Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
They Wuz Robbed!
2006-04-22 07:42
by Cliff Corcoran

Bottom of the ninth. Yanks trailing by one, 6-5. Newly minted 24-year-old closer Chris Ray on the mound for the Orioles against the top of the Yankee order.

After Johnny Damon pops out, Derek Jeter walks on five pitches. Gary Sheffield follows with a line-drive single to center that almost decapitates the second base umpire. Alex Rodriguez then takes a strike, fouls off a slider low and away, swings through a 96 mile-per-hour fastball in on his hands, takes another further up and in to even the count at 2-2, then swings through yet another which is perfectly placed on the upper inside corner. Jason Giambi follows and on a 1-0 count, Jeter and Sheffield pull off a double steal that is ruled defensive indifference despite the fact that it puts the winning run in scoring position. Ray's 1-0 pitch was a ball and with first base open he walks Giambi on two more tosses.

That passes the baton to Hideki Matsui. Two outs, bottom of the ninth, tying run on third, winning run on second. Ray has thrown 21 pitches and walked two already, though Giambi was semi-intentional. Ray's first pitch to Matsui is a ball. His second is below the knee on the outside corner but is ruled a strike. His next pitch is ball two. The 2-1 pitch is almost a foot outside but ruled strike two. Matsui then checks his swing on ball three to run the count full. Ray then delivers the same pitch that was called strike two, it's nearly a foot outside and Matsui watches it go by thinking he's just tied the game with a walk, but home plate ump Phil Cuzzi rings him up. Game over. O's win 6-5.

That wasn't the only call that cost the Yankees the win last night. Chien-Ming Wang set the first seven Orioles down in order (six on ground balls) but fell apart in the third after a Kevin Millar double. He got Corey Patterson to ground out for the second out of the inning, but then walked Brian Roberts and rookie Nick Markakis on five pitches each to load the bases. Wang then threw three straight balls to Melvin Mora before coming back to get two called strikes to run the count full. Mora then hits a grounder to Jeter, who flips to Andy Phillips at first as Mora dives head first into the bag. Replays showed that Mora was should have been the third out of the inning, but he was called safe by first-base ump Jerry Crawford. Two runs scored on the play and Miguel Tejada followed with an RBI single before Wang finally got Jay Gibbons to ground out to end the inning.

I don't like to blame umpires for losses, but in this case there's no getting around it. They wuz robbed.

Incidentally, Wang had another rough inning in the sixth and was pulled in favor of Scott Proctor, who walked in a run (which is impressive as it took him two walks to do it) before getting out of it. Andy Phillips went 0 for 2, popping out on the first pitch in his first at-bat, then working Kris Benson for six pitches in his second only to strike-out looking on a full count. He was then pinch-hit for by Bernie Williams in the sixth with the tying runs on base and two outs. Bernie worked a walk to load the bases, but Johnny Damon grounded out to end the threat. Miguel Cario then took over at first and grounded out to strand the tying run on second in the eighth. Jason Giambi, whose right forearm just above the wrist is considerably swollen from being hit by a pitch on Thursday, went 0 for 4 as the DH with the walk desribed above. Finally, Tanyon Sturtze got three outs, two by strikout, without allowing a baserunner.

This afternoon, Shawn Chacon makes just his third start of the young season, this coming off a pair of dreadful relief appearances during the bast week. Here's hoping Chacon learned something by watching Mike Mussina's slow, slower, slowest routine on Thursday. Chacon's mound opponent will be Daniel Cabrera. Everyone's breakout candidate this winter, Cabrera walked 16 men over 6 1/3 innings in his first two starts, but just one in seven innings in his last outing. In that last start, against the Angels, he lasted seven innings allowing one unearned run on five hits and striking out ten. Uh oh.

Comments (178)
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2006-04-22 09:48:47
1.   C2Coke
Here is hoping...
It's amazing how unpredictable the Yanks are recently. They are not in a slump and they are definitely not on a winning is hoping.
2006-04-22 10:04:52
2.   Cliff Corcoran
Stinnett is starting today's day game after night game, meaning Posada will catch Johnson tomorrow. Giambi and Bernie are in the field. Sheffield will DH.

Echoing Stinnett, Raul Chavez will catch for the O's.

2006-04-22 10:17:04
3.   singledd
Soriano... 3 HRs yesterday
AVG .333 | HR 6 | RBI 12 | OBP .377 | SLG .653
Outfielder..... Lets get him....
he wants to be a Yankee
2006-04-22 10:27:35
4.   randym77
How'd they get Soriano into the outfield?
2006-04-22 10:31:56
5.   jayd
They'll be a few of those games during the course of the year. It was a travesty, though. But with 10 runners left on base, it's amazing how the mind focuses on that one situation.

