Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Eat and be Chubby
2006-11-23 07:18
by Alex Belth

Happy Holidays to everyone. Hope you and yours have a safe and satiating day of it. It's raining, windy and cold here in New York. Still no word from the Yanks regarding Mike Mussina's physical but that is likely just a formality. Hey, at least the Yankees aren't going knuts spending big bucks on the likes of Juan Pierre and Gary Matthews, Jr. Good grief. Meanwhile, here is the final word on the AL MVP award, from our pal Steve Goldman.

But finally, let me leave you with this before you dig in to the bird mit all der fixings, football, and all that other soporific stuff. For me--and undoubtedly for many of you too--one thing to continue being thankful for are two of the most amazing websites of all-time: retrosheet and Actually, they are in cohoots with each other these days, which is a beautiful thing. Here, check out the 2006 Yanks for example. You can click on Schedule, Transactions, Lineups, and Batting Orders. It's a Nerd's Delight, believe me. Talk about one-stop shopping. So to all the guys at B-Ref and Retrosheet, we owe you a great deal of thanks. Rock on. You've made the world a better place for seamheads near and far.

2006-11-23 08:26:48
1.   pistolpete
Happy Thanksgiving Cliff and Alex - I think it's safe to say we're all thankful for this site as well..

And now I get to eat STUFFING!!!! I wait all year for this!

2006-11-23 09:31:58
2.   unmoderated
Brief thanks:

Alex & Cliff
George Steinbrenner

2006-11-23 09:46:53
3.   jakewoods
thankful for
and beer

and hopefully the bucs betaing the cowboys

2006-11-23 10:02:40
4.   ukyankee
We don't celebrate Thanksgiving so much over here......probably because it would upset a few muslims....i digress....i'm very thankfull for this site and all the effort and hard work you both put into it. Without it I would feel as far removed from the baseball world as I actually am.
2006-11-23 10:30:52
5.   C2Coke
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
2006-11-23 10:35:42
6.   C2Coke
According to some Asian news outlet, rumor has it the Matsuzaka deal is going well, and that he wants to continue wearing his number 18 jersey.
2006-11-23 10:44:22
7.   ukyankee
Jeff Pasan (?) wrote on 'D-Mat' is getting 4yr $50m. I'd be happy if i was him too! Doesn't that make it 4yr $101.1m.......WOW!!!! nice job Theo
2006-11-23 14:10:38
8.   Mike T
I talked to my sister and my father just a little bit ago, and they said the weather in NY is indeed miserable. Here in Vegas it is quite nice out, and should top out around 70. Have a great day everyone.
2006-11-23 14:49:32
9.   OldYanksFan
A small MVP note:
In '61, Maris (batting 3rd) hit 61 HRs and was MVP with a .972 OPS.
In '61, Mantle (batting clean-up) was 2nd in MVP, with an 1.135 OPS!

Its hard to fathom someone with an 1.135 OPS back in '61.

(I heart Mickey)

2006-11-23 14:52:21
10.   OldYanksFan
A nice holiday story:
"Baseball tourney to raise money for Lidle Foundation"
2006-11-23 15:33:53
11.   pistolpete
3 "and hopefully the bucs betaing the cowboys"


2006-11-23 18:22:59
12.   Bama Yankee
3 & 11 Maybe the Bucs got a few more "bugs" worked out of their program while they were "beta-ing" the Cowboys today ;-)
2006-11-23 21:11:54
13.   Chyll Will
12 Good one >;)

Guess we know who the beta team was down in Big D, eh?

Now to sleep off this gourmet roast turkey, garlic mash, cornbread stuffing and Welch's 100% Grape Juice(TM) as opposed to a long walk, because here at my big bro's in the furthest reaches of Lun-Guylund (Hey, RI(s) I can see your houses from here!), the weather outside is indeed frightful. Good night, good people!

(And this time, we didn't forget the gway-vee...)

2006-11-23 21:51:50
14.   markp
In 1961, Mantle didn't lead the AL in OPS. Norm Cash did ( he also had 11 sb). Maris was 5th. Mantle obviously played the more important defensive position-especially in YS before it was remodeled.
The MVP voting has been a joke since it started. Albert Belle did something no one did before or since: 50 2B and 50 HR in the same season. He was, by far the most valuable player. But the press hated him, so Mo Vaughn (who'd been inexplicably left off a couple of all-star teams) won it.
2006-11-23 23:25:46
15.   David
If 34 HRs, 130 RBIs and 97 runs scored make Morneau deserve the MVP, then ARod with 35, 121, and 113 should have been right behind him. That's another way to see how arbitrary the MVP votes were.
2006-11-24 09:32:47
16.   rsmith51
It doesn't seem very arbitrary to me when ALL the voters decided that Morneau was one of the top 4 candidates. They all apparently have the same "bad" logic. Even somewhat intelligent guys like Stark and Olney selected Morneau as their MVP.

Guys I could have accepted being the MVP,

2006-11-24 11:10:48
17.   Simone
The Astros sign Lee to six-year, $100M deal:

He is a nice player for the Astros. They need his bat. Extra turkey for the Lee family!

2006-11-24 12:55:30
18.   Zack
Sure, Lee is a nice player, but at 16.7 million a year? Schnikies! Money this offseason has officially gone into ludicrous speed.
2006-11-24 17:58:10
19.   Shaun P
17 I think someone said this in one of the threads from earlier in the week - but right now, A-Rod looks like a steal given the Yanks are only playing him $16 mil.

When you adjust for league and park next year, does anyone think either Lee or Soriano will out-produce A-Rod? Me neither.

2006-11-25 07:57:11
20.   Jim Dean
Looks like the Sox are getting closer to signing Drew. The money shot from

"His nickname in the Dodger clubhouse, according to one big league coach, was "Nancy Drew," and according to one major leaguer who has played against Drew for much of his career, one Dodger player greeted the news of Drew's departure by phoning friends in jubilation."

Here's to looking forward to many chants of Nancy from the bleachers!

2006-11-25 13:58:21
21.   jakewoods

when you dont mistype a word on a blog you can talk there english major

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