Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
Atlanta Braves
2006-06-26 12:05
by Cliff Corcoran
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Say what you want about Leo Mazzone's ineffectiveness as the Baltimore Orioles' pitching coach thus far this season, but the Braves, who won their division 14 straight times (not counting the strike year of 1995) with Mazzone rockin' in their dugout, are about to miss the playoffs for the first time since 1990 when Mazzone was hired mid-season to be the Braves' pitching coach. And the reason the Braves are languishing in dead last place below the mismanaged Nationals and post-fire sale Marlins? Yup. It's the pitching.

The only NL teams to have allowed more runs per game than the Braves are the Brewers and Pirates, while the Atlanta bullpen's 5.06 ERA is essentially tied with the Reds' (5.07) for the worst in the NL and second worst in baseball (the Royals' pen is on a whole other level of suck). What's most dispiriting about the Braves' pitching is that there's not a large range of performances there. Other than failed closer Chris Reitsma's 9.11 ERA (now on the DL), and swing-man Lance Cormier's 6.23 on one end and new closer Ken Ray's 2.80 on the other, everyone on the current roster falls between Chad Paronto's 3.80 and Jorge Sosa's 5.18. Yes, John Smotlz and Tim Hudson fall toward the low end of that spectrum, but neither has been the stopper this team needs. Absent that kind of ace, the Braves have been on a dramatic downward spiral all month. After pulling out of a losing April to finish May three games over .500, the Braves have gone a staggering 4-19 in June, low-lighted by a ten-game losing streak that was snapped by the Devil Rays on Friday. Indeed, before that weekend series in Tampa the Braves were 2-18 in June.

It's the end of an era in Atlanta. John Smoltz, the only man other than manager Bobby Cox and Mazzone to have participated in all fourteen playoff appearances, is a free agent after this season and has said he would accept a trade. Andruw Jones, who has been with the team since he was a teenager in 1996, Cox and GM John Schuerholz are all signed through 2007 only. Could be Chipper Jones, signed through 2008 with a 2009 option that will likely vest itself, will be the last man standing. I for one welcome the release of the Braves' grip on the NL East division, but with the end finally here, the fact that this team only won one Championship and failed to reach the World Series in their last six postseasons leaves even me with an empty feeling.

That said, here's hoping the Yankees party like it's 1999 and sweep the Bravos over the next three games. Robinson Cano is not in the line-up tonight due to the left hamstring injury he suffered yesterday while running out a double, though early reports are that he will not have to go on the DL. Instead, Joe Torre gives Miguel Cairo the start at second, but sullies his lineup by batting Miggy second once again. Jason Giambi, who missed the first game of yesterday's double-header with a bad back played last night and is back in there tonight. Bubba Crosby gets the start in right as Tim Hudson and Randy Johnson give the Yankees their second marquee pitching matchup in as many days.

Atlanta Braves

2006 Record: 32-44 (.421)
2006 Pythagorean Record: 35-41 (.463)

Manager: Bobby Cox
General Manager: John Schuerholz

Home Ballpark (2005 Park Factors): Turner Field (104/104)

Who's Replacing Whom?

  • Edgar Renteria replaces Rafael Furcal
  • Brian McCann inherits Johnny Estrada's playing time
  • Jeff Francoeur inherits Raul Mondesi's playing time
  • Scott Thorman replaces Julio Franco
  • Matt Diaz replaces Kelly Johnson (DL)
  • Todd Pratt replaces various random pieces
  • Chuck James is filling in for John Thompson (DL), who took over Kyle Davies' starts (60-day DL)
  • Jorge Sosa takes over Mike Hampton's starts (60-day DL)
  • Ken Ray replaces Danny Kolb
  • Oscar Villarreral replaces John Foster (60-day DL)
  • Macay McBride inherits Kyle Farnsworth and Blaine Boyer's playing time (DL)
  • Chad Paronto replaces Adam Bernero
  • Tyler Yates replaces Roman Colon
  • Kevin Barry replaces Jim Brower and Kevin Gryboski

Current Roster:

1B – Adam LaRoche (L)
2B – Marcus Giles (R)
SS – Edgar Renteria (R)
3B – Chipper Jones (S)
C – Brian McCann (L)
RF – Jeff Francoeur (R)
CF – Andruw Jones (R)
LF – Ryan Langerhans (L)


L – Scott Thorman (1B/OF)
S – Wilson Betemit (IF)
R – Matt Diaz (OF)
L – Pete Orr (IF)
R – Todd Pratt (R)


R – Tim Hudson
L – Horacio Ramirez
R – John Smoltz
R – Jorge Sosa
L - Chuck James


R – Ken Ray
R – Oscar Villarreral
L – Macay McBride
R – Lance Cormier
R – Chad Paronto
R – Tyler Yates
R – Kevin Barry

15-day DL: R – John Thompson, R - Chris Reitsma, R – Brian Jordan (OF), L – Kelly Johnson (OF), R – Phil Stockman
60-day DL: L – Mike Hampton, L – John Foster, R – Kyle Davies, R – Blaine Boyer

Typical Lineup:

R – Marcus Giles (2B)
R – Edgar Renteria (SS)
S – Chipper Jones (3B)
R – Andruw Jones (CF)
L – Brian McCann (C)
R – Jeff Francoeur (RF)
L – Adam LaRoche (1B)
L – Ryan Langerhans (LF)

Comments (272)
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2006-06-26 13:55:48
1.   randym77
Okay, given Miggy's left/right splits, I could understand batting him second against the D-Train. But Hudson is a righty, is he not? Miggy's batting .190 against righties.
2006-06-26 14:07:10
2.   Cliff Corcoran
Hudson is indeed a righty (the only one of the A's former Three Aces), thus Bubba getting the start in right. Pity Kevin Reese.
2006-06-26 14:13:26
3.   randym77
I have a feeling Reese is going to be sent down in favor of Thompson soon. Two lefty backup OFers are not as useful as a righty and a lefty.

