Baseball Toaster Bronx Banter
The All-Star Game: 2008
2008-07-15 14:50
by Cliff Corcoran

The NL has the better lineup and the roster that better represents the best of their league, but they haven't won one of these things since 1996, when the AL was shutout by a nonet of pitchers that included Mark Wohlers, Steve Trachsel, and Phillies closer Ricky Bottalico, and they won't get last licks tonight.

The NL has had some turnover in its roster since it was first announced. In addition to Corey Hart, who was added via the Final Vote, David Wright, who finished second in that voting, replaces the injured Alfonso Soriano, and Carlos Marmol replaces his bullpen-mate Kerry Wood, who developed blister on his right index finger last weekend. What's more, today there have been reports that the Giants sophomore sensation Tim Lincecum, my pick to start for the NL squad, fell ill with the flu yesterday and may not even make it to the Stadium. The only roster issue for the ALers was the injured David Ortiz being replaced by Final Vote winner Evan Longoria.

Here are the lineups:

American League

RF - Ichiro Suzuki (L)
SS - Derek Jeter (R)
CF - Josh Hamilton (L)
3B - Alex Rodriguez (R)
LF - Manny Ramirez (R)
DH - Milton Bradley (S)
1B - Kevin Youkilis (R)
C - Joe Mauer (L)
2B - Dustin Pedroia (R)

P - Cliff Lee (L)

National League

SS - Hanely Ramirez (R)
2B - Chase Utley (L)
1B - Lance Berkman (S)
DH - Albert Pujols (R)
3B - Chipper Jones (S)
RF - Matt Holliday (R)
LF - Ryan Braun (R)
CF - Kosuke Fukudome (L)
C - Geovany Soto (R)

P - Ben Sheets (R)

In lieu of FOX's Zelaskoed pre-game coverage, check our man Alex's write up on the Stadium over at, and let's all hope this won't be the last night they break the bunting out at the old yard.

More fun: Paul Lukas on All-Star Game uniform shenanigans, including several of those mentioned in my 1977 game recap earlier today.

Comments (452)
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2008-07-15 15:36:38
1.   Eric Enders
I guess it's going to be a low-scoring game if there will be bunting.
2008-07-15 16:14:07
2.   Cliff Corcoran
1 I contemplated diffusing that pun in my post, but gave up.
2008-07-15 16:29:38
3.   dianagramr

Will they throw out the baby bunting with the bathwater?

2008-07-15 16:30:55
4.   dianagramr
I'm sure Sweet Lou is thrilled to have his over-taxed Marmol replace his blistered Wood on the roster.
2008-07-15 16:56:53
5.   Cliff Corcoran
4 Lou's the one who overtaxed him in the first place . . .
2008-07-15 17:04:44
6.   Simone
The Yankee fans cheered Soriano and booed David Wright. Hysterical.
2008-07-15 17:06:26
7.   Simone
LOL! They booed the hell out of the Red Sox players.
2008-07-15 17:08:57
8.   dianagramr
Billy Wagner didn't even try to acknowledge the crowd.
2008-07-15 17:13:17
9.   bartap74
Boggs in a Yankee cap?
2008-07-15 17:14:16
10.   dianagramr
Where is Tom Seaver?
2008-07-15 17:14:36
11.   3rd gen yankee fan
Damned shame about Lincecum.
2008-07-15 17:15:35
12.   Bluebleeder87
I don't wanna sound like a jerk but I hope we beat you guys (the AL) enough already...
2008-07-15 17:18:27
13.   Bluebleeder87

can you explain?

2008-07-15 17:20:02
14.   3rd gen yankee fan
13 He's got the flu, was hospitalized, apparently won't be at the game.
2008-07-15 17:21:27
15.   bartap74
I was wondering where Rickey Henderson was and then I realized, he may not be quite retired yet.
2008-07-15 17:23:09
16.   Zack
Is it just me or are Fox's acoustics really soft tonight? Is it that nobody is really cheering, or that I just can't hear it?
2008-07-15 17:24:34
17.   bartap74
Winfield was my favorite player growing up. I haven't really had one since. It makes me sad that he's wearing a Padres cap (and that the Yankees didn't follow up on Dave Winfield day and retire #31).
2008-07-15 17:24:59
18.   Simone
I know it is sappy, but the music, the legends of the game, and the current generation is very moving.
2008-07-15 17:25:58
19.   bartap74
no Yogi?
2008-07-15 17:26:21
20.   bartap74
oh, they're just out of order. Nm.
2008-07-15 17:28:06
21.   dianagramr
No Tom Seaver ...
2008-07-15 17:30:22
22.   dianagramr
The Mohegan Sun song parody commercials are SOOOOOOO bad!
2008-07-15 17:30:56
23.   dianagramr
No moment of silence for Bobby Murcer? :-(
2008-07-15 17:31:18
24.   Bluebleeder87

thanks. I actually just read the linked piece.

"flue like symptoms" huh... ;o)

2008-07-15 17:31:24
25.   cult of basebaal
anyone else catch how much that ovation meant to yogi? he was kinda stunned by it, you could see him say, "boy ... that's really something"

that introduction ceremony was nice, if only to see so many great players ... and to see so many of them get such great acclaim from the crowd.

let's hope the game is good ...

2008-07-15 17:32:50
26.   dianagramr
a photo of all those HOFers on the mound would be something I would buy ...
2008-07-15 17:34:06
27.   Simone
Wow, George has aged. Oh well, he has had a good long productive life.
2008-07-15 17:35:03
28.   dianagramr
he's crying ... and who could blame him.
2008-07-15 17:36:15
29.   cult of basebaal
28 hell, i'm crying ...
2008-07-15 17:36:49
30.   dianagramr
It says something about the state of our country that we have a stealth fighter flying overhead .... :-(
2008-07-15 17:36:54
31.   Simone
When you think of what a mess the Yankees were when George bought the Yankees, it is amazing what the empire he built over the years.
2008-07-15 17:37:22
32.   Just fair
clap clap clap clap clap clap clap
2008-07-15 17:37:51
33.   Simone
30 I was thinking the same thing.
2008-07-15 17:39:25
34.   dianagramr

True .... but will the "common fan" be able to get into the new Stadium .... (vis a vis the ticket prices)?

But yeah .... they sure are a well-run machine.

2008-07-15 17:43:08
35.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
30 agreed, you have to ignore a lot of that nonsense to enjoy the game..
2008-07-15 17:46:07
36.   Alex Belth
That was a truly memorable and bizzare site, seeing Steinbrenner carted out, blubbering his eyes out. Talk about humility. Who would have thought with him Lording over the team, dominating the franchise for so many years, that it would come to this. "He's a bully," says my wife, "they are prickly pears but soft on the inside."

I mean, is it wrong if I say he reminded me of Peter Boyle in Young Frankenstein, balling his eyes out as they made their way to the plate.

