Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Surf's Up, Yankee Fans
2006-09-22 05:10
by Alex Belth
Note: The Bronx Banter blog has moved to

The Boss speaks (says he feels fine and that the Yanks will go "all the way"); Jason Giambi might need surgery on his left wrist this off-season (he's playing with a torn ligament); Tyler Kepner profiles Brian Bruney; Will Weiss looks at the Yankees division-clinching games since 1996; Christian Red writes about Ray Negron's new book; the Yankees are moving their AAA operations to Sranton, P.A.; over at the Replacement Level Yankees Blog, SG takes a look at the Good, Bad and the Ugly of the 2006 season; and last but not least, Bronx Banter reader Pistol Pete has arranged some clips of the Yankee's post-game celebration the other night over at You Tube. Good looking, bro.

I'm looking forward to see Gary Sheffield play first base this weekend down in Tampa. Nothing like a little hometown cooking to get him going again.

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2006-09-22 05:34:14
1.   NetShrine
AB - FYI, the link on the Brian Bruney mention points to YES, not the NYT.
2006-09-22 05:39:26
2.   Alex Belth
Yikes. I'll fix that. Thanks, man.
2006-09-22 05:52:30
3.   rbj
Wow, sounds like the Mets were left standing when the musical chairs music stopped.
2006-09-22 05:57:19
4.   pistolpete
Glad I could help out with the videos - I guess those of us in the tri-state take it for granted that we're able to see everything on YES while our brethren in other parts of the country get cut off immediately after the game.

Enjoy, all - I'll try to get these better organized in the future- I'm new to uploading anything on YouTube...

I'll do it for future celebrations as well if everyone wants...

2006-09-22 06:00:08
5.   pistolpete
BTW, here's a better link if you want the vids in order or want to bypass all that confusing stuff on my YouTube channel page:

2006-09-22 06:10:48
6.   Sliced Bread
Right on, re: Sheff, Alex. Can't wait. And Tino's joining Sterling tonight as Suzyn observes Rosh Hoshanna. I know some here don't appreciate the broadcasting Tino, but he can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned.

Great stuff from SG. I especially like that he gives props to Pena, and Bowa.

But I don't agree that the Yanks thrilling 14-13 win over Texas on May 16 was the game of the season.

The game of the season was Aug. 20, which SG beautifully breaks down as "the game that broke Boston's back." Definitely read his recap of that game. Giambi hasn't hit a home run since. Damn.

SG nails most of my favorite moments of 2006 including Melky's catch (June 6?) robbing Manny.

But SG missed my absolute favorite moment of 2006: May 24 - Fenway, 8th inning: Ortiz steps to the plate with the bases loaded.

Yanks up 8-6

Lord Kyle Farnswacker appears to be melting down with two outs. He has just walked Loretta, setting up Ortiz.

Power against power.

Farnstantinople freezes Papi, strikes him out looking at an 86 mph slider. Ortiz also went down swinging against Unit in the first, watched a Unit fastball blow by him in the 4th inning, whiffed on an outside pitch from Myers in the 7th, and got frozen by Farnwacker in the 8th.

I will admire Farnstantinople forever for that.

Turning point of the season (in my opinion) which SG did not write up:

Aug. 1 Abreu's Yankees debut. 4th inning. Abreu falls behind 0-2. Checks his swing several times, and works a 9 pitch walk.
Sets up Bernie's 3 run double. Yanks beat Blue Jays 5-1, but more importantly, Yanks 6th win in 7 games moves them into the AL East lead for the first time since June 18.

2006-09-22 06:11:38
7.   Sliced Bread
5 Pistol, I thanked you at the end of the previous thread, but again, great job!
2006-09-22 06:16:30
8.   Sliced Bread
I'm digging the Scranton move because I pass through there many times a year on the way to my in-laws in Siberiacuse, NY.

Will definitely be stopping by Scranton next spring-summer for some Yanks Triple A ball -- even if Phillip Hughes will be in da Bronx by Father's Day!

2006-09-22 06:56:45
9.   unmoderated
I look forward to a few Scranton road trips as well... they should have a BB night with Alex and Cliff bobbleheads. T-Long can throw out the first pitch.

...although that strange metal scaffolding around the airport you pass on I-81 creeps me out.

2006-09-22 06:59:26
10.   Chyll Will
SG --> Space Ghost?

Thanks a bunch, Pete, especially from those in the tri-state who don't have Cabledrivel or Crime Warner. Looking forward to it.

This all is starting to feel like 1996, with the mix of hardened, winning vets and giddy, ambitious youth led by a quiet, yet profound field general and his misfit assistants, complete with media derision from all sides. Next thing I know I'll be hanging halfway out a friend's window from five floors up screaming my head off. Good times...

2006-09-22 07:04:17
11.   wsporter
8 Slice, See you in S/WB.

Do you really think Hugheser the Abuser will be in the Bronx by Father's Day? Jesus I hope it works if he is. I'm hopping they let him get up to 7 - 9 innings slowly and a normal MLB workload for a middle of the rotation starter before they bring him up; if not next year then early '08. I had July/August in mind if he came up next year at all.

If he's up early next year I hope they don't let him fall into the Papelbon shoulder/arm problem syndrome. So many folks talk about the evils of babying pitching prospects but I think we've all seen the down side of rushing sub 22 year old youngsters whose bodies have not fully formed to the bigs. I keep asking what is the rush?

2006-09-22 07:06:59
12.   RIYank
Muchas gracias, Pistol Pete. Highly appreciated by all of us outlying Banterers.
2006-09-22 07:09:51
13.   Bama Yankee
10 Is the Space Ghost Reptilian? ;-)
2006-09-22 07:16:02
14.   Chyll Will
13 Banjo!!!
2006-09-22 07:42:26
15.   Peter
Thanks, Pistolpete, for posting those. It was fun to watch the celebration again.

I found a YouTube clip of Wang at the celebration from what I'm guessing is Taiwanese tv. It's only 8 seconds long but I find it pretty funny.

2006-09-22 07:48:28
16.   Bama Yankee
6 Good recap on the Farnstantinople vs. Papi moment...

Also, I'm with you on Tino in the booth. I would like to see them bring in some other people besides Waldman to call the games on occasion. Maybe they could just give Waldman Saturdays off (since those are the games that I am forced to MLB.noTV's radio broadcast during the FOX blackout).

Does anyone know how Waldman got that job in the first place and how long until her contract is up?

2006-09-22 07:50:45
17.   Zack
The great thing about that youtube clip of the Wanger is how totally goofy Damon is. Exactlly like the guy you lived next to in college, which is exactlly how I would expect him to be. Downing the labatts, and screaming random words in total joy...
2006-09-22 07:58:28
18.   JL25and3
17 Definitely. I can see him in a huge penthouse on 5th Avenue, with a case of Old Milwaukee (and nothing else) in the fridge.
2006-09-22 08:01:12
19.   Shaun P
16 Bama, that BP article you found was the one I was talking about yesterday re: superstar trades - thanks!

Here is my favorite blurb from it, two trades all Yankee fans probably remember well:

"7. Athletics deal Rickey Henderson (26) with Bert Bradley to Yankees for Stan Javier, Jay Howell, Jose Rijo, Eric Plunk, and Tim Birtsas, December 5, 1984.

