Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
2006-04-12 08:40
by Cliff Corcoran

With yesterday's ugly 9-7 win on the books, the Yankees have allowed 16 runs in the two games started by Chien-Ming Wang and 14 runs in their other five contests. Seven of the 16 runs allowed in Wang's starts were given up by the Yankee bullpen across 7 1/3 innings. The Yankee pen has allowed just two runs in 8 2/3 innings in the other five games. The Yankee offense, meanwhile, as scored 34 runs in the team's three wins and ten in their four loses.

The Royals, meanwhile, have proved capable of both winning and losing both low and high-scoring affairs, dropping their first two against the Tigers 3-1 and 14-3, then taking their first two from the World Champion White Sox 11-7 and 4-3. Between yesterday's loss and that first win against the Chisox, the Royals scored 18 runs, but have scored just nine runs in their other four games.

It's too early for any of these stats to really be meaningful, but they sure are curious, and they make speculation about the potential of this afternoon's contest all the more difficult.

Today the Royals will send to the mound 25-year-old lefty Jeremy Affeldt. Affeldt was once considered a future rotation star for the Royals before blisters and other injuries pushed him to the bullpen. Last year he pitched exclusively in relief, and not all that well, serving as a second lefty behind Rule 5 pick and yesterday's losing pitcher Andy Sisco. The year before, he made just 8 starts and was far less effective as a starter than he was in his 30 relief appearances. This year he's been thrust back into the rotation by the mysterious disapperances of Zack Greinke, who skipped the team in late February and is on the DL due to psychological issues, and Runelvys Hernandez, whom the Royals tried to placed on the DL due to "lack of stamina" after he showed up for camp overweight but were forced to option to Omaha instead. In his first start this season, Affeldt lasted just four innings, surrendering six runs on seven hits and a pair of walks to the White Sox.

The Yankees counter with Shawn Chacon, who faired better in his first start against the Angels, though not dramatically so, giving up four runs on eight hits and two walks in 5 2/3 innings. One encouraging sign was that Chacon struck out four in those 5 2/3 innings despite a mere 58 percent of his pitches being strikes. This against an Angels team that was the second hardest in baseball to strikout in 2005. Both Chacon and Affeldt feature big 12-6 curves, which just may be my favorite pitch to watch. If only I could take today off of work as well.

Mike Sweeney, who left yesterday's game in the ninth after being hit on the right hand by a Mariano Rivera pitch, is expected to be in the line-up for Kansas City. His x-rays were negative.

Update: Joe Torre is sitting Robinson Cano against the lefty Affeldt, giving Miguel Cairo his second start in the Yankees' first eight games. Cairo is hitting ninth behind Bernie, who will play right field allowing Sheffield to DH. Sweeney, meanwhile, is not in the line-up for the Royals. Matt Stairs will DH for KC instead.

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2006-04-12 09:51:30
1.   markp
"I'm putting Cairo in there so he can get some at bats. I'd like to get him in there once a week."
Cairo played yesterday, so he's already been in once this week. The thought of him being the first option at 1B when Giambi isn't there and getting a start at 2B once a week is maddening. Cashman didn't come close to idiot-proofing the roster. GoB and Cairo will probably get 700+ PAs between them. Amazing.
2006-04-12 09:54:05
2.   Knuckles
Nice post title. I'm playing hooky myself today- painting the house, watching the Yanks, and heading to the Nats-Mets game tonight.
2006-04-12 10:02:12
3.   Sliced Bread
Love the curveballer matchup today.

Cano "lifetime" against lefties: .263
Cairo is a .297 career hitter v southpaws. Not the worst call Joe has made this season.

re: Wang. No worries yet. He started both games strong, but fell apart around the fourth inning both times.

He needs to sharpen his focus and maintain command of his sinker in the middle innings. Does Posada have a good rapport with Wang, or is it up to Guidry and Kerrigan to help him?

That's good news re: Sweeney. My hand hurts just thinking about how he got drilled. Last thing we need is the Royals pitchers retaliating against one of the Yanks sluggers.

2006-04-12 10:07:34
4.   Sliced Bread
uh, make that bad news re: Sweeney. Hopefully not too serious.
2006-04-12 10:08:34
5.   Shaun P
markp 1 - SIGH.
2006-04-12 10:17:39
6.   Rob Gee
You could argue we just had to re-sign GOB. The Cairo signing - my god. If any thing you have Andy for 1B and 2B (days like these) and Escalona as an emergency for SS and 3B. Bad signing by a certain GM - among other calls.

Any chance we see Giambi in the 3 hole this half of the season?

Who wants to bet Reggie Sanders is our DH come July 29th?

2006-04-12 10:19:34
7.   tocho
Chacon, Chacon, Chacon.

3-0 KC.