It was very well orchestrated through. They wisked George the f* out of there with the quickness too.

I thought the whole ceremony was nicely done. Imagine, Yankee Stadium is probably the only place in the world where you can follow Hank Aaron with Reggie Jackson and get away with it. The fact that they saved Yogi for last was great, and he had a terrific reaction when the roar when up for him, he jumped back, startled. Unfortunately, the camera cut away from him and lost most of the reaction.

Still, amazing that it comes to this for the Boss. Well, he got his moment of grace I suppose. He built a winner and was able to see it off in a fashion that is suiting to his legacy. It was actually classy. Blubbering and demntia and imperfect and human and all.

2008-07-15 17:47:39
37.   dianagramr

I really wanted a moment of silence for Murcer .... :-(

2008-07-15 17:49:08
38.   dianagramr

didja happen to notice that the baseballs were in a plain manila envelope? I found the "commonness" of it interesting ...

2008-07-15 17:49:48
39.   cult of basebaal
36 you know who really reminds me of peter boyle in young frankenstein??? jesse ventura. caught him last night on larry king, crazy weird resemblance ...
2008-07-15 17:55:46
40.   bartap74
Given the choice, I'd take the NL lineup any day.
2008-07-15 18:01:46
41.   Simone
36 Definitely an unforgettable moment for Yankee fans. George may not make it to the new Stadium.
2008-07-15 18:04:09
42.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
41 not watching here, is Big Stein really that fragile now??? wow..just hard to imagine...
2008-07-15 18:05:13
43.   OldYanksFan
That is one great commercial.
2008-07-15 18:11:34
44.   dianagramr

which one?

2008-07-15 18:14:22
45.   OldYanksFan
The ballgirl climbing the wall to catch the flyball.
2008-07-15 18:20:22
46.   OldYanksFan
A funny line from a Lohud commenter:
"Do you think Joe Buck can leave in the 7th inning and not come back?
It would be a great tribute to Scooter."
2008-07-15 18:29:58
47.   Simone
Awww, Yogi. I loved when he kissed George. I'm so glad that George apologized and they made their peace.
2008-07-15 18:32:30
48.   Bruce Markusen
How could they not do something for Bobby Murcer? The man was a five-time All-Star himself, a franchise icon of the 1970s, and a remarkably popular player. The Yankees should have insisted on a moment to acknowledge his passing.

Well, maybe they'll do something in mid-game.

2008-07-15 18:32:50
49.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
46 fantastic..i remember once my dad made us leave early to "beat the rain and traffic". me and my sisters were going nuts in the car, then looked over and saw Scooter in the next car. we all started waving and yelling till he noticed us and gave us the thumbs up..
2008-07-15 18:33:41
50.   OldYanksFan
OK... who's gonna say it?
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2008-07-15 18:34:09
51.   Just fair
A-Rod pops up with a man on 2nd, Jeter with the DP. I thought this was a break from the regular season. : )
2008-07-15 18:39:48
52.   dianagramr
I'm sure Hal and Hank are steaming over seeing Mo giving Halladay and Kazmir pointers on the cutter! :-)
2008-07-15 18:40:22
53.   bartap74
Pujols was clearly safe on the replay.
2008-07-15 18:40:35
54.   OldYanksFan
Yup... that Ichiro is getting old.
2008-07-15 18:49:07
55.   weeping for brunnhilde
One makes an error, the other gets picked off.

Those two deserve each other.

2008-07-15 18:50:21
56.   weeping for brunnhilde
51 Bah!

For a short time I'd put the regular season out of my mind, swept up in the lovefest.


2008-07-15 18:57:27
57.   OldYanksFan
Francona is a classy guy in a lot of ways.
2008-07-15 18:59:02
58.   OldYanksFan
Is that amazing that the original stadium was built in under 300 days? I mean, what kind of construction equiptment did they have back then? The workers must have been bustin ass!
2008-07-15 18:59:46
59.   bartap74
It just occurred to me - Johan Santana didn't make the cut for the All-Star team?
2008-07-15 19:03:31
60.   OldYanksFan
59 Well, he's tied for 4th/5th in ERA in the NL, but Shea is a pretty extreme pitchers park, so he probably rates worse in ERA+.
2008-07-15 19:12:17
61.   OldYanksFan
Is William at the game tonight?
2008-07-15 19:17:56
62.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
how did the run score?
2008-07-15 19:18:13
63.   bartap74
61 If so, he's probably complaining about his seats.
2008-07-15 19:18:36
64.   bartap74
62 Solo shot by Matt Holliday off Ervin Santana.
2008-07-15 19:24:14
65.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
63 bada-bing! YOU are correct, Sir!
2008-07-15 19:47:53
66.   OldYanksFan
That was nice by Josh. The Kate Smith version is an embarassment. With so much talent in NY, if they HAVE to do the song, why not have different artists do it everynight. Is there a reason the Yankees have to do it in such a way that people are sick to death of it?
2008-07-15 19:55:45
67.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
66 or how about a less odious song? "America the Beautiful" by Ray Charles would do nicely
2008-07-15 19:58:49
68.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Paps is in! what was the crowd reaction?
(and man, it's kind of lonely here today..67 comments??)
2008-07-15 20:00:55
69.   3rd gen yankee fan
Chanting MA-RI-A-NO and booing the hell out of Pimplefreak.
2008-07-15 20:02:37
70.   3rd gen yankee fan
They also chanted OV-ER-RA-TED at Paps. LMAO!
2008-07-15 20:04:26
71.   Raf
Arrived in time to see Drew tie the game... Also means I saw Paps give up the lead
2008-07-15 20:06:16
72.   Alex Belth
Only in New York. They booed the sh** out of Paps who gave up a bloop hit, allowed a stolen base, a throwing error by the catcher got him to third and a sac fly brought him home.

Only in NY would the fans want Paps to blow the game to spite the AL home field advantage...LOL

2008-07-15 20:13:46
73.   Shaun P
Not really his fault, but Papelblah blowing the lead isn't a surprise . . . Francona ought to know better. His boy just isn't the same on the road (4.08 ERA) vs at home (1.17 ERA).

C'mon ALers, gotta get a lead here to go to Mo!

Or perhaps Francona goes to Mo anyway?

Oh good - its Billy Wagner! This lead should change hands any moment now. ;)

2008-07-15 20:17:07
74.   dodgerforlife32
where is tom seaver and nolan ryan?
2008-07-15 20:18:53
75.   Shaun P
C'mon Longoria, good eye, good eye!
2008-07-15 20:20:50
76.   weeping for brunnhilde
All right!

Here comes our boy!

(I'd presume.)