Hudson is a pitcher who has been oft-rumored as a future Yankee this season. He seems like a real card. He's the one who spent a good 20 minutes throwing pieces of popcorn at Smoltz's head, when Smotlz was trying to give an interview.

2006-06-26 14:17:45
4.   C2Coke
At least Andy Phillips is NOT once again keeping the bench chairs warm tonight. But seriously, I can't decide which is "better", batting Bernie second or batting Cairo second?

Tomorrow will be a good day to play the BoSox. Let's go Mets!

2006-06-26 14:22:22
5.   randym77
What's wrong with batting Jeter second? :-P

I'm glad Andy and Bubba are in. If "bad Randy" shows up tonight, we'll need some defense.

And I don't want to see Giamb-E at 1B anytime soon. :-P

2006-06-26 14:22:44
6.   Cliff Corcoran
3 I'd be fine with that (both Thompson and Hudson, the latter with the usual caveats).

4 Andy's the starting first baseman. For reals. He only sat last week because there was no DH in the NL parks and any sane person plays Giambi over Phillips. I was actually fine with Melky second. Even when he slumped he had good at-bats and drew walks. But ultimately, why shoehorn anyone in there if no one's up to it. Damon, Jeter, Giambi, Rodriguez, Posada, Cano, Phillips, I like that line-up just fine.

2006-06-26 14:26:28
7.   Zack
Well, here we are again. Guy on second, ortiz up, Gordon pitching, 1 out...Any reason you don't just walk Ortiz???
2006-06-26 14:26:49
8.   Zack
Which they now Manny gets the chance...
2006-06-26 14:30:40
9.   unpopster
well, Flash The Puker is about to spit the bit against the Sawx again.
2006-06-26 14:31:41
10.   Zack
Manny walks, so Kapler up with bases loaded in the 11th...This seems predictable
2006-06-26 14:32:04
11.   standuptriple
Come on, pitcher's best friend
2006-06-26 14:33:53
12.   Zack
Kapler grounds into FC, out at home..two outs for Lowell now...
2006-06-26 14:35:39
13.   unpopster
wow, I take that back, Flash got out of it!
2006-06-26 14:36:20
14.   Zack
Wow, good for Flash! Now the Phillies better score, I don't think they have a bullpen left...
2006-06-26 14:37:21
15.   randym77
I can't believe he got out of that. Wow.
2006-06-26 14:38:39
16.   monkeypants
Hmmm. Why do I suspect that 'team officials do not think Cano will go on the DL' means that he will not play for four days, come back and be ineffective (all the while the Yanks play a man short effectively). Then, the team will DL him, meaning he will have effectively missed three weeks. Then, the team will be forced to call up a double-emergency IF (Cairo = emergency), who invariable will be a no-hit SS/2B, who will never play. But to make room for him, the team will have to send someone down for ten days. Who's still got options? Probably a pitcher--but whoever it is, the Yanks will be caught shorthanded at that position in about ten days.

This is the tactical general managing I've come to expect. Maybe I'm just cranky.

2006-06-26 14:43:23
17.   randym77
16 That thought did cross my mind. They thought Bubba would be playing again in a week. They DLed him because, well, much as I love the guy, he's expendable. Cano isn't. They're going to try to keep him off the DL if there's any chance he can return in less than two weeks. The fact that he's not going on the DL doesn't mean the injury is not serious.
2006-06-26 14:50:01
18.   randym77
And Philly scores...
2006-06-26 14:52:11
19.   Stormer Sports
And the Red Sox are about to win it...
2006-06-26 14:53:27
20.   Zack
Ugh, how predictable...
2006-06-26 14:54:04
21.   Zack
leadoff double for crisp
2006-06-26 14:54:18
22.   Stormer Sports
Maybe Bret Myers will charge from the dugout and tackle Crisp as he is attempting to score, acuse him of cheating on him, slap him around a little, and the run won't score.
2006-06-26 14:54:56
23.   Zack
Tek flies out to center, doesn't advance the runner...Or should we say, GOV?
2006-06-26 14:58:34
24.   Zack
After going down 3-0 to the almighty Gonzalez, he pops up to the catcher...2 outs, Youk up...
2006-06-26 14:58:34
25.   Stormer Sports
You have got to be kidding me.
2006-06-26 14:59:37
26.   Zack
And, not surprisingly, he singles, ties the game, and goes to second...blah...oh well
2006-06-26 15:00:22
27.   Stormer Sports
What a half witted play from the right fielder.
2006-06-26 15:01:12
28.   Stormer Sports
Either way, Ortiz comes up next inning.
2006-06-26 15:02:16
29.   Stormer Sports
Why dont we have a player who puts the fear of God into opposing pitchers, ugh!
2006-06-26 15:02:38
30.   Marcus
Nice. Walk Loretta to get to Ortiz. Way to go Clay.
2006-06-26 15:04:16
31.   unpopster
Now Papi will hit the game winning hit and once again be called clutch...while Arod will ground out weekly against Hudson all night tonight...
2006-06-26 15:05:23
32.   rbj
Hey Condrey, thanks for nuthin', ya bum
2006-06-26 15:05:29
33.   Stormer Sports
Now can people stop putting Arod in Ortiz's class in these situations, please!
2006-06-26 15:05:30
34.   unpopster
2006-06-26 15:06:04
35.   Marcus
31 So far, you're half right.
2006-06-26 15:06:45
36.   Stormer Sports
It may be reactionary, but there aint no way we can play with these guys without Matsui and Sheffield, no way.
2006-06-26 15:07:03
37.   Zack
This was hardly anything clutch by Ortiz, Youkilis I suppose, but you get a leadoff double, he should score...
2006-06-26 15:07:26
38.   unpopster
the new refrain is now "Death, Taxes, Ortiz comes through, Arod chokes."
2006-06-26 15:08:21
39.   Zack
36 We have beaten them 2 out of 3 already without them...Face it, Philyl stinks...they stunk against us, and they stink against everyone. The Sox will go through a cold streak, the problem is, will it even matter for us?
2006-06-26 15:08:33
40.   Stormer Sports

