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Rainy Day? Let Them Play!
2006-04-23 08:28
by Cliff Corcoran
Note: The Bronx Banter blog has moved to bronxbanterblog.com.

On a cold rainy afternoon in the Bronx, Shawn Chacon returned to the rotation to work his low BABIP magic against the Orioles. Turning in his first solid start of the season, Chacon only threw 57 percent of 111 pitches for strikes over seven innings, struck out just three and walked just as many, but somehow managed to hold the O's to one run on four hits. That means that just four of the 22 balls in play fell for hits, a .182 BABIP.

The Yankee bats, meanwhile, plated single runs against Daniel Cabrera in the third and fourth (the first a lead-off walk by Robinson Cano, yes you read that right, that came around to score, the second a lead-off single by Alex Rodriguez that also came around to score), then broke the game open in the sixth. That inning started with a walk to Sheffield, a Rodriguez single, and Jason Giambi's third walk in as many trips. Hideki Matsui then cracked a bases-loaded double to plate Sheff and Rodriguez and drive Cabrera from the game. After John Halama came on and got Bernie Williams to ground out, Robinson Cano drew his second walk of the game (and the season!), Kelly Stinnett popped out, and Johnny Damon reached on an infield single to Tejada at short that plated Bubba Crosby, who had come on to run for Giambi perhaps because of the weather. Eddy Rodriguez then relieved Halama and started his day by walking Derek Jeter to force in another run.

And that was the ball game. Chacon, Farnsworth and Villone combined to hold the Orioles to a pair of singles (both off Farnsworth) over the remaining three innings and the Yanks won it 6-1.

Today they hope to find another break in the rain to play the rubber game of the series. Jorge Posada will make his second start behind the plate with Randy Johnson on the mound as Johnson looks to rebound from his awful start in Toronto last time out. Bruce Chen has similar things in mind as he was absolutely lit up by the Indians in his last turn, giving up eight runs on eight hits, two of them home runs, and three walks in four innings. Last year, Chen faced Johnson in the Bronx in his first start of the year and handled the Yankees well only to have his bullpen blow the game. After that, the Yankee had his number, dropping 18 runs on him in 10 2/3 innings across their final three meetings. Here's hoping that trend continues today.

Comments (184)
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2006-04-23 09:12:46
1.   randym77
Weather.com says "few showers" for NYC today. Hopefully they'll be able to play.
2006-04-23 09:14:09
2.   Jeteupthemiddle
I must ask, what is BABIP (something something something In Play?) and what is a good BABIP number?
2006-04-23 09:16:27
3.   dtrain
Jete, it's Batting Average on Balls in Play. But I have no idea what a good one is...
2006-04-23 09:17:24
4.   randym77
2 See this previous article by Cliff:

https://bronxbanter.baseballtoaster.com/archives/343976.html

2006-04-23 09:25:56
5.   Dimelo
Nice piece on Alex and his book 'Stepping Up'.
http://tinyurl.com/hd7sy
2006-04-23 09:30:50
6.   Jeteupthemiddle
So you want a BABIP of about .300? I guess I don't get this stat. You would think you would want the batting average of balls put in play to be low. Is this a defense independent thing? Eh. Oh well.
2006-04-23 09:38:39
7.   fgasparini
6 JUTM, a pitcher DOES want a low BABIP, just as intuition suggests. What's not intuitive is that MOST pitchers seem to have LITTLE control over BABIP. I other words, Chacon had a surprisingly low number last year, and the fear was that his success was based on a fluke, and that this year he'd be more like every other pitcher.

That is to say, last year's low BABIP is perhaps more likely a result of having 'em hit to fielders all year long than Chacon being such a great pitcher.

However, some pitchers do seem to have consistently low BABIP. Chacon may be one. I do know that BABIP is the subject of a lot of discussion, it's not at the "high OPS=good" stage.