Listened to Buck Martinez last night and he was calling attention to Wang's inability to get on top of his sinker when pitching from the stretch. Totally on when pitching from the full windup and using that stutter/hold of the ball he uses to throw batters off. But when pitching from the stretch Wang was missing up high and had none of the usual movement on the ball.

I hear that (pitcher performance throwing from the stretch and the full windup) a lot but always find it hard to believe. You would think it would be something coaches would have ironed out in high school ball. Or that the mechanics would be easy enough to correct that all you would need to do would be to call attention to the problem.

First time I'd seen Andy Phillips since he was hitting so well in spring training. Now I understand why he's not getting much playing time.

Sheff goes deep today.

Hope Cabrera walks 9 in a row.

2006-04-22 10:39:12
6.   Bob Timmermann
Soriano was scared into the outfield after getting on the new Disneyland attraction "Mr. Bowden's Wild Ride."
2006-04-22 10:40:13
7.   brockdc
Ironically, the Orioles broadcasting crew was complaining all game about how the Yankees hitters were getting all the close calls on balls and strikes. I think it was Martinez who, upon seeing Giambi unhappy with a strike call, snidely chimed, "How could it be a strike if I didn't swing at it?"

I'm with Jayd in that there were far too many opportunities that were squandered.

On a positive note, I thought Torre managed a hell of a game last night (no, really).

2006-04-22 10:40:15
8.   randym77
5 Joe Torre said the same thing last night - that Wang was having trouble pitching from the stretch. Hopefully, they'll work on it with him.

Kitty said that he thought it mostly mental - that Wang was worrying too much about the runners and trying to get strikes, rather than just pitching and trusting his fielders. (Which Torre also said.)

2006-04-22 10:40:16
9.   Cliff Corcoran
4 They threatened to place him on the restricted list, which means no pay, no service time accrued. Why would the Yankees want Soriano for their outfield? It's not like their current outfielders can't hit. Can Sori field? I could see getting him to DH if Bowden can be fooled into giving him away, but I wouldn't give up any actual talent for him. Singledd, let's check back on him in June.
2006-04-22 10:43:29
10.   Cliff Corcoran
Singleton was just saying that when Wang throws his next bullpen they're going to have him work from the stretch.
2006-04-22 10:48:09
11.   claybeez
If Sori can play the OF at least as adequetely as Sheff, I'd take him back, chasing sliders off the plate and all. At 30 he's almost a baby on this team. He's still got power, got the quicks to steal and knows the pressure of NY. IF he can learn to play OF what's not to love?
2006-04-22 10:49:09
12.   Zack
Ugh, why would we want Soriano back, just because he can hit As an outfielder, he is far less valuable for us, and all those annoying flaws are still there...Why is giving the o's feed again if its a home game?
2006-04-22 10:50:49
13.   wsporter
9 Cliff, Sori has been looking a little more comfortable out there of late. He still takes some big loopy routes on balls but even they are starting to tighten up. He made a couple of nice plays on balls he ran down at the wall the other night. He seems to get a good jump on the ball.

If we could send Bowden a couple of cases of mediocre scotch maybe he could be fooled into giving him away; more than that though I'd have to say no way too.

2006-04-22 10:50:58
14.   Jeteupthemiddle
eh. I'd rather see how Melky does in AAA this year. If he is as successful as he has been, I'd rather he play right field next year than Soriano.
2006-04-22 10:54:46
15.   Zack
And Chacon is doing the miss, miss more, and really miss now...
2006-04-22 10:55:41
16.   Cliff Corcoran
Because we'd say it if the Yankees did it. Why bunt with your #3 hitter with men on first and second in the third and no outs following two walks?
2006-04-22 10:57:20
17.   Cliff Corcoran
Chacon gets the next two men after the bunt. Giving away the first out changed the complexion of that inning. Idiocy.
2006-04-22 10:57:39
18.   wsporter
Getting out of that was huge, I hope we can break through this 1/2 and take advantage.
2006-04-22 11:00:01
19.   kdw
12 My MLB feed is Yankees with Sterling/Waldman. Noticed a couple days ago that clicking feed tv feed from Gameday gave me a different feed from the on on the dropdown menu, altho that wasn't the case the next time I tried. And yes, doesn't make any sense but it worked so I just went with it.
2006-04-22 11:00:22
20.   fgasparini
3 Key to Sori's success (from

"Soriano also went to hitting coach Mitchell Page's meeting on Friday, during which Page reiterated to the position players to start hitting the top half of the baseball to go for doubles and singles instead of the home runs, which some players believe are hard to hit at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium.

The hard work and Page's words paid off for Soriano, as he hit three home runs..."

Uh, what? I appreciate that MLB's writers are suppposedly independent, but unedited is maybe going too far.

