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Joe Torre held a mid-season meeting prior to last night's game and then enjoyed watching his team beat-up on the Indians, 11-3. Aaron Boone committed three errors for Cleveland, two in the Yankees' pivotal eight-run fourth inning. Melky Cabrera led the charge with the first grand slam of his career. Mike Mussina performed well enough--his breaking ball was particularly sharp in the early going--though his right groin continues to bother him. Mussina pitched just six innings and hopes that the All-Star break will help him heal properly. Same goes for Johnny Damon, who had to leave the game in the third inning with a sore lower abdominal muscle. According to Torre, Damon first felt that something was not right during batting practice, and after a few innings, he was removed from the game. They should know more about the seriousness of the injury today, but it's not a stretch to think that Damon will be rested this weekend in Tampa Bay.
The Bombers gained a game on Boston, who lost again to the Devil Rays.
The Yanks acquired Aaron Guiel, a left-handed hitting outfielder, on the cheap yesterday. While Boss George is behind his GM, Brian Cashman all the way, the Yanks have not geeked and pulled the trigger on any significant deals yet. Cashman tells Mike Lupica:
"Right now we're not a playoff team. We're just a playoff-contending team."..."We've had the black cloud so far, no question," Cashman said. "But that black cloud isn't going to be over Yankee Stadium the whole season. Eventually it's going to move somewhere else."
..."We're trying to fix this, but we're trying to fix it right," Cashman said. "We've taken some big-time hits this season, and our team has responded with heart and character. This isn't last season, when we had a lot of healthy guys underperforming and we were nine games out. This team is different. And I want to do my part to help them out, and honor the effort I've seen from them so far. I just don't want to make a mistake."
And here's more from the Times:
"If you want to do something this early, you have to overpay," Cashman said Wednesday. "I'm not looking to overpay. The only thing I'm looking to do is improve our club at fair value."So far, I have passed. We have a short-term goal of improving the team now, and a long-term goal of keeping the future intact. It's a tightrope you walk every day. I'm very comfortable with the decision-making process and the fight that this club has shown."
To be continued, for sure...
Oliver Stone couldn't have made a better Platoon.
That's fine, Cash...please keep on passing every time you hear the name Hughes come up!!!
He has also played at least five different positions in five different seasons. Given the way this season has gone, he is arguably as important an acquisition as Johnny Damon (but hopefully not for long).
Anyone want to bet that the Yanks don't make a big move at all?
In last night's game thread, someone commented that Tyler Clippard has been pitching much better lately. This is purely speculation, but anyone else wonder if having the regular minor league umps back isn't maybe the reason why?
5 Cairo's good years are barely adequate for a playoff team, no matter how many positions he can play, unless one of those is catcher. This is a lack of foresight on the part of the Yankees front office that keeps coming back to haunt them. He's had exactly 3 seasons over .700 OPS in his career. .290 BA with little patience and no power isn't very valuable at all.
Cairo has a career OPS+ 4 points higher than Womack. He's an out maker and he's not as good defensively as the booth would have you believe.
//Given the way this season has gone, he is arguably as important an acquisition as Johnny Damon//
Is going to open you up for all sorts of comments. I'll help you out and expand on what you've said and it's simply my personal opinion.
I've always liked Cairo and thought he brought something to the Yanks. Everything is about numbers around these parts and many parts of Yankee web fandom, I love those too, but sometimes I try not to pay attention to them and look at the human element that a player brings to a team. I think Cairo brings that to the team, what that "it" is...I really don't know. But I've seen enough Yankee games to see him do more good and that isn't always reflected in the bottom line hitting numbers. I'm a big believer in the numbers, I have lots of respect for the numbers that are thrown out, but baseball isn't like building a dam or a bridge - where tolerances are measured in the minutiae. Baseball is about managing people and sometimes the numbers don't lie (i.e. T-Ball Long, A. Small) and sometimes they don't tell the whole story (i.e. Cairo), note the difference .sometimes the numbers don't lie and sometimes they don't tell the whole story, nevertheless, the numbers are always facts and it's hard to argue against them.
So waiting around for Sheffsui and Dotel until late August/early September probably isn't going to cut it. I was pretty laid back regarding the need to make a move, but our post-ASB schedule, with all the games against Toronto and the White Sox (and our old friends, the Angels), makes me a bit nervous...we could be seriously out of it by the end of August if we maintain a bunch of mascots at the bottom of the order, and our pitching continues to be a bunch of 5-6 inning starts followed by the continued taxing of the bullpen.
The most significant mid-season acquisition by the Yankees was picking up David Justice in June of 2000. An early deal isn't a bad thing - its the impulse deal that kills teams.
Who's numbers are these? .276/.373/.351
They would be career numbers for Willie Randolph. Granted the OBP is an improvement, but there isn't that much difference otherwise in pure numbers.
Check these out for Bucky Dent
.247/.297/.321
who was the starting shortstop for a World Series winning Yankees team, along with Willie.