2006-04-23 09:41:41
8.   randym77
Andy Phillips is playing 1st, with Giambi DHing. Because "they want to see how many at-bats it will take to make him a contributor off the bench," or something like that.
2006-04-23 09:49:59
9.   Jeteupthemiddle
7 Thanks. That makes sense. So you want it low, just not too low because you don't want it to be a fluke.
2006-04-23 10:00:28
10.   yankz
Can someone explain how stats are adjusted for park factors? Thanks.
2006-04-23 10:06:17
11.   sam2175
Jeteup,

I think most contend that pitchers do not have much control over the BABIP. So, if someone posts lower than average in that department, then that is considered good luck rather than skill. So, going forward, if a pitcher's numbers have been products of such good luck, they are generally expected to level out. But with Chacon's history, it might be a skill for him.

If a groundball pitcher has bad luck (or IF defense, if you may), it can literally kill his stats. The latest person to suffer from this is Kevin Brown, which has resulted in his retirement.

2006-04-23 10:06:27
12.   Zack
Looks like a delay
2006-04-23 10:14:13
13.   randym77
They said they were starting at 1:30. They want to make sure the weather will allow the game to be played before they send Randy out there.
2006-04-23 10:48:33
14.   rsmith51
Alex,

Just out of curiousity what play in high school did you get the lead in?

2006-04-23 10:52:06
15.   yankaholic
has randy dropped his arm angle a tinge today?? looks he is just lowering it a tad bit..
2006-04-23 11:02:01
16.   Stormer Sports
There's the RJ we all know and love.
2006-04-23 11:09:31
17.   Stormer Sports
Giambino!
2006-04-23 11:09:58
18.   yankz
Hell yeah!
2006-04-23 11:10:41
19.   Marcus
There's the Bruce Chen we all know and love.
2006-04-23 11:10:59
20.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Giambi now has 4 hits of Chen -- 3 of them homers.
2006-04-23 11:12:58
21.   Cliff Corcoran
Re: BABIP explanations: I'm hoping that the previous post which I linked the first mention of BABIP to above explains it all sufficiently. In general, if there's a term you're not familiar with and there's a link on first mention, follow the link and you'll likely get your answer. It's one of the benefits of hypertext, you can skip the explaination for those who don't need it and link to it for those who do.
2006-04-23 11:16:02
22.   Cliff Corcoran
Andy Phillips just showed up.
2006-04-23 11:16:50
23.   yankz
Yahoo Phillips!
2006-04-23 11:16:59
24.   Marcus
That must feel good for Andy.
2006-04-23 11:18:22
25.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Someone give that rook a "One of Joe's Guys" official t-shirt please.
2006-04-23 11:18:40
26.   Stormer Sports
Way to go Andy!
2006-04-23 11:19:02
27.   Stormer Sports
Ooops, then the baserunning bungle.
2006-04-23 11:19:12
28.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Zaun, 3-run bomb off Clement.
2006-04-23 11:19:35
29.   Cliff Corcoran
Nice AB by Phillips. He took the first four pitches, strike one was actually a ball outside (he and Matsui can chat about that one), strike two was boarderline on the outside corner. After that second strike, Chen tried to jam him and he fought it off to right center for an RBI single.
2006-04-23 11:19:37
30.   yankz
Oh. Crap.
2006-04-23 11:21:15
31.   singledd
Does anyone here remember this Blog last April/May. Giambi was a hot topic. Everyone who wanted him gone (and there wew quite a few) raise your hand.

I think Giambi has a shot at MVP. He's not the talent that ARod is, but he steps up more in tough/clutch situations.

Poor Andy Phillips. I think he's so worried about making an impression, he seems to be in a continuous brain cramp. At least he got an RBI hit.

2006-04-23 11:21:24
32.   Stormer Sports
And he went back ass first, lol. Oh Andy.
2006-04-23 11:22:22
33.   Levy2020
31 I wanted him gone. Miguel Cairo hit better than him and Giambi cheated.

Now he's the sickest hitter in the game and should take the #3 spot so someone can drive in his freakish number of walks.

