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One Trick Pony?
2006-10-13 10:06
by Alex Belth
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Nice trick, Smiling Jack. But can The Gambler do it twice? Game 3 of the ALCS kicks off later this afternoon in a very chilly Motor City.

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2006-10-13 10:27:39
1.   Matt B
If the chicken roaster does it again, I really want to check his hat, pockets, glove and hands.
2006-10-13 10:30:28
2.   Sliced Bread
If Harden does his job the A's hitters will take care of Three Card Monte.

The Gambler folds in the 5th.

2006-10-13 10:38:35
3.   Sliced Bread
Take it from Sliced: this is going to be a Rogers & Hammertime musical.
2006-10-13 11:01:57
4.   bp1
I've got a negative vibe going. Zumaya is out with a sore wrist, and I got that same feeling that Rogers is gonna get lit up this afternoon, and we'll be left kicking the dirt wondering why now?

Gotta get out of this funk. Time to pop in videos of 2003 ALCS. Nothing like a little Posada bloop double to wash away the bad taste of Kenny Rogers domination.

2006-10-13 11:22:41
5.   Sliced Bread
Not sure if anybody linked to it this week, but "The Kid From Brooklyn" riffed on the fall of the Yanks:

The big mook loves to goof on the Yanks, but he cracks me up.

2006-10-13 11:58:36
6.   jonnystrongleg
Apropos of nothing (sorry, long post):

In the Joe Torre era, the yanks have scored an average of 5.51 runs per game in the regular season. in the postseason, they have scored an average of 4.39. they score 1.12 fewer runs per game. So because of facing better pitching staffs, not facing 5th starters, colder weather, pitchers hitting in NL WS games, and choking under pressure, no matter whether they win the World Series or get bounced early, they almost always significantly underperform.

In the same time, the yanks have allowed an average of 4.59 runs per game in the regular season. in the postseason, they have allowed an average of 3.92. they allow 0.68 fewer runs per game. In the years they went to the world series:
1996: -0.79
1998: -1.43
1999: -1.93
2000: -1.49
2001: -0.10
2003: -1.36

During the last 4 humiliations:
2002: +3.42
2004: +0.29
2005: +0.13
2006: +0.77

Due to colder weather, not using thier 5th starter, facing pitchers in NL WS games and opposition offenses choking under pressure, their pitching can be vastly superior to what they did all year.

For whatever mixture of reasons, the offense ALWAYS underperforms, regardless of their makeup. The pitching, may or may not underperform. If the pitching shows up, they go deep or win the series. If the pitching doesn't show up, they get bounced early. I have my theories, but I wonder what BB thinks...?

2006-10-13 12:07:39
7.   Sliced Bread
6 Good stuff. My theory is if your pitchers are dominating, or at least controlling the game, your hitters are more relaxed, patient, and likely to execute their gameplan. I think this is especially true in the playoffs when the pitching is generally top notch.
2006-10-13 12:10:19
8.   Sliced Bread
Conversely, if your pitchers are scrambling or getting shelled, your hitters are more likely to be tense, overanxious, and less likely to get the job done.
2006-10-13 12:11:53
9.   jonnystrongleg
7 But when the pitching is great, the hitting doesn't get any better. They just win more because it takes a lot less runs to win the games. Why can the pitching produce "over-performance" but the offense can't?

If the Yanks hitters get stymied because they are facing playoff pitchers, why do the pitchers actually improve while facing playoff lineups?

2006-10-13 12:15:21
10.   jonnystrongleg
8 Same thing. The offense is consistently a run below their norm (except for the short 2002 ALDS and 2004, with a 19 run game 3 to throw things off, where they were slightly above their regular season averages). Whether the Yankee pitching is good or bad has little to do with the offense, which is almost always depressed according to these numbers.
2006-10-13 12:18:31
11.   Sliced Bread
9 10 Oh, it's all A-Rod's fault.
2006-10-13 12:29:58
12.   Bama Yankee
6 Thanks for the research. I have always said that having five good starters will get you to the postseason, but you need at least two great starters to go deep in the postseason. I think that has been our problem the last few years.

