Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Out Of The Way
2006-08-17 08:16
by Cliff Corcoran

Before the Yankees can bear down and focus on this weekend's five-game showdown in Boston, they need to get the last game of their current series with the Orioles out of the way. Fortunately, it's a day game, which will give them the evening to travel north. Of course, the first game of tomorrow's doubleheader is at 1:05 as well, and the Red Sox not only don't have to travel, but don't have to play today either. But you take what you can get.

Speaking of which, Jaret Wright takes the mound this afternoon. He's been excellent in his three August starts, which include a 6-inning, 1-run outing against these same Orioles. Overall his August line is: 3-0, 1.65 ERA, 16 1/3 IP, 12 H, 3 R, 0 HR, 9 BB, 10 K, 1.29 WHIP. I know I said it before his last start, but I have to repeat it, Wright hasn't allowed a home run since June 16 and has surrendered just four taters in 102 innings on the season.

As was the case when Wright last started against the Orioles, his mound opponent will be Rodrigo Lopez. Lopez gave up five runs in seven innings in that last meeting, suffering the loss despite an excellent 7:1 K/BB ratio. In his one start since then he lasted just 4 2/3 innings against the Red Sox, allowing three runs on seven hits, with a still-solid 5:2 K/BB ratio. An even more encouraging statistic is Lopez's 7.22 road ERA this season.

Here's hoping the Yanks can pull out a win this afternoon to take their fourth series of the season from the O's and head into this weekend's showdown with a 2.5 lead in the East.

Breaking News: The Red Sox just acquired Eric Hinske from the Blue Jays for a PTBNL. I'm unmoved by this transaction. Hinske has some great numbers as a part-time player this year, but he's cooled off of late, hitting .167/.310/.208 while starting the majority of the Blue Jays' games in August. If Hinske was really that useful, Toronto wouldn't have given the former Rookie of the Year to a division rival for chump change. What's more, the Sox made a similar deal obtaining Javy Lopez from another AL East team recently, but Lopez has been riding pine more often than not as Doug Mirabelli gets the starts behind the plate. My only question is if this will force the Sox to drop a pitcher. Right now they have a three-man bench (Cora, Kapler, Lopez) and a eight-man bullpen, which I had assumed was in anticipation of playing five games in four days against the Yankees this weekend.

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2006-08-17 08:55:53
1.   randym77
And here's the lineup. No Wilson. Bernie DHing.

Johnny Damon CF
Derek Jeter SS
Bobby Abreu RF
Jason Giambi 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Jorge Posada C
Bernie Williams DH
Melky Cabrera LF

2006-08-17 09:01:09
2.   mehmattski
My name is Matt, and I approve this lineup.

Seriously, I would rather see Bernie batting left handed than Wilson or Phillips look lost at the plate again. And moving up the red hot Cano is awesome. I hope Torre is okay that there are two lefties in a row in the middle of the lineup...

2006-08-17 09:02:43
3.   Cliff Corcoran
2 Except for Bernie in place of Wilson, this was the same line-up he used on Monday and Tuesday.
2006-08-17 09:06:54
4.   mehmattski
So Bernie can start his assault on Gerhigs franchise doubles record today. Only 80 or so to go! When I imagine SCUBA Sheff or Gozirra instead of Bernie... I get a tingly feeling all over. Abreu-Giambi is genius though, hopefully pitchers start to get frustrated and throw meatballs to A-Rod.

On second thought, if Bernie were playing on the Yankees long enough to get to 534 doubles, there wouldn't be much of a Banter left, everyone here would have jammed sporks in their eyes...

2006-08-17 09:15:07
5.   mehmattski
Any thoughts on here as to the Red Sox recent acquisitions of Eric Hinkse and Carlos Pena? It seems like if this were a fantasy baseball league, the commish would have to step in and prevent the Blue Jays from dismantling its team... And I have a bad feeling about Pena hitting a big home run against the Yanks down the stretch.

Sorry for being extra energetic about posting, but I have a meeting during the game so I have to get my posting in now...

2006-08-17 09:16:14
6.   randym77
Here's the boids. No Conine. No Millar.

Brian Roberts 2B
Nick Markakis RF
Melvin Mora 3B
Miguel Tejada SS
Jay Gibbons DH
Fernando Tatis 1B
Corey Patterson CF
Brandon Fahey LF
Chris Widger C

2006-08-17 09:19:44
7.   Cliff Corcoran
5 Read the above post.
2006-08-17 09:27:59
8.   Alvaro Espinoza
5 My opinion: unless Hinske has learned how to pitch, this move is irrelevant.
2006-08-17 09:30:38
9.   unmoderated
i gotta kooky feeling wright's going 8 strong today...
2006-08-17 09:30:54
10.   Cliff Corcoran
8 The only think Hinske offers that the Sox didn't have is a useful lefty bat off the bench (read: not Alex Cora). But beyond that I couldn't agree more.
2006-08-17 09:31:03
11.   mehmattski
7 Was that there before, or did you just add it... I think all the Code Red I've been drinking is going to my head...

6 That's "Millah." Get it right.

2006-08-17 09:35:55
12.   Bama Yankee
5 My only thought is that Eric Hinske looks like Kevin James from the "King of Queens".

Seriously, he will see more action off their bench than Andy Phillips sees off our bench during this weekend. I love Andy, but if we are not going to use him we need someone else in his spot.

2006-08-17 09:37:32
13.   unpopster
5, 8 the fans and tabloids in Boston have been crying about how Theo didn't make a substantial move during the trading deadline. This Hinske trade screams of making a move-to-just-make-a-move in order to maybe appease TheoGenius's critics
2006-08-17 09:37:51
14.   randym77
They just said Corey Lidle has been placed on the bereavement list. His grandmother died. Bruney has been called up from Columbus.
2006-08-17 09:40:23
15.   Bama Yankee
11 As Tom Cruise would say: "Did you order the Code Red!"

Man, I love that stuff too...

2006-08-17 09:43:39
16.   mehmattski
14 That's terrible news, best wishes to the Lidle family.

Not to make light of a bad situation, but the Yanks do pick up another arm. Of course, they've succeeded in adding a pitcher who looks less like a baseball player than Colter Bean:

Apparently Bean, Beam, DeSalvo, White, Karstens, DePaula, and Colome were all in on the Torre's Dog Conspiracy.

2006-08-17 09:48:44
17.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
14 Bruney's got 22 ks in 14.1 ip for Columbus. That's over 14 ks per 9 innings for those counting at home. Tho he's also got 8 bbs in that span, which is much less impressive.
2006-08-17 09:50:37
18.   eephus
Sweet, it's Leiter and Kaat on YES (I get to work from home on Thursdsays). I think they make a good team...
2006-08-17 09:51:44
19.   randym77
Karstens might still be called up. If they have to use Ponson today, they'll call up Karstens to start tomorrow. Lidle on the bereavement list means they can do it without DFAing Andy. Just send Bruney back down.

Kris Wilson pitched a complete game last night, so he wasn't available. Bean and Beam pitched the other night, though Beam was only a reliever and could presumably go again if needed. I'm kind of surprised they didn't pick him.

2006-08-17 09:53:05
20.   Cliff Corcoran
14 Brian Bruney? Holy Off-The-Radar Promotion, Batman. Well, they couldn't bring back Veras because he has to be back in the minors for ten days. The other pitchers on the 40-man are DeSalvo (who's in AA because he's been terible), Henn (who's been on and off the DL all year, and was just reactivated on 8/15), and Karstens, who many thought might be called up anyway. Why not Karstens?

Here's my theory. They only want Karstens as a starter, but they won't need him as a starter unless Ponson is forced into action today. So they call up an expendable reliever like Bruney with the idea that if they do use Ponson and have to call on Karstens, they can just send Bruney back Mitch Jones style and not have to worry about not being able to recall him for ten days.

They probably also expect Lidle to be back in time for his Monday start, so there's no need to replace him with another starter. I will be interested to see, however, if they upgrade from Bruney tomorrow if it turns out they don't need Karstens.

For what it's worth, Bruney is a beefy 24-year-old righty who started the season in the Diamondbacks organization. Bruney had 12 saves, but a nasty 7.43 ERA for the D-Backs last year and also pitched 31 1/3 innings out of the Arizona pen in 2004 with a roughly league average ERA. All of his numbers this year are tiny samples, but in 14 1/3 innings with the Clippers he's allowed just ten hits and struck out 22, though he has also walked eight. Over his career he's struck out nearly 10 men per nine innings in both the majors and minors, but has had major control issues.

2006-08-17 09:55:34
21.   Cliff Corcoran
21 Oops, I missed T.J. Beam. Eh, he may be helpful next year, but he needs to cook a bit longer in the minors. Not that Bruney's necessarily a better option, but perhaps Beam will be that relief upgrade for tomorrow that I theorized about.
2006-08-17 09:55:46
22.   randym77
Cory Lidle is expected to rejoin the team Sunday, so he won't miss his start.
2006-08-17 10:00:54
23.   SF Yanks
16 No kidding. I didn't think it was possible to look even less like a baseball player than Bean. Bruney looks like he belongs in one of those Animal House movies.
2006-08-17 10:07:18
24.   seamus
stupid won't load the yankes game. I keep getting Mets v Phillies.
2006-08-17 10:07:26
25.   Fred Vincy
Arg -- am I the only one who's getting the Mets on MLB TV instead of the Yankees? Arg arg arg.
2006-08-17 10:07:43
26.   SF Yanks
Who's rootin for Tiger? I know I am.
2006-08-17 10:08:34
27.   BayRidger
18. I dunno; I like Leiter in the booth too but it's hard not to chuckle when you hear him talking about "throwing strikes" something he had a bit of trouble doing. But I have to give him credit, he has been willing to talk about his shortcomings as a pitcher on the air.
2006-08-17 10:08:43
28.   SF Yanks
26 Woods, that is, not the Tigers. - Sorry, off topic.
2006-08-17 10:09:37
29.   Zack
24, 25 Same here, and man do I not want to watch the muts-phils...
2006-08-17 10:09:59
30.   eephus
Speaking of not looking like a baseball player - did anyone see that Angels-Rangers brawl from last night? Yikes. I've seen 12-year-old girls have more macho fights.

You can watch the clip there if you like seeing grown men frantically slap at each other...

2006-08-17 10:11:44
31.   BayRidger
Is everyone seeing what I'm seeing? Is that the beginings of a mustache on Wright?
2006-08-17 10:11:50
32.   eephus
27 very true. Maybe I just haven't had the chance to get sick of him yet.

Hoo boy. That's not a good start...

2006-08-17 10:12:46
33.   Zack
Cliff, were you trying to jinx Wright, because it sure worked!
2006-08-17 10:13:01
34.   randym77
Are you kidding me? Brian Roberts had only four homers this year.