2006-04-23 11:23:18
34.   Dimelo
This umpire has a wide strikezone. At least on balls aways, not so much the inside.
2006-04-23 11:23:30
35.   Cliff Corcoran
Singleton and Kaat are ragging on Denny Naegle and his train whistle. Hilarious.
2006-04-23 11:23:33
36.   yankaholic
Cano took some time to get going last year too, but he was in every game.. if Joe sticks Andy in 4-5 games together and relaxes him a bit, we can get decent production out of Andy.
2006-04-23 11:25:19
37.   Stormer Sports
singledd,

You're right! I never thought Giambi should go. In fact, if anything, I think playing Phillips is unfair to Giambi, certainly not unfair to Andy.

2006-04-23 11:26:12
38.   yankz
Does the clutch hit from Phillips overwhelm all the previous K's? And is this really Joe trusting the 1B, or is Cashman calling the shots?
2006-04-23 11:26:35
39.   Mattpat11
Did he just walk Chris Gomez?
2006-04-23 11:29:18
40.   yankz
And by overwhelm, I mean does it overwhelm all the previous struggles in Joe's eyes.
2006-04-23 11:29:43
41.   yankaholic
Most of these calls are Cashman's.. he did Cano too.. Andy can be servicable.. and Giambi should learnt to be a proper DH.. he is not a reliable 1B.
2006-04-23 11:30:24
42.   Cliff Corcoran
Phillips has started three of the last four games and just came through with a go-ahead RBI hit. He should settle in nicely if he keeps getting playing time. Interesing, however, that the next game will see the Yanks facing Scott Kazmir. Kazmir's a lefty, so it would make sense to see Phillips get another shot, but Kazmir is also the pitcher who essentially killed his 2005 season by putting him on the path to a 5 K day and Joe Torre's doghouse. You know I'd love to see a rematch, though history could repeat itself.
2006-04-23 11:31:14
43.   yankaholic
When u have to throw Home from 1B, do i trust Giambi.. NO.. i donno abt Andy, but he has to have a better arm right??
2006-04-23 11:31:34
44.   yankz
Nice AB from the captain.
2006-04-23 11:33:56
45.   Stormer Sports
Jete is off to a great start this year! Love him in th 2 hole, right where he belongs.
2006-04-23 11:36:06
46.   Cliff Corcoran
Jeter's such a team player, getting himself picked off to make Phillips feel better. What a guy!

43 From what I've seen Phillips is an excellend defensive first baseman. As for his arm, he plays a solid 3B too, which should tell you all you need to know about his throwing.

2006-04-23 11:36:13
47.   yankz
Damn you, small ball!
2006-04-23 11:37:35
48.   yankz
ENOUGH WITH THE DAMN SMALL BALL!!!
2006-04-23 11:38:07
49.   Cliff Corcoran
Love seeing these guys making things happen with all of these hit and runs and steals. If they weren't doing that they would have had just one measly run. Instead they have two outs. Love that small ball!
2006-04-23 11:40:45
50.   Bill
That was 3 straight outs on the basepaths if you're scoring at home.
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2006-04-23 11:41:20
51.   Stormer Sports
Giambi is en fuego. Might be time to move Arod out of the 4 spot.
2006-04-23 11:41:28
52.   Marcus
And what's the need for "manufacturing" runs against Bruce Chen? Isn't it just a matter of time before the Yanks send him to the clubhouse with 6 ER on his line? Make him prove that assumption wrong before you start wasting outs.
2006-04-23 11:41:37
53.   Cliff Corcoran
Nice day from the DH spot by Giambi! Too bad the Yankees ran themselves out of two runs. That could have been a three-run job with one run already in.
2006-04-23 11:41:56
54.   yankaholic
Cliff, thats the point.. we have pretty low production out of DH, eith GOB et al, if we swap Giambi to DH (and he gwts comfy there) an average Andy offense with better defense should help us.. and everytime Giambi bends and reaches to get one from the dirt.. i am afraid of his back..
2006-04-23 11:42:06
55.   yankz
Where's your small ball now?!?! Just wasted a grand slam.

Oh, and Giambi owns.

