Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Sweet Love Hangover?
2006-09-13 13:13
by Cliff Corcoran
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Last night the Yankees returned home from the road, dropped a nine-spot on the D-Rays in the bottom of the first that featured 6 RBIs from deadline pick-up and emerging fan favorite Bobby Abreu, got 6 1/3 scoreless innings from recently activated rotation vet Mike Mussina, and saw Hideki Matsui return from four months on the DL to a tremendous ovation followed by a four-for-four performance in which he reached base in all five trips to the plate. That's a tough act to follow, especially with Cory Lidle, who has been exactly what the Yankees needed in the fifth spot in the rotation, even if that does mean he's been pitching like a fifth starter.

Lidle's last four starts have alternated twelve scoreless innings with a pair of disaster outings in which he gave up a combined 11 runs in 5 1/3 innings, inflating his Yankee ERA to 4.81. His opponent tonight will be 24-year-old rookie Jason Hammel. Hammel, a tall slender righty, has made five career big league starts, two back in April and three in a row leading up to tonight. His last, which came at home against the Twins, was the best: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 3 BB, 4 K. Hammel has progressed steadily through the Devil Rays organization and has solid hit, walk and strikeout rates in the minors, so there's reason to believe tonight will be the first of many times the Yankees face him over the next several years as he projects as a mid-rotation mainstay for the Rays.

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2006-09-13 13:43:39
1.   mehmattski
I've been waiting a couple of days for this game thread, just to ask the following questions:

If the Yankees can take care of multiple Hamels (Cole, 7 IP, 2 R on 6/21/06), can they take care of just one Hammel?

Or perhaps Jason will bring balance to The Force, like Mark Hamill?

2006-09-13 14:07:00
2.   Bama Yankee
1 Man, you should have stuck to that other thread... Just kidding, I like the Mark Hamill reference.
2006-09-13 14:12:39
3.   randym77
I almost feel sorry for the D-Rays...

Johnny Damon CF
Derek Jeter SS
Bobby Abreu RF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Jason Giambi 1B
Jorge Posada C
Robinson Cano 2B
Hideki Matsui DH
Melky Cabrera LF

2006-09-13 14:13:58
4.   JL25and3
1 Well said.
2006-09-13 14:15:37
5.   Bama Yankee
4 LOL. The streak continues...
2006-09-13 15:00:12
6.   Eirias
I just hope that this won't be another instance of the Yankees facing "Cy-att URP."
2006-09-13 15:02:59
7.   Eirias
Damn, Garcia has gotta be pissed with his CFer.
2006-09-13 15:03:08
8.   kylepetterson posts a headline about Garcia (CHW) pitching a perfect game thus far. I click on the gameday, next batter hits a single. Oops.
2006-09-13 15:05:25
9.   mehmattski
8 Even worse, they cut to the game live on Sportscenter, only for Garcia to throw ball 3, jeopardizing the perfect game... and then the next pitch, Kennedy gets the single. It's good to know there aren't any Nazi slave owners over at the four letter network.
2006-09-13 15:10:29
10.   seamus
i hope guillen throws garcia back out there for a CG-SO. I had Garcia and Liriano starting for my fantasy team today. Garcia CG-SO would be a huge boost for my playoff chances!
2006-09-13 15:20:40
11.   seamus
oh well. A complete game shutout would have been huge for my fantasy team, but a combined 10 IP with 0 ER, 2H, 0 BB, and 5 Ks sure didn't hurt!
2006-09-13 15:26:00
12.   yankeemonkey
Over on Yahoo! they list Fasano instead of Posada starting at catcher. Anyone know why?
2006-09-13 15:30:20
13.   backstop20
Matsui DH
2006-09-13 15:30:32
14.   weeping for brunnhilde
11 Please, please, for the love of all things holy, a shutout is a complete game!

(Sorry, major pet peeve of mine. Carry on.)

2006-09-13 15:31:16
15.   backstop20
The only thing they said was Posada has the day off.
2006-09-13 15:33:46
16.   randym77
Hmm. Must have changed the lineup. Either that or Pete got it wrong. According to YES and USA Today, this is the lineup:

Johnny Damon CF
Derek Jeter SS
Bobby Abreu RF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Jason Giambi 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Hideki Matsui DH
Melky Cabrera LF
Sal Fasano C

2006-09-13 15:34:24
17.   Eirias
I just watched the recap for Garcia's game on Sportscenter and I was quite amused to see they had promo banners for "Everyone's Hero" on either side of home plate... in Anaheim.
2006-09-13 15:40:43
18.   RIYank
Mauer also got the day off today, although not completely since he pinch hit. 0 for 1, and he lost about half a point and remains rounded off at .348.
Kind of a shame for Jeter that Mauer didn't get more AB today, since Haren was pitching great.
2006-09-13 15:41:08
19.   randym77
Torre didn't know that Jeter's streak continued. He thought he'd ruined it by putting in a pinch-hitter.

Torre also says he might bench Melky and give Matsui his job back. Not today, but before the end of the season.

I had a feeling he would. Just can't resist the lure of veteran-ness, at least when it's sitting there on the bench next to him.

2006-09-13 15:41:41
20.   Bama Yankee
12 Are they just letting Fasano catch Lidle since he is more familiar with him?
2006-09-13 15:45:19
21.   SF Yanks
Liriano out for season. -ESPN News
2006-09-13 15:47:52
22.   Javi Javi
21 oof. I feel bad for they guy.

20 Probably helped the decision, which I think is correct. Torre should be looking to rest the starters as much as possible, particularly Jorge.

2006-09-13 15:48:39
23.   randym77
20 I think that's part of it. They also said they wanted to rest Jorgie for the upcoming doubleheader.
2006-09-13 15:51:03
24.   RIYank
21 Oh, man. Whew. I mean, no, of course...

Resting Jorge for the doubleheader: huh? He's not going to play both games that day, is he?

2006-09-13 15:52:39
25.   backstop20

Jorge Posada is out and Sal Fasano in (hitting ninth).

The Yankees want Posada to catch Randy Johnson on Saturday night, so he needed to get a day off at some point. Otherwise he would catch seven days in a row. No point in that.

