Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Biding Time
2006-09-09 22:12
by Cliff Corcoran
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The Yankees struggled against Adam Loewen again yesterday afternoon. Fortunately the Orioles had even more trouble with Chien-Ming Wang, who allowed just one seventh-inning run in 7 1/3 innings on his way to his major-league leading 17th win.

For their part, the Yanks got two off Loewen in the fifth when Kevin Thompson drew a one-out walk, Nick Green singled, Johnny Damon singled Thompson home, and Melky Cabrera plated Green with a sac fly. Loewen was pulled after throwing 113 pitches over seven innings and the Yanks picked up an insurance run against displaced starter Rodrigo Lopez when Damon lead off with a double, Melky Cabrera bunted him over, and Derek Jeter singled him home.

That third run proved to be the difference as, with Mariano Rivera still on the shelf, Joe Torre turned to Kyle Farnsworth to protect a two-run lead in the ninth. Farnsworth did so by striking out Jay Gibbons, giving up a solo home run to Kevin Millar on a jock-high first-pitch fastball down the middle, then getting the final two outs on six pitches. Yanks win, 3-2.

The absence of Rivera highlights the far more significant story for the Yankees right now, which is the need for the team to get healthy. There's no real time table for Rivera's return from a muscle strain in his right forearm, though he plans to throw on flat ground today, just as he did on Friday, and Joe Torre claims he's improving. Jason Giambi received yet another cortisone shot in his left wrist yesterday and won't play until the Yankees return to the Bronx on Tuesday. Mike Mussina, who would be on regular rest today, has also been pushed back to Tuesday due to right shoulder soreness, this following his first start after being activated from the DL due to a groin pull. Alex Rodriguez, meanwhile, has come down with a stomach flu for the second time in Baltimore this season, and everyone else just needs some rest.

The good news is that the Yankees' lead in the East continues to grow as the Red Sox managed to lose a 12-inning game to the Royals by a score of 10-4 last night, dropping to ten games back. The Yankees win over the O's, meanwhile, officially eliminated Baltimore from the division race. Oh, and Matsui went 1 for 3 with a double and a pair of walks in the Thunder's 4-3 loss to Portland.

Today the Yanks send Jaret Wright to the mound in Mussina's place while the O's counter with September call-up Hayden Penn. Wright hasn't pitched at all since hurling 6 1/3 strong innings against the Tigers on August 30th. The 21-year-old Penn, meanwhile, was excellent in triple-A this year, but didn't make it out of the first inning against Oakland a week ago in his only major league appearance this year. Last year he came up straight from double-A to make eight starts for the O's, four of them during interleague, only to walk more than he struck out and post a 6.34 ERA.

Comments (137)
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2006-09-10 05:13:39
1.   mikeplugh
Now that Trenton has been eliminated, does Matsui go directly to Tampa to workout and meet the team when they play the DRays?
2006-09-10 05:18:57
2.   randym77
LoHud says Matsui will join the team either today or tomorrow.

With Giambi on the shelf, Joe needs a DH.

2006-09-10 05:36:22
3.   Jim Dean
Sorry guys. Operation Worm Burner crashed in flames. I tried to be stealthy but the section lord saw me after the first inning and told me to take the signs down. I tried again after the third inning but got caught again and he threatened to have me thrown out.

Any case, great design Pete, idea Sliced, marketing Bama, and everyone's input. Hopefully someone else tries in the Bronx.

It was a fun game. But man there's so little life at the Yard - it's like half the stadium was asleep. I guess all these years of Angelos beating the fans down. Or maybe B'more is just a more staid town.

2006-09-10 07:10:20
4.   nemecizer
3 Jim clue us in, what was the plan? I have tickets with my brothers to the Red Sox on Saturday in the Bronx.
2006-09-10 07:16:44
5.   Sliced Bread
Man, here's hoping Wright can repeat his last performance. I have a feeling his superior stuff, and his postseason experience have Joe tilting toward Wright over Lidle as a postseason starter.

3 Great effort! We'll get 'em up in the Bronx somehow.

4 The plan was to hang up a poster of a worm for every ground ball out (worm burner, get it?) Wang accumulated. Yesterday there would have been 16 worms a hangin'. Bummer. I imagine the Yankees Stadium security types would be more lax about such a show of support for Mr. Wang.