2006-04-23 11:42:24
56.   Marcus
Shoulda, coulda, woulda been 6-1 right now.
2006-04-23 11:42:26
57.   Cliff Corcoran
52 Nice call, without the two outs on the bases it would be 6 ER right now.
2006-04-23 11:43:19
58.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
Well, at least Arod had the good sense not to try and steal a goddamned base with Giambi up.
2006-04-23 11:43:47
59.   Simone
Why are these guys trying to steal bases when they are hitting Chen? Enough already!
2006-04-23 11:45:02
60.   Cliff Corcoran
54 Hey, a few more days like this from Giambi at DH and I'll be in 100% agreement. But let's see him do it against someone other than Bruce Chen before we get too excited. His 1B/DH splits remain overwhelming and large samples outweigh small ones (which is as obvious as it sounds).
2006-04-23 11:45:23
61.   Schteeve
Has Giambi "earned his pinstripes" yet? What's the general concensus?
2006-04-23 11:45:39
62.   singledd
MVP! MVP!
I Prefer Giambi 3rd and Shef 5th. This will give us a ton of base runners 1-3. Giambino must have an OBP around .500 by now!
2006-04-23 11:46:47
63.   tommyl
Great baserunning choices guys. Nothing like giving away outs with Sheff, A-Rod and Giambi coming to the plate. Its not like those guys are proven hitters or anything.
2006-04-23 11:46:48
64.   Schteeve
Giambi's OBP is above .500. his OPS is close to 1.2 i think.
2006-04-23 11:47:05
65.   Stormer Sports
singledd,

62 Moving Giambi up in the order makes sense no matter how you slice it, therefore, Joe won't have any part of it.

2006-04-23 11:47:46
66.   singledd
Can Phillips play OF? I'd rather he replace Shef and (on occasion) Mats. That would improve our D as much as having him at first. I think Shef would respond more to being DH then Giambi.
2006-04-23 11:48:20
67.   singledd
Hey, YOU want to tell Shef he's batting 5th?
2006-04-23 11:49:38
68.   Cliff Corcoran
66 Phillips can play the OF, but I don't know if he should. He's always been an infielder (2B, then 3B, now 1B).
2006-04-23 11:49:58
69.   yankaholic
The Daily News quoted him as being "afraid" to push one of Arod and Sheff to 5th spot.. AFRAID.. i was surprised he would say that.. it makes so much sense with Giambi at 3, and the Left Right thing top of the order will be so delicious..
2006-04-23 11:51:08
70.   Schteeve
Randy's keeping his pitch count pretty low. I think that bodes well.
2006-04-23 11:51:49
71.   Mattpat11
69 I'd be afraid of Sheffield as well.
2006-04-23 11:52:27
72.   singledd
Cliff... what is better....
Giambi at DH and Andy at first or
Shef at DH and Andy in RF (and occasionally in LF)?

I think Shef is slow to get to balls. I would prefer more speed in the OF, especially if we keep Shef next year.

2006-04-23 11:52:52
73.   Stormer Sports
69

That's because Joe is a players manager, meaning the players run the team. If Sheff doesn't want to move, send him to Washington and have Frank Robinson manage him. Sheff needs to understand how good he's got it and shut his trap. Giambi would give him more RBI opportunities, and that should be plenty to get him to move. It's not like Damon has been sitting out there for Sheff to drive in.

2006-04-23 11:53:25
74.   Jeteupthemiddle
how about Melky in right field /end continuing to beat dead horse.
2006-04-23 11:54:29
75.   singledd
Melky is not ready yet. MAYBE next year
2006-04-23 11:55:40
76.   Schteeve
Stormer, while I agree with your premise that Sheff should move down in the lineup and get over the whole "prestige factor" getting rid of him hurts you more than moving him two or three spots down in the lineup helps you.
2006-04-23 11:55:47
77.   Jeteupthemiddle
Well, I was more or less talking about July or August and not like tomorrow.

anyway, I'd rather see Phillips at first and Giambi at DH on any given day. And I really don't mind Giambi batting 5th.