2006-04-22 11:00:40
21.   Jeteupthemiddle
Cano walked. Alert. Alert. Cano just drew a walk.
2006-04-22 11:01:18
22.   Zack
holy crap Cano walked!
2006-04-22 11:01:48
23.   Cliff Corcoran
The irresistable force and the immovable object. Who walked Cano? Daniel Cabrera, of course.
2006-04-22 11:03:03
24.   Cliff Corcoran
Torre clearly wasn't walking the top of the inning. Cabrera walks Cano--Cano!--to lead off the third, and you bunt?
2006-04-22 11:03:22
25.   Cliff Corcoran
er, watching, that is.
2006-04-22 11:04:44
26.   wsporter
Does anyone have any feelings about having Stinett bunting in that spot. It keeps us out of the double play and moves the runner into SP with the top of the order comming up. It's very old style and tends to ignore the overall probability analysis. In that spot I think I like the move.
2006-04-22 11:04:47
27.   Jeteupthemiddle
I think they are just pretending it is the 9th inning because of the expected rain.

It looks to me like both pitchers are hoping the rain beats them to the 5th inning. This is the slowest moving game of the season thus far. lol.

2006-04-22 11:08:29
28.   Cliff Corcoran
Ballsy send by Bowa there. Paid off, 1-0 Yanks.
2006-04-22 11:08:34
29.   Jeteupthemiddle
And RBI single. :)
2006-04-22 11:08:39
30.   wsporter
Big rbi by the captain.
2006-04-22 11:08:41
31.   Zack
kdw, I just did the same thing to the same result, so now I have a unknown video feed to the sounds of Sterling and Waldman, weird...but better than the O's feed...
2006-04-22 11:10:33
32.   nycfan
I normally wouldn't mind the bunt that much, but Cabrera was wild as hell and the count was 2-0, so i think it was pretty dumb. Did work out though.
2006-04-22 11:10:46
33.   fgasparini
26 I have to agree, if you have to have Kelly Stinnett in the lineup, that's the thing to do there. And it resulted in a run!
2006-04-22 11:12:22
34.   fgasparini
32 I'm watching game day, couldn't judge Cabrera's control. I'm sure you're right...can't we all be right?
2006-04-22 11:13:15
35.   Mattpat11
What the FUCK is it going to take to get this team to protect the plate with two strikes? Fines? I'm all for it.
2006-04-22 11:14:31
36.   brockdc
CANO WALKS!! Film at eleven.
2006-04-22 11:16:14
37.   brockdc
Er...I just realized that actually happened about ten minutes ago. Tivo faux pas
2006-04-22 11:20:13
38.   monkeypants
OK, I've been listening to the games on radio (Yankees feed). The announcers are fools--that's a given. But I could swear I hear more organ music in the background at the Stadium. Is this my imagination? Is this all canned Eddie Layton work, or is there a new organist?
2006-04-22 11:20:16
39.   Cliff Corcoran
Two hits through four innings off Chacon, but 3 walks against just 1 K and barely 50 percent of his pitches for strikes. Hmmm.
2006-04-22 11:20:39
40.   Jeteupthemiddle
So what just happened with Arod as Cortland decided it was time for an Emergency Alert Test.
2006-04-22 11:21:56
41.   Cliff Corcoran
38 There's been a new organist (actually I think there are two who alternate) since opening day the year after Layton retired.
2006-04-22 11:22:20
42.   Cliff Corcoran
40 single
2006-04-22 11:23:46
43.   Cliff Corcoran
Cabrera almost killed Giambi in the process of walking him. One at his head, one at his feet that caused him to flop over on the plate.
2006-04-22 11:23:57
44.   monkeypants
41 Thanks. I need to pay more attention...
2006-04-22 11:28:51
45.   Cliff Corcoran
Just saw a Cracker Jack vendor in the background. I'd pay stadium prices for a big box right now.
2006-04-22 11:29:23
46.   Jeteupthemiddle
I would like to wish everyone a Happy Earth Day. :)
2006-04-22 11:29:34
47.   yankaholic
AJ Burnett on DL.. Something in the FL water, once they stop drinking it, these guys go on DL.. Willis hasnt had any problems... has he??
2006-04-22 11:29:55
48.   Mattpat11
I'll take it.
2006-04-22 11:29:56
49.   fgasparini
39 Cabrera's even worse, Cliff...that's some consolation.
2006-04-22 11:30:25
50.   Cliff Corcoran
Bernie with a sac fly! It was a normal-depth fly to right, but I think that's the farthest I've seen him hit a ball since his last homer some 170 ABs ago.
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2006-04-22 11:30:40
51.   wsporter
Taking advantage of the extra out is very big.
2006-04-22 11:32:17
52.   Cliff Corcoran
Should be noted for Gameday followers: Millar and Cabrera failed to cover first on Matsui's ground ball, erasing a would-be DP and making that sac fly possible.
2006-04-22 11:33:32
53.   kdw
Toronto up on Boston 8 to 1 bottom of 4th.
2006-04-22 11:34:33
54.   Cliff Corcoran
49 Not really, he's got a higher percentage of strikes, same number of walks, but two more Ks.
2006-04-22 11:35:15
55.   Jeteupthemiddle
Damon didn't make the play, but I thought it was a nice one...with Bernie right behind him.
2006-04-22 11:36:30
56.   Cliff Corcoran
Get the pen going. Villone, perhaps? Maybe even Wright?
2006-04-22 11:37:40
57.   Mattpat11
nice play
2006-04-22 11:37:46
58.   Jeteupthemiddle
Well that was fun. 1 out with still 2nd and 3rd.
2006-04-22 11:38:04
59.   Cliff Corcoran
Another bunt with no outs men on first and second (this time on a pair of singles). Chacon gets the lead runner, who happened to be the catcher Chavez. Will they never learn?
2006-04-22 11:38:19
60.   fgasparini
54 But threw more pitches through 4 and did give up the runs...potato, potahto.
2006-04-22 11:39:03
61.   Mattpat11
2006-04-22 11:39:32
62.   Cliff Corcoran
60 Right. Equally bad, but not worse. Tomato.
2006-04-22 11:39:46
63.   wsporter
That (lead runner out at third and no out 2 on) is just terrible. I wonder if the folks at Camden Chat are going as nuts as it would be here?
2006-04-22 11:40:23
64.   Mattpat11
I want Roger back.
2006-04-22 11:40:51
65.   Cliff Corcoran
61 Kitty's been talking all day about how the best pitch on a rainy day is a fastball. Wright has one, I also have more faith in him out of the pen than as a starter. His one relief appearance this year was solid for two innings before he fell apart. Two innings now would be plenty.
2006-04-22 11:41:43
66.   Cliff Corcoran
Sac fly by Bernie, sac fly to Bernie. What comes around . . .
2006-04-22 11:43:04
67.   rsmith51
Wright looked pretty bad against a very weak Twins lineup.
2006-04-22 11:44:15
68.   wsporter
Some nice work to get out of that without more damage being done.
2006-04-22 11:44:16
69.   rsmith51
Very nice, Chacon. I was wondering why the camera wasn't going into CF..
2006-04-22 11:44:51
70.   Mattpat11
65 Its a fastball, but its the Jaret Wright fastball.