2008-07-15 20:20:57
77.   Shaun P
OK, not quite a lead change, but we'll take it. Nice job, Longoria.
2008-07-15 20:23:22
78.   Shaun P
76 I don't know weeping . . . tie game, maybe Tito goes to Soria and lets Mo get the last out; that way if the AL doesn't win it in the bottom of the 9th, Mo could pitch the 10th?

Its tough because I want to see Mo pitch, but I'd prefer he gets the last out too. Can't have it all.

2008-07-15 20:23:54
79.   Shaun P
Or K-Rod. Tito could go to K-Rod (forgot about him).
2008-07-15 20:26:42
80.   Just fair
The Red Sox and Rays contingent making it interesting. Drew's homer + Papelbon pitching + Navarro's throwing error + Longoria's 2 out game tying hit = an entertaining game. Oh, and Wagner melts again in a key spot.
2008-07-15 20:27:23
81.   3rd gen yankee fan
2008-07-15 20:28:21
82.   Shaun P
Damn you FOX, why did you cut away BEFORE Mo made it to the mound?! ARGH!

I wonder if Mo ever gets tired of making his way out to the mound. Nah.

2008-07-15 20:28:21
83.   OldYanksFan
JESUS! Fox cuts to a commercial as Mo comes in to a standing O? What jerks.
2008-07-15 20:28:40
84.   dodgerforlife32
does any1 know why seaver and ryan where not introduced with the HOF pitchers tonite?
2008-07-15 20:28:59
85.   dodgerforlife32
here comes rivera to blow it!!!
2008-07-15 20:29:02
86.   Shaun P
Anyone have an e-mail address for Fox Sports handy? I've got a nasty e-mail I'd like to send their way.
2008-07-15 20:29:44
87.   weeping for brunnhilde
You know, I've been watching Mo as long as we all have, but somehow, I'm finding new depths of love and appreciation for the man every day.

I don't know why. Maybe it's because his career is closer to the end than the beginning.

Whatever the reason, I just can't quite come to terms with how special he is.

2008-07-15 20:30:56
88.   dodgerforlife32
ulove mo.


2008-07-15 20:31:17
89.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
86 there is nothing you can do, the coverage gets worse and worse..i miss WPIX Ch.11 in the old days, simple graphics, White, Messer and Scooter..
2008-07-15 20:31:19
90.   Shaun P
84 My guess is they weren't available for whatever reason. Joe Morgan's absence is more glaring, AFAIC, seeing he was just there last night.

85 I think you've got the wrong blog, friend.

2008-07-15 20:32:35
91.   weeping for brunnhilde
Mariano Rivera, ladies and gentlemen.

Mariano Rivera.

2008-07-15 20:33:12
92.   Shaun P
91 There is no other.

Now we just need a run . . .

2008-07-15 20:33:32
93.   tommyl
Did anyone else just realize that battery could have been ours? We could be watching River to Navarro every night. Sigh. Was Randy Johnson really worth it?
2008-07-15 20:33:32
94.   dodgerforlife32
No, I hate the yanks, but, I gotta say, classic mo there at the looks like it's gonna b 12 in a row coming up
2008-07-15 20:33:50
95.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
88 hey Dodger boy, leave the schoolyard commentary at one makes fun of Mo around here and lives another day
2008-07-15 20:35:16
96.   3rd gen yankee fan
93 Yeah, I've been rueing that trade for the past few months...
2008-07-15 20:35:20
97.   bobtaco
93 I did.
2008-07-15 20:36:00
98.   dodgerforlife32
not making fun of mo; making fun of the queer in love with him...
2008-07-15 20:36:25
99.   thinkblue88
Dude, show some respect not only for Bronx Banter and Dodger Thoughts, but for all the great writers and reader here at Baseball Toaster.
2008-07-15 20:36:29
100.   OldYanksFan
That was a great pick and tag by Kinsler.
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2008-07-15 20:37:14
101.   thinkblue88
2008-07-15 20:37:38
102.   weeping for brunnhilde
Here's the thing, don't laugh: I'm actually a little bit disappointed because he got a swing and miss.

I so much prefer when he paints the outside corner. Anything short is all well and good, but not quite what I'm looking forward to.

I'm crazy, I know.

2008-07-15 20:38:06
103.   Shaun P
93 Can't win 'em all.

Who knows? If Navarro had never been traded, maybe he doesn't develop as he has, because he's left rotting on the bench in the bigs, never getting regular playing time . . .

Not a knock on Torre, BTW, just recognizing that Posada has been a lineup mainstay.

2008-07-15 20:38:19
104.   dianagramr
Dioner is going yard here ....
2008-07-15 20:38:26
105.   dodgerforlife32
ok, my apologies; it was just too cheesy to pass up. Nevertheless I will withhold further comments (unless there is another set up like that one)
2008-07-15 20:38:48
106.   tommyl
96 97 Good thing we have Chad Moeller, Jose Molina and what's left of Jorge Posada's right arm to tide us over, sigh. Man, think how much better we'd be with Navarro getting the torch passed to him by Jorge right now. Then Jorge could DH, Dioner could be the C and that's one less OBP black hole in the lineup.

BTW, that shot of Mo's cutter that started at his release point and followed it in slo mo in was sick. That thing took a freakin' right turn at the last second. Should have put on its directionals.

Lastly, I know it will never happen, but man, I'd love to have Josh Hamilton on this team. That kid is going to be a monster.

2008-07-15 20:39:07
107.   weeping for brunnhilde
What the fuck is that shit he does with his glove?
2008-07-15 20:39:23
108.   Shaun P
98 You're not helping yourself. Oh Ken . . .
2008-07-15 20:40:16
109.   dodgerforlife32
navarro esta cagado hoy!
2008-07-15 20:41:06
110.   dianagramr

you know those that are so focused on those types of things are usually the ones with thier own hangups ...

2008-07-15 20:42:06
111.   dodgerforlife32
my opinion is that, as long as there is $$$, anything is possible; especially seeing how NY fans loved hamilton yesterday; I think the steinbrenners def noticed that...
2008-07-15 20:42:17
112.   Just fair
107 It's the "Nomar Shuffle."
2008-07-15 20:42:42
113.   dodgerforlife32
yes! NL has a chance after all!!!
2008-07-15 20:43:08
114.   Shaun P
Aye aye aye - Ryan Dempster?!

And Scott "100 pitches in 5 innings" Kazmir is the only AL starter left. Yikes.

2008-07-15 20:43:15
115.   tommyl
103 True, but I'd amend Cash's you can never have enough pitching doctrine to include premier defensive positions. If you have a good catching , SS or CF prospects you have to hang on to them. You might be able to go out and find a LF but finding a premier C is next to impossible. There are pretty much exactly zero available every year.
2008-07-15 20:44:52
116.   dodgerforlife32
I feel AL's done this inning...
2008-07-15 20:45:06
117.   OldYanksFan
106 Plus I don't think we would have given Po a 4 year contract. 3 yes. But having no Catching put us in a spot where Po could squeeze a bit.
2008-07-15 20:45:28
118.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
what exactly did Chase Utley say yesterday that was on mike?? read he dropped an F-bomb, but in what way?
2008-07-15 20:48:07
119.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ha ha hah aha ha h !!!

