Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
No Margin For Error
2005-10-05 22:27
by Cliff Corcoran
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Chien-Ming Wang and John Lackey both brought their A-game to Angel Stadium last night, but Game Two of the ALDS wasn't decided by pitching, it was decided by defense, third-base defense especially. The Angels played errorless ball, lead by several outstanding plays by Chone Figgins at third and Darin Erstad at first. The Yankees turned a number of excellent plays of their own, but also committed three errors, two of which, including a crucial one by Alex Rodriguez, led directly to four of the five Angels runs. The result was a 5-3 Angel victory to even the series at one game apiece.


Things looked good for the Yankees early on. For the second straight night, the Yankees drew first blood on a hit by Robinson Cano, this time picking up a run on back-to-back doubles by Hideki Matsui and Cano in the second. Meanwhile, his first time through the Angel order, Chien-Ming Wang got all nine batters to hit a ground ball, only two of which found a hole and rolled through the infield for singles. After the second single, off the bat of ninth-place hitter Adam Kennedy to lead off the bottom of the third, Mike Scioscia put on a hit and run on a 1-0 count to Chone Figgins. Despite hitting his spots low in the zone through the first few innings, Wang's pitch sailed high, making it a perfect pitch for Posada to catch and throw to second. Figgins helplessly swung through the pitch and Posada nailed Kennedy at second. Wang then struck out Figgins and got Orlando Cabrera to fly out to right.

The Yankees picked up another run in the top of the fifth when Alex Rodriguez led off with a walk and moved to second on a Jason Giambi double to right center. Curiously, the Angels' middle infielders lined up to receive the throw home, leaving second base uncovered. Had one of them stayed on the bag, they just might have been able to throw Giambi out stretching, which would have made Gary Sheffield's groundout, which plated Rodriguez, the final out of the inning (though one could also speculate that Rodriguez might have been able to dash home had the throw gone to second, though it would have taken some especially savvy baserunning for that to have happened).

Giambi was forced to hold up on Sheffield's grounder, a bouncer in on the grass to third on which Rodriguez broke for home immediately, but he was able to move to third on Lackey's very next pitch, which bounced in the dirt and got behind Bengie Molina. Hideki Matsui then laced Lackey's next pitch to the right of Chone Figgins at third only to have Figgins make a tremendous diving stop and fire to first for the third out, robbing Matsui of an RBI. After the game, both Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez called Figgins' play the turning point in the game.

Indeed, the first crack in Wang's armor appeared following that play in the bottom of the fifth when the Yankee starter fell behind lead-off hitter Juan Rivera 3-1, Wang's first three-ball count of the night. Rivera swung and missed to run the count full, then lifted a home run to dead center to cut the Yankee lead in half.

The real turning point in the game, however, came the next inning when Orlando Cabrera led off the bottom of the sixth with an easy hopper to third base. Alex Rodriguez charged the ball and lifted his hands to catch it head high coming down from a hop, but he closed his glove too early and the ball trickled toward third base and into foul territory putting the tying run on base. Rodriguez seemed so surprised that he had botched the play that he reacted slowly to the ball rolling away and almost allowed Cabrera to take second.

Seemingly unfazed, Wang got Garret Anderson to pop out to Jeter in shallow left and Vlad Guerrero to ground out on another bouncer to Rodriguez, the latter of which moved Cabrera to second with two outs. Wang then got strike one on Bengie Molina, but fell behind 2-1, with Posada making an excellent scoop on ball one in the dirt. During Guerrero's at-bat, Posada kept motioning for a pitch low and away only to have the first pitch almost hit Guerrero in the ear and the next two stay low but tail in and over the plate. Wang's fourth pitch to Molina also missed Posada's target, floating up and in, where the Angel catcher was able to inside out it to right center, sending Cabrera home to tie the game.

