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There's not much that needs to be said about tonight's game that can't be summed up by this chart:
Name | W-L | IP | H | HR | BB | K | BAA | WHIP | ERA |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Mussina | 5-1 | 46 | 37 | 3 | 8 | 42 | .215 | 0.98 | 2.35 |
Schilling | 5-1 | 47 2/3 | 40 | 4 | 7 | 45 | .225 | 0.99 | 3.02 |
Schilling and Mussina have just one non-quality start between them this year in 14 tries, that being Schilling's fifth start of the year in which the Indians touched him up for five runs on nine hits and two walks in 6 2/3 innings despite striking out eight times in that span. The Indians, incidentally, currently lead the majors in runs per game, edging the Yankees by less than six one-thousandths of a run.
Baseball Prospectus's Jim Baker provides a brief history of the three prior head-to-head matchups between these two borderline Hall of Famers, both of whom are improving their chances of enshrinement weekly. He also reminds us that both were both minor leaguers with the Orioles in 1990, Mussina cracking triple-A for the first time that year and Schilling splitting time between starting in triple-A (prior to Mussina's mid-season promotion) and relieving in the majors in his second of three stops before finding a home with the Phillies.
I wonder if Glenn Davis will be watching tonight.
Speaking of the Moose-Schilling connection, I saw a Rochester Red Wings doubleheader in 1990. I don't think either Moose or Schilling pitched in it, but I don't remember for sure. I only remember those two games because Sam Horn (yes, that Sam Horn) hit three homers that day - his last one a grand slam that was absolutely obliterated. I've never seen a ball hit that far in person.
May 27, 2004
Yankees
Tanyon Sturtze cherry picks a win last night with this line:
1/3 IP, 2 H, 2 runs allowed (inherited).
Great job dumbass, keep it up.
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And here's my all time awful Yankee team (1989 to 2004):
http://tinyurl.com/zhfv9
Johnny Damon CF
Derek Jeter SS
Jason Giambi 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Hideki Matsui LF
Jorge Posada C
Robinson Canó 2B
Bernie Williams DH
Melky Cabrera RF
And for the Sox:
Kevin Youkilis 1B
Mark Loretta 2B
David Ortiz DH
Manny Ramirez LF
Trot Nixon RF
Jason Varitek C
Mike Lowell 3B
Willie Harris CF
Alex Gonzalez SS
Are you looking for ball/strike breakdowns or general workload? BP's pitcher abuse stats are pretty cool.
Schilling leads the majors in 'abuse' by a comfortable margin, having 1 start under 120 pitches, 3 starts 101-109, 2 starts 110-121, and 1 start over 133 pitches.
Moose: 3 under 100, 3 at 101-109, and 1 at 110-121.
Ending my day early- go Yanks!
Hughes got his first win at AA.
6.0IP 5H 2ER 2R 1BB 5SO
Now, it all works out in the short term...until Smith happens to be called up. Then, we must determine if Smith can pitch if either Cabrera or Phillips is on the field.
I also really like the commitment to having the DH bat 8 or 9--just more evidence of the "circular line-up" that Sterling raves about.
Ouch -- that's like a Bermuda Triangle of bad announcers
Crud. I hate Ortiz.
I know, I predicted Ortiz's HR just a second ago.
Hey I predicted A Rod's strike out: we match!
At least Terry Francona did the Yanks a favor and started Willie Harris.
I'd rather have Lowell hit a homer than walk him. He's someone you got to challenge -- do that to the whole RS line up except Manny & Papi -- plunk those guys.
C'mon, Melky! Pad that 1.333 OPS of yours. ;-)
Okay, its not meant to be.
27 we should pat ourselves in the back. although those two predictions were pretty logic.
who would have predicted the lowell hr and that damn lucky catch by manny. he did it with his eyes closed.
I know these are some of the best hitters but so were the others he faced in toronto
damn shift, it would have been a 1-2-3 inning. I hate it.
Good job by Moose there, pitch into and out of trouble, keep your team in the game.
lets get the fat clown and get over this.
73 Rob, Oh my goodness what are you trying to say? He does look thin. You don't think he's bulimic do you? I hope not.
And now our killer bottom of the order is up. ;-)
Let's go, Yan-kees!
he's fun to watch because you know that every at bat is going to be a good one. he's really focused, and just detects almost 70% of what the pitcher is throwing.
