Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Let's Get Physical
2007-01-08 05:43
by Alex Belth

Randy Johnson and the Diamondbacks agreed to a two-year, $26 million extension yesterday. According to Peter Botte in The Daily News:

The Associated Press reported his new deal as two years for $26 million, with $12 million in signing bonuses spread over the next four years ($3.5 million, $0.5 million, $4 million and $4 million). Johnson also will earn salaries of $4 million this season, half of which will be paid by the Yankees, and $10 million in 2008. Arizona also owes him more than $40 million in deferred payments and interest through 2012 from his previous stay with the D-Backs.

The Big Unit will have a physical today. If everything is copacetic, the trade will be complete.

Also, Miguel Cairo signed a one-year, $750,000 deal this weekend, to return as the Bombers' utility infielder. He needs to pass a physcial before the deal is official. This likely spells the end of Bernie Williams' fine career in pinstripes. While this is not a shock, I am curious to see what how the Yankees handle Bernie. Will he retire? Will he go someplace else for a couple of few years? Which one of these?

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2007-01-08 05:58:41
1.   Yankee Fan In Boston
cairo is my repeating nightmare. the one that has you waking up in a cold sweat (i'll miss you, mr. brown) crying out for your mommy.


2007-01-08 06:13:17
2.   Sliced Bread
My guess is Bernie will officially retire before Spring Training, but will be invited to Tampa as a special instructor so he can say goodbye to his teammates and coaches.

He'll throw out the first pitch of the season at the Stadium, and will be honored with a plaque in Monument Park sometime this summer.

Thanks for the memories, #51.

2007-01-08 06:19:05
3.   thelarmis
as i just read #2 comment, i had the flashback of the last game of the season (?) when bernie was managing - put himself in late in the game as a pinch hitter and stroked a double!

i'm nightguy, so this AM business doesn't sit well with me - sorry if i have my facts all mixed up. : ~

2007-01-08 06:26:33
4.   Sliced Bread
It would be great if Murcer can throw out a ceremonial pitch in April, too.

Perhaps he and Bernie could share the Opening Day honor.

3 you are correct. it was a pinch hit double.

2007-01-08 06:27:51
5.   Sliced Bread
Why do I have the feeling Murcer has a better chance of throwing a pitch at the Stadium in April than Pavano?
2007-01-08 06:30:32
6.   thelarmis
4 murcer can throw it to bernabe!

5 i 2nd that feeling...

2007-01-08 06:32:56
7.   tommyl
Couldn't they do something like they did with Al Leiter last year? Invite him to ST, let him get a nice basehit and then take him out where he'll retire? Didn't they let Leiter pitch an inning or two and then relieve him?
2007-01-08 06:37:43
8.   Yankee Fan In Boston
5 pavano will surprise some (most) people this year. probably even himself. i predict a league average season from the guy. i have decided that somebody needs to be in his corner. i'm that guy.

(yes, this is based on absolutely zero statistical or logical data.)

"comeback carl" in '07. stranger things have happened. i will be putting out all sorts of positive energy for him, hoping that something sticks. crossing fingers, burning a pair of crutches before his first start, etc.

i might even get a pavano t-shirt.

anyone else want to climb onto the pavano bandwagon? there's plenty of room. c'mon...

2007-01-08 06:40:42
9.   thelarmis
"i might even get a pavano t-shirt."

NO, don't do it! then again, do they even make those?! ; )

Quest cut his locks a bit, preparing for his Yankees introduction...

2007-01-08 06:42:56
10.   Sliced Bread
8 I'll jump on the Pavano Bandwagon when it doesn't look so much like the "Bring out yer dead!" cart from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail."

I kid, I kid. Here's hoping your Comeback Carl optimism pays off.

2007-01-08 06:50:36
11.   Yankee Fan In Boston
9 i was wondering if they made the pavano t-shirt, too. i can always custom order one.

yeah, igawa (my new favorite left-handed japanese yankee pitcher, due in large part to the SI interview) is looking sharp.

and sliced, you know that as soon as comeback carl toes the rubber (and yes, his toe will be just fine), you'll be climbing aboard anyway. don't fight it. don't hate.

all aboard.