Though the logic is somewhat backwards, you have to give Mike Scioscia credit for finally figuring out that Darin Erstad, who grounded out to end the sixth, shouldn't be hitting ahead of Moilna, a major line-up flaw that he corrected last night. Scioscia also gets credit for going to his bullpen early in this game. With his team down 2-1, John Lackey surrendered a one-out double to Bernie Williams in the top of the sixth that by all rights should have been an out, only Steve Finley completely misplayed it, allowing it to go well over his head. Bernie moved to third when Erstad smothered a would-be double down the line by Posada, turning it into a groundout. Lackey then got ahead of Tino Martinez 0-2 only to walk him on four straight balls. With runners at the corners, the top of the Yankee order due up, and his starter up to 98 pitches, Scioscia didn't hesitate to go to his pen, bringing in Scot Shields who got Derek Jeter to ground out to end the inning.

Scioscia then brought on Kelvim Escobar for the seventh. Escobar walked Alex Rodriguez, who was leading off following his error in the bottom of the sixth, but erased him when Rodriguez took off for second with a 1-2 count on Jason Giambi. Again, credit Scioscia who had Escobar pitching out on that delivery, as well as Molina, who threw a strike that beat Rodriguez by ten feet. Escobar then struck out Giambi on his way to retiring five straight Yankees.

Meanwhile, the Angels broke through in the bottom of the seventh. Juan Rivera lead off with yet another bouncer to shortstop, but this one bounced so high, Derek Jeter had to wait under the ball as if it was a pop up and was thus unable to throw out Rivera, despite Rivera's stumbling on his way to first. With Jeff DaVanon in to run for Rivera (now 4 for 6 against his old team in this series), Scioscia had Steve Finley bunt. Finley laid down a beauty that died in front of the plate. Wang charged, but had to rush his throw and wound up pulling Robinson Cano off first. With runners on first and second and still no outs, Scioscia again sacrificed. Adam Kennedy's bunt took a high hop of its own, but Wang was able to get the out at first. He then got Chone Figgins to fly out to shallow center for the second out, holding DaVanon at third. Just one out away from getting out of the inning, Wang left his first pitch to Orlando Cabrera up in the zone and Cabrera laced it into center to plate both runners and give the Angels a 4-2 lead.

With Wang clearly losing his effectiveness, Joe Torre then brought in Al Leiter to face the left-handed Garret Anderson, who flew out to end the inning. Given Leiter's spectacular history against Vlad Guerrero (he's held Vlad to a .173 GPA over 43 at-bats), Torre left Leiter in to face the Angels' big bopper leading off the eighth. Again, Leiter did his job, getting Guerrero to fly out to left on two pitches. Then Torre got greedy, leaving Al in to face Bengie Molina in the hope that he could then retire the lefty Erstad to complete the inning. Leiter got ahead of the Angel catcher 0-2, but then evened the count at 2-2 at which point Molina golfed a breaking pitch into the first row of seats in left to make it 5-2 Angels with Francisco Rodriguez ready to pitch the ninth.

Rodriguez started the ninth inning with a pitch to Jorge Posada that was low and inside in the dirt. His next pitch was a fastball right down the middle and Jorge planted it deep in the bleachers in right center. But that was all the Yankees would get. Tino Martinez struck out and Jeter and Rodriguez both grounded out, ending the Yankees hopes. The final pitch of the game was a full-count curveball from Rodriguez that Alex hit sharply to Figgins at third, who made a nice backhand and a strong throw to first. As well it should have been.


Bengie Molina 2 for 4 with the game-tying single and a solo homer. He also gunned out Rodriguez in the seventh (though he was aided by a pitch out). Molina has two of the four homers hit in this series.

Juan Rivera 2 for 3 with a solo homer which accounted for the first Angel run, and an infield single which turned into the go-ahead run in the seventh. He's now 4 for 6 in the series.

Orlando Cabrera You can't really credit him for scoring the tying run because it was the result of Rodriguez's error and he should have been out, but you can credit him with the game-winning hit.