Huh? Game winning hit with 2 out and 2 strikes, hmm, even a Yankee fan has to call that clutch.

2006-06-26 15:10:20
41.   Zack
I tend to place a lot more weight to the hits the tie the game first. Just as with the 2001 World series, everyone remembers Derek's game winner, but Tino's game tying HR was, too me, far more memorable. No chance for Ortiz to bat if Youk doesn't come through...
2006-06-26 15:10:42
42.   Stormer Sports
What Ortiz gives the Red Sox is the belief that they can come back and win against anyone. Something they sorely lacked prior to 2004. Now they have it and we dont. It doesn't make Ortiz, "the best clutch hitter in Red Sox history" to be sure, but it does gives them something we dont have.
2006-06-26 15:11:08
43.   Zack
And in terms of Ortiz...Well, the pitcher was having trouble getting everyone else out too...
2006-06-26 15:11:16
44.   randym77
We've been known to get leadoff triples without scoring... :-P
2006-06-26 15:12:25
45.   Zack
Do you remember that it was just two years ago that the Yanks set the "record for most comeback wins in a season?" Clearly they beleived it too, and that offense wasn't much different than this one...
2006-06-26 15:23:39
46.   Start Spreading the News
The game was already tied when Ortiz got to the plate. The clutch hit was the one that tied the game and gave Ortiz a chance to win it.
2006-06-26 15:28:36
47.   randym77
Derek Jeter is 32 today. (Man, I feel old. Seems like only yesterday he was a kid.)

Happy birthday, Derek. Give us a present - make this one an easy win. Please? We're overdue for a blowout.

2006-06-26 15:35:09
48.   Stormer Sports
Happy Birthday Derek. One year older than Arod but light-years ahead in maturity.

Happy B'day. Let's win this one.

2006-06-26 15:36:15
49.   Stormer Sports

Ortiz had a chance to tie it. They walked him. Cannot blame him for that.

2006-06-26 16:14:40
50.   Schteeve
Stormer, We do have a guy who puts the fear of god into pitchers, his name is Giambi. He's having himself a better season than Ortiz, you should look him up sometime.
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2006-06-26 16:18:20
51.   Schteeve
Batting Cairo second in intolerable.
2006-06-26 16:18:51
52.   nysports05
Is the tarheel in the house??
2006-06-26 16:19:50
53.   Benjamin Kabak
Cairo is like that guy in little league. When he's up, the outfield takes five steps in and the infield starts taunting "autmotatic out."
2006-06-26 16:20:08
54.   randym77
Maybe Cairo has good numbers against Hudson or something.

Go, Jeet!

2006-06-26 16:22:20
55.   rbj
2006-06-26 16:22:29
56.   Schteeve
that Jeter kid can sure hit a little can't he?
2006-06-26 16:22:35
57.   Benjamin Kabak
Giambi should definitely just stick with hitting!
2006-06-26 16:22:38
58.   randym77
2006-06-26 16:23:40
59.   BklynBmr
Why did it take 18 innings to plate 2 yesterday?
2006-06-26 16:23:47
60.   Schteeve
Dear Jason Giambi and Derek Jeter,

Thanks for carrying us.