Now he has five...

2006-08-17 10:13:23
35.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Ixnay with the omerunhey regarding Wright from now on Cliff.
2006-08-17 10:14:51
36.   eephus
31 Oh my god, you're right. It's catching.
2006-08-17 10:15:04
37.   BklynBmr
31 Yeah, huh? I hope this porn 'stash thing doesn't get out of hand. Can you picture one on Jeter or Melky? Yikes...
2006-08-17 10:19:21
38.   rsmith51
I sensed the Wright was going to give up a homer while reading Cliff's post. Hopefully that is the only one.
2006-08-17 10:20:28
39.   SF Yanks
That looked like it was a popup
2006-08-17 10:20:29
40.   randym77
And Damon gives 'em tit for tat...
2006-08-17 10:20:48
41.   Ron Burgundy
Damon doing his thing.
2006-08-17 10:20:55
42.   eephus
If you'd told me this would happen last year I never would have believed it, but I think I have a crush on Johnny Damon.
2006-08-17 10:21:20
43.   rsmith51
Good start, Johnny!
2006-08-17 10:21:37
44.   SF Yanks
Johnny's growin one too! Tell me I'm not the only one who saw that.
2006-08-17 10:21:57
45.   Sliced Bread
Damon is sporting the beginnings of a moustache too.
2006-08-17 10:22:03
46.   SF Yanks
I know he's had one before but still
2006-08-17 10:22:12
47.   rsmith51
42 Too much information, eephus ;-)
2006-08-17 10:22:56
48.   Ron Burgundy

Jeter's AVG. down below .340. Damn, his AVG. has dropped .020 in two weeks. I hope Mauer has that Catcher-getting-tired syndrome and cools off.

2006-08-17 10:23:06
49.   Sliced Bread
44 I'm with ya SF. I wiped off my screen because I thought Johnny's 'stache might have been a streak of dust.
2006-08-17 10:24:31
50.   Knuckles
If we don't bomb Lopez today I am not going to be a happy camper heading into the weekend.
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2006-08-17 10:26:53
51.   pistolpete
It would be hysterical if the 'staches became the new 'shaved head/team bonding act' of 2006.
2006-08-17 10:28:18
52.   SF Yanks
The team that doesn't like facial hair, now has facial hair. --> that didn't come out right.
2006-08-17 10:29:12
53.   Travis
I think if all the Yankees grew mustaches, it would certainly justify the acquisition of Fasano.
2006-08-17 10:29:39
54.   Ron Burgundy
50 I haven't been a happy camper for 2 weeks now. The offense has been scoring most of their runs on HRs for two weeks now. And if they don't hit HRs, they don't score at all. I don't know why, but even with Cano and Abreu, they still have trouble scoring. There's a lot of OBP., but nobody on the team can actually drive in the runs.
2006-08-17 10:31:42
55.   pistolpete
What a shocker, Wright goes 3-2 on Patterson.
2006-08-17 10:32:29
56.   Sliced Bread
53 ... and Suzyn Waldman.

sorry, cheap shot. my bad.

2006-08-17 10:34:15
57.   RIYank
Whoa, JW gets a quick out.
A mere 34 pitches to get through seven batters.

How the heck are we going to get through this game without wasting the pen for tomorrow??? So predictable, too. I guess there wasn't much Joe could do about it.

2006-08-17 10:35:11
58.   Zack
Should we put bets on what inning and for how long EDSP shows up?
2006-08-17 10:35:43
59.   Ron Burgundy
58 EDSP?
2006-08-17 10:35:55
60.   eephus
2006-08-17 10:35:59
61.   Cliff Corcoran
Sorry about the homer jinx, guys. I kinda knew it was gonna happen, but the stat was too impressive not to post. Besides, even with that dinger, it's still an impressive stat, and he was over due to serve one up.

Meanwhile, from bobtaco on the previous thread:

2006-08-17 10:36:19
62.   Travis
"Every Day Scott Proctor?"
2006-08-17 10:36:23
63.   Ron Burgundy
NOTE to Offense: Lopez has an ERA over 6.00
2006-08-17 10:36:50
64.   Cliff Corcoran
58 Every Day Scottie Proctor (I had to think about that one).
2006-08-17 10:37:30
65.   Sliced Bread
Cano goes upper deck!
2006-08-17 10:37:39
66.   Ron Burgundy
Cano got my Note.
UPPER DECK moonshot.
Bravo, Bravo!
2006-08-17 10:37:42
67.   Travis
Rodrigo Lopez is a homer-giving-up machine.
2006-08-17 10:37:51
68.   randym77
Wow. He really mashed that one.
2006-08-17 10:37:54
69.   RIYank
Yikes. Well done, Robby.
This could be a very weird game.
2006-08-17 10:37:57
70.   Zack
Robbie showing some more power!
2006-08-17 10:38:11
71.   rsmith51
In play, run-scoring play

Gotta be a HR or a triple with an error.

2006-08-17 10:38:23
72.   Marcus
I'm just waiting for the headlines once that picture 61 comes true:

"Yankees Grow Push Brooms, Sweep Red Sox"

2006-08-17 10:38:43
73.   RIYank
Ron Burgundy's Minor Prescience strikes again.
2006-08-17 10:38:55
74.   pistolpete
My ideal scenario - we go up 15-1 before the 5th, and Jaret is forced to go 9, even if he gives up 10 more runs. Heh.
2006-08-17 10:39:04
75.   Zack
Sorry about the EDSP thing, sometimes I get lost in my typing laziness...
2006-08-17 10:39:06
76.   Cliff Corcoran
The thing about the 'staches is that those "bonded by hair" teams never seem to win it all. The '03 Red Sox were the head-shavers, not the '04 team, and the Cardinals tried a beard thing last year and failed to make the World Series.

Then again, the mustache thing did work pretty darn well for the '72-'74 A's. But do you really think pretty boy Jeter would grow one?

2006-08-17 10:39:33
77.   rsmith51
Well, Ron the Yankees are scoring via HR today as well.
2006-08-17 10:39:56
78.   Ron Burgundy
Bad swing Jorge, BAAAAAAAAD swing. Come on amigo, that was a 55-Foot pitch.
2006-08-17 10:40:37
79.   Zack
61 Jaret and Melky kind of have scary Hitler staches in that pic...
2006-08-17 10:41:19
80.   Ron Burgundy
Bernie 0-19 against Lopez, but at least we get him in the line-up, eh Joe?
2006-08-17 10:41:25
81.   Cliff Corcoran
74 They tried that with him against the D-Rays last year the first time the Yanks scored 13 in one inning against them and Wright just couldn't get anyone out. He's a different pitcher now, though.
2006-08-17 10:41:26
82.   eephus
76 More importantly, can Melky Cabrera even grow facial hair?
2006-08-17 10:41:51
83.   Zack
damon looks pretty good with a stache (no surprise) and A-Rod looks by far the worse (also no surprise)
2006-08-17 10:42:04
84.   Ron Burgundy
79 Then I assume you haven't seen the Kitler...
2006-08-17 10:42:04
85.   rsmith51
How about if all the Bronx Banter people all grow mustaches? I don't think my wife would appreciate that.
2006-08-17 10:42:13
86.   JL25and3
75 EDSP is good, I understood that one right away. The only reason Torre uses him once every day is that he can't use him twice (except tomorrow).
2006-08-17 10:42:26
87.   Cliff Corcoran
80 Better yesterday and today than in Boston.
2006-08-17 10:42:49
88.   seamus
why is bernie playing against this guy again? He is playing DH too, which makes it more befuddling.
2006-08-17 10:43:13
89.   rsmith51
ARod looks like the head drug dealer in a bad movie.
2006-08-17 10:43:43
90.   Sliced Bread
76 Great point re: the "bonded by hair" clubs. A lot of the '77-'78 Yanks had moustaches: Willie, Reggie, Gator, Sparky, Thurman, etc. but that was more a style of the times than a "we are hair family" statement.
2006-08-17 10:43:49
91.   Ron Burgundy
87 True. But remember, Joe wants to get him more playing time and "This is Bernie's time of the year", so...
2006-08-17 10:44:08
92.   AbbyNormal821
76 - not only that, but can baby-faced Wang even GROW facial hair?? ;-)
2006-08-17 10:44:11
93.   pistolpete
85 How would we prove we've grown them?

My wife gets too creeped out by the 'stache - says I look like a combination of a used car salesman and my Dad.

2006-08-17 10:44:31
94.   Coco Loco
87 I imagine we'll see bernie start against lester tomorrow night. Let's just hope it's not in CF.
2006-08-17 10:45:13
95.   Travis
76 Anyone remember when the Knicks used to shave their heads for the playoffs? I remember Ewing being one of the few exceptions.
2006-08-17 10:45:33
96.   Cliff Corcoran
85 When last year's old-timer's day rolled around I realized I hadn't shaved for a little over a week, so I shaved what I had into a Goose-style fu-manchu. When I got home (I went to the game with Jay Jaffe), my girlfriend recoiled in horror. So I went upstairs and shaved it into a normal, Tom Selleck-styled mustache and came back down to show her. She was even more horrified. I actually think I pulled it off pretty well, but she insisted I finish the job and shave the thing off. She was fine with the last beard I grew, though.
2006-08-17 10:46:12
97.   RIYank
That's the way, Jaret. Four innings, one run, 97 pitches.
2006-08-17 10:46:26
98.   AbbyNormal821
82 - clearly we're thinking the same thing!!! LOL!
2006-08-17 10:46:31
99.   pistolpete
It doesn't work unless everyone does it. In 2003, Damon and Manny were two such guys who didn't participate. I guess a 'stache is more Damon's style.
2006-08-17 10:46:49
100.   Zack
Staches are pretty hard to pull off without either being a molster or a dad.
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2006-08-17 10:47:47
101.   yankz
Jetes below .340, damn you Melvin Mora.
2006-08-17 10:48:18
102.   Zack
Hey, maybe this will turn out to be good: Ponson will have to come in and pitch, forcing Karstans to pitch tomorrow, which, even if he gets shelled, I would rather see than Ponson...Of course, it might be traumatic for Karstans...
2006-08-17 10:48:27
103.   dwight45
97 46 pitches after first pitch to Markakis.
2006-08-17 10:48:48
104.   Cliff Corcoran
100 Yeah, I instantly looked like someone's father with the Selleck-stache. It was really weird. I now wish I had grown one in college when I had a different pattern of facial hair every other month.
2006-08-17 10:49:38
105.   Cliff Corcoran
Hey, those were two efficient walks, just nine pitches!
2006-08-17 10:49:40
106.   RIYank
I like how Jaret isn't wasting pitches on his walks anymore. Save those strikes for later.
2006-08-17 10:49:58
107.   SF Yanks
The stache actually fits Jeter. It's kinda weird.
2006-08-17 10:50:22
108.   rsmith51
Never a good idea to walk the 1 and 2 hitters to get to the 3 and 4 hitters.
2006-08-17 10:51:38
109.   Cliff Corcoran
For some reason I remember Bernie having a Dave Winfield stache at some point. Am I crazy? I think I'm crazy.
2006-08-17 10:52:06
110.   Shaun P
107 The Jeter 'stache made me think he had to be bald under the cap, don't know why.
2006-08-17 10:52:15
111.   RIYank
(Public Address System)
"If anyone has seen the strike zone, please report to the Yankee clubhouse."
2006-08-17 10:52:17
112.   JL25and3
I get to listen to Sterling and Waldman...Sterling just said "Jaret Wright has pitched himself into trouble in every respect." I wonder what that means.
2006-08-17 10:52:34
113.   Cliff Corcoran
110 Is it because he looks a bit like Bye Bye Balboni?
2006-08-17 10:53:29
114.   RIYank
I think Jaret read 108. "Oh, I'm supposed to walk the 3 and 4 guys. Got it, sorry."
2006-08-17 10:53:46
115.   Cliff Corcoran
Another efficient walk! Go Jaret!