2006-09-13 15:53:45
26.   Jeteupthemiddle
19 he said he might give Matsui his job back and bench Melky because Sheffield may be ready and for no other reason.

I dont' like Sheffield, and I do prefer Melky (and I absolutely prefer Melky the left fielder over Matsui the left fielder) but if Sheffield returns and is "normal Sheff" then you can't blame Torre for wanting his and Cabrera's bat in the lineup.

it isn't a "veteran-ness" thing, it is a "Sheffield is a clearly better hitter than Melky when he is healthy and right" thing. Which is sound logic.

2006-09-13 15:53:59
27.   yankeemonkey
19 Urgh re: Matsui and Melky. Didn't Torre say just a few days ago he wouldn't put Matsui in the field for fear of an injury? Then again, if Sheff IS ready to go, Melky is the odd man out in order to fit all the superstars in. Thanks for playing, kid.

Seems like all that is contingent on Sheff coming back and being effective. And I almost wish he doesn't/isn't.

2006-09-13 15:56:08
28.   randym77
24 LOL! No, I don't think that's what they meant. I think they meant they want Fasano to be rested, too, so they're pitching him early in the week.
2006-09-13 15:58:02
29.   RIYank
28 Wow, I didn't know Sal could pitch.
2006-09-13 15:58:37
30.   randym77
27 Torre's surely going to be earning his paycheck, figuring out who gets on the post-season roster and who doesn't.
2006-09-13 15:59:54
31.   randym77
29 Man, you're giving me a hard time tonight. ;-)

I was using the word in the generic, non-baseball sense. Which probably wasn't a smart thing to do. :-P

2006-09-13 16:01:20
32.   RIYank
Anyway, I get the idea. And I'd love to see Sal play a lot this month, frankly.
2006-09-13 16:03:28
33.   randym77
I wonder if we'll get to see Wil Nieves?

If not when we're up 12-0, then when?

2006-09-13 16:07:43
34.   RIYank
I wonder if maybe Joe is thinking about the pitchers, not wanting to entrust them to Wil.

By the way, do you think Wil Nieves and Cla Meredith ever get together and commiserate?

2006-09-13 16:09:47
35.   yankeemonkey
Well that didn't take long...
2006-09-13 16:09:48
36.   RIYank
Don't worry about it, Cory.
2006-09-13 16:10:16
37.   randym77
Well, that's not a promising start.

I don't suppose Joe would consider leaving Lidle off the postseason roster, and using Karstens instead?

2006-09-13 16:10:51
38.   BklynBmr
Uffh! Karstens is looking better and better. Hopefully that was one mistake, and Lidle will have a quality start...
2006-09-13 16:10:51
39.   RIYank
Sterling just pointed out that a leadoff home run is a good thing, because it gives you an immediate lead.
2006-09-13 16:11:31
40.   BklynBmr
37 great minds ;-)
2006-09-13 16:11:44
41.   randym77
Tampa bails Lidle out, letting Young swing on 3-0 for an easy groundout.
2006-09-13 16:12:56
42.   RIYank
2006-09-13 16:13:19
43.   yankeemonkey
Hmmm.....get that Karstens kid up!
2006-09-13 16:13:19
44.   BklynBmr
Cashman: "I wouldn't have pulled the trigger on the Abreu deal unless Abreu was included."
2006-09-13 16:14:11
45.   Simone
Lidle is having another one of those kinds of nights.
2006-09-13 16:14:31
46.   Javi Javi
45 Lidle is pitching himself into designated ice cream sandwich eater for the post season.
2006-09-13 16:14:49
47.   yankeemonkey
OK, how does this guy holds down the Red Sox and the Twins, and gets slapped around by the likes of O's and DRays/
2006-09-13 16:15:43
48.   randym77
Jeez, if Young hadn't swung on 3-0, he'd probably have been on 1B when the second homer was hit.
2006-09-13 16:16:12
49.   3rd gen yankee fan
:::loooooooooooong sigh:::
2006-09-13 16:17:59
50.   yankeemonkey
Giambi should've had that.. Grr.
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2006-09-13 16:18:01
51.   yankeemonkey
Giambi should've had that.. Grr.
2006-09-13 16:18:16
52.   randym77
Did A-Rod get an error on that throw?
2006-09-13 16:18:17
53.   RIYank
We may need a bunch again today.
2006-09-13 16:19:12
54.   LI yankee
Lidle is looking like bad Randy, everything getting smoked.
2006-09-13 16:19:30
55.   rbj
Throwing error.

53 Oh, shoot, we were supposed to save some of those runs?

2006-09-13 16:19:38
56.   kdw
52 Yes.
2006-09-13 16:19:39
57.   RIYank
52 He did get an error.
2006-09-13 16:20:35
58.   3rd gen yankee fan
2006-09-13 16:21:47
59.   RIYank
A mere two runs, no problem.
2006-09-13 16:23:45
60.   rbj
No problem guys. Lidle isn't Moose. He's a number five pitcher, which for the Yankees means a .500 record, and right now he's 11-10 (I think that includes his Phillie stats).
2006-09-13 16:26:13
61.   yankeemonkey
60 Yes, that's his overall record...3-3 with the Yanks so far.
2006-09-13 16:26:21
62.   RIYank
22, baby.
2006-09-13 16:26:29
63.   yankeemonkey
The streak lives!!!!
2006-09-13 16:27:08
64.   Javi Javi
22 games, baby!
2006-09-13 16:27:53
65.   wsporter
The Captain's pretty good isn't he?
2006-09-13 16:29:44
66.   Alvaro Espinoza
I think I see A-rod salivating...
2006-09-13 16:29:55
67.   singledd
ARod predictions..
2006-09-13 16:30:08
68.   yankeemonkey
Bases chucked with no outs...I predict a GIDP from Alex here.
2006-09-13 16:30:36
69.   singledd
Double coming
2006-09-13 16:31:08
70.   Simone
Thank goodness for Upton's error! Or they have been booing A-Rod right now.
2006-09-13 16:31:10
71.   rilkefan
2006-09-13 16:31:18
72.   RIYank
Very clutch.

