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2005-09-07 14:21
by Alex Belth

Jaret Wright returns to the mound tonight. It should be interesting to see what kind of stuff he's got against an aggresive Tampa Bay line up. If this gets ugly it could get ugly if you know what I mean? Couldn't you see Gomes charging Wright? Although I don't have much of a vibe about the game I have to think the Yanks are going to bomb those suckers.

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2005-09-07 14:43:50
1.   JohnnyC
They'll win 4 of the next 5 games on this home stand. As angry as I am over their erratic play and the guy in the manager's chair, this is the kind of season it's been. It'll probably go down to the last weekend (I'll need a ventilator nearby). And more likely than not, if they make the playoffs, they'll exit early and quietly.
2005-09-07 15:37:05
2.   BklynBomber
I'm at a complete loss for words over this team's inability to get up for the Rays. Why not start DePaula tonight and sit all the vets? Maybe it takes a Triple A squad to beat a Triple A squad.

If we finish this stand 2-3, it's almost out of our control. The run has to start tonight. And I mean a run. Let' go, Yanks!

2005-09-07 15:54:12
3.   tocho
The DAMN A's just came back for FIVE runs in the 9th. to win the game. They have held their serve no its time for the Yanks to do their thing.

Let's go Yan-kees!!!!

2005-09-07 16:06:15
4.   JVarghese81
Agggh = stuck in the office building for the second night in a row...gotta watch the game in gamecast...have I mentioned how handy this board has become?

In my mind, I see the Yanks winning the next two games (and the Sox losing both) though I'm not counting on a strong performance from Wang...(wait, that sounds a bit iffy but you get the jist). I think it should get him a start or two to get back into his groove.

P.s. When the hell will Matsui break out of this slump? I know Sheff is hurt and that explains his falloff...but Hideki has been hit or miss for a while now (though he is still a very dangerous hitter with RISP). I wonder what's up.

2005-09-07 16:11:40
5.   randym77
This isn't looking good already.
2005-09-07 16:12:20
6.   BklynBomber
Get the feeling we're gonna need about 13 runs tonight?
2005-09-07 16:13:36
7.   randym77
Better make it 20.
2005-09-07 16:14:55
8.   BklynBomber
I think you're right... and there goes Sheff.
2005-09-07 16:15:46
9.   JVarghese81
Hamstring or knee apparently...great. Fking great.
2005-09-07 16:16:38
10.   randym77
If he hadn't hurt his leg, he might have caught that ball.

Take him out!

2005-09-07 16:17:04
11.   BklynBomber
What a season...
2005-09-07 16:17:13
12.   JVarghese81
How bad is this looking on TV?
2005-09-07 16:18:56
13.   BklynBomber
Sheff was trying to stretch it out for a few minutes, looked like he was trying to stay in. Hopefully it's not that bad. As Kaat said, Yanks didn't even want to chance it...
2005-09-07 16:19:02
14.   randym77
It doesn't look too bad. He walked off, with a slight limp. Hopefully, it's just a cramp. But he obviously can't play the outfield tonight. Better to rest him, and bring in someone who can at least pretend to run.
2005-09-07 16:19:47
15.   tocho
4-0, Sheff out, Wright not so good, D-Rays. Should I watch the game and waste a perfectly nice afternoon? or should I just change the channel, read a book, or take a walk and just look for the result tonight or tomorrow morning? Any suggestions?
2005-09-07 16:19:49
16.   BklynBomber
Shit! Put Skippy in right!
2005-09-07 16:21:46
17.   watziznehm2
Holy shit... this is like Leiter all over again.
2005-09-07 16:22:17
18.   BklynBomber
tocho, far too early to make that call. Give it until the bottom of the first and let's see if we swing at first/bad pitches, screw up on the basepaths or just go meekly...
2005-09-07 16:23:44
19.   marc
it's still early. Let's see if TB able to give the Yanks a zero in the bottom and validate those runs.
2005-09-07 16:26:39
20.   tocho
OK, I'll stick around for the bottom of the first, if they score a run I'll stay and further damage my liver...
2005-09-07 16:27:43
21.   BklynBomber
... same game plan here ;-)
2005-09-07 16:27:56
22.   watziznehm2
Great.. swinging at the first ball..nice start....
2005-09-07 16:29:37
23.   BklynBomber
6 pitches!!!!!!!!!
2005-09-07 16:30:18
24.   watziznehm2
This is horrible!!!!
2005-09-07 16:31:11
25.   randym77
What is it with this swinging at the first pitch business? Didn't the Yankees used to be known for their patience at the plate?
2005-09-07 16:33:49
26.   Bill
Just stick a fork in this $200M disgrace. I'm switching to the Braves-Mets game.
2005-09-07 16:34:36
27.   tocho
OK, I'll stay for the bottom of the 2nd... I'm an idiot...
2005-09-07 16:35:31
28.   Mike Z
Didn't the D-Rays do this against the Sox like 3 times last week? And didn't they lose every time?