Bronx Banter

2006-06-26 16:23:49
61.   unpopster
ok, so even though the Bombers play the Sawx 19 times this year, how we do against our other opponents is just as important. Therefore, since Boston swept the Braves last wek, anything less than a Yankee sweep is unexcusable.
2006-06-26 16:24:33
62.   Schteeve
There goes A-Rod with another unnecessary hit. What a jerk.
2006-06-26 16:24:34
63.   Benjamin Kabak
BOOO. A-Rod hit only a single. BOOOO. He sucks. Grumble grumble grumble
2006-06-26 16:25:44
64.   Simone
Happy birthday, Derek! Yep, Jeter turning 32 does make me feel old.
2006-06-26 16:26:47
65.   randym77
Clutch HBP for Jorgie.
2006-06-26 16:27:04
66.   rbj
And Posada gets hit again.
2006-06-26 16:28:27
67.   randym77
C'mon, Andy! They're calling you an automatic out at YES. Prove 'em wrong!
2006-06-26 16:29:31
68.   Schteeve
Andy Phillips is 0-12 with RISP. Somebody better tell that bum A-Rod to stay away from him. He's obviously a bad influence on poor Andy.
2006-06-26 16:30:16
69.   rbj
Way to work a walk Andy.
2006-06-26 16:30:20
70.   randym77
And he works a walk! Good enough!
2006-06-26 16:30:49
71.   Schteeve
And now for the real Automatic out.
2006-06-26 16:31:34
72.   rbj
Wow, no one wants Aarron Small.
2006-06-26 16:31:55
73.   Benjamin Kabak
Check swing 2-0?! Who are these people? COME ON, Bubba.
2006-06-26 16:32:22
74.   randym77
Hey, Bubba got on base last night. The ones who didn't were Bernie and A-Rod.
2006-06-26 16:32:37
75.   Schteeve
72 You don't say.
2006-06-26 16:32:41
76.   rbj
Oh well, Yanks did get 2 and ran up Hudson's pitch count.
2006-06-26 16:32:48
77.   Benjamin Kabak
72 Can you blame anyone? After watching Small pitch this season, I wouldn't want him.
2006-06-26 16:33:09
78.   randym77
I'm surprised no one claimed Small. I thought for sure someone would want him.
2006-06-26 16:33:10
79.   Javi Javi
Bernie is 2 for 24 vs. hudson, but is bubba any better?
2006-06-26 16:35:15
80.   rbj
I figured that Tampa or Pittsburgh or KC might have some interest.
2006-06-26 16:37:36
81.   randym77
Bubba has never faced Hudson, so who knows? He hit that one pretty hard. Just right at Giles.

And Bernie's defense in LF gives away as many runs as his bat scores.

I actually thought Toronto might want Small.

2006-06-26 16:38:54
82.   randym77
81 Arghh. Meant RF, of course. I really think Bernie's better in CF, his old stomping grounds. Though obviously he can't play there with Damon in.
2006-06-26 16:43:18
83.   randym77
Wow. Standup double for JD. Didn't look like it would be.
2006-06-26 16:45:20
84.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
For whomever was wondering, tongue in cheek no doubt, about Cairo's numbers vs Hudson -- 4 for 18, well 19 now, with 3 bbs.
2006-06-26 16:45:32
85.   nysports05
Cairo should not be batting second!
2006-06-26 16:45:51
86.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
4 for 20 now.
2006-06-26 16:46:32
87.   Javi Javi
Why is cairo batting 2nd?ugh!
2006-06-26 16:47:04
88.   randym77
84 Those really aren't that bad, all things considered.
2006-06-26 16:47:49
89.   Javi Javi
Cairo should have bunted.
2006-06-26 16:48:28
90.   Schteeve
double dip time jason!
2006-06-26 16:49:52
91.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
88 Well, he came in at .222 ba and that's now down to .200. The obp was .333 coming in. No reason to put him 2nd. Those Jete's numbers are scarcely better.
2006-06-26 16:51:08
92.   Schteeve
91 Say what?
2006-06-26 16:52:18
93.   Schteeve
Do you think giambi is the biggest pain in the ass for a pitcher to have to deal with?
2006-06-26 16:52:29
94.   randym77
YEAH! Giambino does it again!
2006-06-26 16:52:30
95.   rbj
Giambiner !!!!!
2006-06-26 16:52:32
96.   nysports05
WOW!! GIAMBINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2006-06-26 16:52:33
97.   Simone
Way to go, Jason! Excellent at bat.
2006-06-26 16:52:43
98.   Benjamin Kabak
He's making up for those errors yesterday!
2006-06-26 16:52:54
99.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
92 Jeter w/ a .227 ba vs Hudson coming in.
2006-06-26 16:53:23
100.   rbj
Now he needs the salami and the solo shot for the homer cycle.
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2006-06-26 16:53:29
101.   Schteeve
90 Pretty prescient, ain't I?
2006-06-26 16:53:44
102.   BklynBmr
The Giambeno must've had a lotta hate mail after yesterday's game...
2006-06-26 16:53:59
103.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Yeah, Giambi's really not as fearsome up there as Fat Papi.

I mean, if he really wanted to put the fear of the lord into pitchers, he'd save it for extra innings.

