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All-Star Jams
2005-06-30 08:58
by Cliff Corcoran

With the All-Star voting closing tonight at 11:59pm and the Yanks enjoying an off-day following a rain out, I though I'd share my picks.


1B - Mark Teixeira
2B - Brian Roberts
SS - Miguel Tejada
3B - Alex Rodriguez
C - Jason Varitek
OF - Vladimir Guerrero
CF - Hideki Matsui
OF - Gary Sheffield


1B - Derek Lee
2B - Jeff Kent
SS - Bill Hall
3B - Aramis Ramirez
C - Paul Lo Duca
OF - Bobby Abreu
CF - Jason Bay
OF - Miguel Cabrera

There are two sides to picking an All-Star team. One is picking the players who have performed the best over the first three months of the current season. The other is choosing the biggest stars at each position. This is similar to the peak vs. career conversation that often arises when weighing a player's Hall of Fame candidacy. Myself, I lean toward choosing the players who have performed best in the current season, the logic being that they have these things every year for a reason. Even Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez have to earn an All-Star appearance in my book. Some would argue that a three-month period is not a large enough sample, that perhaps it would be better to reward the previous years' performance, thus allowing things to even out over a full season. Me, I'd much rather see Norm Cash in 1961 than in 1962 and Brady Anderson in 1996 than 1997, thus I'll continue to vote for the players having the best season and risk the odd fluke selection.

Those who disagree will likely take one look at the above list of names and get all bent out of shape over my choosing Milwaukee's Bill Hall as the starting National League shortstop. To them I ask, would you prefer Felipe Lopez?

Things are pretty dire at shortstop in the National League this year. Just ten NL shortstops have tallied more than ten runs against replacement (RARP). The Reds' Lopez tops that list at 22.8 RARP. By comparison, the no-brainer AL choice, Miguel Tejada, is 44.7 runs above replacement. The other four men are, in order, Hall, injured Colorado rookie Clint Barmes, David Eckstein and Omar Vizquel. Based on star wattage, Vizquel is really the only legitimate All-Star on that list, but looking at EQA, he and Eckstein trail the other three by a significant amount (Vizquel .267, Eckstein .266; Lopez .298, Hall .290, Barmes .283).

By now you're probably wondering why not Felipe Lopez. My answer is defense. If I'm going to vote for a no-name shortstop, he better be able to play his position. Lopez leads all NL shortstops in EQA and RARP (as well as homers, RBIs, and OPS), but he's put up a monstrous 87 Rate, making him a primary offender in the Reds historically bad defense. I just can't vote for anyone who fits that description.

Now to digress for a moment, there are two men on my All-Star ballot who have posted a Rate in the 80s thus far this year, one of whom is helping to dragging his team's Defensive Efficiency to the bottom of his league. The difference there is that those two men, Brian Roberts (88 Rate at second base) and Alex Rodriguez (85 Rate at third for the AL-worst Yankees), have been the two best hitters in the American League this year.

So back to the NL shortstops, with Lopez eliminated, Hall becomes the best offensive shortstop in the league. He's also posted a 110 rate in his games at short this year. Of course, there comes another catch. Hall has started just 30 games at shortstop this year because the Brewers are still hoping J.J. Hardy will start to hit (thus far no luck, he's only managed a .175/.287/.253 line). To that end my vote is also a bit of a message to the Brewers management: send the 22-year-old Hardy and his .192 GPA down for another season of seasoning and give the 25-year-old Hall the job. It's not as if they'd be wasting the playing time on a declining veteran while burying a rookie who's clearly ready for the bigs. Meanwhile, they're only 7.5 games out of the Wild Card. Milwaukee fans have had nothing to root for for more than a decade, give them Bill Hall. Give us all Bill Hall! (Did I mention he's 7 for 8 on the bases? Well, he is.)

By the way, Hall won't win. He's not even in the top five vote getters right now. The tally as of Monday was:

Cesar Izturis - 940,944
Eckstein - 896,531
Nomar Garciaparra - 712,410
Barmes - 569,605
Jose Reyes - 472,310

Izturis has a .237 EQA and a sub-Hall 104 Rate. If you want someone deserving to go, vote for Eckstein. Besides, it sure would stick it to the Red Sox and Angels to see Eckstein, the man non-tendered to make room for Orlando Cabrera in Los Anaheim, who was passed over to make room for Edgar Renteria in Boston, be the only one of the three to not only make, but start the All-Star Game, especially as he's making just $2.3 million to Cabrera's six and Renteria's eight this year.

