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While Matt Cerrone is keeping steady tabs on all the hub bub down in Big D, our pal Steve Lombardi is killin' it from the Yankees side of things. Head on over to Was Watching for the latest on Gary Matthews Jr (update: ESPN is reporting that Juan Pierre has been dealt to the Cubbies), Tony Womack, and players the Yanks could dangle as trade bait. Meanwhile, Brian MacMillian has a series of links detailing how the Bombers' blue-chip prospect Eric Duncan won the MVP of the Arizona Fall League.
A bunch of things are brewing in Dallas. I caught ESPN last night and Peter Gammons expected a flurry of activity later today into tomorrow (winds light to variable). The question for us in the Bronx is will any of it involve the Yanks?
Damon projects as a real good player for two years, a good player for the third, Darin Erstad in year 4. Considering the Yanks recent troubles with the back end of long term deals, they probably wisely don't want to pay for that fourth year.
As for the Sox, it's much more easy for them considering what he's meant to the franchise.
There is more value in Damon for both teams, however, not just in what he brings to the team with whom he signs, but also the simple fact that the other won't have him.
All we need is a guy who will vaccuum up fly balls and hold runners trying to advance to 3rd on a fly ball. My God - how many runners took 2nd base on Bernie's weak arm last year on balls that were clearly singles? Damon will do nothing to prevent that.
We need a good defensive center fielder. Such a guy will make our pitchers better, shorten innings, lengthen outings, and reduce pitch counts. All good things.
We had the lead in every game in the Angels series last year. Every game. You cannot blame our loss on offense, or by not having a "true leadoff hitter" (as if Jeter was Womackian at hitting).
We need a guy who catches fly balls and throws out runners. If he gets on base, great. If not, let him hit ninth. We'll still score runs.
Leave the "idiot" alone.
Now, I was really happy to read this line in today's Post:
Cashman is talking to the Phillies about Jason Michaels and the Phillies are no longer demanding Wang.
To be honest, it gave me a hard-on. Then I go and look at Michaels' numbers again:
Year AB R H HR RBI BA OBP SLG
2005 289 54 88 4 31 0.3045 0.3988 0.4152
2004 299 44 82 10 40 0.2742 0.3642 0.4147
2003 109 20 36 5 17 0.3303 0.416 0.5688
2002 105 16 28 2 11 0.2667 0.3471 0.4762
I fall in love with his OBP and I practically giz all over myself. F- Damon, Get Michaels.
BTW, this website should allow you to show stats exactly like you pasted them in. The columns don't align like I thought they should.
Corey Patterson sucks.
Matthews seems like a decent one year kinda guy, but I mean, can you imagine the kind of star power Willis would have in the Bronx? THe kid is infectious...
There are only three real differences between them:
1 - Lugo is a much better fielder.
2 - Lugo steals bases.
3 - Lugo is much cheaper.
I don't understand this deal. Why doesn't Atlanta just trade for and keep Lugo. Their scouting on Rentawreck must be screwy.
When others encounter that problem, when analyzing baseball that is, it is my understanding that many therapists recommend they think about sex while doing their analysis. Hope it all works out for you. Thanks for sharing, I guess. Good luck.
I have no idea why ATL would want Rent over Lugo. And Lugo won't (be allowed to) steal bases in Boston anyways, so that shouldn't even be part of his evaluation.
Irregardless (Bronx banter!), this would be a good trade for the Sox.
If not Wang, who else do they want? As with any deal, if its reasonable, then do it.
I think a strong case could be made for either of them as a Yankee CF. But if Torre is serious about moving towards a 1980s Whitey Herzog style baseball, I guess Figgins would be the man.
Lugo has been basically the same player since 2000 and has played in 800 games in those six years. Only in 2002 did he play less than 140 games.
While that may be four years less than Renteria, it is certainly more than enough time for him to have established his playing level.