2006-09-10 08:17:46
6.   baileywalk
Was Penn the kid that Giambi hit a mammoth blast off of in the first inning of a game last year? I remember it cleared the scoreboard and bounced into the street. (I think it was either Penn or John Maine -- or maybe it was just some other young kid.)

Anyway, if the Yankees don't at least marginally get to Penn today, does it confirm the theory that they can't hit young pitchers they haven't seen too many times?

2006-09-10 08:25:17
7.   Ron Burgundy
Will A-Rod be available today?
2006-09-10 08:45:54
8.   Jim Dean
4 Oh, we were just going to post 'worm burners' rather than K's for Wang. I had the right seats but the wrong stadium.

Here were the printouts, courtesy of pistolpete and Bronx Banter critiques, in case any one else wants to give it a try:

2006-09-10 09:14:43
9.   Sliced Bread
7 Hopefully. We should find out in a few minutes.

5 By "superior stuff" I mean better than Lidle. I guess it will come down to who Joe thinks will be less likely to get smacked around in the playoffs, Lidle or Wright. Toss a coin, and hope for the best.

2006-09-10 09:20:13
10.   pistolpete
9 I say keep have Lidle and Wright be ready to go for that 4th spot come the playoffs - alternate their starts and bring in the other should one get smacked around.

If they both get smacked around, well, I hadn't thought that through. ;-)

2006-09-10 09:24:17
11.   rbj
Props on the attempt, Jim Dean. Figures that the Angelos' owned team has no sense of humor.
2006-09-10 09:24:41
12.   Sliced Bread
10 Wright is better and has more experience than Lidle out of the bullpen. If Wright were to get smacked around early in a Game 4, I think we'd see Villone get the ball before Lidle, but who knows? I know I brought it up, but I'd rather not think about either of those guys in a Game 4 right now.
2006-09-10 09:30:16
13.   randym77
It's still house money day...

Johnny Damon DH
Melky Cabrera LF
Derek Jeter SS
Bobby Abreu RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Bernie Williams CF
Aaron Guiel 1B
Sal Fasano C
Nick Green 3B

2006-09-10 09:40:09
14.   LI yankee
Look at this injury report and the player's resepective New York salaries

·Alex Rodriguez, 3B (Day-To-Day) $16 million
·Jason Giambi, 1B (Day-To-Day) $20 million
·Mike Mussina, SP (Day-To-Day) $19 million
·Gary Sheffield, RF (15-Day DL) $11 million
·Hideki Matsui, LF (15-Day DL) $13 million
·Mariano Rivera, RP (Out) $10 million
Carl Pavano (60-Day DL) $8 million

That's $97 million worth of players injured. And the Red Sox were complaining...

2006-09-10 09:44:09
15.   LI yankee
14 If you include both Sturtze and Cairo in that, it's about an even $100 million.
2006-09-10 09:44:19
16.   pistolpete
I don't mind the house money lineups so much - especially what with Green did in the field yesterday...
2006-09-10 09:55:40
17.   randym77
Yeah, the Orioles beat our "A" lineup. Why not put the scrubs in? Maybe they'll have some beginners' luck.

And as that injury list shows, we are beat up. Damon DHing two days in a row. His bad foot acting up?

Speaking of Nick Green...I was going through some old games on my DVR, clearing space, and found a Tampa-NYY game from April. When Nick was playing for the D-Rays. We lost in the 10th inning, and Nick Green was a big part of it. He drew a walk that moved a runner over (who eventually scored the go-ahead run), then he scored an insurance run. Played good D, too.

However, Nick is possibly the worst baserunner I have ever seen. That play a few days ago when he went too early and got thrown out by a mile...that wasn't a fluke. If Joe even thinks about using him as a pinch-runner again, someone stop him. "Wheels" Wright would be better.

2006-09-10 10:27:34
18.   Peter
Maybe a house money lineup is the antedote to the URP.
2006-09-10 10:41:01
19.   randym77
18 You know, I've often thought that. Perhaps because the kids and castoffs are more likely to go for contact instead of homers.