This deal illustrates fairly vividly the problem with dealing a superstar. You have Rickey Henderson, one of the very best players in baseball, already staking his claim as the greatest leadoff hitter in history. But your team isn't very good (75-87), so you figure: why not use Rickey to fill a bunch of holes on the team and pick up several promising players? The problem here is that you are left hoping that one or two of these players become regulars, or maybe one becomes a star, when you already had a star, a superstar in fact. And you just traded him away for some shiny gold rocks.

8. Yankees deal Rickey Henderson (30) to Athletics for Greg Cadaret, Eric Plunk, and Luis Polonia, June 21, 1989.

Four-and-a-half years later, Rickey is still a great player, so you get him back. Once again, there is no realistic hope that these players are going to add up to Rickey Henderson-in fact, it's a much less hopeful group than the 1985 lot. Nice reversal, but you missed out on some pretty good seasons, and Rickey might have helped out in 1987."

2006-09-22 08:35:09
20.   Bama Yankee
19 Shaun P, thanks for the excerpt from that BP article. I knew it would probably have something in there about those Rickey trades. I guess they also mention these:
1)Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas
2)Ozzie Smith for Gary Templeton
3)Tom Seaver for Pat Zachry, Doug Flynn, Steve Henderson, and Dan Norman.

I guess the moral is: Your HOFer in the hand is better than two in the bush (leagues).

2006-09-22 08:53:39
21.   wsporter
20 Bama, I'd have to say that the Ozzie for Templeton trade may be the exception to the rule. At the time of the trade Templeton was viewed as the real 'star' while Ozzie was seen as a defensive specialist that couldn't hit Twiggy's weight.

Boy did everybody have that one upside down.

2006-09-22 09:00:32
22.   David
Who gets home field advantage if the Twins win the Central Division and end the regular season tied with the Yanks?

The Yanks were 3-3 against the Twins this year; they went 5-2 against the Tigers. I assume the head-to-head record is the first tie-breaker, so the Yanks have the edge on the Tigers. But, what happens if two tied teams also have tied head-to-head records?

2006-09-22 09:06:28
23.   BklynBmr
4 pistolpete for president!

Thanks again, great work. Three more to go! ;-)

2006-09-22 09:13:17
24.   Peter
22 I believe the Yanks get home field. I think Bob Timmermann wrote yesterday that in that situation, the team with the best record against their own division wins.
2006-09-22 09:13:49
25.   Shaun P
23 4 I'd like to add my own "Here here!" to pistol pete. First you designed those Worm Burner signs, now this. Bravo!

20 Bama, they didn't include the Ozzie for Gary swap - probably for the reasons MFD wsporter mentions in 21. They did mention the Gary Carter to the Mets deal, and Reggie Jackson and Ken Holtzman for Don Baylor and Mike Torrez. I always forget Reggie played for the Boids one year, same as I always forget Kevin Brown did too.

2006-09-22 09:15:42
26.   David
24 Thanks, Peter
2006-09-22 09:16:09
27.   mehmattski
22 The wild card is always the fourth seed in the playoffs, so the Yanks would get HFA if the Yanks and the Twins had the same record.

But if the Twins were the Central champs and the Yanks and Twins both won their division series, according to this website (, the tiebreaker after head to head is "intradivision games." The Yankees have a record of 41-23 versus the East; Minnesota has a 37-32 record versus the Central. The Yanks have 10 games left against East opponents and so can do no worse than 41-33; the Twins can do no better than 44-32.

2006-09-22 09:17:39
28.   Bama Yankee
21 Good point wsporter. I had been trying to think of an exeption to the rule. I guess I stumbled onto the exception by trying to prove the rule (even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then).

BTW, Templeton's middle finger salute to a fan in 1981 had a lot to do with that trade.

I still like the following quote from Whitey Herzog:
"He (Garry Templeton) doesn't want to play in St. Louis. He doesn't want to play on turf. He doesn't want to play when we go into Montreal. He doesn't want to play in the Astrodome. He doesn't want to play in the rain. The other eighty games he's all right."

2006-09-22 09:29:16
29.   wsporter
28 Yeah I remember that. The White Rat had a way with the language didn't he?
2006-09-22 09:43:36
30.   Bama Yankee
29 Yes he did. Here are a few more gems from Dorrel Norman Elvert Herzog:
"Baseball has been good to me since I quit trying to play it."
"We need just two players to be a contender. Just Babe Ruth and Sandy Koufax."
"We need three kinds of pitching: left handed, right handed, and relief."
2006-09-22 09:46:06
31.   Sliced Bread
Man, no computer at work for several hours drove me nuts. At least I was able to sneak to the barber.

11 Nah, I don't think Hughes will be up that soon. Just talkin' smack. I agree they should take the Ernst and Julio Gallo Bros. approach with him: "Sell no wine before it's time" and all that.

2006-09-22 09:53:46
32.   Bama Yankee
31 Good analogy on the wine slogan there Orson "Sliced Bread" Welles. But wasn't that Paul Masson...
2006-09-22 09:55:08
33.   wsporter
30 Bama thats great stuff, what a great name, I had truly forgotten that. I was thinking about that quote from 28. Templeton was really the Anti-Jeter wasn't he? Can you immagine anyone describing the Captain that way? It just couldn't happen.

31 Slice, thanks for that. My world seemed to go spinning off it's greased grooves when I read those words in 8. I feel better now.

2006-09-22 09:56:45
34.   Sliced Bread
32 You are correct, sir.
2006-09-22 10:08:02
35.   Sliced Bread
Alex, just read the piece on Negron. I was going to wait until Christmas to get his book for my sons, but I might have to jump on that sooner.

Looking forward to the Negron piece you're working on.

2006-09-22 10:12:40
36.   Sliced Bread
Hey, is Cliff getting married tomorrow?

If so, is this the Bronx Banter Bachelor Party?

Good luck, and best wishes, Cliff!

2006-09-22 10:19:22
37.   wsporter
25 That year that Brown spent in Balto should have told us everything we needed to know about him in the AL before we made that deal. God was he awful. I know Weaver had to go but Oye Ve!
2006-09-22 10:20:13
38.   wsporter
37 Sorry that should have read MFD ...
2006-09-22 11:00:44
39.   mhmitch
28 Great Herzog quote on Templeton. I think it might have been Templeton who came up with the infamous line regarding his potential attendance at the All-Star Game: "If I aint startin' I aint departin'."
2006-09-22 11:26:02
40.   Shaun P
38 Not a problem at all, MFD! Speaking of old Union, are you planning to be there for homecoming this year?
2006-09-22 11:50:17
41.   wsporter
40 MFD, Are you going up? I was just there this August for a short trip. The old place really looks great.

I did my 25th a couple of years ago with my best friend from those days who remains my best friend (A dyed in the wool SAWX fan btw). So I don't think I'll make it up this spring. Spring is the really busy time in my business and it's hard to get away; I have to pick my spots. I have to be truthful about it as well; I found it a little depressing. I found that many of the people I liked either didn't go or had become the kind of people I can't stand hanging with.

In some ways though, it was a blast. Spending a gorgeous spring afternoon walking about a beautiful campus, checking out the co-eds and visiting old professors who can't quite place you all the while sipping from a fifth of Jameson that's been iced in a 24 ounce go cup holds a certain magnetic charm that is not to be missed. I do recommend it.

2006-09-22 12:02:04
42.   Shaun P
41 MFD, except for my best friend's wedding at Memorial Chapel last November, neither the wife (also a Union alum) or I have been back in years. A long story, which perhaps we'll get to share in person some time, over a fifth of Jameson in a 24 ounce cup.