And Wright is a miserable reliever. Look at his numbers.

2006-04-22 11:45:13
71.   Jeteupthemiddle
That was a nice play. To be honest, I think this is the kind of start that can get Chacon going. He wasn't good by any means, but he did only allow 1 run through 5. Certainly a start he can build on.
2006-04-22 11:48:12
72.   Mattpat11
Is that what happened? Sterling called it a "hard hit ball through the GAHHDTGDSBEAUTIFULPLAYINNINGOVER"
2006-04-22 11:48:37
73.   wsporter
He seemed to be having trouble getting his curveball over early but I thought he settled down and pitched pretty well. Are they saying that's it for him?
2006-04-22 11:50:34
74.   Mattpat11
2006-04-22 11:52:37
75.   Jeteupthemiddle
Chacon still pitching. I think I would get someone up to come in.
2006-04-22 11:53:02
76.   Cliff Corcoran
70 Holy crap, I totally misremembered his performance with the Padres. My bad.
2006-04-22 11:53:28
77.   Zack
Woah, the o's feed really needs to stop interviewing really scary drunk people about their favorite players...
2006-04-22 11:54:51
78.   rsmith51
77 They don't all say Cal Ripken, Jr.?
2006-04-22 11:55:05
79.   Zack
Is there any way the Yanks don't cut Wright loose after this season?
2006-04-22 11:55:39
80.   Zack
No, the last scary woman claimed Chris Hoiles, I kid you not...
2006-04-22 11:59:30
81.   Jeteupthemiddle
Chacon is at 98 pitches. Does he come out for the 7th? I'm inclined to say no. He had a good outing that he can use to build his confidence, no reason to risk having a poor 7th inning. Although, he did have a good 6th inning.
2006-04-22 12:01:57
82.   weeping for brunnhilde
I just had a moment of dread.

I noticed the score (2-1) and the inning (6) and just thought, "We can't win this game."

Don't mean to be a gloomy gus or anything, but that was my thought, "We're gonna fuck this up somehow, this team can't win one-run games."

Someone care to talk me down?