I wonder if Joe would ever consider starting KT in CF? Bernie in CF with Wang on the mound is one thing. With Wright on the mound... o_O

2006-09-10 10:50:49
20.   singledd
As our AAA team takes on the O's, the only issue in this game is seeing if Jetes and Robby can up their averages. How about a forum debate today.

I'm for a discussion of Torre... pros and cons in what I think has been a great year for him, and also PS issues we need to think about.

Any ideas? Should Torre 1006 be todays thread?

2006-09-10 10:51:20
21.   yankz
Jeter: 20 game hit streak, now at .346.
2006-09-10 10:52:33
22.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
When's the friggin game gonna start. 15 minutes late by my count.

Is the umpiring crew stuck in line at Boog's BBQ?

2006-09-10 10:54:57
23.   David

1. I think the Yankees may need home field advantage in the playoffs, so these games are important.

2. I was pleased (and surprised) that Baseball Tonight last night showed Ortiz making a key out and showed Jeter driving in a key RBI.

2006-09-10 10:55:10
24.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Ah, shouold've known, CBS sportsline dude slept in or something.
2006-09-10 10:57:43
25.   rbj
2006-09-10 10:58:22
26.   efb
Wow, Sal's Pals must be happy. That was a nice poke.
2006-09-10 10:58:24
27.   Ron Burgundy
Ron Jeremy hits a 3-Run Jack!
2006-09-10 10:58:38
28.   LI yankee
Fasano don't ya know!!
2006-09-10 10:58:56
29.   randym77
LOL! Somehow, I'd never have expected that...
2006-09-10 10:59:28
30.   rbj
20 I don't mind if the Tigers have homefield in the ALCS (if the Yanks meet them) as Comerica is spacious and Unit gives up lots of deep flies, and if Wang is off there could be lots of flies too.
2006-09-10 11:00:20
31.   yankz
No F'ing way!!
2006-09-10 11:02:03
32.   singledd
23 Barring a radical change in the standings, we have:
The ALDS HFA (Home field advantage) against the WC
The WS HFA (thanks to the All-Star fame)
And will have the ALCS HFA EXCEPT if the Tigers are in it.

Yes, winning is good and we could overtake the Tigers... but todays game is gonna be a sleeper (and Sal Zappa has given us a nice lead).

2006-09-10 11:02:38
33.   Mattpat11
Thats why I'm proudly one of Sal's Pals.
2006-09-10 11:04:06
34.   Levy2020
In this house money lineup, Johnny Damon has the most homeruns.

Damon has 22. Second highest is Jeter with 12. Then Bernie with 11.

2006-09-10 11:08:00
35.   singledd
No Love/Hate for Torre today?
2006-09-10 11:08:02
36.   sabernar
19 What is Wright's GB/FB ratio? He has only let up 6 HR in 117 IP this year, which is pretty damn good.
2006-09-10 11:10:30
37.   rbj
Good to see Wright go right after the O's following the offense posting a 3 spot.
2006-09-10 11:11:23
38.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
32 check the standings. We're at .600, the Tigers are at .601. We're only a 1/2 back of them, but we actually have 1 less loss than they do.

It won't take a "radical" change in the standings for us to take home field thru-out.

2006-09-10 11:11:42
39.   efb
Calculating play-off matchups by referring to Baseball Prospectus ( note that the expected number of wins are as follows:

1. Yankees - 97.8
2. Tigers - 97.4
3. Twins - 93.5
4. White Sox - 92.1 (would not qualify)
5. Athletics - 91.0

This suggests that the most likely scenario is for the Yankees to capture Home Field. However, one can see it is (a) probably too close to call, and (b) realize that these projections do not take into account injuries, who is pitching well lately, etc. but simply are a probabilistic model based on scheduled games, a team's winning percentage, and which team is home.

Jared Wright is pitching well so far, isn't he?

2006-09-10 11:13:32
40.   Ron Burgundy
2006-09-10 11:15:43
41.   rbj
Yeah, captain!
2006-09-10 11:16:07
42.   Mattpat11
2006-09-10 11:16:22
43.   AbbyNormal821
Man, I love that sound on the bat!!!
2006-09-10 11:16:23
44.   yankz
Oh HELL yes
2006-09-10 11:16:37
45.   LI yankee
Captain goes BOOM!
2006-09-10 11:17:59
46.   randym77
Penn may not be as bad as his ERA, but it's close...
2006-09-10 11:18:25
47.   Ron Burgundy
Much better than a bunt.
2006-09-10 11:19:17
48.   Ron Burgundy
2006-09-10 11:20:46
49.   singledd
Torre bats Jetes 3rd.
Genius, pure genius.
(trying to get some Torre comments going here)

39 You're right. I surprised to see Detroit has a relatively easy schedule left. 3 against the White Sox is the worst of it, none against the Twins, 6 against KC, Texas for 2, Baltimore and Toronto.