Its a real pitty that he had to endure all those injuries, self-induced by steriods or not.
Guys need to watch Giambi and learn to be selective. Giambi MAKES the pitcher throw to him.
I hear you tocho.
now........ who comes in for the next 3 adventurous innings?????
we need to score a few more on the merthiolate clown. I feel a rally coming...
Maybe that'll get the monkey off your back...
Good freakin lord. What a shot.
cheer and cheer long and hard!!!
It's batting practice time!
He's batting something like .400 against Schilling, isn't he?
Schteeeeeve nice call. Mattp nice call.
Bring it home Moose....
Melky's looked good at the plate & on the field.
"Posada...a rainbow to right"
Chris, you have no idea.
Now Joe.. plz don't bring in Sturtze and Small or use Myer against Ortiz and we should be on our way
Proctor's warming. And I don't mind.
Three run lead for the pen and another quality start for Moose. Better yet, three dings of The Mouth That Roared. Ahhhhhh.
Proctor
Farns
Mo.
Unless Proctor rolls through the seventh, we could save Farns.
I'm feelin' good. Bring it home Moose. Hand it to Mariano and let's put the Stockings to bed tonight.
186 I'm not sure.. he is close to 100 pitch.. and with the 9th guy up I think this might be a good time to put Proctor in...
If we can get another run or two here I definatlye put Proctor in
I say (and I called the rally 123 so I make the moves tonight) Mussina comes out again for the 7th. to get Gonzalez, Youk and Loretta. If one of them gets on, you call proctor and/or myers if ortiz is up.
8th, farns 9th Mo.
that should do it.
Now it all changes if we hit Holtz. I have no idea who he is
not a bad deal he has. Just hang in the bench, cheer a little and we'll give you 10 mill a year....
Oh, and screw the bunt here. Bad move.
I don't understand having Melky bunt but hey, the '31 Yanks scored over 1000 runs and they had 87 sac bunts, so I guess I shouldn't worry too much.
I imagine if Moose struggles here, we'll see Proctor right away.
Ah well, let's hope we can burn the Sox pen here and get a big advantage tomorrow.
But I agree with him this time. Moose is almost out of gas, and Big Papi's up next.
Unless Mo needs the work, I'd actually say let Proctor pitch the 9th, presuming its against the bottom of the Sox order.
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE! Whatta performance.
Gotta be Farns now, right?
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5063
But failing that, Farns.
We'll get this game if we get out of the 7th.
I mean, who do you think he is? Aaron Small?
(j/k)
Great point Cliff 261.
My only fear is that Proctor pitches well until, say, the end of May, and then slowly implodes but keeps his job - we've seen that Tanyon song before. But with Dotel coming back, maybe we don't need to worry about that.
Cal certainly could have used days off some seasons.
(Guess this means Bubba's pitching career is over... ;-)
Wow, John O'Hurley is at the game! And Spike Lee. Rem-dawg just said, "Its gotta be the shoes." These NESN guys are pretty much giving up.
Time for the K, Mo.
I'm not quiet sure on the Mets yet, they are good, but their front rotation abosalutely needs to stay up .... their rotation depth isn't good... unless they can get more pitchers through trade... and the Phillies are one hell of a dynamite team that can really catch up on you fast when they are on..
Any New Yorkers have an early weather report for tomorrow night's game? Should we expect the knuckleball to be effective or not?
I checked the NWS forecast, they're calling for chilly conditions and showers. Could make the ball tough to grip with a light touch. I am so hoping it does anyway.
I think Cliff has got it right all along...I have confidence in tomorrow's game.
356 I'm not a Dusty Baker fan, or much of a Bonds fan either, but it would be kinda cool if Bonds hits 2 more homers against the Cubs. Then Dusty will have seen both Aaron and Bonds hit their 715th homers.
Something that RJ is incapable of doing, and therein lies the difference.
I think RJ may just be too proud or something, because he seems incapable of making adjustments. When he doesn't have it, he can't win. When Moose doesn't have it, he can still hang in there.
He's clutch, man.
Just something about him I don't like at all.
And how 'bout that Melkie, btw? Nice game tonight, that walk he drew? Good job, kid.