2006-04-12 10:19:51
8.   Marcus
Looks like the clock struck has midnight for Chacon-darella. Please stop the bleeding...
2006-04-12 10:21:06
9.   jedi
Chacon looks like he is locating his ball pretty good out there...good sign
2006-04-12 10:21:21
10.   Start Spreading the News
6 Rob, Andy doesn't play 2B.
2006-04-12 10:22:03
11.   jedi
He might as well now...
2006-04-12 10:22:53
12.   tocho
here comes the offense.
2006-04-12 10:23:09
13.   Sliced Bread
Well, they'll need the bats again today.

Reggie Sanders 2 run home run, off-the-wall double over Damon's head makes it 3-0. He was twisting and leaping at the wall.

At least Bernie didn't crash into Cairo on that pop to shallow center.

Even though the inning was bookended by two strikeouts, I've lost my appetite for lunch.

2006-04-12 10:24:48
14.   standuptriple
I'll let a couple innings get in the books before I unleash my rage. This is not the birthday present I requested. Where's that damn gift receipt?
2006-04-12 10:27:15
15.   jedi
Since when did the Royals become last years Devil Rays for the yanks. They are a pesky crew...arent they!

There is only one thing guaranteed this early in this game...There WILL be another hero today boys!

2006-04-12 10:28:02
16.   rbj
WTF, I turn gamechannel on 15 minutes late and it's 3-nil KC already.
What was the licenseplate of that truck?
2006-04-12 10:29:02
17.   Rob Gee
10 He doesn't play 2B in the Bronx. Andy came up as a 2B and with some innings there in the Spring he could get it down to play the spare innings.

Of course, your comment could be taken as an indictment of the Torre mindset.

2006-04-12 10:29:22
18.   Sliced Bread
Guess somebody slipped a little tobacco juice into Sheffield's Gator-aid.

Cold turkey THIS! 3-run homer!

2006-04-12 10:29:26
19.   Cliff Corcoran
I would welcome Reggie Sanders as the Yankee DH, but, despite his playing for eight different teams over the last nine years, he's never switched teams mid-season.
2006-04-12 10:29:28
20.   jedi

The youngest hitting bearded man out there.

2006-04-12 10:30:40
21.   Rob Gee
Sterling has a new one: "da Master Shef"!
2006-04-12 10:30:53
22.   Marcus
Small ball be damned!
2006-04-12 10:30:54
23.   rbj
That's better. Thanks, Sheff.
2006-04-12 10:30:55
24.   Cliff Corcoran
Why do I feel like this is going to be like that Carl Pavano v. Jamie Moyer mid-week day game from early last season?
2006-04-12 10:32:35
25.   Cliff Corcoran
I like that Gameday says "homered on a fly ball to left field." As if he could homer on a grounder or on a two-hopper.
2006-04-12 10:32:43
26.   Marcus
Can we take a first pitch there A-Rod? Affedlt isn't exactly painting the corners out of the gates.
2006-04-12 10:34:28
27.   Rob Gee
19 He would be an upgrade if Andy isn't getting those AB's or doesn't perform in the 20 he'll get.

But who do you trade? What's his value? And why not sign him from the get go? Or even Encarnacion?

As it looks now Bubba (esp. when you use Cairo as a PR) and Andy are wasted roster slots.

2006-04-12 10:35:57
28.   Sliced Bread
Now, let's see what Chacon does with the mulligan Sheff granted him.
2006-04-12 10:36:14
29.   Shaun P
I can't take another roller-coaster ride. That said, home runs are a fact of life, and its only the first inning.
2006-04-12 10:36:33
30.   Sliced Bread
What a relief to see Sheff smiling and relaxed in the dugout there.
2006-04-12 10:38:11
31.   Cliff Corcoran
I believe Sanders ended last year with a leg injury. He was old and hurt. Not a good signing, but he appears to be just fine now, so a trade would work. Allard Baird has proven to be a mark and Sanders is hardly Jermaine Dye or Carlos Beltran or, oh right, Johnny Damon. I bet the Yanks could get him for a couple no-future mLers. But I'm not advocating this as the best-posible move, just reacting to your comment in 6
2006-04-12 10:38:36
32.   Sliced Bread
6? pitch inning for Chacon, including a strikeout. Nice.
2006-04-12 10:39:28
33.   Sliced Bread
Kay says 5 pitch inning. Even better.
2006-04-12 10:46:51
34.   Shaun P
Alright, Obi-Shawn Chacobi, keep those mind tricks working!

In case anyone is interested, I've gotten through 2 months worth of PBP data from 2000, and I've yet to find a single instance of Derek Jeter having a productive out that led to runs scoring.

2006-04-12 10:48:11
35.   tommyl
Does Andy Phillips even have a PA this year?

Its criminal to keep trotting Bernie and Cairo out there (especially to play 1B!). What is Phillips on the roster for? highly paid waterboy?