Chone Figgins He's 0 for 8 and has yet to reach base in the seires despite leading off both games, but his play at third last night could have been the difference in the game.

Kelvim Escobar If we're being honest, John Lackey was losing to Chien-Ming Wang when he was pulled with runners on the corners. He also walked five men in 5 2/3 innings. Escobar, meanwhile, shut the door on the Yanks, retiring five of the six batters he faced and picking up the win.

Yankee Heroes

Jorge Posada 2 for 3 with a walk and a homer off Francisco Rodriguez in the ninth, he also threw out Adam Kennedy on a steal attempt.

Hideki Matsui It's not his fault that Figgins gloved that would-be double. He scored the first run of the game following a double Figgins didn't catch.

Robinson Cano He made an error on an easy play early in the game, but it didn't cost his team as he made a clean play on the very next ball to end that inning. His double was also the only RBI hit of the night for the Yanks other than Posada's home run.

Yankee Goats

Alex Rodriguez This is a tough call. He walked three times in five trips, stole a base, and turned at least one very nice play in the field. But he's also hitless on the series, got thrown out stealing on a 1-2 count with the score tied in the seventh, and made a crucial error in the sixth.

Chien-Ming Wang Another tough call. Wang allowed just one earned run on six hits and no walks in 6 2/3 IP, but he also made an error that was even more costly than Rodriguez's (even if the play was far more difficult), and made bad pitches to Molina and Cabrera that resulted in the game-tying and game-winning hits.

Angels Goats

Garret Anderson 0 for 4 last night and 0 for 8 on the series. He has yet to reach base.


The Yankees travel home for the first time since September 25 today. Tomorrow, they send Randy Johnson to the mound to break the tie against Paul Byrd.

2005-10-06 04:05:29
1.   Shaun P
Sigh. I was somewhat impressed with the Yanks when I saw Lackey's line - 5 walks! - but that changed when I saw it resulted in only 2 runs. Hopefully the offense wakes up in the Stadium.

Not that the Angels' 5th run mattered too much, but I hope Torre has learned his lesson about letting Leiter pitch to righties. Let's be honest - Erstad is a pretty bad hitter, regardless of who he's facing (.232/.298/.316 vs LHP, .291/.337/.396 vs RHP - driven mostly by a huge number of doubles). Do the Yanks really need to rely on a LOOGY to get him out? This isn't the Ortiz we're talking about.

2005-10-06 04:58:47
2.   rbj
Grumble grumble grumble. I go to bed with the Yanks up 2-0 and Wang pitching well. Wake up to a 5-3 loss. Grrr.

Bright spot that I see is the Angels have faced Moose and Wang, and now have to face Unit. These are three very different types of pitchers, their hitters should be off. Get angry Unit, Chacon wraps it up Saturday at the Stadium.

2005-10-06 05:06:04
3.   Alex Belth
I watched the entire Red Sox/White Sox game and as pleased as I was with the final outcome I have to admit to feeling slightly nauteous when Graffinio booted that ball--which is how I felt later when Rodriguez and Wang made key errors in the late game. I hate to see fielding mistakes cost anyone a game. I felt for Red Sox fans after Boomer gave up that three-run dinger. And any Yankee fan who took that moment to gloat too much got a taste of their own medicine several hours later.

Wang gave the Yankees a good outing and the gloves (including his own) failed him, as did the offense. Still, as regrettable as last night's loss was for the Yankees, I'm choosing not to dwell on the negatives this morning. Alex Rodriguez will have a chance to redeem himself with a couple of big offensive (and defensive) games at home in New York, and hopefully, with P. Byrd and J. Washburn pitching, he'll have some pitches to hit (though as Steve Lombardi suggests this morning, the Angels might just pitch around Rodrgiuez which puts the onus on Sheffield to deliver).

Randy Johnson has pitched well of late and it's hard not to feel good about the kind of performance he could deliver come Friday. The Yanks have lost plenty of winable games like Game Two this season, so let's move forward and hope they rebound in front of the home crowd in the Bronx this weekened (and let's also hope that Figgins continues to be kept off the bases).