2006-04-23 11:56:18
78.   Cliff Corcoran
Andy may have struck out there (two fouls and a foul tip into the catchers glove, all on breaking stuff), but he came up to Motley Crue's "Looks That Kill" He should get a credit for a hit just for that alone.
2006-04-23 11:57:31
79.   singledd
Actually, my choice for a speedy OF'er would be Soriano. He's available next year, and the Yankees are his first choice, even as an OF'er. Imagine this lineup with Sori in RF and Shef as DH (and Bernie coaching). Scary!
2006-04-23 11:57:54
80.   yankz
78 I've heard many people say he can't hit offspeed stuff. Is this true, or is he just a bit rusty?
2006-04-23 11:58:16
81.   Schteeve
How's Sori doing in left this year so far?
2006-04-23 11:59:05
82.   Cliff Corcoran
72 Offensively, Sheff at DH and Giambi at 1B will result in the best production from both, but defensively you'd want Andy at 1B, not RF. Having Giambi at 1B and Andy in RF could even be a defensive downgrade from what the Yanks have now given Phillips lack of experience in the outfield. I bet Sheffield's faster than Andy to boot.
2006-04-23 12:00:20
83.   Schteeve
82 Sheffield is fast, he just frequently doesn't appear to hustle defensively.
2006-04-23 12:00:22
84.   singledd
It's his first year, so it's heard to judge yet... but he is a great athlete and very fast. Unless there is something wrong with his 'fly ball perception', he should be above average.
2006-04-23 12:00:59
85.   Cliff Corcoran
80 Dunno, could be. That's a bit of a cliche regarding triple-A power hitters, but Phillips also hit for average in the minors, so I'll believe it when I see it. He didn't miss any of those pitches in his last at-bat, but he didn't hit 'em fair either. Jury's out.
2006-04-23 12:01:00
86.   Stormer Sports
I hope this means that the RJ-Posada feud is over.
2006-04-23 12:03:00
87.   Cliff Corcoran
86 RJ also pitched really well on opening day with Posada back there. Last year's Posada vs. Flaherty numbers are skewed by Unit's strong September. Take that out and there was really no difference.
2006-04-23 12:05:08
88.   Dimelo
Why does everyone want to change this lineup when there really isn't anything wrong with it?

Before today's game he was "only" batting:
.343/3 HR/13 RBI/.383 OBP and slugging right around his 3 year average.

Why should Torre make a change for the sake of making a change? If they can't win with that lineup then that's nobodies fault than their own. Not the manager.

2006-04-23 12:05:13
89.   yankz
CAPTAIN!
2006-04-23 12:05:28
90.   Stormer Sports
Jete Jete Jete.

Hey Cliff, at least I was right about 1 thing. Jete in the 2 hole is going to be huge for us. He can swing away more often, and we are seeing the result.

2006-04-23 12:05:33
91.   Stormer Sports
Jete Jete Jete.

Hey Cliff, at least I was right about 1 thing. Jete in the 2 hole is going to be huge for us. He can swing away more often, and we are seeing the result.

2006-04-23 12:05:36
92.   Schteeve
Jeter's having a great year so far. It warms my heart.
2006-04-23 12:05:36
93.   yankaholic
Randy-Posada was never a feud, how can Posada be at fault if.. when he calls a slider and Unit cant get it to bite.. thats the Unit's fault.. unless behind the scenes they fought over the "window seats" in the team bus, its all in the mind of Randy.. hes got to work on keeping the slider down, regardless of who is catching..
2006-04-23 12:07:26
94.   yankz
92 I know just how you feel.