I'm not saying he should play every day, or that he is the next coming but the (old) kid has earned a shot at an extended look. Certainly over Miguel Cairo. Mazzili at least must know this, no?

2006-04-12 10:49:33
36.   Rob Gee

If Sanders is at the price of "no future MLB'ers" then I'm for it too - PP but not O.

Especially since I can't see any DH on the team working out for us. GOB will be GOB and Andy won't play enough. My god - it's like a train wreck at 10mph. But I agree - not the best possible solution - a solution.

2006-04-12 10:49:35
37.   standuptriple
Well, I was hoping maybe Cairo could teach Cano the importance of a BB.
2006-04-12 10:51:33
38.   Sliced Bread
Posada muscles a single between short and third, Bernie scorches a wormburner to third for F.C. (victimized by nice diving catch), Cairo flies out to straight-away center, Damon slaps 3-2 pitch for bloop single over third (Bernie going on hit & run), Jeter grounds out to end inning, stranding 2.

Time to get lunch.

2006-04-12 10:55:40
39.   Cliff Corcoran
I'm rockin' the new ESPN Gamecast. The animation on the pitches and hits is loads of fun, but the layout is a bit counterintuitive. I'll give it this game to see if my eye gets used to where to look. Overall, it's not really better than MLB's Gameday save for that animation and the stats ticker that give you splits and matchups during each at-bat.
2006-04-12 10:56:19
40.   Sliced Bread
Nice play by A-Rod diving to his left, Jeter handles chopper over Chacon's head, then, a pop up to short.
Chacon is back on track.

Now, it's time for lunch.

2006-04-12 10:57:49
41.   Cliff Corcoran
Check that. Gamecast is extremely counterintiutive. I hope they redesign the page but keep the cool graphics, animations and the ticker.
2006-04-12 10:59:08
42.   Marcus
Hey Sliced,

Thanks for the play by play details. Keep it up for us Gameday-ers!

2006-04-12 11:04:32
43.   Shaun P
Cliff re 41 - I believe that espn's gamecast is still in beta. Don't know if you saw it - I almost missed it yesterday - but there's a link for you to send comments to them in the upper right corner.
2006-04-12 11:05:31
44.   nickb
I personally prefer the CBS Gamecenter. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it has pretty much all the important information on the same screen. If they added those cool ESPN animations, they'd really have something!
2006-04-12 11:08:40
45.   Shaun P
C'mon GOB! Let's tack another one on.
2006-04-12 11:09:50
46.   rbj
I'm toggling back and forth between Yahoo's gamechannel and ESPN's gamecast. I like the animation on 'cast, plus pitch location, but 'channel seems tidier.
2006-04-12 11:10:37
47.   Rob Gee
Maybe an 0-fer-10 will serve a good lesson to Tea about the bottom of his order?
2006-04-12 11:11:47
48.   nickb
Can someone explain to me why Buddy Bell justifies pulling former starter Elmer Dessens yesterday after 19 pitches and an easy two innings, yet he leaves in former reliever Jeremy Affeldt for 71(!) pitches in only three harrowing innings? This guy might be the worst manager in baseball right now.
2006-04-12 11:15:25
49.   joejoejoe
The only DHs that are going to dramatically reduce Bernie's ABs are Giambi and Sheffield. Maybe Cashman likes Shef at DH and picks up an OF to force Torre's hand. There are some decent '07 OF free agents that might pop free (Torii Hunter, Shannon Stewart, Alfonso Soriano) at the trade deadline. Pick one up and Bernie becomes a player-coach with drastically reduced ABs.
2006-04-12 11:16:56
50.   Shaun P
nickb re: 48 - If I had to guess why he hasn't pull Affeldt yet, I'd say because he burned his two best long guys (Dessens and Wood) yesterday. Is Luke Hudson in the pen? Maybe Bell forgot that Gobble was a starter once upon a time, and could potentially go long as well?

Truth be told, I don't think Bell has any logical justifications behind most of his moves. He's not a good manager at all.