If the Yankees can't beat these guys with an early lead, maybe they have to be behind to win.

2005-09-07 16:35:36
29.   marc
well, Jeter did hit the ball hard. Also Wright probably so shell shocked from the 1st that it should help him not worry about getting hit by the ball. And now a nice play by Cano. I'm listening to Sterling because ESPN is showing the Boston game. Another quick out. And another before I can even type. Nice 1-2-3. The Yankees will win tonight! I'm absolutely sure, I think
2005-09-07 16:36:12
30.   randym77
I'm sticking with it. They looked better this inning.

Humans spring eternal on Hope's breast, or something like that..

2005-09-07 16:36:41
31.   dtrain
haha, tocho...i'm right there with you. supposed to go to the gym but i keep hanging around waiting to see if the yanks get something going....
2005-09-07 16:36:45
32.   rbj
You know, it'll be nice not having to stay up late this October. Guess I'll pull for the Cardinals, Pujols deserves a ring.
2005-09-07 16:41:13
33.   marc
If we keep this up at east the msisery won't last that long
2005-09-07 16:41:33
34.   JVarghese81
SCREW THAT!

I concede NOTHING until we are mathematically eliminated from the postseason. I know it's been one hell of a rollercoaster season but that's the main reason you gotta keep hope alive for these guys. You just need a couple guys to get hot...easier said than done, I'm sure...but hell, let's not bury the Yanks before they're truly dead.

This PSA has been brought to you by the 1996 Yankees.

2005-09-07 16:41:33
35.   rilkefan
LAA up 3-0...
2005-09-07 16:44:18
36.   rbj
I figure they'll do better if I'm pessimistic.
2005-09-07 16:45:53
37.   JVarghese81
I'm the opposite...though I'm pretty pessimistic when it comes to watching the Knicks so I guess it evens out.
2005-09-07 16:53:06
38.   marc
OK DP to end the inning. Game on. How about at least one run guys?
2005-09-07 17:00:04
39.   tocho
I didn't realize that Cy Young was pitching for the D-Rays, it thought it was just a mediocre pitcher with a 5plus ERA. Man Cy Young is good (9 up 9 down)................
2005-09-07 17:01:21
40.   Marcus
There's reason to be pessimistic about the Knicks! (I'm a fan as well)

Has anyone noticed that Waechter is pitching a perfect game? Because he is, through three innings. Yup, a perfect game. I wonder if he'll keep up this perfect game?

2005-09-07 17:04:12
41.   weeping for brunnhilde
A perfect game, you say? How about that. Man, perfect games sure are rare, aren't they? How many perfect games have been pitched, anyway? About 14 perfect games?
2005-09-07 17:08:24
42.   JVarghese81
Well, Wright seems to have found his stuff again (though since I'm not watching the game, these could be line drives AT someone).

Let's see if Cy will keep this going. Honestly, if he flat out dominates the Yanks for the rest of the game, this will feel a lot like that combined no-hitter thrown against the Yanks a couple years ago...and if I recall correctly, that didn't feel too good.

2005-09-07 17:08:51
43.   rbj
Oh, that would just be perfect. A perfect metaphor for the Yankees' season, if a Devil Ray, such as Waechter, pitched a perfect game.
2005-09-07 17:09:49
44.   randym77
ROFL! You guys just had to mention the perfect game, didn't you? Such a pity... ;-)
2005-09-07 17:10:00
45.   JVarghese81
Thank you LAWD!!!
2005-09-07 17:10:24
46.   JVarghese81
Now, let's see that happen again...and again...pref. with men on base.
2005-09-07 17:10:27
47.   BklynBomber
Knick fan here, too. The only thing that keeps me mildly interested in the NBA. And as much as love my 'Jints, I don't like it when I can memorize the depth chart by mid-September, which I haven't done since '94...

'bout time, Mats-zilla!!!!

2005-09-07 17:10:43
48.   Marcus
Perfect games are indeed rare. Hideki Matsui home runs are not as rare.
2005-09-07 17:10:58
49.   randym77
I love those "Go! Go!" signs the Japanese fans have. Sort of a bilingual pun...
2005-09-07 17:12:14
50.   rbj
Oh, my. Did we jinx that perfect game? Soooo oh sooo very sorry. Certainly don't want to jinx the win. Careful now, Waechter, don't blow it, don't lose your concentration.
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2005-09-07 17:25:56
51.   randym77
Phew. Wright held them.