2006-04-22 12:02:42
83.   jayd
Hey that was my sheff homerun. pulled it foul, damn!
2006-04-22 12:03:02
84.   Jeteupthemiddle
Come done.
2006-04-22 12:03:11
85.   Jeteupthemiddle
Come down
2006-04-22 12:04:51
86.   weeping for brunnhilde
What was that crazy figure I heard the other day, something about how the Yanks have only won once or twice when scoring fewer than ten runs?

Not good, my friends, not good.

2006-04-22 12:05:53
87.   fgasparini
81 It's a lousy day in NY, don't over-extend him. He hasn't started in two weeks (?)
2006-04-22 12:06:57
88.   rsmith51
86 I believe it was 9 runs. They won one game 3-1.
2006-04-22 12:07:38
89.   Jeteupthemiddle
86 The only game that they won without scoring at least 9 runs was Mussina's start against Toronto. But I don't htink that tells the whole story. I mean we won 15-2 and against Colon we scored a lot without allowing a lot. And I think that happened in another game as well. So we pitched well in a couple of those wins, it just so happened the Yankees also hit really well.

Entering yesterday, the Yankees were 3rd in the league in ERA.

2006-04-22 12:08:01
90.   wsporter
82 There you go Weepy, it's no longer a one run game. Now get off that ledge, its dangerous up there.
2006-04-22 12:08:17
91.   rsmith51
Feeling better?
2006-04-22 12:08:32
92.   Jeteupthemiddle
Nice insurance runs there by Matsui.
2006-04-22 12:08:37
93.   weeping for brunnhilde
That, my friends, was beautiful. He just ripped that ball.


We need to pile on though.

2006-04-22 12:09:03
94.   Zack
But who do we bring in, Sturtze in the 7th? Proctor, Torre's new favorite warrior? Myers for a whole inning? These are what Joe is thinking...
2006-04-22 12:09:22
95.   randym77
86 I think that game Wednesday was the first time they won scoring less than 9 runs.

But I'm not worried (much). It's early in a long season. Don't want to peak too soon, and all that.

2006-04-22 12:10:01
96.   fgasparini
Yes! Gameday suggests that the double was pitched in teh exact same spot as the called strike...fool me once...

Not that Game Day is accurate. but the location monitor is fun.

2006-04-22 12:10:24
97.   rsmith51
Don't you hate it when they say they were 0-16 with the bases loaded, but don't tell you how many rbis they had or walks? Sac flies, ground outs, etc. may drive in a run.
2006-04-22 12:11:54
98.   weeping for brunnhilde
Thanks guys, yes, feeling slightly better now. :)

Not secure, mind you, but better.

I just miss the old days when the team was consistent and reliable.

The offense was far less explosive but much more consistent. Or maybe it's just that the pitching was so good it made the offense look consistent.

2006-04-22 12:11:56
99.   rsmith51
Walk Bernie ? Intentional walk with 0 outs, I don't think so.
2006-04-22 12:12:59
100.   Jeteupthemiddle
So Bubba is pinch running for Giambi. I take it that means he will play Right field for the remainder of the game and Phillips will come in for 1st?
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2006-04-22 12:14:14
101.   rsmith51
Or Little Egypt..
2006-04-22 12:15:22
102.   rsmith51
Dotel, set back... Now I am a little worried.
2006-04-22 12:17:06
103.   wsporter
Two walks tonight for RC!
2006-04-22 12:17:09
104.   Jeteupthemiddle
The apocalypse is upon us.
2006-04-22 12:17:11
105.   singledd
I really thought Bernie would be decent this year. I was wrong. GOB looks terrible at almost every AB. He needs to see bench time big time.
2006-04-22 12:17:42
106.   fgasparini
Two walks IN ONE GAME?
2006-04-22 12:17:47
107.   Levy2020
100 Yeah, I don't understand the point of pinch running for someone on third base in the bottom of the sixth. Whoever's on third is coming up to bat again. Just for sac flies?
2006-04-22 12:18:16
108.   fgasparini
105 What's up with the GOB?
2006-04-22 12:20:21
109.   fgasparini
The abbreviation I mean.
2006-04-22 12:21:10
110.   wsporter
That's the sauce Johnny.
2006-04-22 12:21:28
111.   Jeteupthemiddle
Ghost of Bernie
2006-04-22 12:22:20
112.   weeping for brunnhilde
Here's the thing with Bernie; as feckless as his swings tend to be, I still trust him to go up and not give away at-bats.

I think that's really worth something.