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2006-04-12 11:19:19
51.   nickb
Yeah, Hudson and Gobble are out there. Of course, I wouldn't trust Gobble as far as I could throw him, but he couldn't be much worse than Affeldt. The Yankee offense is a time bomb just ticking away while Affeldt is out there.
2006-04-12 11:19:21
52.   standuptriple
Maybe Stewart the last time he was up for FA (remember...when we had Knoblauch in LF) but not now. Hunter could fit in I guess, but then where do we put Damon? LF or DH? I'd rather not have a Soriano re-run now that his true colors are showing.
2006-04-12 11:21:48
53.   Sliced Bread
Didn't see Chacon's first out in the fourth, follows by walking Brown on four pitches, Matsui runs a long way to make basket catch in shallow left (almost foul), induces pop up behind home plate, Royals go quietly.
2006-04-12 11:22:58
54.   Cliff Corcoran
Hunter's ankle is supposedly a time bomb it best. I'd say hands off him as well.
2006-04-12 11:23:18
55.   Rob Gee
47 There goes that idea. Maybe hot hitting Miggy at 1B tomorrow?
2006-04-12 11:23:57
56.   nickb
Annnnnd...Affeldt is sent out for another inning. I predict a crooked number for the Yanks...
2006-04-12 11:29:09
57.   joejoejoe
How many runners get picked off on a 3-2 count at 1st? The ESPN announcers are saying Affeldt should use his best move to catch Damon running on the pitch. I can't remember seeing that happen once, ever.
2006-04-12 11:30:33
58.   standuptriple
jjj, it's ESPN, aka Al-Jazeera of sports.
2006-04-12 11:31:25
59.   Sliced Bread
Yanks fourth: Cairo rips line-drive single to left, Damon scorches grounder to first for F.C., Jeter works a 8? pitch walk, Sheff hammers RBI single between third and short, Damon scores from second. 5-3 Yanks. Pitching change, Enter Gobble.
2006-04-12 11:34:30
60.   Shaun P
nickb re 51 - uh-oh 59. Personally, I'm pleased to see Gobble facing the MVP.

For all our complaining about Torre and Cashman and their blunders - you have to deal with Bell, Baird, and David Glass! That takes stones, man. You have my respect 1000%.

2006-04-12 11:34:56
61.   Sliced Bread
Yanks fourth continued: A-Rod launches high fly ball to deep left center, should have used the 9 iron instead of the wedge.
2006-04-12 11:36:09
62.   pistolpete
Cliff - I'm liking the GameCast 'cept for one thing - make a mini-version that I can stick up in the right corner of my monitor and still get some work done!

The photo feature and the scrolling stats on the bottom are pretty schweet, tho'...

2006-04-12 11:36:28
63.   Sliced Bread
Yanks 4th continued: Jeter scores on wild pitch, Sheff advances to 2nd. 6-3 Yanks.
2006-04-12 11:38:33
64.   Cliff Corcoran
Okay, having checked out Gameday, Gamecast, Gamechannel and Gamecenter (that's MLB, ESPN, Yahoo and CBS), I rank them like this:

1) MLB Gameday - has everything you need and even tells you when there's a pick-off throw to first. Graphics aren't all that attractive, but things are all placed well so that the the eye flows across it comfortably and the information is easy to process.

2) ESPN Gamecast - the best graphics of the bunch (even without the animations, the design is handsome and modern), but the layout is counterintuitive and there's plenty of room for improvement (such as putting a batter next to their strikezone, which both MLB and CBS do, making the groundball animations stay on the ground, or updating non-pitch actions such as stolen bases or pick-off attempts better or at all), which hopefully will come as it's in beta. Seeing actual motion on the field is a huge plus. This could knock off MLB if ESPN redesigns so that the information is presented in a way that's easier to process.

3) CBS Gamecenter - lacks the specific field dimensions of MLB and ESPN, graphics are very outdated, looks like a web page from 1995. Strike zone graphic is way too small and the image makes me think I'm watching a game at the Kingdome or Tropicana. Not fun.

4) Yahoo Gamechannel - no pitch location, last year's mug shots, generic field diagram, I'd go on, but I lost interest after noticing those three right off the bat.

2006-04-12 11:40:39
65.   nickb
Yeah, Shaun, it's like following the Unholy Trinity. I guess that's the curse of growing up in KC in the 70s/80s; the high expections of the kid get squelched as an adult. I've become a fan of the game in general over the last ten years, so at least I can appreciate watching a good team like the Yankees.
2006-04-12 11:41:53
66.   Shaun P
For all those interested re: small ball:

I have now gone through the 2000 PBP data for the Yanks up to the All-Star Break. In 132 chances to do something with a runner on base, Derek Jeter has yet to have a productive out that results in a runner later scoring.

I will keep plugging along. If anyone knows where to get the PBP data for '96-'99, please let me know.

2006-04-12 11:42:51
67.   Rob Gee
60 The Royals aren't also spending 200mil nor are they expected to make the post-season. They're not our true competition.

In comparison to the other teams we'll likely battle in the post-season (ChiSox, BoSox, Angels, Indians, Twins, A's) our GM is better than none of them and our manager is only better than probably half. When every loss counts so much more, those two guys counts that much more.