That's what I'm talking about!!!!

Christ, it never gets old.

2008-07-15 20:48:27
120.   dodgerforlife32
any one with a 3-2 count, advantage: Rivera
2008-07-15 20:49:38
121.   Knuckles
Mo, whattaya doing showing Halladay a pitch?!?!
2008-07-15 20:49:45
122.   Shaun P
118 The fans booed him during the Home Run Derby introductions - he is a Philly, and they are up on the Mets, and it is NYC - and so, on live TV, on mike, he dropped the f-bomb in response.
2008-07-15 20:50:54
123.   tommyl
119 It is a thing of pure beauty. He's so good, just soooo good.
2008-07-15 20:50:59
124.   Knuckles
And now Girardi joking with Varitek?!?!

Cats and dogs, lying together!
Worlds collide, Jerry! Worlds collide!

2008-07-15 20:51:01
125.   weeping for brunnhilde
NIce ab there.

I'm impressed.

2008-07-15 20:51:14
126.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
122 thanks. that's actually pretty funny..can't see why people get so upset over profanity anymore
2008-07-15 20:51:30
127.   dodgerforlife32
2008-07-15 20:51:40
128.   tommyl
121 Like it matters, we can't hit Halladay anyways. So he strikes every Yankee out with a different pitch than he does now. No difference.
2008-07-15 20:52:14
129.   dodgerforlife32
2008-07-15 20:52:33
130.   weeping for brunnhilde
Is it just me, or does Tejada always get Mo?

He's a good hitter, man.

2008-07-15 20:52:59
131.   tommyl
127 Hey, you should check out LoHud's blog on the sidebar. I think you'll really fit in there.
2008-07-15 20:53:29
132.   tommyl

Now shut up.

2008-07-15 20:53:29
133.   Just fair
Hey, turn 2 fellas.
2008-07-15 20:53:42
134.   OldYanksFan
2008-07-15 20:53:52
135.   weeping for brunnhilde
Mariano Rivera, ladies and gentlemen.

Mariano Rivera.

2008-07-15 20:53:57
136.   Raf
ok, end it here so Mo can get the win!
2008-07-15 20:54:03
137.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
131 I really like LoHud's blog but never red the comments..are they a"lowbrow" compared to the Banter?
2008-07-15 20:54:07
138.   Gagne55
Mariano gets the DP!
2008-07-15 20:54:35
139.   thelarmis

129 please leave. there is nothing constructive or positive about you. take your comments elsewhere.

2008-07-15 20:54:45
140.   dianagramr
don't these guys know that we east coast folks have to go to bed now?
2008-07-15 20:55:33
141.   3rd gen yankee fan
119 Nope, never gets old. Best thing is, he's a Yankee, and will always be a Yankee. And only we get to watch him day in and day out.
2008-07-15 20:56:17
142.   cult of basebaal
someday, when i'm old and gray (assuming our lovely civilization doesn't self destruct in the next 50 years) i'll sit on a porch, drinking my bourbon, and tell the kids of seeing the "Great Mariano", who threw the Best Pitch i've ever seen ...

"gaze upon my works, ye mighty ... and despair"

2008-07-15 20:56:57
143.   cult of basebaal
129 your bridge called, it misses you ...
2008-07-15 20:57:33
144.   Mattpat11
Lets get Mo the win
2008-07-15 20:57:39
145.   weeping for brunnhilde
Yes, yes, yes, yess!!!!

Get Mo the W!!!!!!

2008-07-15 20:58:20
146.   Just fair
Ugla. Yeesh. You almost gotta feel for the dude.
Oh well.
2008-07-15 20:58:34
147.   Raf
Yeesh, Danno... Uggla playing Ugg-lee
2008-07-15 20:58:39
148.   thelarmis
142 you have a shaved head, dude!!! ; )

how are ya, btw?!

2008-07-15 20:58:40
149.   JimCobain
Let the Ugla puns begin.

And let's all hail the Great Mariano!

2008-07-15 20:58:41
150.   3rd gen yankee fan
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2008-07-15 20:59:59
151.   OldYanksFan
I want to win, but I hate to see a guy be the goat. Tough night for Dan U.
2008-07-15 21:00:48
152.   Mattpat11
I'm voting for MVP Mo
2008-07-15 21:01:33
153.   3rd gen yankee fan
Yay all the Banter gang showing up now.
2008-07-15 21:01:38
154.   JimCobain
152 Seconded.
2008-07-15 21:01:59
155.   Eirias
152 I'm voting for MVP Wagner.
2008-07-15 21:02:34
156.   tommyl
From PeteAbe, the coolest thing ever:

11:56 p.m.: Joe Girardi caught Mo in the bullpen when he warmed up, by the way.

2008-07-15 21:02:40
157.   Eirias
155 Mo can place a nice second, though. We should ration his awesomeness.
2008-07-15 21:02:44
158.   dianagramr
Tomorrow's headline could read "Winning Uggla"
2008-07-15 21:02:54
159.   tommyl
153 Sorry, I was at the concert on the great lawn.
2008-07-15 21:03:23
160.   OldYanksFan
2008-07-15 21:03:42
161.   bartap74
You'd think All-Stars could manage a fly ball.
2008-07-15 21:03:42
162.   Raf
oh boy... c'mon guys. a squeeze woulda been awesome!
2008-07-15 21:03:43
163.   Raf
oh boy... c'mon guys. a squeeze woulda been awesome!
2008-07-15 21:03:44
164.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wait, I'm confused, are we watching the Yankees or the AL All Stars?
2008-07-15 21:03:46
165.   cult of basebaal
calling this right now ... mo gets the win, yanks make the playoffs ... if not, no joy (n.b. i wrote this with longoria up, but i'll stick with this utterly random prediction)
2008-07-15 21:04:14
166.   tommyl
Hey guys, just because you're in Yankee Stadium doesn't mean you have to hit like them with RISP.
2008-07-15 21:04:20
167.   cult of basebaal
164 quiet, you!


2008-07-15 21:04:24
168.   Eirias
Cook is impressing me. I'm easily impressed, though.
2008-07-15 21:04:28
169.   bartap74
156 They showed that on Fox. He caused someone else earlier in the game too.
2008-07-15 21:04:43
170.   cult of basebaal
165 well, that sucks.
2008-07-15 21:04:47
171.   weeping for brunnhilde
Tejada is a great baseball player, on both sides of the baseball.

Damn it.