Also, Abreu reminding us that the Phils trade was definitely worth while.

2006-09-13 16:31:37
73.   yankeemonkey
Almost, no thanks to the DRay defense. I like being wrong :)
2006-09-13 16:31:52
74.   rilkefan
S o s l o w . . .
2006-09-13 16:32:07
75.   Simone
The Captain's hit streak is kind of cool.
2006-09-13 16:32:54
76.   yankeemonkey
Nice takeout slide by Alex to break up the DP
2006-09-13 16:33:07
77.   singledd
Quicksilver Giambi!
2006-09-13 16:33:23
78.   Simone
I can't believe Giambi was actually safe.

Nice catch by Crawford.

2006-09-13 16:33:27
79.   Javi Javi
I can't believe Giambi beat that out! do coritzone shots make you faster?
2006-09-13 16:33:34
80.   RIYank
Alex prevented the DP.

Goddam Crawford. Good try Robbie.
We're scoring a lot of runs with no hits, huh?

2006-09-13 16:33:40
81.   rbj
See, no need to panic. Yanks take the lead.
2006-09-13 16:33:56
82.   wsporter
Oh he's a speed demon. And no greenies, Wow.
2006-09-13 16:33:58
83.   singledd
Robby is a GREAT hitter
2006-09-13 16:34:29
84.   RIYank
79 Hah!
It was A-Rod's slide.

Here we go, time to devastate!

2006-09-13 16:35:22
85.   RIYank
Three runs on one hit.
Hitting the ball pretty well, though.
2006-09-13 16:36:46
86.   yankeemonkey
This is going to be one of them 14-10 affairs, innit...
2006-09-13 16:36:52
87.   Javi Javi
84 Thanks. That's the kind of detail you don't get from Sterling.
2006-09-13 16:40:40
88.   RIYank
Baldelli would be a good Yankee centerfielder.
Not that I dislike the current one.
And, I know, he's injury-prone.
2006-09-13 16:43:31
89.   RIYank
Easy. Well done, Cory.
2006-09-13 16:43:43
90.   rbj
Nice recovery inning, Corey.
Now go back to batting practice, hitters.
2006-09-13 16:44:23
91.   LI yankee
I still can't believe Crawford caught that Cano line drive. That was absolutely crushed to the left field corner.
2006-09-13 16:45:52
92.   randym77
91 Yeah, that was an impressive catch. They've got a solid outfield. It's kind of weird that they missed a couple of much easier catches yesterday.
2006-09-13 16:46:04
93.   RIYank
Goddam Crawford. It's like the D-Rays have four outfielders.
2006-09-13 16:51:29
94.   RIYank
Sorry, Speedy.
2006-09-13 16:55:39
95.   RIYank
Testing our infielders' reflexes.
2006-09-13 16:55:51
96.   rbj
Nice 1, 2, 3.
2006-09-13 16:56:02
97.   yankeemonkey
Woohoo, Alex for Gold Glove!
2006-09-13 16:57:47
98.   randym77
97 Not with 23 errors. :-P

Nice play on both ends there.

2006-09-13 17:03:03
99.   RIYank
2006-09-13 17:03:11
100.   rbj
Oh, nice A-Rod!
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2006-09-13 17:03:23
101.   BklynBmr
Now that was an A-Bomb! Go, Alex!
2006-09-13 17:03:34
102.   Simone
Nice job, A-Rod.
2006-09-13 17:03:41
103.   Alvaro Espinoza
If Sterling said: It is high, it is far, it is gonnnne.....

He actually got it right.

2006-09-13 17:04:04
104.   randym77
Holy crap. It looked like he hardly hit that one, and it went waaaaaaay out.
2006-09-13 17:04:22
105.   wsporter
Boy does A-Rod hit some shots the other way.
2006-09-13 17:04:30
106.   yankeemonkey
What an absolute MONSTER shot!
2006-09-13 17:04:46
107.   LI yankee
No one hits it to dead center like A-Rod.
2006-09-13 17:06:30
108.   rbj
Only 38 more to 500 for Alex? Wow.
2006-09-13 17:07:04
109.   BklynBmr
I'm surprised Giambi didn't get thrown out on that wild pitch. Feels like it's our night ;-)
2006-09-13 17:08:34
110.   RIYank
Roberto en fuego.
2006-09-13 17:08:52
111.   Simone
Nice home run, Robbie.
2006-09-13 17:09:01
112.   yankeemonkey
Woot! Another BOMB, for Robby!

Let's see Crawford catch that one, eh!

2006-09-13 17:09:21
113.   wsporter
He's pretty strong too. How did that get out?
2006-09-13 17:09:28
114.   monkeypants
Whoa, that was a weird looking swing for a homer...yeah, short porch.
2006-09-13 17:09:39
115.   bobtaco
Man, they are Murcer-izing the ball this inning...
2006-09-13 17:09:47
116.   mehmattski
Um, that was no where near the strike zone. Screw the VladZone... its the CanoZone!
2006-09-13 17:09:56
117.   BklynBmr
Man, is this lineup scary or what? I know, it's Tampa, but still...
2006-09-13 17:11:43
118.   randym77
113 Over the short porch. Crawford was definitely not getting it, since he plays LF. ;-)
2006-09-13 17:13:28
119.   LI yankee
I CANNOT wait till they face Boston pitching this weekend. Even though it won't really matter, it'll still be fun to watch.
2006-09-13 17:15:36
120.   wsporter
118 It looked like a can of corn swing and landed 15 - 20 rows back. It would have gone in most parks I think, maybe not RFK, but most. Kid strong like bull ;-).
2006-09-13 17:16:42
121.   RIYank
117 It's Tampa, but it's an URP. So this definitely counts.
2006-09-13 17:17:25
122.   rbj
With Liriano gone, does that make it the Twins the team you'd rather face in the ALDS (other choices: Tigers, WS)?
2006-09-13 17:17:25
123.   singledd
CanoZone? I had one of those for dinner.
2006-09-13 17:18:23
124.   RIYank
120 Rob's got the enormous batting avg. this year; maybe he develops home run power next year?
2006-09-13 17:19:40
125.   LI yankee
122 For me it's Tigers, Twins, then White Sox. That middle of the Sox order is scary.
2006-09-13 17:20:13
126.   RIYank
122 Now I'm pretty nearly indifferent. They all seem inferior, but certainly capable of knocking anyone off in a short series.
2006-09-13 17:21:08
127.   wsporter
124 He may just turn out to be exactly pretty scary with a stick in his hands. What a good looking young ball player. It's pretty cool to watch this develop.
2006-09-13 17:22:09
128.   randym77
Fasano has his whole hand painted white. Not just the fingernails, like Jorgie does. He paints his whole fingers.
2006-09-13 17:23:11
129.   RIYank
127 If only he walked more. That doesn't usually develop. Although I think Pujols did add a lot of walks after his first couple of years.
2006-09-13 17:25:12
130.   Simone
Lidle is laboring.
2006-09-13 17:26:00
131.   yankeemonkey
Hmmmm...Lidle's chances of making the postseason roster are quickly spinning toward the drain.
2006-09-13 17:26:25
132.   randym77
Lidle's not going to be in much longer. Bruney's warming as fast as he can.
2006-09-13 17:28:02
133.   Simone
That was a check swing.
2006-09-13 17:29:34
134.   randym77
Lidle got out of it, but he got lucky on that call.