As for Boston, well, if recent history tells us anything, they've got the White Sox right where they want them, right? Schilling and Wakefield this weekend. How about Game Five back in Chicago on Sunday?

2005-10-06 05:16:36
4.   Simone
The Yankees got their split and with RJ pitching on Friday, I feel good about the Yankees' chances in this series.

I still think that the Red Sox pull it out against the White Sox, but I won't be disappointed if I am wrong.

2005-10-06 05:49:22
5.   Alex Belth
Check out my boy Hank's write up of the game over at Broken Cowboy:
2005-10-06 05:56:45
6.   Dimelo
Alex, As much as I hate the Sawx, there are some players that don't rub me the wrong way and Graffanino is one of them. I wasn't doing back flips either when he made that error. I actually felt bad for the guy, too. If only my (extremely rare) show of sensitivity for Sawx fans would have translated to good karma and led to a Yankee victory, then it all would have been worthwhile.

My opinions on the game, it just felt like one of those games that the Yankees would lose. I'm usually not that pessimistic, but the Figgins play sure was tough. The Yanks need to score more runs, they need to come out and get a big lead early on the Halos. RJ will pitch well tomorrow, but what I'm hoping for is that there's no rain in city.

2005-10-06 06:09:49
7.   Kevin
Cliff, it's a "tough call" that Alex was a goat last night? I would say that's one of the easiest calls of the night.

Listen, I know he came through big for us a few times during the regular season, but I still don't feel entirely comfortable with A-Rod as a Yankee. I know this is old hat at this point, but I just don't think A-Rod has "earned his pinstripes," so to speak. I know Boston fans will laugh when they read this, but he stunk in last year's postseason, and he stinks so far in this year's postseason. We didn't get him to drive in 10 RBIs in a game in April and May... we got him to contribute in October, and so far, he's done jack squat.

Plus, why are his lips ALWAYS blue in the postseason?

Also, on the high chopper bunt (from Finley? I don't remember), why the heck was Cano's LEFT foot on first base. As a righty, shouldn't he have been stretching out from first base with his RIGHT foot on the bag, and his left arm outstretched? I know it probably wouldn't have made much difference, but I was wondering if there was a reason he didn't play first base the way a regular first baseman would have.

2005-10-06 06:10:20
8.   Dan M
Graffanino is a Long Island guy, so I too find it hard to hate the guy (although I had no problem hating the Long Island-born Billy Koch). I felt terrible for him, but didn't give a hoot that Wells gave up the homer. F that guy. On air, Sutcliffe basically gave Wells a pass for missing Game 5 of the 2003 WS. Any one else catch that and think he was clueless?
2005-10-06 06:11:59
9.   jdb
Somewhat off topic but does anyone else find the way Jon Miller says "Cano" to be extrememly annoying? It makes me pine for games on FOX called by Buck and McCarver. I'd mute it and just put the radio on, but the delay seems to ruin the surprise.
2005-10-06 06:18:09
10.   domvjr
Not to dwell on last nights game, that I stayed up way past my bed time to watch, but the weather for this weekend looks to be pretty crappy. Any idea, what consequences a couple of rainouts would cause. The obvious would be that we would face Colon again, if rain forces cancellation of a couple of games.
2005-10-06 06:18:30
11.   Dimelo
Dan M., I agree that Wells is a fat bastard and him giving up that homerun did cause me to do backflips. I heard Sutcliffe's rant, too. Wells cost us that World Series. Weaver giving up the homerun didn't bother me as much as Wells quiting on the Yanks and not disclosing his condition to Torre and Mel. I was at the game when he came to play against the Yanks when he was with the Padres and I think I was one of the few that was booing his ass. F- Krispy Kreme Wells.