Now c'mon, Yanks! I get the feeling they're on the verge of breaking out against Waechter. They're hitting it hard, but not quite long enough.

2005-09-07 17:29:41
52.   weeping for brunnhilde
Booooo!
2005-09-07 17:29:57
53.   JVarghese81
Well, Boston seems to be winning again. As is Cleveland. To stay in the wildcard lead...this is it. 5 innings to score 3 runs...sounds simple enough.

P.s. I'm a Giant's fan too - they'll come around...but as for those Knicks - Lord, if Isiah has a plan there, I sure as hell don't see it. How many tweener guards can one guy really need on his team, almost all of who play no defense??? Still, this is a Yanks board...just felt like sounding off on that too.

2005-09-07 17:29:59
54.   Rich
This offense sucks.
2005-09-07 17:30:09
55.   JVarghese81
4 innings then.
2005-09-07 17:32:19
56.   tocho
Great at-bats by Sierra and Posada. Posada has not looked at one pitch tonight. I think there's a bad case of Cano-itis hitting the Yankee's batters. I'm happy I stuck around... next time please remind me to leave.
2005-09-07 17:32:55
57.   randym77
Why are they swinging so early? Is this their strategy against TB? If so, they should consider changing it, since it doesn't seem terribly effective.
2005-09-07 17:35:26
58.   JVarghese81
Cano-itis - I love that - that's good stuff.
2005-09-07 17:37:38
59.   Rich
Don't blame a rookie when veterans suck.
2005-09-07 17:38:57
60.   tocho
No, its really bad stuff, I just hope Cleveland and Oakland get it as well. Let's get them to cough on them...
2005-09-07 17:41:52
61.   randym77
All right, Jete! Mr. Clutch! ;-)
2005-09-07 17:42:18
62.   weeping for brunnhilde
No one I'd rather see at the bat right now.
2005-09-07 17:44:38
63.   randym77
Go-go Godzilla!!!
2005-09-07 17:44:54
64.   rbj
Re-sign Godzilla. Now.
2005-09-07 17:45:22
65.   weeping for brunnhilde
I don't know why anyone's EVER down on this guy.
2005-09-07 17:45:26
66.   Shaun P
Oh no, they say he's got to go, let's call Godzilla!

I picked the right time to turn the game on!

2005-09-07 17:45:42
67.   yankz
Clutch-Zilla.
2005-09-07 17:47:00
68.   yankz
WUSSES
2005-09-07 17:47:19
69.   Marcus
Wow, intentionally walking A-Rod after striking him out last time. That's respect.

Is this where Giambi gets mad and hits a three run shot?

2005-09-07 17:48:04
70.   randym77
C'mon, Giambi. Make 'em regret walking A-Rod.
2005-09-07 17:49:06
71.   Shaun P
Giambi, I hate when you swing for the fences unnecessarily - but dammit, this is one of the times you should!
2005-09-07 17:49:35
72.   singledd
If anyone knows / has read /has heard anything about Sheff, please post it.
2005-09-07 17:50:29
73.   Shaun P
I was just going to ask the same thing, singledd.

Summnabatch! How many friggin' double plays have our boys grounded into this year, anyway!?!?

2005-09-07 17:50:42
74.   yankz
Ouch.
2005-09-07 17:51:34
75.   tocho
just a kick in the ... neck. Pure bad luck
2005-09-07 17:51:38
76.   singledd
I like the way Giambi is swinging the bat. Bad luck on that one.
2005-09-07 17:52:32
77.   marc
I heard something like strained hamstring-day to day for Sheff. Which I guess means he could be back tomorrow or out for the season
2005-09-07 17:54:35
78.   Shaun P
We don't need anyone else out for the season . . .
2005-09-07 17:56:52
79.   Shaun P
Off topic (sorta) but how nice is it to have Kaat and Singleton and no one else calling these games? Laughing at guys who didn't walk a lot but still somehow won batting titles - wonderful!
2005-09-07 17:57:40
80.   no2ss
Why is it that every flyball to center needs to be an adventure?
2005-09-07 17:59:53
81.   Shaun P
Oh crud, please please don't intentionally walk Huff to face Alex's boy Gomes . . . dammit too late . . .
2005-09-07 18:00:59
82.   tocho
You're right Shaun, Kaat and Singleton are great. Listening to Kay day after day can get to your nerves.
2005-09-07 18:02:57
83.   tocho
I don't like this move at all. Why create problems by walking Huff and bringing in Sturze. At this point, I'm scared of Sturtze.... no confidence AT ALL
2005-09-07 18:03:21
84.   singledd
Bad idea walking Huff...
2005-09-07 18:03:32
85.   Shaun P
I appreciate them all the more, tocho, when I have to listen to some of the cruddy announcers other teams have, 'cause Extra Innings doesn't always use the YES feed.