2008-07-15 21:05:24
172.   Mattpat11
Eh. If Morneau would have won the game he would have won the NL Manager of the Year award on top of the AL MVP and Cy Young's he locked up last night
2008-07-15 21:05:37
173.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
wish i was watching this live!!
btw, did Al Leiter really make that atheist crack live on tv?? what a dweeb..
2008-07-15 21:05:56
174.   Mattpat11
171 Maybe ten years ago.
2008-07-15 21:05:59
175.   cult of basebaal
171 he's no miguel cairo!


you've been sparse around here this year ... pity.

2008-07-15 21:06:00
176.   Eirias
170 Thanks for booting the Yanks from the playoffs. Now we know whose door to show up at (pitchforks in hand).
2008-07-15 21:06:09
177.   Just fair
So.....there are other teams that can't score with no outs and a guy on third (or the bases loaded for that matter). Bollocks.
2008-07-15 21:06:10
178.   tommyl
171 Course he is. He's older than all the other kids ;)
2008-07-15 21:06:45
179.   OldYanksFan
M. Tejada is the MVP so far.
I hate that the game is decided by the 2nd and 3rd string. Still great players, but the starters should be in the game a minimum of 5 innings,
2008-07-15 21:06:45
180.   bobtaco
So Soria and Sherrill now?
2008-07-15 21:06:49
181.   cult of basebaal
173 al leiter??? good god, no. that was rick "pee in my cup" reilly.
2008-07-15 21:07:29
182.   dianagramr

it wasn't al leiter with that stupid comment .... it was Rick Reilly.

2008-07-15 21:07:53
183.   cult of basebaal
177 obviously a sign of the overall decline of the moral fibre of this once-great nation ... pikers, pussies and panty-waists, all.
2008-07-15 21:09:19
184.   weeping for brunnhilde
What a tease.

For five minutes there I was remembering what it was like to watch a winning baseball team. That they're in the Stadium allowed me to feel it really was my team playing the way they used to.

But no, it was all just a tease and now I remember what we have to go back to, after we all turn into pumpkins, whatever the outcome of this particular game.


2008-07-15 21:09:20
185.   cult of basebaal
176 well, you'll have to travel all the way across this great nation to do it ... and have you seen what the cost of gas is recently???
2008-07-15 21:10:22
186.   tommyl
I don't know if this has been posted already but Joe Sheehan has something close to poetry up on BP about his love for Yankee Stadium. I highly suggest it:

2008-07-15 21:10:42
187.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
181 182 thanks for clearing that up. Rick Reily..cannot understand how he gets paid so much for the drivel he writes..and now onl ive tv??
2008-07-15 21:10:59
188.   Shaun P
177 Maybe the problem isn't the Yanks, maybe its the Stadium.

The numbers with RISP tonight are just horrible - just like the Yanks!

2008-07-15 21:11:03
189.   cult of basebaal
184 see? that's the sort of cynicism that comes with being a modern democrat!


2008-07-15 21:11:40
190.   cult of basebaal
awesome ... they're playing "sunglasses at night" to introduce corey hart!
2008-07-15 21:11:42
191.   tommyl
185 We Banterites have agents everywhere, everywhere I say!
2008-07-15 21:12:45
192.   Shaun P
187 The worst part? He'll be on ESPN for years, thanks to his big contract.

186 Thanks - I missed it.

2008-07-15 21:13:12
193.   weeping for brunnhilde
189 Heh heh heh.

(I'm actually not technically a Dem, but point taken. :)

2008-07-15 21:14:37
194.   tommyl
187 This is the network who brought us "Who's Now?" You seriously have to ask why they pay Rick Reilly? I prefer to ask why they employ Keith Law and Rob Neyer since they can clearly both think clearly and parse a sentence.
2008-07-15 21:15:31
195.   weeping for brunnhilde
194 Who the hell is Rick Reilly and what did he say about atheists?
2008-07-15 21:15:38
196.   nyyfan22
finally - the ode to Bobby.
2008-07-15 21:16:15
197.   thelarmis
that was "lined"?! thanks, joe buck! i like that kinsler kid.
2008-07-15 21:16:38
198.   Shaun P
Damn, that was a heck of a commercial for the MLB Network.

And a nice tribute to Bobby Murcer too, even though (it being FOX) they cut away from the highlight.

2008-07-15 21:16:48
199.   Just fair
Someone wake up a ghost or two so they can end this puppy.
2008-07-15 21:16:49
200.   cult of basebaal
193 neither am i, but i'm basically going off seeing you post on salon ... (and frankly, if you're not a dem, wading into most threads there has got to be a bit of a slog ...)
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2008-07-15 21:16:56
201.   Raf
Nice Murcer tribute
2008-07-15 21:17:35
202.   thelarmis
199 how 'bout Murcer?! : )
2008-07-15 21:17:37
203.   cult of basebaal
200 sorta like wading into a thread here when william and mattpatt have gotten sand in their panties ...
2008-07-15 21:17:41
204.   3rd gen yankee fan
Yeah really where are the ghosts!
2008-07-15 21:17:59
205.   dianagramr

insufficient .... and way too late in the evening .... :-(

2008-07-15 21:18:45
206.   Raf
195 He was making light of Josh Hamilton finding God.
2008-07-15 21:18:59
207.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ummm...should I put on a pot of coffee or something?
2008-07-15 21:19:08
208.   tommyl
See, when there's no tag applied, the runner there is called "safe." You should look that up being a major league umpire and all.
2008-07-15 21:19:17
209.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
203 excellent..
194 yeah, i tend to skip straight to Neyer, Law, TrueHoop and Simmons' NBA columns, ignore the rest. Page 2 baseball stuff is good too though (J.Keri, Caple,etc)
2008-07-15 21:19:21
210.   cult of basebaal
oops ... what's an game in 2008 without a blown call (or 3) from the umps ...
2008-07-15 21:19:26
211.   Just fair
Man, that sucks. Never touched 'em.
2008-07-15 21:19:41
212.   thelarmis
i guess that makes up for pujols getting called out at the keystone earlier on ichiro's throw/jeters tag...
2008-07-15 21:19:44
213.   dianagramr
2nd base ump is having a bad night ....
2008-07-15 21:20:04
214.   Shaun P
195 He used to write the last one page article in SI. I don't have much use for him, personally.

Last night, while Hamilton was cracking bombs, he said, "Boy its not a good night to be an athiest!" Hamilton is a born again Christian who credits his faith as being the key to turning his life around. So Reilly was basically saying the reason Hamilton was hitting those home runs was because of God.

You know, because He would decide to give proof of His existence through a guy hitting a ball with a stick.

Kinsler was safe!!

2008-07-15 21:20:19
215.   OldYanksFan
There's your MVP.
2008-07-15 21:20:54
216.   cult of basebaal


man, you must be busy this year!