2007-01-08 06:52:11
12.   Yankee Fan In Boston
11 here's that igawa interview, just in case anyone missed it. hilarious.

2007-01-08 06:52:18
13.   JoeInRI
8 A healthy, motivated Pavano can only help this team. He is capable of being league average +, IMHO. And if he can do that, particularly in September and October, the Bombers will be tough. That he will do that . . . is the rub.

I won't jump on the bandwagon just yet, but I'll walk along side, for now.

2007-01-08 06:53:48
14.   Yankee Fan In Boston
13 i could use someone to ride shotgun, joe. i'll save a spot for you. shotgun sound good?
2007-01-08 06:58:36
15.   Bama Yankee
Here's a picture of the Pavano shirt:
2007-01-08 07:00:09
16.   Sliced Bread
15 6 points for Bama!
2007-01-08 07:00:34
17.   jkay
Cairo has a shot at some bonus money....

"In addition to his salary, he would earn $50,000 bonuses for 350 and 400 plate appearances."

2007-01-08 07:00:38
18.   Bama Yankee
14 Riding shotgun on the Pavano bandwagon might be more dangerous than going hunting with Dick Cheney... ;-)
2007-01-08 07:03:09
19.   Yankee Fan In Boston
15 alright, i admit that was funny.

get the jokes out of your system. this is c.c.'s year.

just remember who was ahead of the curve on this one: brian ca$hman, joe in RI, and me.

(yeah, i've pulled joe up onto the bandwagon without his expressed consent. sorry, sir, but you'll thank me later.)

2007-01-08 07:10:31
20.   rbj
Maybe Dick Cheney can take Tom Coughlin hunting next time. Please. F'ing Gints.

2 That sounds about right. Bernie's got enough else going for him that he doesn't need to spend a year or two playing for the Devil Rays.

Jeez, just how much money is Randy going to be raking in over the next few years.

2007-01-08 07:11:23
21.   Yankee Fan In Boston
9 no. the soon to be coveted pavano t-shirt is not offered at


2007-01-08 07:32:57
22.   JoeInRI
14 How 'bout Popgun?
2007-01-08 07:50:01
23.   Yankee Fan In Boston
22 i'm just happy to have some company. popgun it is. welcome aboard and happy to have you.

20 i read somewhere over the weekend that bernie could potentially end up playing with the mets if he doesn't get a spot with the yankees. they cited his friendship with willie as a basis for their reasoning. not likely. i haven't seen that anywhere else, and i doubt that bernie would do that to us.

2007-01-08 07:52:49
24.   Sliced Bread
Anybody else catch a whiff of the mysterious gas odor they're investigating in NYC?

Definitely smelled it in Times Square this morning.

I know it's a stretch but could the source be the Randy Johnson salary dump?

2007-01-08 07:57:02
25.   Yankee Fan In Boston
24 that, my friend, is the return of miguel cairo.

(and ca$hman was doing so well...)

2007-01-08 08:20:17
26.   jakewoods
Why would Bernie retire when he can get some team to pay him 4 mill for a yr of 300 at bats?

Play til you cant walk anymore.

2007-01-08 08:21:31
27.   Bama Yankee
I read where Mayor Bloomberg said "We are waiting for the gas to pass."

Sliced, are you helping the mayor with his material? ;-)

2007-01-08 08:23:01
28.   Bama Yankee
26 Unless you are Tiki Barber...
2007-01-08 08:27:05
29.   pistolpete
12 Wow, we may have found the Japanese Derek Jeter!
2007-01-08 08:38:38
30.   mehmattski
There was that Pavano "2006 game used hat" that was on auction at a couple months ago. Someone paid $100 for it. It was you, YFIB, wasn't it?

I am in the market for a new Yankees t-shirt though. I've had Brosius #18, Soriano (#33, not #12), and Jeter #2 (doesn't fit anymore) but the one I've worn so much the navy blue has faded to more of a steel blue... is my trusty #42. Any suggestions?

2007-01-08 08:39:24
31.   holmesy007
I did not enjoy waking up Sunday to find that the Yanks resigned Cairo. I would have liked to see Loretta in the utility role but I think Ca$hman had to save a few bucks for the (eventual) pursuit of the Rocket.
2007-01-08 08:41:11
32.   Shaun P
22 I think Bernie will make a graceful exit and announce his retirement. That's what O'Neill did, and that's what Donnie Baseball did, when they both knew it was time.