Also, even though it is not very popular around here, I think you need to be able to play "small ball" in the postseason. If you are relying on your "great" lineup to get hits in crucial situations they will probably get shut down by good pitching. That's when you need a few guys who can bunt, hit behind the runners and drive in that guy from 3rd with less than 2 outs.

IMO, sometimes you can have "too" good of a lineup since no one would ask those "great" hitters to just move the runner over (like they would a .250 hitter). In the postseason, when runs are at a premium, you should do the little things to get that run in, especially when you are facing great pitching.

2006-10-13 12:30:22
13.   jonnystrongleg
11 Arod helped the Yankee pitchers when he was with Seattle in 2000 and hurts the Yanks offense 2004-06?

I guess I am just surprised that not once in 11 years has the Yanks offense, almost always the best or 2nd best offense in baseball, carried the team. They've never "gotten hot" on offense. They've always won by scoring less than they did all year and by preventing more. I get the scoring less, the opposition is better. I don't get the preventing more, the opposition is better.

2006-10-13 13:10:56
14.   rbj
It's windy as hell, too. Drove up to Toledo from Columbus this afternoon, had to use both hands the whole time.
2006-10-13 13:28:16
15.   Shaun P
13 Excellent research - it does raise interesting questions about the Yanks' offense.

What I wonder, though, is if looking at RS/RA is the best way to measure results. Small sample size (19 max postseason games vs 162 regular season games) jumps out at me, especially in the years the Yanks played 5 PS games or less ('97, '02, '05, '06). As do park factors - the RS/game numbers might go down because the Yanks played many games in parks that tend to suppress runs scored, like Yankee Stadium.

I am curious to see the triple slash stats (AVG/OBP/SLG) for the team in each postseason series. That might give a better indication of the offense being hot or not than runs scored/game. Just my two cents.

Thanks for coming up with a very interesting question!

2006-10-13 13:45:58
16.   jonnystrongleg
15 I think the sample size is problematic no matter the metric. But since we are all supremely concerned with these small samples, I think the actual results (the runs) are more important than the components of the results (obp & slg).

I'd be interested in knowing those numbers, but not enough to do it myself.

2006-10-13 14:04:36
17.   yankz
I saw TWO people wearing Pirates hats today. I didn't know Pittsburgh fans existed anymore.
2006-10-13 14:24:05
18.   Bama Yankee
Here's the ALDS numbers
2006 .246/.289/.388_____.309/.342/.540
2005 .253/.347/.392_____.275/.297/.461
2004 .279/.345/.461_____.283/.323/.408
2003 .275/.344/.384_____.198/.248/.282
2002 .281/.367/.467_____.376/.406/.624
2001 .241/.302/.355_____.247/.300/.402
2000 .244/.309/.333_____.263/.342/.353
1999 .235/.312/.378_____.152/.228/.207
1998 .253/.313/.451_____.141/.177/.174
1997 .259/.346/.410_____.257/.302/.377
1996 .264/.331/.379_____.218/.315/.373
2006-10-13 14:31:31
19.   Shaun P
18 Thanks, Bama!

Of course the two lines that really stand out above are the Angels in '02 and the Tigers this year.

I'm surprised that the Yanks' best division series OPS came in '02.

2006-10-13 14:33:23
20.   Bama Yankee
Now for the ALCS
2004 .282 .371 .469 _____ .277 .344 .439
2003 .227 .299 .378 _____ .272 .326 .468
2001 .264 .362 .440 _____ .211 .289 .345
2000 .279 .362 .417 _____ .215 .291 .356
1999 .239 .313 .409 _____ .293 .350 .467
1998 .218 .338 .330 _____ .220 .291 .376
1996 .273 .351 .497 _____ .222 .278 .398
2006-10-13 14:37:45
21.   Bama Yankee
And the Serious
2003 .261 .338 .406 _____ .232 .282 .300
2001 .183 .240 .288 _____ .264 .325 .394
2000 .263 .357 .408 _____ .229 .284 .343
1999 .270 .333 .416 _____ .200 .283 .277
1998 .309 .398 .475 _____ .239 .297 .373
1996 .216 .310 .286 _____ .254 .329 .368
2006-10-13 14:54:38
22.   randym77
12 Bama - I agree. Having too many all-star sluggers means we're less versatile. Paul O'Neill said that, too. And he wasn't just talking about small ball. Torre has all those egos to guard; it makes it hard for him to rearrange the lineup or bench guys who aren't hitting. (Look at the big brouhaha over batting A-Rod 8th.)