Elsewhere, a lot of these choices were obvious. In the American League, Teixeira, Roberts, Tejada, Rodriguez, Guerrero, Varitek and Ortiz were such clear-cut choices that even the voting agrees. Of course, it took a while for Teixeira to overtake the overenthusiastic Yankee fans who voted for Tino Martinez (still second in the voting), Roberts could use some help fending off Alfonso Soriano (who has a 78 Rate), and Guerrero actually trails Manny Ramirez in the overall outfield vote, but still, good work by the fans there.

My second and third choices for the AL outfield might require some explanation. Again there are two methods commonly applied here. One is to vote for the three best outfielders regardless of which field they play. The other is to vote for the best left, center and right fielders as if they were separate categories. I prefer to vote for a center fielder and the two best corner outfielders without distinguishing between right and left field, thus Matsui. Johnny Damon (creeping up on the massively undeserving Ichiro Suzuki, who currently holds the third AL spot) and Torii Hunter are both having excellent seasons and are purer centerfielders than Matsui, who has started fewer games in center than Bill Hall has at short (with a poor 91 Rate to boot), but Matsui has flat out-hit both of them despite his nearly month-and-a-half swoon. Given a choice between Damon and Hunter, I'd choose Hunter (who's the better defender, has stolen 18 bases to Damon's 8--both at solid rates--and out-homered Damon 14 to 3). But with Matsui as an option, I've got to go with Godzilla's monster bat.

The final spot then comes down to Gary Sheffield vs. Manny Ramirez. Ramirez has some remarkable counting stats (19 homers, a league-leading 68 RBIs) which account for his top vote total, but he's been inconsistent and typically poor in the field. Sheffield, meanwhile, has been a rock, besting Manny's EQA .322 to .307 by hitting .300/.401/.502 as a righty in Yankee Stadium to Manny's .272/.365/.545 as a righty in Fenway. Sheff adds a 6 for 7 on the bases and a surprisingly solid 99 Rate in the field, thus he's my choice.

In the NL, the no-brainers are fewer. Derek Lee has been the best player in baseball this year, adding a 10 for 12 on the bases and a 110 Rate to an almost Bondsian performance at the plate. Beyond Lee, only Kent, Abreu and maybe Lo Duca come without a challenge. We've discussed shortstop. Third base was a dead heat between David Wright, Morgan Ensberg and my eventual choice Aramis Ramirez. Wright lost out due to his glove (89 Rate). Ensberg almost won because of his (111), but ultimately, I allowed the "star" factor to come into play here, choosing Ramirez because he's both younger (by nearly three years) and has a stronger track record.

Which leaves the outfield. Again, searching for a centerfielder I discovered that Jason Bay has started 23 games there this year, just two fewer than Matsui, giving him the nod over Jim Edmonds, who trails him by ten points in EQA, and major league home run leader Andrew Jones, who trails hm by fifteen. The second corner spot then came down to Cabrera against Brian Giles. Looking at Giles numbers it's staggering how much Petco suppresses offense. Both Giles and Ryan Klesko are having excellent seasons for the Padres, but you wouldn't know it by looking at traditional leaderboards. Even so, Cabrera has him beat by the park-adjusted EQA (.335 to .326) and, frankly, I'm much more interested in seeing the 22-year-old Cabrera play than I am the 34-year-old Giles.

So there you have it. Now off to submit my 25 ballots, with the odd Eckstein vote worked in there to have some bearing on reality (did I mention that Derrek Lee was 59,912 votes behind Albert Pujols at first as of Monday? Outrage!).

2005-06-30 12:24:36
1.   Oliver
Nice list, but about those AL OFers... you say you want a real CF, then pick Matsui? How many games has he started there? Meanwhile I'm not sure how you can say he's "flat out-hitting" Damon when their OBP/SLG/OPS are .372/.493/.866 for Matsui's "monster bat" and .383/.463/.846 for Damon... I don't think 20 points in OPS comes close to closing the gap in defense. Damon's not hitting home runs but he's doing everything else.

Sheffield vs. Ramirez could really go either way, I think, but you don't mention Manny's leading in OPS .909 to .898; meanwhile, while Ramirez's defense is hardly stellar, he was last time I checked leading the league in outfield assists, while Sheffield is not exactly a defensive star himself. I guess you think park effects gives the nod to Sheffield. I can't fault going with either of those guys; but I just can't see Matsui over Damon.