2006-09-10 11:21:23
50.   singledd
Ooops... and today, 1 game against Minn to close the series.
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2006-09-10 11:21:45
51.   rbj
49 Overall, I think Torre does a great job, though sometimes his bullpen use is a bit frustrating.
2006-09-10 11:23:42
52.   LI yankee
51 Well at least he's eased up on Villone. It's been 5 days since he last pitched.
2006-09-10 11:23:48
53.   singledd
Wow.... Jetes and Cano both 2 for 2. Jetes at .347, Mauer at .348, with Minn. just starting play.
2006-09-10 11:25:27
54.   AbbyNormal821
...and in other good news, Dodgers up on the Mets 4-0. bad new, the BoSux just scored off Redman in the bottom of the 1st. 1-0, but Tek is up and he's been sucking royally (no pun intended!!!)

2006-09-10 11:25:43
55.   rbj
According to Peter A., Matsui and Sheff will join the Yanks on Tuesday. There's going to be a logjam at DH.
2006-09-10 11:26:42
56.   Mattpat11
damn mauer doubled
2006-09-10 11:29:57
57.   singledd
The Hank Aaron award is given for best offensive year... but this aware is barely mentioned. ESPN does NOT do predictions, even though they do MVP. Announced debate who might get the MVP, but the HA award is never mentioned. If the HA award was talked about, and held in esteem, equal to the MVP... then the MVP could be less offensive stats oriented... and more purely 'most valuable'.

However, since the HA award is hardly mentioned, we sometimes wonder why the guy with the best stats doesn't get MVP.

2006-09-10 11:30:42
58.   David
55 I sure hope there's a logjam at DH. AFAIK neither Masui nor Sheff are now ready to play in a game situation. It will be interesting to see how they prepare. It would be fitting if they could practice hitting against Pavano's practice pitching (but, I guess his broken ribs wouldn't allow that.)
2006-09-10 11:32:37
59.   singledd
55 Matsui has had a few games in the minors.. has Shef? Has Shef even seen a pitched ball in 3 months? I wonder if Shef will get much playing time... and if he doesn't, should he take up a spot on the PS roster?
2006-09-10 11:33:52
60.   sabernar
57 So the HA Award is hardly mentioned?
2006-09-10 11:34:28
61.   rbj
Er, the good, Nick Green type, not the bad, amphetamine type.
2006-09-10 11:34:35
62.   Ron Burgundy
Wow. Penn really sucks. A HR to Nick Green.
2006-09-10 11:35:46
63.   AbbyNormal821
That single by Damon reminds me of the Charlie Hayes rolling single of the '96 WS. Beauty!
(Hayes, right? not Fielder?)
2006-09-10 11:36:51
64.   AbbyNormal821
2006-09-10 11:37:00
65.   rbj
59 If Shef doesn't have the in game ABs, he shouldn't be on the PS roster. I just don't think he'd have the batting eye.

Besides, where does he play? OF is Melky, Damon & Abreu. DH is Matsui. And I'd trust Giambi at 1st over Shef.

2006-09-10 11:37:34
66.   singledd
54 If the Yanks go 6-16 (including today), they will finish at 90-72. The Red Sox would have to go 15-5 just to tie us.

2004 be damned. As far as the AL East is concerned, the Red Sox are done.