2006-04-22 12:22:29
113.   fgasparini
Coulda been more with a PH, Posada for Kelly...unless Jorge is achy or something and I didn't know it.
2006-04-22 12:23:02
114.   yankaholic
do we keep Chacon for 1 more now??
2006-04-22 12:23:10
115.   weeping for brunnhilde
111 Heh. I read it as "Good Ol' Bernie," which he is, afterall.
2006-04-22 12:24:01
116.   claybeez
Pinch-running for Giambi this early with a 3-run lead seems asanine. But, if you're going to do it and they're going to walk Cano why not pinch-hit for Stinnett - if that run is so important. Coulda had Cairo hit then had Posada hitting in Gimabi's spot and Phillips in Stinnett's
2006-04-22 12:24:35
117.   claybeez
I say let Chacon call it a day.
2006-04-22 12:24:43
118.   Jeteupthemiddle
113 yes, but with a 3 run lead already, I don't think there is any reason to take away Posada's day off.
2006-04-22 12:26:18
119.   jayd
ok, now I want my HR, sheff
2006-04-22 12:26:34
120.   wsporter
This game is official now? Right?
2006-04-22 12:26:48
121.   Jeteupthemiddle
119 my fantasy team does as well. :)
2006-04-22 12:27:02
122.   singledd
Another 9 run game? Lets go Shef.
2006-04-22 12:27:29
123.   yankaholic
Have we had a grand slam yet this year??
2006-04-22 12:28:03
124.   Jeteupthemiddle
Didn't Arod hit one?
2006-04-22 12:28:32
125.   yankaholic
Game is official if home team leads after 4.5 or after 5 inings
2006-04-22 12:28:57
126.   yankaholic
Thought that was a 3R hr.. not sure
2006-04-22 12:29:18
127.   randym77
123 A-Rod had one on opening day, didn't he?
2006-04-22 12:29:45
128.   wsporter
I thought Sheff would hack at a fat 2-0 pitch. Oh well 4 runs is pretty good.
2006-04-22 12:31:26
129.   jayd
arrgh. off the end of the bat, destined for deep in the stands, I tell you. sheff really needs to slow down that bat speed, little shower would have had the fat of the bat...
2006-04-22 12:31:27
130.   yankaholic
U guys r right.. Arod in game 1 was a GS
2006-04-22 12:33:22
131.   singledd
Sox get their asses kicked. 8-1. Could be a very 'sunny' day.
2006-04-22 12:35:07
132.   Schteeve
Can someone please tell me that Giambi is out because Joe is being dopey, and because Giambi got hurt. Please....
2006-04-22 12:36:31
133.   Jeteupthemiddle
Anyone else think it is dumb that the Yankees are STILL playing God Bless America during the 7th inning stretch?
2006-04-22 12:37:11
134.   yankaholic
Whats dumb abt playing that..
2006-04-22 12:37:57
135.   jayd
this is so great to see chacon going deep in the game; give me vintage johnson tomorrow and my world will be just fine thank you.
2006-04-22 12:38:07
136.   wsporter
Chacon needs to have a regular turn in the rotation until he proves he doesn't deserve one. There is so much more to this guy than the radar gun tells us.
2006-04-22 12:38:18
137.   Jeteupthemiddle
I think its fake and plastic for the Yankees to continue doing it. You do it every time, where is the meaning?
2006-04-22 12:39:03
138.   Mattpat11
Off topic, but you all must drink Coke Blak. That is all.
2006-04-22 12:39:17
139.   singledd
Chacon should be in for the 8th... he is getting stronger. But Torre will take him out. Watch
2006-04-22 12:40:10
140.   Mattpat11
If the game gets called before the top of the 8th, is Chacon credited with a complete game?
2006-04-22 12:40:12
141.   randym77
Giambi's fine, so far as I know. Bubba was put in to pinch run for him. (And scored, so maybe it wasn't so dopey. ;-)
2006-04-22 12:41:03
142.   yankaholic
Would you on the same token oppose playing the national anthem.. that gets played everyday too.. agreed GBA is not the anthem.. but i will take it over the Wrigley field tradition of "celeb stars" with broken voices singing "take me out to the ball game"..
2006-04-22 12:41:22
143.   Jeteupthemiddle
139 Torre should take him out. he pitched 7 solid innings, is at 111 pitches and it is really crappy weather.
2006-04-22 12:43:07
144.   Jeteupthemiddle
142Sure, but God Bless America is not in place of the Cotton Eye Joe (our version of the Cubs thing) it is in addition to it. I think I just don't think the Yankees are sincere about it. I look at is Steinbrenner saying "Look at me. Look at me. I am patriotic!! The best American!"
2006-04-22 12:46:50
145.   singledd
God Bless America was a reaction to 9/11, wasn't it? It's time to retire it.
2006-04-22 12:48:07
146.   Jeteupthemiddle
And that's my point. Every team played it for the remainder of the season. And I had no problems with it being played in 2002, but by 2004 it was like "ok we get it. stop."
2006-04-22 12:49:16
147.   yankaholic
Arent all these thing abt PR.. maybe u have a point.. but i dont have a problem with continuing it..
2006-04-22 12:52:38
148.   jayd
country is at war; guys are dying every week; iran is working on a bomb. I say play it. george is patriotic, by the way. and he is one of our best americans.

ooh look at kyle...

