40
241.   nyyfan22
Haran, Blanton and Harden this weekend.

Holy shite that was a sweet catch by Doug.

2007-04-11 19:12:47
242.   ny2ca2dc
Looks like minky will be around for a while
2007-04-11 19:13:03
243.   Max Nomad
That'll help promote that platoon.
2007-04-11 19:13:45
244.   C2Coke
MlB.TV is a good 2 minutes late...
2007-04-11 19:14:31
245.   Max Nomad
My MLB.TV is only a few seconds behind
2007-04-11 19:15:17
246.   seamus
i seem to be fine with my mlbtv
2007-04-11 19:16:01
247.   ny2ca2dc
Man, this is awful - at least the Daniel Cabrera 1-hitter last September was vs a pitcher with some talent, now we're getting shut down by a certified scrub.
2007-04-11 19:16:03
248.   C2Coke
229 I know he was efficient but 85 pitches for all 9 innings, 1 hit, no runs scored. A gem.
2007-04-11 19:16:16
249.   LI yankee
244 Mine is around 10-15 seconds behind
2007-04-11 19:16:25
250.   Max Nomad
I hate that Ortiz is still pitching. Didn't he flirt with a nono last year? Lost it in the 9th?
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2007-04-11 19:16:36
251.   RIYank
Melky still hitting line drives. I mean, I'd like to see one land, but it's good to see anyway.
2007-04-11 19:16:43
252.   nyyfan22
You guys watching on - you have to live in a non-local zip code, right? Do they make you verify your CC# before you can watch?
2007-04-11 19:17:03
253.   ny2ca2dc
Man, ALL these hit RIGHT at guys...
2007-04-11 19:17:20
254.   C2Coke
245 Really? When the inning is done, let me know, and I will see where my MLB.TV is...
2007-04-11 19:17:59
255.   C2Coke
252 No, I think they check you IP location. Not just zip code.
2007-04-11 19:18:53
256.   mehmattski
252 They used my CC address (which is NJ) for Mosaic, but my IP address (in NC) for regular
2007-04-11 19:18:59
257.   Max Nomad
252 My ZIP and IP are both on the no fly list, but I still get it.
2007-04-11 19:19:19
258.   seamus
254 my inning ended about 30 seconds ago.
2007-04-11 19:20:06
259.   C2Coke
258 Mine just did...ok maybe not 2 minutes ...1 minute?
2007-04-11 19:20:46
260.   mehmattski
Well, welcome to Tie Game On the Road Land... where Torre will hold out on pitching Mo even in high leverage situations.
2007-04-11 19:21:02
261.   seamus
259 may between 1 an 2 minutes for you.
2007-04-11 19:21:11
262.   RIYank
Unbelievable. Classic Farns.
2007-04-11 19:21:14
263.   Alex Belth
Way to go Farnsworth.
2007-04-11 19:21:35
264.   Alex Belth
Ya big fat dope. Ya's gunna blow the game, don't ya know?
2007-04-11 19:22:00
265.   OldYanksFan
These guys are making it hard for me too really enjoy the Sox game.
2007-04-11 19:22:40
266.   ny2ca2dc
Now he'll strike out the side. or give up a homer

what shit! damnit, he was out! (er i want him to have been)

2007-04-11 19:23:25
267.   C2Coke
260 But he did use Mo in the 9th on the Road a few times last year...regardless of who pitches, the Yanks' gotta score. This game is a bit boring to go into extra innings.


2007-04-11 19:23:39
268.   RIYank
Oh I'm lovin' this.
If it were a playoff game, not so much. But this is good baseball.
2007-04-11 19:23:44
269.   ny2ca2dc
265 Damn, you'z a tough customer
2007-04-11 19:25:43
270.   RIYank
Saw that coming down Main St., huh? Once Farns walked a midget.
2007-04-11 19:25:57
271.   C2Coke
Is Farns wearing glasses?
2007-04-11 19:26:06
272.   ny2ca2dc
well, at lest we wont be up all night...
2007-04-11 19:26:08
273.   Alex Belth
Nice going Farnsworth.
2007-04-11 19:26:58
274.   mehmattski
Why do I still feel like the NY Post is going to blame this on A-Rod, somehow?