Last night I was in the kitchen with the game on and I swore I heard Tom Seaver's voice. It wasn't him, of course, but damn that would be a hell of a booth: Kitty, Singleton, and Seaver.

2005-09-07 18:03:41
86.   marc
Sturtze, why do I feel ill
2005-09-07 18:05:20
87.   Shaun P
Nice play, Cano!

Sturtze worries me too, tocho, but at least he got out of this one, with some help.

2005-09-07 18:07:28
88.   Alex Belth
Huge out for Taynon there. I have to admit, I wasn't feeling too confident in his ability to get Gomes out. And watching Giambi (or A Rod!) cirlce under a fly ball doesn't exactly inspire one with confidence either now does it?

Okay, no more bad luck, smash-line drive double plays. Time for a rally, boys. Let's go Lawton.

2005-09-07 18:12:22
89.   Shaun P
Oh Ruben, could you avoid making an out for a change? I guess not. Nice play by Lee, but geez, why does Sierra keep getting playing time? Couldn't he go back to NOT being one of Torre's guys?
2005-09-07 18:16:13
90.   Shaun P
Please please PLEASE Cano, DON'T SWING!
2005-09-07 18:17:22
91.   weeping for brunnhilde
All right, then.

Not to be overly dramatic, but this could be the season.

Deep breaths, all around.

2005-09-07 18:17:22
92.   Alex Belth
Man, is Lou ever the definition of salty or what? Guy is still great.
2005-09-07 18:18:03
93.   Rich
Cano is out of his funk.
2005-09-07 18:19:28
94.   tocho
Follow the leader, c'mon jetes, would it be too much to ask for a 2nd. GS, I'm willing to settle on a base hit..
2005-09-07 18:19:30
95.   marc
How bout a suicide squeeze so we take away the DP
2005-09-07 18:20:31
96.   Shaun P
I don't think I will ever tire of the Lou Piniella face. I'm just glad he's not making it while managing us.
2005-09-07 18:21:22
97.   Shaun P
marc, that was hillarious! Took the tension right out of me - thanks.
2005-09-07 18:21:38
98.   Rich
I want Lou back in pinstipes.
2005-09-07 18:21:58
99.   Marcus
Travis Harper. Think they can score 9 runs off him this inning?
2005-09-07 18:22:40
100.   no2ss
Well, there's your DP. Crap.
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2005-09-07 18:23:01
101.   Rich
Not clutch.
2005-09-07 18:23:29
102.   tocho
Another kick in the balls.
2005-09-07 18:23:42
103.   Zack
God dammit Derek! That is just inexcusable. Hit a fly ball for God's sake
2005-09-07 18:23:47
104.   Marcus
"This could be the season right here."

Ugh...

2005-09-07 18:23:47
105.   weeping for brunnhilde
slump
2005-09-07 18:23:50
106.   Alex Belth
That is a brutal double play by Jeter. Bru-fuggin-tal.
2005-09-07 18:24:10
107.   Shaun P
@$)#&%)#%&)#(%(#!%#!%!#%#!%(#!%(!#%_(
#!%()#!%()#!()%#!()%()#!()%!#()%)*(#!

(Figure there might be some kids reading this.)

@(&#%)!#&%(#!$_!#$(!#%)@!%(@!($@!&$)&@
!%)(&!@#)&%@#!%{!@%%@!*%*(@!(*%@!%@%@!

Maybe that suicide squeeze wasn't such a bad idea.

2005-09-07 18:24:23
108.   yankz
Dammit. They had Jeter played perfectly.
2005-09-07 18:25:38
109.   no2ss
Two innings to come back. Not out of it yet.
2005-09-07 18:26:15
110.   singledd
Even Jetes is playing dumb. Do you see how far inside that pitch was? Why not wait for something over the plate? Or even outside, where it's easier to punch it the other way! Did you see that pitch? Why did he swing at such a shitty pitch with a 2-1 count?

Oh my shit hurts!

2005-09-07 18:26:16
111.   yankz
Two words for the season:

IT'S. OVER

Of course, those are the exact same words ESPN used to describe the ALCS after the Game 3 pounding...

Still, I'm a realist.