A good friend of ours - another U alum - just moved out there, so we were thinking of going for Homecoming. Fall on campus was always my favorite time of year. Just something in the air, I guess. I dislike some of what's happened to the old place, but its still part-home-sweet-home.

It would also be nice to be able to walk around in a Yankees cap and not get jeered, as often happens in MA.

2006-09-22 12:15:32
43.   C2Coke
Thank you, pistolpete! You Rock!
2006-09-22 12:20:14
44.   wsporter
42 MFD I agree the campus is beautiful in the fall. For some reason I thought you meant Reunion not Homecoming. No I can't do it. You should definitely go and see your friend if you can. As my 30th reunion rolls around I realize even more keenly than ever that those opportunities to visit friends shouldn't be missed. Have a blast dude.

Shef tonight? I think so. You?

2006-09-22 12:26:35
45.   C2Coke
36 I believe so.

Cliff, Best of Wishes! And have a wonderful wedding day tomorrow.

We, the Banterers, will miss you and your always informative write-ups in the next week or so while you enjoy your honeymoon.

2006-09-22 12:28:00
46.   Shaun P
44 MFD, thanks for the advice. I think we are going to do it, and presuming we do, I'll let you know how it goes when we get back.

As for Sheff, I think he plays tonight too. I hope he pulls a Matsui in his return. If Giambi is even slightly off, the Yanks need Sheff's big bat.

2006-09-22 12:32:50
47.   Bama Yankee
I would like to echo everyone'e kind words about pistolpete. I finally got a chance to watch all that celebration footage.

Thanks again pete for spending the time and effort it took to provide that video to those of us outside of the YES viewing area.

Pete and all the other great posters here along with the great stuff from Cliff and Alex (not to mention Ken making it all possible) make the Bronx Banter the best place on the net for Yankee fans.

2006-09-22 12:47:29
48.   C2Coke
46 " I hope he pulls a Matsui in his return." Don't we all?

47 Hear hear!!

2006-09-22 12:51:43
49.   Bama Yankee
39 You are correct mhmitch, that was Templeton.
2006-09-22 12:53:50
50.   pistolpete
47 Thank you all for the appreciation - it definitely made the effort it took to post the videos all worthwhile.

I'll be sure to do it for as far as we go into the playoffs.

The World Series videos might take a bit longer than all the others, however. :-) My favorite post-Series clip has always been from 1996, when they had interviewed all the players, coaches, etc., and they finally got to John Sterling, who looked unusually disheveled & tired after all the revelry that night. I stayed up for ALL of it - it was such a great night to be a Yankees fan.

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2006-09-22 12:56:49
51.   Bama Yankee
48 Carl Pavano "pulled a Matsui" once and it landed him on the 15-day DL...
2006-09-22 13:02:40
52.   BklynBmr
45 Any truth to the rumor that Cliff will honeymoon in Tampa until Tuesday, then spend the rest of the week in the beautiful Bronx? ;-)
2006-09-22 13:04:53
53.   wsporter
50 Pistol I'd like to echo the thanks as well.

'96 was a wonderful time. After all those years of waiting and then after those first two games when it looked like we were soooo dead; just beautiful. Man I hope we all get to feel that way again this year. The masacre was just a small taste I hope. Wouldn't it be cool to see Donnie BB get a ring?

2006-09-22 13:06:37
54.   pistolpete
53 Donnie getting a ring would definitely bring my Yankees 'fanhood' full circle. I just got chills thinking about it.
2006-09-22 13:16:27
55.   Chyll Will
53 Getting teary just thinking about that.

50 Thanks again pistolpete, you're definitely cool.

2006-09-22 13:18:59
56.   wsporter
50 Bama, Pavano is so played but that is so funny. Line of the week for my money.
2006-09-22 13:19:37
57.   Yankee Fan In Boston
great off-day post. plenty of great links. thanks, alex.

I know that it has been said a few times already, but many MANY thanks to pistolpete. as you might imagine, the coverage here in boston was minimal at best.

one "sportscaster" (he's terrible) here showed highlights of the sox loss, briefly stated that the loss secured the division title for the yankees and followed that with:

"we won't be showing a single frame of yankee celebrations... why would we?"

i was livid. i'm sure it wasn't that way in NY in 2004.


thank you. much obliged.

2006-09-22 13:20:05
58.   wsporter
56 Uhm that's 51 sorry.
2006-09-22 13:25:36
59.   Bama Yankee
53 That '96 comeback was extra sweet for me. Down here in the middle of Braves-bandwagon-country, I was hearing some serious smack from a 5th & 6th grade basketball team that I was coaching.

After we lost those first two games, I remember them giving me a hard time for wearing my Yankees cap during one of our practices. One of them said, "You still wearin' that cap" and I replied with all the confidence that I could muster "It ain't over yet, son. Last time I checked it takes four games to win a World Series".

Little did I know at the time (or really even think it possible) we won the next eight straight against the Braves in the Serious and you know I gave that little boy grief after every one of those wins.

Years later that same kid borrowed some of my Yankee stuff for a Halloween party and I believe he is a Yankee fan to this day. Converting the masses, one fan at a time...

2006-09-22 13:30:19
60.   Chyll Will
59 ...priceless!
2006-09-22 13:35:56
61.   Bama Yankee
56 I know that the Pavano stuff gets old to some people, but considering Hideki's video "collection" that joke could have been a lot worse... ;-)
2006-09-22 13:36:14
62.   pistolpete
57 That's why Boston will never be more than a provincial town, IMO. The Boston media assumes everyone who lives within the range of the transmitters is a Sox or Pats fan.

Meanwhile, in 2004 I had to do a complete media boycott for about a month. As many Yankee shills as we have in the tri-state area, there's just as many outlets (if not more) who will run & rehash highlights/details of a Yankee loss into the ground - and one of them happens to be a national cable sports network with 4 letters. ;)

2006-09-22 13:51:47
63.   Chyll Will
62 E$@% is a four-letter word? Naw...
2006-09-22 13:56:39
64.   randym77
SportsTicker is reporting that the Marlins will be firing Girardi after this season:

2006-09-22 13:59:31
65.   wsporter
59 Sweet!

62 I can't watch anything that has to do with it. I find myself changing chanels or leaving the room when that crap comes on. E$@% showed Damon's game 7 HR the other night - couldn't watch. I think I need therapy.

2006-09-22 14:03:43
66.   wsporter
64 My grandfather used to say that if you lay down with dogs you'll get fleas. I hope the Trib. Co. has enough collective brains to hire him. The Cubbies could use a guy with brains and balls.
2006-09-22 14:06:00
67.   Chyll Will
65 do you change from chanel No. 5 to chanel No 19?

Okay, I'm going back to work. I couldn't resist, sorry...

2006-09-22 14:08:36
68.   randym77
66 Given the miracle he's worked with the Marlins, I'm sure someone will hire him.
2006-09-22 14:10:53
69.   wsporter
67 Ouch. Damn. No, that's Channel 56 to Channel 94 usually. No Chanel ever invented could help with the other problem!!! ;-)
2006-09-22 14:12:58
70.   Mick S
Where do I find the starting lineups before game time? My fantasy team is curious if Sheff is playing or not.
2006-09-22 14:20:16
71.   randym77
70 LoHud posts them, but hasn't yet today.

WFAN often has them the earliest, if you're in the area.