Kevin, ARod batted .421 vs. the Twins and .258 vs the Sawx last year. I'm tired of hearing he hasn't earned his pinstripes. I was one of his biggest critics, but the guy has been nothing but a stand-up team guy with the Yankees. He'll bat wherever Torre puts him, he switched positions, the attention he brings to himself is directly related to his huge contract. Though, I do have the same question about his lips.

2005-10-06 06:22:34
12.   Yanks in NH
I'd rather get pounded than to lose a game that way. That being said, you have to credit the Angels pitchers for essentially shutting down our offense, or blame our offense. A-Rod is walking alot but his bat and Jeter's were noticeably absent last night! Our weakness w/ RISP was glaring last night and you don't win games doing that. Still, with the Unit on tomorrow night, I feel good, but I'd feel a whole lote better up 2-0!
2005-10-06 06:26:28
13.   Alex Belth
Yeah Kevin, c'mon dude. You don't recall last year's ALDS at all? Rodriguez made a costly error last night but to suggest that he's some kind of Mr. May is patently unfair.
2005-10-06 06:27:12
14.   Kevin
I know A-Rod's a great guy and all... I just don't feel comfortable with him yet.

After Cano made the gaffe at second last night, ESPN showed a close-up of Jeter getting into his stance for the next pitch, and the camera caught him shooting a glance over to Cano and giving him a quick wink. I thought that was pretty awesome.

2005-10-06 06:28:35
15.   Yanks in NH
Take a look at what A-Rod did last year against the Twins in the Division Series and then tell me that A-Rod doesn't contribute in the postseason! So far, his bat has been pretty quiet but he has walked quite a bit. Watch for him to light it up back in the Bronx.
2005-10-06 06:42:11
16.   Dimelo
ARod hasn't had anything good to hit in this series - he's taking what they are giving him, walks.
I thought Buck Martinez had a great comment about ARod when the Yanks were playing the O's last week. He basically said that most of the criticism and hatred for ARod is due to the fact that he has this huge contract and makes everything looks so easy. He works hard and does everything humanly possible to do the right thing. He runs the bases well (despite the getting caught stealing last night), he plays defense, hits for power, has a great average and obp. I think we, myself included, all have this perceived notion that if ARod is making 25 million a year then he has to hit .600 to justify the contract.
2005-10-06 06:46:57
17.   Max
I expected to feel worse after only 4 hours of sleep following a deflating loss. But this is really a classic glass half-full/half-empty situation.

We've outplayed them for the majority of the innings in this series, shut down Figgins and Vlad, and exposed their offense as weak as advertised. Unfortunately, outside of the first inning of the series, we're not generating much offense either, even though I liked the way we worked Lackey.

I though the 7th and 8th innings last night were a regression...shaky defense, mental breakdowns, quick and impatient at-bats.

I feel good about RJ pitching, but the Angels have to feel good themselves if we've only gotten a couple of runs for RJ by the 6th or 7th inning on Friday. Got to get a little more efficient with men on base, guys.

2005-10-06 06:49:53
18.   its430
Heartbreaking game. Thanks for building us up guys, only to break us down.

I noticed the Jeter/Cano look as well, followed by Cano doing a great "Jeter Face" during the stretch.

The lack of RISP production was troubling, though not unexpected. I'm getting the feeling RJ will need a good 3-4 run cushion on Friday night so the Yanks better get their heads out of their asses.

2005-10-06 08:05:44
19.   tocho
Why isn't Sheff a goat, he came up with runners in scoring postition twice with 1 out and could only deliver that weak grounder to 3rd.

I also think that the jet lag may have had something to do with the errors.

It was certainly a winnable game and Lackey did not look so hot at all, but some great defensive plays by Chone and Ernstad saved 2 runs from the Yanks.

I was also very pleased with Wang, he came up HUGE in his firts PS start, I give all the credit to Torre for the confidence in him and for putting Chacon now in place for the possible clincher/season-saving game. It worked out beautifully. Its going to be a long 2 days.

