Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Saving Face
2006-08-05 21:13
by Cliff Corcoran

Like Randy Johnson the night before, Mike Mussina wasn't sharp yesterday afternoon, but still managed to keep his team in the game, limiting the Orioles to three runs in his five innings of work. Not that it mattered much. Rookie Adam Loewen, backed by some great defense by Brandon Fahey and Miguel Tejada, allowed just one hit, a first-inning single by Bobby Abreu, while striking out eight in 6 1/3 innings, and relievers Todd Williams and LaTroy Hawkins set the last eight Yanks down in order. It was the first time the Yankees had been limited to one-hit since July 16, 2004 when Mike Maroth pitched a complete-game one-hit shutout against the Yankees in Comerica Park. In that case the one hit was a Gary Sheffield double and the Yankees managed just three other base runners on an error and a pair of walks, one of which was erased by a double play. Yesterday the Yanks did a tad better, drawing five walks off Loewen such that each of the top six men in the order reached base exactly once (though, again, one was erased by a twin killing).

As surprising as that performance was given how well the team has been playing of late, winning nine of their previous ten and their first four games following the trading deadline, it was the fourth time this season the team failed to win its sixth consecutive game. Ron Villone, pitching in his fourth game in the last five days, gave up a pair of runs in the sixth to run the final score to 5-0, just the second time this season that the Yankees have been shutout.

The only worthwhile thing that came out of yesterday's game was that Jose Veras finally made his major league debut, pitching two hitless innings in which he allowed just one base runner, a lead-off walk to Jay Gibbons in the eighth that was erased by a double play. That said, Veras had some control issues, failing to record a single K despite his impressive minor league rates and throwing just 46 percent of his pitches for strikes.

Today the Yankees look to avoid what would be a humiliating series loss to the Orioles by sending Jaret Wright to the mound to face Rodrigo Lopez. Wright is coming off throwing a season-high 103 pitches in his last outing, but also has a fairly impressive line over his last two starts: 10 1/3 IP, 10 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 0 HR, 2 BB, 8 K. Despite being a fly ball pitcher, Wright has allowed just four home runs all season, that's one every 22 2/3 innings, a lower home run rate than Chien-Ming Wang's.

As for Lopez, he's been even better over his last two starts: 13 1/3 IP, 15 H, 2 R, 0 HR, 1 BB, 10 K. Of course one of those games came against the Royals, but in his last outing, against the Mariners, Lopez pitched 7 2/3 scoreless innings and needed just 82 pitches to do it. Of course, the Yankees handled Lopez well back in early June (four runs on seven hits in 6 2/3 on their way to an 11-4 win), two starts after he had a very similar outing against Seattle.

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2006-08-05 22:23:04
1.   SF Yanks
Pathetic game, really. Is Loewen a decent pitcher, or did the Yanks just take the day off? It would be nice to see one of those 10-11 game win streaks.
2006-08-05 22:30:29
2.   C2Coke
Saving face is right. The Yanks and young pitchers this year are just simply non-reactive chemistry.

1 Loewen definitely seems more than decent today...

Let's just say, again, since the Sox also lost, we are still keeping pace with them.

2006-08-05 22:39:43
3.   Cliff Corcoran
Loewen's actually a solid prospect. He pitched 3 2/3 scoreless innings in Canada's upset of the US in the WBC and was dominant in his three AAA starts this year after a strong showing in AA.
2006-08-06 00:32:32
4.   BklynBmr
Amazing how a few good friends, endless helpings of awesome Thai food, and a cracklin' cold Singha or two (OK, maybe five) can help ease the pain of a highly frustrating game. Not to mention a cloudless San Francisco night sky, no wind, no fog and a big ass 3/4 moon lighting up the City. Great therapy.

Look for a breakout by the bats today. They can't afford to let Loewen's gem put them in a funk and my guess is they won't.

Go Wright. Go bats. Go Yanks!

2006-08-06 03:01:08
5.   randym77
As Flash pointed out, it's not unusual for the Yanks to be flummoxed by a rookie pitcher, but it is unusual for them to be one-hit by a guy throwing only fastballs. :-P

They've looked pretty flat to me the last couple of days. Lucky to win Friday, completely out of it Saturday. Against a team with a losing record, fer crissakes. I guess even this lineup can have bad days.

2006-08-06 05:57:31
6.   Dimelo
I find it funny reading some of the game comments. Why is it so hard for Yankee fans to accept defeat? I mean, it's not easy for any team to 162 - 0.
2006-08-06 06:55:26
7.   Dan M
Let's hope Torre made crybaby Giambi watch the highlights of Ortiz's bunt, so that he'll actually do something about the shift rather than just giving Brian Roberts the finger.
2006-08-06 07:43:35
8.   pistolpete
Wright isn't exactly the guy I'd be sending out to get the 'rubber game' of a series such as this has been so far, but let's hope for another laborious 'gem' from Mr. Wright, and maybe the bats will awaken as well.
2006-08-06 07:54:17
9.   Ron Burgundy
Alright, today is the day the offense will wake up and actually kill one of these absolutely horrible O's pitchers. First they barely show signs of life against Chen and then they get humiliated by a Canadien with an ERA over 6.00. Since they have seen Lopez many times, I believe today they will score a lot of runs. Seriously, you can't just have an offense like that getting shut down by some of the worst pitchers in all of baseball for three straight days, it doesn't make sense. We'll do good today. And let's hope the useless Devil Rays beat the Sawx like a drum.
2006-08-06 08:12:04
10.   C2Coke
6 I noticed it too, however, it seems much easier to take blow-out losses than closer ones against young pitchers the Yanks haven't seen before.

I hope Wright can try and spread out his pitch counts throughout innings today. With 103 pitches, Wang could've finished the game!

2006-08-06 08:13:19
11.   yankz
2006-08-06 08:54:50
12.   Ron Burgundy
11 ???
2006-08-06 09:04:28
13.   Simone
I can't believe that I'm actually mentioning this, but I read in Newsday or one of the other NY papers that Pavano has been looking good. The Yankees are daring to hope that he will pitch this season. It would be great if he could help out this season, but I know better than to have too much hope.
2006-08-06 09:10:54
14.   seamus
13 he can take ponson's place... :)

The problem is that even if Pavano does make it back, he'll be of limited value to us (particularly since he probably won't have much rehab in him and we'll not know what to expect).