I'm not too thrilled at the idea of either Lidle or Wright starting in the post-season. :-/

2006-09-13 17:30:25
135.   wsporter
129 He'll do it enough I think because he'll take pitches the other way. I think that may ultimately convince pitchers that they can only pitch him to certain locations and maybe make the plate a little smaller for them. I think? But if not walking quite enough develops as his only minor limitation as a hitter I'll live with it. I understand Marylin Monroe was lousy at math and I've managed to get over that so .... ;-)
2006-09-13 17:32:01
136.   neilymon
Just to get your guys' opinions. . .

Is the defensive discrepancy between Giambi and Wilson/Guiel/Phillips that much greater than that between Matsui and Melky?

What I'm getting at, essentially, is this:
How much worse would it be to put Giambi at 1B and Matsui in the DH spot for the playoffs, freeing up LF for Melky? I'm currently under the impression that Torre is leaning towards Matsui in LF and Giambi at DH. . .but then who's at first? Sheffield? Or is Giambi at first with Sheffield at DH?

Too many questions. BTW, did you guys catch that dig Giambi made on the Jeter throw-and-gun last night? I thought that was pretty decent for our boy Jason.

2006-09-13 17:34:14
137.   yankeemonkey
136 I think the idea is to put Giambi at 1B and have Sheff DH.
2006-09-13 17:35:39
138.   rbj
136 I'd prefer Giambi at 1B, Matsui DHing, Melky in left. Though it may wind up being Giambi at DH, Mastui LF, Shef DH, Melky LIDR.

How about Karstens for #4 starter. Only negative for him is that he's not a veteran, so Torre won't go for it.

2006-09-13 17:35:50
139.   yankz
Jeter 2 points behind Mauer
2006-09-13 17:38:46
140.   RIYank
This is where we miss Jorgie.
2006-09-13 17:39:09
141.   yankeemonkey
2006-09-13 17:39:24
142.   Simone
Too high, Sal. Wheww that was almost a home run. Say goodnight, Lidle.
2006-09-13 17:39:57
143.   randym77
Jeez. 50 stolen bases for Crawford. I guess he is fast.

And he cashes it in...

2006-09-13 17:40:28
144.   Simone
Crawford is a speed demon on the bases.

Night, Lidle.

2006-09-13 17:41:02
145.   rbj
I bet EDSP shows up tonight. After all, that lazy goldbricker had yesterday off.
2006-09-13 17:41:03
146.   BklynBmr
Lidle = Denny Nagle II
2006-09-13 17:41:32
147.   wsporter
Lidle just can't stand prosperity tonight. It's long relief time if we want this one I think.
2006-09-13 17:41:48
148.   BklynBmr
145 Plus, he hasn't throw all day today...
2006-09-13 17:43:26
149.   RIYank
Brian Bruney da man.
2006-09-13 17:44:02
150.   Simone
I appreciate Lidle's contributions in the playoff push. I thought obtaining him more than Abreu would push the Yankees ahead. He has been the Yankees best 5th starter better than Chacon and Ponson. All that being said, I just can't see how Lidle makes the playoff roster. He is just too inconsistent. Oh well, we'll know soon enough.
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2006-09-13 17:45:54
151.   RIYank
He da man.
2006-09-13 17:46:10
152.   yankeemonkey
I heart Brian Bruney
2006-09-13 17:46:42
153.   RIYank
And an Abreutiful catch.
2006-09-13 17:47:07
154.   rbj
150 Yeah. He's made some good starts, and then some abysmal starts. It's either Dr. Lidle or Mr. Go-Hide-the-Kids.
2006-09-13 17:47:09
155.   C2Coke
150 I think we were lucky to get a good 5th starter for a change. Cashman and Torre probably didn't plan to use him in the playoffs anyway. But to have him help the Yankees to get to the playoffs was big no matter what.

Bruney is securing his spot on the team fast.

2006-09-13 17:47:49
156.   wsporter
I thought he was scared if the wall. Can't believe everything you read I guess.
2006-09-13 17:49:39
157.   monkeypants
150 Well, in a normal universe, one would not carry a fifth starter on the play off roster. But then, Torre seems to like having a long relief/starter guy. So, do you put Lidle in the BP or Wright? Or neither.

Also, Villone has been basically awful the last month or two. Is he shot? If so, you will probably have a space for Lidle or whomever.

2006-09-13 17:51:06
158.   BklynBmr
Heaven forbid Mo goes down this season, but if he does, I know who my closer is. The same guy I want next to me in bar fight: Brian 'The Enforcer' Bruney.
2006-09-13 17:51:41
159.   yankeemonkey
I don't see Villone not making the least for now...he does seem shot and I'd rather they took someone like Karstens instead. Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens...
2006-09-13 17:52:00
160.   randym77
That catch wasn't near the wall. He ended up at the wall, but the ball wasn't near the wall when he caught it.