2006-09-22 14:30:51
72.   Bama Yankee
71 Randym, why did you pull back the curtain on your source for those lineups you always post so early? I thought you had a glass covered pinstriped phone on a pedestal in your house that was a direct line to Joe Torre's office. Next thing you are going to tell me is that there is no Easter Bunny... ;-)
2006-09-22 14:32:08
73.   randym77
Hey, who says those are my only sources?

I didn't mention my pinstriped crystal ball... ;-)

2006-09-22 14:33:21
74.   Bama Yankee
I knew it, I knew it...
2006-09-22 14:33:35
75.   randym77
According to WFAN:

Damon CF
Cano DH
Jeter SS
Posada C
Sheff 1B
Bernie LF
Guiel RF
Cairo 2B
Green 3B

2006-09-22 14:34:31
76.   Mick S
75 Sweeeeeeet. Thanks
2006-09-22 14:40:03
77.   seamus
I know it only makes sense with that team, but I like how Torre has been putting Cano near the top of the order helping him get those extra plate appearances. :)
2006-09-22 14:40:41
78.   wsporter
72 Whadaya mean there's no Easter Bunny?
2006-09-22 14:59:17
79.   Max
pistolpete, add me to the chorus of people who are incredibly grateful for your uploading all that celebration definitely put a big smile on my face this morning.

I loved seeing Jeter talking to Kim Jones, getting gang-doused by his teammates, and then not breaking stride with her regarding his always diplomatically worded remarks...that clip was just textbook Jeter. (his comment about A-Rod's hug "we've hugged before" was about as chilly was one would expect as well)

Seeing Joe playfully say to Mo "we did it without you" was awesome as well. And in general, anytime I see Mo speak, with that quiet and self-assured confidence, I feel so lucky to be rooting for the good guys.

2006-09-22 15:43:21
80.   randym77
Some interesting stuff posted at LoHud. Torre pretty much threw Pavano under the bus.

And Sheff will be using Craig Wilson's glove...

2006-09-22 15:46:24
81.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
75 The Sheff is in the kitchen. Dinner will be served.
2006-09-22 15:57:28
82.   singledd
You mean Cliff might not be posting JUST BECAUSE HE'S GETTING MARRIED?
For crying out loud........
Pussy-whipped ALREADY!

(ha ha ha, only kidding. Have a great and successful marriage)

2006-09-22 15:58:31
83.   singledd
75 NYY site has Damon OUT, Melky IN.
2006-09-22 16:02:35
84.   randym77
83 Must be a last-minute change. Other sites are still listing Damon.
2006-09-22 16:15:06
85.   randym77
It is Melky in, Damon out.

Bernie in CF. I guess Joe still doesn't trust Guiel in CF, even after that great sliding catch he made.

2006-09-22 16:15:29
86.   mehmattski
D-Rays pregame guy just told me to "stay tuned for the Rankees and Yays... er, Yankees and Rays."

It's gonna be that kind of night, isn't it? Oh well.... go Sheff! I predict 1 for 4 with a double, and a solid first base.

2006-09-22 16:16:05
87.   singledd
Detroit has 3 against KC. We can't afford to many 'house money' lineups. Eeeek... I hate these weak bottom of the lineups.
2006-09-22 16:16:16
88.   randym77
Sounds like Damon hurt himself in BP.
2006-09-22 16:19:49
89.   singledd
Make that 3 against KC, 3 against Toronto and 3 more against KC. The last 6 at home. Nice schedule for them. Oakland has 7 against the Angels and 3 against Seattle (only 3 at home), so we should be OK there.
We should easily have HFA against Oakland and the WC team, so basically Detroit is the only HFA on the line.
2006-09-22 16:20:11
90.   mehmattski
Well, that kinda sucked. I think Melky set up the whole inning for failure, though, with his first pitch rip. Then Robby felt like he needed to take some pitches, which were strikes.

Time for some artificial worms to die.

2006-09-22 16:20:15
91.   JeremyM
87 To be fair KC has been playing pretty decent ball lately.

Geez, I hope Damon is OK. The man is always getting hurt (resisting urge to make Pavano joke....)

2006-09-22 16:21:57
92.   Gagne55
87 If Detroit wins the Central, wouldn't you want to fall behind the A's? Detroit is easily the worst AL playoff team.
2006-09-22 16:22:03
93.   randym77
Well, that's not a promising beginning.
2006-09-22 16:23:20
94.   randym77
Speaking of Pavano jokes...a Red Sox fan posted the following at the Red Sox message board. I like #10 and #11...

The following is done with the utmost respect for the New York Yankees, who once again are kings of the AL East, and likely WS Champions for the 27th time. CONGRATULATIONS!

(But I'll still find time to tweak them.)

Yankee Celebration Moments:

1. Sal Fasano's mustache absorbing every drop of champagne poured onto his head.

2. Mike Mussina jubilantly solving a really hard New York Times crossword puzzle. (8. Across: Seven letter word that begins with a "P," the clue — employee list of wages.)

3. Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield taking turns injecting champagne into their butts.

4. A beer-drenched Alex Rodriguez bouncing around the clubhouse, full of joy, oblivious to the fact that none of his teammates like him.

5. Robinson Cano copping a feel off a distracted Kim Jones.

6. Suzyn Waldman doing the same thing.

7. Speaking of which: Suzyn Waldman and John Sterling after hours in the Lowes Broadcast Booth — if this van is rocking, don't come knocking.

8. Joe Torre taking the fatherly role of changing Melky Cabrera's champagne-soaked diapers.

9. Don Mattingly screaming, "I can finally win the World Series Ring I could NEVER win as a player!"

10. Carl Pavano slipping on spilled beer, landing on his butt, and missing the 2007 season.

11. Derek Jeter winning an award for Best Locker Room Celebrant, and David Ortiz complaining about it. "Hey, I hit 50 home runs! Hello?"

12. From Hideki Matsui's translator: "This fulfilling victory symbolizes a great accomplishment in my career. I am filled with pride, honor and discipline. I think I shall reward myself tonight with an aged bottle of tasty Sake while watching the best-of Jenna Jameson DVD."

13. From Johnny Damon's translator: "We won! Unga-Bunga!"

2006-09-22 16:23:25
95.   mehmattski
Balldelli is apparently playing the role of Eduardo Perez, Yankee Killer. I'm a big Rocco fan, though, since his Durham days.
2006-09-22 16:23:47
96.   JeremyM
Wang has never pitched good against Tampa Bay, has he? At least in Tampa.
2006-09-22 16:25:05
97.   randym77
96 Yeah, Wang doesn't pitch as well away, especially on artificial turf.
2006-09-22 16:25:47
98.   JeremyM
So how's Sheff handling those pick-off throws:)
2006-09-22 16:28:02
99.   mehmattski
Wang has 23.1 IP in his career against Tampa- 1-3, 6.94 ERA... but he has the most strikeouts against Tampa than any other team (9). His ERA at the Trop is 7.31 in 12.1 IP.
2006-09-22 16:29:46
100.   mehmattski
98 I don't think Wang through to first once... probably figured the steal of second was inevitable. My fantasy baseball team, currently in the league finals, is appreciative.
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2006-09-22 16:31:47
101.   JeremyM
100 Gamecenter said he did, which means nothing-they always get stuff wrong.

I know the opinion is mixed on Sheff, but I'm glad he's back.