2006-08-06 09:18:36
15.   randym77
Johnny Damon DH
Derek Jeter SS
Bobby Abreu RF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Jason Giambi 1B
Bernie Williams CF
Melky Cabrera LF
Sal Fasano C
Nick Green 2B

Nick Green? Sal Fasano? Bernie Williams? I thought those days were behind us...

2006-08-06 09:20:43
16.   seamus
YIKES! Do we have to rest Damon on the SAME day that we rest Posada? Is this really necessary? We're already missing our 2Bman.
2006-08-06 09:22:09
17.   randym77
I'm wondering if Damon is injured or something. Seems an odd day to start Bernie. Fasano in, Cairo out, and a righty on the mound.
2006-08-06 09:24:23
18.   seamus
and Damon has not been looking all that great at the plate.
2006-08-06 09:32:36
19.   randym77
18 Well, maybe that's why Joe decided to DH him.

Still...Bernie in CF with Wright on the mound makes me a bit nervous.

2006-08-06 09:57:46
20.   seamus
oh crap, tampa's starter today has an ERA over 14.00!!!
2006-08-06 10:12:44
21.   Dan M
14 Sadly, I think Pavano would take Randy Johnson's place. He and Cairo are fighting to the death for The Worst Yankee of the Year.
2006-08-06 10:14:37
22.   seamus
21 Rj has not been the Unit, but he is not at all fighting for worst yankee of the year.
2006-08-06 10:25:19
23.   Max
21 This is pretty wild overstatement...RJ has been frustrating and is dealing with age, but there is no way I put him as "worst" or anything close.

With that said, it brings to light the reality that we have two "aces" (and one of them has never pitched as many innings as he has this year), and 3 fourth/fifth starters. Our bullpen has really been a lifesaver this year, though the starter situation means the relievers may be on life support by the end of September.

Which makes it all the more imperative that the new look offense delivers (runs, that is, not the stink bomb they produced yesterday).

2006-08-06 10:28:28
24.   3rd gen yankee fan
"Yankee Stadium south"? No I don't think so.
2006-08-06 10:32:36
25.   Eirias
Wells came through in the clutch for us yesterday.
2006-08-06 10:34:20
26.   randym77
21 Cairo? I think that's really unfair. He's been a pretty solid backup for us. Defense is good, and hits well in the clutch.

FWIW, the midseason report from RLYW showed the "worst Yankees" (thus far) were Aaron Small, Shawn Chacon, and Bernie Williams, at least when it came to the number of runs they cost us.

2006-08-06 10:41:54
27.   3rd gen yankee fan
2006-08-06 10:42:10
28.   claybeez
6 Totally concur. Yesterday's game thread was unbearable. The name calling and insulting of players is just not my thing.
2006-08-06 10:42:56
29.   Max
20 I think we got our gift from Tampa yesterday. It's too much to expect they'll give the Sox a game...this isn't last year's Rays. Baldelli and Kazmir hurt, Lugo shipped off, a particularly dismal Royals castoff (even by Royals standards) pitching today...unlikely we'll get any more help.
2006-08-06 10:43:05
30.   randym77
Well, I guess Derek's shoulder is okay...

BTW, he admitted he was out yesterday. He never touched the bag. Mora fell on him and stopped his slide. He says he was "Down by contact."

2006-08-06 10:44:05
31.   Simone
Good to see the Captain isn't too injured.
2006-08-06 10:46:18
32.   randym77
The shift comes back to bite the Orioles, as Abreu steals 2B and there's no one there to throw the ball to.
2006-08-06 10:52:03
33.   Jeteupthemiddle
Well that was a Bernie double.
2006-08-06 10:52:39
34.   Ron Burgundy
Nice to see Jeets do his thing.

Joe, sometimes you just make me wonna murder you. We haven't won the series yet asshole, so why are you already doing your sugnature "house money" line-up? Green, Fasano, AND Bernie in the line-up? And Bernie in CENTERFIELD?!

(Bernie in Centerfield pays off right away as Roberts gets an easy double on what is a single even for him if anybody else is out there)

2006-08-06 10:53:37
35.   randym77
And Paul O'Neill says it's a "Bernie double," in so many words.
2006-08-06 10:56:14
36.   SF Yanks
Sometimes watching Jaret pitch can be fun... notice I said "sometimes"
2006-08-06 10:57:55
37.   seamus
nice job Jaret!
2006-08-06 11:01:13
38.   Jeteupthemiddle
Villone warming.

oh man.

2006-08-06 11:02:49
39.   SF Yanks
And Cy Lopez deals.
2006-08-06 11:03:11
40.   SF Yanks
38 Are you serious?
2006-08-06 11:03:17
41.   Ron Burgundy
This Won't End Well...
2006-08-06 11:03:28
42.   seamus
38 villone is warming? Or are you just kidding?
2006-08-06 11:04:22
43.   Jeteupthemiddle
He was throwing in the bullpen.

Though, Wright is back out.

2006-08-06 11:04:44
44.   Ron Burgundy
Hmm, I guess Wright is OK. Villone sat down in the 'pen and Wright stays in.
2006-08-06 11:06:52
45.   seamus
why would villone be throwing anyway? If Wright was injured, wouldn't Ponson be the obvious guy?
2006-08-06 11:10:58
46.   mehmattski
Millar needs to review the meaning of strike zone. That pitch was right down the middle.
2006-08-06 11:11:52
47.   SF Yanks
Wright actually has some good stuff
2006-08-06 11:12:21
48.   BklynBmr
Palmer is batting 1.000 again. Not an inning goes by without mention of someone's contract...
2006-08-06 11:12:26
49.   augustus
These umps are killing me.
2006-08-06 11:12:33
50.   seamus
was that serious Deja Vu or what?
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2006-08-06 11:13:08
51.   SF Yanks
And I don't mean as in just today, but overall his pitches have some nice mocement.
2006-08-06 11:15:04
52.   mehmattski
JD! Good thing you don't have to hit home runs with your feet.
2006-08-06 11:15:07
53.   Jeteupthemiddle

Damon's power has been WAY better than advertised...or at least me anyway.

2006-08-06 11:17:25
54.   SF Yanks
Abreu's on fire
2006-08-06 11:18:22
55.   3rd gen yankee fan
Abreu, the doubles machine!
2006-08-06 11:19:59
56.   Ron Burgundy
Johnny Boom.
Bobby Bang.
A-Rod boom, but another banging out. Damn, his luck is CRAP.
Giambi with big RBI double.
2006-08-06 11:20:05
57.   mehmattski
Any idea why the Red Sox are starting perrenial AAA All-Star Corky Miller at catcher today? Did they bring him in with a police escort for the game?