2005-09-07 18:26:25
112.   Zack
And with the Sox winning, and Cleveland and Oakland already having won, we can kiss any chance of the division, and our wild card lead goodbye
2005-09-07 18:26:39
113.   weeping for brunnhilde
Clarification: slump as in, wfb slumps in chair, demoralized by the situation.
2005-09-07 18:27:27
114.   Paul in Boston
I have lots of work to do tonight, so I turned it off when Cano walked to avoid getting overwrought. It's marginally less painful this way, reading about it on Bronx Banter rather than watching it on TV ...

But it's still painful. Damn.

2005-09-07 18:28:04
115.   tocho
THROW STRIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2005-09-07 18:28:31
116.   Zack
Oh but don't worry, good ol' Embree is getting up
2005-09-07 18:29:00
117.   singledd
Does anyone know Jetes BA with RISP this year? Man... he has ended a LOT of innings (and a number of games too).
2005-09-07 18:29:30
118.   no2ss
Nice phantom tag, Cano!
2005-09-07 18:29:47
119.   Rich
Cano is a very good defensive player. 'Nuff said.
2005-09-07 18:30:24
120.   weeping for brunnhilde
I'm sick of this Cleveland and Oakland shit. I'm sorry, I know I sound like a typical Yankee fan saying this, but honestly, it's demeaning to have to even have to concern ourselves with Oakland and Cleveland, let alone entertain the possibility of having either of them put an end to the postseason run.

That it should come to this.

2005-09-07 18:31:02
121.   Rich
Jeter with RISP:

.257 .381 .372 .753

2005-09-07 18:31:22
122.   randym77
Cano's earned his paycheck tonight.
2005-09-07 18:32:04
123.   singledd
Thanks Rich. Lets NOT talk clutch.
2005-09-07 18:32:19
124.   tocho
What's your level of confidence for a comeback? Mine is a bit low I must say..
2005-09-07 18:33:27
125.   marc
I think Matsui's the only one on the team who understands and executes situational hitting. Actually the squeeze wasn't so ludicrous because Jeter is the only one on the team who really knows how to bunt. These days if we tried a squeeze we'd only end up with an injured multimillionare at the plate (which probably doesn't exist in TB
2005-09-07 18:33:32
126.   Zack
wfb, I hate to say it, but get used to it. Both are young and nasty, and will be so for awhile as we continue to age without dignity

I simply tip my cap to them for getting it right.

Now this Devil Ray shit is another story

2005-09-07 18:34:00
127.   singledd
Jeter with RISP: .257 .381 .372 .753
OBP higher then Slugging? So he walks a lot but doesn't hit for shit?
2005-09-07 18:34:25
128.   Shaun P
I'm curious . . .

Matsui: 19 DPs out of 144 opportunities (13.5%)
Bernie: 17 out of 111 (15.3%)
Cano: 15 out of 100 (15%)
Jeter: 13 out of 96 (13.5%)
Sheff: 13 out of 131 (9.9%)
Tino: 11 out of 81 (13.6%)
A-Rod: 9 out of 127 (7.1%)
Giambi: 7 out of 106 (6.6%)
Womack: 7 out of 75 (9.3%)
Jorge: 6 out of 103 (5.8%)

Team total: 129 out of 1162 (11.1%)

Not quite as bad as I thought. (Data from Baseball Prospectus)

2005-09-07 18:36:49
129.   Shaun P
OK Mr. MVP, its time to do your thing - just don't make an out, dammit. I don't care what you do, just don't make a freakin' out!
2005-09-07 18:38:14
130.   no2ss
A hit! Amazing!
2005-09-07 18:38:49
131.   randym77
Good job, A-rod!
2005-09-07 18:39:01
132.   Shaun P
Thanks, A-Rod. Giambi, now its your turn - but with Sierra coming up, you've got to get an extra base hit here. In any case, don't make an out!
2005-09-07 18:39:12
133.   no2ss
THERE WE GO!
2005-09-07 18:39:37
134.   randym77
GIAMBI!!!!

And thank you, A-rod, for getting on base.