2006-04-22 12:53:52
149.   singledd
We should stop playing it and then start again when GWB announces we have won the war... oh.. wait... ah....
2006-04-22 12:56:35
150.   yankaholic
Kyle is good so far.. Tomorrow Posada catches Randy.. so i guess its not all Posada's fault for Randy's mechanical problem..
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2006-04-22 12:58:54
151.   yankaholic
Did u guys look at AL West.. all teams are at or under 500, they are gonna kill each other over there... the wild card comes from Central this year
2006-04-22 13:02:16
152.   Marcus
151 Well the AL East is all right around .500 or above. I don't think that will last, and neither will the AL West situation. I think the wild card is going to be a tough race between more teams than we've seen recently.
2006-04-22 13:04:47
153.   yankaholic
Its going to be mighty tight race.. we should wrap up the 9th div title though

Cano 11 game hitting streak..

2006-04-22 13:05:21
154.   yankz
Who's going to pitch the 9th?

153 I remember Cano had a long streak last year, too.

2006-04-22 13:06:57
155.   yankz
Only two hits for A-Rod? He's not living up to that contract.


2006-04-22 13:12:01
156.   jayd
contrast that slowmo of cano, head down ball on the bat with Andy Phillip's body wide open, head up -- jesus he looks terrible. I remember in spring training I thought he looked like arod -- tapping the bat on his shoulder, getting ready to unleash his body like a big cat. I thought this was going to be Andy's year. He looks baaaaad. 1 for 12. no wonder. poor kid.
2006-04-22 13:12:26
157.   yankaholic
Villone?? why?? why not let farnsworth get some inings?? hes had only 5 inings of work before today..
2006-04-22 13:13:02
158.   rsmith51
156 Time for Donnie Baseball to earn his keep.
2006-04-22 13:13:23
159.   Jeteupthemiddle
why make farnsworth pitch a second inning when they lead by 5 and it is pouring?

I don't understand, if farnsworth did pitch he would be "overused"

2006-04-22 13:14:04
160.   Jeteupthemiddle
oh, and when was the last time Villone got some innings? I don't recall him pitching recently. He needs to get work in too.
2006-04-22 13:14:23
161.   rsmith51
Save Farnsworth for tomorrow...

What happened with Dotel?

2006-04-22 13:19:11
162.   rbj
Damn, missed most of the game due to yard chores. It's the second time this season the Yankees have had a good game when I was outside in the yard. I think I need a bigger lawn.
Yanks win, Red Sox lose. And I still have the Mudhens - Clippers game tonight.
Woo hoo!
2006-04-22 14:02:28
163.   Bruce Markusen
Dotel felt some soreness in his elbow after throwing the other day. The Yankees say they will have him rest for five days before resuming his rehab program.

In other pitching "news," Carl Pavano went through another day without hurting his "backside." In a few days, he'll throw underhanded, then try some sidearm for awhile, then throw from flat ground for a couple of weeks. If he works diligently at this program, he'll be ready to toss from the mound by September.

2006-04-22 18:00:38
164.   Shaun P
157 Farnsworth has made it clear that he doesn't like pitching after the third out has been recorded. He doesn't want to get back on the mound, after he's gotten off it. And Joe, amazing, is listening to him.

Nice game today by Obi-Shawn Chacobi. Maybe its a home/road thing??

2006-04-22 18:20:21
165.   wsporter
MFD, It may be that Chacon just had a bad game to start the season and that when all is said and done he's just has a starters mentality. Those relief appearances must have been difficult for him especially if he had no feel for his curve ball. He really battled today. Once he found his breaking ball he seemed to move into another gear. We needed a well pitched start and he gave us one. I think that was a good win, especially after that nonsense last night.
2006-04-22 19:17:08
166.   Rob Gee
165 You're right on, wsport. I trekked to the Bronx today - ugh. What made it warm for me was that I slipped and slid around security before the game and ended up one row behind the Balmore dugout. Choice of seats down there today.

At the start it was real cold. I thought about how tough it must be for these guys to perform on a day like this. How your hands are all wet and numb and the bat stings good with Cabrera on the mound. Man, I can get on these guys, but today was no fun and I wuz wearing gloves and a hat and lots of gear.

Early on, it made me think whether Denver ever has days like this. I wondered why Obi-Shawn was having trouble. In the calendar they gave out it said he's from Alaska - so I wondered whether the real Chacon is regressing to the mean. His first innning fastball reached 89 and the curve was at 74. So the difference was there early on but not the results.