Can the Yankees hit more booming fly balls this inning? Please?

2006-08-06 11:20:19
58.   augustus
Abreu has definitely picked it up a notch (or two) since the trade.
2006-08-06 11:21:31
59.   seamus
bernie and his 0-16 lifetime against Lopez. I definitely disagree with Bernie playing today.
2006-08-06 11:21:40
60.   Jeteupthemiddle
I feel the need to point out that the Devil Rays clean up hitter is batting .207 for the season.

Though he is on fire in August batting .211.

2006-08-06 11:23:14
61.   seamus
anyone notice how Abreu squares around on the first pitch about 40% of the time - but hasn't bunted once (even on strikes). I could understand that if you actually bunted sometimes it would draw infielders in, but since he doesn't...

Not that I'm complaining with his performance, cause I'm definitely not!

2006-08-06 11:24:03
62.   Max
The new guy doing his job and then some today. The old guy looking really, really bad so far.
2006-08-06 11:24:11
63.   Ron Burgundy
60 No matter how big of douchebags Dukes and Young may be, the Devil Rays might as well just call them up already so they at least have an MLB team...
2006-08-06 11:29:09
64.   monkeypants
Does Bernie in CF make us re-think the thread/discussion the other day about DFAing Bubba or Andy? Torre obviously can't be trusted with Bernie on the roster to use him properly, so now Bernie has become the back OF in center AND right. Is he the defensive replacement too, in Torre's mind?
2006-08-06 11:30:54
65.   mehmattski
60 How dare you criticize Joe and his lineup construction, he has four rings!!!! Oh wait, wrong Joe.

I'm happy to see BJ Upton up in the majors finally. Bossman Junior had two errors last night, but he was way outclassing the AAA pitching.

Maybe Jaret only pitches well when there are men on third. Perhaps he should IBB the first man and balk twice every inning.

DIAF Ortiz

2006-08-06 11:31:42
66.   seamus
64 I have no idea why we didn't cut Phillips loose. He clearly has no role on this team anymore. Wilson is clearly the backup 1Bman and takes over Andy's role and does it better.

I wouldn't mind them starting Bernie when Wang pitches. But today is not the right time, particularly with his now 0-17 batting history against Lopez.

2006-08-06 11:33:25
67.   tommyl
Man Melky sucks. He's peaked, trade him.
2006-08-06 11:33:33
68.   mehmattski
The Melkman delivers!
2006-08-06 11:33:35
69.   BklynBmr
The Melkman!!!
2006-08-06 11:33:43
70.   seamus
2006-08-06 11:33:52
71.   3rd gen yankee fan
I just LOVE Melky.
2006-08-06 11:35:22
72.   Ron Burgundy
Enough multitasking for me.

I gotta watch the NASCAR race and the Yankees game. Adios mi amigos.

2006-08-06 11:35:25
73.   mehmattski
Next up in You Know You're Having a Bad Day When...

...Sal Fasano hits a double off the warning track.

2006-08-06 11:36:13
74.   BklynBmr
Any further word on Miggy's hamstring?
2006-08-06 11:37:33
75.   uburoisc
Someone must have thrown a hotdog near the third base bag, judging by how fast Fasano got over there.
2006-08-06 11:37:38
76.   BklynBmr
Blow this sucker open, JD...
2006-08-06 11:37:40
77.   tommyl
74 Goes on the DL tuesday. Its a strain, I wouldn't expect to see him anytime soon.
2006-08-06 11:38:46
78.   Eirias
Howell has lowered his ERA to 8.64 over in the Tampa Bay game.
2006-08-06 11:40:04
79.   tommyl
Does anyone else think Melky reminds them of a young Bernie? Both seem to resist any label, I recall people being worried about Bernie's power back in 96,97,98 etc. in the same way people talk about Melky. They say he's passable, hits for good average/obp but lacks power. Thoughts?
2006-08-06 11:40:42
80.   tommyl
Well that was less than clutch Cap.
2006-08-06 11:41:09
81.   BklynBmr
77 Thanks, tommyl. Yeah, probably mid-September...
2006-08-06 11:41:40
82.   claybeez
63 Dukes was given a 30 day/game suspension. He's done for the season and has talked about leaving baseball for good.
2006-08-06 11:42:53
83.   Max
Wow, that was awful. Bottom of the order does their job, the top of the order spits the bit against a guy serving up batting practice to that point. Hope it doesn't come back to bite us.
2006-08-06 11:45:55
84.   randym77
74 They are now saying he'll be out for three weeks. Which probably means five weeks, according to the MLB clubhouse-to-reality translator.
2006-08-06 11:48:11
85.   mehmattski
79 Not much to do other than watch baseball and look up stats, so...

2006 (22) 277 AB .285/.359/.394
1991 (22) 320 AB .238/.338/.360
1992 (23) 261 AB .280/.354/.406

Assuming Melky develops as a player in the same way that Bernie did, I'd have to say that Melky is actually further along than Bernie. I was too young to remember if Bernie was similar as a prospect- unheralded, took advantage of holes in the big league team. What I do remember is Mel Hall blasting Bernie in the media for stopping at 3rd when Mel needed a triple for the cycle...

2006-08-06 11:49:14
86.   monkeypants
79 Their age 22 numbers are pretty similar, and Bernie really didn't show much power until age 25:

Melky age 22 .282/.356/.389
Bernie age 22 .238/.336/.350
Bernie age 23 .280/.354/.406
Bernie age 24 .268/.333/.400
Bernie age 25 .289/.384/.453

2006-08-06 11:49:28
87.   tommyl
84 Hamstring strains very rarely heal in 3 weeks.
2006-08-06 11:49:30
88.   BklynBmr
84 How true. Those aren't exactly 22 year old wheels we're talking about, either...
2006-08-06 11:52:23
89.   mehmattski
86 Ha beat you to it :-) But in my haste, I misread Bernie's 1991 SLG. I think Melky's 22 matches up with Bernie's 23 better.

Is Jaret Wright allergic to the sixth inning? Is that why he pitches like this?