And even if you do ask one of your stars to just move the runner over...will he able to? It's not like Jason Giambi or Gary Sheffield has a lot of experience bunting. I can't help but remember that botched hit and run in Game 5 last year. Bernie completely missed the signal, and IIRC, it wasn't the first time that season. Bernie is not used to being asked to hit and run.

2006-10-13 14:59:36
23.   Marcus
21 Wow, I didn't remember how offensively inept the Marlins were in the 2003 series. How the heck did they win that series? On OPS of .582 vs the Yankees at .744???

But then again, how the heck did the Yankees take it to 7 games in 2001 (OPS of .528)?

Interesting to look back at these numbers, thanks for posting Bama.

2006-10-13 15:01:06
24.   rbj
OK, who is that pitcher and what did they do with Kenny Rogers.
2006-10-13 15:08:33
25.   Bama Yankee
22 I early in game two against Detroit (might have been 2nd or 3rd inning), when we had 1st and 2nd with no outs and Cano up. He battled and finally hit a hard shot to third but he did not advance the runners. I said then that if we had a .240 9th place hitter instead of .340 he would could have bunted the guys over and let Damon drive them in with a hit or even just score one with an out. But we ended up with nothing and lost by one run.

I love Cano and I thought he would slap one down in the corner and score both guys, but he did not come through. IMO, a weak hitter that can get the bunt down in that situation would be successful more often than letting the guy swing away who makes an out 65% of the time. I realize that we don't play the game that way, but maybe we should.

2006-10-13 15:10:31
26.   Bama Yankee
25 Should have started:
I remember early in game two...
2006-10-13 15:14:17
27.   Simone
24 Rogers' deal with the devil apparently lasts for the whole playoffs.
2006-10-13 15:21:10
28.   weeping for brunnhilde
12 22 It's nice to know I'm not alone, though often I feel as if I am. And not just alone, but as if I'm foolish for even suggesting such things.

There was also that situation--maybe in Game 2--when Jorgie came up late with a runner on first and I wished that he had been able to bunt, especially since you're supposed to play for a tie at home.

Instead, he made an unproductive out, though I can't recall how.

And you said it, Randy, even if such a guy were asked to play small ball, he'd not be able to.

This is my deepest concern--we have all these players that simply can't execute things that every major league baseball player, without exception, should be able to.

If you have the winning run on second base with nobody out, then I think it's insane to not bunt and then take two whacks at it, whoever's up.

Every player should be able to do what's needed according to the situation. And in certain situations players should learn how to choke up and make contact, as if their lives depended on it.

Here's a serious question: do the even teach guys to play pepper anymore?

Also, can someone tell me why they evidently don't teach every single major league baseball player how to bunt?

Seriously, why can't a guy like Melky bunt? It's really not that hard to do, it doesn't require some kind of magic touch.

Why don't they teach those things?

2006-10-13 15:31:40
29.   OldYanksFan
25 I agree with you 100%.... but many here would be screaming if Torre made a good batter bunt in that situation.

Even the numbers posted above tell you how random success is. In 2003, we had better numbers in ptching, offense and defense... yet the fish still won.

In 2001, Arizona had better numbers, and the loss was basically on Rivera's throw to 2nd. He makes that throw, and at worse they tie.... but we probably win.

I remember a recent game when Jetes hit a bouncy ball in the hole. The 1st basemen JUUUUUUST missed it, and the second baseman JUUUUUUST missed it.... and we're are all like:

The ARod CREAMS a line drive just over the pitchers head. I'm sure it's a single, but somehowit ends up in the CF's glove (and he didn't even come in much). The stitching was probably knocked loose, and yet we all say

ARod.... jeez

Baseball is SOOOOOOOOOOOO much a game of luck. Of course there is tremendous skill involved, and the best ultimately rise to the top (like over 162 games).... but any one game... one series... has so many factors that can turn the tide.