2005-10-06 08:17:17
20.   ChuckM
UGH. Talk about getting nickel and dimed to death. I thought Soscia turned into Rizzuto w/all those bunts. Yanks gotta start doing more w/men on base-it doesn't always have to be a ringing double into the corner or a monster 3-run jack. And I don't wanna hear about being "happy" tied 1-1 heading back home. You win the first one away, you BETTER be thinking about going for the kill, especially after last year. This is the playoffs-not 4th of July weekend.
2005-10-06 08:27:21
21.   Murray
Losses like Game 2 are frustrating because sloppiness afield and on the bases magnifies the sense that opportunities were squandered. Bad plate judgment, hard liners hit right at infielders and mistake pitches don't feel as bad to me. The Angels certainly can catch the ball, but: (1) their starting pitching is unimpressive; and (2) their lineup is so bad that they might as well let the pitcher bat. Paul Byrd is the kind of pitcher the Yankees should be able to flatten into a pancake. So I'm not worried yet.

In fact, the biggest worry is that the weather in NY could be terrible this weekend.

2005-10-06 08:38:03
22.   debris
On the rain effect as mentioned above.

Re: Colon. He'd be on his full rest without a rainout and would pitch the fifth game, should there be one, in any case.

Re: Red Sox. Should they survive to a fifth game, they'd be the big beneficiaries of a rainout as Boomer would then be available on four days rest. Currently, they are considering either Boomer on three or Arroyo, with Clement a last option. Should they survive and have a rainout, they'd certainly use Boomer.

At this point, with a game on the line, I'd rather pitch to A-Rod than to Cano. A-Rod, as usual, looks tense and uptight in October. Cano looks relaxed and has uncanny bat control for a kid his age. His ability to hit good pitches on a line to the opposite field is frightening; there doesn't appear to be a way to pitch to him.

2005-10-06 08:43:05
23.   JCP22
Sheffield coming out of his shoes swinging so hard at first pitch strikes with guys in scoring position, fouled off two fat pitches. Don't need a HR there, need a single to plate two.

Not a good sign that Wang gave them two sharp games in a row and they managed to lose them both as he tired. Anyone thought once he got by Figgins that it might have been good to bring in Flash to face Cabrera there, give you a chance at a K? Could have left him in for seventh and then two innings by Rivera, Small in tenth and on if still tied. You have the team on the edge of disaster, would have liked to use our best weapons out of pen with day off today.

Kudos to Angels for flashing some mighty leather though and getting some clutch two out hits.

2005-10-06 08:48:07
24.   Schteeve
Sheff looks a bit tired at the plate. Maybe the off-day will rejuvenate him.
2005-10-06 08:51:18
25.   Schteeve
I think the coolest move of the game was Scoscia bringing Shields in "early." Joe shoulda done the same thing.
2005-10-06 09:07:49
26.   Knuckles
Frustrating evening, esp since I stayed up and then had to sit thru a 2 hours bkft meeting this morning...

Anyone else think it's inexcusable for Joe to try and sneak Leiter thru an entire inning? He doesn't give up that jack to a righty, and things look a lot different going into the last couple innings...

I've cmplained often about how the Yanks seem to lose more often than not on getaway days, and how it bugs me because I stew on the loss for more time than necessary. Just looked at their results for the year, and thei record on days when they don't play the next day was 11-6, not including last night. So I guess those 6 losses must have really galled me, while the 11 wins enabled my mind to take a break from the Yanks for a day or so.