2008-07-15 21:22:06
217.   tommyl
206 Yeah, which is crass. Look, I clearly don't share the same beliefs as Josh Hamilton, but if believing what he does has given him the strength to turn his life around then good for him. So long as people don't force their belief systems on me, I don't care. Sadly, that is precisely what Reilly was doing there. It was just uncalled for and embarassing to say that, especially when Hamilton is standing there with his 70-something year old HS coach and basically being simply grateful to just be there after all he's been through. Me, I'd fire Reilly on the spot, but that's just me.
2008-07-15 21:22:22
218.   Shaun P
203 william, that lucky son of a gun, is at this game. I wonder what's been going through his mind? =)
2008-07-15 21:22:45
219.   weeping for brunnhilde
Mother of God, you have to be kidding me.
2008-07-15 21:22:52
220.   tommyl
Well Navarro certainly runs like Molina. Yeesh.
2008-07-15 21:23:31
221.   cult of basebaal
wow. nice throw. can i just refer to 25 this game is as good as the buildup to it ... sweet!
2008-07-15 21:23:46
222.   Shaun P
I think Navarro was safe. Damn.

A hit, fer cryin' out loud, a bloody hit so I can go to bed!

2008-07-15 21:24:35
223.   weeping for brunnhilde
Coffee, anyone?
2008-07-15 21:24:40
224.   3rd gen yankee fan
Man, even us central time-zone people need to go to bed...
2008-07-15 21:24:48
225.   tommyl
218 Why haven't the Yankees traded for every single AL all-star, except even if they did, they'd still suck and should give up on the season?
2008-07-15 21:25:12
226.   Mattpat11
Two horrendous calls in that inning.
2008-07-15 21:25:37
227.   thelarmis
216 man, you have NO clue how true those words are ringing. and thanking everything in the universe! i had some serious scary health issues this year. i was like a ghost of a person the first coupla months. didn't feel much like communicating. i'm getting my wheels back under me...

but, yeah, i've been busy as hell, also! tons of work the first half of this year...

damn, navarro is slow. he needed to call a cab...

2008-07-15 21:25:55
228.   OldYanksFan
Great pick by the catcher but the tag was high and late. He was safe but a tough call to see. Instant replay will make baseball a lot better.
2008-07-15 21:26:12
229.   weeping for brunnhilde
214 Ha ha ha hah aha ah ha !!
2008-07-15 21:26:20
230.   cult of basebaal
petey is on tonite ... though i'll just refer us all to this ... since i've been repeatedly reminded of it ... every cut to the AL dugout seems to catch jeter leaning over the rail and smiling ...

"Interestingly, A-Rod is long gone and Jeter has stayed in the dugout since he came out of the game."

2008-07-15 21:26:28
231.   monkeypants
218 The AL stars take the wrong approach, and the NL stars aren't trying.
2008-07-15 21:26:52
232.   Travis08
Maybe next year, they won't start the All-Star Game at 8:45 EST. Just push the pregame stuff back an hour and move it to cable if the FOX affiliates won't give up the time.
2008-07-15 21:27:29
233.   Shaun P
228 Let's hope they get around to it PDQ.

223 I don't drink it, but yeah, that would be nice. My wife is going to kill me - I told her I'd come to bed after Mo came out. Whoops.

2008-07-15 21:27:30
234.   tommyl
227 Good to have you back and glad you're feeling better!
2008-07-15 21:27:52
235.   cult of basebaal
227 shit man, i wish i'd known. i know where you're coming from more than i wish i could ... i'll shoot you an email offline!
2008-07-15 21:28:01
236.   thelarmis
i don't go to bed before 4am EST, so this is nice for me! : ) midnight is kinda like dinner time. i'm on musicians' schedule i suppose. or vampire. take yer pick...
2008-07-15 21:28:04
237.   OldYanksFan
But the game is really lost because the AL had no bench and could not pinch run.
2008-07-15 21:28:11
238.   weeping for brunnhilde
228 Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

Take it back, take it back!!!

2008-07-15 21:28:52
239.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
can't wait to watch this tonight, it's on tape delay 7pm here...
217 what is it about bad sports writing and annoucning that enthralls us so much? I never would have guessed I'd enjoy FJM so much...
2008-07-15 21:28:59
240.   Shaun P
232 The worst part is, at least some of the FOX affiliates did. Here in Boston we had the red carpet parade on from 7 to 8.

231 That'd be my guess. =)

2008-07-15 21:29:11
241.   bobtaco
232 I had to leave work at 4:45PST to catch the first pitch.
2008-07-15 21:29:40
242.   Just fair
Stretch it out, Kinsler.
2008-07-15 21:29:47
243.   Mattpat11
Morneau is putting his AL ROY award in jeopardy
2008-07-15 21:29:58
244.   dianagramr
I wonder what the Pirates would want from us for McClouth?
2008-07-15 21:31:02
245.   Mattpat11
It would be nice to see a classic Brad Lidge implosion.
2008-07-15 21:31:34
246.   thelarmis
234 thanks, tommy - i appreciate ya! : )

235 man, that sounds good! i was gonna email you too, but again, i wasn't feeling all that communicative. but that would be better as i'd rather not purge here. i'm too private and no one needs to be saddled with that. i do love the Banter family, though!!! : )

this is not looking so good... : ~

2008-07-15 21:31:49
247.   Shaun P
244 Hughes. Or Jackson.

My guess is that every GM Cashman calls asks for one or the other. Or both. (At least at first.)

I see a K in Uggla's future.

2008-07-15 21:32:11
248.   OldYanksFan
238 I would take it back but.....
2008-07-15 21:32:18
249.   tommyl
231 And somehow, its all Cashman's fault.
2008-07-15 21:32:34
250.   weeping for brunnhilde
What a preposterous, obscene fucking breaking ball.


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2008-07-15 21:33:09
251.   Shaun P
246 Keep your head above water, dude. Hope you stay well!
2008-07-15 21:33:28
252.   cult of basebaal
249 he should have planned for this contigency!!!!
2008-07-15 21:33:34
253.   weeping for brunnhilde
248 Heh heh heh heh.


2008-07-15 21:34:01
254.   Just fair
Holy Buckled-him. Uggla, you shoulda stayed in bed this morning. Thelarmis, sounds scary. Glad to hear you're better.
2008-07-15 21:34:10
255.   thelarmis
233 PDQ Bach?!
2008-07-15 21:34:44
256.   Raf
That Baby Ruth commercial never gets less annoying
2008-07-15 21:34:56
257.   monkeypants
248 What a lose-lose proposition. No instant replay means enduring more bad umpiring. Instant replay means enduring bad umpiring, reviewing all the close plays, and watching games get longer and longer.
2008-07-15 21:35:05
258.   cult of basebaal

sorry, got carried away by FOX ...

2008-07-15 21:35:27
259.   Mattpat11
252 To be fair, he would have picked Sidney Ponson and the AL would have another starter than can go deep into extra innings if need be.
2008-07-15 21:36:03
260.   cult of basebaal
233 Mr. T. Lots of Mr. T.

let's see who gets that one ...

