Also, did anyone notice that Jeff Karstens shut down the Cubs the other day?

6.0IP 5 H 0 R 4 BB 2 K

The guy never got a chance to show he was better than Rasner or Sidney Ponson. I think he's a capable 4th or 5th starter, but having Nady is a good thing too.

1) Jeter has a full no-trade clause which he has no reason to waive... although if there's any team he might waive it for, it's the Torre-led Dodgers.

2) If the Dodgers didn't give up Matt Kemp to get Manny Ramirez, thy weren't going to give him up to get Derek Jeter. I think Andy LaRoche and Andre Eithier might have been more likely, unless it were a three-way deal and the Yankees would just get Jason Bay.

3) Even in a decline in 2008, Jeter is still among the league leaders in Runs Created. He's not in the top pack anymore (Reyes and Ramiriez are well ahead of everyone else), but he's not in Melky Cabrera territory either. Relative value is important.

2 yeah scaryflyball guy was going to have a tough time in the al much less the al east

4 i guess it is an interesting thought exercise - but as mark jackson would say, steve goldman you are better than that. they are both big names who make a lot of money and whose skills aren't what they were - otheriwse the comparison is so far off it is just a huge reach.

gotta hope for a let down from lackey after his near no-hitter at fenway.

Friday night, the trivia question was which Angels starting pitcher had most wins at Yankee Stadium. I missed the answer. Did anybody hear the answer? Thanks.

Last 7 days_: .192 .222 .269
Last 14 days: .245 .275 .306
Last 28 days: .235 .253 .318

He needs to get sent down. They're killing whatever chance he had of learning and developing.

Last 365 days: .247 .300 .350

I'm hoping the same thing will happen to the Angels -- yes, they beat us down on Thursday, but two days in a row now, they've had nothing, and I want it to continue. Of course, if our bats don't do anything, it's a moot (mute) point.

INAUSPICIOUS

now, you can argue whether the poisoning of the relationship was organic or orchestrated by management (or a little of both, probably), but in each situation there has been a souring of the player's relationship with the team and fans, which cushioned the sting of the trade.

unless the yankees wanted to create a smear campaign against jeter, i don't think the situation would be similar in a very meaningful way.

Here we go, good job, JD!

I guess Jeter reads BB and knows we were all absolutely certain he would GIDP.

Still, given that a single thread on how much Melky sucks can generate over 200 comments, the quiet here over the last three days is a bit unnerving.

2006: .280 .360 .391
2007: .273 .327 .391
2008: .246 .300 .346

Not only is he not improving, he's getting worse.

But how do they send him down? I don't think Damon can play CF every day any more.

die, figgins, die!

and that's not german.

fuck you rasner.

Sigh, and I thought we might be seeing good Raz today (the one that gives up two runs early, then settles down for five innings).

I think one reason for low comment count is the two day games. Unless it's Boston, day games have fewer comments.

I feel the same about Dopey. A guy who was patient, had resonable plate judgement, and hit the other way, has turned into a guy with a big swing who swings at anything in his zip code.

The Yankees have to take some responsibility for Melky because they continue to allow him to be Dopey. He should be choking up a bit, closing his stance a bit, and looking to go the other way. His approach is going to literally have him loose his team and position, and yet the Yanks allow it to go on. I don't get it. Where the hell is the coaching staff?

Let's Go ARod!!!!!!!!!

That's a tough break.

And damn it, now they can't even score 1??? It must have been killing Cashman to be on the air while that was happening.

whenever i think i've seen the worst that this team has to offer, they manage to show me something else.

How many more games do we have against these guys? 6?

We should count ourselves lucky for having stolen (hats off, Mike!) the one yesterday and hope to take maybe one more from them down the road.

And I get the feeling that Melky isn't all that coachable. How many times has he tried to slide head-first into 1B? Surely they've told him not to do that.

Sadly, no other teams seem to be dying to have him, and we don't have a replacement lined up.

That I-Rod.

Still, I think a fair number of people are smart enough to figure out that summer weather is a better bet than Yanks-Angels. Seems like it's been that way for ten years.

Keep the line moving, Team.

One at a time.

Release him.

Send him home.

Arggggggggggghhhhhh!!!

but damnit arod would have scored too if it didn't bounce over.