2006-06-26 16:54:18
104.   nysports05
Has a lot of innings left to get 3 or even 4 homers.
2006-06-26 16:54:23
105.   Javi Javi
That makes up for last night's fielding.
2006-06-26 16:54:30
106.   nyctarheel87
We're killing another big name pitcher...If we make the playoffs we're set
2006-06-26 16:54:36
107.   kdw
And Giambi hugs Andy.
2006-06-26 16:54:45
108.   Benjamin Kabak
2006-06-26 16:55:46
109.   Schteeve
A-Rod sucks. What's with that walk. And don't even get me started on how he didn't even once help Randy throw a pitch last half inning.
2006-06-26 16:56:29
110.   Benjamin Kabak
109 A-Rod better steal 2nd, 3rd AND home right now.
2006-06-26 16:57:04
111.   randym77
106 I'm hoping they leave Hudson in. I'm afraid of what will happen if they put one of their no-name relievers in.
2006-06-26 16:58:37
112.   rbj
And now A-Rod's padding his steal stats.
2006-06-26 16:59:46
113.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
111 I'm surprised every team just doesn't bring up 3 pitchers from AAA to face the Yanks.
2006-06-26 17:00:25
114.   Schteeve
Man, A-Rod totally distracted Posada with that stolen base, and made him pop out. Idiot.
2006-06-26 17:01:04
115.   randym77
113 LOL!
2006-06-26 17:01:47
116.   nysports05
Now randy can't relax. He has to play like it's close
2006-06-26 17:03:03
117.   Benjamin Kabak
Man, A-Rod should have caught that pop-up to shallow left field. He's awful.
2006-06-26 17:03:45
118.   Benjamin Kabak
And that one! Fly balls to the right field warning track...definitely A-Rod territory. Ugh. I can't stand him. Let's bench him.
2006-06-26 17:04:15
119.   rbj
2006-06-26 17:04:52
120.   randym77
Wow, Randy. Nice inning. Hudson barely had a chance to catch his breath.
2006-06-26 17:05:22
121.   nysports05
Thats what Kay said
2006-06-26 17:06:32
122.   kdw
25 pitches through 3. Gotta love that.
2006-06-26 17:07:30
123.   nyctarheel87
Hudson is finished
2006-06-26 17:08:36
124.   nysports05
I think so too.
2006-06-26 17:09:21
125.   nyctarheel87
Cano doesn't look too hurt with all that smiling on the bench
2006-06-26 17:10:07
126.   Schteeve
I think Huddy is gonna have to take a few innings for the team here.
2006-06-26 17:10:16
127.   nysports05
Haha. He is enjoying himself
2006-06-26 17:10:18
128.   randym77
Cano is always smiling.
2006-06-26 17:10:56
129.   randym77
And Die-az does a Lambeau Leap, to no avail...
2006-06-26 17:11:32
130.   Javi Javi
I love how kitty kat always sympathizes with pitchers when they struggle.
2006-06-26 17:12:58
131.   Schteeve
Johnny Plate Appearance is up again
2006-06-26 17:13:38
132.   kdw
So is that Pavano that they've shown sitting on the bench? No kidding, I barely recognize him if it is.
2006-06-26 17:14:15
133.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Future Yankee Carlos "El Caballo" Lee with a 2-run dinger in the first at Wrigley.
2006-06-26 17:14:40
134.   nyctarheel87
Mid August for Matsui would be tremendous. I wonder how effective he would be though
2006-06-26 17:14:46
135.   Benjamin Kabak
Miguel Cairo's at-bats make me cry. He can't even work the count.
2006-06-26 17:15:07
136.   nysports05
I don't care about the Cubs
2006-06-26 17:15:25
137.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
I'm not watching the game, but can you actually see the relief on Hudson's face when he see's Cairo coming to the plate?
2006-06-26 17:16:15
138.   randym77
All that, and no runs.

I think they're just trying to make sure Hudson doesn't get pulled.

2006-06-26 17:16:18
139.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
136 non sequitor, what?
2006-06-26 17:16:19
140.   rsmith51
137 He owns Melky and Miggy.
2006-06-26 17:19:08
141.   randym77
I'm kind of surprised Melky didn't show more patience. He's known for his high walk rate.
2006-06-26 17:21:54
142.   rbj
Geez, only one out on that catch, Alex? Whatta bum.
2006-06-26 17:22:45
143.   monkeypants
STOP talking about basketball, for cripes sake. Why is MLB so lame--one national channel (FOX) doesn't show any games, and the other (ESPN) talks about other sports??
2006-06-26 17:25:58
144.   Benjamin Kabak
143 Even better: Stop talking about the Red Sox. Yankees fans and Braves fans watching this game don't want to hear about the Red Sox.
2006-06-26 17:27:35
145.   JeremyM
143 I was just going to ask how many times has Sutcliffe said "Big Papi" even though they're not on. The highlight from today has probably aired every half-inning, right?
2006-06-26 17:32:20
146.   nyctarheel87
I know the guy keeps raving about Jeter, but does anyone really take Sutcliffe seriously?
2006-06-26 17:32:20
147.   rbj
Fortunately the game is on EI, I'm getting the YES feed.
2006-06-26 17:34:06
148.   nysports05
What's wrong with arod in the field this year?
2006-06-26 17:35:15
149.   randym77
148 It's gotta be mental.
2006-06-26 17:35:50
150.   Benjamin Kabak
I miss Jon Sciambi. Sutcliffe is a clown.
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2006-06-26 17:35:54
151.   Mattpat11
I'll never understand why the announcers are flabergasted that no one wanted Small.
2006-06-26 17:38:33
152.   Benjamin Kabak
That was a big league at-bag, says Rick, as Wilson Betemit swings at a pitch in the dirt.
2006-06-26 17:40:10
153.   Simone
I totally think A-Rod's problems are metal. He is struggling and being booed so he is distracted in the field.
2006-06-26 17:41:05
154.   Mattpat11
Would you guys let Randy go the whole way tonight?
2006-06-26 17:41:21
155.   randym77
A-Rod's thinking too much. And taking his struggles at the plate into the field.