28 Similarly, I respect Tiki's decision to walk away from pro football while he still can walk.

25 Not even Ca$hmoney is perfect.

2007-01-08 08:45:58
33.   JoeInRI
23 No problem. Ain't easy being a Yankee fan up here.
2007-01-08 08:47:29
34.   Bama Yankee
30 How about #28? (you gotta include the question mark to get the full effect).
2007-01-08 08:49:07
35.   Yankee Fan In Boston
30 i wish i had purchased that hat, so that one day i could donate it to that little museum they have over in cooperstown, where it will soon belong.

i suggest ordering a pavano shirt.

also, i have been taking some heat in these parts for my other custom yankee t-shirt idea. i was going to order a yankees shirt, but have them put "ortiz 34" on the back... to confuse my neighbors.

i was so thrilled at the potential of the idea that i told some of my friends here. they warned me not to do so. the look of violence in their eyes was shocking. i was told i wouldn't make it around my block in one piece.

i might still do it. but i'm gong to need to exercize and get in shape a bit first. (at least to add some speed.)

those are my shirt recommendations. i hope they were helpful.

2007-01-08 08:49:38
36.   dianagramr
32 Donnie Baseball would have come back, but the Yanks pre-empted that by trading for Tino Martinez.

(If I recall correctly)

psst .... Alex???? .... isn't it supposed to be "Physical"? .... or is that some pun/spoonerism I'm not getting?

2007-01-08 08:55:27
37.   mehmattski
34 Of course, most people would just assume it's a Melky shirt, but only a chosen few would know the cosmic significance. I was actually leaning towards #22, because I want to be sure that my choice will be a guy likely to play for the Yanks for a long long time. I am also eagerly awaiting the assignment of Phil Hughes' number.
2007-01-08 08:56:28
38.   Shaun P
36 Exactly. Bernie would return, but the Yanks have Melky, which pre-empts Bernie's return. Hence, Bernie should retire.

(Admittedly I'm glossing over the "Mattingly to St Louis" rumors that floated because #23 didn't officially announce his retirement until sometime in 1996 (or was it early '97?) but my hope is Bernie will not do anything like that.)

2007-01-08 08:59:20
39.   Yankee Fan In Boston
37 the rumor i heard was that hughes was hoping that wright would be shipped off so that he could swipe his number. that was the speculation over at phil's website's message board, anyway.
2007-01-08 09:07:51
40.   dianagramr
38 ... this might sound blasphemous on this board, but Bernie would be a nice 4th/5th outfielder for the Mets for one year

(IOW, Bernie should retire when he wants to retire, not when one team decides he isn't worth a contract)

2007-01-08 09:11:30
41.   pistolpete
36 I never took the rumors about Mattingly playing for anyone else seriously, because IIRC he was about 90% sure he would retire by the end of the '95 season & the playoffs.

If you watch his biography, he was saying his goodbyes on the plane trip home from Seattle.

2007-01-08 09:13:42
42.   mehmattski
Of course, if Mattingly wanted to play first base in 2007, I think there'd be an opening... (Gets out fire extinguisher for Schteeve)
2007-01-08 09:17:01
43.   JL25and3
10 In other words, not so much a bandwagon as a band-gurney.
2007-01-08 09:21:42
44.   The Mick 536
Like the word copacetic.

If Miggie earns a bonus for being up 300-400 times, we be in trouble.

2007-01-08 09:25:27
45.   JL25and3
17 If Cairo gets 350 plate appearances, we're in for a rocky season indeed.

And I'd still rather have Bernie than Mxyzptlk.

2007-01-08 09:27:27
46.   Shaun P
40 "Bernie should retire when he wants to retire, not when one team decides he isn't worth a contract"

That I agree with. But I think Bernie would be an awful 4th/5th OF for any team, especially an NL team. He is finished as an outfielder, however sad it is, its true - and has been for awhile.