2006-08-06 11:52:37
90.   monkeypants
84 Which really means that he'll be kept of the roster for a week, play for three days, sit for three days, then get on the 15 day DL but not come back for two months. Meanwhile, Torre will panic and call up three infielders so that the backup to the backup has a backup. Ponson will also never pitch, because he will be held out in case Lidle only goes three innings. That's the Yankees-injury-and-roster-management-to-reality translator.
2006-08-06 11:52:44
91.   mickey1956
79 I remember noone ever questioning Bernie's ability to handle center. I know Bernie isn't much in the outfield now, but in the early and mid-ninties he was a quality defensive centerfielder. The main knock on Melky is that he doesn't have enough future power to be a CORNER outfielder. If he has the chops for center then he will turn into a very good player. If he can't handle center then it makes his future a little murky. His ++ defense in a tough left field leads me to believe he can handle center.
2006-08-06 11:52:55
92.   randym77
They usually say "two weeks" for a hammy (which means a month), so the fact they are saying "three weeks" now doesn't sound good.
2006-08-06 11:55:36
93.   monkeypants
89 Yeah, it's probably closer to Bernie age 23. Bernie's early career was so flaky--basically a part-time player for two or three years, and some injuries to boot. If Melky finishes out the year he should have about the same big-league experience as sometime in Bernie age 23 season.
2006-08-06 11:57:21
94.   Simone
Well, that could have been worse.
2006-08-06 11:57:55
95.   tommyl
91 I think Melky will be able to play CF. His problem isn't tools (he seems quite fast), it was the lines he was taking to balls and his positioning. All of those seem to have improved greatly since the Nixon debacle. He could be a real plus for this team if he can play it.
2006-08-06 11:59:07
96.   mehmattski
I'm watching the Yanks game on TV (on Comcast), and the Sox-Rays game on Completely distracted by a feature on the Rays wives' annual fashion show, previewed by Casey Fossum's very attractive wife....
2006-08-06 11:59:31
97.   mickey1956
95 Definitely agree. He may never be a gold glover in center, but he can be good out there. And it would be nice to have a centerfielder with a really strong arm.
2006-08-06 11:59:33
98.   Max
94 On track for his typical start of 5 innings with 78 pitches in four. There's something weirdly fascinating about Wright's Houdini act, though, even if the bullpen can't be too happy.
2006-08-06 12:01:54
99.   monkeypants
97 At the very least, Melky should be able ot back-up CF this year (and especially next) when Damon gets some rest. It could really free up the roster if they didn't have to carry a Bubba.
2006-08-06 12:02:39
100.   mehmattski
Jason Johnson just walked freightening hitter Russell Branyan (OBP: .288). Doin great, buddy.
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2006-08-06 12:04:33
101.   BklynBmr
Eat that, Palmer. That's why we pay him the big bucks...
2006-08-06 12:05:24
102.   mehmattski
Giambino! If the Yanks don't slow down, Rod-Lo will surpass Beckett for most HR allowed...
2006-08-06 12:05:26
103.   mickey1956
99 You mean the Yankees should have back-ups who can handle a postion on defense and hit. That would break some new ground. You're right there is no reason to carry someone like Bubba. Damon doesn't need to be spotted on defense, and Bubba's bat isn't good enough to start if Damon can't. If Torre uses Melky next year like he said, and get him regular at-bats to spell all of the outfielders the team will be much better off.
2006-08-06 12:07:59
104.   Max
Why does Lopez bother to pitch to Jason, when there's a black hole right behind him? Oh well, I'm not complaining.
2006-08-06 12:10:32
105.   monkeypants
So, is Wrights problem the innings (going to the sixth), the pitch count, or the number of times through the line-up. Assuming no goofiness, he should get through the fifth with only about 85-90 pitches. Should he go out for the sixth with a four run lead?
2006-08-06 12:13:20
106.   monkeypants
105 Uh, OK...goofiness is ensuing. I rescind my last post.
2006-08-06 12:14:21
107.   Dimelo
I love Jaret Wright. I'm not kidding either; I love how much he battles and keeps me on the edge of my seat. He kind of reminds me of El Duque. I don't think he's a great starter, his role is perfect for the Yanks and his name is not Carl Pavano so that makes him an even better starter in my book.

If I were Cashman, I'd see if he can trade Pavano for a BJ from a crackhead in Hunts Point. I'd at least explore the option, but I can totally understand if the crackhead has too much respect for herself and rejects the offer - or lack thereof.

2006-08-06 12:14:23
108.   BklynBmr
105 Palmer thinks it's because he does not throw many breaking balls, and his arm tires throwing nothing but heat...
2006-08-06 12:17:18
109.   tommyl
99 I would like to see the Yankees shift Melky into CF in some blowout games soon. See how he does at that position. He was a CF in the minors.
2006-08-06 12:17:36
110.   Eirias
105 I think he'll be able to get a couple of outs. Uncharted territory, you know.
2006-08-06 12:17:43
111.   monkeypants
108 If that's the case, then pitch count would seem to be the issues. So, at 90 pitches, do you have him start the sixth (and go batter by batter), or just pull him now and pat him on the back.
2006-08-06 12:20:10
112.   Max
105 Assuming no goofiness -- this is a HUGE assumption when it comes to Wright in any inning. He's just not efficient with his limited repertoire of pitches, and pitch count is definitely an issue.

With that said, he seems pretty good today, albeit against a bad team.

2006-08-06 12:20:52
113.   yankz
Doesn't it seem like the Yankees and Red Sox always win and lose on the same days?

Down to .350, Captain? Slump!

2006-08-06 12:21:35
114.   mehmattski
Interesting stat, Pitches/Plate Appearance... Wright is at 3.79 this season, which is less than his career rate of 3.87

Breaking it down by pitches:
Pitches 1-15 52 .385 .439 .558 .996
Pitches 16-30 70 .257 .325 .357 .682
Pitches 31-45 74 .324 .383 .473 .856
Pitches 46-60 64 .281 .319 .328 .647
Pitches 61-75 51 .216 .276 .314 .590
Pitches 76-90 44 .295 .404 .386 .790
Pitches 91-105 13 .462 .462 .692 1.154

Further, the OPS against versus Righties before this game was .666, versus lefties: .956.

Taking the usual small sample grain of salt, make of that what you will.

2006-08-06 12:22:31
115.   yankz
I haven't been watching, but Wright's WHIP is 1.80 for the game. Has he been getting really lucky (again)?
2006-08-06 12:23:54
116.   Eirias
I have a question for you all. How far in advance are pitching match-ups set?
2006-08-06 12:24:25
117.   Dimelo
115 I wouldn't call it lucky, given that in every inning runners are on, he just seems to make the right pitches when his back is against the wall.

That said, 1-2-3.