2006-09-22 16:33:57
102.   mehmattski
Sheff got a pretty nice ovation from the fans at the Trop. Welcome back, buddy.
2006-09-22 16:39:39
103.   mehmattski
Must. Resist Joke. Regarding Chien-Ming and Upton...
2006-09-22 16:40:59
104.   BklynBmr
I'm not likin' one thing about this game yet. The structure has to be the worst in baseball, too. The Twinkiedome is horrible, but this place is depressing...

Sheff had the out at second there...

2006-09-22 16:42:13
105.   JeremyM
104 Yeah, I've been there and it stinks for a baseball stadium. It's a bizarre place to watch a ballgame.
2006-09-22 16:45:21
106.   mehmattski
3 K, 2 GB.

Who are you, and what have you done with Chein-Ming Wang?

2006-09-22 16:47:35
107.   JeremyM
Wang is trying to take it easy on Sheffield. Good for him.
2006-09-22 16:50:27
108.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Hmm, someone's itching a PERFECT GAME! I think it's James Shields of the D-Rays.
2006-09-22 16:54:53
109.   mehmattski
Back in my playing days, I could have itched a perfect game. But I cut my finger in the bullpen, and I was a late scratch.
2006-09-22 16:55:35
110.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Pitching a perfect game dammit, not itching one. James Shields is pitching a perfect game.
2006-09-22 16:56:37
111.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Ack, thought I'd get that in there before anyone noticed it, but Mattski beat me to it.
2006-09-22 16:56:51
112.   randym77
Sheff looked like Giambi there, scooping it out of the dirt. Jeter was cracking up.
2006-09-22 16:57:06
113.   mehmattski
Nice scoop there by Sheff. He has a Zone Rating of 1.000!
2006-09-22 16:58:18
114.   Simone
Sheffield looks good at 1st so far. Jeter was laughing at him as he stretched to scoop the ball.
2006-09-22 16:59:49
115.   BklynBmr
105 Never been there, but on the tube it looks very poorly lit. Just an ugly and joyless place. Of course, the team does nothing to help that ;-)

108 Maybe Shields read Torre's quote about not wanting to throw Sheff at Halladay in his first game back. Still, the fact he's tossing a perfect game is amazing...

2006-09-22 17:01:01
116.   mehmattski
The Rays' AFLAC Trivia Question is:

Who manufactured the first Kazoo?

2006-09-22 17:01:42
117.   Simone
Robbie on fire! He steals that batting title.
2006-09-22 17:01:58
118.   BklynBmr
Oh, dontcha know!
2006-09-22 17:02:11
119.   kylepetterson
Are we just swinging terrible or is he just itching that good?

Not so perfect now, is it?

2006-09-22 17:02:40
120.   kylepetterson
116 Ricardo H. Kazoo?
2006-09-22 17:02:48
121.   BklynBmr
Mauer 1-2, up to .345
2006-09-22 17:03:05
122.   mehmattski
"Remember, we parked in the Itchy lot."
2006-09-22 17:03:32
123.   BklynBmr
116 Karim Garcia?
2006-09-22 17:06:12
124.   kylepetterson
112 Do'H!
2006-09-22 17:06:24
125.   singledd
Was Sheff running on that groundout? It was his wrist that was injured, not his knee, right?
2006-09-22 17:07:45
126.   mehmattski
116 For those who care, the answer is Thaddeus Von Clegg, a German clockmaker in Macon, GA, for the 1852 Georgia State Fair. He was following the design of a slave named Alabama Vest. So, the kazoo was invented by two guys with pretty much the best names ever.
2006-09-22 17:08:36
127.   kylepetterson
126 That was my next guess!
2006-09-22 17:11:34
128.   kylepetterson
is it pronounced "Dee-on-er" or "J-oner"?
2006-09-22 17:14:08
129.   BL-YF
OK - I am still lost here in Gameday land. What happened with that inning ending DP?
2006-09-22 17:14:46
130.   mehmattski
128 His page claims "dee-ahner." But I have no idea.
2006-09-22 17:15:32
131.   mehmattski
129 Wiggington was running on the play, and ther was a line drive that Jeter jumped to his right and snagged. Wiggington had already rounded second and Jeter just tagged him out.
2006-09-22 17:15:32
132.   kylepetterson
2006-09-22 17:16:12
133.   BL-YF
Excellent, Love the Cap'n
2006-09-22 17:18:34
134.   BklynBmr
A Guiel walk is as good as a triple...
2006-09-22 17:18:47
135.   kylepetterson
If Shields throws a wild pitch, is that an inside the park home run?
2006-09-22 17:21:15
136.   randym77
That was close. Baldelli did not look happy.
2006-09-22 17:22:59
137.   mehmattski
136 He should be careful though, or else Delmon might throw a bat. Nope, I'm not gonna let him live that down.
2006-09-22 17:26:38
138.   mehmattski
Is this the fastest moving Yankees game all year, or what?
2006-09-22 17:27:14
139.   randym77
A Bernie double.
2006-09-22 17:27:25
140.   BklynBmr
No respect, I tell ya. No respect...
2006-09-22 17:28:43
141.   mehmattski
Well, that was a little Bernie, and a lot of hustle by Perez. Came out strong out of the box. I bet he makes second on Damon too, if Johnny had the same kind of brain fart, flipping the ball to the cutoff man.

Another nice scoop from Sheff.

2006-09-22 17:29:16
142.   randym77
Derek "GG" Jeter erases it...
2006-09-22 17:31:58
143.   randym77
141 I don't think he'd have tried it on Damon. Damon's arm isn't great, but it's better than Bernie's. And Damon's wheels are still great. Perez didn't even think about slowing down as he rounded 1B.
2006-09-22 17:32:32
144.   BklynBmr
Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2006 American League Batting Champion.... Robinson Cano.
2006-09-22 17:34:46
145.   kylepetterson
How many more at bats does he need? Is it possible?
2006-09-22 17:36:09
146.   randym77
Mauer's 1 for 2 so far tonight.
2006-09-22 17:36:57
147.   randym77
145 He'll make it.
2006-09-22 17:39:02
148.   mehmattski
That is a Bernie double.
2006-09-22 17:40:32
149.   singledd
Mauer at .345, Cano at .341, Derek at... er... MVP!
2006-09-22 17:42:00
150.   BklynBmr
145 I believe it's four ABs tonight and he's on the list...
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2006-09-22 17:42:14
151.   singledd
The TB announcers are very impressed with CMW
2006-09-22 17:42:29
152.   pistolpete
Oh c'mon Sheff, now you're just scooping everything on purpose!!! ;-)
2006-09-22 17:43:12
153.   randym77
Sheff, Mr. GG...
2006-09-22 17:44:24
154.   randym77
151 Really? The YES announcers are fretting about how he's giving up so many fly balls.
2006-09-22 17:44:38
155.   BklynBmr
153 Small sample, but he has my vote ;-)
2006-09-22 17:47:58
156.   BklynBmr
Came across this recently on Bernie. His contract for 2006 is for $1.5M straight up, and up to $1.5M in incentives, which basically are plate appearances.

He earns $115,384.62 for every 25 plate appearances from 150 to 450. Coming into tonight, he has had 437 PAs.

Who'da thunk it?