2005-10-06 09:14:07
27.   BxSparksNYC
Dimelo - I think Buck's sentiments are correct, however we have been extremely spoiled in the kind of performance we are able to enjoy as Yankees fans. I'm referring to the expectation from many a fans (and the media too) that what you do during the season is good for most, but what defines "Yankees" is the ability to perform under pressure and in the clutch, both of which are are by products toward winning championships. Of course we have moments as Yankee fans that define our pedigree, Reggie's three, Larson's perfect game etc. Even now we constantly compare everyone to Brosius, Tino of yesteryear, Paulie etc. Why? Cause these guy did it under pressure, in the clutch toward winning championships. No one cares about MVP really. As Yankees fans, I believe all we really care about it being champions. Quickly back to your point - If making 252 million makes expecting clutch performance unrealistic, then Alex will continue to feel the heat in NY. I think if he batted. .233 and hit the WS game winning hit in the bottom of the ninth, not one NY'er would have a problem.
2005-10-06 09:29:40
28.   Bob B
I agree with way Wang should have been out there is the 7th with a RISP and a day off on Thursday. That was a winable game last night.
2005-10-06 09:32:19
29.   uburoisc
The pitch Molina hit was at his shoes, not much you can do about that one. It was a fine piece of hitting from the Halos best clutch hitter. I kept waiting for the Yanks to show up with the bats and nothing happened. The errors were ugly, while the Halos showed why defense is a must come playoff time; they made some fantastic plays. Aside from Jeter, who seems golden in the clutch, I don't have the same confidence in our infield. Alex is not getting the pitches and they are walking him, it is the responsibility of Shef and Giambi to hit the dinger and make them pay for it.
2005-10-06 09:33:03
30.   lsf
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2005-10-06 10:00:43
31.   Oscar Azocar
Wang pitched a great game, but was unfortunate. I'm sort of surprised that he really starts feeling fatigued after 70-80 pitches. I wonder how much of that is b/c he is a low pitch count guy in general, so he's not used to going 100 pitches, and how much of it is b/c of his shoulder condition.
2005-10-06 10:12:00
32.   tz1
Errors lost it for us, no doubt about that. Wang pitched as good of a game you can ask for from a rookie.

The loss is OK. We are going back to Yankee Stadium, the Big Unit is gonna shut down the Angels, and our bats are gonna light the scoreboard up. A-Rod will redeem himself, he's the best player in the MLB, and earned his pinstripes a loooong time ago.

2005-10-06 10:33:58
33.   Kevin
lsf (30): I hope you give proper credit to Bronx Banter. Alex and Cliff deserve it.
2005-10-06 12:23:30
34.   Yanks in NH
Hey Debris,

Go ahead and pitch to A-Rod instead of Cano. Cano has come up big with two key clutch hits, but nothing else, while if you're not careful with A-Rod you'll pay dearly!

I believe the reason why everyone is not satisfied with A-Rod is because he makes it look so effortless when he does it that it actually looks less spectacular than it was. I mean the guy looks like he's harmlessly swatting at a ball and it goes 500 feet!!! Awesome - I'm telling my kids to pay attention because you're probably seeing one of the greatest players ever!

2005-10-06 14:10:38
35.   randym77
I feel pretty good about where we are. The Angels didn't win, the Yankees lost. Frustrating, but it bodes well for the future. We started with our two weaker pitchers, IMO. And we succeeded in shutting down Guerrero and Figgins. Now we go home, where the Big Unit and Shawn Chacon await. I don't think the Angels can do anything against us. As long as we don't give it away, we should win.

I was not turning backflips when the Bosox lost. I'd rather face them again than the White Sox. Remember how grueling the Chicago series was? We couldn't hit anything off them, just like the Red Sox can't now. I don't want to see them again. I'll take my chances with David Wells and Curt Schilling again, please.

A-Rod had a bad night, but I don't think it hurt him much in the MVP chase. Maybe if Ortiz were killing the White Sox...but he ain't.

2005-10-06 14:35:08
36.   Simone
The NY media crucified A-Rod for his error. They was waaaaaaay over the top. They obviously desperately wanted to pin the blame for the loss on someone.
2005-10-06 15:34:49
37.   randym77
The national media wasn't too kind, either. I think every paper I saw showed a big photo of A-Rod missing that catch. :-P
2005-10-06 17:18:24
38.   Simone
I just saw that horrible grammatical error in my last comment. Why can't we edit these things aftewards? Previewing is not enough. Of course, I meant to say "They were ..."

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