If Renteria has a the reputation for being a more solid player, it is only because he has played for better teams, the Marlins in their 1997 championship season and the Cardinals and Red Sox for the last seven years.
Their career are mirror images, with the exception of Renteria's career year in 2003.
also, good point about Lugo and Renteria being similar players. I was merely pointing out that Edgar's done it for longer and a greater number of at bats per season. But at this point Lugo's pretty well established.
someone at 1b
And the Yanks:
Both lineups appear to be about the same: relatively old, powerful, and slow. The speed is pretty much a draw, neither team runs all that much. The Sox will most likely put up better overall #s because of playing Fenway, just look at those splits these past years, but I would call the lineups a push I suppose. HOWEVER, if the Sox do trade Manny, which I don't see happening, I can't fathom them finding anyone who can protect Ortiz the way Manny can. I just can't imagine people fearing Varitek, Lowell, or whoever they trade for as much as they do Manny, and that could hugely impact that lineup. If you don't have to pitch to Ortiz, why bother?
The big winner at the winter meeting appears to be the Sox. Gammons is reporting that there is absolutely no market for Manny. There is no way they deal him without hurting the team. They tried, they failed. Sell the condo, Manny; move to Sudbury. Buy the Babe's old house.
BTW, are people on this blog aware that Manny's condo is readily viewable online and can be had for a mere 6.9 M?
When are these meetings over? All these rumors are making me dizzy.
As for the Loretta/Mirabelli rumors, here in SD, Alderson is saying that the deal is not a sure thing, and they have gone ahead and resigned Trevor...
I'm just sayin'.
Has anyone heard if the Yankees offered arbitration to Bernie or not?
It was in yesterday's Newsday. Here's the link. About half way through the story. King expands on it a little in today's Post. Willis is a lot of fun I keep expecting him to go Mark Fydrich but he keeps on winning. I don't know, he just scares me a little.
How are the Sox big winners? Easy.
1. They turn a back up catcher into a solid second baseman. Loretta is a +20 RAA over the last three years. He's a career .300 hitter, .365 obp. He never strikes out. Perfect number two hitter.
2. They made an honest effort to trade a franchise player who wanted to be traded. They couldn't pull it off. Manny most likely returns to Fenway.
3. Looks now like they'll be able to dump Rentaria for a super prospect.
They didn't set out to do everything they wanted to do: trade Wells and Clement, acquire Lugo, but they're an awful lot closer to where they want to be then they were Monday.
WHAT'S UP WITH BERNIE????
With that said, having never pitched in the AL, I wouldn't give up the ENTIRE farm for Dontrelle.
WasWatching had a good post recently on the Yankees' need for another bat:
In what way is this a better option than Crosby? And with Bubba, NY wouldn't have to give anything up.
The point is, why should we even have a Sierra-type on this team? Sierra-types saddle a team with dead roster space that could otherwise be used for a more versatile player.
Rich is right. The moment a Sheff goes down, Bubba slides over to RF and enter Bernie in center. I know a lot of guys are probably saying, "You could do worse than Bernie subbing in CF," but, other than inserting Womack, how?
Not trying to start any fights or anything, I just am looking for some perspective from the NYY side: How highly do you value Eric Duncan in relation to Jason Michaels? In other words, what other parts would have to be added to a deal built around those two to get something done that helps both teams?
Perhaps along the lines of: Jason Michaels, David Bell, and Gavin Floyd for Duncan and Wang? Would you guys think this is fair?
Again, not trying to start anything, just looking to work out a deal that helps fix holes for both of our teams. Thanks!
Jason Michaels is a platoon player; Eric Duncan will be likely be a star. I wouldn't trade him for Abreu, let alone Michaels.
btw, Why do the Yankees need David Bell? That's right, they don't, and he isn't any good.
Floyd has never fufilled his potential; Wang is nearly untouchable.
Some track record there. How many of these "future stars" have even made an All-Star team since leaving the NYY Hype Machine?
Have it your way guys...
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