2006-09-22 17:48:05
157.   mehmattski
The standard is 3.1 Plate Appearances/Team Game, so in 153 games played, a player needs 474.3 PA to qualify. Cano had 470 coming into today's game, so he needs another two at bats, I'm guessing.
2006-09-22 17:48:54
158.   pistolpete
2006-09-22 17:49:01
159.   randym77
Ralph Malph!
2006-09-22 17:49:23
160.   kylepetterson
2006-09-22 17:49:28
161.   BklynBmr
A moon shot from Malphy!
2006-09-22 17:49:32
162.   pistolpete
Damn, at least I could have spelled his name right.
2006-09-22 17:50:24
163.   BklynBmr
Allright, Miggy! Everybody hits.
2006-09-22 17:50:27
164.   Eirias
What a tricky home-run, one might it guielful.
2006-09-22 17:52:10
165.   kylepetterson
2006-09-22 17:52:14
166.   AbbyNormal821
Great home run by Gueil - but one question - does anyone know where his eyebrows went???
(feelin' sassy tonight!)
2006-09-22 17:52:39
167.   BklynBmr
162 Hey, don't worry about that — your money's no good here, dogg. I'm not sure of that one either, so I go with 'Malph" ;-)
2006-09-22 17:53:17
168.   mehmattski
The Melkman delivers!

Man, I'm never gonna get tired of saying that.

2006-09-22 17:53:22
169.   3rd gen yankee fan
rob-BIE rob-BIE rob-BIE
2006-09-22 17:53:31
170.   randym77
How long are they going to leave Shields in there? He's losing it.
2006-09-22 17:53:47
171.   JeremyM
I really like Guiel, he's a solid bench player. Hopefully he'll be back next year.
2006-09-22 17:53:53
172.   singledd
145 I believe he must gain 4 ABS while posting 3.1 per game. If he gets 5 ABs today, tomorrow he will be 2+/- ABs away.

LoHud mentioned that Torre was aware of Cano's need for ABs. So unless he's out of it later in the week, I expect Torre will give him the ABs he needs.

If he gets 4 ABs today, he needs another 28 over 9 games. It will be close but he should ge there.

I calculate PAs as: ABs + BBs + SacBs + SacFs + IBBs + HPs

2006-09-22 17:56:05
173.   kdw
Hey, just wanted to add my thanks to PistolPete for all the time and effort in loading the celebration clips. The play-by-play here was great but it's even better to actually see it all. Thanks again.
2006-09-22 17:56:33
174.   weeping for brunnhilde
To get back on my horse about Melky, did you all see that hitting?

That plate coverage? The way he was fooled on the pitch yet still managed to put a good swing on it?

That was just such, such great hitting, as was Bernie's single before that.

Hitting like that impresses me far more than anything Sheffield can do. No offense to Sheffield, it's just that I find the poetry of hitting so much more gratifying than the power of hitting.

That is all. Carry on.

2006-09-22 17:56:41
175.   singledd
172 We keep says ABs, but it's really Plate Appearances.
2006-09-22 17:58:28
176.   BklynBmr
Up to the minute:

Mauer .345
Cano .340
MVP .337

2006-09-22 17:58:39
177.   JeremyM
Is Wang throwing his splitter 90% still, or has he changed up his gameplan a bit since it's turf? I've heard he can throw in the mid-upper 90s with decent movement and wondered if he should feature that a little more.
2006-09-22 18:00:54
178.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
How relaxing are the next 10 days or so going to be, just enjoying watching Melky and Cano hit....hopefully Sheff and Matsui get enough work...hope Proctor and the pen get some rest and just sit back and enjoy....
2006-09-22 18:00:59
179.   mehmattski
177 I can't say for sure across the board, but certainly the strikeout of Zobrist in the second was a wicked moving fastball that didn't really look like a skinker. It looked like a traditional 2-seam fastball, that moved away from the lefthanded hitter. Zobrist just waved at it, then stood staring at his bat afterward. The FSN gun had that pitch at 94. That's just one play, but that one had an impression on me.
2006-09-22 18:01:39
180.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan

I would love to see Cano win the title and let Jeter take home the MVP

2006-09-22 18:01:46
181.   pistolpete
173 Jeez, I gotta bookmark this thread - I don't think I've ever built up as much goodwill on the internet as I have today... ;-)
2006-09-22 18:02:14
182.   randym77
Cannizaro in, Sheff out, for defensive purposes, but Bernie's still in CF. Is Kevin Thompson still alive?
2006-09-22 18:04:22
183.   singledd
Lets see Papi do that!
2006-09-22 18:04:32
184.   BklynBmr
158 That's a good one, pistol! Has anyone caught a Sterling call for a Malph dinger? Not that there have been that many, just wondering...
2006-09-22 18:05:24
185.   mehmattski
A bunt single's as good as a triple...
2006-09-22 18:07:25
186.   pistolpete
Was a suicide squeeze really necessary here? Weird play.
2006-09-22 18:07:33
187.   BklynBmr
Well, if nothing else, ya gotta love the call...
2006-09-22 18:08:08
188.   randym77
Weird play. Suicide squeeze, but the Rays pitched out. Cannizaro almost hit the pitchout.
2006-09-22 18:09:27
189.   singledd
Have we had a suicide squeeze all year?
And yet TB pitches out on our 1st?
Do we give them the sign?
2006-09-22 18:10:58
190.   singledd
Do we see Mo in the 9th?
We need mo Mo.
2006-09-22 18:10:59
191.   Bama Yankee
187 Yeah, I like the call too. How long has it been since the Yankees tried the suicide squeeze, the Carter administration?
2006-09-22 18:11:05
192.   mehmattski
Ok, now we never need to see that ever again.

Hey, it's Scott Proctor! He's never in the game, I'm glad we finally get to see him.

2006-09-22 18:12:24
193.   singledd
Is CMW our #1 in the PS? Throws 2 games against the WC winner?
2006-09-22 18:13:09
194.   pistolpete
192 It's either pitching an inning or arm wrestling with Farnsworth in the bullpen.

Wow, great last 2 innings for Wang and Proctor.

2006-09-22 18:14:37
195.   singledd
Dr. Proctor with a 7 pitch inning.
2006-09-22 18:14:42
196.   yankeemonkey
Wasn't Farnswacker shown warming up in the pen? Don't tell me his back quit on him again...
2006-09-22 18:14:48
197.   mehmattski
Man, what a difference it makes not having Abreu and Giambi and Damon in the lineup... the game flies by. This game's gonna be under 2:30. Is that the fastest Yankees game of the year? More importantly, what am I gonna do with the other two hours I had alloted for baseball watching tonight?
2006-09-22 18:15:04
198.   randym77
They said Mo will see three batters tonight, no matter how the game goes.
2006-09-22 18:17:14
199.   rsmith51
198 Three batters. I like the confidence.
2006-09-22 18:18:03
200.   BklynBmr
What's the time count on this game? Has to be one of the shortest this season, no?
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2006-09-22 18:18:16
201.   yankeemonkey
197 Yeah, this game is zooming by. Of course it helps to have Wang pitching, he's ridiculously efficient.
2006-09-22 18:18:58
202.   Bama Yankee
Since I'm late getting back to the party, I need to clean up a few items:
123 "Who is Kazoo Garcia?"
126 mehmattski, are you some kind of Kazoo Rainman?
126 Alabama Vest is a cool name. My wife actually has an Alabama vest, it has the Crimson Tide logos on it and she wears sometimes when we go to a Bama football game.
2006-09-22 18:19:10
203.   yankeemonkey
200 About 2 hours 10 minutes so far...
2006-09-22 18:21:29
204.   Benjamin Kabak
Why is Gameday telling me Ruddy Lugo replaced Scott Proctor?
2006-09-22 18:22:29
205.   BklynBmr
197 LOL! Sorry, I didn't catch your post before mine — that's what happens when you hit 'Submit' before reloading the page ;-)

Great line about Giambi, JD and Bobby A!