2006-04-12 11:44:24
68.   Rob Gee
Gruz is another guy that could be starting for us today - un-freakin'-believable.
2006-04-12 11:45:48
69.   Cliff Corcoran
Ah crap, Chacon's given two back right off the bat in the fifth. One-run game.
2006-04-12 11:46:54
70.   Marcus
Rob, it would be nice to have Grudzielanek rather than Cairo, but he wasn't going to sign with the Yankees to be a back up.
2006-04-12 11:47:59
71.   Cliff Corcoran
I'm stunned that Grudz signed with the Royals. He's a useful guy that could have landed with a contender. I just don't get it. Did he want to start so bad that he was willing to play in KC to do it? Ditto Sanders. Did the Cubs not want either of these guys for any particular reason? Reggie hasn't been in Chicago yet, so he could have gone there.
2006-04-12 11:48:13
72.   Shaun P
I don't know, Rob 67 - before the last couple of years, Kenny Williams was a pretty bad GM. Over their careers, I think Cash has to rate ahead of him.

Terry Ryan is an awful GM. Can't find hitting talent, and when he does, can't develop it. (Though Mauer and Morneau might help with that.) Worse, he's been sooo close so many times, with plenty of prospects to trade, and what has he netted at the deadline in all those years? Shannon Stewart. Ugh.

I'd put Cashman ahead of those 2. Theo is hard to judge, with just 3 years of work. And the rest, well, you are talking about the best 3 GMs in the game (Beane, Stoneman, and Shapiro).

2006-04-12 11:50:15
73.   pistolpete
Why all the trouble with KC over the past few years? Hasn't anyone told them they're supposed to stink?

And is it possible to win a pennant where the team ERA is 4.50? Sheesh...

2006-04-12 11:51:07
74.   Cliff Corcoran
Two words about Stoneman: Darin Erstad.
2006-04-12 11:53:33
75.   Sliced Bread
Sorry for the spotty play-by-play... my dayjob prevents me from being more thorough here.

Chacon seems determined to keep K.C.'s hopes alive yielding 2 runs in the fifth.

Chacon should be back for the 6th...

Unless the Yanks can break the game open, the middle relievers will be put to the test very soon.

Jaret Wright is warming up, but presumably for his start this weekend.

Matsui gets Yanks 5th started blooping an opposite field single.

2006-04-12 11:55:20
76.   Cliff Corcoran
73 In 2000 the Yankees' team ERA was 4.76, but in general, history supports you. That '00 Yankees team was damn lucky they even made the postseason.
2006-04-12 11:56:01
77.   Shaun P
True 74, but look at that farm system! On the whole, I think Stoneman has done a great job.
2006-04-12 11:56:28
78.   Cliff Corcoran
Wright's starting Saturday. Today's his throw day. I could see Torre using him for an inning or (if he's efficient, which he won't be, but if . . .) two.
2006-04-12 11:58:40
79.   Sliced Bread
Yanks 5th: Batting right handed against Gobble, Posada works the count to 3-2 and walks. Matsui to 2nd.. Exit Gobble, enter Hudson.
2006-04-12 12:07:22
80.   Cliff Corcoran
77 Granted.

Meanwhile, the more I watch the ESPN Gamecast, the more stuff I notice that it doesn't do (give you the count on which each at-bat ended, give you the strike/ball breakdown for the pitcher's pitch total, it's in-game box score is woefully lacking--no LOB, SB/CS, WP/PB, GB/FB, inherited runners, umps, weather). Also ESPN also has out-dated mug shots. MLB Gameday just can't be beat, the nifty animation is fools gold.

2006-04-12 12:08:52
81.   Cliff Corcoran
Yanks get those two runs back. Cairo's paying off (2 for 3, RBI). Bernie isn't (0 for 3, K, 5 LOB). Miguel Cario for DH! ;)
2006-04-12 12:09:28
82.   rbj
What, nothing about Gobble being a real turkey, or the fowl balls?

To me, it seems the hitters are doing better today in working the count and putting the balls in play -- or am I wrong?

2006-04-12 12:11:32
83.   rbj
Cliff, gamechannel still has Chacon in a Rockies cap. Yeesh, get some new images guys.
2006-04-12 12:11:53
84.   Cliff Corcoran
I dunno, rbj, the Yankees walked something like seven times yesterday and hit a pair of three-run dingers. That's not so bad. I mean they did score nine runs. You remember that, right?
2006-04-12 12:12:32
85.   nickb
Royals pitchers have thrown 122 pitches through five innings. I'd say the Yanks are definitely working the count.
2006-04-12 12:13:05
86.   Cliff Corcoran
Emil Brown's MLB mugshot looks like he's literally saying "cheese."
2006-04-12 12:16:05
87.   Cliff Corcoran
Chacon's line looks earily like his first start right now:

Game 1: 5 2/3 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 2 BB, 4 K
Today: 5 2/3 IP, 6 H, 5 R, 2 BB, 5 K

2006-04-12 12:16:58
88.   Shaun P
For all those interested re: small ball:

I have now gone through the 2000 PBP data for the Yanks up to the end of July. In 170 chances to do something with a runner on base, Derek Jeter has made 3 'productive outs' that resulted in a runner/runners later scoring. And I'm being generous - in two of the 3 instances, the runner(s) would have scored even without the 'PO'.