2005-09-07 18:39:49
135.   Shaun P
SONOFABITCH! I should ask for things more often!
2005-09-07 18:39:57
136.   weeping for brunnhilde
How. About. That.
2005-09-07 18:40:06
137.   marc
The Giambino!!!
2005-09-07 18:40:39
138.   BklynBomber
Rays tie it the top of the 9th. Easy money.
2005-09-07 18:42:12
139.   marc
Are we going to win now or is this just more horrific torture they figured out?
2005-09-07 18:42:16
140.   tocho
Hey BklynBomber, please no!! I already had my last TUMS.
2005-09-07 18:42:19
141.   Zack
Holy Crap!!! I jsut turned arway from game cast to type a few pages after Bernie grounded out and holy shit if Giambi didn't put us ahead!
2005-09-07 18:43:17
142.   Shaun P
Enter Sandman! Those shots from the blimp are pretty amazing. C'mon MO, 3 quick outs and we can all get some sleep tonight.
2005-09-07 18:43:55
143.   marc
Bonus coverage ESPN going to NY for me.
2005-09-07 18:44:26
144.   BklynBomber
Hell, I'm drinking cleaning products right now! This can't be an easy inning. But I sure hope it is...
2005-09-07 18:44:44
145.   Rich
The Yankees are a different team when Giambi is Giambi, even if Sheff is out for a little while.
2005-09-07 18:44:50
146.   singledd
The pitch to Giambi was inside and easy to pull foul. The guy is on the ball. And he can't get thrown out at second on that one!

In April, I said .290/.390/.490 for Giambi. Cliff said nice, but overly optimistic. God, with RJ, the pitching staff, Woemack, Posada and Bernie, it;s nice to have one pleasant surprise.

2005-09-07 18:45:57
147.   singledd
tocho... sorry to say this is at LEAST a Mylanta (extra strength) team.
2005-09-07 18:45:58
148.   singledd
tocho... sorry to say this is at LEAST a Mylanta (extra strength) team.
2005-09-07 18:46:22
149.   yankz
I like our chances with Mo.
2005-09-07 18:46:47
150.   Shaun P
Hey - there was some chin music - isn't everyone here always asking for some? (I know it was Julio Lugo but still.)
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2005-09-07 18:48:03
151.   JVarghese81
HAHAHA - that was awesome - I came home from work to catch the ARod single and the Giambi homerun. Man, that's some nice stuff right there...let's close this out.
2005-09-07 18:48:37
152.   Rich
Mo should be the CFer when he isn't closing.
2005-09-07 18:48:39
153.   randym77
Hallelujah!
2005-09-07 18:49:05
154.   BklynBomber
The demon D Ray has been exorcized!!!!!!! Here comes a 10 game win streak!!!!!!!!!
2005-09-07 18:49:05
155.   Zack
Anyone else notice anythign weird there with A-Rod and Jeter after Jeter made the catch?
2005-09-07 18:49:13
156.   Rich
About time.

Wang has to be big tomorrow.

2005-09-07 18:49:34
157.   weeping for brunnhilde
That's right!

Fuck it, bring on Boston! ;)

2005-09-07 18:49:36
158.   BklynBomber
Zack, no... what was it?
2005-09-07 18:49:37
159.   marc
Mo was great. Especially that brushback pitch followed by the corner strike
2005-09-07 18:49:52
160.   yankz
Would these team please make up its mind- are you good or not?!?!
2005-09-07 18:50:00
161.   Shaun P
'Atta boy, Mo! Its nice to head off to sleep knowing we won.

Geez, everyone who left after the first will sure be surprised when they read this later.

2005-09-07 18:53:40
162.   singledd
"Anyone else notice anythign weird there with A-Rod and Jeter after Jeter made the catch?"

ABSOLUTELY. Looked like ARod wanted to end it, but it was Jetes ball. ARod looked pissed.

2005-09-07 18:55:05
163.   singledd
Thank God. I don't know if I could have taken back-to-back losses to the DRays. Thank you Alex Giambi.
2005-09-07 18:55:39
164.   Zack
Yeah, after Jeter made the catch, A-Rod kind of brushed past him, almsot giving him a shoulder, and walked quickly the other way, away from the handshakes...But ESPN turned away before I could see where he went
2005-09-07 18:55:44
165.   Paul in Boston
Hey, that home run by Giambi -- anyone remember Pat Kelly's home run (vs Toronto, I think) late in the season in 1995?
2005-09-07 18:56:21
166.   randym77
Interesting. I know which one I trust more to catch a popup like that.
2005-09-07 18:56:24
167.   BxSparksNYC
"Anyone else notice anythign weird there with A-Rod and Jeter after Jeter made the catch?"

I noticed too, but tivo'd it and it just looked like ARod back off at the last second. SS mentality at 3rd. He's looked serious but hasn't he as we've reach crunch time

2005-09-07 18:58:17
168.   Shaun P
Looks like A-Rod called Jeter off after Jeter raised his hand to call A-Rod off . . . Jeter catches the ball and A-Rod raises both hands, for high fives? . . . but Jeter isn't looking at him . . . so A-Rod lifts his cap with his right hand - very smooth, Mr. MVP . . . at the end it almost looked like Jeter patted A-Rod on the head with his glove hand . . . I wouldn't read too much into it.

Competition is good. (And TiVo really helps to break these things down.)