Corner Outfielders? How about Roy White:
.271/.360/.404
Reggie Jackson is in the Hall of Fame (rightly so) with these numbers:
.262/.356/.490
The game sure has changed. Look out our current starting shortstop's career numbers:
.314/.386/.461
Crazy.
Here's my two cents: I don't think Justice was the only good move Cashman has ever made. And, if we accept that Justice was the single move that cemented a championship - I'm not convinced of that, BTW - then yes, one good move that wins a championship is a worthy legacy.
All that said, I don't think Cashman gets over-credited for 2000. Without evaluating 'heart and soul', I don't think the 2000 Yanks were a 'great' team at all. In all honesty, they were a good team that got very lucky, and Justice was a big reason why. As was Glenallen Hill, for that matter. And Bernie, Jeter, and Jorge - check out their numbers from that season, compared with what the rest of the 'offense' did.
I think this is why Cash is respected by many of his peers...the Lupicas of the world who scream "you've got $200 million, how can you go wrong" forget all the baggage that comes with it (including other teams who try to take advantage of George's itchy trigger-finger). It beats being the Marlins GM, but it's not a walk in the park.
This is all a long-winded way of saying that Cash's "legacy" has a number of complicating factors, and may not be fully apparent until we see what the Yankees of 2008 or 2009 look like (though Cash may not be around to see it).
Just for the heck of it, here are those guys 'translated' numbers, per BP, so one can compare them despite differences in eras, league averages, positions, etc:
Cairo, career, .266/.317/.363
Randolph career, .293/.394/.393
Dent career, .256/.311/.359
White career, .289/.378/.473
Reggie career, .273/.369/.567
Jeter career, .323/.398/.482
If you think about it, they all make sense. Cairo and Dent are no hit infielders. Randolph was phenomonal at getting on base; that skill alone made him very valuable. Roy White was vastly underrated, while Reggie and Jeter are both clearly Hall of Famers.
Hideki Matsui reminds me a lot of Roy White: quiet, efficient ballplayers who don't stand out in any one area, but who do everything well (except throw). White had more speed and was a better outfielder, Matsui has more power; but generally they're pretty comparable.
Cashman's quotes today did a lot to reassure me. As far as I can tell, he seems to be set on sticking to his plan sink or swim, which means that his eye is on making the right moves at the sacrifice, perhaps, of this season, which really should have a mulligan anyways...
When you think, next season, J.B. Cox, Steven White, Hughes (maybe), could all be ready to contribute, with Smith and Beam thrown in as well. That gives us, potentially, a +2 in starters, +3 in relievers.
As for the OBP comments, I guess most people on this blog would take Jorge Posada's offense over Ichiro's. But that's a whole 'nother debate . . . .
Being a tough guy doesn't affect either.
his OBP is .375 compared to Posada's .402 mark. They're a wash when it comes to HR. I'm not sure how Victor is a better offensive player than Posada.
30 Long term I would take Martinez over Jorge only because of the huge age difference in Victor's favor.
I'm also not sold on singles equating to walks in OBP. True, seeing more pitches is good, but base hits move runners.
With a runner on third a single is more valuable than a walk because in most cases that single drives a run home.
Pretty straightforward.
But what about when there's a guy on first, a single could move a guy to second, or third or in some cases even home. With a runner on first, a single that moves a runner from first to second is no more valuable than a walk.
It would be interesting to find a way to adjust OBP to measure the relative value of it's component parts, but my guess is that a lot of that value is derived by luck, not by any particular skill, and so would be of marginal analytical value.
No argument on Posada's value. But if I could choose one for my roster for a full season (and certainly for multiple seasons), I would go with Martinez.
Fifth inning, no one on base, opposing starting pitcher laboring. Would it be more valuable to have a guy like Ichiro slap a base hit into left field on the second pitch or to have a guy like Giambi work the count full and then foul off three pitches before taking his walk. I say the latter.
I'm just saying that a value weighted OBP stat would be really interesting. I don't know if it would be useful for anything, but it would definitely be interesting.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/news/261875.html
OK, I found the article - its a subscriber only, I'm afraid:
http://tinyurl.com/gad2x
He may just shade Jorge offensively, but sheesh, defensively . . . the guy's got an arm like my 4 year-old daughter.
I like the fact that playing with "heart" matters. It's a big part of what makes a guy a good teammate. A bigger part of what makes a guy a good teammate is not to leave me standing on 2nd base all the time.
Guys like Miguel Cairo have a place in baseball off the bench. Just not on the Yankees. The Yankees spend $200 million on the ballclub and end up with terrible players on the bench. The problem is that we spend money on guys like Carl Pavano, Kevin Brown, and others. Overpaying for pitching is a result of producing zero from the minor league level, and ends up handcuffing the team's ability to sign reasonable bench players to back up in the case of injury.
The failure to produce anything meaningful from the minors to take the mound has killed the budget, as we can only buy what's available, and in most years it's better to pass on the mediocre stuff on the free agent market. Because we spend freely on crap, we have to try to skimp on some parts of the team, most notably the bench.
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