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Day Tripper
2008-09-20 07:42
by Alex Belth
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It is sunny and cool and decidedly a fall day.  The last day game at Yankee Stadium.

Enjoy y'all.

As Aaron Gleeman says, Happy Baseball.

2008-09-20 08:41:25
1.   unmoderated
My wife is there in left field with my moms and my sister. It's like the Sisterhood of Traveling Batting Gloves out there.

My mom's first Yankee game since 1977.

2008-09-20 09:53:22
2.   OldYanksFan
Classic Donovan Alex... Thanks.
Bizarre hairdos aside, what a stunning girl. Who is she?
2008-09-20 10:08:16
3.   rbj
Ah good, today's game isn't available on EI nor on Fox. Because really, who would want to watch the second to last game ever, and the last day game ever at Yankee Stadium. Brilliant thinking Fox. But we do get Cards & Cubs at 3:30. Yawn.
2008-09-20 10:17:22
4.   rbj
Ok, checking in on the game via Yahoo sports, Baltimore's first inning when like this:
- B. Roberts doubled to deep right
- A. Jones unknown into double play, B. Roberts out at second
- N. Markakis singled to left
- A. Huff grounded out to second

My question is which Yankee is leading the team in unknowing into double plays? A-Rod?

2008-09-20 10:22:46
5.   unmoderated
4 if you are interested, Jones tried to bunt, Aceves caught it on the fly, and trotted to 2nd to double up Roberts unassisted.
2008-09-20 10:40:43
6.   rbj
5 Thanks.

I do like the concept of unknowing into double plays.

2008-09-20 10:45:09
7.   randym77
2 Sue Lyon, according to the original YouTube page.


Sue Lyon came into Donovan's life at the end of 1965. This was two or three years before he met his "Jennifer Juniper" (Jenny Boyd). Lyon had starred in "Lolita" and "Night of the Iguana" before meeting Donovan. The couple dated until 1967 when Sue ended the relationship abruptly. Donovan had evidently slipped LSD in Sue's and her friend's drinking cup at a party. Sue described her trip as "frightening and disturbing" and she "felt her self-control disintegrating". After this incident Lyon never spoke to Donovan again until 1975. The two are now good friends and Sue attended Ione Skye's (Donovan's daughter) marriage to King Ad-Rock (with the Beastie Boys)


2008-09-20 11:31:33
8.   OldYanksFan
Is this the game thread? I mean.... wherethehelliseverybody?
2008-09-20 11:33:23
9.   OldYanksFan
7 I did plenty of acid in those days, but 'slipping' it into someone's drink is really cruel. And doing this to your girlfriend? Jeez... where was Donovan's head?
2008-09-20 11:34:07
10.   rbj
8 I'm just checking in from time to time. Apparently the suits at Fox didn't think this game was important enough to broadcast, just important enough to blackout anywhere other than NY & Baltimore.
2008-09-20 11:34:32
11.   thelarmis
8 i'm here! hungover...but here. yes, that sue lyon lady is stunning. stunningly beautiful! i have a thing for blondes... goin' to the braves game with one tonight : )
2008-09-20 11:36:46
12.   thelarmis
without looking it up, i think boBBy is 1 away from:

40 doubles
20 homers
20 steals
.300 avg

not bad, not bad...

2008-09-20 11:36:55
13.   OldYanksFan
11 I don't even like blonds but she is a knockout. Lolita indeed!
2008-09-20 11:39:37
14.   OldYanksFan
Nobody wants Bobby back, but aside from Dunn, I don't see many OFers I like. Rumor says the Yanks go after Manny, but I hope not. The idea of 3 or 4 years of Manny is scary. People want Giambi, Bobby and Matsui/JD gone, but I don't know who replaces them.
2008-09-20 11:40:12
15.   thelarmis
13 i'm basically exclusively for blondes. been like that my whole life. yeah, she's "classically beautiful"!
2008-09-20 11:42:32
16.   thelarmis
ACEves lookin' good
2008-09-20 11:47:41
17.   thelarmis
if boBBy reaches 20-20 this season, it'll be his 8th time reaching those numbers. only 2 players in history have more 20-20 seasons.