Torre said the reason Abreu shies away from the wall is that in Philly, there's a wire along the wall that tangles fielders' hands and can injure them. He thinks Abreu will get over it eventually.

2006-09-13 17:52:10
161.   neilymon
Bobby Abreu:


after pitch

after pitch

after pitch.

2006-09-13 17:55:17
162.   yankeemonkey
Effin' URP...
2006-09-13 17:57:19
163.   rbj
Take that, shift.
2006-09-13 17:57:57
164.   BklynBmr
Good to see Jason gettin' his groove back...
2006-09-13 17:58:28
165.   monkeypants
159 I kinda forgot about Karstens. Scary flyball ratio, especially in the Homer Dome. But then, middle relief is always a little scary on just about any team.
2006-09-13 17:58:48
166.   yankeemonkey
Exit Cy URP, enter ?? from the crappy DRay pen...
2006-09-13 18:02:43
167.   3rd gen yankee fan
Bedard is 2-hittin' the Sux through 7. Mr. MVP is 0-3 today.
2006-09-13 18:04:16
168.   JeremyM
167 Jeter would be 0-3 in that lineup as well. Right?
2006-09-13 18:06:04
169.   3rd gen yankee fan
168 That's what Big Babi sez. (props to mikeplugh)
2006-09-13 18:06:50
170.   RIYank
167 And Wakefield's return was not stellar. 4 ER in 5 innings.
2006-09-13 18:07:31
171.   wsporter
167 Yeah I understand Fat Papi is very clutch on the golf course. I can't wait till he gets a chance to prove it the first week of October.
2006-09-13 18:09:26
172.   RIYank
Geez, poor Papi. Come on, he apologized profusely and abjectly today. You'd be frustrated too and a lot of guys would say something stupid after watching their team implode around his shoulders.
2006-09-13 18:10:19
173.   3rd gen yankee fan
Oh nooooo, wait, he hadn't "mentioned Jeter at all." See Uhhh, right.
2006-09-13 18:10:26
174.   wsporter
I suppose I'm only the millionth person to ask but how the hell did the D-backs let this guy go?
2006-09-13 18:11:39
175.   mikeplugh
169 Thanks for the footnote. ;)

How good is Bruney? I like him more every outing.

My fantasy team finished ahead of 2nd place by 35 games, but I'm in a heated battle this week after my 1st round bye. I'm enjoying the Yankees recent success, but my mixed feelings about possibly being booted from the playoffs early after a dominant season have me edgy.

2006-09-13 18:12:24
176.   3rd gen yankee fan
172 You're right, those out of character comments I'm sure were due to frustration. Still I think maybe he should have let it slide with the media, cause I don't know what he was saying today, that he didn't mention Jeter. Doesn't make sense.
2006-09-13 18:12:34
177.   singledd
If Papi gets hot, maybe the Sox can hold onto 2nd place. Can we give him an award for that?
2006-09-13 18:13:58
178.   mikeplugh
172 I believe that Papi is a good guy, and that those comments were out of character, but his apology today has as much to do with trying to salvage his image as anything else. He has been taking a worse beating in the papers than the Red Sox have on the field.
2006-09-13 18:14:58
179.   yankeemonkey
WTF? I thought it was the 7th inning, then I look up and it's still in the 6th...Man, this game is just dragging along tonight...
2006-09-13 18:15:13
180.   JeremyM
Gamecenter says Matui's flyout was to "deep left"? Is that accurate? And if so, how deep? Thanks.
2006-09-13 18:15:41
181.   JeremyM
PH for Fasano here, that's why Nieves is on the team.
2006-09-13 18:16:04
182.   LI yankee
Did I just see the wave at Yankee Stadium?
2006-09-13 18:16:32
183.   monkeypants
180 Not that deep, but a pretty sharply hit liner with top spin--the LF went back and had to reach out for it.
2006-09-13 18:16:56
184.   yankeemonkey
180 Medium deep left. Crawford didn't have to go full out for it or anything.
2006-09-13 18:17:14
185.   Simone
Detroit is doing all it can to miss the playoffs. Insane.
2006-09-13 18:18:18
186.   Simone
How was that a strike?
2006-09-13 18:19:31
187.   yankeemonkey
185 Detroit's vaunted young pitching sure is letting them down lately...
2006-09-13 18:20:13
188.   JeremyM
185 If Texas handn't ran the bases like the three stooges last night, they'd be in even deeper. They had 3 guys thrown out by the leftfielder Monroe.
2006-09-13 18:20:19
189.   RIYank
179 I thought it was the seventh, too.
So Cory came out after four, right?
2006-09-13 18:21:39
190.   yankeemonkey
189 Yah...4.1 I think
2006-09-13 18:22:32
191.   C2Coke
I thought yesterday's game was going to be long, but it was done soon after 10. Today is the opposite.
2006-09-13 18:23:37
192.   RIYank
Hm, which Philadelphian has the best arm: Sal, Bobby, Cory?
2006-09-13 18:25:17
193.   RIYank
Hm, so who gets the win? IF we hold on, that is. I guess it almost has to be Bruney.
2006-09-13 18:25:46
194.   singledd
You think this game is long? Imagine being a Red Sox fan, hoping they can eek out 5 hits.
2006-09-13 18:26:05
195.   Eirias
You know what? I still think that when the Sox had Johnny Damon, they should have somehow played him in left field. Then they could have called it the "Green Damonster."
2006-09-13 18:26:24
196.   3rd gen yankee fan
Myers! Haven't seen him in a while.
2006-09-13 18:26:59
197.   yankeemonkey
I think Bruney gets the win, he was the first man out in relief.

Wow, Crawford with a GIDP! 2 outs with one pitch...Myers rocks!

2006-09-13 18:27:18
198.   C2Coke
192 Whoever's arm it is, the Yankees own it.

Hey! Myers is still pitching for this team.