Your comment puts the pieces in order. Around the third inning it stopped raining and warmed up to maybe 54 and the jedi started to pull it together. That's exactly when he found his breaking ball. The little nubber that Tejada hit with two on made me think - "Man, how does this guy do it?". His stuff really is less than over powering - especially compared to Daniel C. And yet Shawn keeps guys off balance. The difference is really locating the slow stuff. Early on he had no trouble grooving the fast butter. It was when he found the hook that he started to get guys out.

Next thing I looked and it was the sixth. Good results for an ugly day. Best part: Cano had 2 BB's (first two!) and one hit. He may have had an advantage - he grew up in the same town with Cabrera. Turns out Daniel had an older brother who threw harder but could locate even less. Robbie knew that when Daniels's overthrowing at his hardest (97 early on) he's won't be locating. So Robbie waited. That mindset must have carried over to the 6th against Halama. Any chance Bruce Chen is from the Dominican Republic?

Only other thing that really got me agitated was that both Stinnett and Bernie were in there, especially when we were having trouble scoring. But at least Tea let one Unit start go without this personal catcher nonsense. Still, he should have pinch hit Posada in the sixth for Stinnett.

Great win, good times - keep it coming tomorrow.

2006-04-22 19:42:26
167.   randym77
We should win tomorrow. It's a day game.

AP notes that the Yankees are 7-0 in day games and 1-8 at night...

2006-04-22 19:47:40
168.   yankz
167 Wow, that is really, really weird. Any explanation? Can't just be coincidence...
2006-04-22 19:51:24
169.   wsporter
166 Rob, Hey man glad you got out there and got a good look at Chacon. He really is a fun guy to watch at the park when he's on. There is real art in the way he pitches. I was saying earlier that I think he deserves a regular turn every 5 days until he proves he doesn't. What a wet nasty day to be hitting a heavy hard curveball. Hope you had a flask with some good stuff in it. That's some neat stuff on RC. Watching on TV he REALLY looked comfortable today, like he had a pretty good approach for each ab. I sure hope we don't get the urge to move him for Zito or Willis.
2006-04-22 22:20:34
170.   brockdc
169 Not to say that FL would ever go for it, but, even if the Yanks could trade Cano, straight up, for Willis, I wouldn't want them to. I'm really starting to become attached. Steven Goldman's spinning over in his cubicle.
2006-04-23 00:33:55
171.   mikeplugh
Our first quality start of the year from someone other than Johnson or Mussina. Good pitching by Chacon.

Our first bases loaded hit since opening day, by Matsui. Nice going Gojira.

I wrote a recap of the game at Canyon of Heroes, with heavy emphasis on the bunting that took place. Check it out.

2006-04-23 03:19:47
172.   mikeplugh
As it was pointed out in the comment section of my piece at COH, Chien Ming Wang did have a quality start for the Yanks against Minny on 4/16. I stand corrected, but the Chacon victory was still against the grain of recent starts for the back end of the rotation.

Go get 'em Big Unit.

2006-04-23 04:17:35
173.   randym77
168 The AP article seemed to think it was just a fluke.

Part of it might be that their home games have been mostly day games. That West Coast swing had a lot of night games.

Though IIRC, there were some stats last year that showed Jeter and A-Rod hit a lot better in day games than at night. Easier to see the ball, maybe?

2006-04-23 07:18:24
174.   yankz
171 Didn't Wang have a quality start against the Twins?
2006-04-23 07:26:04
175.   Rob Gee
169 170

Zito - no way, esp. since we can have him for cash (Overpriced but not Past Prime) this winter.

Sorry, IMHO Cano for Willis you do in a heartbeat. I would take a half year of Cairo at 2nd if it meant Willis in stripes for that same half year. He's a 24 yo lefty who's already dominant. Heck, Cano and Hughes you do.

2006-04-23 07:51:31
176.   sam2175

Cano and Wang in a heartbeat for Willis. But definitely NOT Phil Hughes after the way he blew competition in high A. He has a chance to be better than what Willis will ever be. Yankees can afford a postseason or two if that is what it takes to keep him in the farm.

2006-04-23 08:14:33
177.   Jeteupthemiddle
Speaking of Hughes, he is expected to move up to Trenton in about 2 weeks.
2006-04-23 23:50:40
178.   Yu-Hsing Chen
Well, don't think you will get Willis for just Cano and Wang, it probably have to be at least 3 outta the 4 of Cano Wang Hughes and Duncan plus a few more throw in, which is just too much espically considering the recent pitching products out of DL... err I mean FL...

Nice but hairy game today watching two wild thing go at it early heh, but Chacon found he's stuff while Caberra tried he's best of not killing anyone ... Chacon's ability to get out of jam is just insane though.

Good base pushing today by the Yanks also, a good mix of small ball and smart base running with crucial timed hits. Mora's bunt was really damn prety though early in the game and about as perfect a bunt as anyone can put down.

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