And maybe trying too hard to make up for the loss of Matsui and Sheff.

2006-06-26 17:41:39
156.   nysports05
If he keeps going like this why not.
2006-06-26 17:41:45
157.   nyctarheel87
Yeah he got off to such a hot start last year that he never had to go through the boos
2006-06-26 17:41:51
158.   BklynBmr
144 When I hit the Lotto, I'm hooking up every diehard Yankee fan with the EI package, just so none of my brothers and sisters have to suffer through Sutcliffe or Joe Morgan doing a Yankees games. I'm feelin' your pain...
2006-06-26 17:43:26
159.   monkeypants
Yeah, Sutcliffe is a fool.
2006-06-26 17:43:43
160.   kdw
154 Dunno, that was a 22-pitch inning. If the next inning is a smooth one, maybe.
2006-06-26 17:44:30
161.   nysports05
Where's Young Buck?
2006-06-26 17:45:05
162.   randym77
Yeah, Andy!
2006-06-26 17:45:14
163.   Mattpat11
I'm going to the game tomorrow. Somehow my game managed to dodge Mussina, Wang and Johnson. I get fucking Wright.
2006-06-26 17:45:17
164.   kdw
2006-06-26 17:46:35
165.   BklynBmr
Go, Andy! Man, it's nice to see a dangerous right-handed power swing in The Stadium. I miss Iron Sheff, and A-Rod just ain't A-Rod yet...
2006-06-26 17:47:13
166.   Mattpat11
160 Even with that, hes only at 62.
2006-06-26 17:47:27
167.   nysports05
What an unbelievable meltdown by that manager in the minors
2006-06-26 17:47:29
168.   monkeypants
144 145 Ah finally, highlights of Ortiz, accompanied by some bogus 'stat' ("Big Papi with his tenth walk-off hit since 2003--leads the major leagues in that category"). Then the announcers have a discursus on Ortiz.
2006-06-26 17:48:37
169.   BklynBmr
167 What happened?
2006-06-26 17:49:32
170.   monkeypants
Melky, I wanna believe...but he's just sliding away.
2006-06-26 17:50:06
171.   kdw
166 True. I'm interested in how this next inning goes and if he can get out of it pretty quickly.
2006-06-26 17:50:57
172.   Benjamin Kabak
Melky's looked horrible lately.

And Todd does he have a job in the Majors still?

2006-06-26 17:51:07
173.   Mattpat11
167 Kenny Clemens (or whatever whacky name the Texas Conman's son has) was called save at second, so the opposing manager ran out, dove into second, picked the bag up, ran it to the umpire, thew it into CF, ran to home plate, covered it in dirt on his hands and knees, ran into the dugout, threw bats out on to the field, came back out and poured water all over homeplate.
2006-06-26 17:51:11
174.   randym77
Boy, the Yankees batters sure got impatient all of a sudden. Jorgie saw two pitches, Bubba saw two, Melky saw three. Andy saw one, but since he hit it for a double, I can't complain. :)
2006-06-26 17:52:42
175.   randym77

2006-06-26 17:55:15
176.   BklynBmr
173 LOL! I don't know what's funnier, the manager losing the plot or 'Texas Conman'! Thanks, I love it... that should be on SportsCenter tonight.
2006-06-26 17:59:13
177.   BklynBmr
175 Thanks for the link, randym — no sh*t... that was classic a meltdown... 10 game suspension easy...
2006-06-26 18:01:30
178.   randym77
C'mon, Randy. Now would be a good time to strike 'em out.
2006-06-26 18:03:28
179.   Simone
Nice, RJ.
2006-06-26 18:03:35
180.   randym77
Yeah! That's the Randy of old.
2006-06-26 18:03:37
181.   rbj
Ohhhhh yea!
2006-06-26 18:04:27
182.   rbj
And Tarheels Beavers knotted at 2 through 6.
2006-06-26 18:04:39
183.   kdw
166 I'm thinking the last 2 innings have taken too much out of him. You?
2006-06-26 18:06:05
184.   Mattpat11
Uh oh. 27 year old career minor leaguer making his debut. We have issues with these guys
2006-06-26 18:06:21
185.   randym77
Oh, no. Not another pitcher on his major league debut.
2006-06-26 18:06:25
186.   nyctarheel87
oh no!! There's that dreaded rookie pitcher
2006-06-26 18:06:55
187.   nysports05
We should show this pitcher a little something about the majors.
2006-06-26 18:07:16
188.   kdw
And nice, Sutcliffe rubs last night's game in our face.
2006-06-26 18:17:45
189.   randym77
Peter Abraham posted this in the comments of his blog, about Cano:

"If I had to pick, I'd say he's going on the DL tomorrow. But at least it's not a serious thing that will kep him out a month. At least it doesn't appear that way. With the All-Star break coming up, they may catch a break."