2006-09-13 18:27:47
199.   LI yankee
Crawford looked like he was jogging. Jeez that man is fast.
2006-09-13 18:28:15
200.   yankeemonkey
EDSP lurking....
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2006-09-13 18:28:15
201.   3rd gen yankee fan
Myers knows his schtuff. He's a pleasure to watch.
2006-09-13 18:29:48
202.   yankeemonkey
You've jinxed him!
2006-09-13 18:30:12
203.   randym77
And here comes EDSP...
2006-09-13 18:30:26
204.   RIYank
Heeeeere's Scotty!
2006-09-13 18:30:41
205.   C2Coke
194 Long in a sense that's not particularly entertaining. Am I the only one who thinks that way? I almost (please note the word almost) feel bad for the Red Sox. That 5 games with the Sox in August seems like a decade ago for us and for the Sox in two very different ways. Guess we have another chance to refresh the memory...more or less.
2006-09-13 18:30:48
206.   mikeplugh
My boy EDSP won the International racquetball championship yesterday by outlasting Antonio Salvatore Giovanni of Italy in a 5 set, 5 overtime, marathon.

7-5, 5-7, 11-9, 29-31, 115-113

He helped the Amish raise a barn shortly thereafter. He's the man!!!

2006-09-13 18:32:05
207.   3rd gen yankee fan
202 Screw it I don't know why I bother posting.
2006-09-13 18:33:36
208.   RIYank
206 No, Brian Bruney is da man. 149 151
2006-09-13 18:34:38
209.   JeremyM
206 By the way, that post on you hanging with Proctor has to be one of the funniest things I've ever read. I had to shut it down because I was reading it at work. Enjoyed the javelin part the most!
2006-09-13 18:34:45
210.   pistolpete
Whew, got away with one there Scotty. Wiggington was a tad eager.
2006-09-13 18:35:05
211.   C2Coke
208 And he really has that killer look.
2006-09-13 18:35:16
212.   LI yankee
209 Yeah that was pure gold
2006-09-13 18:35:18
213.   RIYank
This was actually a very plausible Scotty situation. Close game, etc. (I understand the point is that he's already been used so much, I get that. I'm just sayin'.)

Also, I can't believe we're getting out-hit 10-5. Amazing. I love baseball.

2006-09-13 18:35:37
214.   mikeplugh
EDSP's victory celebration for that strikeout will be 10 rounds of high fives in the dugout, followed by mixing margueritas in the post-game using a manual cocktail shaker.
2006-09-13 18:37:03
215.   mikeplugh
209 Thanks. Imagine how funny it was while it was happening. I've never eaten so many clams in one sitting. The guy is a genius!!


2006-09-13 18:37:21
216.   JeremyM
Oh, actually I love him using the "traditional" turn signals the most.

And you're right RIYanks, I have no problem with him being used here.

2006-09-13 18:37:36
217.   RIYank
Ortiz pops up in the ninth, Sox now down to their last out. Whoa, that was fast; Pena pops out too. Shut-out.

This coming series isn't going to be a very good series. It will still be fun for me, but not as much fun as I was expecting.

2006-09-13 18:39:05
218.   Simone
That is why you hustle with the given out. Nice job, Captain.
2006-09-13 18:39:31
219.   mikeplugh
Jeter is soooooo lucky he hits in this lineup, because that error would never have happened if he was on the Red Sox.
2006-09-13 18:39:37
220.   LI yankee
Did they give Jeter a hit?
2006-09-13 18:40:01
221.   Simone
2006-09-13 18:40:05
222.   C2Coke
That was a fast base stolen.
2006-09-13 18:40:22
223.   mikeplugh
Plus, the stolen base was a result of the D-Rays fear of Melky Cabrera 6 batters away.
2006-09-13 18:40:39
224.   wsporter
The guy is a clinic on how to play. Jeter = MVP
2006-09-13 18:40:48
225.   3rd gen yankee fan
Ortiz would have stolen home from first in the Sux lineup though.
2006-09-13 18:40:52
226.   RIYank
No, he reached on error.
So Jeter actually loses ground to Mauer today, damitol.
2006-09-13 18:40:56
227.   C2Coke
220 No, I think that was an error.
2006-09-13 18:42:42
228.   RIYank
Yeah, but no RBI... and WHERE THE HELL IS BIN LADEN???
2006-09-13 18:42:55
229.   pistolpete
214 I heard Proctor churns his own butter on the back of the team bus. Last trip to Baltimore, Bowa brought the warm crescent rolls...
2006-09-13 18:43:07
230.   C2Coke
It feels good to see Arod back after a long season.
2006-09-13 18:43:45
231.   wsporter
Too hard; A-Rod looks locked in. Hope he stays that way.
2006-09-13 18:44:29
232.   C2Coke
219 Are you serious?
2006-09-13 18:45:10
233.   C2Coke
In 232, I obviously meant 229.
2006-09-13 18:45:11
234.   pistolpete
BTW, a big 'F You' goes out to Joe Borowski for costing my fantasy SP Scott Olsen a win tonight against the Mets.

Olsen went 8 strong, 3ER, 2BB and 3K's. Borowski blew it last night as well - Girardi obviously wants that Cub job.

2006-09-13 18:45:16
235.   David
230 Yes. ARod's full season is likely to be .295 - .300, 35 - 40 HR's and 110 - 120 RBIs. Not bad for a "terrible" season.
2006-09-13 18:46:01
236.   JeremyM
228 Bin Laden is dancing in the streets right now, since Whitney left Bobby. His feelings for her are revealed, and a week or so later the other shoe drops.
2006-09-13 18:46:07
237.   pistolpete
233 I take it you haven't read COH's Proctor 'interview'..?


2006-09-13 18:46:09
238.   mikeplugh
229 That's the funniest one I've heard so far!!!
2006-09-13 18:47:19
239.   LI yankee
I would love to see Jeter try to steal home one time. That could end badly though...
2006-09-13 18:47:37
240.   yankeemonkey
Stupid effin' Marlins...
2006-09-13 18:47:52
241.   JeremyM
Just go here and scroll down, it's worth the trip:
2006-09-13 18:48:27
242.   Simone
Does anyone know what Jim Kaat will doing now he isn't broadcasting the Yankees any more?
2006-09-13 18:49:06
243.   yankeemonkey
Finally! WTG Robby!
2006-09-13 18:49:25
244.   pistolpete
234 Heh, it's okay - Cano (also on my FB team) makes it up to me with that hit.
2006-09-13 18:49:35
245.   RIYank
Ohhhhhh Robbie!