For those scoring at home, that means less than 2 percent of the time with a runner/runners on, Jeter made an out that led to a Yankee run. (If I'm less generous, its not even 1 percent of the time.)

2006-04-12 12:17:00
89.   Simone
I'm waiting a month before I declare this some of worse Yankee pitching in the last decade.
2006-04-12 12:17:17
90.   Sliced Bread
Chacon is back for the 6th: strikes out Brown swinging, Teahen works count to 3-2, takes strike three on outside corner... Berroa lines out to A-Rod diving to his left.
Thank you.
2006-04-12 12:17:29
91.   Rob Gee
72 You could say K.Williams wasn't given the resources until recently. But you look at their extensive development of talent and you have to atribute it to their GM. No such luck in the Bronx.

Same thing from Ryan. He's not great but he's recently developed a Cy Young winner. Can't say that of the Bronx.

And while Theo falls below the top 3, his willingness to admit obvious mistakes and move on to get real value (Rentaria) ranks highly in my book. Also, in the few years he's been there he's already developed true talent. In AL, I'd put him at #5, behind Williams. Ryan after that. Our GM might slot in at #7 or #8 depending on your feelings about Dave Dombrowski. That seems about right to me.

2006-04-12 12:17:37
92.   BklynBomber
79 Thanks for the updates, sliced! Storm KO'd my cable until right now, so much appreciated...

5 runs for KC? Has Chacon been a victim of circumstances, or is he off today?

2006-04-12 12:17:48
93.   Cliff Corcoran
It will be interesting to see how much longer Chacon lasts and if he ends on an up or a down, but twice through the rotation, there's been no variety of performance. Everyone has more or less repeated their first start the second time through.
2006-04-12 12:24:57
94.   rbj
True Cliff. I was just thinking off the awful mid-innings where someone would get on and stay there. Course I was looking at just gamechannel, which I think tends not to paint a really good picture of a game.
2006-04-12 12:25:49
95.   BklynBomber
Giambi looked like he did back with A's there. And the speed... ;-)
2006-04-12 12:26:54
96.   Shaun P
Now, Giambi advancing to third on the throw home - if you call that small ball, that's the kind of small ball I like!
2006-04-12 12:27:12
97.   pistolpete
Walking Matsui with only a man at 3rd? Oh, I forgot the (normally) human DP machine was on deck... ;)
2006-04-12 12:29:14
98.   nickb
Has anyone ever seen a study on the success rate of intentionally walking a guy with less than two outs and runners in scoring position? I wonder if the age old wisdom is correct or not...
2006-04-12 12:29:14
99.   Sliced Bread
Yanks 6th: Sheff grounds weakly to third... A-Rod works count: 1-2, 2-2, foul ball, 3-2, walk... Giambi: 0-1, 0-2, foul ball, 1-2, drives one to deep left center (warning track), A-Rod scores from first, Giambi chugs and slides into third for triple. 9-5 Yanks... Matsui takes intentional walk... Posada smacks would-be sac fly to left, Brown guns down Giambi at the plate. Great throw, good tag.
2006-04-12 12:29:43
100.   pistolpete
Well, ya gotta give Posada credit - at least that particular DP was a creative way to do it...
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2006-04-12 12:32:11
101.   Sliced Bread
Replay reveals Giambi might have gotten his foot on plate before tag... verrry close...

Chacon gives up laser single past diving Giambi... he's done... heeere's ???

2006-04-12 12:33:37
102.   Sliced Bread
2006-04-12 12:35:18
103.   Sliced Bread
2006-04-12 12:36:36
104.   Schteeve
Can you make the playoffs with a 4.76 team ERA? Sure, if the offense scores 5 runs a game.
2006-04-12 12:37:17
105.   pistolpete
Why is Myers still in against Grudz?
2006-04-12 12:37:19
106.   Marcus
Leaving Myers in to face a righty who's having a good day at the plate. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this...
2006-04-12 12:38:34
107.   Marcus
I guess it works out, now you have Myers in for Mientkiewicz
2006-04-12 12:39:47
108.   pistolpete
Mientkiewicz career against Myers - 0 for 5, but still a big gamble by Torre letting him face Grudz...
2006-04-12 12:40:03
109.   Sliced Bread
Myers to Gruz gamble pays off with double play, Minkie smokes one to Bernie, end of frame. Stttrrrrretch
2006-04-12 12:40:10
110.   pistolpete
Make it 0 for 6!
2006-04-12 12:40:31
111.   Shaun P
And Stairs, as well. I don't know if Costa is so dangerous that you need Myers to face him, but as long as Torre doesn't make a habit of leaving Myers in against righties . . .
2006-04-12 12:42:11
112.   rbj
Seems to have worked out ok. This time.
2006-04-12 12:42:41
113.   Shaun P
nickb re: 98 - someone at Baseball Prospectus did such a study a couple (?) years ago. They found that intentionally walking a guy with less than 2 outs with runner(s) in scoring position was, to put it simply, nuts.