2005-06-30 12:38:10
2.   Athos
Although a total Yanks fan, I'd have to pick Damon over Matsui too... I think that Sheffield has a slight edge over Ramirez defensively (that beautiful arm)
2005-06-30 13:02:01
3.   Cliff Corcoran
OPS is an overrated stat. I much prefer GPA (which weighs OBP appropriately) as a shorthand and Baseball Prospectus's far more complex EQA, which adjusts for everything (park, league etc.) and accounts for all aspects of a player's offense (steals etc.). EQA often results in a number very similar to GPA, which only increases my fondness for the latter.
2005-06-30 13:03:02
4.   debris
By what bizarre stretch of the imagination can you possbily pick Hideki Matsui and his "monster" .866 ops over Johnny Damon, who by the way is now leading Ichiro by over 100,000 votes.
2005-06-30 13:16:33
5.   Oliver
Fair enough if you think that EQA is a better measure than OPS and tips the balance in favor of Sheffield, but I still don't see Matsui's monster bat being far above Damon. If we're looking at advanced batting metrics, how about WARP: from the BP pages I see WARP1 of 3.5 for Damon and 3.6 for Matsui.
2005-06-30 13:18:14
6.   Cliff Corcoran
The monster thing was a pun, but it was by comparing his .310 EQA to Damon's .301 and then considering the ability of each to carry a team. When Matsui's hot he can't be pitched to.
2005-06-30 13:25:39
7.   Oliver
I looked a little deeper for VORP (which should encompass all aspects of the game) and found them closer than I expected: it's pretty much a wash, 27.5 for Damon and 27.4 for Matsui, so presumably Johnny's defense just makes up for those 9 points of EQA. But by your criteria, I'd still pick Damon, since he's a full-time CF :)
2005-06-30 13:28:00
8.   rsmith51

Is there an updated EQA and/or GPA list online?

2005-06-30 13:29:37
9.   Oliver
Sheffield crushes Manny at VORP, by the way. I think at this point I'd go Vlad-Damon-Sheffield.
2005-06-30 14:00:15
10.   Cliff Corcoran
EQA is updated daily on the player cards on Baseball Prospectus. GPA = [(1.8 * OBP) + SLG]/4, do the math yourself (I do). VORP is a cumulative stat, the others are rate stats. I prefer to use rate stats whenever playing time is roughly equivalent, it corrects for variations in plate appearances due to injury, placement in the batting order, and strength of line-up (which results in more at-bats because the team bats around more often).
2005-06-30 14:05:41
11.   Cliff Corcoran
Oh, and WARP and VORP are basically the same thing, but use different formulas as they were devised by different BP writers. WARP is measured in wins, VORP is measured in runs. In a vague kind of way 10 VORP = 1 WARP or thereabouts, but don't quote me on that last part. The other catch is that both interperate replacement level differently, but I'm not sure on the details of how they differ.
2005-06-30 14:34:02
12.   Oliver
The WARP I looked up at BP was listed under offensive stats, so I took that to be hitting/baserunning only, that could be wrong but the BP listing is confusing if so. The VORP on the other hand I took to have defense in it as well (pitchers were on the list).

Damon's higher OBP means their GPA is just about a wash, .290 for HM to .289 for JD. Interesting that the EQA gives a bigger split in favor of Matsui, I assume it's again park effects.

2005-06-30 16:14:11
13.   Vishal
not a word about eckstein's defense? what's it been like this year, out of curiosity? he has notoriously poor range.
2005-06-30 16:58:29
14.   Cliff Corcoran
Eckstein's Rate is 93. So yeah, poor, but not Felipe Lopez bad. Miguel Tejada's at 94, by the way.
2005-06-30 22:30:48
15.   Jeff P
VORP measures only offensive contributions, whereas WARP takes defense into account. In general, (VORP + FRAR)/10 = WARP, but that's not at all precise, and tends to give a slightly higher WARP than the player actually has.

Also, am I the only guy that has a problem with Lo Duca? In my opinion, a guy who can only play 80 games a season behind the plate before falling apart doesn't deserve to start in the midsummer classic, no matter how good his first half is. I support Ramon Hernandez, who has significantly more power than Lo Duca, and has a VORPr less than .02 lower than Lo Duca's.

P.S. Bill Hall isn't getting votes at short partially because he has to be written in. I didn't think about him until my brother pointed him out.

2005-07-01 06:56:15
16.   Cliff Corcoran
Hernandez is a worthy candidate, but he's on the DL. If you don't like Lo Duca (and you're point about his durability is a good one), then it's back to Piazza.
2005-07-01 09:31:02
17.   Peoples Hernandez
talking of sheffield's arm ignores that he's the worst (no, I've watched film, honestly) RF in the league in running backwards on any ball- his feet enter quicksand the moment anything is hit above his head, making plenty of outs into doubles. plus, seemingly incompetent as he is in the OF, manny is leading the AL in assists- justify it as you will (and there are plenty of ways to think of it), it's a fact. ramirez, who's been on a tear as of late, will be the better player by season's end. vaudeville villain gary sheffield (gotta love how the mustache suits him) gets a spot on my bench.

(I'm not even going to justify the matsui pick with a response.)

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