Here's where Tejada hits a bases-clearing single because he refuses to run out of the box.

2006-08-17 10:53:53
116.   Zack
Well this can't turn out well...
2006-08-17 10:53:59
117.   rbj
I'm glad I'm at work today and pretty busy so I don't have to concern myself with the game.
2006-08-17 10:54:20
118.   JL25and3
Villone is warming up.
2006-08-17 10:54:40
119.   rsmith51
108 Of course it is better than walking the bases loaded to face a Yankee-killer.
2006-08-17 10:54:56
120.   Cliff Corcoran
1-2? This was all just a trap for Miggy.
2006-08-17 10:55:13
121.   yankz
This is like that Major League movie where Charlie Sheen walks the batter to get to the slugger that has great numbers against him.
2006-08-17 10:55:17
122.   kylepetterson
Just setting up for the quadruple play.
2006-08-17 10:55:20
123.   Ron Burgundy
Settle down Wright.
2006-08-17 10:55:21
124.   eephus
98 Ha, yep. Also, I guess that being girls, we would both have some trouble joining in with the Bronx Banter moustache plan (85). Sadly.
2006-08-17 10:55:23
125.   pistolpete
A strike! A strike! A strike!!!
2006-08-17 10:55:34
126.   JL25and3
120 Fell right into that wild-pitch trap
2006-08-17 10:55:40
127.   randym77
Oh, crap.

Is Ponson warming yet?

2006-08-17 10:55:43
128.   Zack
I think Abreu's picture is so goofy and weird to begin with, that throw the 'Stache in there, and it just makes me laugh...
2006-08-17 10:55:46
129.   Cliff Corcoran
The 2-2 is going to be hit hard.
2006-08-17 10:56:06
130.   pistolpete
TWO strikes! Ah ah ahhhh... (count from Sesame Street)
2006-08-17 10:56:15
131.   RIYank
Well, that was different.
2006-08-17 10:57:04
132.   Travis
109 Cliff, you're not crazy. Here's a Bernie baseball card from 1990:

2006-08-17 10:57:34
133.   Ron Burgundy
OK, we have a 5 game series over 4 days coming up. So we have to waste the bullpen today. DAMN IT!
2006-08-17 10:57:36
134.   Simone
Jaret Wright = One of the Yankees' worse free agent signings
2006-08-17 10:57:36
135.   JL25and3
Sterling: "If you don't have pitching, there's nothing you can do. You have to have someone on the mound all nine innings."
2006-08-17 10:57:45
136.   Zack
So we run into the problem: do we bring in Ponson and basically forfit this game, or try to destroy the BP, which Joe seems to be headed for?
2006-08-17 10:57:45
137.   yankz
I called it- just like Charlie Sheen.
2006-08-17 10:57:50
138.   SF Yanks
110 When I look at it again, I have to agree.
2006-08-17 10:57:58
139.   Cliff Corcoran
128 That picture says "time to make the Donuts," but with a Venezualan accent.
2006-08-17 10:58:01
140.   eephus
This game, so far, is like the concentrated essence of Jaret Wright.
2006-08-17 10:58:06
141.   RIYank
2006-08-17 10:59:11
142.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
Bruney has got to be the first man out of the pen....

I would love to see the Yanks hang a 10 spot on the board and let Wright throw the last 4 innings with his other arm

2006-08-17 10:59:14
143.   pistolpete
Prediction, final score: 19-18 Yankees in 28 innings, we burn EVERYONE.
2006-08-17 10:59:54
144.   Shaun P
132 Wasn't that back during Bernie's huge coke bottle glasses days? Where are those?

I still can't believe Tejada struck out. Oh, there's a ball to Gibbons, that's more like Wright.

2006-08-17 11:00:29
145.   yanklifer
If Joe uses Ponson, who would start game two tomorrow?
2006-08-17 11:00:48
146.   eephus
2006-08-17 11:01:04
147.   pistolpete
Wright is channeling Shawn Chacon, no?
2006-08-17 11:01:05
148.   Cliff Corcoran
144 He switched to contacts, then had laser eye surgery several years back.
2006-08-17 11:01:37
149.   Sliced Bread
145 Proctor, providing he only goes 2 innings in the first game.
2006-08-17 11:01:39
150.   Cliff Corcoran
145 Minor leaguer Jeffrey Karstens would be called up to make the start.
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2006-08-17 11:02:04
151.   RIYank
Ah, so it is possible to get a base hit within the confines of the stadium. That's good to know.
2006-08-17 11:02:09
152.   yankz
Well this really bites.
2006-08-17 11:02:29
153.   Cliff Corcoran
Anyone watching on TV or listening to radio who can desribe Bobby's error?
2006-08-17 11:02:30
154.   Zack
On the other hand, we could just force Wright to pitch 6 no matter what...
2006-08-17 11:02:46
155.   pistolpete
To quote Ron:

DIAF, Gibbons.

2006-08-17 11:03:15
156.   Shaun P
138 I think Cliff is on to something in 113 with his Balboni comparison.

If one of the women out there would be so kind - Derek Jeter = hot studly dude. Steve Balboni = fugly sonuvagun. Does Jeter with the stache retain his charms, or does the fact that his face looks like Balboni's ruin the deal?

2006-08-17 11:03:28
157.   rsmith51
151 Maybe the Yankees can use that knowledge for the good of all mankind. Well at least for the good of all Yankee fans.
2006-08-17 11:03:31
158.   Zack
Didn't see an actual error, just looked like he was slow getting to the ball, then made a bad throw to 2nd...
2006-08-17 11:04:23
159.   SF Yanks
153 Sorry, I missed it. I was too busy reading the BB. I swear, I spend more time reading this than I do watching the game.
2006-08-17 11:04:25
160.   pistolpete
At least Lopez isn't pitching like Cy Loewens/Bedard today.
2006-08-17 11:04:46
161.   jkay

Retired pitcher Brown in turf battle

The grass apparently is not greener on the other side of the fence for retired Major League Baseball pitcher Kevin Brown, who reportedly pulled out a pistol in a dispute with a neighbor over yard debris.

2006-08-17 11:06:17
162.   Zack
Speaking of Balboni, would you send your kid to learn baseball from Steve-o?
2006-08-17 11:06:18
163.   randym77
I think the error was on the bad throw.
2006-08-17 11:06:19
164.   pistolpete
160 Never mind. Here's where he 'settles down'.
2006-08-17 11:06:19
165.   yankz
161 Over yard debris? Are they kidding?
2006-08-17 11:06:36
166.   AbbyNormal821
156 Jeter w/mustache, could play the next Huggy Bear - he looks like a pimp! No thanks on the 'stache.
2006-08-17 11:06:45
167.   yankz
Damon = en fuego
2006-08-17 11:06:54
168.   Ron Burgundy
161 Well, nice to know MR. Sunshine is happy.
2006-08-17 11:06:55
169.   Shaun P
149 Sliced, my co-workers are looking at me and wondering why I'm laughing right now.

With Wright throwing the way he is, that's all we can do now is laugh. I hope Ponson pitches because I'd rather see Karstens tomorrow at Fenway than Sir Sidney.

2006-08-17 11:06:58
170.   Cliff Corcoran
Six bases in two ABs for Damon, anyone else anticipate a big weekend coming from him in Fenway.
2006-08-17 11:07:39
171.   Eirias
Come on guys... his ERA is OVER SIX.
2006-08-17 11:07:57
172.   SF Yanks
Jeter picked a bad time to go slumping.
2006-08-17 11:08:04
173.   Ron Burgundy
What's wrong with Jeter? He just struck out TWICE against Rordigo Lopez!
2006-08-17 11:08:13
174.   yankz
Jeter, not so much. Bad, bad AB.
2006-08-17 11:08:16
175.   Zack
Is Jeter hurt?
2006-08-17 11:09:19
176.   JL25and3
175 Maybe he really is channeling Steve Balboni.
2006-08-17 11:09:25
177.   Ron Burgundy
NOTE to offense: This is Rodrigo Lopez. MOST of you clowns OWN this douchebag. Get some hits and runs here, please.
2006-08-17 11:09:27
178.   Cliff Corcoran
175 I think he's hurt by our insinuations that he's one bad mustache away from looking like Steve Balboni.
2006-08-17 11:09:49
179.   Ron Burgundy
I'm gonna go gouge my eyes out...
2006-08-17 11:10:08
180.   randym77
If Jeter's hurt, Abreu has the same thing. :-P
2006-08-17 11:10:20
181.   seamus
Cy Lopez
2006-08-17 11:10:32
182.   Cliff Corcoran
Lopez strikes out the side, including Jeter and Abreu on seven pitches. Oy.
2006-08-17 11:10:43
183.   yanklifer
it is so frustrating to see a terrible pitcher toy with us, and I am afraid it has been happening alot lately
2006-08-17 11:11:05
184.   AbbyNormal821
When the f**k did Lopez learn how to pitch!?
2006-08-17 11:11:15
185.   maphesto
For those who have did they fix the video feed? It was showing Mets/Phillies instead of Yankees/Orioles.
2006-08-17 11:11:15
186.   Travis
I'm pretty sure I've seen this game before.
2006-08-17 11:11:18
187.   Ron Burgundy
Lopez has 5 Ks in 3 IP. And all we got is 2 Runs. He has an ERA OVER 6.00. This team is just THE STANDARD for futility and incompitence. All the talent and OBP in the world, and they have trouble scoring off guys like Vazquez, Lopez, and Loewen.
2006-08-17 11:11:23
188.   eephus
153 Sorry, I missed it too! I was actually attempting to do work. That didn't last long.