Look at Cano's shot to 3rd. 2 feet to the right, and we have a big inning... and may still be playing.

And as poor Cory has showed us, fate is terribly, terribly random.

2006-10-13 15:34:59
30.   weeping for brunnhilde
29 Well said.
2006-10-13 15:41:46
31.   RIYank
28 29 Hmm, I think you're wrong about this, but it's a close call.
Your chance of scoring with a man on second and nobody out is almost the same as your chance of scoring with a man on third and one out. But when you bunt, you sometimes pop out, foul out, or otherwise fail to advance the runner; of course, there's sometimes a perfect base hit bunt or an error, but I believe those are less common than 'failed' bunts.
2006-10-13 15:42:22
32.   RIYank
Of course, the rest of 29 I wholeheartedly agree with.
2006-10-13 15:50:08
33.   mehmattski
This just in from Detroit:

Up 3-0 in the 7th, Tiggers fans chant:

Yankees suck!

Stay classy, rest of country.

29 I've been convinced... bunting = bad, unless you're planning on having a reduced chance of scoring one run. Teams with a runners on first and second and no outs score, on average, 1.62 runs per inning. Teams with runners on second and third and one out score 1.17 runs per inning. And of course there's che chance that the bunt fails: runners on first and second, one out: 1.02 runs/inning. I think that's pretty clear...

2006-10-13 15:51:09
34.   mehmattski
And the Detroit Tigers promptly prove my point.
2006-10-13 15:54:41
35.   RIYank
Yeah, those two at-bats were a good lesson in "Why We Don't Bunt".
The thing is, mehmattski, they (Weeping and OYF) were talking about getting one run. In that case, I think it's a very close call if you have a man on second and nobody out. I think it depends on how good your next three hitters are and how good a bunter the man at the plate is.
2006-10-13 15:58:18
36.   randym77
They wuz robbed. He was safe.
2006-10-13 16:01:29
37.   mehmattski
35 I agree that there are situations for it, but I disagree that Posada's at bat was that time. One point I am coming around to agreeing with Weeping on: we need hitters who can make adjustments at the plate and not always be in a "walk's as good as a hit" mentality. Because bunting a guy to third with one out means nothing if Giambi and A-Rod are just going to walk/strike out 60% of the time. Ability to get on base is great across a full season, but with so much luck involved in winning postseason games, adjustements are crucial.

What the Tigers just did, plaing for one run while up three runs at home... was unbelievably stupid, however. It's too bad the A's bats have been frozen by the undead Kenny Rogers.

2006-10-13 16:02:28
38.   randym77
Holy crap, can you believe this?

NEW YORK CBS 2 has learned that a private plane carrying seven passengers, including New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez, has skidded off a runway in Burbank, Calif.

Media reports in Southern California have confirmed Rodriguez was on the plane.

It is believed no one was injured.

2006-10-13 16:05:54
39.   Simone
Yankee players need to stay away from private planes.
2006-10-13 16:10:57
40.   Simone
I have never disliked Kenny Rogers, but he is really annoying. He'll be even more obnoxious after the Tigers win the World Series.
2006-10-13 16:16:22
41.   randym77
40 As long as we don't sign him for $50 million...
2006-10-13 16:17:32
42.   RIYank
I don't get one thing, mehmattski: why is luck more involved in playoff games than in regular season games?
2006-10-13 16:34:17
43.   randym77
43 Presumably because it's shorter. Small sample size, and all that.

Though I wonder. IIRC, you can expect to return to mean eventually, but it can take a lot longer than most people realize. This is one of the reasons casinos stay in business...