2008-07-15 21:36:18
261.   weeping for brunnhilde
248 I'll make you a deal: I'll accept instant replay in exchange for abolishing the DH.

Fair's fair.

2008-07-15 21:36:25
262.   monkeypants
252 Meacham should be fired for sending Navarro home and risking injury.
2008-07-15 21:36:49
263.   cult of basebaal
260 grrrr. now i realize i'm to blame ... that's Letter T, Letter T ...


2008-07-15 21:37:11
264.   bobtaco
The Stadium and the Ghosts don't want this one to end
2008-07-15 21:37:31
265.   Shaun P
255 Pretty damn quick.

The only Bach I know is Johan Sebastain. Or Bachman Turner Overdrive. =)

Pete Abe says that Kazmir (and the TB org) told Francona he didn't want to pitch in this game. Uh-oh.

Nice job, Sherrill. Hope the AL scores . . .

2008-07-15 21:37:33
266.   Just fair
Hey, how about having the starters play 9 and each pitcher throw 3 if they're crusin'. Sure we don't see everybody, but this scenario would no doubt be avoided.
Hey, Sherril. Good stuff.
2008-07-15 21:37:43
267.   cult of basebaal
261 go back to your freedom hating nancy-pantsers, you anti-batist
2008-07-15 21:38:29
268.   rsmith51
Neither team wants to win...
2008-07-15 21:38:37
269.   thelarmis
251 254 thanks guys, 'preciate ya! more than you know... family, music & baseball are of the highest powers! : )

i had never heard of that reilly chump either. checked out a few things and don't like him...

nice work by sherrill...

2008-07-15 21:38:46
270.   weeping for brunnhilde
265 There's also Karl Phillip Emmanuel Bach, the brother, I think. Or no, maybe the son.
2008-07-15 21:39:06
271.   tommyl
262 The AL is done, just done for the season. If this team can't even get a runner in from third with no outs then how are they going to win at all this season? If the AL won't sign Bonds, they should just pack it in and sell off all their veterans.
2008-07-15 21:39:33
272.   Mattpat11
This game will never end
2008-07-15 21:39:36
273.   weeping for brunnhilde
267 Heh heh heh.
2008-07-15 21:39:58
274.   Raf
That's a start...
2008-07-15 21:40:10
275.   rsmith51
266 How about being able to reinsert players starting in the 11th inning?
2008-07-15 21:40:17
276.   Shaun P
261 Get off my lawn, you young whippersnapper! =)

257 Done right, instant reply should make the games shorter. Now we have a blown call, then the 1st mgr comes out to argue for 5 minutes, then the umps huddle for 5 minutes, then they change the call, then the second mgr comes out to argue for 5 minutes . . .

Finally - a fly ball! Please, please, PLEASE someone drive Guillen in!

2008-07-15 21:41:06
277.   cult of basebaal
270 screw that. there's barbara bach!
2008-07-15 21:41:11
278.   Mattpat11
Just hit it in the fucking air and end this
2008-07-15 21:41:25
279.   tommyl
277 And Sebastian Bach from Skid Row!
2008-07-15 21:41:29
280.   monkeypants
266 How about they remember that this is an exhibition game and simply change the rules to declare a tie after 12 innings. Or, if that is mortally offensive, switch to some sort of tie breaker after 12 innings--the BB version of penalty kicks or something. Maybe have a HR derby where the participants are designated beofre the game, perhaps a special roster spot.
2008-07-15 21:41:39
281.   nyyfan22
271 the entire AL should sign Bonds. Then he'll play DH in every other all star game.

the end it near...

2008-07-15 21:41:43
282.   OldYanksFan
257 I disagree. These plays could be reviewed and a call made in under a minute. They can be reviewing the play the instant it happens.
2008-07-15 21:41:59
283.   bartap74
Hey, if the game never ends, they can never close the stadium, right?
2008-07-15 21:42:11
284.   Just fair
If Meacham didn't send Wang, he could have started this game. : ) Why the hell does he still have a job anyway!
2008-07-15 21:42:30
285.   thelarmis
265 oh, silly me! PDQ Bach, is actually a fictional composer - it's musical satire. JS is THE man!!! he did have a coupla somewhat famous musical sons though - JC & CPE and a coupla others...
2008-07-15 21:43:07
286.   Mattpat11
This game will never end
2008-07-15 21:43:24
287.   Max
195 217 You have to be a bit more exposed to Reilly's pungent, old-school type "wit" to appreciate how obnoxious his remark was. I don't actually mind the occasional poke at athletes that ramp up the volume on their beliefs on TV.

But Reilly's comment ("it's a lousy night to be an atheist!") sounded like something that comes from a sociopathic acquaintance that you reluctantly bring along to a party, hoping he won't embarrass you. The way he delivered it -- in the midst of a wonderful moment at YS featuring a truly great story -- was like the worst kind of nails screeching on a blackboard. Inappropriate timing, self-satisfied and smug delivery.

Come on, let's end this one!

2008-07-15 21:43:31
288.   Mattpat11
Come on Justin. Comback Player of the Year is on the line.
2008-07-15 21:43:31
289.   3rd gen yankee fan
280 But then what do they do about home-field advantage? This game is supposed to "count" and all.
2008-07-15 21:43:36
290.   monkeypants
276 But how many blown calls are really argued? Most end with the player grimacing and trotting back to the dugout. I would fear that instant replay would simply tempt the umps to punt close calls and refer more and more close plays to the booth, or to encourage the coaches to challenge calls more often.
2008-07-15 21:43:56
291.   Shaun P
280 But monkeypants, this game COUNTS! We can't have it end in a strange way. It COUNTS! For things! Important things!


Giambi would have ended this game in like the 10th. Booooooo!

Here's Justin "Lyle Overbay has nothing on me in Mattpat eyes'" Morneau.

2008-07-15 21:44:30
292.   monkeypants
289 Hence the tie-breaker suggestion. But I assume that you are being sarcastic, and if so, I agree with you.
2008-07-15 21:45:11
293.   tommyl
289 There's this new fangled thing called a coin. They could try flipping it or something.

Or....Kyle Farnsworth vs. Jose Reyes cage match?

2008-07-15 21:45:35
294.   Just fair
292 Sausage Races? A la Pittsburgh and Milwaukee.
2008-07-15 21:45:38
295.   Mattpat11
291 Morneau is much better than Overbay. And for that alone, he'll win the Heisman
2008-07-15 21:45:52
296.   OldYanksFan
280 I agree. After 12, the team with the hottest girlfriends, wins.
2008-07-15 21:46:15
297.   3rd gen yankee fan
292 Works for me... but I just want to go to bed. I don't usually watch this ASG thingy.
2008-07-15 21:46:17
298.   dianagramr
great look on Selig's face!
2008-07-15 21:46:18
299.   bobtaco
13 Baby!
2008-07-15 21:46:22
300.   thelarmis
CPE, was Bach's 3rd son. Bach had like 18 or 20 sons. very virile man! only a few lived to adulthood. his oldest, WF and his youngest, JC were also composers. his 9th son JCF, was known, as well...