156 I've never actually thought Derek Jeter was all that hot... my heart belongs to Paul O'Neill. However, I'd guess the answer to your question is that in general Derek Jeter can probably get away with whatever facial hair he wants to, being Derek Jeter. If he were just another schlub in Michigan, though, the moustache might well be a dealbreaker.

2006-08-17 11:11:59
189.   Travis
185 Yes.
2006-08-17 11:12:01
190.   RIYank
A rarely used sentence:
"Rodrigo Lopez strikes out the side."
2006-08-17 11:12:06
191.   Zack
Yeah, has YES now...
2006-08-17 11:12:10
192.   Ron Burgundy
186 I've been watching the same game for two weeks now. This team has been sleep-walking in that span.
2006-08-17 11:12:33
193.   pistolpete
In accordance with my apparent 'fantasy curse' (Wright, Saunders), I am now going to pick up any Red Sox starters that remain on the waiver wire in my league, in preparation for this weekend...

It always has to be close when we play the Sox, doesn't it. I don't think we've played a series with them since 2003 where there's been more than 2-3 games between us...

2006-08-17 11:13:34
194.   Ron Burgundy
Did he...Did he just...Did he just walk COREY PATTERSON?!
2006-08-17 11:14:10
195.   yanklifer
Patterson will turn that into a double at least
2006-08-17 11:14:10
196.   pistolpete
Nice, Jaret - picked the perfect day to pull this crap.
2006-08-17 11:14:26
197.   yankz
Four BB!!!
2006-08-17 11:14:50
198.   Travis
193 Don't do it. You'll end up unhappy no matter what happens.
2006-08-17 11:14:55
199.   Eirias
Put in Ponson!
2006-08-17 11:15:40
200.   JL25and3
Sterl;ing: "When you're a pitcher, you're out there alone. Nobody can pitch for you. They can't block for you, they can't...You're alone."
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2006-08-17 11:16:11
201.   RIYank
Let's have a Silver Lining contest.
102 currently the only entry.
2006-08-17 11:16:55
202.   Shaun P
166 188 Thanks, ladies!

Is it possible that's Adam Loewen out there, disguised as Lopez? I'm frustrated, but c'mon, this is the Orioles - the Yanks will come back!

2006-08-17 11:17:14
203.   yanklifer
He's going to burn the pen. bad bad bad.
2006-08-17 11:17:21
204.   Travis
Is Al Leiter available? He did pretty well in an emergency start in Fenway last year. I'm only half-kidding.
2006-08-17 11:17:22
205.   yankz
FU, Wright.
2006-08-17 11:17:22
206.   pistolpete
Silver lining: tomorrow is Friday.
2006-08-17 11:17:25
207.   Ron Burgundy
Hey, Wright also has a small stache going.

Two weeks ago, I knew we were going to win at least 4 of 5 in Fenway. With every day, my confidence faded. And now with us playing below .500 and losing to the Orioles and our bullpen having to go 6 innings today, I have no confidence left. I know we're superior in every way to the Sawx, but same thing with the Orioles, Angels, and White Sox, and we can't beat those fuckers. Damn it.

2006-08-17 11:17:37
208.   rsmith51
201 At least Giambi's defense won't determine the outcome of the game.
2006-08-17 11:18:39
209.   Ron Burgundy
As advertised, Patterson turns it into a double.
2006-08-17 11:19:02
210.   yanklifer
I hear Kevin Brown is available
2006-08-17 11:19:07
211.   Travis
Patterson came completely off-the-base there when he popped up his slide. The ump didn't notice.
2006-08-17 11:19:12
212.   Ron Burgundy
201 At least we'll have a rested bullpen tommorrow?
2006-08-17 11:19:21
213.   Cliff Corcoran
201 If the Yankees lose today they'll be extra pissed off going into the weekend and will play harder against the Sox.
2006-08-17 11:19:36
214.   rbj
201 The boo birds won't have any energy left to boo A-Rod.
2006-08-17 11:19:39
215.   eephus
201 At least Wright isn't pitching at Fenway this weekend.
2006-08-17 11:19:53
216.   RIYank
My entry:
A-Rod will have the opportunity to hit at least one game-tying grand slam.
2006-08-17 11:20:06
217.   Alvaro Espinoza
Disgraceful performance by Wright.
2006-08-17 11:20:07
218.   randym77
I timeslipped the DVR, and YES did not show Abreu fielding that ball. At all. It did take an awful long time for him to get the ball in. In the gamethread over at YES, they said he bobbled it.
2006-08-17 11:21:32
219.   Alvaro Espinoza
213 I don't think this team gets pissed off at anyone.
2006-08-17 11:21:48
220.   yankz
Silver lining: This game will go on for so long that the whole team will have moustaches. Although, that's probably not a good thing.
2006-08-17 11:21:54
221.   Travis
201 A-Rod will have the opportunity to pad his stats in the late innings.
2006-08-17 11:22:15
222.   RIYank
Villone has to get the hang of the Efficient Walk thing.
2006-08-17 11:22:22
223.   yanklifer
2006-08-17 11:23:12
224.   Ron Burgundy
Walking BRANDON FAHEY is like walking...I don't even know. Is there any worse of a baseball player you can walk. He's 6-2, but 160 pounds. My God, how is he even a baseball player? How can he even hold the bat?
2006-08-17 11:23:27
225.   pistolpete
Silver lining: maybe it'll be a complete blowout, and we can just put the rook in for the rest of the game...
2006-08-17 11:24:07
226.   pistolpete
Fabulous, here comes Bryan 'LEGO hair' Roberts again.
2006-08-17 11:24:12
227.   rsmith51
Nice of the O's to give the Yanks an out.
2006-08-17 11:24:47
228.   Travis
225 Which rookie would that be? Bruney has 2 MLB seasons under his belt.
2006-08-17 11:24:51
229.   rbj
More silver lining: anyone who has root canal scheduled for this afternoon will have something to look forward to.
2006-08-17 11:24:57
230.   Shaun P
217 Wright threw 69 pitches to get 9 batters out. Only 37 - barely 50% - for strikes. On a day when the Yanks needed 6 innings out of him.

Disgraceful isn't the half of it.

BTW, why Villone here instead of Ponson? Is Torre that scared about having Karstens start tomorrow?

2006-08-17 11:25:10
231.   rsmith51
201 Silver Lining: I may actually get some work done this afternoon.
2006-08-17 11:26:02
232.   Benjamin Kabak
Can we just DFA Wright tomorrow and call up Clippard or Hughes? I mean, would it really kill either of those two prospects to pitch in the Bronx this year instead of Wright? They can't be any worse.
2006-08-17 11:26:07
233.   yankz
230 I doubt he wants to concede the game just yet, and sending in Ponson is as white flag as it gets.
2006-08-17 11:26:10
234.   pistolpete
228 'Yankees rook'. ;-)
2006-08-17 11:26:16
235.   JL25and3
Silver lining for me: I work right down the street from the Stadium, so when there's a blowout we all go home real early to avoid the traffic.
2006-08-17 11:26:18
236.   randym77
Y'know, I think I'd have put Ponson in. Save the bullpen for the weekend. Who knows? Ponson did have one good start. Maybe he'd have pulled it off.
2006-08-17 11:26:50
237.   RIYank
230 (Why Villone instead of Ponson...)
I was wondering that. My theory: Joe figures with Ponson and Karsten, he has two chances at one okay start.

Hey, Villone gets the K. Still in this...

2006-08-17 11:26:52
238.   Shaun P
224 Already been hitting the scotch, Ron? I don't blame you, but I wouldn't give the game up as over just yet.
2006-08-17 11:27:08
239.   LI yankee
Hey everybody just got here. What did I miss? Great to see Villone pitching in the 4th inning. Excuse me while I go find a rope...
2006-08-17 11:27:38
240.   Travis
2006-08-17 11:27:58
241.   Cliff Corcoran
201 It's only the fourth inning (that's the silver lining for the offense).

Uh, Villone's only in because Joe doesn't want Ponson to start an inning, he'll pitch the rest of the game to save the pen or at least until the Yanks take the lead (silver lining for the pitching staff).

2006-08-17 11:28:04
242.   randym77
All right, now put Ponson in.
2006-08-17 11:28:27
243.   JL25and3
Third straight day for Villone. Apparently, that's one too many.
2006-08-17 11:28:38
244.   RIYank
Silver Linings getting greyer.
2006-08-17 11:28:47
245.   eephus
I was about to say this game wasn't over yet, but... never mind.
2006-08-17 11:28:48
246.   Benjamin Kabak
Well, there goes that. Thanks a lot, Ron Villone. You suck.
2006-08-17 11:28:52
247.   Ron Burgundy
Well, nice to know we'll be going into Fenway with a mere 1.5 game lead instead of a 5.5 game lead, with a wasted bullpen, and having lost 2 of 3 to the pathetic Orioles and playing below .500 for two weeks. Fucking joke.
2006-08-17 11:28:59
248.   yankz
238 Time to start passing it around.
2006-08-17 11:29:05
249.   Shaun P
231 I think that goes for many of us now.
2006-08-17 11:29:33
250.   Eirias
A walk, a steal, and a homer? Ponson couldn't have done that?
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2006-08-17 11:29:35
251.   pistolpete
I actually just had the urge to cry. I'm not even going near anything resembling a box score or a highlight until next Wednesday...
2006-08-17 11:29:46
252.   RIYank
239 You're hoping to see some really foul language on BB, right?
2006-08-17 11:30:22
253.   AbbyNormal821 it wrong of me to be naively optimistic to believe that we can make up this pathetice 5 run deficit? I think we can.
231 I concur...
2006-08-17 11:30:29
254.   RIYank
Hey, Baltimore has only three hits in four innings. The pinstriped pitching staff must be doing pretty well...
2006-08-17 11:30:35
255.   yanklifer
This really couldn't be more frustrating. the Orioles are a pile of s* and outclassing us these last two days
2006-08-17 11:30:53
256.   Benjamin Kabak
we want hughes. we want hughes.
2006-08-17 11:31:19
257.   AbbyNormal821
...i meant "pathetic" not pathetice. See? I'm not even typing right today!
2006-08-17 11:32:29
258.   RIYank
I think it's great that the Orioles have gotten exactly one hit on the field of play. Ditto for the Yankees.
Maybe there really are only Three True Outcomes after all.
2006-08-17 11:32:44
259.   Travis
Giambi swings at ball 3, then takes strike 3. Not good.
2006-08-17 11:33:15
260.   RIYank
AbbyN: maybe that's not too much to hope for.
But now try hoping that's all the runs we need. Oooh, that's hard to hope.
2006-08-17 11:34:01
261.   Zack
So, Ponson should come in now, right? I can't really see any way to justify him not coming in..the BP is more important than saving a "guy who has been there" for the evening game tomorrow...