2007-01-08 09:30:50
47.   Shaun P
45 Ah, but Torre won't be tempted to put Mxyzptlk in CF over Melky when Damon needs a day off. Nor will Torre be tempted to play Mxyzptlk in RF over Melky when Abreu needs a day off.

In truth, this is a horrible lesser of two evils. But getting Melky playing time is worth Mxyzptlk over Bernie.

2007-01-08 09:31:08
48.   dianagramr
46 "That I agree with. But I think Bernie would be an awful 4th/5th OF for any team, especially an NL team. He is finished as an outfielder, however sad it is, its true - and has been for awhile."


Agreed .... for the most part

Betcha he could still patrol LF in Fenway once a week .... (I kid I kid)

2007-01-08 09:37:34
49.   Jim Dean
Is there really an on-going debate as to the relative suckitude of MCI, Cairo, and Bernie on the team?

Please, someone, light me on fire.

2007-01-08 09:38:13
50.   mehmattski
Man, I thought Sliced was kidding in 24, but nope, there's a mysterious odor in NYC. Any scoop on it from the New Yorkers? From the article:

"The stench was reported as far away as Newark, NJ."

Funny, usually that sort of thing goes the other way around...

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2007-01-08 09:39:30
51.   tmcm650
Joe, Where in RI? I'm a CT Yanks fan, but I work in Middletown, RI. I like it - definitely a very target rich environment! And the poor schmucks don't even realize how much they paint the bullseye on their chests!
2007-01-08 09:42:05
52.   YankeeInMichigan
Change in topic:'s 13 eligible HoF voters unanimously selected Gossage (along with Ripkin and Gwynn). Perhaps this is finally Goose's year.
2007-01-08 09:45:36
53.   YankeeInMichigan
Forgot to include URL with last post:
2007-01-08 09:54:06
54.   JL25and3
47 But Bernie would just be a once-a-week problem. We're going to be seeing Mxyzptlk out there Every. Damn. Day.
2007-01-08 09:54:35
55.   JL25and3
49 What can I say - slow offseason.
2007-01-08 10:02:20
56.   Yankee Fan In Boston
49 55 i just think it's remarkable that RJ is already so far in the rearview mirror that this is the topic of discussion.

well, this and the triumphant return of carl pavano.

...and us charter members of "Pavano's Posse". or "Carl's Crew," i'll leave that up to the rest of the club's members.

2007-01-08 10:02:21
57.   Yankee Fan In Boston
49 55 i just think it's remarkable that RJ is already so far in the rearview mirror that this is the topic of discussion.

well, this and the triumphant return of carl pavano.

...and us charter members of "Pavano's Posse". or "Carl's Crew," i'll leave that up to the rest of the club's members.

2007-01-08 10:03:06
58.   Yankee Fan In Boston
56 57 whaa? sorry.
2007-01-08 10:04:28
59.   YankeeInMichigan
55 Yes, but it will be a fun Spring Training, with only 10 spots on the pitching staff (Wang, Pettitte, Moose, Igawa, Pavano, Rivera, Farnsworth, Myers, Vizcaino and Proctor) effectively sealed. That leaves Beam, Britton, Bruney, Henn, Karstens, Rassner and Sanchez to fight it out for the last two spots. Let's hope that the Stanton-Quantril-Karsay days are over for good.
2007-01-08 10:04:58
60.   Jim Dean
55 Sorry, it wasn't a comment on you or any of the posters - just the fact that's the status of the team and the management that such turds should ever enter into the discussion.

Silly me to be dreaming of Chris Gomez earlier in the off-season.

Now where did I put those matches?

2007-01-08 10:12:39
61.   Shaun P
54 Except that we all know Torre would find a way to get Bernie out there more than once a week.

The Yanks' roster is thisclose to being the most Torre-proof its ever been. No Sturtze, no Bernie, and no shortage of righty power relievers if EDSP's right arm falls off. And an effective reserve OF in Melky. I don't wish him harm, but if only Cairo could be strapped to Pavano for a week - with him out of the picture, the roster would be Torre-proof.

If the price of this is Mxyzptlk - who might 'hit' himself out of a job - I'll gladly pay it.