barry bonds - 9
bobby bonds - 10

2008-09-20 11:57:48
18.   OldYanksFan
Cobham Thread:
In case it's not obvious... only drummers allowed!
2008-09-20 12:09:07
19.   rbj
Did both teams forget to bring bats today?
2008-09-20 12:10:17
20.   OldYanksFan
No bats... just drumsticks.
2008-09-20 12:29:03
21.   thelarmis
18 20 that's awesome! i was trying to think how to incorporate drums into this. you went right for it directly - i like that : )

i use tiny little toothpicks for drumsticks - Vater Manhattan 7A (wood tip)

Vater Concert for snare drum playing & warming up (equivalent to a Vic Firth SD1 General)

when i was in high school, i played the old pro-mark Billy Cobham stick (808 nylon tip). later on, one of the times i met him (super nice guy!), he gave me a pair of his weird Vic Firth model sticks. i have 'em at my studio...

2008-09-20 12:33:57
22.   thelarmis
Mo is the greatest! : )

heart of the order is up. just win the damn game...

2008-09-20 12:41:23
23.   thelarmis
gardner is sooo speedy! boBBy with the 4-pitch walk. c'mon Alex, win the
2008-09-20 12:42:36
24.   Jeb
Typical low class orioles throwing at Jeter.
2008-09-20 12:43:29
25.   thelarmis
let's go Big G!!!
2008-09-20 12:44:24
26.   thelarmis
24 was it bad? pete abe said left arm and he left the game. he better be able to play tomorrow! hoping he has a huge game...
2008-09-20 12:47:18
27.   randym77
26 I think it was bad. Hit him square on the hand. Jeter threw his helmet as he went down the tunnel.

But I don't think they were intentionally throwing at him. They were pitching him inside, as they often do with Jeter. It would have hit him in the arm, I think, but he pulled back to avoid being hit, and it got his hand.

2008-09-20 12:50:59
28.   Knuckles
Friggin beautiful swing, Robbie.
Wish we'd seen more of that this year.
Nice win.
2008-09-20 12:51:09
29.   thelarmis
27 ah, shit! not the hand again...noooo : (

i sure hope he's okay to play tomorrow...

2008-09-20 12:52:01
30.   thelarmis
robbie with a game winning single to center! now, win again tomorrow. thank you, please!
2008-09-20 12:52:33
31.   williamnyy23
It's nice to see Cano have some very good moments at the end of the year.

Also, that AB by Giambi is why I am looking forward to not having him in the middle of the lineup of next season.

Hopefully, tomorrow Jeter will play and get three hits; Arod will homer; Andy will get the win; and Mo will save the game.

2008-09-20 12:54:29
32.   randym77
29 Me, too. He seemed pretty upset, which is why I think it might be bad.
2008-09-20 12:57:05
33.   rbj
Wow, that sucks about Jeter, but I imagine he'll get on the field, even if it's just for the top of the ninth as Mo closes it out.

Nice win. Wish I could have seen it. Not that I'm mad at Fox and Selig.

2008-09-20 13:02:03
34.   williamnyy23
I hope it's not in an everyday role, but Brett Gardner should have a role on next year's team. His defense is very good and his nearly an automatic stolen base. I'd rather carry his bat than a third catcher or Morgan Ensberg type.
2008-09-20 13:16:01
35.   williamnyy23
Jeter's X-rays were negative.
2008-09-20 13:30:46
36.   ms october
3 yeah why extra innings couldn't give us this game is crap. and last night they gave us the masn broadcast instead of yes.

i was thinking oh good no daniel cabrera, jeter's hands are safe but scanning through the game thread sounds like he got plunked hard. certainly echo everyone else's thoughts that he can play tomorrow.

sounds like robbie is doing well - am a bit surprised they changed his stance already - but if it is working, who am i to question.

2008-09-20 13:35:30
37.   thelarmis
35 great news! i'm sure he'll be sore as hell and in pain tomorrow though...
2008-09-20 14:13:45
38.   thelarmis
per pete abe:

Jeter: "I'm playing tomorrow"

X-rays were negative on Derek Jeter's left hand. In what for him was unusual, he admitted that it hurts. But Jeter said he would be playing tomorrow night. He left the Stadium with his hand wrapped in a compression bandage to keep the swelling down.