This team needs to start driving in runs, no other way around it...

2006-08-17 11:34:10
262.   LI yankee
Was Wright getting squeezed? Or was he just all over the place?
2006-08-17 11:34:18
263.   Shaun P
253 No. This offense is capable of scoring 5 runs in a heartbeat.

At least once they get Adam Kryptonite Loewen out of the Stadium.

2006-08-17 11:34:34
264.   Cliff Corcoran
232 That's ridiculous. To begin with, Hughes has been on a 5 IP limit for a while now and will likely be shut down soon so they don't ruin his arm. I'm sure similar things apply to Clippard. Second, Wright has his bad starts and his good starts, but for a 5th starter he's been damn reliable. The Yanks would be fools to drop him.

246 Yeah, Villone and his 2.47 ERA totally suck.

Man, I know you guys like to come here to vent, that it makes you all feel better somehow, but I have the exact opposite reaction. I can't stand the negativity that emerges when the Yanks are trailing in a game. It's as if the current score tells you everything you need to know about this team. Infuriating. I'll check back later.

2006-08-17 11:35:32
265.   Ron Burgundy
Well, the offense has mailed it in. Look, we're fans, some of us (like me) are idiots. But why does the team give up in games against the ORIOLES with RODRIGO LOPEZ pitching?
2006-08-17 11:35:34
266.   Shaun P
262 All over the place starts to describe it. If you're not faint of heart, go look at the pitch by pitch log on Gameday at It was ugly.
2006-08-17 11:35:48
267.   rbj
Well, at least A-Rod broke the string of consecutive strikeouts. Seriously, if Jeter, Abreu, Giambi k in a row, I don't think it's fated for the Yankees to win.
2006-08-17 11:36:26
268.   Marcus
264 Amen. Guys: relax.
2006-08-17 11:37:14
269.   randym77
262 Wright was pretty wild by the end there. He was really keeping Jorgie on his toes. Nothing was going where it was supposed to.
2006-08-17 11:38:08
270.   Alvaro Espinoza
265 The starter tainted this game though the offensive struggles (6 K's, 6!!!) is ponderous.
2006-08-17 11:38:24
271.   Ron Burgundy
The only sliver-linings: Melky and Cano.
2006-08-17 11:38:53
272.   LI yankee
Is Joe serious? Villone again??
2006-08-17 11:39:30
273.   RIYank
Tejada spoils the runs/hits ratio.
2006-08-17 11:39:42
274.   Marcus
271 What about Damon? He's having a great game.
2006-08-17 11:39:57
275.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
We suck.

247 You forgot to note that we lost to said pathetic O's AT HOME.

Limping into Fenway. Hey look, it's a 5 game series between 2 teams who both look like they have golf vacations set for October 3rd. Whoopee.

2006-08-17 11:40:01
276.   pistolpete
Cliff, the Sox took 3 games from this team with relative ease, yet we've been struggling the same as if we're facing the 1983 version of the O's. Pathetic and frustrating as hell, IMO.
2006-08-17 11:40:15
277.   Travis
I can't believe Villone's still out there, but I guess he's taking one for the team.

Maybe Andy Phillips can pitch the last couple of innings? Because he sure hasn't done anything else the last couple of weeks.

2006-08-17 11:40:48
278.   RIYank
Yeah, I'd say Damon and Cano. Why Melky?
2006-08-17 11:41:38
279.   LI yankee
This probably means we are not seeing Ponson today
2006-08-17 11:41:54
280.   Shaun P
264 Like you said the other day Cliff, what did Yogi say again?

I've witnessed far too many comebacks by this team to think this game is over. So its been an awful first 4 innings. So what? Anyone check out the bottom 5 hitters in the Orioles lineup lately? Or their bullpen?

Let's wait until the last out before we talk anymore about the Yanks having mailed this one in.

2006-08-17 11:41:58
281.   Alvaro Espinoza
276 The Sox also got swept by the Royals but I hear what you're saying.
2006-08-17 11:42:17
282.   randym77
Andy Phillips has better numbers against Lopez than Bernie Williams.
2006-08-17 11:42:21
283.   Cliff Corcoran
276 The Sox also got swept by the Royals recently. This is baseball, the best team doesn't always win a short series.
2006-08-17 11:43:41
284.   JL25and3
277 If you can't control the damage in the game, at least you have to control the damage to the bullpen. Villone's already burned for the next couple of days, you don't want to burn out the rest of the pen.
2006-08-17 11:44:15
285.   RIYank
I'm feeling very relaxed now. Zen and the art of bantering.
2006-08-17 11:44:56
286.   Ron Burgundy
283 Unfortunately, this is extra bad because now isntead of 5.5, we're coming into Bahston 1.5 up.
2006-08-17 11:45:09
287.   Alvaro Espinoza
Also, a loss today would drop the Yanks to 3-4 on this homestand. I'd say that's disappointing.
2006-08-17 11:45:11
288.   rbj
283 There you go again, Cliff. Being the voice of reason.
2006-08-17 11:45:47
289.   pistolpete
283 Point taken.

Still, it's just about the worst possible way to head into this weekend.

2006-08-17 11:45:58
290.   Sliced Bread
I sense the Orioles who aren't tired from running the bases, are falling asleep in the dugout.

Bottom of the 5th we make our move.

2006-08-17 11:46:16
291.   Zack
So it looks like Joe will use Villone through the 5th for 2 innings total, EDSP through the 7th for 2, Dotel/Farns/Myers for the 8th and 9th? I really hope he brings in Ponson to avoid such a situation
2006-08-17 11:46:25
292.   Cliff Corcoran
286 Where does this 5.5 come from? It's also 1.5 instead of 23.5, what's your point? That the team's still in first place? Yeah, they must suck if they're still in first place.
2006-08-17 11:46:44
293.   Ron Burgundy
290 Melky should be coming up, so I think that's a possibility.
2006-08-17 11:47:15
294.   RIYank
I have a d* meeting. When I get back at 5:30, I fully expect to see this game in extra innings. Fasano will be pitching.
2006-08-17 11:47:32
295.   Alvaro Espinoza
Corey Patterson is some anomaly. Lots of talent but very painful to watch if he's on your team.
2006-08-17 11:48:14
296.   Sliced Bread
Rally time!
2006-08-17 11:48:19
297.   Zack
Oh i forgot about the new guy, he'll get an inning I assume, if not 2...but EDSP will be warming in case...
2006-08-17 11:48:45
298.   Alvaro Espinoza
294 There's a better chance of Fasano pitching than the Yanks winning by the time you get back.
2006-08-17 11:48:50
299.   mehmattski
I have returned with the following statistic:

Yankees RS MLB Rank
Total 644 4
Inning 1-6 473 2
Inning 7+ 177 14

Very interesting...

2006-08-17 11:49:18
300.   Ron Burgundy
292 Not that they suck. Just that for all the talent and OBP, they have been wasting a lot of ooportunities. The 5.5 is from the two Loewen games and the two ChiSox games. And today it's another over-6.00 ERA pitcher pitching nice and easy and striking-out every other batter. And losing 2 of 3 with a wasted bullpen and playing below .500 coming into Fenway doesn't fill me with confidence. I understand where you're coming from though.
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2006-08-17 11:49:34
301.   randym77
I know you can't win 'em all. And that in baseball, sometimes even the best gets swept by the Kansas City Royals.

I just find it puzzling that we've played so well all year with a beat-up team of kids and castoffs, and now that we've got the best lineup we've had in months...we're struggling. Why? (Other than the Curse of the Bubbino, of course. ;-)

2006-08-17 11:50:31
302.   Ron Burgundy
299 I really don't like that statistic.
2006-08-17 11:50:33
303.   LI yankee
There has to be a silver lining somewhere...maybe this will piss off the Yanks. Remember after losing big time to both Cleveland and TB, they went on a tear right afterwards?

Definitely not saying that they're out of this one though.

2006-08-17 11:50:43
304.   AbbyNormal821
290 as Moses sayeth unto Ramses "so let it be written, so let it be DONE"
Rock on with the rally (So sayeth Abby, not Moses)
2006-08-17 11:52:44
305.   Ron Burgundy
Why is this happening?
2006-08-17 11:53:16
306.   randym77
Gawd, I hope it doesn't go into extra innings. I think I'd rather just lose than play a two-games-in-one marathon.
2006-08-17 11:53:22
307.   eephus
Cliff makes some valid points. I'm going to go breathe deeply, do some more work and check in periodically in case of a late comeback. Now THAT would build some momentum heading into this weekend...
2006-08-17 11:54:03
308.   pistolpete
303 Good point. Time for Torre to 'close some doors', if you get my drift.
2006-08-17 11:54:31
309.   Cliff Corcoran
Note my comments about Lopez's K/BB ratios in the post above. This isn't unusual for him, and they did score two runs in two innings off him. One more outburst of runs and everything will fit the pattern.
2006-08-17 11:56:06
310.   AbbyNormal821
who called Cabrera getting things goin????
2006-08-17 11:56:17
311.   Cliff Corcoran
Nice call 293.
2006-08-17 11:56:57
312.   mehmattski
Man, I've never watched a game on ESPN's Gamecast before. The animation of the ball falling into play is pretty hilarious. Every fly ball goes at least three miles high, relatively. Either that or they're playing with a beach ball rather than a baseball...
2006-08-17 11:56:57
313.   Travis
Big opportunity for the Captain here.
2006-08-17 11:56:59
314.   Alvaro Espinoza
Two things have to happen for the Yanks to win this game:

(1) BAL pitching has to let us back in (some help in the form of defensive miscues would be nice as well), and
(2) Our pitching has to hold up

(1) I can see, (2)...

Me no likey our chances.

2006-08-17 11:58:30
315.   Ron Burgundy
310 Ron Burgundy.
2006-08-17 11:58:35
316.   AbbyNormal821
Lopez looks to be having an arm-fart!
2006-08-17 11:59:25
317.   Ron Burgundy
If we take the lead, it will be on something A-Rod does. I'll just put that pn the table.
2006-08-17 12:01:30
318.   Travis
Great AB. Come on Bobby.
2006-08-17 12:02:15
319.   eephus
Okay, when I said I was going to go do work? I lied. Yeah Jeter!
2006-08-17 12:05:21
320.   Ron Burgundy
2006-08-17 12:05:34
321.   randym77

But we're getting to him. It's early yet...