Just once, I'd like the back cover to be "Farnsworthless!"

2007-04-11 19:26:59
275.   nyyfan22
I'm glad I didn't keep score on this game, cause right about now I'd be ruining my scorebook.


2007-04-11 19:27:13
276.   C2Coke
The good old Farnsworth we all "know and love."
2007-04-11 19:28:09
277.   ny2ca2dc
Looks like all we'll have to do is rally against Noe Nathan..... No problem, right?

This is payback for winning that O's game...

2007-04-11 19:28:31
278.   C2Coke
264 Alex, you said it...
2007-04-11 19:28:33
279.   LI yankee
At least we now have a pretty good idea the weak link of the bullpen
2007-04-11 19:28:34
280.   RIYank
No longer enjoyable.

Wow, Farnsworth, what a loser today.

2007-04-11 19:28:46
281.   Alex Belth
batting practice
2007-04-11 19:29:00
282.   ny2ca2dc
that's it, going to turn this shit off....
2007-04-11 19:29:05
283.   nyyfan22
Everytime they show Ortiz in the dugout I hope that the roof collapses on him.
2007-04-11 19:29:15
284.   Zack
Ugh, Farnsworth. This is totally one of those infuriating games that pisses me off so much
2007-04-11 19:29:22
285.   yankz
274 "A-Fraud picks great day to end homer streak"
2007-04-11 19:29:22
286.   seamus
farnsworth looks flat.
2007-04-11 19:29:47
287.   C2Coke
Farns should have came on three innings ago to save Henn and Protor's arms.
2007-04-11 19:29:48
288.   Max Nomad
At least strike out mr k hunter
2007-04-11 19:29:57
289.   Alex Belth
Break out the whupping stick
2007-04-11 19:30:24
290.   Max Nomad
Greatest. Comeback. Against. Nathan. EVER.
2007-04-11 19:30:36
291.   seamus
farns just has nothing on his pitches.
2007-04-11 19:31:17
292.   yankz
You know, the O only has 3 hits. It shouldn't have been a close game (Ramon Ortiz!)
2007-04-11 19:31:44
293.   OldYanksFan
Wow... this got ugly FAST!
2007-04-11 19:32:21
294.   nyyfan22
274 No need to wait for the Post in the AM, just check in on Pete Abe's blog in a few hours.
2007-04-11 19:32:26
295.   C2Coke
285 If A-Fraud hits another walk-off grand slam. He's gonna get that raise Bora will be asking.
2007-04-11 19:32:51
296.   williamnyy23
Why did it take Torre 4 runs to lift Farnsworth. It was apparent he had nothing from the first batter. These are the kinds of moves (or lack of moves) where Torre's managing really hurts the Yankees.
2007-04-11 19:33:01
297.   fansince77
There's a fight at the bat rack! Who's next?
Farnsworth just singlehandedly lost this for the Yankees. If you are a Major League pitcher - there is really no excuse for a four pitch walk...that is sad...for a high school pitcher that is sad.
2007-04-11 19:33:17
298.   mehmattski
295 That'd be quite a feat, down by four runs on the road. Mostly the on the road part.
2007-04-11 19:33:31
299.   Mattpat11
It doesn't feel like a baseball season until I can point out what a shitty late inning reliever Kyle Farnsworth is.


2007-04-11 19:34:18
300.   Alex Belth
Bedtime for Bozo
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2007-04-11 19:34:43
301.   seamus
299 Farns is sometimes brilliant and sometimes awful. It is frustrating.
2007-04-11 19:35:16
302.   C2Coke
298 Well, you know, now that I no longer have to pay attention to this game, I have time to dream.
2007-04-11 19:35:24
303.   BklynBmr
4 runs? No problem...
2007-04-11 19:36:02
304.   C2Coke
301 And with absolutely no predictable pattern.
2007-04-11 19:38:07
305.   Mattpat11
301 I consider sometimes good sometimes bad to be a bad late inning reliever. If you're bringing a man in the 8th to shut a team down, I'd rather not feel its a coin flip.