Meanwhile, anyone else see how excited Small and Chacon were walking out of the dugout with Giambi? Both smiling, Small clapping his hands together. Very nice.

2005-09-07 18:58:43
169.   Max
Even though this has been an up and down season, I always felt the team hit a turning point when they came back against Cleveland back in July in the ninth...with two homers from ARod and Giambi against Wickman. This helped avoid a sweep and the team falling five games back of Boston, and was pretty damned dramatic.

Since then, even with some serious lows (mostly pitching meltdowns by Moose and RJ), the Yanks' pitching and general demeanor improved, and so did the overall level of play.

With the 8th inning of this game looking like 3 up and 3 down, I was getting ready to write off the division and the wild card, and write off the turning point as false hope. But thank goodness for another HUGE win, as big as any this season. And again, the MVP and the comeback player do the job.

2005-09-07 18:59:56
170.   Shaun P
A-Rod also hugged Giambi when the fielders reached the end of the handshake line - he looked pretty happy then.
2005-09-07 19:00:41
171.   tocho
Alex, a suggestion for your headline tomorrow, "Too close for comfort".

Man talk about taking the small local road instead of the large and fast Toll Road.

I think Wright was one of the big heroes of the night, he was really great after the first inning. Sturtze should be used every third day from now on, when he's rested he's a fair relief pitcher. I'm glad they didn't use Gordon tonight and the last thing I think the Mariano annual funk is over (we need him this weekend vs. the "we got his number" BoSox).

2005-09-07 19:01:54
172.   Rich
Small and Chacon are excited because they are tired of carrying this team by themselves.
2005-09-07 19:02:49
173.   singledd
While ARod has been our MVP, I think it has been Giambi's resurgence that has led to our being in position for the WC. I would love to see a correlation between games Giambi has done well in and games we have won. My gut tells me Giambi has been the difference.
2005-09-07 19:04:50
174.   randym77
Kind of sad that they - and we - get so excited at beating the likes of Tampa Bay. But heck, it IS a big win. TB has been their bete noire this year.
2005-09-07 19:08:02
175.   singledd
With Kazmir and a lot of young talent, the Rays are one pitcher away from a decent team, and 2 pitchers away from a very dangerous team.
2005-09-07 19:10:45
176.   Schteeve
Jeter tapped A-Rod on the melon...nothing more than that I think.
2005-09-07 19:12:04
177.   Zack
BX and Shaun, Thanks! Makes me wish I had tivo (well, hell, I wished I had it long before that). The hand slap thing seems perfect for A-rod. Funny, I have always thought of him as very un-socially smooth, yet all his haters talk about him seeming TOO slick/smooth etc...

I think Wright and Embree should have a chaw off to see who could chew more chaw

2005-09-07 19:12:49
178.   randym77
Yeah, TB is not the doormat they used to be. Still...we can take 3 out of 4 against the Red Sox, and two out of three against the White Sox, but the best we can do against TB is a 1-1 split? It's just bizarre.
2005-09-07 19:16:16
179.   randym77
Torre just got interviewed on YES. He was asked about Sheff. He said Sheff thought it was just a cramp. He feels better now, and might play tomorrow, but only as a DH.
2005-09-07 19:52:02
180.   Stormer Sports
Zach.

I saw it too, on MLB.TV so I got a longer shot. I hate to say it but, he gave him a "who the hell are you tapping me on the head" look and brush, which upset me quite a bit. Kind of the same look Joe Paterno gave Steve Spurrier when he tapped him on the head after beating him in a Bowl game. Only in that instance, it was the right person giving the look!

I also saw Jeter's eyes when Giambi went deep and he was clapping his hands, I'm not a psychologist but I do pay attention in life, not to mention spent enough time working with people closely, and he looked to me like he was very happy but knew he had blown it, that more was expected of him--perhaps unfairly to be sure--and he was a little lost inside.

It's been this way all year, well not to the point where I actually felt for him, really got an emotional reaction to his reaction. This sort of tension that has been present for a while between Jeter on one side and Sheff and AROD on the other. AROD can't help but feel a little odd when fans cheer louder for Jeet than him most of the time. He even said, I think last week: "I couldn't care less what the fans think . . . I know my family loves me . . . I couldn't care less about the fans."

It must nean something. Maybe he feels underapreciated, maybe Sheff has infiltrated him with his own special brand of "the world is out to get me" ora. Maybe he knows as I do that he is doing just about everything right and Jeet still gets the headlines, maybe he's just immature and selfish?

Joe lost his ability to quell distractions and petty differences?