93 Window seats- hilarious!

2006-04-23 12:07:34
95.   Jeteupthemiddle
90 yeah, but Jeter had just as hot of a start as last season. I don't think it has anything to do with him batting in the 2 hole and everything with him being just, you know, good.
2006-04-23 12:07:36
96.   singledd
Would ARod feel less pressure with Giambi batting 4th and him 5th? At least that puts Giambi's OBP in front of ARod and gets the L/R thing together.
2006-04-23 12:08:18
97.   Stormer Sports
HUH Mike Kaye. I would rather face Arod than Sheffield any day of the week with runners on.
2006-04-23 12:09:43
98.   rsmith51
96 I like the idea. Though reigning MVP batting 5th? There is also that clogging bases garbage.
2006-04-23 12:10:24
99.   Cliff Corcoran
97 There's "runners on" and then there's the difference between second and third and bases loaded no out. You don't want to face anyone bases loaded no outs.
2006-04-23 12:12:29
100.   rsmith51
Will the new stadium have a retractable roof?
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2006-04-23 12:14:21
101.   yankz
OK, HR #3, come on.
2006-04-23 12:14:55
102.   Schteeve
I doubt Giambi will get anything to hit this time up.
2006-04-23 12:15:28
103.   yankaholic
No retractable roof, i assume the new design is an exact replica of the current one, including field dimensions.. the one change is extra suites and some re-distribution between upper and lower deck seats
2006-04-23 12:16:24
104.   Mattpat11
damn
2006-04-23 12:17:12
105.   yankz
AGAIN?!
2006-04-23 12:24:20
106.   yankaholic
Unit 6IP, 73 pitches... go 8 and get that ERA down, let Farnsworth pitch 9th today
2006-04-23 12:25:27
107.   Schteeve
Yeah but Joe will pull him after the 7th, if he even let's him go out for the 7th.
2006-04-23 12:26:03
108.   Schteeve
I can't believe Halama got out of that jam last inning. Jeeeeez. Halama.
2006-04-23 12:27:35
109.   Jeteupthemiddle
107 what makes you say that?
2006-04-23 12:28:04
110.   Mattpat11
108 Well, its nothing Halama did right.

And gosh, Posada is slow. :)

2006-04-23 12:28:33
111.   Schteeve
109 I'm basing it on them pulling him after 78 pitches, two starts ago.
2006-04-23 12:29:31
112.   Cliff Corcoran
Crap swing on a crap pitch by Andy there. Sigh.
2006-04-23 12:30:10
113.   Cliff Corcoran
111 That was because his shoulder was tightening up on him.
2006-04-23 12:31:59
114.   Schteeve
111 Yeah I know, I just don't see him pitching past the 7th though. Very likely that I'm wrong.
2006-04-23 12:32:54
115.   Cliff Corcoran
Well, he does have an eight-inning complete game loss already this year.
2006-04-23 12:38:27
116.   yankaholic
I think Unit has 2 or 3 CGs for us, all losses, certainly the one last year against Halladay
2006-04-23 12:39:10
117.   yankz
Man, I hate Tejada.
2006-04-23 12:40:13
118.   Schteeve
Why do you hate Tejada?
2006-04-23 12:41:19
119.   yankz
I just realized that Unit would be throwing a no-no if not for Tejada.
2006-04-23 12:41:48
120.   yankz
118 see 119
2006-04-23 12:42:36
121.   Zack
If Joe was saying that he is playing Andy to see what he can do, we know that he will give him one or two more games and then never play him again, right?
2006-04-23 12:42:36
122.   Schteeve
Ahhhhhh. I see.
2006-04-23 12:45:49
123.   Schteeve
Jeter's neat-o.
2006-04-23 12:46:17
124.   Jeteupthemiddle
Jim Kaat: That is a play jeter probably makes.

That is probably a play that Jeter is no where near and it just looks like a clean single.

2006-04-23 12:47:32
125.   yankz
How come Bubba hasn't been getting that many starts in the outfield this year?
2006-04-23 12:48:08
126.   Schteeve
125 I think it might have something to do with the fact that Bubba couldn't hit the water if he fell out of a boat.
2006-04-23 12:48:13
127.   Mattpat11
Why does sportsline have Wright in the bullpen?
2006-04-23 12:49:03
128.   Jeteupthemiddle
127 Because he is.
2006-04-23 12:49:10
129.   Mattpat11
125 Because he hits like me.
2006-04-23 12:49:33
130.   Mattpat11
128 Why? Trying to get Rivera a save?
2006-04-23 12:49:35
131.   randym77
Because Wright is in the bullpen.
2006-04-23 12:50:36
132.   Jeteupthemiddle
I don't know. Rivera was stirring also. Perhaps he is just throwing ala Wang in the beginning of the game.
2006-04-23 12:50:49
133.   Mattpat11
131 But...WHY?
2006-04-23 12:52:54
134.   Mattpat11
Think Giambi is hot?
2006-04-23 12:53:07
135.   randym77
Randy's at what, 90 pitches? Maybe he's getting tired.