2006-09-22 18:23:49
206.   randym77
Crap. Posada got nailed.
2006-09-22 18:24:40
207.   Bama Yankee
Man, Posada is one tough dude...
2006-09-22 18:24:45
208.   mehmattski
202 Wikipedia is my friend. So is the toolbar Wikipedia search in Firefox. Alabama vest. Heh. I guess that makes me Jersey Golf Shirt.

Right now I'm trying to find out what the shortest Yankee game of the year has been. It's going to take a while if I go through all 152 box scores, anyone have a better idea?

Sheff's back. Mo's back. Robbie's on the batting title hunt and hit another homer. Posada didn't get impaled by a broken bat. This is a good day.

2006-09-22 18:26:19
209.   JeremyM
Anyone think Posada confused the shard of bat with the baseball? Did he sling it into the on-deck circle to the bat-boy?
2006-09-22 18:26:29
210.   AbbyNormal821
204 'cause Gameday sucks butt! Mine's waaay behind too!
2006-09-22 18:27:16
211.   randym77
Bruney's warming.
2006-09-22 18:28:36
212.   JeremyM
Who the hell is Rivera? I thought Veras was the closer.
2006-09-22 18:29:03
213.   Bama Yankee
208 Did you know that Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales is from Alabama?
2006-09-22 18:30:38
214.   Bama Yankee
209 I thought he was throwing it as Mike Piazza.
2006-09-22 18:32:41
215.   mehmattski
Theeeeeee Yankees win!
2006-09-22 18:32:49
216.   kdw
Mo!!!! It's great to have him back.
2006-09-22 18:33:11
217.   Bama Yankee
214 make that at Mike Piazza (he did not have time to put on his Mike Piazza costume).
2006-09-22 18:33:11
218.   BklynBmr
Mo is THE MAN. Now, let's go KC Spoils, who just tied that sucker up in Kansas City...
2006-09-22 18:33:21
219.   JeremyM
214 I don't quite know what Clemens was thinking, but I really don't think he was trying to spear Piazza that night. But I still love his explanation. You know, Clemens went through about the same thing that A-Rod is going through now. He wasn't clutch, pitched big in meaningless games, hired gun, etc.
2006-09-22 18:34:25
220.   yankeemonkey
Mo strikes out the side!
2006-09-22 18:34:34
221.   JeremyM
3 Ks, a broken bat single, a HBP, and one save. Very nice. I love this guy.
2006-09-22 18:37:39
222.   kdw
And on the radio post-game, Mo says he's just another guy in the bullpen. Right.
2006-09-22 18:37:54
223.   Bama Yankee
219 Same here. You know, I always liked Clemens (even when he was with the Red Sox) since I always had him on my fantasy team. I remember that bat thing firing me up during that series. I'm sure he was just pumped up for the game and did not know what to do with the bat. Good comparison on the A-Rod thing.
2006-09-22 18:47:27
224.   nemecizer
Good to see Mo back. I love that man ... in a totally non-gay way.

Sox are up 7-1 but our win will take one more off their wild card standings, right? 1 to go and they are completely eliminated.

2006-09-22 18:51:13
225.   JeremyM
224 No, only the teams in front of them for the WC can do that.
2006-09-22 19:07:43
226.   BklynBmr
Best record in MLB — 93-60...
2006-09-22 19:11:39
227.   marc
Farnsy's back locked up again today. Bruney is looking like he'll be an incredible asset in the PS especially given Farnsy's unreliability.

With Sheff at first the timing is amazing given the seriousness of Giambi's problems. I'm sure Sheff's swing is fine given the trademark vicious foul ball he hit today.

2006-09-22 19:14:39
228.   mehmattski
I know that everyone is eagerly awaiting the results of my research regarding the shortest game of the year for the Yankees. I must ask you all to be very patient, as it is really frustrating, as most sites have box scores hidden behind game recaps, and there is much clicking involved. I've only gotten through April (shortest game: 2:32 against Baltimore on 4/23), so I've got five months to go... If only retrosheet had box scores for 2006, this would be muuuuuch easier.
2006-09-22 19:24:09
229.   kdw
Take your time, we can just flip over to YouTube and watch PistolPete's masterpiece. Yes, still thanking you.
2006-09-22 19:41:46
230.   Simone
Too funny. Even his coaches are ripping Pavano, from the NY Times (

"Pavano has missed time with injuries to his shoulder, back, buttocks, elbow and ribs. Before he shook his hand, Torre jokingly asked Pavano if that was O.K. "I don't know what's hurting," Torre said.

The pitching coach Ron Guidry greeted Pavano with a smile and a punch line. "You got a new car?" Guidry said. "Why don't you buy yourself a bicycle and put an airbag on the side?"

2006-09-22 19:52:24
231.   marc
Sterling said it was by far and away the fastest game of the year. I think he had the prior fastest because he said some huge amount this one beat it by. He thought it might go well beyond this year but if someone wants to come up with the last 10 fastest game it would be a fine project though you may miss all the games the rest of the season.
2006-09-22 20:28:19
232.   mehmattski
Okay, here goes (none of the following includes rain delays, it's actual duration of baseball played). In 2006, the fastest Yankee game was indeed tonight's game, at 2 hours and 17 minutes. Yahoo Sports, from whom I was getting box score data, reported that the 9/2/06 game against the Twins took 1:28, but I've checked that and it's actually 2:28 according to CBS (though it does make me doubt the accuracy of all the other times). The Yanks have played four games (5/12 v Oak, 5/31 at Det, 8/24 at Sea, 9/2 vs Min) of official duration 2:28, so it isn't "far and away" the fastest game (as in 231), it's only eleven minutes.

Some other truly useless information:
The average Yankees game this year has taken 3 hours and 8 minutes. This works out to an average of 3:05 before the Abreu trade, 3:18 since then. Wins have averaged 3:06 while losses have averaged 3:09.

There have been three games of four hours or longer (and two at 3:59).

This works out to 153 games in 479 hours, 24 minutes of baseball. This is 11.5% of the 4,152 hours that have passed between April 3, 2006 (opening day) and today.

Now that I have this huge and useless database up, any other questions? I can sort by score, team date, and oddly enough, which networks the games were on...

2006-09-22 21:04:56
233.   kdw
Anyone still around and watching the Padres and Pirates, Chris Young pitching in 8th on ESPN?
2006-09-22 21:07:17
234.   mehmattski
233 I just tuned in. He's on my fantasy team!
2006-09-22 21:12:12
235.   kdw
Congrats on that. Sure would be nice for the both of you. :)
2006-09-22 21:19:16
236.   kdw
Damn it, that sucks for Young.
2006-09-22 21:20:38
237.   yankz
236 Wow, I am a real bad luck charm; it ended 2 pitches after I tuned in.

Although I did watch the end of Sanchez's so I guess not.

Oh, and I'd MUCH rather the Captain win the title than Cano- Robbie Rocket has far more opportunies left.

