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Fat and Skinny works in comedy partnerships: Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello, Siskel and Ebert. The Yankees didn't get the memo when they hired Charlie Steiner to work with John Sterling--it was like Hardy and Hardy.
Mike and the Mad Dog have been the most successful fat and skinny radio duo in sports radio history and now, a few weeks shy of their 19th anniversary at WFAN, they are splitting up. Mike will stay at the FAN. Russo is reportedly going to Sirus.
Like them or not--I found them entertaining in measured doses--they were an institution in New York sports coverage and this is certainly the end of an era.
Here is one of the best Russo rants of them all:
The FAN won't be the same without the Angry Puppy.
Glavine proceeded to go 3-1 with a 1.95 ERA over his next six starts, and despite being shot made it to 300 wins. Good call, Puppy Russo, Good call.
Anyway, even though I rarely listened to them, I do agree it's an end of an era. They did what they did quite well, or else they wouldn't have lasted as long as they did.
Yeah, I'm fired up - fucking egos getting in the way of a truly great product.
In any case, I doubt Francesa made the decision about whether or not Russo should get a farewell show. If I ran the station, I wouldn't have done it; why give that much free advertising to a guy who's jumping ship?
They'd better find someone else who can add a little life to Francesa. By himself, he's dull, emotionless except for a constant irritation with callers.
In the bigger scheme of things, this isn't a risk that wasn't weighed b/c the Yanks have been drafting signability issue guys for quite some time and this is going to happen from time to time. Also, we get a sandwich pick as a result.
While I really don't have much respect for either's sports knowledge (especially about baseball), I agree with Alex that they were entertaining in measured doses. I don't think either was very good without the other, but for some reason, their combined deficiencies could make for good radio, especially their ability to irritate each other. I didn't listen to Francessa or Russo much lately unless there was a story that might solicit a particularly strong reaction from either. Still, I think I'll have the urge to tune in Francessa's solo act even less, and don't think I'll even look for Russo on Sirius (although he likely will get a mega pay day, Russo is forever losing the influence and prestige of presiding over a popular NY talk show). It is kind of ironic, however, that in a year the Yankees will miss the playoffs, the town's most notorious Yankee hater won't be around to gloat about it.
6 He doesn't have an offer. He was actively selling himself in the reports.
And who said he needed to jump ship? They could have set Dog up with show in a different slot. After 19 years, he deserved a final show. Francesa pulled the rug by signing the new deal while Dog was on vacation. End of story.
http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-spbest225737694jun22,0,6533007.column
This has been in the works for a few months now. They waited until the guy was on vacation to lower the hatchet. That makes Francesa a complete and utter POS. That's no surprise really.
Which is good, but a year gone by without a first-round pick isn't. It sets things back a year, or slows them down, at least in terms of high-ceiling prospects.
They pushed him before he jumped. Strictly business on both sides.
"I don't have any signed agreement with anybody else, but I'm not stupid," Russo said in a telephone interview with the Daily News on Thursday night. "I know there is something I think I can get. I do have four little children to feed."
I'd pick a root canal over listening those twits for 5 minutes.
He absolutely trashed Sprewell for wanting millions because "I got my family to feed."
17 Come on, man. That's rationalization after the fact. He had a long time to decide before his contract was up. Furthermore, he could have signed on for a short-term gig with MMD or in a separate slot. WFAN didn't push him. His tag team partner of 19 years did.
18 I'll believe it when I see it. Both XM and Sirius are hurting. It's not 2003 any more.
You all are letting your Yankee fandom get in the way of seeing how pure fat (disgusting slobs, actually) cats treating someone like shit.
22 I'm guessing he won't be hired by anyone until things settle down a bit with the recent merger. They're sure to be cleaning house soon, and I can't see them hiring any more on-air talent until that happens.
They do very good interviews, especially with retired players. They have the pull to get some big names to pick up the phone and answer questions.
It is surprising that these radio stations allow these guys to be so unaware about how baseball is changing to a more statistically analyzed game. I know you get more ratings with Mike sneering at his callers than you do talk OPS in evaluating a trade, but still...
The most painful person right now to listen to on WFAN is Boomer Esaison. He knows so little about baseball and yet he is given hours to discuss it. Though at least he knows that he knows little, so he isn't condescending as Mike Francesa is.
"I don't buy it, both Mike Moustakas and Josh Vitters pulled the same stuff last year."
Moustakas is, like Cole, a Scott Boras client. IIRC, last year, every outlet pegged the deal as not happening, but then Moustakas signed at the last minute.
I'm not too worried. Though JL, Cole was pick #28, so if he doesn't sign, the Yanks will get pick #29 next year (assuming everyone else in the 1st round signs). Given that the team may be out its 1st round pick, depending on who signs where, that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.
Nah, but I'm diehard Yankee fan, so I'm supposed to "hate" anyone who doesn't like the team? I'll have Russo over to my house any time. Francesa, I hope he chokes on a donut on air.
Now I remember why I don't read the game threads, too much hatred for my tastes.