Jeter was hit on roughly the same spot he was on May 20 by Daniel Cabrera. Some believe he may have broken a bone and kept playing but that has never been confirmed.

2008-09-20 14:53:29
39.   JL25and3
It's silly to think that Miller was throwing at Jeter. Why would he want to put the leadoff hitter on base in a 0-0 game?

I was there today, and I was shocked at how many empty seats there were in the Stadium.

I was also not terribly impressed with young Mr. Aceves. The numbers look better than the pitching did.

34 I agree. I'm liking him more and more as a fourth outfielder. Now if they just had a real center fielder...

2008-09-20 15:20:19
40.   rbj
Congrats to the Cubs. First the Red Sox, then the White Sox, could the Cubbies herald in the End Times?
2008-09-20 15:26:54
41.   Chyll Will
39 Yes it is silly, but then someone over there is doing a terrible job with the pitchers or they simply have a lot of terrible pitchers that should not be in the majors, period. Even Girardi says that this kind of thing seems to happen more often with Baltimore than any other team. And especially when the Yanks are playing well. This lighting struck a little too close to the first spot for me to not be a little concerned.
2008-09-20 15:37:42
42.   Schteeve
In this thread, we have people advocating a role for the following players on next years team:

1) Giambi
2) Matsui
3) JD
4) Gardner
5) Abreu

So basically, we want the same team back?

2008-09-20 15:40:25
43.   Schteeve
39 Maybe you need to manage expectations of Aceves, he's not an ace, and nobody to my knowledge has served him up as such. But he's a really good looking #5 starter. And I would pee my pants in delight if Hughes or IPK had had a start like this even once this year.
2008-09-20 16:29:04
44.   ny2ca2dc
Cano's new swing is really a lot different - no big load up, small leg kick. Seems like vintage Kevin Long for sure (recall Long working with ARod to get his leg down quick). Hope it works!
2008-09-20 16:29:38
45.   OldYanksFan
42 What happens when our defense is solid (and Brett and Cano actually are good), Jeter leads with the bat, Cano hits, and Bobby and JD are solid? We play .700 ball. And this is with ARod slumping and adding NOTHING.

This is not a terrible team. This is an older but solid team that grossly underperformed and had key injuries. The worst offenders? The kids. Not the old guys... but Melky, Cano, Hughes and IPK.

I don't necessarily wan the same guys back, but I don't just want to dump them, but have them replaced with better players.

Giambi - Unfortunately, we don't know if Posada can catch. This is a HUGE problem, as it may keep us from getting a full time 1Bman and DH. If the Yankees decide NOT to get Tex, then ONE year of Giambi MIGHT make sense. Again, it depends on what another 1Bman will cost... in terms of contract length. At worst, Giambi is simply a ONE YEAR stopgap.

Matsui - I like Mats, but I think he has the least value to the Yanks, as I'm not sure if he is anything but a DH, and his contract (1/$13) actually makes him decent trade bait. However, if we keep Matsui, At worst, he is simply a ONE YEAR stopgap.

JD - We got 3 good years from JD. It seems we should quit while we're ahead. But again, is Dunn (no field, no run) that much better? Can we get Holliday or someone more attractive? Also, JD does NOT have a NT clause, and at 1/$13, could be traded at any time. At worst, he is simply a ONE YEAR stopgap.

Gardner - He ain't gonna bring anything worthwhile in trade, so he is simply, hopefully, a bit player. However, with his speed and D, if he can hit .250, he actually becomes somewhat valuable as a 4th OFer.

Bobby - It's too bad his D is so horrid as Bobby still does many things well. He is NOT the impact player of a few years ago, but he is still a solid, dependable player. People like Nady, but I think Bobby is still a better all-around player then the X-man. However, since JD and Mats are definitely gone after 2009, is 2/$27 reasonable for Bobby?

I am NOT advocating keeping any of the 4 vets. I am simply against a knee-jerk reaction to dumping them. There are many older, non-athletic vets still playing the game and contributing to their teams. You don't build a future from these guys, but 1 or 2 more years may not be a bad idea.

This will be a difficult winter for Cashman. This was NOT a one-and-done rebuilding year, but just the start of it. But maybe more then these guys, it will be Phil, Coke, AA, IPK, Humberto, Bruney, Melancon and other kids that determine how good a team we will have.

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