2006-10-13 16:34:21
44.   Simone
You know that you are in Bizarro World when Kenny Rogers holds a 2 run lead and Mike Mussina does not. I want back to reality right now.
2006-10-13 16:42:47
45.   dianagramr

More on A-Rod's plane adventure

2006-10-13 16:44:23
46.   RIYank
43 (No self reference allowed)
But that couldn't possibly make it more important in one game. All you can do, in one game, with tactics/strategy, is increase your chances.
2006-10-13 16:44:36
47.   bobtaco
45 I think we have all been in Bizarro World since the year 2000.
2006-10-13 16:50:41
48.   randym77
45 They just covered it on Fox. Holy Heisenberg. There's a huge, long chunk gouged out of the tarmac.
2006-10-13 17:17:03
49.   Simone
The Mets and the Tigers are like the unholy forces heading to a confrontation in the World Series. Not one of the aces on the Yankees, As, and Cardinals other than Wang can stand up to these offenses. Sad, really.
2006-10-13 17:25:17
50.   Simone
Wright was out like a crazy. The umpire was righ there! He must be blind.
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2006-10-13 17:33:19
51.   BatgirlReneeNYC
50 Simone, I couldn't agree more on both accounts. I feel like I'm in some sort of alternate universe right now.. hard to believe I just watched the Tigers win and now the Mets have taken an early lead. I think the earth must be have stopped spinning or something...I can't figure out how else to explain the madness.

And Wright was soo out at second. Grrrr...
I'm brand new to this site. I have been reading and enjoying for awhile now and I just registered a few minutes ago so I could join in on the discussions. waves hello to all my fellow Yankee friends

2006-10-13 17:37:25
52.   OldYanksFan
52 The ball beat Wright, but Eckstein MISSED the tag. He was safe... and his good baserunning remainds me of a number of poor baserunning plays by the Yanks in the same situation.
2006-10-13 17:37:55
53.   randym77
Welcome, Renee!

Hmm. The Mets could be in trouble here. If they get out of this one unscathed, we'll know they made a pact with the devil...

2006-10-13 17:38:24
54.   pistolpete
Jeez, finally the Mets being tested a little here.
2006-10-13 17:48:07
55.   RIYank
Now there's a bunt I can endorse. (Maine's bunt.)
Welcome, Renee.
2006-10-13 17:53:59
56.   BatgirlReneeNYC
randym77 & RIYank- I thank you kindly for the greetings. Glad to be a part of the family. I figured it's about time I find some people that share my love of baseball, god knows my friends and family are sick of hearing me rattle on and on about things they have no interest in. haha
2006-10-13 17:55:09
57.   randym77
52 My vote for worst baserunning of the season: that time Andy Phillips had the throw to 2B beat by a mile, but missed the base sliding in. He was a couple of feet wide of the mark.

Whatever he was on the postseason roster for, it wasn't for his pinchrunning skills. ;-)

2006-10-13 17:57:19
58.   randym77
56 Heh. I know that feeling. I hail from a strictly football family. They don't know what they did wrong, that a child of theirs has gone over to the dark side...
2006-10-13 18:03:20
59.   RIYank
John Maine isn't really that good.
2006-10-13 18:09:44
60.   Simone
51 Welcome Renee! Always good to have another woman around here.

Finally, the Cardinals strike back.

2006-10-13 18:29:27
61.   randym77
Yeek. Terrible throw by Lo Duca. He looked like Wil Nieves there.
2006-10-13 18:34:08
62.   pistolpete
And yet the Cards still don't pull ahead. They seem destined to lose this one.
2006-10-13 18:39:50
63.   Bama Yankee
51 Welcome to the family Renee. Greetings from the great state of Alabama.

BTW, to reference a post just put the number in brackets... [#]

2006-10-13 18:47:40
64.   RIYank
Pujols 0 for 5 in the series.
Not clutch at all.
2006-10-13 18:58:54
65.   pistolpete
62 What did I say....
2006-10-13 19:13:51
66.   BatgirlReneeNYC
63 Thanks for the tip! I'm guessing it's a bit warmer over there in Alabama than here in NYC...although I guess it could be least it's not as cold as it is in Detroit right now..although I'm sure that cold air is heading our way soon. And if I have to hear my friend say "LET'S GO DEEEEEETROIT" one more time I think I might just lose my mind! She's from Michigan but just moved here to New York less than a year ago and she's not really a baseball fan,she proved that the other night when she said and I quote "I have to go, Grey's Anatomy just came on", to which I replied, "Oh, I'm watching the NLCS"..and she said "What is that???" and she wasn't kidding. Need I say more? She's just cheering for Detroit and the Mets to drive me crazy. The problem is that one minute she's saying "Let's go Deeetroit" and the next minute it's "Let's Go Mets!". I told her she can't have it both ways, she has to pick one and stick with it. She's what you call a 'bandwagon' fan I suppose and she enjoys getting under my skin. hehe
2006-10-13 19:21:18
67.   Bama Yankee
66 Yeah, the weather is not that bad down here right now. Your friend not knowing what the NLCS was reminds me of a true story that I have posted before:

My brother-in-law (not a big baseball fan, as you will see) saw me wearing my 2000 Subway Series t-shirt the other day and he asked seriously, "What's the train for?" I replied (thinking he was joking), "Hellooo, you think it might be for the subway?". His reply was a classic (he was dead serious) "I thought it might have been sponsored by the sandwich joint Subway, you know like the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl". Football is definitely king down here in Alabama...

2006-10-13 19:27:17
68.   RIYank
Too bad it's impossible to be successful in the post-season without top pitching. Otherwise the Mets would be doing really well.
2006-10-13 19:27:52
69.   BatgirlReneeNYC
67 OMG. That story is hilarous!! Wow....I'm cracking up. Thank you for that, I really needed to smile, especially now that the Mets have taken a 2 run lead...
2006-10-13 19:36:24
70.   Simone
68 The Mets play in the NL. Anything is possible there as mediocre pitching rules the day. Watch the Tigers' superior starting pitchers run through the Mets in the World Series.
2006-10-13 19:40:14
71.   JL25and3
I really hate Kenny Rogers.

But if it's any consolation, I don't think we hate him as much as Mets fans do.

2006-10-13 19:42:43
72.   JL25and3
I clearly don't pay enough attention to NL baseball. Otherwise it wouldn't have taken me all these years to come up with this obvious (if obscure) musical nickname: Scott Rolen, "The Headless Thompson Gunner."
2006-10-13 19:48:38
73.   randym77
Pujols is so clutch. ;-)
2006-10-13 19:59:08
74.   mehmattski
46 I think randym77 said it pretty well- in a long season there is a large sample and it is inevitable that "things even out." It is this reasoning that many stat-friendly baseball fans don't believe in "clutch": if a .300 hitter is hitting .250 in 100 "clutch" at bats, the laws of statistics say that there isn't much confidence behind this number. If we were to choose 100 random at bats over the career of a .300 hitter, it's just as likely that sample will show .350 as .250.

Anyway, you maximize your chances of winning many games by doing that which gets you the most runs on a consistent basis. And gobs of statistical research show that getting on base (and not making outs) is what matters the most for a hitter. The 2006 Yankees are an excellent example of this: all season, people were grumbling about how the Yanks "didn't do the little things," and "A-Rod sux" but the team ended up winning 97 games, and A-Rod probably provided 8 of those above a "replacement player."

But as for one game, the sample is so small that a given player is going to get a hit at a certain time. In general, you win baseball games by getting on base more than the other team. To me, playing "small ball" and giving up outs for uncertain runs is a lot like playing roulette: every so often you're going to hit big, and you'll remember that, but you won't remember all the times you lost. But over time, you are going to lose money playing roulette.

That was probably the worst way to explain the statistics, so I apologize.

2006-10-13 19:59:39
75.   weeping for brunnhilde
Why didn't Mota try to elevate there?

I was sure that after those changeups he'd go high heat but instead he went down and in.

Anyone have any idea why?

2006-10-13 20:01:58
76.   mehmattski
72 My college roommate and I always preferred, simply: Skid-Row. Why? I don't know... Scott Rolen = Scot-Ro = Skid Row?

Alcohol was involved, I'm sure.

2006-10-13 20:42:25
77.   randym77
Holy crap. The LIDR hits 9th inning go-ahead homer.
2006-10-13 20:49:38
78.   mehmattski
That's because you didn't know how Taguchi he was. So Taguchi! (Sorry, the joke is so bad I had to post it at multiple sites).

Also, Scott Spezio scoffs at my idea that there's no such thing as "clutch":

14 for 20 in the postseason with runners in scoring position, including 2 for 2 with 3 RBI in this game. That, my friends, is pretty impressive.