2006-08-06 12:24:31
118.   Eirias
5 pitches?
2006-08-06 12:24:40
119.   3rd gen yankee fan
What was that about Jaret being allergic to the 6th? ;-)
2006-08-06 12:24:51
120.   SF Yanks
113 Yes!
2006-08-06 12:24:57
121.   yankz
Wow, that was quick!

Thanks, 117

2006-08-06 12:25:20
122.   seamus
wow, how many pitches was that? that was like a Jaret Wright record!
2006-08-06 12:25:32
123.   Dimelo
116 Before pitchers and catchers report in February. Just kidding....obviously....I imagine it's 5 days in advance and that all depends on off-days in between.
2006-08-06 12:26:25
124.   monkeypants
Well shoot. I might even send him out in the seventh now, at least to steal a batter or two (though it is th top of the O's lineup). If the Yankees score a few more runs this inning, I definitely would try to push Wright.
2006-08-06 12:27:01
125.   mickey1956
It would be great to get a couple of more runs here. Then Wright can pitch the 7th, and Ponson can have the 8th and 9th. The bullpen will get some extra rest heading into a very rough stretch of games the rest of August.
2006-08-06 12:27:36
126.   3rd gen yankee fan
122 5 pitches.
2006-08-06 12:28:36
127.   SF Yanks
115 I would say anywhere from a week to two weeks.
2006-08-06 12:28:55
128.   mehmattski
119 Fair enough, though I hope he doesn't miss his dinner reservations by pitching in the (GASP!!) seventh inning.

Continuing on my stat-binge, in an effort to have more meaningful samples, here's a better answer to monkeypants' question:

Inning 1-3: 210 AB, .290/.355/.414
Inning 4-6: 146 AB, .301/.352/.377

So he doesn't appear to be walking any more hitters in later innings, and he's not throwing more pitches/at bat than usual. And in innings 4-6, in the second/third time through the lineup, he's got a lower OPS against. After all the stats, I've really got nothing...

2006-08-06 12:29:26
129.   Dimelo
Off day tomorrow. At this point...everyone in the pen is available.
2006-08-06 12:29:43
130.   yankz
Sub-.350! Nooo! I'd say he needs at least 6 more HR, and at least .360, to get the MVP (he's now 3rd in VORP).
2006-08-06 12:29:44
131.   Eirias
123,127 Thanks
2006-08-06 12:30:29
132.   yankz
128 Where do you find stats like these? Are they free?
2006-08-06 12:30:53
133.   Eirias
Does a HBP count as part of your OBP?
2006-08-06 12:32:41
134.   monkeypants
133 Yep.
2006-08-06 12:33:15
135.   mehmattski
132 It took some digging, but actually I found this all on ESPN's player pages. They have plenty of more sophisticated stats buried in the pages, for these I searched for Wright, then clicked on "Splits" and at the bottom of the page is a link to "More Splits." I suppose if they got any deeper we could see how Wright does against the #6 guy in the lineup on Grass, in day games, in the 7th inning, when he had eaten tacos for lunch...
2006-08-06 12:35:30
136.   mehmattski
I'm glad that the Orioles have taken an interesting spin with the God Bless America 7th inning thing: make it as ear-splitting as the National Anthem by letting anyone sing it, including those who arent' really sure of the words, the melody, or the tempo of the song. Yuck. That said, the girl who sung it is inifitely more attractive than a decades-dead Kate Smith...
2006-08-06 12:36:14
137.   yankz
Bernie's August OPS: .523. Yup, it's his time of the month.
2006-08-06 12:38:50
138.   yankz
135 Oh I didn't know all that, I'll check it out. Thanks.
2006-08-06 12:41:06
139.   yankz
Another quick inning!
2006-08-06 12:41:27
140.   yankz
137 Er, that should read "his time of the year"...
2006-08-06 12:41:37
141.   mehmattski
Proctor the efficient! At this rate, he could go pitch in the Clippers' game tonight and tomorrow, then come back and ptich three innings on Tuesday. Gotta keep him loose, after all...
2006-08-06 12:42:50
142.   Bama Yankee
107 Hey Dimelo, does the crackhead in question have to massage Pavano's butt? If so, that would probably be a deal breaker...
2006-08-06 12:44:34
143.   mehmattski
The Giambino says; Shift this!
2006-08-06 12:45:20
144.   augustus
Hey bobtaco, if you're reading this, can you shoot me an email at the following address please:



2006-08-06 12:45:22
145.   bobtaco
So is Giambi officially out of the doldrums?
2006-08-06 12:45:48
146.   mehmattski
Double by Zobrist, and its 6-4 Sox! Come on Rays!
2006-08-06 12:47:27
147.   Bama Yankee
Jim Palmer: "Giambi's a pull hitter"
Man, where does he get these nuggets of info...
2006-08-06 12:49:30
148.   mehmattski
Good slide there, Andy. Get off the field, and go straight to the DFA room, ya bum.
2006-08-06 12:49:55
149.   randym77
Andy is not a great baserunner.
2006-08-06 12:50:18
150.   bobtaco
Arod is going to have to show Andy how to operate around second on the slides...
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2006-08-06 12:51:28
151.   mehmattski
2 on, 2 out, down by 2 in the 7th, Crawford at the plate. Time to do some damage for my fantasy team and help the Yankees, Carl.
2006-08-06 12:51:39
152.   randym77
Andy missed the bleepin' base. He was safe by a mile, except for that one minor detail.
2006-08-06 12:51:57
153.   Dimelo
142 I don't think she'll have to massage Pavano's butt. She can just trade him in for some crack.
2006-08-06 12:52:37
154.   mehmattski
Meh, hit it hard but right at Pena. Its really hard to root for the Devil Rays.
2006-08-06 12:57:12
155.   mehmattski
I repeat.... Andy Phillips: Go to DFA. Go directly to DFA. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Can't hit, can't run, defense is not that great. Why are you on this team?
2006-08-06 12:57:39
156.   randym77
Andy now has six errors. One more, and he catches up with Giambi.
2006-08-06 12:57:44
157.   Bama Yankee
My man Andy is having a bad day...
2006-08-06 12:58:46
158.   mehmattski
#1 and #6 in the bullpen warming up at the same time. Maybe they just wanted things to be palindromic in the pen: 42 and 24.
2006-08-06 12:59:12
159.   pistolpete
Andy not making a good case to stay with this team, eh?
2006-08-06 12:59:47
160.   randym77
I suspect Andy's a bit rusty. He always seems to struggle if he's been on the shelf awhile.
2006-08-06 13:01:05
161.   seamus
I really appreciate Abreu's strong arm.
2006-08-06 13:01:47
162.   mehmattski
What about Bernie's 9 year old girl arm?
2006-08-06 13:02:46
163.   seamus
162 Bernie's weak arm is a problem. Drop the insults though, I don't care for that.
2006-08-06 13:02:52
164.   mehmattski
Whew, thought he was going to Ponson for a second there... this is, after all, technically a Save Situation (TM).
2006-08-06 13:03:39
165.   mickey1956
164 This actually would be a good time for Myers, and let Mo have the ninth
2006-08-06 13:05:29
166.   pistolpete
Yeah, I never like the 'Mo for one out in the 8th, 3 outs in the 9th' situation- it just smells of trouble...
2006-08-06 13:06:15
167.   mickey1956
166 I was actually just thinking that Myers could get some work in.
2006-08-06 13:06:49
168.   seamus
we escaped many jams today!
2006-08-06 13:07:23
169.   bobtaco
Travis Lee HR, 6-5...
2006-08-06 13:07:45
170.   Dimelo
The Sawx have a 1 run lead. Come on Rays...go get'em.
2006-08-06 13:08:16
171.   mehmattski
Nick Markakis doesn't ooze the need for a LOOGY, but his OPS is 100 points lower against lefties, so I agree with taking Proctor out, but its another case of not having the correct man warmed up.