Or maybe they just want to give Wright some work...

2006-04-23 12:54:06
136.   Schteeve
10 TBs and 5 RBI today? Naaaahhh.
2006-04-23 12:54:15
137.   Mattpat11
135 I dont care if Johnson's thrown 200 pitches. Thats no justifcation for putting Wright into a <10 run game.
2006-04-23 12:54:40
138.   Simone
Giambi's been eating his wheaties. Very nice.
2006-04-23 12:57:37
139.   randym77
Well, RJ is still in there.

Damon's out, though. Bubba's in.

2006-04-23 12:58:15
140.   Schteeve
Yep, I was totally wrong about Randy.
2006-04-23 12:58:57
141.   yankz
Yeah, but we all know Sheffield and Matsui can't play in October if they've played 162 games in the field. They need to DH every now and then.
2006-04-23 13:00:33
142.   Schteeve
141 Don't you worry, Joe has this young kid named Bernie Williams he likes to trot out there to give those guys a breather.
2006-04-23 13:00:35
143.   Mattpat11
Let him finish it?
2006-04-23 13:01:17
144.   singledd
I second 141. Bernie should be in for Mats and Cairo for Jete. These guys should get as much rest as possible, and give the subs an AB.

RJ will go CG.

2006-04-23 13:01:32
145.   randym77
Randy's done for the day.
2006-04-23 13:01:48
146.   Zack
How about bringing in Smith?
2006-04-23 13:02:04
147.   wsporter
Randy 94 pitches through 8. Pretty good stuff today. Maybe Rocket can kick back and enjoy the month of May after all.
2006-04-23 13:02:42
148.   randym77
Yeah, I'd like to see Smith.

But it's probably going to be Wright.

2006-04-23 13:03:08
149.   Cliff Corcoran
146 I like it.

So, this should put an end to the Randy/Jorge issue, no? I mean, like yankz said, take away Tejada and RJ's got a no-hitter.