Part of the problem is pin straight fastballs tend to be hittable when they're not 100 mph.

2007-04-11 19:39:03
306.   Mattpat11
Joe Nathan's fake and bake tan should be illegal. Its distracting to me, the viewer. I can't imagine what the hitters see when that orange man throws a ball at them.
2007-04-11 19:39:24
307.   yankz
Yahoo still uses Abreu's Phillies picture.
2007-04-11 19:39:24
308.   seamus
305 in general yes, but if you look around you'll see that most late inning relievers are sometimes good, sometimes bad. which isn't to say farnsworth is good...
2007-04-11 19:40:05
309.   yankz
306 Dude yeah, I can see it in his Yahoo picture. Gross.
2007-04-11 19:41:29
310.   C2Coke
307, 309 Guess what? the Gameday picture of Abreu is no better.
2007-04-11 19:42:26
311.   yankz
310 Really? Maybe he just hates cameras.
2007-04-11 19:42:32
312.   mehmattski
That wasn't a grand slam! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
2007-04-11 19:42:39
313.   yanster
I can't tell you how bad Farnswacker makes my indigestion. Three tums and just seeing his name and I'm still on fire. And what can Torre do about it? THIS is wacker's job. four runs with one out is astonishing. This is cashman's problem.
2007-04-11 19:42:46
314.   Knuckles
nice rip, Alex.
at least he's staying somewhat locked in.
2007-04-11 19:42:50
315.   yankz
Shafted, I tell ya.
2007-04-11 19:43:05
316.   seamus
ok. so arod just kills.
2007-04-11 19:43:07
317.   Mattpat11
Hulk Hogan is out there pitching. I've completely lost my concentration. This bad fake tan has thrown me off my game.
2007-04-11 19:43:16
318.   Shaun P
296 297 I remember seeing a Yanks-Sox game at Fenway back in 2000, where Stanton didn't just walk one guy on 4 straight balls, he did it back-to-back. Then he threw a strike to the next guy (even the Sox fans applauded that one) - but his next pitch was a double, IIRC. That was a long night; Cone started and was not sharp.

Ah, here's the game:

I still remember screaming at Torre from the right field roof at Fenway to get somebody up and fast, 'cause Stanton had nothing. He didn't listen then, either.

2007-04-11 19:43:48
319.   Max Nomad
Giambi's had it rough lately
2007-04-11 19:44:47
320.   C2Coke
Arod looks relieved on the 2nd he's off the hook. Funny.

Well, night all.

2007-04-11 19:46:00
321.   C2Coke
I understand the fans' excitements, but those announcers sound like the past two days didn't happen.
2007-04-11 19:46:43
322.   Mattpat11
Oh well.
2007-04-11 19:46:59
323.   RIYank
Night, all.
Hope Moose isn't out too long.
2007-04-11 19:47:57
324.   seamus
2007-04-11 19:48:43
325.   BklynBmr
A series win on the road. I'll take it. See youze in Oaktown...
2007-04-11 19:49:16
326.   williamnyy23
When you don't hit, you can't expect to win, but this was another game where more astute managing would have given the Yankees a better chance to win.
2007-04-11 19:49:34
327.   BklynBmr
321 You mean the two fans behind the microphones?
2007-04-11 19:51:09
328.   C2Coke
327 My are's those two.
2007-04-11 20:10:08
329.   BklynBmr
328 I think those two guys do most of the Yankees' road games, come to think of it. The accents and scripts all sound the same...
2007-04-12 01:19:40
330.   Vandelay Industries
Look, Farnsworth just isn't psychologically built for high pressure sitations. He may get past a few of them, but taken as a whole, I don't want this clown pitching a tie game. Torre has to learn when to use this guy. 6 mil. or no 6 mil., the guy just has to pitch with a lead. He is not the set-up guy for MO, he just isn't. He's got the stuff, no doubt about it, he's just touched. I watched him in Chicago, he is what he is. 95MPH isn't the only thing that matters in pitching.

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