Meanwhile, Travis Lee, the .207 AVG Rays cleanup hitter, homers to make it 6-5 in the eighth.

2006-08-06 13:09:23
172.   pistolpete
167 We're both right. ;-)

Rays gotta bag up Timlin, because Lord knows Papelboner is warming up...

2006-08-06 13:10:20
173.   pistolpete
'bang' up Timlin, but it's a moot point now.
2006-08-06 13:10:28
174.   seamus
I'm very happy Cano will likely be back on Tuesday. Green and Cairo just aren't good enough to be our starting 2bman.
2006-08-06 13:11:12
175.   mehmattski
And now, Greg Norton, BJ Upton and Nick Zobrost. I'm sure Papelbon is shaking...
2006-08-06 13:11:44
176.   mehmattski
Come on, Bossman Junior!!!
2006-08-06 13:11:45
177.   JeremyM
174 Not as happy as Green is that Cairo is headed to the DL, since that saved his job.
2006-08-06 13:12:37
178.   Dimelo
YES!!! Navarro
2006-08-06 13:12:58
179.   JeremyM
Navarro just homered!
2006-08-06 13:13:00
180.   mehmattski
Oops, in my haste to cheer for the Bossman, I forgot about Dioneer Navarro. My mistake, he just looked like 1/4 of Randy Johnson to me.
2006-08-06 13:13:00
181.   Eirias
175 Guess Papelbon IS shaking!
2006-08-06 13:13:13
182.   pistolpete
YES 'Boner' blows one!
2006-08-06 13:13:42
183.   phee
boner blows, hee hee
2006-08-06 13:14:35
184.   phee
cmon bobby, blow this open
2006-08-06 13:15:13
185.   pistolpete
Tampa has to win it in 9 - Boston has 7,8,9 up next half.
2006-08-06 13:15:56
186.   mehmattski
Actually, I'll take Norton, Navarro, and Upton over what the Sox have coming up: Pena, Gonzalez, and Cora...
2006-08-06 13:16:36
187.   Dimelo
185 That would be great to see the Rays have a walk-off win.
2006-08-06 13:16:40
188.   Ron Burgundy
Take THAT Papelbitch!
2006-08-06 13:18:37
189.   mehmattski
Um, did I just see a commecial for "Love"? Abstract emotions now have ad campaigns???
2006-08-06 13:19:23
190.   JeremyM
Damn, one batter away from Abreu versus Abreu.
2006-08-06 13:19:34
191.   seamus
189 did people stop believing in it or something?
2006-08-06 13:20:13
192.   pistolpete
Let's see - now seems like a good time for A-Pad to hit one out...


2006-08-06 13:21:05
193.   mehmattski
I don't know... the commercial was about a guy with his buddies in a bar, who risks getting made fun of in order to sing Itsy Bitsy Spider to his daughter on a pay phone. If that's not Love, I don't know what is...
2006-08-06 13:21:42
194.   phee
wow, i forgot that stat about Palmer not EVER giving up a grand slam in over 3900 innings pitched, F'in amazing
2006-08-06 13:22:37
195.   phee
or never, lol
2006-08-06 13:22:39
196.   Ron Burgundy
That wasn't a strike.
2006-08-06 13:23:44
197.   Max
Weird...some people having really good days and some people having awful days for the Yanks. A-Rod, Bernie, Andy definitely belong in the latter category.
2006-08-06 13:24:17
198.   phee
1-2-3 for the sux, cmon rays!!
2006-08-06 13:24:59
199.   mehmattski
3 up 3 down for the Sox in the 9th

Branyan (.201/.288/.503) leads off for the Rays.