Can't remember who wrote it or exactly when, but it shouldn't be hard to find by search.

2006-04-12 12:44:05
114.   pistolpete
>>Meanwhile, the more I watch the ESPN Gamecast, the more stuff I notice that it doesn't do (give you the count on which each at-bat ended

You can see the count on the very last at bat of the inning, at least..

So how does one link to a specific-numbrered post? I see it on here all the time but I'm not quite sure how to do it...

2006-04-12 12:45:14
115.   Cliff Corcoran
Myers has been nails this year . . . in his three total innings of work. Yeah yeah, sample size. Still, lookin' good.
2006-04-12 12:46:03
116.   Cliff Corcoran
114, put the number in brackets: [#]
2006-04-12 12:47:06
117.   Schteeve
Cliff that should come as no surprise, as Dr. Loomis has been trying to tell us for years, Michael Myers IS NOT HUMAN!
2006-04-12 12:47:13
118.   nickb
Thanks, Shaun. I figured BP probably did one on it (seems like something they would have covered in their latest book). It just doesn't seem to make much sense putting another guy on base, particularly when your pitchers haven't gotten anyone out to begin with.
2006-04-12 12:47:22
119.   Sliced Bread
Kay and O'Neil discussed the Myers to righty gamble, O'Neil says it's worth it to get to Mientkie, and assures us Myers wouldn't be used against Manny Ramirez. Good call, Paulie.
2006-04-12 12:49:10
120.   pistolpete
116 Thanks! ;)
2006-04-12 12:49:48
121.   Start Spreading the News
Hmm. Cairo walks!!!??? Then he steals 2nd and takes third on a fly ball. Wow.

Maybe Torre will have him bat leadoff in the future.

2006-04-12 12:50:05
122.   Cliff Corcoran
Cairo walks, steals, moves to third on a fly. He's having a helluva game.

Meanwhile, even if Cairo's stranded the Yankee offense is on a 1018 run pace.

2006-04-12 12:50:47
123.   Schteeve
Have more runs been scored, Season To Date than last season at this time? It seems like we're seeing lots of double digit scores across MLB. Anyone have the stats handy?
2006-04-12 12:50:53
124.   pistolpete
Nice, Derek - loving the 2-out RBIs today...
2006-04-12 12:52:36
125.   Shaun P
And the Cap'n brings Cairo home. Question for someone watching on TV - would Cairo have scored from second? I'm guessing no but I'm curious. Thanks in advance!
2006-04-12 12:55:28
126.   joejoejoe
At this rate Torre is going to be giving A-Rod days off to play Cairo at 3B.
2006-04-12 12:55:57
127.   monkeypants
Hmmm. I wonder if Andy Phillips will be allowed out for an AB today. Of course, first base defense is vitally important in the last inning of a five or six run game.
2006-04-12 12:57:08
128.   Cliff Corcoran
When does the mercy rule kick in? This game is a whole lot of over.
2006-04-12 12:57:25
129.   Shaun P
I see bad defense doesn't just afflict the Yanks.
2006-04-12 12:57:54
130.   pistolpete
Hell, give Koy Hill an AB today!
2006-04-12 12:57:57
131.   nickb
Gee, it's nice to see Angel Berroa defend the honor of the ROY he stole from Matsui...
2006-04-12 12:58:00
132.   Schteeve
Giambi's patience at the plate is spooky.
2006-04-12 12:58:13
133.   Shaun P
126 127 - ROTFLOL!

Its funny because its true.

2006-04-12 12:58:59
134.   joejoejoe
Andy Phillips in to pinch run.
2006-04-12 13:00:04
135.   tommyl

Now if they can just bat around in the 8th, he might get one!

2006-04-12 13:00:21
136.   standuptriple
He must be really fast.
2006-04-12 13:02:56
137.   Start Spreading the News
Is it safe enough for Proctor now?
2006-04-12 13:03:03
138.   tommyl
Who pitches now? Wright to get an inning of work?
2006-04-12 13:04:32
139.   pistolpete
137 I say no. Barely safe enough for Sturtze either.
2006-04-12 13:04:32
140.   tommyl
Farnsworth?! WHY?
2006-04-12 13:04:54
141.   tommyl
Farnsworth?! WHY?
2006-04-12 13:05:04
142.   Cliff Corcoran
Someone asked earlier or in the comments to the previous post: Phillips has had two PA's this year, he flied out to left and grounded out to short. I think this is his fourth game, however. He was a defensive sub yesterday and a pinch runner today. I think the rule is Phillips only plays if the Yankees score 9 or more runs, which means he could get in a couple of games a week and finish the season with about 17 ABs.
2006-04-12 13:05:24
143.   tommyl
Sorry for the double post. Stupid old Unix box at work.
2006-04-12 13:05:40
144.   monkeypants
141 Because Flash Gordon is not available.
2006-04-12 13:06:08
145.   tommyl
142, it was me, thanks for the info Cliff. I am definitely chuckling right now.
2006-04-12 13:06:30
146.   Cliff Corcoran
Farns must need the work. Whatever, the good news is the Yanks are about to win their first series of the year and will get a chance to sweep the Royals tomorrow. S'all good.
2006-04-12 13:07:39
147.   Shaun P
No surprise here that Lord Farnswacker is in to pitch. When did he make his last appearance, Sunday?