2006-04-23 13:03:20
150.   Schteeve
I recall Randy's last start in which almost everyone was saying he was toast, and he sucked.
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2006-04-23 13:03:28
151.   Mattpat11
Hopefully they just put Mo in. I can't fathom pulling Johnson to get Jaret frigging Wright work.
2006-04-23 13:05:28
152.   Schteeve
Why put Mo in here??? If you're going to get Wright some work this is a good a time as any. He wouldn't be my first option but up 6, I bring in Wright way before I bring in Mo.
2006-04-23 13:05:33
153.   Jeteupthemiddle
150 Sometimes he is and does.
2006-04-23 13:05:54
154.   Zack
Damn, sideburns looks like a lineman! And he came from AA?
2006-04-23 13:06:31
155.   yankz
LOL Now I see why.
2006-04-23 13:06:46
156.   Mattpat11
Now really. Bubba Crosby isn't any good to begin with, and he isn't going to get many at bats, so when he does, why wont he swing the bat?
2006-04-23 13:06:58
157.   Schteeve
153 Um, that's ridiculous.
2006-04-23 13:07:15
158.   Cliff Corcoran
154 That's what happens when four of your intended relievers are on the DL.
2006-04-23 13:07:34
159.   Jeteupthemiddle
157 How do you figure? Sometimes he sucks. As evidenced by his occasional sucking.
2006-04-23 13:08:24
160.   Cliff Corcoran
Day off tomorrow, Mo needs work. Fair enough.
2006-04-23 13:09:00
161.   Schteeve
Sometimes, every pitcher sucks. But Randy Johnson does not suck. Not this season so far. He had one terrible outing. I see no evidence that he is finished or that he "sucks" in the grand scheme of things.
2006-04-23 13:09:15
162.   randym77
Mo's in just because he needs work.
2006-04-23 13:10:06
163.   yankaholic
MO being in is not a surprise.. he hasnt pitched in a while.. and we are off tomorrow.. just avoid the rust baby..
2006-04-23 13:10:28
164.   yankaholic
MO being in is not a surprise.. he hasnt pitched in a while.. and we are off tomorrow.. just avoid the rust baby..
2006-04-23 13:10:54
165.   Cliff Corcoran
Incidentally, much as I love Mo and think he's a sure-thing first-ballot Hall of Famer and as valuable as he's been to the team, especially in the postseason, the fact that the team can go so long without having occasion to give him meaningful work is why all those folks who say he's the most valuable player on the team, or has been or whatever, are just flat wrong. Can't happen with a closer unless he's pitching multiple innings in the majority of his appearances. Even with a closer as good as Rivera.
2006-04-23 13:11:04
166.   rsmith51
Perhaps Mo's low usage will prompt Torre to use Mo in more tie games. He should always be the first option in tie games in the 9th, 8th at home.
2006-04-23 13:11:19
167.   Mattpat11
152 Let Wright rot in the pen.
2006-04-23 13:11:50
168.   yankz
NOthing i want more than to see Tejada K to end the game.
2006-04-23 13:13:23
169.   rsmith51
Mo's never got Tejada out?
2006-04-23 13:14:18
170.   Schteeve
169 Tejada is 3 for 15 career off Mo.
2006-04-23 13:14:58
171.   randym77
Pesky, this Tejada fellow is.
2006-04-23 13:15:06
172.   yankz
Screw you Tejada!!!
2006-04-23 13:15:17
173.   rsmith51
Oh, I had captions on and it said 3 for 3.
2006-04-23 13:16:23
174.   yankz
Mo's throwing a lot of balls...
2006-04-23 13:16:58
175.   wsporter
Oh Crap.
2006-04-23 13:17:40
176.   Mattpat11
Oh Jesus
2006-04-23 13:18:33
177.   weeping for brunnhilde
RIght into the wall, he ran.

Right smack into it.

Almost vaudevillian, that.

2006-04-23 13:18:51
178.   wsporter
You see, we all care more about Shef than we want to admit.
2006-04-23 13:20:19
179.   randym77
He ran into the wall like he didn't even see it. Ouch.

And I have to say, his leg injury from last year came to mind.

But he wouldn't let them put Bernie in, so I guess he's all right.

2006-04-23 13:21:06
180.   wsporter
That is one ugly box score for the O's.
2006-04-23 23:53:07
181.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Yesterday it was Cano getting not just 1.. but 2 walks.. today Sheff actually chase a ball into the wall... it's either doomsday or the Yanks are ready to break out.
2006-04-24 00:01:14
182.   joejoejoe
Would the Yankees defense improve if Matsui and Giambi switched positions?

I think Matsui has the work ethic to make himself a pretty good 1B and it's possible that standing on the grass is easier on Giambi's back than standing on the infield and stepping on the bag. I also think it's possible that the switch would make both players fresher. Giambi has 112 career games in LF. Am I crazy? A LF gets 300 chances a year, a 1B gets 1200. Based on the durability of the players involved I think a switch makes sense.

2006-04-24 00:19:21
183.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Playing Giambi in left make some sense but the problem is transforming Matsui to a infielder in the middle of a season is not a great idea.... if you wanted to try something like this you better do it from ST.
2006-04-24 00:48:18
184.   joejoejoe
183 Maybe the Matsui conversion is a stretch. It's simpler to DH Sheffield and shift Matsui to RF and plug in a 1B. I think Giambi would love getting the additional field time by seeing some starts in LF. It's encouraging to see Andy Phillips gets some play but if he doesn't pan out it's simple enough to get a veteran 1B that Torre would be comfortable playing ala Olerud (Craig Wilson, Doug Mientkiewicz).

Note - the stats don't show Giambi to be a bad first baseman but I think he looks a bit uncomfortable on a lot of in-between plays. Imagine if Giambi said he was willing to play the corner OF to give old Gary Sheffield a rest? Sheffield might freak out and hit .400/.500/.700 at DH in anger.

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