2006-08-17 12:05:39
322.   Travis
Lopez stayed away, away, away, and Abreu got frustrated and tried to pull one. Oh well.
2006-08-17 12:05:52
323.   rbj
2006-08-17 12:06:54
324.   AbbyNormal821
2006-08-17 12:08:01
325.   Travis
Dotel??? This is bizarre.
2006-08-17 12:09:33
326.   Ron Burgundy
Dude, Roberts, just, I dunno, up yours man.
2006-08-17 12:09:42
327.   Marcus
325 Why not? He needs to get used to game situations after being out of it so long. Better this than plopping him in with Big Papi up and bases juiced.
2006-08-17 12:11:18
328.   LI yankee
Win or lose, I actually think this game will help us

If we win, the comeback would definitely give the team huge momentum.

Losing would also be helpful, serving as a "kick in the butt".

That being said, coming back and losing in extras or something does not apply.

2006-08-17 12:13:18
329.   Ron Burgundy
328 How does getting blown out by the Orioles help?
2006-08-17 12:13:19
330.   Sliced Bread
Down 6 runs now. Got 'em right where we want 'em. Two more outs and it's go time.
2006-08-17 12:14:23
331.   rbj
Torre will get mad and chew out the team after the game. That'll get them fired up for Boston.
2006-08-17 12:14:32
332.   Travis
327 I can't see using Dotel on back-to-back days straight off an injury. I especially can't see him being used on back-to-back-to-back days, so this basically makes him unavailable tomorrow.
2006-08-17 12:15:10
333.   Max
Cliff, I hear you regarding the reflexive negativity, but my greater concern is the trend we gain people from the injuries, the performance actually seems to be getting worse.

Also, a number of people looked to his August stretch as crucial, given the difficulty of the schedule and the lack of off days. But six games against the Orioles and a seven game homestand was where we figured to gain ground, before having to play five at Fenway, 3 at Anaheim, and play the Tigers and Twins at home heading into Labor Day and beyond.

I'm not panicking, but I'm baffled and not real encouraged by the performance of the team over the last two weeks. I don't think they should DIAF, though. :-)

2006-08-17 12:15:13
334.   LI yankee
329 It may not, but get our asses whooped by Cleveland certainly seemed to get the team going for a whie
2006-08-17 12:16:06
335.   LI yankee
334 *getting
2006-08-17 12:16:43
336.   Cliff Corcoran
Do I want to know what DIAF is?
2006-08-17 12:18:54
337.   pistolpete
At all costs, get Dotel some work - if it happens to be down 6 runs to the O's, so be it. It's better for the long run.
2006-08-17 12:19:44
338.   AbbyNormal821
This will turn around - it will be like the comeback against Texas this year or the 20-11 game against Tampa Bay last year...
Must believe! Must believe!
2006-08-17 12:20:25
339.   AbbyNormal821
...i take back what I just said!!! GGGRRRRR!!!

Anything GOOD on TV tonight??

2006-08-17 12:20:30
340.   Ron Burgundy
Whatever. I'll go pop-in a DVD.
War of the Worlds or Rat Race?
2006-08-17 12:20:45
341.   Cliff Corcoran
Here's Mike Myers' tune-up for Ortiz.
2006-08-17 12:21:37
342.   randym77
336 No. ;-)

Hey, Myers is alive!

2006-08-17 12:22:01
343.   Cliff Corcoran
340 That's like chosing how you want to die. War of the Worlds, but assuming you're talking about the Cruise/Speilberg version, turn it off after the ferry scene, it's all sharply down hill from there.
2006-08-17 12:22:14
344.   Travis
If the score stays where it is, a position player should pitch the 9th. There is no reason to burn anyone in the bullpen with the score out of reach and a doubleheaader tomorrow.
2006-08-17 12:22:34
345.   Ron Burgundy
336 It's a rather crude way of saying someone is pissing you off. It's used on NoMaas, where I do most of my posting and whatever. But it's not meant literally, and it is a forum with a lot of foul language, the insult is just a venting thing.

Basically, it means Die In A Fire.

There's also FIAP: Fall In A Pit.

Crude and mean, but we don't literally want that person to die, juse that person happens to piss you off to no end.

For example, DIAF Miguel Tejada.

2006-08-17 12:23:26
346.   Sliced Bread
336 Do It For Andy? That's all I got.

Yay, 7 runs down! Won't this comeback be a boogie?!

2006-08-17 12:24:01
347.   Ron Burgundy
343 I just got the WOW DVD, haven't seen how it'll look in HD (Never got a chance to see it on HBO HD)

As for the game, just shoot me. That's it, in goes the DVD, NOW.

2006-08-17 12:24:17
348.   Travis
You've got to be kidding. There's the SportsCenter leadoff clip for tonight.
2006-08-17 12:24:33
349.   randym77
I don't believe it.

And A-Rod gets the error.

2006-08-17 12:24:33
350.   Sliced Bread
Ok, I've seen it all... high pop up to short. Jeter calls it, ball bounces off A-Rod's glove. 10-2
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2006-08-17 12:24:41
351.   Alvaro Espinoza
Disappointing, VERY disappointing...

It will be interesting to see who steps up and who steps back in the Sox series.

2006-08-17 12:25:57
352.   Sliced Bread
341 That's about right. 2 run homah.
2006-08-17 12:26:32
353.   Travis
352 At least he got the lefty to pop up.
2006-08-17 12:26:49
354.   Cliff Corcoran
Wow. Hey, at least they'll only burn through half of their bullpen on their way to this double-digit loss. Gotta love Joe's bullpen management and willingness to give young arms (Karstens) a shot.
2006-08-17 12:27:07
355.   yanklifer
A real Fing joke now
2006-08-17 12:27:17
356.   rbj
Well, now Torre can put Fasano in and give Jorge half a game off.
2006-08-17 12:27:20
357.   Zack
I much prefer FIAP, if I had to choose, though neither are great...

And I totally agree on War of the Worlds Cliff, though being that it starts off with Cruise, it can never really dig itself out of that hole to begin with...

2006-08-17 12:27:20
358.   AbbyNormal821
Crikey - what the HELL??? Screw this - I'm leaving work and going up to the Stadium and I'll freakin' pitch! Hell, this inning will probably still be happening by the time I get there!
2006-08-17 12:27:26
359.   LI yankee
351 Trust me, we are winning the Boston series. Don't be shocked if we take 4 out of 5. Torre is gonna give them some fire.
2006-08-17 12:27:45
360.   randym77
Well, I guess this means we won't be seeing much of Myers.

Though it's really not his fault. That ball should have been caught.

2006-08-17 12:29:04
361.   Alvaro Espinoza
357 Gotta love a 9-digit budget production that doesn't have an ending.

"Oh, so they just died..."

2006-08-17 12:29:08
362.   Ron Burgundy
Well, at this point, half our bullpen is gone for tommorrow's DH. Somebody PLEASE give me some reason to not feat losing 4 of 5 in Bahston. Really, I just need some positive out of this game, anything.
2006-08-17 12:29:08
363.   Sliced Bread
I hope A-Rod doesn't watch the hightlights tonight. He'll see Jeter's look of disgust.
2006-08-17 12:29:19
364.   rabid stan
354 Are you being sarcastic, Cliff?
2006-08-17 12:29:46
365.   Zack
If Joe had just put in ponson back in the 4th, or even the 5th, we would most likely be in the exact same boat, but have a much better BP situation...As it is, I am sure EDSP will somehow find his way in...
2006-08-17 12:29:57
366.   Cliff Corcoran
360 Eh, Tatis is a righty, the homer doesn't count against his LOOGY cred.
2006-08-17 12:29:58
367.   mehmattski
340 War of the Worlds was terrible. Depends on the version of Rat Race. The new one was genuinely funny, if you can believe that John Clese was actually the least funny actor in a movie.
2006-08-17 12:30:40
368.   pistolpete
Gee, I hope no one got their hopes up when they said they'd 'check in later'...
2006-08-17 12:31:44
369.   Zack
You know its bad when coversations about war of the worlds are far more entertaining than the game...I have to go read Lacan now, which at the moment seems more interesting, which is just plain scary...
2006-08-17 12:31:53
370.   Cliff Corcoran
364 Just a tad.
2006-08-17 12:31:53
371.   Max
I have the XM broadcast of the game going in the other room while I try to work in my home office, and the boos for A-Rod are drowning out every other sound in my home.
2006-08-17 12:32:00
372.   Ron Burgundy
361 Personally, I wouldn't mind driving one of those tripods to work (the only reason I like the movie is the special effects and the tripods). But yeah, the ending sucked. I know they died because they weren't immune to little bacteria and things that humans had for millenia, but how the hell did Robbie survive and end up in Bahston? That made no sense!

[NOTE: The thing looks flat-out incredible in HD]

2006-08-17 12:32:47
373.   Cliff Corcoran
361 From what I understand, that's Wells's fault.
2006-08-17 12:33:06
374.   Alvaro Espinoza
368 Let's all agree to check-out in unison.

Ready? 1... 2... 3... go!...

2006-08-17 12:33:13
375.   Coco Loco
Put Rivera, Farnsy, and Proctor on the Delta Shuttle now so Joe cannot possibly find some way to use them.
2006-08-17 12:33:16
376.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
damn...went back to work for a few minutes got caught up on a call and now THIS !

what did I miss

2006-08-17 12:34:18
377.   randym77
366 I meant as a regular bullpen pitcher. A lot of people want him to pitch more. But the last two times Joe has used him that way, the results haven't been good.
2006-08-17 12:35:26
378.   Ron Burgundy
367 The NEW one obviously. I just crack up while watching it for some reason.
2006-08-17 12:35:34
379.   C2Coke
Technically, this is the 6th inning, it's not unreachable but why have they given up?

After seeing the reply, there were some heat exchanged between Jeter and Arod's eyes after that stunt they pulled.
It went like this with only their eyes talking,

"Did I say I got it, I got it, I got it like three times?"

"Yea, but what I can I do if the ball decided it liked my glove better and than change its mind and bounced out?"

"You are paying for dinner for the whole team while we stay in Boston."

"Well, that's one thing I can easily do."

2006-08-17 12:35:56
380.   randym77
Looks like Andy Phillips is sprouting a caterpillar, too.
2006-08-17 12:37:23
381.   Cliff Corcoran
Subs in!
2006-08-17 12:37:36
382.   C2Coke
379 This game is so bad, it caused me to lose my ability to type properly.
2006-08-17 12:37:45
383.   Sliced Bread
Ah, now I get it. These are the bizarro, moustachioed Yankees. The REAL Yankees are enjoying the day off in Boston.
2006-08-17 12:37:49
384.   Alvaro Espinoza
372 Yeah, I didn't care for the movie either. It got on my nerves in the first 10 minutes when a divorced dad in charge of his kids for the weekend leaves them unattended and proceeds to stand around like a dope for several minutes after it was readily apparent that something REALLY bad was about to go down. Crazy Tim Robbins didn't help either.
2006-08-17 12:37:50
385.   Zack
Maybe the whole problem is the 'stache thing. I say, shave the 'staches and lets get back to winning!
2006-08-17 12:39:13
386.   randym77
385 I agree. The 'staches haven't been good luck.