I know Myers as the LOOGY's supposed to come in, but after the game he had, I'd have felt much more confident with Moose.
And nice work by Procter, at any rate.
But because the shift was on... the Yankees looked like fools when that slow grounder to second ended up being an single...
Proctor have just been huge.... any time anyone can come in with 2 out 2 on and Manny and the plate and strikes him out... he's just awsome.
Other switch hitters have stopped switch hitting before.. I can't see why Bernie shouldn't at least give it a shot... his splits are so putrid that even if he is somewhat below the league average in splits from the same side he'll still be hittings eons better against righties than he is now
Moose got his sixth.
Schilling's shortest outing.
All the talk about the shifting curse and who is whose daddy is so much piffle. Two good teams going at it over a period of years and generating some great results has been fun to watch. On one side they pound us on the other we get our selves up and get up at 'em again. We really can't ask for more. In years to come people won't believe how good this really was. It's exhausting to watch sometimes, playing against a great opponent often is. I just wish I didn't despise them so much. Then again maybe its better this way.
Just something about him I don't like at all."
Oh please. What a cop out. Nothing lamer than a "I don't like him, don't know why, just something about him". You DO know why.
1. Schilling's a loud mouth (no doubt about it)
2. He's a republican, ny is a very liberal city.
3. He's a great pitcher who 's owned the yankees in the past and has been a huge part of their downfall in two seasons.
4. He's a red sox. (ortiz is booed by ny, and he's a great guy, but a great guy who plays on the sox)
If there's no number 3, number 1 and 2 don't matter.
And yet we, the fans, are two faced. We cheer jerks (randy johnson) when our team aquires them, and we cheer former players we hate (clemens, damon). You don't think yankee fans would be singing the praises of pedro if they could get him from the mets?
And this isn't just yankee fans, it's every team's fans. But don't claim it's just "something about them".
But, to pick apart your argument a bit:
Actually, I can think of a TON of things lamer than that statement, but thats besides the point...
Its not jsut that Schilling is a loud mouth, loud mouths are common in sports, and in NYC for that matter. And its not just that hes a republican, heck, almost ALL baseball players are republicans, they are, after all, rich...And its not that he has "owned" the Yanks in the past because, if you look at the numbers, thats simply not true. In the regular season the Yanks have hit him to the tune of a 4.54 era and a 5-4 record, hardly dominant. And in the postseason, yeah he was very good in 2001 (but for that matter, so was almost every pitcher against the Yanks, that was a VERY weak lineup), but in 2004, well, you can't really look at those #s and read into them. One bad injury game, one good game...And its also not really that he is a Sox, because there are plenty of guys on the Sox who we don't boo, and Ortiz gets booed because he not only hits the crap out of the ball against us, but he isn't exactly mister modest or mr. hustle when he hits a HR or makes an out...
So, in any case, there are lost of reasons to hate Schilling, but it actually IS hard to pinpoint just why he is so totally loathesome. Probably all of those combined, mostly his obssessive drive to proclaim himself the master of all things.
So keep your bitter comments to yourself, if they actually say something, fine, if not, well...
Do you ever look at stats or do you just believe that whatever you think must be true?
Here's Schilling's career regular season line against the Yanks:
5 W 4 L 4.54 ERA 0 15 G 10 GS 1 CG 69.1 IN 68 H 35 ER 35 R 11 HR 26 BB 64 SO
He's far from owned the Yanks. The few decent starts are long in the past, tough guy, as in the 2001 Serious. And of course those numbers above don't include this most recent dandy of a line:
5.0 IP 8 H 6 ER 6 R 2 BB 5 SO 3 HR
Yup, he's owned us. Somebody just forgot to tell him.
Unfortunately the Sux fans that come around these parts seem to be missing theirs.
And while I did hate Roger, never really warming to him until he won the game where Pedro threw down Zim (that was the day he became a Yankee, in my mind), I never hated Damon. He's a tough player to hate.
Remember when he collided with his right fielder in that game (I think in Oakland?) a couple years ago? That was fucking hard-nosed. He's a tough player to hate.
Of course I hate Schilling's Bushloving, so maybe that's really what it comes down to, in the end, what puts him over the top on my villain list.
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