2007-01-08 10:23:47
62.   JL25and3
61 I hear where you're coming from, and it's hard to disagree. Part of it is that, if it's a choice between several guys who suck, I actually have some warm and fuzzy feelings towards Bernie.

Mxyzptlk is just the sort of perennially overrated player who grates on my nerves. And, unfortunately, it will be almost impossible for him to GIDP his way out of a job on Joe's team. After all, He's Been There, which is almost as good as a bellyful of guts.

2007-01-08 10:24:24
63.   dianagramr

Would his fan club be
"PavanomasTequilaMonsters" perhaps?

2007-01-08 10:27:38
64.   Yankee Fan In Boston
63 get it all out of your system.

comeback carl will laugh last.

2007-01-08 10:42:52
65.   dianagramr

Believe me, I want Pavanomas to succeed, but I don't think he will, cause even in his stellar Marlins season, his rate stats were helped immensely by the defense behind him and the ballpark, and the Yankees don't provide anything like that in 2007.

So ... take one injury-plagued pitcher, add in some decent but not great defense, and you have 150 IP, 9-7, 5.00 ERA .... maybe ... at best ...

2007-01-08 10:43:34
66.   SF Yanks
I may be thrown in the fire for this one but I would love to see Bern play one more season. I don't care if he can't reach first base with a throw while standing on it. He could get 500 AB and I probably wouldn't care. He's been my favorite for awhile and it's hard to let that go.

-- 500AB may be a little extensive.

He goes, then Mo, Posada. Where's my '96 Yankees?

2007-01-08 10:51:15
67.   Schteeve
This is the Fire Marshall, posting from Schteeve's computer. Just thought you all might like to know that early this morning, Schteeve self immolated, when he read a suggestion that Melky Cabrera, Yogi Berra, Scott Brosius, Bernie Williams, Hideki Matsui, Johnny Damon, and Doug Mint-kay-vitch (Hey I'm a fire marshall, not a spelling bee champ) should all split time manning the "cold corner" in 2007.

Way to go Bronx Banter.

2007-01-08 10:53:10
68.   Yankee Fan In Boston
65 he'll be mostly healthy. his legs are now the same length. that can't hurt his chances... he'll tread water. even that would be a comeback of epic proportions.

i choose to believe this, and will continue to sing his praises until. you don't have to.

positive thoughts... positive thoughts...

by the way, today is carl's 31st birthday. happy birthday, ace.

2007-01-08 10:54:31
69.   Yankee Fan In Boston
68 *...until i am forced to do otherwise.
2007-01-08 10:57:59
70.   markp
Pavano is a league average pitcher over the entire length of his career. He's better than half and not as good as half, though I think he's pitched when injured for some of that. If the latter is true he's probably better than average. If he can give us 150+ IP, he'll hold down a rotation spot quite nicely until we can get 1-2 of the kids into the rotation.
Considering his value right now, I hope he isn't traded for a few warm bodies even if we sign RC. Selling low and buying high-a trademark of recent Yankee FO moves-is exactly the opposite of how to run a team.
2007-01-08 11:01:39
71.   Yankee Fan In Boston
70 welcome to carl's crew/pavano's posse/the crazy legs, markp. it's great to have you with us.
2007-01-08 11:12:56
72.   JoeInRI
51 I work in West Kingston, but live in East Providence. And the place is lousy with Sox fans. There's a RIYank who posts on here too. Not sure where he's from.
2007-01-08 11:14:51
73.   JoeInRI
71 The Italian Stallion's Battalion?
2007-01-08 11:15:12
74.   JoeInRI
2007-01-08 11:20:12
75.   Yankee Fan In Boston
73 if only fasano was still around...

speaking of fan favorites, this is a little nugget from today's denver post:

"Maligned for never reaching his potential, (Karim) Garcia has dropped 20 pounds, regained his power and will decide today whether to sign a minor-league deal with the Rockies or the Philadelphia Phillies, according to his agent... Veteran pitcher Mike DeJean began throwing off a mound last week and remains open to returning to the Rockies. However, other clubs have shown interest, including the Yankees."

sorry, jim dean.