Man oh man. I'm feeling so good about the Yankees' future. I don't remember when I've felt so optimistic.

2006-09-13 18:49:50
246.   wsporter
RoBBY!!!!! You just have to love watching that kid.
2006-09-13 18:49:52
247.   3rd gen yankee fan
woo hoo hoo!
2006-09-13 18:50:10
248.   rsmith51
How many runs a game to get to 1000? I was thinking it was like 9-10 a game.
2006-09-13 18:50:11
249.   C2Coke
235 I didn't mean that he wasn't producing since he's had better numbers than most players, but it's nice to see back to being relaxed on the plate rather than looking nervous and tight. Notice how he's laughing and smiling a lot more now?

Robbie rocks!

2006-09-13 18:50:18
250.   singledd
Final box score for Boston: 0-2-2
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2006-09-13 18:51:46
251.   C2Coke
237, 241 I realized that, so I am working on the reading right this moment. Thanks.
2006-09-13 18:52:27
252.   pistolpete
250 Man, can we get Bedard and drop Lidle?
2006-09-13 18:54:49
253.   singledd
Yanks RS now is 829 with 18 games left.
We need 9.5 runs/game for 1000
2006-09-13 18:54:51
254.   pistolpete
Good God, Kaat - it's MISS-ELLY, not MICH-ELLY...
2006-09-13 18:57:09
255.   LI yankee
MelkSui gets fooled by the splitter
2006-09-13 18:57:25
256.   RIYank
According to Baseball Prospectus, the Yankees now have one chance in a million of being the AL Wildcard team.
2006-09-13 18:59:12
257.   nemecizer
Sox 11 games down and 12 in the loss column after today's loss. Sox have 17 games left to play in the season.

I know this is "old" news on this threat and that everyone knows this, but I just really, really, really fucking enjoy typing it :)

2006-09-13 18:59:28
258.   nemecizer
257 That's "thread"
2006-09-13 18:59:45
259.   bballman92192
ha ha, i think they were taking about the sox
2006-09-13 19:00:33
260.   C2Coke
237, 241, and mikeplugh, that piece is especially funny because EDSP is pitching at the same time as I read it.
2006-09-13 19:01:13
261.   seamus
my fantasy team yankees are 4 for 9 with 3 runs and 6 RBIs. Hope my other guys are doing well.
2006-09-13 19:01:26
262.   RIYank
Was that an instant replay???
2006-09-13 19:01:47
263.   bballman92192
ha ha, i think they were taking about the sox
2006-09-13 19:02:19
264.   bballman92192
wtf is up with my comp lol
2006-09-13 19:02:42
265.   LI yankee
I'd like to see Giambi and Randy pull those off
2006-09-13 19:02:50
266.   bballman92192
sry everone this is my first time posting
2006-09-13 19:03:06
267.   rsmith51
Good thing Andy was at 1b that inning.
2006-09-13 19:03:21
268.   RIYank
Scotty Proctor, ladies and gentlemen! He pitches, he fields, he does it all!
2006-09-13 19:03:44
269.   bballman92192
what do you guys think is melkys future with the yanks?
2006-09-13 19:03:48
270.   pistolpete
261 Giambi, Matsui and Cano? Heh, me too.
2006-09-13 19:04:38
271.   pistolpete
268 And I think I saw someone hand him a dumbbell as he came into the dugout! :-O
2006-09-13 19:05:04
272.   JeremyM
The cool thing about Proctor is he doesn't use a rosen bag, he's actually crushing the green tea leaves for Torre to use in his tea bags between pitches.

That's the best I can do, I bow to the genius of mike.

2006-09-13 19:05:20
273.   RIYank
Welcome aboard, bballman.
2006-09-13 19:05:22
274.   bballman92192
i heard wang will pitch game one in the playoffs
2006-09-13 19:06:05
275.   JeremyM
266 Welcome aboard.
2006-09-13 19:06:39
276.   bballman92192
thanks guys, do you guys do this every game?
2006-09-13 19:06:56
277.   seamus
270 Giambi, Cano, and Damon. close.
2006-09-13 19:07:44
278.   JeremyM
276 All 162 of them, and hopefully at least 11 more next month.
2006-09-13 19:07:46
279.   seamus
[270} makes up for my 0-6 from Figgins and Guerrero in LA today.
2006-09-13 19:09:14
280.   singledd
Liriano might be looking at Tommy John surgery. That would be a tough break for the kid.
2006-09-13 19:09:16
281.   bballman92192
its kind of annoying you have to refresh the page every like two seconds to see new posts
2006-09-13 19:10:04
282.   pistolpete
281 That's the way it is with any web site. Unless we all go into a chat room, which would be kinda fun.
2006-09-13 19:10:30
283.   bballman92192
its kind of annoying you have to refresh the page every like two seconds to see new posts
2006-09-13 19:11:08
284.   bballman92192
o, how do you do that?
2006-09-13 19:11:54
285.   RIYank
Not a good evening for the Captain. Lost a point or two to the hitless Mauer. Doesn't seem fair.
2006-09-13 19:12:01
286.   LI yankee
we could probably pull off a huge AIM chat session
2006-09-13 19:12:05
287.   singledd
276 No... only day games or night games.
2006-09-13 19:12:30
288.   seamus
281 well, there are blogs that update dynamically. But that involves some serious stuff.
2006-09-13 19:12:41
289.   bballman92192
that would work though
2006-09-13 19:13:38
290.   JeremyM
280 My first reaction to Liriano going down was kind of a sigh of relief, I won't lie. I'm very worried about meeting the Twins in the first round.
Seconds later I reconsidered, number one, you don't like to win that way. Number two, he's a stud and it's good to have those kinds of guys playing the game. Number three, I'd like the Yanks to beat the Twins at their best if they do match-up. As much as losing sucks, that's the way it should be, you beat their best. But you can't really hang your head if they do match-up and feel bad if the Yanks win without facing him either.
2006-09-13 19:13:48
291.   rsmith51
If you don't like using your mouse, you can always hit F5.
2006-09-13 19:13:55
292.   C2Coke
280 I didn't know it was that serious. For a while, it almost seemed like he was coming back very soon. I hope he will be ok.