2006-06-26 18:19:42
190.   Mattpat11
Is Johnson or Clemens the active K leader? I think they should be somewhat close.
2006-06-26 18:20:28
191.   nysports05
2006-06-26 18:20:54
192.   nyctarheel87
190. Clemens is barely. The ESPN guys were joking earlier that he was coming back because Randy was getting too close to it
2006-06-26 18:21:03
193.   nysports05
By over a 100 I believe
2006-06-26 18:21:06
194.   Mattpat11
Nevermind. Roger has 4500 something
2006-06-26 18:22:03
195.   rbj
Clemens 4502
Unit 4372
entering this season, I think.
is your friend
2006-06-26 18:23:20
196.   Mattpat11
Roger 4506 Randy 4457
2006-06-26 18:24:00
197.   rbj
I think the Unit is back.
2006-06-26 18:24:07
198.   vockins
The only reason I'm logging in is to declare that I thought that Francoeur AB was hilarious. I'm amazed he walks at all.
2006-06-26 18:25:14
199.   Mattpat11
let him go out there and try for ten!.

Okay, not really.

2006-06-26 18:26:35
200.   monkeypants
Clemens is only up about 50 K or so, after missing the first half of this season. Right now Johnson has 4450+, Clemens 4500+.
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2006-06-26 18:26:36
201.   rbj
At this point, all I can do is laugh.
2006-06-26 18:27:32
202.   monkeypants
196 Grrrr...beat me to it.
2006-06-26 18:28:50
203.   rbj
Yeah, Andy!
2006-06-26 18:29:00
204.   randym77
Yowsah. Andy's en fuego.
2006-06-26 18:29:04
205.   Mattpat11
We need to get Andy back up for the cycle.
2006-06-26 18:31:28
206.   Mattpat11
Bubba Crosby at bats make the baby jesus cry. I miss Bernie.
2006-06-26 18:33:30
207.   hensley
Phillips has a Giambi-esque 1.000 OPS in June.
2006-06-26 18:36:26
208.   Benjamin Kabak
I'm glad Torre considers these Proctor-worthy innings. I'm not quite sure what that says about Proctor or Torre. But it's hard to believe they couldn't just throw Mike Myers or someone who hasn't thrown 300 innings already this season.
2006-06-26 18:37:28
209.   kdw
Please, someone get these guys a date with Jeter.
2006-06-26 18:39:28
210.   randym77
Who's going to pitch the 9th? Proctor?
2006-06-26 18:39:36
211.   rbj
Ya know, for all the grief Kay gets, he's a dam sight better than Sutcliffe.
2006-06-26 18:39:46
212.   monkeypants
Now, the Ortiz for MVP discussion begins. I love ESPN.
2006-06-26 18:39:54
213.   nyctarheel87
Sutcliffe is actually ripping Ortiz somewhat, i don't believe it
2006-06-26 18:40:37
214.   nysports05
Ortiz should never be an MVP as a DH
2006-06-26 18:41:32
215.   3rd gen yankee fan
214 Agreed.
2006-06-26 18:42:38
216.   rbj
Can we see Beam or Smith for the ninth?
2006-06-26 18:42:47
217.   nyctarheel87
214 He's also hitting .266
2006-06-26 18:42:59
218.   Mattpat11
I'm not watching. Has Sutcliffe called Varitek the MVP of the league yet? Or the best player on the Red Sox?
2006-06-26 18:44:22
219.   kdw
218 No, he's actually going with Jeter as MVP.
2006-06-26 18:45:10
220.   Mattpat11
I'm shocked. Varitek must have cheated on him.
2006-06-26 18:46:38
221.   rbj
Holy crap. Tarheel player tried to steal home in the 8th inning with the bases loaded. He actually made it, but the batter swung & missed at strike three.
2006-06-26 18:47:48
222.   monkeypants
217 But Ortiz is leading the league in walk-off hits since 2003, with 10--didn't you hear?
2006-06-26 18:49:02
223.   nyctarheel87
222. oh crap i almost forgot about that
2006-06-26 18:49:55
224.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Arragh, Melky and Bubba... well at least that give us the best defensive outfield we had in ages
2006-06-26 18:51:09
225.   kdw
220 Nah, just a little birthday present for DJ.
2006-06-26 18:52:20
226.   randym77
If Cano goes on the DL...who gets called up?
2006-06-26 18:53:29
227.   Yu-Hsing Chen
ehh.... Proctor again?
2006-06-26 18:54:28
228.   Mattpat11
Proctor sucks. Get Rivera in there now.
2006-06-26 18:54:29
229.   randym77
Thanks a lot, Scotty.
2006-06-26 18:54:39
230.   Benjamin Kabak
Great. Now we can bring in Rivera to get the save. Thank you, Scott Proctor.
2006-06-26 18:54:54
231.   Simone
Is Mo warming up?! I'm terrified already.
2006-06-26 18:54:58
232.   nysports05
Now lets talk about the Knicks. I can't wait till they get back to the finals
2006-06-26 18:55:08
233.   kdw
Ugh, one inning too many. Why, why ask him to pitch a second one?
2006-06-26 18:55:43
234.   rbj
Everyone who lives in the city, you need to get together sometime and kidnap Proctor for a week. Stash him at Scores or some such place, just keep Torre from using him for a week.
2006-06-26 18:56:05
235.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Oi... Joe.....
2006-06-26 18:56:10
236.   nysports05
2006-06-26 18:57:04
237.   Mattpat11

Christ Proctor sucks.

2006-06-26 18:58:05
238.   3rd gen yankee fan
Ok now I'm worried. I hate worrying.
2006-06-26 18:58:32
239.   rabid stan
It's not Proctor's fault Torre has a thing for him. You don't get to decide who falls in love with you.
2006-06-26 18:59:59
240.   Mattpat11
Proctor should switch to a job he's more suited for.
2006-06-26 19:00:14
241.   randym77
I think Proctor was the only one who hadn't pitched yesterday.