And they're ugly as sin.

2006-08-17 12:39:47
387.   Sliced Bread
Slight change of plans:

7th inning stretch, 11 run rally, shave, shower, head to Boston. Got it? Break!

2006-08-17 12:40:40
388.   Cliff Corcoran
Yup, the verdict is in on the mustachioed Yankees: guilty.
2006-08-17 12:40:57
389.   kylepetterson
I see by the substitutions that we've pretty much given up?
2006-08-17 12:41:00
390.   pistolpete
Possible the team has a little touch of the 'Looking Past this Series to the Next One in Boston' flu?
2006-08-17 12:41:04
391.   C2Coke
383 Sliced, you are good!
2006-08-17 12:41:14
392.   rbj
1 2 3 inning with the subs in? Start the subs! (though it's probably more like the O's hitters are tuckered out)
2006-08-17 12:41:24
393.   Coco Loco
Damon has a mustache, too. That can't be the curse unless it is only a team-wide thing.
2006-08-17 12:42:08
394.   Ron Burgundy
384 Honestly, for WOW, if they just told me how the HELL Robbie got out alive out of a fireball where everyone and everything died and ended up in Bahston, it would've been better. And really, more special effects and less of the actors would've helped. I really would like one of those tripods for Christmas and run it through Bahston. As for Tim Robbins, that was a bad role. That dude was totally psycho. Though I wonder, when the three-legged freaks were checking down in the basement, how did 5-6 Tom Cruise wrestle the shot-gun away from 6-2 Tim Robbins?
2006-08-17 12:43:25
395.   Travis
The Orioles infield defense has apparently been replaced by the 1970 version without anyone noticing.
2006-08-17 12:45:39
396.   pistolpete
Note: My fantasy team's ERA for the week: 7.52 :-O
2006-08-17 12:45:58
397.   randym77
Wow. Bernie is only one single away from Gehrig on the Yankees all-time singles list.
2006-08-17 12:46:12
398.   Adam B
This game has been as ugly as Nancy Newman's face. Torre's inability to manage a major league bullpen in a non-typical situation once again came up today. Villone is overworked.. so let's go to him in a blowout where we need innings. Dotel couldn't pitch back to back games during his rehab stint, so why not try it today. We got two games tomorrow? No big deal, we'll just fuse a bionic arm in place of their arms. We could use Ponson today and try a kid tomorrow? Why do that? Why go to the youth? They've helped us win? You mean it's not that Bernie guy winning us games?

Of course, no one even suggested the Yankees using Philip Hughes tomorrow, despite it being 4 days rest for him. I think having him come up and show Boston some of the stuff he'll be showing them over the next few years would've been exciting. He has to be a better chance to win than Ponson is.

2006-08-17 12:46:34
399.   eephus
Hey guys, how's that comeback go- ... ummm. Hmmm. Never mind.
2006-08-17 12:47:20
400.   Sliced Bread
This just in from the Yankee Stadium Jumbotron:

Bernie Williams just surpassed Alex Rodriguez on the New York Yankees meanignless late-innings hit list.


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2006-08-17 12:47:36
401.   C2Coke
395 The Yankees are playing the Orioles?? really? Who is that pitcher? He looks like he can get a Cy Young in his career.
2006-08-17 12:49:33
402.   randym77
I can't believe Lopez is still in the game. :-P

12-2. How did this happen?

2006-08-17 12:49:34
403.   C2Coke
400 Bernie shoulda just strike out like Damon, why waste anymore energy?
2006-08-17 12:50:16
404.   Alvaro Espinoza
394 Robbin's character was fine. But he got way too much screen time. That entire sequence shood have been cut in half. And I'm not a special effects freak but I would have liked to have seen those 'pods creating more carnage. And that quaint brownstone-lined street in Beantown was left largely intact. Why?

At the end of the day I think the mistake was going for a happy ending (btw - I thought "Collateral" suffered from the same poorly designed ending). How bad-ass would it be for the bad guy(s) to win? That would be some cold sh*t...

Can Torre forfeit?

2006-08-17 12:50:20
405.   LI yankee
Wow Damon is a triple away from the cycle...

Was that not right? Was I not supposed to do that?

2006-08-17 12:50:25
406.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
this is depressing to say the least....

....5 games in 4 days with a dead pen

....most expensive player in the game taking a year off...

....the ace of the Aruban National Team starting game 2 tomorrow

....lead whittled down to 1.5 from 3 in 36 hours of baseball against a putrid team

2006-08-17 12:50:40
407.   randym77
Now that's interesting. That botched popup has been switched from an error for A-Rod to an error for Jeter.
2006-08-17 12:51:42
408.   C2Coke
402 The bizarro, moustachioed Yankees are playing the 1970 Orioles.

So Myers is making up for the pitch count that shoulda happen in the past monthS.

2006-08-17 12:51:45
409.   Travis
FWIW, Mike Myers' career high in IP for a game is 2-1/3. Looks like he'll at least tie that today.
2006-08-17 12:52:21
410.   AbbyNormal821
...maybe it's an umpire conspiracy. Maybe they feel bad for Lopez so they're just giving him good strike calls.

Yeah...that's it...a CONSPIRACY I tell you!!
(I gotta go with something, it just can't be something so simple as our team SUCKING majorly today!!!)

A giant F-bomb on all the umpires!!

2006-08-17 12:52:37
411.   randym77
Some nice plays by the scrubs on D, anyway.
2006-08-17 12:53:11
412.   Coco Loco
407 Very odd. ARod stepped in front of Jeter and that prevented Jeter from fielding. Indeed, it was Arod who actually flubbed the catch (by closing his glove too early) than Jeter.
2006-08-17 12:53:17
413.   Sliced Bread
407 The official scorer must have missed the part where Jeter is standing under the ball shouting "I got it."
2006-08-17 12:53:39
414.   Ron Burgundy
404 I just wanted to know HOW he ended up fine and dandy in Bahston. They way they made it, it was like, what the hell, he's alive?

And I agree on the tripod thing. Add 15 minutes of them making things "light up like Horoshima" and you got something. They just showed the tripods standing around a lot. The only time we saw them tear ass was in the beginning.

2006-08-17 12:53:41
415.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
Myers is still on this team ?
2006-08-17 12:54:38
416.   randym77
412 Kaat speculated that Jeter asked them to swithc it.
2006-08-17 12:54:40
417.   C2Coke
407 Heck, they should charge Jeter and Arod each an error.
2006-08-17 12:55:24
418.   Ron Burgundy
417 Co-Signed.
2006-08-17 12:55:51
419.   Sliced Bread
416 Captain says "Put it on my tab." Whatta guy!
2006-08-17 12:56:22
420.   Travis
407 In Boston, that would have been a hit for Gibbons.
2006-08-17 12:57:10
421.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
Nick Green and Andy Phillips...someone has to go and another arm is brought up...Colome

How about Fasano heading out and Wilson gets his old catchers mitt out of the closet...

They way Torre chews through relievers they need more fresh meat

The ironic thing will be Myers getting tired and giving up a bomb to Ortiz that lands in Maine after taking a month long paid holiday

2006-08-17 12:57:25
422.   pistolpete
Damn, why didn't Torre think of bringing in Myers back in the 4th?! Think of all the needless suffering...
2006-08-17 12:58:45
423.   Alvaro Espinoza
More ammunition for the "team error" stat a la 3 guys standing around watching a routine pop-up fall in.
2006-08-17 13:01:12
424.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
this just pisses me off....3 out of 4 to this bum squad....

The offense better wake up fast as they will need some runs this weekend with the bullpen being shot to pieces heading in....

2006-08-17 13:03:07
425.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
where was Bruney in all of this...why wait until the 9th....when the game got ugly he should have grabbed his mop and janitors uniform
2006-08-17 13:04:00
426.   C2Coke
They didn't even bother to photoshop Brian Bruney's picture on Gameday.
2006-08-17 13:06:21
427.   Sliced Bread
This is a terrible loss. Yanks give ground to Boston while the Sox are enjoying the afternoon off at home.

Silver Lining: Mo is well-rested after this dumbass series.

2006-08-17 13:07:17
428.   yankz
I'm blaming the moustaches.
2006-08-17 13:07:37
429.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
this guy needs to stay in the pen and Myers can go on another vacation perhaps to Columbus until we play the Sox again....

any good news on Matsui or Sheff ? Matsui is going to get checked out tomorrow ?

2006-08-17 13:08:18
430.   randym77
Well, Bruney's been Yankee-ized. He doesn't look like an Animal House refugee any more.
2006-08-17 13:08:47
431.   pistolpete
424 There were 4 games?
2006-08-17 13:09:02
432.   C2Coke
Blue Jays Bullpen trend: shoulder length hair.

Yankees Bullpen tread: Knee high sox.

2006-08-17 13:10:39
433.   C2Coke
429 Sheff swinging under water was, believe or not, considered good news. With Matsui at this point, no bad news is good news.
2006-08-17 13:12:29
434.   randym77
All the Columbus Clippers players wear their pants high. Maybe they require it. Even Bubba's wearing the high socks again. Bruney's probably used to it.

Speaking of the Clippers...they've been on a tear since the Yanks gave them their players back. And leading the team in slugging is...Bubba Crosby. o_O

2006-08-17 13:12:57
435.   kylepetterson
Looks like it's time for some sweet chen music.
2006-08-17 13:12:59
436.   Marcus
If the Yanks end up not scoring any runs off Ortiz or Chen, you know it's just not their day.
2006-08-17 13:15:17
437.   Sliced Bread
Anybody know what this "Snakes On A Plane" is about?
2006-08-17 13:15:21
438.   pistolpete
I think we need Bubba back for the weekend. Get that good karma flowing again..
2006-08-17 13:16:37
439.   Alvaro Espinoza
437 The title tells you all you need to know.
2006-08-17 13:18:22
440.   C2Coke
434 That's funny. I like Bubba but he can't stay in the MLB just because he can run fast and defense decently. I hope he's enjoying his time playing at his level and help the Clippers to win.
2006-08-17 13:18:50
441.   Sliced Bread
439 It sounds a little too scary for Pavano. He should probably stick with "The Ant Bully" for tomorrow's matinee.
2006-08-17 13:19:47
442.   Cliff Corcoran
437 That's funny, assuming you were kidding.

434 I heard Bubba only switched to the low pants because of a leg injury that required a brace or something (how's that for lazy reporting) and he was just waiting to get the damn thing off so he could go with the high sox again.