It's been bothering me for a while and I finally saw a public manifestation of what I was feeling all along tonight. Derek and Tino, and Paulie, and Mo, and Andy, and Cone, and Roger, and Scotty, and even Boggsy, we add a y or a knickname at the end when they give us something, something special, and AROD hasn't given us that yet, or been involved in it happening.

Maybe AROD and Sheff and maybe others don't quite get it. Remember they look at the game from their own perspective, a perspective of not winning, playing for numbers, not competing for the big one, not having it truly be a failure when that doesn't happen.

He raves about Tino, who also gets louder cheers than he does, but doesn't brush him off.

Maybe it's as simple as a testoterone driven power struggle?

Whatever it is, it's unacepptable. It's unacceptable behavior for a Yankee. Paulie or Tino never would have displayed that garbage!

The bottom line is if you want to lead Arod, then lead, do it! Don't do that to Jeter while we are barely in the playoffs. You're approach working better than his? Results better? It's almost like he's saying, here, here you go Jeet, take it and do it yourself, you're so great, lets see how you like it. It's childish at best.

Bottom line, if Jeter hurts, I actually get upset, sick as that sounds. He, and others of course gave me some of the best and happiest moments in my life the past few years and it should not stand. If there is nothing to it, I'd be a lot happier, but I can't disagree with a feeling I've had all year, even going back last year.

If I were Joe and knew that was happening, I would literally sit AROD and Sheff the remainder of the year and ban them from the clubhouse. If what is happening is actually happening, I think even George would understand, he knows what Jeet has done for him and his team. It might even drive the rest of the team closer, together, and they might even play better. We won every one of those championships with less talent than what would be left in their absence.

It will not, and never will change Yankee fan's feelings for Derek Jeter, not this one for sure.

Don't do this guys, you're Yankees, act like it. Don't alienate the finest Yankee since Donny, don't do it!

2005-09-07 19:54:20
181.   Alex Belth
I noticed the dynamics on the last play too. Mo went for the ball, A Rod called for it, Jeter called him off. With all the Alpha Males in the room please stand up. I wouldn't read much into it either though I don't think Jeter and Rodriguez have anything but a professional relationship. Regardless, kudos to Giambi for coming up big, especially after getting robbed for his liner in the sixth. And big props to Rodriguez for his two out, two strike at bat. That was a good pitch he lined to center. Wasn't trying to do too much. Beautiful.

A's--holy comeback, Tribe and Sox all win. And so do the Yanks. Plus, no Michael Kay all night and it's cool, with gorgeous sleeping weather here in the city...? Yipee. Sweet dreams y'all. See ya in the a.m.

2005-09-07 20:01:19
182.   randym77
Jeez. Okay, I'm going to have to tape the rerun and see what youse guys are talking about.
2005-09-07 20:11:00
183.   Stormer Sports
I hope you're right, and the Alpha male comment was muy funny. I just cant deny, at least, what I think Jeter is feeling. I have seen it for a while.
2005-09-07 20:26:33
184.   Stormer Sports
I would love to see Giambi go wild and grab 100 RBI, now that would be one incredible story. Not to mention, he deserves it, he's worked harder this year than anyone and we all appreciate that he stuck with it. Thanks Jason, Thanks Donnie.
2005-09-07 20:34:38
185.   randym77
I don't think there's any doubt that Jeter knew he'd screwed up. His hitting into a DP two nights in a row was the topic of conversation in the post-game show during both Torre's interview and Jeter's. (Along with comments about how unusual it was for him to make such a mistake twice in a row.)

But I can't believe A-Rod would be anything but professional, at least in front of the fans - and the cameras. They do that "pat each other on the head" thing all the time, so I can't see either of them getting upset about it.

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A lot of people worried that A-Rod would be one too many superstar egos in the clubhouse, but in public, at least, he's been a team player. Many were predicting that he'd push Jeter out of SS, but it hasn't happened, and I haven't seen any evidence that he's even trying.

2005-09-07 23:25:20
186.   Rich
A-Rod has been the ultimate team player; Jeter hasn't. A-Rod is a better SS than Jeter. There won't be many CFers available in the off season. Jeter has the skills to be a very good CFer. It's time for Jeter to volunteer to move to CF for the good of the team. He could be the next Robin Yount.
2005-09-08 04:21:05
187.   randym77
I dunno...I'm not sure that would be the smartest thing to do at this point in his career. He's not exactly a spring chicken any more.

3rd base was the big hole before A-Rod. He's become a great 3rd baseman. I don't think Jeter (or anyone else we're likely to get ahold of) would play 3rd as well, so I don't see any point is moving them.

The Yankees need to find some young talent for the outfield, not yet another aging veteran.

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