Nady1!!

Braaaaaavooooooo!!!

Just as O'Neill's talking about right-centerfield.

Very, very nice.

;)

He should have swung, 'cause now it's Melky.

Well then, LET'S GO MELK!

anybody?

anyone?

crickets???

That's something.

now top of the order time.

Never mind that, HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!

He dropped the baseball!!!

That was beautiful!!!!

Beaooooooooot-iful!!!

Let's go, Jason! Stache Power, please return now!

Time to bump Jason down the lineup?

Does anyone know if Cano can pinch hit today?

Maybe. I'd prefer IPK, who's had three straight good starts in AAA.

I have a new hero.

yeah yeah yeah!

X-Cellent!

(OK, anyone know what Sterling's call actually was?)

You are a true Yankee.

Love,

The Banterites

P.S. Cashmoney -- great fucking deal to get X.

HOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

YAAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!

My man Nady!!!

David Justice, 2008 edition!!!!

(But shave the 'stache, Jase. Shave the 'stache!)

i'm wondering if taking abs away from jason to play sexson against leftys has hurt him.

Hear, hear.

Pah. Not much of an upgrade. Molina did that yesterday...

Maybe he can field but not hit?

I bet they could get Mo to play second, in a pinch. ;)

Now if we can just get Arod off the Ho-Ho's.

Okay, Edwar, relax, no problem, go get him.

Well, in an exhibition game, anyway.

Edwar is an enigma.

Completely beyond comprehension.

Where the motherfuck was Mo????

Christ Jesus.

What the FUCK just happened?

next!...

thanks, edwar.

wow ... like this one isn't going to sting

Now we get to face a bullpen that actually IS good.

Please take this opportunity to get on base for the first time in forever.

Yours,

pistolpete

Ah, now pinch run. Meh.

This whole team exasperates me.

Christian did that.

Nice job making contact, Melky.

For once, we get our share of weird shit against the Angels!

Speed kills? Jez.

Thank you. Now please let the Closer God get into this game with us AHEAD.

Very Truly yours, We are,

Members of the Bronx Banter

Is that what you were asking?

Mystique on deck...

A-Rod comes through in the clutch!!!

Man, they're trying to give us this game and yet we still only have a one-run lead.

What does that tell you?

double play ball...

no, E5!

Sweet Charitable Angles come through again!

Blech.

guess cano has to bat.

Did you guys hear (on the TBS broadcast) that the Angels lost their first game at the Stadium in '61 or '62 and Mantle homered? It would be nice to beat them in their last game here too.

Awhaaaaaa???

Marte for the ninth?

very cool!

But it might not matter...

CHONE!
I love Chone. I love him.

Great result, odd choice.

He had zero at-bats.

I wonder if that's a record? Travis?

http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/JwYu

Thanks, Travis.

Miguel Cabrera just homered off the catwalk. 5-4 Tigers, top 10.

"Xavier Clifford Nady, or Xavier VI, said he did not know much about his early ancestry, other than he pronounces his first name differently, putting a modern-day signature on a 16th-century name. Nady's father pronounces it ZAY-vee-yer -- ''That's the correct way,'' Nady said. But Nady, whose Mets teammates call him X or X-Man, prefers EX-ay-vee-yer to, ahem, exaggerate the X.

''Why not, right?'' Nady said. ''It's pretty cool.'' "

http://tinyurl.com/5g9ac6

Get well soon, Mariano.

Then there's this guy: http://tinyurl.com/6ydqmm. He's allowed to pronounce it Exavier.

Tampa would have had to put out an interesting defense had it gone to the 11th. They had no bench players left, and of the players left in the lineup, the only one who had played shortstop in the majors was B.J. Upton.

Gossage used to say that a W usually meant that he didn't do his job. He's probably not saying that anymore, though.

So Veras qualified, but not Giese, if I understand the rules correctly.

The "most effective" rule is only when the starting pitcher doesn't complete 5 but leaves with a lead that's never relinquished - when he would qualify for the win except for the IP. That rule doesn't apply here.

A separate rule says that a reliever "who is ineffective in a brief appearance" can be denied the W. But a comment basically defines "brief" as less than an inning; and, as you say, it would have to go to a succeeding pitcher in any case.