2006-09-10 11:38:25
67.   LI yankee
Damn. I was hoping Penn would stay in there and give another meatball to Jeter.
2006-09-10 11:40:08
68.   David
Awww. I was hoping Jetes would get another shot at Penn.
2006-09-10 11:40:19
69.   singledd
65 I agree. Torre wants to know if YOU'RE the guy to tell Shef hes NOT on the PS roster...
2006-09-10 11:40:25
70.   sabernar
They're bringing in Russ Ortiz? So I'm guessing the O's are just conceding the game, eh?
2006-09-10 11:42:24
71.   rbj
69 No. Pavano gets to tell Shef. This way, he'll be on the DL for a reason.
2006-09-10 11:48:23
72.   yankz
Jeter trails Mauer by 3 points.
2006-09-10 11:49:37
73.   singledd
Have we faced Santana or Loriano this year? I dont think so. If we play Minn in the ALDS, do we 'waste' our best against Santana and our 2nd best against Loriano?

Assuming Minn. Pitches Santana, Loriano, xxx, xxx, Santana
are we better off going:
RJ, our #4, Wang, Moose, RJ
figuring we win with Wang and Moose, and hoping RJ can split against Santana (both at Yankee Stadium)

2006-09-10 11:51:06
74.   singledd
Shit! There goes MVP....
2006-09-10 11:54:59
75.   David
73 I think you go with your best in game 1, seconed best in game 2, etc. Santana and Loriano are great pitchers, but the Yanks could beat them by getting a well pitched game, getting a run or 2 off the starter, getting runs off the relievers, etc.

Here's another question: How would you rank the Yanks starters?

2006-09-10 11:55:53
76.   Schteeve
2006-09-10 11:58:43
77.   rbj
Wang, Moose, Unit, with Lidle & Wright a toss up. Torre will go with Unit, Moose, Wang though. I guess the rest of the month is the audition for #4, between Lidle & Wright.
2006-09-10 12:01:12
78.   singledd
76... damned defective keyboard
75 The question is: who's the best pitcher to throw 2 games against Minn.? Wang has been our best/most consistant, RJ has been eith great or terrible, little inbetween. Moose, if recovered, is pretty reliable, especially in big situations.

Its a GREAT forum question.
Who throws TWO games against Minn.? and why?
(assuming a 4 man rotation)

2006-09-10 12:03:20
79.   AbbyNormal821
Tubby Fasano...SAFE!
2006-09-10 12:04:08
80.   rbj
It is funny to watch Fasano run.
2006-09-10 12:05:13
81.   singledd
Minns 2 best, Mauer and Morneau are both Lefties... maybe giving RJ a little edge. Is there a page to see 'Batters VS Pitchers', to see how Mauer and Morneau have done against our top 3?
2006-09-10 12:07:21
82.   David
Wang has pitched better at home, so perhaps he should start game 1 or game 2.
2006-09-10 12:07:44
83.   Simone
Penn has a 36.82 ERA. I didn't even know that was possible.
2006-09-10 12:09:28
84.   LI yankee
Mauer IBB
2006-09-10 12:11:26
85.   yankz
The rare HR off Wright
2006-09-10 12:11:30
86.   nemecizer
83 coming into the game he had an ERA of 108!
2006-09-10 12:11:51
87.   rbj
83 And that's about a 70 point drop from where he started today.

I'd like to see Dotel pitch an inning at some point today.

2006-09-10 12:13:59
88.   LI yankee
83 The A's got 8 runs off Henn in 2/3 of an inning. The Yanks got 7 runs off him in 3.

We should be ashamed...

2006-09-10 12:20:18
89.   AbbyNormal821
Jeter f*cking RULES!!!!
2006-09-10 12:20:19
90.   AbbyNormal821
Jeter f*cking RULES!!!!
2006-09-10 12:20:32
91.   Ron Burgundy
Anybody think the Royals can still win that Sucktoberfest game over in Bahston? So do I, ha.
2006-09-10 12:21:30
92.   AbbyNormal821
91 LOL! Ron, i just checked the Gameday on that too and I thought the same thing. Down 4-0? KC's got Boston RIGHT where they want 'em! HAHA!!
2006-09-10 12:23:10
93.   yankz
Jeter's averaged about .65 RBI per game up to this point in the year. He'll have to average a bit over .40 RBI/game for the rest of the year to get to 100. If he continues to play to his mean, he should get there, even with days off. Especially if he gets more AB from the 3-hole.
2006-09-10 12:40:19
94.   rbj
Man. Wright's pitching into the 7th again. Good sign.
2006-09-10 12:46:43
95.   pistolpete
Aw, c'mon Torre - we have an 8 run lead!
2006-09-10 12:47:11
96.   rbj
Nice outing by Wright.
2006-09-10 12:50:59
97.   rbj
2006-09-10 12:52:55
98.   pistolpete
Aww, how cute -VIllone got rid of all Wright's baserunners and he wanted his own!
2006-09-10 12:54:09
99.   joejoejoe
Is Aaron Guiel now ahead of Craig Wilson on the depth chart at first base? Is Guiel's defense at 1B better than Wilson? I'm trying to figure out who will be on the Yankees postseason roster and I'm starting to think it won't be Craig Wilson. Bernie is a decent RH option as a PH and will definitely make the roster. What role does Craig Wilson have on this team if Giambi is healthy in the post season? My guess is none.
2006-09-10 12:54:40
100.   yankz
Great, Proctor's going to come in.
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2006-09-10 12:55:12
101.   Ron Burgundy
And NOW, Torre can use Proctor, because it's a close game now.