2007-01-08 11:24:19
76.   mehmattski
75 Regained his power?!? How do they know that? He hit a lot of homers playing as himself in MVP 2007? He increased his BSGFAR (Bullpen Security Guards Fought, Over Replacement)? Or maybe it was more of a physics thing, since Power = Work * Time, they just measured how long it took him to collate a 27 page document, or to make a Whopper.

I'm really skeptical of your article, YFIB, especially with the (Karim) in parenthesis... how do I know they weren't really referring to Jerry?

2007-01-08 11:24:55
77.   Yankee Fan In Boston
75 by the way, ISB beats all of my attempts put together.
2007-01-08 11:28:18
78.   Yankee Fan In Boston
76 i wouldn't have believed it either, had i not seen it myself.

here's that article:

you should check that out just to see the smug look of self-satisfaction on his face in the accompanying picture.

2007-01-08 11:29:32
79.   Yankee Fan In Boston
76 i just got the "jerry" mention. he is regaining his power as well.
2007-01-08 11:39:33
80.   OldYanksFan
I got the impression that DougOut was gonna platoon. If he rally sucks, he will end up being a LIDR. Maybe this will motivate Phillips or Josh to step up. We have 3 other guys (not inlcuding Miggy) who can play first, so while signing DougOut was a waste, I (for one) won't set myself on fire.

Miggy also sucks, but last year he saw only 222 ABS, and that was with Cano out for 6 weeks. We also have the kid we got in the RJ trade. For whats it worth, it was still sucky, but Miggy had an OPS 110 better with men on base. Again, he ain't gonna sink the ship. He's cheap, one year, versatile, + glove.

On a 25 man roster, do we need better then league average in all 25 slots? Dont we need to give Sox fans something to grasp onto?

2007-01-08 11:44:21
81.   Bama Yankee
76,78 Our boy Karim is making a comeback, baby!!! Maybe the Yankees should sign him and them move him to 1B (the Ghost of Schteeve just spontaneously combusted).

Hey, if YFIB is starting a Pavanomas bandwagon, then I gotta be charging up the batteries on the Karim Garcia bullpen golf cart right?

BTW, anyone else think that Karim owes some of us a little something for keeping his name out there while he was away in Japan? ;-)

But seriously, "Who is Karim Garcia?"

2007-01-08 11:46:46
82.   Bama Yankee
81 that should have been: then move him to 1B
Sorry, but there goes the GOS again...
2007-01-08 11:46:47
83.   bobtaco
This would be a great Jeopardy question:

Earlier in his career, the Arizona Diamondbacks traded him for eventual superstar Luis Gonzalez.


2007-01-08 11:48:52
84.   Yankee Fan In Boston
81 go for it, bama. let your freak flag fly.

the Italian Stallion's Battalion vs. the "karim garcia fan club to be named later"

we should have a rumble.

...or a party at chuck e. cheese's. i'd be okay with either.

2007-01-08 12:05:04
85.   mehmattski
83 Also: Mike DeJean was not only mentioned in the article posted by YFIB, but was also traded, straight up, for this player in 2004.
2007-01-08 12:05:49
86.   Yankee Fan In Boston
84 on second thought, we who associate ourselves with "ace" pavano might do well to avoid conflict. i humbly rescind the rumble challenge.
2007-01-08 12:10:39
87.   Bama Yankee
83 Who is Baby Fish Mouth?
I'll take "anal bum cover" for $1000 Mr. Trebek...

84 We're going with the "Latino Bambino's El Camino" and you name the bullpen and we'll be there. ;-)

Actually, I am kinda hungry so let's go with the Chuck E. Cheese party (plus my son would love it). Just keep Glass Carl away from the Whack-a-Mole...

2007-01-08 12:12:54
88.   Yankee Fan In Boston
87 "Latino Bambino's El Camino"


carl won't attend. we don't want to risk a dance dance revolution incident of season ending proportions.

2007-01-08 12:13:33
89.   Bama Yankee
86 Sorry, I didn't see that one before I posted 87. Probably a good idea, we wouldn't want Karim to violate the terms of his probation...
2007-01-08 12:29:06
90.   Chyll Will
87 Ill, say no to (up)Chuck E's, man! Think of the children!!

Take a day trip to Hershey during a 70 degree January weekend, but don't do Chuck E's. Didn't you know a whole movie franchise was inspired by someone who knowingly chose to eat there?