Hey, RZG, is it the negativity in the game threads that turns you off or the cursing? Would you be as turned off if there was no cursing, or would that not make a difference?
Why you think anyone here cares enough about Russo and Francessa to take sides is odd. Who cares that Francessa is a Yankee fan...I still dislike him more than Russo. That doesn't mean we all need to weep for the Mad Dog.
Are you sure you aren't related to the Mad Dog?
No one really likes to listen to those with whom they agree anyway. Debate is a lot more fun.
Draft picks have become a very popular commodity among fans. But unless they become actual players, they're not worth so much. A year without a first-rounder - especially without a free-agent signing to show for it - isn't a good thing.
They might lose their first-round pick next year, but they're also likely to gain one or more. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me that much if they ended up with, say, two first-round picks, a third for Cole, and three sandwich picks.
That sounds great at first glance. The problem is, the picks aren't going to be great ones. The Yankees greatly increase the value of their picks by drafting high-ceiling players who drop because of signability or injury. But there's a limit to how many of those guys you're going to find in any one draft. I question how much one more at #29 will help them.
Melky (CF) leads off, I-Rod/Molina (C) hits second, Abrue (RF) hits 3rd*, Cano (2B) hits fourth, Giambi (DH) hits 5th*, Sexson (1B) hits 6th, Betemit plays 3B and hits 7th, Christian (LF) hits 8th, and Chris Basak** plays SS and hits 9th.
*Can't make it too obvious, can we? Besides, those two are playing for new contracts.
**Obviously we need some phantom injuries to help things along. So, Derek Jeter is placed on the 60-day DL with a broken heart; Basak is added to the 40-man and called up to take his place.
Johnny Damon is placed on the 60-day DL due to lingering, uh, shoulder issues, yeah! Gardner is recalled in his place.
A-Rod is placed on the 60-day DL with a bruised ego; Cody Ransom takes his place.
Xavier Nady is placed on the 15-day DL with flu-like symptoms and Shelley Duncan is recalled from AAA.
OK, who wants to handle the pitching staff?
Chris knows .... ummm ... some NFL.
The only person I listen to on the FAN is Steve Somers.
I think you'd have to sign Mussina to a two-year extension right away. Otherwise he won't go along with it, and he might well spill the beans.
You also might have to release Pettitte. But there are grounds for that - did you realize that he used HGH? I'm shocked, shocked!
Then move Joba back to the bullpen, and the rest of the pitching should take care of itself.
41 Right, they "mutually agreed" when they were going to fire his ass, while he was on vacation, pay him the rest of his salary, and make him sit without a job for the next 12 months. That would have done his career a lot of good.
It's not hard to read between the lines here. Those lines are:
1. Francesa just got a new contract.
2. They announced it while Chris was on vacation.
3. Chris's contract still had a year left.
4. The fat POS is explaining why there will be no farewell show.
5. Two months ago Russo was completely taken off guard by the rumor of a breakup while Francesa gave a tidy "No Comment".
It's obvious what happened, unless you decide to turn a blind eye. It might be "business" but it's a horrible way to treat someone after 19 years. /end rant
If so, brilliant! ;-)
Did they answer:
1) When was the decision made to extend Francesa's contract?
2) Was there a simultaneous decision to end MMD?
3) When did Russo find out? Before or during his vacation?
4) Was Russo involved in simultaneous negotiations?
5) Was Russo given a chance to stay with WFAN through the end of his contract in an alternative slot?
6) Who's decision was it to forgo a goodbye show?
So Chris calls in, after a goodbye segment run by the POS, but a goodbye show was out of the question? I smell a lot of phoniness and you guys are very gullible for buying into the spin and staging.
Of course, Chris is going to say "Yeah, they were the best of times...blah, blah, blah." The fact is this has been planned for two months, if not more. And somehow the only one still standing, and without a contract in hand is Russo. I hope he lands on his feet, but after 19 years you'd expect better.
Wow.
It was great radio, at its best, and nothing more. Still, that's no way to treat someone.
[rimshot]
Futhermore, I was at Saratoga when Francesca's horse came in dead last, and I saw Russo sneaking around the stalls earlier that morning with a vodka soaked carrot. I'm not saying that Francesca's horse looked drunk in that race, but he was weaving in the clubhouse turn, and at one point was running BACKWARDS down the backstretch. I suppose you'll say that is just a coincidence, or that it is Francesca's fault for having a boozing horse.
So before you make wild baseless accusations, consider those cold hard facts. Then I think you can draw your own conclusions.
Now, can we get back to the real purpose of this blog? I'm dying to analyze some ponderous and esoteric baseball literature.
Perhaps I'm not as emotional as others but if I were to enter a room at a party and heard this ranting it wouldn't make me interested enough to engage others in conversation, I'd be more inclined to leave.
That's what I do, I enjoy reading the postings here but don't have the inclination or time to read comments more than 100 because by then it's usually reached "Oh, Yeah? Yeah! And your mother" levels by then.
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