I swear, Villone and Proctor need to be put on the 15-Day DL to recover from this Raping Torre id giving them.

2006-09-10 12:57:26
102.   pistolpete
It's Bruney - everyone take a deep breath...
2006-09-10 13:01:36
103.   Ron Burgundy
Can Joe please take Bernie out of the game for a defensive replacement? I speak for all fans when I say that I promise I won't kill him for doing so.
2006-09-10 13:02:36
104.   rbj
99 Yeah, I'd put Guiel ahead of Wilson for the PS roster, even with Wilson's emergency catcher ability.
2006-09-10 13:06:05
105.   AbbyNormal821
YAY! Royals on the board
2006-09-10 13:07:18
106.   Ron Burgundy
And here comes the Kansas City comeback, ha-ha.
2006-09-10 13:07:18
107.   AbbyNormal821
...and I absolutely hate these damned WB commercials!!!!
2006-09-10 13:08:23
108.   LI yankee
Mauer doubles...again
2006-09-10 13:11:48
109.   rbj
Is Bruney eligible for the PS roster?
2006-09-10 13:12:04
110.   LI yankee
Bruney may soon be replacing Villone in the Big Four...
2006-09-10 13:18:27
111.   Ron Burgundy
Proctor warming up. Again.
I loathe Torre. This will be yet another postseason where we come in with a dead and gassed bullpen.
2006-09-10 13:23:44
112.   LI yankee
I really hope that Torre has a plan to rest these guys at least 2 weeks before the postseason.
2006-09-10 13:25:29
113.   AbbyNormal821
111 I don't loathe Torre, but he pisses me off at times. Why not keep Bruney in to close it out?

...see? Give Scotty a break already!

2006-09-10 13:25:32
114.   yankz
Mauer needs to slow down, he's now 6 points ahead of Jeter.
2006-09-10 13:26:59
115.   Ron Burgundy
Meh. Looks like the Sawx will finally win a game VS. the Royals. And you gotta see this. The way the fans are reacting, it's like it's Game 7 of the World Series against (Insert Good NL Team) and not a meaningless September Out-Of-It game against the Royals. I cannot stop laughing.
2006-09-10 13:27:50
116.   randym77
103 Bernie is the defensive replacement. At least, now that Bubba's gone, he is.
2006-09-10 13:28:16
117.   Ron Burgundy
113 OR give Dotel an inning. Either one would do. Instead, Joe is dead-locked on making sure Proctor is 100% useless come October.
2006-09-10 13:29:42
118.   rbj
I think Torre's plan is to rest these guys in Nov. December, the plan is for them to shovel the N.E. whenever there's snow.
2006-09-10 13:29:57
119.   AbbyNormal821
...looks like Boston may actually win one today. No harm, no foul though.
2006-09-10 13:30:34
120.   rbj
Yankees win! Crabcakes for everyone (not A-Rod, he needs some chicken soup.)
2006-09-10 13:31:02
121.   Ron Burgundy
Brandon Fahey is really bad. I can't believe he is even strong enough to hold a baseball bat.

Anywho, we WIN! Just pray Proctor's arm stays attached to its shoulder!