2006-10-13 20:55:55
79.   BklynBmr
Just rolled in — wow! Nice job by the Mutts' closer. This will still probably go into extra innings, but that's a tough gig, ain't it?

Here's to Mariano "First Ballot HOF" Rivera.

Thinking about ya, Mo. Hope all is well ;-)

2006-10-13 21:03:22
80.   mehmattski
It appears Scott Rolen can still field, despite the injury...
2006-10-13 21:04:03
81.   pistolpete
OVAH. Mutts lose!
2006-10-13 21:06:00
82.   weeping for brunnhilde
78 No kidding. The guy killed us in 2002 as well.
2006-10-13 21:08:35
83.   weeping for brunnhilde
That loss, btw, is entirely on Willie, poor man.

There was no excuse to leave Mota in in that spot.

In my opinion, if your pitcher puts the tying run on first base on four pitches, you get his ass out of there posthaste.

What do they keep Heliman around for, anyway?

2006-10-13 21:09:48
84.   BklynBmr
Buck: "Hey, ho. Let's go... to St. Louis. And now to Jeanne Valasco..."

What a pig. ;-)

2006-10-13 21:13:10
85.   weeping for brunnhilde
79 I know. He's allowed what, the one homer to Alomar in ten years of postseason play?
2006-10-13 21:34:11
86.   BklynBmr
BBTN: Sweet Lou bails from consideration of the SF Giants job... Rumors have him close to the Nats gig, but ya gotta think he'll wait a year and ease into The Bronx in '08... unless the Yanks get off to a horrible start in '07 ;-)
2006-10-13 21:55:20
87.   joejoejoe
Dodger Thoughts reports that LA has dropped RHRP Giovanni Carrara from their 40-man roster. Brian Cashman should pick him up for bullpen insurance. Cheap is good.

Last 3 yrs
Giovanni Carrara, age 38, minor league contract
vs. left, 239AB .201/.299/.318
vs. right, 339AB .265/.327/.422

Mike Myers, age 37, $1.2M/yr
vs. left, 268AB .213/.272/.321
vs. right, 149AB .315/.425/.497

Carrara is perfect to help Torre-proof the bullpen. He's a good garbage time guy with the potential to form a battery with Sal Fasano that will be as popular in Bay Ridge as Matsui is in Tokyo. And he doesn't throw batting practice to righties in mop up time like Myers.

2006-10-14 04:32:39
88.   RIYank
74 Mehmattski, I don't think that can be right.

Certainly in a long season we're confident that you'll score more by getting more runners on base and preserving your outs. And in a short series, luck will rule the day.

But, all you can do with your strategies, post-season or regular, is increase your chances of winning. And the very same strategy that will win you more games in the long run will also increase your chances in the one game or the short series.

So it can't be that the best strategy changes in October. At least, not for that reason.

(Imagine if someone said: Well, if we're going to be betting on dice all afternoon, I'll bet on seven every time; but if we're only going to roll five times, I'll bet on eight.)

2006-10-14 06:30:30
89.   Bob Timmermann
But Giovanni Carrara is more Venezuelan than he is Italian. He never identifies himself as Italian or an Italian-Venzuelan. Although a lot of Venezuelans are of Italian descent.
2006-10-14 06:47:43
90.   joejoejoe
89 It won't matter if he's Martian, fans will still think he's Italian.

You're out west, right? Have you seen Carrara pitch? He seems to have good stats but I can't remember seeing him pitch. He doesn't seem like a bad 11th or 12th pitcher in the bullpen for the price. On ongoing theme here in the comments at Bronx Banter is how to Torre-proof the bullpen. I just thought a cheap veteran like Carrara would be just the kind of reliever to eat innings. His stats vs. lefties are very good - I'm wouldn't be suprised if he gets used as a LOOGY by somebody in '07.

2006-10-14 13:06:11
91.   3rd gen yankee fan
84 Ya know, if Fox & EPSN can't find announcers who aren't going to homer for their old teams, then I don't want to hear them complain that ratings are low in the postseason "cause fans don't want to watch unless their teams are in." BS. I want unbiased, knowledgeable, accurate, timely (!!! no dissing the games for commercials!!!) postseason broadcasting.

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