2006-08-06 13:26:59
200.   phee
the sux BP 7 homers allowed over last 14 games, OUCH
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2006-08-06 13:27:40
201.   phee
2006-08-06 13:27:41
202.   Ron Burgundy
OK, this is pissing me off here. A-Rod's OPS down to .867. Bobby, Jeter, Posada and Giambi have higher OPSes. And .867 isn't just sub-par for A-Rod, it's bad. It's not like A-Rod is Cano, Jeter, or Damon with who that's a good OPS. Those guys aren't power hitters. A-Rod is a power hitter, and a .867 OPS for a power hitter is just plain bad. I really hope he starts doing that thing where he hits for extra bases really soon again.
2006-08-06 13:28:10
203.   mehmattski
Contrary to his SLG, apparently he can hit singles.
2006-08-06 13:28:16
204.   Ron Burgundy
OK, this is pissing me off here. A-Rod's OPS down to .867. Bobby, Jeter, Posada and Giambi have higher OPSes. And .867 isn't just sub-par for A-Rod, it's bad. It's not like A-Rod is Cano, Jeter, or Damon with who that's a good OPS. Those guys aren't power hitters. A-Rod is a power hitter, and a .867 OPS for a power hitter is just plain bad. I really hope he starts doing that thing where he hits for extra bases really soon again.
2006-08-06 13:28:36
205.   Ron Burgundy
204 Sorry for the double post.
2006-08-06 13:29:14
206.   pistolpete
Likin' the new Abreu grey glove!
2006-08-06 13:29:28
207.   mehmattski
Ben Zobrist, aka Half of Aubrey Huff, gets down the bunt.
2006-08-06 13:29:34
208.   pistolpete
206 Ha- it's painted!
2006-08-06 13:30:12
209.   phee
a blooper and the yanks are up 2 games baby, that's a big IF though
2006-08-06 13:31:05
210.   augustus
Come on Rays...
2006-08-06 13:31:11
211.   mehmattski
It'll have to be more than a blooper, Branyan runs like a brick.
2006-08-06 13:31:24
212.   Ron Burgundy
I know it's Papelbon, but come on Rays, ONE groundball hit is all you need.
2006-08-06 13:31:45
213.   mehmattski
I believe that Jorge Can, too.
2006-08-06 13:31:54
214.   pistolpete
C'mon Crawford, help my fantasy team AND the Yankees...
2006-08-06 13:32:19
215.   phee
yeah but 2 outs, it wont matter
2006-08-06 13:32:20
216.   Dimelo
I wonder what the Rotoworld guy will have to complain about now that Francona does bring in Paps-smear to pitch in the 8th inning with a lead. I bet he'll find something else to bitch about
2006-08-06 13:32:58
217.   augustus
Yankees win. Good game.
2006-08-06 13:33:21
218.   phee
we are so spoiled to have Mo, he makes it look easy again
2006-08-06 13:33:30
219.   Ron Burgundy
GOD gets the save. Now Jon-Jon just has to blow in the Bay.
2006-08-06 13:34:08
220.   phee
who was that cantu? he was in a rush to get out of the box and not get embarrassed
2006-08-06 13:34:35
221.   mehmattski
214 I already tried that in 151 but he wasn't listening then either. At least my league uses OBP instead of AVG, so that IBB helps me...
2006-08-06 13:34:56
222.   phee
o well, we took care of bizness, i cant watch the Rays implode
2006-08-06 13:35:07
223.   BklynBmr
Tampa ties it???
2006-08-06 13:36:24
224.   mehmattski
223 Homers in the 8th by Travis Lee (off Timlin) and Dioneer Navarro (off Papelbon).
2006-08-06 13:37:41
225.   phee
yeah, boner blew the save in the 8th bklyn, timlin gave up a dinget to T. Lee to make it 6-5 and the boner gave up a 2 out dinger to Navarro to tie it, lovely Sunday eh???
2006-08-06 13:38:00
226.   mehmattski
I'm likin the energy at the Trop, even if half are probably Sox fans. C'mon Meadows, let's avoid Ortiz and Ramirez this inning.
2006-08-06 13:40:09
227.   phee
crisp steals 2nd, damn it all
2006-08-06 13:40:28
228.   mehmattski
Oh good, looks like the Rays will actually use a lefty against Ortiz.
2006-08-06 13:41:13
229.   phee
I intentionally walk Loretta to get to Papsmear, see he almost hit one out :)
2006-08-06 13:42:08
230.   BklynBmr
224 , 225 Wow! Thanks, guys — my 'net connection is acting up today. Navarro off Pap! Gotta love it. Let's go, Rays!!!
2006-08-06 13:42:24
231.   mehmattski
Baseball Cliche #418: Straighten that ball out!
2006-08-06 13:43:31
232.   phee
here we go 2 outs, walking papi to get to Manny (GULP), mANNY IS 5-8 AND 4 HOMERS AGAINST MEADOWS
2006-08-06 13:43:34
233.   Dimelo
That's great...they are going to walk Papi.
2006-08-06 13:44:42
234.   BklynBmr
Finally, someone is smart enough to walk Ortiz...
2006-08-06 13:44:47
235.   mehmattski
Sorry, I disagree with this one... bring in the lefty you've got warming to face ortiz, rather than Meadows, off whom Manny has hit 4 Homers in 7 at bats...
2006-08-06 13:44:55
236.   phee
yes maddon takes out meadows, thank god
2006-08-06 13:45:43
237.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Bring in a lefty to face Manny. Iirc his split the last two years have been much poorer vs lefties.
2006-08-06 13:45:58
238.   mehmattski
If it weren't for the Greek God of Walks after Manny, I'd agree with the Rays announcer: put Manny on too
2006-08-06 13:46:04
239.   phee
i dont face Ortiz ever if i can help it, especially in this place where he tears it up, maybe Manny will be asleep in the clubhouse or something
2006-08-06 13:46:45
240.   phee
for the record Papi was 1-2 against the lefty switzer
2006-08-06 13:47:34
241.   mehmattski
This is like watching a train wreck in slow motion...
2006-08-06 13:48:34
242.   phee
LOL meh, it is like watching a train wreck
2006-08-06 13:49:06
243.   phee
yessssss, popped him up, great startegy maddon, he's better than Wedge
2006-08-06 13:49:17
244.   phee
2006-08-06 13:49:19
245.   bobtaco
242 and the train bounces back on the track...
2006-08-06 13:49:21
246.   Dimelo
Eso eh, Manny...Gracias!!!!!
2006-08-06 13:49:32
247.   mehmattski
Manny stands and stares at a pop fly to right field. What a dope.
2006-08-06 13:51:18
248.   phee
Manny is the best and worst player I've ever seen, he's amazing in the truest sense of the word
2006-08-06 13:52:07
249.   neilymon
and it's a high fly ball to right field. . .

branyan on the run. . .i mean walk. . .

and squeezes it. and manny might have taken a step toward first base at best.

BTW, can we start some sort of hitless streak count for javy lopez? i really think that would be a great deal of fun.

is he 0-8 so far as a red sawx?

2006-08-06 13:52:40
250.   phee
Tavarez in, cmon Rays do to him what everybody else does
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2006-08-06 13:53:00
251.   Ron Burgundy
Tavarez in...This should be fun...
2006-08-06 13:53:36
252.   mehmattski
I don't understand why Lopez pinch hit there. I thought Corky Miller was doing just fine. Heh. Corky. Wasn't that the name of Murphy Brown's co-host?
2006-08-06 13:53:44
253.   bobtaco
2006-08-06 13:53:51
254.   phee
Taht DP was sweet yesterday neil, wasnt it, YESSSSSSSSSSS, Tavarez to the rescue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2006-08-06 13:53:58
255.   BklynBmr
Oh, yes! Thank God for Tavaras!
2006-08-06 13:54:03
256.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
2006-08-06 13:54:08
257.   mehmattski
Greg Norton = clutch!
2006-08-06 13:54:12
258.   Ron Burgundy
2006-08-06 13:54:25
259.   seamus

ok, that was a little exagerated!