2006-09-10 13:31:13
122.   AbbyNormal821
So what's everyone think Villone's problem is now? Mechanics? Tired? He hasn't pitched in a while - what's up? He was lights out for a while there...
2006-09-10 13:34:25
123.   Ron Burgundy
Oh, and by the way, if the Twinkies win (and it looks like they will, lead Tigers 10-0), we got Home Field throughout the playoffs right now.
2006-09-10 13:40:01
124.   RIYank
Mauer grounds out, at last. But it's 12-0 now and the Tigers seem to have tossed in the towel.
2006-09-10 13:40:54
125.   RIYank
I'm afraid I think Villone just isn't very good. He had a good, lucky streak.
2006-09-10 13:51:00
126.   randym77
125 That's what Cliff said, isn't it? That Villone was saw earlier this year was not the real Villone. It was a fluke.

Though being used so often probably didn't help...

2006-09-10 17:04:58
127.   Jim Dean
Hey, I posted this on Pete's blog, but I figured every one here, being of the stats mindset, would get a kick out of it too:

The scene: So I snuck down to a seat about ten rows behind the plate. And all day I gave Bernie a hard time every time he came up (except against Chen) about hitting righty against the right-handed pitching. I mean ALL day and loud too.

Now, as I'm leaving the Yard's parking lot on my bike (yup, my peddling variety bike), I'm stopped at a crosswalk. All of sudden I hear people yelling "Berrnie...blah blah blah...Bernie..." So I look to my left and there's Bernie - right next to me!

A stream of consciousness comes out. Basically I start by apologizing to Bernie for riding him so hard all game, and then I thank him for all the great years he's given us.

Then I proceed to ask him about his splits this year. And then he's asks "Did you check my splits from last year?" He tells me how he was terrible from the right side last year. I ask him if he knows what the problem is and he says he doesn't.

Long story short I walk with him for maybe three minutes and followup by pointing out the same things I have here (twice as many AB's from the left - maybe more tired?, HR's, etc.) and ask the retirement question ("I don't know. I'll think about it after the season". I reply "Well, either way, we're going to miss you. You're greatest."). And with that he shakes my hand and he heads to the hotel and I head home.

Gotta say he really is a class act. I am going to miss him.

Now if only I could ask Cashman why John Kelly Fasano has been the backup catcher for the last four years...

(By the way, I have two tix for tomorrow night (12 rows from the field off third base - sec. 58) that I can't use. If you'd like them for below face price, email deanzj AT gmail dot com.)

2006-09-10 17:12:24
128.   Gagne55
127 Are you making all that up?
2006-09-10 17:19:05
129.   Jim Dean
[128} I swear every word.
2006-09-10 17:43:02
130.   randym77
127 Wow! Thanks for sharing that.
2006-09-10 19:25:51
131.   pistolpete
127 Nice, Jimmy - that makes up for the worm sign failure...
2006-09-10 20:29:02
132.   yankz
Damn Peyton Manning.
2006-09-10 20:37:07
133.   Dimelo
The f'ing refs made a awful call at the end of the Jints game. I'm so mad right now.

Those Manning commercials are annoying too. F- the Mannings. A fish rots from the head and it all starts with their dad.

2006-09-10 21:22:55
134.   LI yankee
Damn the refs!! I wanted to throw something I was so pissed.

A big difference between baseball and football is you gotta wait a freakin week in football to get over it, while in baseball it's generally 24 hours.

Saw a lot of good things though, even with the L

2006-09-11 04:13:15
135.   wsporter
134 Hell in football you have to wait a week between series; all these commercials are maddening. I have a hard time getting used to the pace of this after a summer of baseball.

Every time the NFL season starts I am reminded of how much I love baseball.

Stinking lousy refs - interference my ass.

2006-09-11 05:14:25
136.   singledd
Rivera continues to improve but still isn't ready
BALTIMORE - Mariano Rivera seems likely to miss at least another week, and perhaps more, because of elbow tightness.

Rivera threw about 40 times, saying he used greater intensity in the final 15 or so. "It was 70 percent, maybe more," he said.

This is not good. 70%? Another week? Moose, Giambi AND Mariano NOT in PS form? Not good.

2006-09-11 05:45:03
137.   rbj
136 Don't panick - yet. Yankees are just getting everyone ready for the postseason.

And the refs in last night's game were infuriating. How about just letting the guys play football. The NFL is becoming too obsessed with rules.

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