2006-08-17 13:20:10
443.   Marcus
Glorious ending to a spectacular game. Zappa puts up a fight, but Chen is too much for him.
2006-08-17 13:20:21
444.   randym77
And Cy Chen mows 'em down.
2006-08-17 13:20:34
445.   rbj
Bruney? Who is this guy? Did they call him up mid game? I follow the transaction section in the newspaper, never saw his name before.
2006-08-17 13:20:37
446.   Cliff Corcoran
Well, glad that's over with.
2006-08-17 13:21:56
447.   Sliced Bread
442 Thanks, I was.

I love that title. I heard they were going to change it to something else but decided to stick with it.

2006-08-17 13:22:47
448.   Cliff Corcoran
445 Check the beginning of this thread, specifically 14 and 20.
2006-08-17 13:23:03
449.   C2Coke
437 Samuel L. Jackson's movie. And it's literally snacks on a plane...

On another note,

Dear Yankees:

Can we please have the real players back starting tomorrow?? Pretty pretty please?

Fans who are hurting watching all the sloppy games.

2006-08-17 13:24:07
450.   randym77
442 Man, that must have been some injury. He's been wearing long pants since about the middle of last season.
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2006-08-17 13:24:39
451.   Cliff Corcoran
447 Yeah, it was going to be Flight 2194 or something like that. Sam Jackson, who signed on based on the title alone, protested and supposedly played a part in the on-line campaign to make the movie the sort of shameless and over the top thing it should be. I'm afraid it's been over exposed at this point, however. I'll be interested to know if it can survive the hype and be a legitimate so-bad-it's-good film or if it's just bad.
2006-08-17 13:25:02
452.   Sliced Bread
They were going to change it from "Snakes On A Plane," which was the working title, to something lame like "Pacific Air 121"

Samuel L. helped put the kabosh on that.

2006-08-17 13:25:26
453.   pistolpete
Speaking of 'Snakes on a Plane', has anyone received the pre-recorded voicemail from Sam Jackson. Pretty clever marketing, I must admit. Almost makes me want to check it out.

If it had been released tonight, after this debacle, chances are good I'd want to go.

2006-08-17 13:26:47
454.   Sliced Bread
451 I'm afriad it can't possibly live up to the hype and perfect title.
2006-08-17 13:27:02
455.   randym77
I want to see "Snakes on a Plane" just because of the title!
2006-08-17 13:28:25
456.   C2Coke
451 But I thought the title is intriguing enough for me to check it out. I think the title at least has bought them a nice opening weekend box office.
2006-08-17 13:29:55
457.   Sliced Bread
456 No question it's going to open HUGE, and there will be at least two sequels.

Snakes On A Bus
Snakes On A Cruise Ship
Snakes On Yawkey Way

2006-08-17 13:33:01
458.   Cliff Corcoran
453 I sent one to a coworker. I don't think he's gotten it yet, though. I wouldn't put anyone's personal phone # in that thing though.

The thing about Snakes is that they didn't screen it for anyone (critics, hosts of shows on which Jackson is promoting the film, no one), so they're banking on that big hype-driven opening weekend and hope that a good showing on the Box Office top-10 will be self-perpetuating. It's total merch, has nothing to do with whether or not the movie is entertaining. It's very meta, really, especially given the influence of the "audience" during production via the internet. Given what I do here, you'd think I'd be more interested in all that, but I'm not.

2006-08-17 13:34:00
459.   C2Coke
457 Now how about
Bears on a Plane and Alligators on a Plane?

Cliff, I saw your other post in the previous thread regarding Wang. I agree with you that Wang may be tired going on his longest working year. But I think an angry man will do the team some good. And after today, we might just landed ourselves a whole team of angry men, which is awesome!

2006-08-17 13:36:26
460.   Alvaro Espinoza
Speaking of S.O.A.P., I read this a while back and thought it was funny:

2006-08-17 13:36:27
461.   randym77
Hey, where was Michael Kay today? He was scheduled to announce this game, but didn't.
2006-08-17 13:36:58
462.   Schteeve
2006-08-17 13:38:50
463.   pistolpete
458 >> I wouldn't put anyone's personal phone # in that thing though. >>

Oh well, guess my brother's going to have deal with the consequences. :-D

2006-08-17 13:39:51
464.   Schteeve
Re: SoaP, what's that old chestnut, "No one ever went broke (or lost an election) underestimating the intelligence of the American public." Sounds about right. b
2006-08-17 13:41:02
465.   randym77
460 How about, you turn on the TV, see the score is Yankees 2, Orioles 12. "Crap! Snakes on a plane!"
2006-08-17 13:42:23
466.   Alvaro Espinoza
465 See??? ranym77's got the hang of it! And I think it's a lot moe fun than DIAF or FIAP.
2006-08-17 13:43:06
467.   Cliff Corcoran
462 Hardly, here are some other candidates:

2004 ALCS
2002 ALDS
1981 World Series
2005 three-game sweep by the Royals

2006-08-17 13:44:46
468.   Cliff Corcoran
466 Agreed. Except they don't serve the same purpose.
2006-08-17 13:45:08
469.   Alvaro Espinoza
Another Example: Verlander is a shoe-in for the Cy Young but walks 7 Red Sox over 6 innings. Sh*t, snakes on a plane!
2006-08-17 13:46:06
470.   pistolpete
467 Based on the endings:

1995 ALDS
2001 WS

2006-08-17 13:50:08
471.   Cliff Corcoran
470 See, I ruled those out because those two comeback wins in 2001 were such positive experiences. Same thing for the first two games in 1995, the first Yankee playoff games in 14 years, at the Stadium no less, with Donnie going deep and Leyritz hitting that game-winner. The good balances the bad in those.
2006-08-17 13:50:56
472.   Ron Burgundy
467 and 470 I'd go with all 6 of those, and add the 1997 ALCS and the 2003 World-Series.

Damn, lead down to 1.5, Snakes on a Plane!

2006-08-17 13:53:42
473.   pistolpete
471 I did preface it by saying, "based on the endings", but you're right - the highs certain balanced the lows. If only the 'lows' didn't translate into going home without a ring.

I was at 2001 Game 5, and I can't remember ever seeing a more emotionally-charged ball game in my entire life.

2006-08-17 13:53:57
474.   Max
Better hope Wang is on and Lester and Johnson aren't for tomorrow's doubleheader. Realistically, a split is the best we can hope for, and then the tenor of the division race will be determined by the last three games.

What a stinker. O's 9 hits, 12 runs...crazy.

2006-08-17 13:54:25
475.   pistolpete
473 'certainly' balanced the lows. (Note to self: leave the 'preview' box checked ALL the time!)
2006-08-17 13:56:13
476.   Travis
467 470 I'd also add the September, 1985 series at home against the Blue Jays.
2006-08-17 13:56:34
477.   randym77
They asked Jeter about the popup after the game. He said he thought A-Rod had caught it. He asked Alex, "You got it?" A-Rod said, "No, do you?" Jeter thought he was kidding, and started walking off the field. That's when he noticed the ball was on the ground.

A-Rod was camped out under the ball, and I can't help wondering if Jeter would have left him to it if was anyone else. Maybe he didn't trust A-Rod with a fly ball.

2006-08-17 13:57:40
478.   Cliff Corcoran
472 See that's no good, because then you're just naming all the series they lost and "nauseating" loses it's meaning because it just becomes a synonym for "lost".
2006-08-17 13:59:56
479.   Cliff Corcoran
476 Better. Or the 1988 series against the Tigers.
2006-08-17 14:02:24
480.   Cliff Corcoran
2006-08-17 14:07:47
481.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
2004 ACLS was the most damaging event in my life to date outside of a family or friend dying....

It has altered the universe in a way that will not be fully comprehended for centuries...

I have lived through 6 WS titles and then next one will be the sweetest as it will help to wash the stench of 04 off...

Also I find myself praying for a team to go down 0-3 and comeback to win it

2006-08-17 14:10:05
482.   randym77
2006-08-17 14:12:35
483.   C2Coke
477 "He asked Alex, "You got it?" A-Rod said, "No, do you?" Jeter thought he was kidding, and started walking off the field."

That's the conversation between the highest paid players in baseball today? Hilarious.

2006-08-17 14:20:44
484.   randym77
Torre said Andy Phillips will probably be going on the DL.

How conveeeenient...

2006-08-17 14:21:57
485.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
480....that is classic

I wonder if Pavano asked Chien how he wiped his ass without winding up on the DL for the season...for a friend of his

2006-08-17 14:22:43
486.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan
480....that is classic

I wonder if Pavano asked Chien how he wiped his ass without winding up on the DL for the season...for a friend of his

2006-08-17 14:25:05
487.   Travis
484 With what? Splinters from sitting on the bench?
2006-08-17 14:25:29
488.   Alvaro Espinoza
480 Heh!
2006-08-17 14:25:48
489.   randym77
487 He strained his ribcage batting today. Or so they claim.
2006-08-17 14:27:40
490.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan

that is they can call up Jesus Colome...because as Pat Robertson will tell you "Jesus Saves" or at least pumps 100 mph gas without any control...

2006-08-17 14:30:54
491.   Kirribilli Yankee Fan

I heard he shared a cab with
Carl "The Afflicted" Pavano and is done for the year....

2006-08-17 14:34:38
492.   LI yankee
I wonder who they'll bring up now. Bubba or Guiel I'm guessing.
2006-08-17 14:38:24
493.   randym77
492 I'm betting on another pitcher.
2006-08-17 14:39:48
494.   LI yankee
493 14 pitchers?? Actually that probably makes more sense considering we're gonna use all of them this weekend
2006-08-17 14:42:13
495.   randym77
494 It would only be 13 pitchers. Someone will have to be sent down when Lidle returns on Sunday. (Likely Bruney.)

Maybe after this weekend is over, they'll send down a pitcher and call up a position player.

2006-08-17 15:03:05
496.   kylepetterson
495 "Maybe after this weekend is over, they'll send down a pitcher"

Ponson? Please? Soon?

2006-08-17 15:06:26
497.   randym77
496 LOL! I'm pretty sure he's out of options. It's probably going to be some kid like Karstens or Beam.
2006-08-17 15:15:27
498.   YankeeInMichigan
467 How about the 1980 ALCS, punctuated by the firing of Dick Howser?
2006-08-17 16:15:53
499.   randym77
Well, Aaron Small is starting in Columbus tonight. I guess he's not being called up.
2006-08-17 16:29:09
500.   kylepetterson
Do we really have no better option for tomorrow night?
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2006-08-17 16:49:32
501.   randym77
Better than Ponson? Maybe Karstens. I bet he gets called up, if Andy goes on the DL. If only for the weekend.

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