2006-08-06 13:54:30
260.   3rd gen yankee fan
2006-08-06 13:54:35
261.   phee
2 games up folks, u all have a GREAT DAY !!!!
2006-08-06 13:55:08
262.   mehmattski
Go ahead, BBTN, tell us again how the Sox have a better bullpen than the Yankees. This is the beginning of the end for the Sox, I can feel it.
2006-08-06 13:55:44
263.   Dimelo
I'm Dominican, but Tavarez has got to be the love child of Manuel Noriega and Norv Turner.
2006-08-06 13:56:07
264.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
ESPN will be showing that homer on an endless loop, right . . . right?

(Oh wait, Papi didn't hit it, sorry)

2006-08-06 13:56:10
265.   phee
are the sux off tomorrow, anyone know?
2006-08-06 13:57:20
266.   phee
Norv Turner, LOL, because of the Coffee cake face u mean?
2006-08-06 13:59:23
267.   neilymon
wow - lee/norton/navarro all went deep today for the satan rays. . .

now THAT'S a fearsome 3-4-5. whaddya you guys think, big papsmear/manny/yuck or lee/norton/navarro? whistles

2006-08-06 13:59:24
268.   mehmattski
They're off tomorrow before they start their gruelling series versus the Royals.

Declarmen: 0.2 IP, 2 ER
Timlin: 0.2 IP, 1 ER (HR)
Papelbon: 1.1 IP, 1 ER (HR)
Tavarez: 0.1 IP 1 ER, (HR)

Love it.

2006-08-06 13:59:54
269.   joe in boston
You know what ? With the lineups as they stand now (Sox and Yanks)...I wouldn't be surprised to see the Yanks start to run away with it. Yikes, I don't want to jinx us...but man, I can see them extending the lead by a game or so each week. The Sox announcers on the recap sound devastated - I can't wait to listen to the rest of Sports talk on WEEI today and tomorrow !

Enjoy this !

2006-08-06 14:00:00
270.   mehmattski
They're off tomorrow before they start their gruelling series versus the Royals.

Declarmen: 0.2 IP, 2 ER
Timlin: 0.2 IP, 1 ER (HR)
Papelbon: 1.1 IP, 1 ER (HR)
Tavarez: 0.1 IP 1 ER, (HR)

Love it.

2006-08-06 14:01:02
271.   Ron Burgundy
262 Honestly, I don't think even they can be stupid enough. I mean, even if you go by what you "See," the Sawx 'pen sucks other than Paperboy. We have MO, Farns, Proctor, Villone, and Myers as top relievers.
2006-08-06 14:02:56
272.   mehmattski
271 And yet, less than a week ago I remember Kruk saying that despite all the Yankees' trades, despite the Red Sox doing nothing, the Red Sox were still the favorite in the East because "the Red Sox bullpen is clearly superior."

Don't care if he hit exactly .300 for his career. He's a terrible analyst.

2006-08-06 14:03:25
273.   Ron Burgundy
I REALLY hope we do to the ChiSoaxxx what we did to them last time and sweep. And I hope that the Royals somehow win at least one game VS. the Sawx in the process.
2006-08-06 14:05:12
274.   phee
I'll take 2 of 3 against the white sox, i wonder how much Boners ERA went up, anyone???
2006-08-06 14:05:30
275.   Ron Burgundy
272 Kruk is an idiot. Does he realize that just because Papelbitch is having a great year that doesn't mean the rest of their 'pen is good? (I'll answer that: NO)
2006-08-06 14:06:00
276.   Ron Burgundy
274 Only about .20, he only gave up one run.
2006-08-06 14:07:37
277.   Ron Burgundy
Once again, if not for Julian Tavarez, God Bless his Evil heart, we couldn't be happy as we are now. Let's give him a shoutout.


2006-08-06 15:33:49
278.   randym77
Newsday is reporting that the Mets are trying to sign former Yankee Ruben Sierra. They gotta be kidding. Ruben's batting .179 / .273 / .214 this year. Bubba Crosby is more of a slugger than he is these days.
2006-08-06 15:45:27
279.   mikeplugh
278 Yeah Randy, but Bubba isn't a Latin player. Omar couldn't make that move.

Just kidding. I actually think that Minaya has done an amazing job, and if it means he gets the best Latin players out there because he can....the Mets can win it all. After all, what part of the world is producing the best talent on the planet?

Hint: Not Bellaire, Texas (Bubba's hometown)

Anyway, Sierra's a bad move any way you slice it.

2006-08-06 16:07:20
280.   randym77
Can the Mets really be that desperate for a bad pinch-hitter? Jeez, at this point I think I'd be more inclined to give Ruben Studdard a shot than Ruben Sierra.
2006-08-06 16:17:07
281.   Bama Yankee
279 Hey didn't Chuck Knoblauch, José Cruz, Jr., Jeff DaVanon, and Emeka Okafor all go to Bellaire High School? Not to mention Randy and Dennis Quaid. I know, still not the best talent on the planet, but not bad...

BTW, I agree that Ruben is a bad move. Maybe Dennis Quaid would be a better pickup, he could really bring the heat in the movie "The Rookie" ;-)

2006-08-06 16:24:48
282.   Bama Yankee
280 Ruben Studdard, good one Randy. For the record, Ruben Studdard is from Alabama. Maybe Alabama is the place that is producing the best talent on the planet 279? I know, I know, my boy Andy Phillips is not helping our cause lately.
2006-08-06 16:57:55
283.   Chyll Will
281 ??? Is there an edition of "Who's Who in American High Schools" that lists Jeff DaVanon, Emeka Okafor and Randy Quaid all going to the same high school? And do I find that edition at Barnes & Noble, Goodwill or the Twilight Zone?
2006-08-06 17:43:32
284.   Chyll Will
cricket... cricket...
2006-08-07 05:05:17
285.   Dan M
22, 23, 26: I know that this is a long time to respond (forgive me for enjoying the sunshine), but in terms of VORP, Cairo has been the worst offensive Yankee this season, without question. Worse than Bernie. Similarly, the only Yankees pitchers with a lower VORP total than RJ are either recently acquired (Lidle, Veras), no longer on the team (Small, Chacon, Sturtze, Erickson, etc.), or irrelevant (Sidney Ponson). So I stand by my statement: IMO, the current worst Yankees are Cairo and RJ. Having said that, RJ has the most potential on the team, and could easily turn things around and skyrocket up through the VORP chart. Cairo? Not so much.

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