2006-09-22 21:20:58
238.   mehmattski
Fucking Joe Randa.... who pinch hits down 6 runs in the ninth, anyway?
2006-09-22 21:25:28
239.   Yu-Hsing Chen
204 because obviously Proctor needs more work in, so he pitched for both sides in the 8th!!
2006-09-22 21:37:34
240.   kdw
237 Me too re Jeter. Altho if we could know he had the MVP locked up, wouldn't care so much.
2006-09-22 22:15:07
241.   BklynBmr
232 Wow. Thanks for the effort. Very interesting stuff —

"This works out to 153 games in 479 hours, 24 minutes of baseball. This is 11.5% of the 4,152 hours that have passed between April 3, 2006 (opening day) and today."

No wonder my income, productivity and client satisfaction are all down this year. I think I actually double that time watching or listening to every game, then reading recaps, blogs, box scores, and staring at the standings for 15 minutes after a win. Never mind talking on the phone with my baseball-minded buds. Then — when the morning paper arrives, I'll read the same f'n AP report, the stuff I read 8 times online the night before, stare at the standings and pour over the box score — again, the same ones I read the night before. How sick is that?

Again, mehmattski, thanks for the info. That took some doing, much appreciated!

2006-09-23 06:39:21
242.   Sliced Bread
232 Good stuff, mehmattski.

231 For Sterling, it probably felt like "far and away" the shortest game of the year because Suzyn wasn't there.

I've actually gotten used to Waldman to the point that she doesn't bug me anymore. I'll listen to the radio a lot more during the playoffs as I can't stand the Fox and ESPN guys.

It was great listening to Tino last night.

2006-09-23 06:42:46
243.   Bama Yankee
232 Great job mehmattsi. That is some interesting stuff. Thanks for taking the time to research that. I do have one question: How many games have been broadcast on YES this year (not including the My9 games)?

I have Extra Innings and MLB.TV and therefore get to watch most games (of course I don't always get the YES broadcast). I was wondering if I would be better off switching to a dish instead of cable so I could get YES in a sports package (if that is even possible) and save the cost of EI.

Does anyone else do this (get YES on a dish outside the NY area)? I guess I would also need someway to get My9 on the dish as well (since they show a lot of the games as well). Maybe I'm just better off sticking with what I have. Any advice?

2006-09-23 06:46:50
244.   Bama Yankee
242 Thanks for the report on Tino, Sliced. I wondered how he would do. I wanted to tune in over the internet, but by the time I got to my computer the game was almost over. I only caught the post game.

BTW, good one about Sterling thinking the game was shorter because of the absence of Waldman. I agree that she is better than the FOX guys, but I would like to hear some variety in the booth every now and then (mostly on Saturdays, since that is when I usually have to listen... Stupid FOX blackout).

2006-09-23 06:54:56
245.   Rosbif22
243 I switched over to satellite, partly because of the possibility of getting the YES network. With DirecTV, it looks like the games are blacked out (as in, they forcibly want to make you buy EI). For me, oh well, because I was going to switch anyway, but it's certainly disappointing. While I haven't completely confirmed that the games are always unavailable, the few times that I have tried to watch them the TV says "Channel not purchased"...but, interestingly enough, I can see the channel anytime there ISN'T a game.
2006-09-23 06:56:16
246.   Rosbif22
243 PS - I don't know if it makes a huge difference, but I live in Southern California (certainly not in the Yankees main market, where I might expect the games to be blacked out). Same thing happens on NESN as well.
2006-09-23 07:34:29
247.   Sliced Bread
244 Good idea re: shuffling the radio commentators. They should have a radio rotation like they do on YES.
I think Sterling had a blast calling the game with Tino, but it didn't really improve Sterling's game. Watching along on TV, you can see how much he misses sometimes. He called Cairo, Green and Green, Cairo several times, which was entertaining.
2006-09-23 08:06:01
248.   Javi Javi
243 Doesn't work. They black out the games.
2006-09-23 09:13:26
249.   wsporter
Shef looked pretty good last night around the bag. Mo looked great too. Robby is closing in on the Batting Title. Gordon Edes has had enough of Manny and apparently so have many of his teammates.

This is shaping up to be a good day, think I'll have waffles.

2006-09-23 10:22:40
250.   rsmith51
243 They do black out the games and several of the shows. However I watch the postgame, especially in the postseason. I believe that is only available with Directv. Even if EI is shown by another team you can still get the postgame. Basically you need EI and the sports package to get it. Another thing, the replays of the games are blacked out. So don't get it for that.
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2006-09-23 10:36:44
251.   singledd
Comcast in NH does NOT have YES, but they offer MLB.TV on the TV (as opposed to the computer, where I have it now). It would still have Saturday FOX (assholes) blackouts, but should get all the other games. Like (computer) MLB.TV, who does the broadcast is never known... but its seems like a good option. My issue is that they wanted over $30/month for it... seems a bit expensive.

Is everyone saying that getting YES on Satellite OUTSIDE the NY area is still NO good... subject to 'local' blackouts?

2006-09-23 10:43:58
252.   singledd
249 Just Manny being Pavano.
2006-09-23 12:12:34
253.   Shaun P
251 singledd, I live in Mass., and I have DirecTV with the Extra Innings package. Here's how I best understand it.

When the Yanks and Sox play, regardless of where, I get the NESN feed, never YES. I hate this even though Remy and Orsillo aren't bad announcers.

Except for Red Sox games:

When the Yanks are at home and the game is on YES, I get the YES feed.

When the Yanks are at home and the game is on My9 (local NYC station) if the away team is broadcasting the game on their cable channel, I get that feed. If the away team is showing it on a local channel, no game.

When the Yanks are on the road, and the home team's game is on their cable channel, I get that feed.

When the Yanks are on the road, and the home team's game is on their local channel, if YES is broadcasting the game, I get the YES feed. If My9 has the game instead, no game.

I really wish I could just pay whatever amount of money and get the Yankee feed for each Yankee game. But that would be too simple.

2006-09-23 12:56:04
254.   singledd
253 Thanks Shawn.. although I have some questions. DirecTV with the Extra Innings: Are these both part of CABLE TV? Satellite? Something else (is there anything else)?

It seems that YES is an exclusively CABLE channel... while MY9 is the local Yankees station (was WPIX channel 11 when I was a kid)?

Jeez... its complicated. Do you get other YES channel stuff (pre/post game, specials, etc)?

It seems MLB.TV for TV is the best alternative, as it has ALL games except for FOX blackouts (or so Comcast says). Do you have Comcast? If not, does your cable provider offer MLB.TV for TV like Comcast does?

Its hard for me to believe that someone who WANTS to go to a live Baseball game, would decide NOT to because it was on TV. Plus, there is a TV advertising revenue lost (I would guess) when games are blacked out.

Do 'TV Blackouts' really produce better game attendance? Has this been studied?

What a freakin'pain in the ass.

Thanks for your help.

2006-09-23 13:06:18
255.   singledd
RE: Cano qualifying..
According to ESPN stats, Cano has 472 TPA.
Total plate appearances = AB + BB + HBP + SF + SH + times reached on defensive interference. While IBBs are listed separately, that are included in the BB stat (so I double counted by 3 IBBs yesterday).

At present, 474.3 TPAs are needed to qualify, so Cano needs to average 3.1 PAs/game PLUS add 3 more PAs. Or if 503 PA's are needed at season's end, Cano needs 31 more PA's over the next 9 games. So he can actually sit out ONE game and still qualify, if he averages 4 PA's (x 8 games) per game.

2006-09-23 13:07:37
256.   singledd
P.S. GO CANO (no offense Jetes)

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