(For good pizza, try Mariella's on Lexington between 69th and 70th. Anybody got some best in the boros suggestions?)

2007-01-08 12:39:49
91.   Bama Yankee
90 Good point. Pavano would probably end up getting choked on an anchovy and some kid would throw a SkeeBall up around Karim's head causing a melee to spill over into the plastic ball pit..
2007-01-08 13:00:02
92.   Chyll Will
91 Of course, if anyone wants Carlcrash to get acclimated to toeing the rubber again, Chuck E's is a good place to start...
2007-01-08 13:02:32
93.   Chyll Will
Wowzers, they make kids eat anchovies??
2007-01-08 13:04:08
94.   Yankee Fan In Boston's front page features kei "quest" igawa in all his pinstriped glory.

welcome to the bigs, tiger.

2007-01-08 13:06:51
95.   Yankee Fan In Boston
91 92 i am disappointed in you. it is carl's birthday. let him have his chuck e. cheese's fun.

climb aboard the comeback carl bandwagon, chyll will.

2007-01-08 13:11:24
96.   YankeeInMichigan
Cuban import Juan Miranda will be 24 this April, so he's no baby. What are the chances of his making it to the Bronx (possibly mid-season) and sending Minky down the DFA route?
2007-01-08 13:19:48
97.   JL25and3
80 Platooning Mxyzptlk is a possibility, but I'll bet he gets the vast majority of the playing time. Joe doesn't like platooning, and he's not really very good at it; he'd much rather just write in a veteran's name and leave it there. Dougie also has no real righty-lefty differential, thereby enabling John Sterling to compare him with Hideki Matsui and Tino Martinez, and to say that "you can throw your lefty-righty nonsense right out the window." And on top of that...He's Been There, dontcha see?

I just hope Josh Phelps shows some fire in the belly in spring training. It's our best hope.

2007-01-08 13:20:18
98.   Chyll Will
95 The Grown-Up in me likes the idea of a well-rested and motivated Pavano making a comeback from the depths of Florida and writing the most storied comeback in Yankee history by pitching a complete game while A-Rod ropes his first clutch inside-the-park grand slam...

But the Kid in me says, "But I don't LIKE Chuck E. Cheese's-z-z-z-z!!!"

2007-01-08 13:24:16
99.   Chyll Will
98 "while A-Rod ropes his first clutch inside-the-park grand slam..."

...batting eighth!

2007-01-08 13:33:12
100.   Yankee Fan In Boston
98 "The Grown-Up in me likes the idea of a well-rested and motivated Pavano making a comeback..."

then the Italian Stallion's Battalion will be sending you some of our literature.

oh, that reminds me... we could use some literature. uh... hmmm...

well... in the meantime, here:

add about $4M, and it is essentially what we're hoping for.

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2007-01-08 13:33:16
101.   tommyl
99 No, PH after Miguel Cairo gets the start at 3B.
2007-01-08 13:38:50
102.   tommyl
100 Very funny. Is that what they've been doing to him in Arizona all winter?

I can see the intro now. Fade in to Pavano driving his Porsche in Florida. He hits a garbage truck. Fade out. Fade back in to him in the hospital rubbing his ribs, cue theme music...

2007-01-08 13:44:30
103.   Yankee Fan In Boston
102 tommyl, we in the Italian Stallion's Battalion could use a go-getter like yourself on the PR end of things. even though it springs forth from a newly-born excitement, i fear that i'm just being annoying in my efforts to spread our message of hope.

you could be our new recruiter... just tossing that out there, much like crazy legs himself will toss a few 8 inning outings come spring...

also, we are just 83 days away from opening day, people.

2007-01-08 13:49:25
104.   tommyl
103 How much does this PR position pay? or how many free tokens do I get when we go to chuck e cheez?
2007-01-08 13:56:21
105.   Yankee Fan In Boston
104 it is an incentive heavy deal. you will receive tokens based upon the number of members you recruit.

(i was originally going to base the number of tokens on comeback carl's innings pitched, but i can't afford that many tokens.)

also, your base salary will be three requests at the robotic band concert thing. you can't put a price on that. other than the $10 i'll have to slip the kid who flips the switch, but that isn't the point.

this is about ownership. the Italian Stallion's Battalion will be a part of carl's rise from the ashes.