Might as well get him some work. The problem is, who pitches the 9th? Villone?

2006-04-12 13:07:50
148.   Start Spreading the News
It has been a while since Farns pitched. Hopefully one quick inning here and then we see Villone or Proctor or Wright.
2006-04-12 13:08:28
149.   rbj
I assume Farns just wants/needs an inning of work. Who's out there for the ninth?
2006-04-12 13:09:34
150.   tommyl
146, 147, 148

Ahhh, you guys are right. I was confusing Sunday's game with yesterday. Apologies.

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2006-04-12 13:09:53
151.   pistolpete
Agreed with Shaun - get Villone some work in the 9th...

Yeesh, I sure hope we have this problem a lot...

2006-04-12 13:11:26
152.   Cliff Corcoran
Hey, at least Andy got to flash some leather, just as he did on Sunday.
2006-04-12 13:12:03
153.   Shaun P
With only 13 pitches thrown, could Lord Farnswacker come out to start the 9th?
2006-04-12 13:15:35
154.   Start Spreading the News
I want to see Phillips get up to plate and hit a homer.
2006-04-12 13:17:48
155.   Start Spreading the News
That's the Cairo I am used to seeing.
2006-04-12 13:26:08
156.   rbj
Now that's a good game -- only concern is Chacon losing it for a bit.
2006-04-12 13:26:19
157.   pistolpete
Nice job by Villone - I don't know what it looked like on TV, but it seemed like he breezed through that inning on GameCast...
2006-04-12 13:32:43
158.   Sliced Bread
Well, I missed the last couple innings. Returned to the TV for the final out.

Great to see Sheff break out in a big way.

YES showed a slo-mo replay of Sheff's last line drive. We see a redheaded woman sitting in the primo seats, wearing sunglasses. She is smiling as the pitch approaches Sheffield. As he makes contact with that vicious swing, just bludgeoning the ball, you see her expression immediately turn to what almost appears to be horror, as if she's suddenly witnessing a baby seal being clubbed to death. Welcome back, Sheff.

Chacon? No worries. Made some mistakes and paid for them. Seems to me that he and Wang have to build up their physical and mental stamina. Good news is that they don't seem to require major adjustments.

2006-04-12 13:34:24
159.   Sliced Bread
Miguel Cairo named the Chevy Player of The Game.
2006-04-12 13:37:32
160.   tocho
Great win, new season. I know its early but lets hope wells sucks tonight and the rest of the season...
2006-04-12 13:38:35
161.   Shaun P
Good for him 159, good for the Yanks today.

Bad for the Yanks as the season goes on. Now Torre may be tempted to 'play the hot hand'. We'll know for sure when we see the starting lineups for Saturday vs. Johan Santana.

Personally, I hope both Phillips and Cano start that game, Phillips at DH since Wang isn't pitching.

2006-04-12 13:39:36
162.   rilkefan
159 - well, did Sheffield draw a walk?
2006-04-12 14:02:29
163.   markp
Sheffield goes 3 for 5 with 2 runs and 4 ribbies, but Cairo's the player of the game? That's absurd (but hardly surprising.)
2006-04-12 14:12:53
164.   brockdc
159Yes. The Yanks win again, in spite of Torre, not because of him.

Villone's performance was solid - again. He seems like a strong addition to the pen.

2006-04-12 14:13:42
165.   Jeteupthemiddle
I would like to take credit for Sheffield's awesome day. Obviously, today is the day I benched him on my fantasy team. lol
2006-04-12 14:42:27
166.   randym77
Nice win!

Celizic, who was just about writing the Yanks' epitaph last year at this time, is not worried this year:

He points out that, even if Chacon and Wang end up being not as good as many fans hoped, they're still a huge improvement over the guys who were pitching last year in their spots (Keven Brown and Carl Pavano).

2006-04-12 17:37:54
167.   Simone
Heh. I just watch the highlights on ESPN. Bowa looked like he was in serious jeopardy when Sheffield was at bat. The man hits the ball hard.
2006-04-12 21:09:47
168.   Zack
Torre is quoted in the Times saying he would "try to find a start" for Phillips. Funny, he has "found" two starts for Cairo already...I think that is Joe speak for he will start once every two weeks.

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