282 Are you making subtle hints to Alex?

bballman, welcome, you will enjoy it here. There are many reasons why we are all here everyday and that we feel a little lost if there was no new game threads on a game day.

2006-09-13 19:15:44
293.   Zack
Yeah, the bb comments section is like a museum of dedicated fans with nothing better to do, and man are we proud of it! I think this is going on year three for me, but it might only be two, I guess thats what a baseabll season of posting does to you...

Ahh, good to see EDSP is "resting" his arm for the playoffs!

2006-09-13 19:15:51
294.   markp
Why bother-I can hit the refresh button without much strain, and the baseball chat is, for the most past, free of the ugly stuff found in a great many other places on the web.
2006-09-13 19:15:55
295.   JeremyM
What, Dotel can't protect a 4-run lead...oh, wait.
2006-09-13 19:15:57
296.   RIYank
Dang, Meat, you smokin.

I'm just thinking about Bruney, Farnsworth, Mo finishing games for us in the playoffs. Nice.
(I'd be thinking about adding a rested Scott Proctor, but my imagination isn't that good.)

2006-09-13 19:15:58
297.   C2Coke
287 And sometimes, twice a day.

284 If you were asking for the number link, put the number inside brackets [].

2006-09-13 19:16:14
298.   Zack
And who is this guy on the mound and what did he do with Farnsworth?
2006-09-13 19:16:39
299.   singledd
Who wants to tell bballman about the new-guy-buys-everyone-a-drink rule?
2006-09-13 19:17:16
300.   Yu-Hsing Chen
wo, struck out two on 6 pitches.
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2006-09-13 19:17:38
301.   Zack
[299} and Fasano a canoli...
2006-09-13 19:17:41
302.   pistolpete
286 I can't start a group chat, but I'd join.. Maybe we can test something out next game...?
2006-09-13 19:17:48
303.   bballman92192
do you guys think dotel is ever going to be what he used to be?
2006-09-13 19:17:49
304.   Yu-Hsing Chen
and then gives up a double, classic Farnsy... strike out or long ball
2006-09-13 19:17:56
305.   LI yankee
298 Don't worry he just arrived
2006-09-13 19:18:38
306.   pistolpete
Damn it why did I bench Crawford tonight?!!!
2006-09-13 19:19:33
307.   RIYank
El numero magico es siete!
2006-09-13 19:20:27
308.   C2Coke
Wow, 32 games above .500, and all these without Mo. Bruney's first win.

That said, I miss Mo big time.

2006-09-13 19:20:32
309.   LI yankee
5 game win streak! How many of those have we had?
2006-09-13 19:20:52
310.   markp
My reaction to Liriano going down is indifference. There wasn't any sympathy from Twins (or Red Sox or anybody else's) fans when Matsui and Sheff got hurt, and wasn't his propensity for injury why the Twins got him in the first place?
2006-09-13 19:20:54
311.   pistolpete
Someone test this out for me - use AIM and go to 'bronxbanter' (no quotes)
2006-09-13 19:21:48
312.   JeremyM
The Yanks can clinch the division against Boston this weekend. If they win or Boston loses tomorrow, they'd need to take 3 of 4. Otherwise, if they sweep it's theirs. Unreal.
2006-09-13 19:22:00
313.   RIYank
303 Dotel: too early to tell.
When he was pitching yesterday everyone was feeling kind of depressed about it, but Jim Kaat's point about this being in effect Dotel's "spring training dead arm" period, mentioned by Cliff in the entry before this one, seems pretty plausible. So maybe he'll be good in a couple of weeks. Which would be very, very good, of course.
2006-09-13 19:22:13
314.   C2Coke
309 Well...we'll see tomorrow. It's that 6 we've been allergic to, damn, I will shut up now.
2006-09-13 19:24:16
315.   RIYank
Jeremy, that's why I've been following the Magic Number so closely. I was hoping we'd get it down to six by the Sox series; now that looks likely.

Liriano: I can't help it, I just do feel relieved. But I feel terrible for him, too, and for the Twinks and their fans.

2006-09-13 19:24:45
316.   C2Coke
313 I just couldn't figure out why he was benched for so long. The only reasonable explanation is that he wasn't fully recovered.
2006-09-13 19:28:49
317.   RIYank
Bruney did get the win.
I think it's discretion of the official scorer, but that was pretty clear.
2006-09-13 19:31:32
318.   yankeemonkey
Very nice job by the relief corps tonight - 5 scoreless and only a couple of hits.
2006-09-13 19:38:07
319.   BklynBmr
315 I watched the Twins game this morning (West Coast time) and felt the same way regarding Liriano. That sucks for him, the team and the fans. Not sure how much it alters the race since they've done pretty well without him, but jeez — you have to think with him and Santana on their game right now, the Tigers are the Wild Card.

Bruney for Secretary of Defense! This guy has to make the PS roster — at the expense of, maybe, Villone, at least right now.

2006-09-13 19:43:44
320.   3rd gen yankee fan
312 Is that beautiful? Oh my grandparents will dance in heaven.
2006-09-13 19:47:13
321.   seamus
Liriano is what made the Twins a real postseason threat. Losing him really hurts their chances of advancing in the postseason.
2006-09-13 19:48:06
322.   RIYank
319 Okay, I just read Batgirl's entry on Liriano and now I'm ashamed of feeling relieved.

2006-09-13 19:49:17
323.   BklynBmr
Pedro pops off against The Babe, goes on the DL. Papi shoots his mouth against The Cap, and can't buy a hit. Some things never change...
2006-09-13 20:07:11
324.   markp
Bruney's K/9 are over 9 in his minor and major league careers and he's still a kid. How did this kid make it to the Yankees in the middle of the baseball season?
2006-09-13 20:29:02
325.   BklynBmr
324 In some small way, Colangelo would be getting his, or at least I would like to think so. How sweet would it be if Bruney played a key role in Yankees post season success?
2006-09-14 13:43:27
326.   bballman92192
do you guys think dotel is ever going to be what he used to be?

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