2007-01-08 13:57:52
106.   tommyl
105 Wait, so now he's a Phoenix?
2007-01-08 13:59:17
107.   Yankee Fan In Boston
106hey, you're the one who mentioned arizona...
2007-01-08 14:01:18
108.   Yankee Fan In Boston
i'm heading home. goodnight, pavano fans, present and future.
2007-01-08 14:01:24
109.   tommyl
107 Well he is rehabbing there.
2007-01-08 14:02:10
110.   Yankee Fan In Boston
109 so you admit it!
2007-01-08 14:06:29
111.   tommyl
110 Admit what? I admit that he is supposedly working out there, but who knows, he could get bit by a scorpion or snake and be out for 4-6 weeks.
2007-01-08 15:37:52
112.   nemecizer
64 You know, I never really liked the Pavano signing and I hated the Wright signing. But I think YFIB has a point, I think if he is healthy (a BIG if) Pavano could put up league average numbers, and maybe better than league average wins with this lineup backing him up. The fact that he had a major body flaw develop (one leg 1 inch shorter than the other) and piled injury on top of injury trying adjust his mechanics to compensate makes some sense to me (although the bruised buttocks thing will always make me laugh).

Count me as a member of the Pavano band wagon. I predict 11 to 13 wins if he stays healthy and pitches on regular rotation for the whole season, and an ERA between 4.50 and 5.00.

2007-01-08 15:44:19
113.   nemecizer
Reading these comments, I now know two of the signs I will take to the Stadium this season.

When Kei Igawa pitchers, it will just say "Quest" in Hiragana (if my ex-girlfriend will translate).

When Pavanomas pitches, it will say "Italian Stallion Batallion".

Who knows, maybe one of the cameramen gets the references and puts me on TV....

2007-01-08 15:49:03
114.   tommyl
112 When did this body flaw develop? Why wasn't it a problem when he was a Marlin?

On a funnier note, if Pavano wins 15 games, who wants to put money on Michael Kay asking how we can replace those 15 wins next year?

2007-01-08 15:54:45
115.   kylepetterson
I'm thinking Pavano will pitch great for a month or 2 and then around the middle of April he'll burst into flames on the mount. When the fire is put out, we'll all find out the truth: That he is actaully not that good at pitching.
2007-01-08 16:17:28
116.   Shaun P
114 What amazes me about Kay and so many other sports personalities is how they can display ignorance of common sense and logic and still keep their jobs.

If I was to loudly proclaim that the term of a patent that issues tomorrow is 17 years from tomorrow - a completely wrong statement - I would be fired from my job for ignorance. The worst part would be that it would take me about 2 minutes to actually read the patent statute, much less any FAQ at, to learn just how wrong I was.

But Michael Kay can blather on about wins, and what a good measure of a pitcher they are, and also show a complete lack of understanding of run support, and how it affects wins. He can do this daily - despite it being an ignorant position, one easily correctable by spending five-ten minutes reading one of a hundred books or websites. And he keeps his job.

I don't expect folks like Kay to start talking about VORP, EqA, or other advanced metrics. But how about a little common sense and logic? Is that so much to ask for?

/end rant

2007-01-08 16:48:05
117.   Orly Yarly NoWai

Yes. Yes it is. Go take your common-sense demands elsewhere!

2007-01-08 17:00:24
118.   Schteeve
116 Anyone who doesn't read FireJoeMorgan regularly is missing out. Those dudes rake crappy sportscasters like Giambi rakes mediocre fastballs.
2007-01-08 17:40:52
119.   ChrisS
118 Indeed, they're on my daily read list - despite the fact that they're all a bunch of Sox fans, they are equal opportunity vigilantes. Heck, there were more than a few posts detailing how Jeter was a legitimate MVP candidate and not just a media darling.
2007-01-08 17:41:32
120.   ChrisS
and I'm totally on the Pavano bandwagon. He's going to be filthy this year. FILTHY.
2007-01-08 18:13:18
121.   Jim Dean
Bama - good to see those Southern gals out in full effect. You are one lucky man!

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