Freakin' rain.

2006-06-26 19:01:25
242.   Benjamin Kabak
236 Can we please not mention the Knicks in the same sentence as the Yanks ever again?
2006-06-26 19:02:33
243.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Joe got to make up his mind what he want Proctor as and use him accordingly... not using him in all the roles at once...
2006-06-26 19:02:46
244.   Benjamin Kabak
Lip-reading upset managers is so easy.

Cox should be tossed already.

2006-06-26 19:02:56
245.   Mattpat11
242 Even at the low point of the year, I was able to say "thank christ the Yankee aren't the Braves"
2006-06-26 19:03:08
246.   rabid stan
The ump kinda looked like Sean Astin.
2006-06-26 19:03:10
247.   rbj
WTF is Bobby Cox doing arguing. That sure looked like a strike to me.
2006-06-26 19:03:39
248.   Mattpat11
2006-06-26 19:04:41
249.   nyctarheel87
"The Braves are falling but not failing." The genius of Rick Sutcliffe
2006-06-26 19:04:50
250.   Mattpat11
Walks by Mariano always seem to end in tears.
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2006-06-26 19:04:56
251.   nysports05
It's because he didn't expect to come in
2006-06-26 19:05:05
252.   Benjamin Kabak
245, 248 Ok. That's an acceptable use of Yanks/Knicks in the same sentence.
2006-06-26 19:05:21
253.   rbj
Ah Lyndon's kid. Strike this puppy out.
2006-06-26 19:05:47
254.   randym77
Proctor hadn't pitched for five days. You'd think he could handle two innings.
2006-06-26 19:06:12
255.   monkeypants
Mo's not looking too comfortable tonight.
2006-06-26 19:06:20
256.   rbj
2006-06-26 19:06:30
257.   kdw
Love Mo. He's the best.
2006-06-26 19:06:51
258.   nysports05
I love the yankees and knicks
2006-06-26 19:07:15
259.   rbj
254 It was 5 days for Proctor? goddam goldbricking lazy layabout.
2006-06-26 19:09:17
260.   Bama Yankee
Are the Tar Heels going to pull it out?
2006-06-26 19:09:23
261.   randym77
LOL! I'm pretty sure the last time we saw Proctor pitch was the 21st.
2006-06-26 19:32:54
262.   kdw
Post-game report on Cano is that "it's not too bad but that doesn't mean he'll play in the next week or 10 days". Torre wants to talk to Cashman about what the minor league call-up options are before deciding whether to DL Cano.
2006-06-26 19:38:42
263.   randym77
Nick Green? o_O

Or Andy Phillips?

2006-06-26 19:52:40
264.   rabid stan
I think Phillips has played 2B before. I kinda like the idea, since it would mean that Cairo doesn't spend the next ten days in the lineup batting second.

The right side defense would be truly awful, though. Andy's been good at first but he'd be questionable at second. Giambi would be playing first, mostly, unless they shoe-horn Cairo in there, so he might be batting anyway... I think I might have talked myself out of it.

I wish Cano had hit that one out. No one injures himself on the home run trot.

2006-06-26 20:20:18
265.   Simone
Good win! Mariano shut the door.

I just saw Dolan and Zeke on SportsCenter. Wow, Zeke is under the gun. Dolan wants measurable progress. I can see the Knicks winning about 10 to 15 more games under Zeke which will give Dolan and Knicks' fans a false sense of optimism.

2006-06-26 20:23:40
266.   kdw
Announcers had some idle speculation about having Andy play 3rd and moving A-Rod to 2d but it wasn't serious. They said they asked Torre this afternoon if it was an option to move Andy around if Cano went on the DL and at that point Torre said no, he thought they would bring someone else up, he didn't want to move Andy off 1st altho Andy has played other positions.
2006-06-26 20:33:52
267.   monkeypants
No, I really like Nick Green--then we have a legitimate PH for Cairo.
2006-06-26 20:35:09
268.   Cliff Corcoran
264 Except for Gabe Kapler, who injured himself on someone else's home run trot.

Andy was a full time second baseman for a few seasons in the minors, but I cringe at the thought of a rusty Andy and Giambi as the right side defense, though it might be worth trying Andy at second and promoting Carlos Pena to fill the gap at first, leaving Giambi at DH.

2006-06-26 20:48:08
269.   Yu-Hsing Chen
plzzzzzzzzzz build some momentuem this time around......
2006-06-26 20:54:59
270.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Lost in all the recent games though is that since Moose got owned by Ryan Howard a week ago the Yankee starters have been pretty darn good...

Wright: 5IP 0ER
Wang : 7IP 4ER
Moose : 7IP 1ER
Chacon: 5IP 2ER
RJ : 7IP 0ER

over the last 5 game, the Yankee starters have averaged 6.02 innings per outting and a 2.03 ERA

Here's to hope that this good run of starter performance can continue.

2006-06-26 20:57:09
271.   rabid stan
268 If it wasn't his own trot, it doesn't count. So it's back to the archives for you, Cliff.
2006-06-27 02:53:49
272.   randym77
270 Good point. If we ever get the pitching and the bats working at the same time, we'll be styling.

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