Sebastian Bach, is actually a badass! his real last name is Bierk, though...

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2008-07-15 21:46:31
301.   tommyl
296 That's where Derek Jeter really shines.
2008-07-15 21:46:34
302.   monkeypants
As Bud looks on, what happens if this game goes, say 18 or 20 innings?
2008-07-15 21:46:48
303.   3rd gen yankee fan
294 Brilliant. I'll take it.
2008-07-15 21:47:23
304.   OldYanksFan
296 Decided by the bikini contest (of course).
2008-07-15 21:47:46
305.   Travis08
302 Time for the Hall of Famers to play. Let's see Wade Boggs's knuckleball.
2008-07-15 21:48:02
306.   Shaun P
295 Well played my friend. Thanks for the laugh.

This is the game that never ends . . . it goes on and on my friends . . .

Cripes, Elvis just turned over in his grave. "Viva Viagra!"?!?! WTF?! I hate drug marketing.

2008-07-15 21:48:20
307.   thelarmis
284 yes, willie should be our 3B coach!
2008-07-15 21:48:22
308.   dianagramr
team with the fewer guys named in the Mitchell Report wins ...
2008-07-15 21:48:38
309.   cult of basebaal
296 well, jeter's still around ... he might not have much range left, but he still gets around ...allright, allright, allright!!!
2008-07-15 21:48:59
310.   Max
269 thelarmis, good to see you back around here! I'll put on some Dolphy and Sun Ra in your honor while I work till the wee hours of the morning (since this game won't end, and I have a deadline to make tomorrow).
2008-07-15 21:49:39
311.   tommyl
309 Stop stealing my bad jokes!
2008-07-15 21:50:18
312.   monkeypants
At what point do stars from non-contending teams start to, er, play a little less hard?
2008-07-15 21:50:39
313.   tommyl
How about we see which team has a better dinner service in Hell's Kitchen? Seeing Gordon Ramsey call Papelbon a donkey would make it worth it alone.
2008-07-15 21:50:50
314.   cult of basebaal
wait. christian guzman's entrance music is "purple haze"? i don't know what to think.
2008-07-15 21:50:51
315.   OldYanksFan
Shit. The AL is out of pitchers.
Who's that warming in the pen?
It looks a little like... could it be...
My God!
(sorry...getting... very... sleepy...)
2008-07-15 21:50:55
316.   Shaun P
302 Next year, dammit, it will REALLY count! 50 man rosters! 12 starting pitchers in reserve! Winner gets all World Serious games at home!

I love that Tito got Mo in when he did, but sending K-Rod to the showers after just 1 batter might come back to haunt him. I hope not.

2008-07-15 21:51:23
317.   thelarmis
310 thanks so much, max! you guys here are wonderful! i - finally! - got a damn ipod. Out To Lunch was one of the very 1st cd's i put on it. tons of hank mobley already on : )

good luck with your deadline!

i made sure to read every single post alex, cliff and the gang put up regardless of anything i had going on!

2008-07-15 21:51:43
318.   cult of basebaal
311 i owe you a coke.
2008-07-15 21:51:46
319.   Mattpat11
did Wright forget to run?
2008-07-15 21:52:13
320.   thelarmis
314 was it Winger's version?! ; )
2008-07-15 21:52:25
321.   monkeypants
OK, so Buck saus that when Kazmir gets in the game, Francona will have him on a strict pitch count. But, as Buck points out, Kazmir is the last guy down there. So, then what...???
2008-07-15 21:52:41
322.   thelarmis
318 i think it's a root beer! : p
2008-07-15 21:52:43
323.   tommyl
318 Sounds fair to me. You can get it for me in 2028, when this game ends.
2008-07-15 21:53:05
324.   cult of basebaal
317 you'd better! i'll have to find a way to fill up that ipod, i've picked up some live maiden and metallica (burton, of course) you might want ...
2008-07-15 21:53:39
325.   rsmith51
Maybe the DH can pitch...
2008-07-15 21:53:52
326.   OldYanksFan
No Coke. Pepsi.
2008-07-15 21:53:56
327.   tommyl
321 Forfeit! It counts!
2008-07-15 21:54:32
328.   monkeypants
316 As you might guess, I'm sort of pulling for a doomsday scenario now...I just want to see Bud squirm as the game drags on to 3am.
2008-07-15 21:54:35
329.   cult of basebaal
315 lame. that only works if there's a folding chair involved ...


2008-07-15 21:54:48
330.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
317 Out to Lunch?? Nice!!! I got Dolphy at the Five Spot on the iPod this morning, along with a whole lot of Bobby Hutcherson Blue Notes...jazz and baseball, Buck O'Neil had it all right!
2008-07-15 21:55:06
331.   tommyl
324 Can I have that instead of my root beer/coke/pepsi?
2008-07-15 21:55:13
332.   bartap74
If there's no winner after 14, home field advantage in the All-Star game is decided by the Home Run Derby. That way, IT can count too.
2008-07-15 21:55:26
333.   OldYanksFan
This is what happens when you take steroids and greenies out of the game. Selig is ruining the sport!
2008-07-15 21:55:26
334.   dianagramr
I hear Bud is secretly allowing hgh in the dugouts at this very moment.
2008-07-15 21:55:39
335.   Mattpat11
I'm going to die watching this game
2008-07-15 21:55:51
336.   cult of basebaal
not to bum anyone out ... but here's the last post from RLYW ...

" NEW YORK—Yankees slugger Hideki Matsui will cut short his rehabilitation and could be headed for season-ending surgery after experiencing more inflammation in his troublesome left knee.

Matsui, 34, is currently on the disabled list and had been working out at the club's Minor League complex in Tampa, Fla. He did not hit on Tuesday and is scheduled to see team physician Dr. Stuart Hershon in New York by Friday.

Yankees general manager Brian Cashman called Matsui's continued issues "discouraging" and said it is now more likely that Matsui may not return this season."

2008-07-15 21:55:54
337.   monkeypants
Wow, this is the most I have watched an ASG in about 10 years, and I tuned in during the 9th inning!
2008-07-15 21:57:05
338.   thelarmis
324 nice! i put 7 Maiden and 3 Tallica discs on in the last coupla days. tons and tons and tons of metal. i've been on a Candlemass kick lately. lotsa jazz, too...

you see Maiden in LA?! i heard it was unreal...

2008-07-15 21:57:20
339.   Shaun P
328 2008 All Star Game batting practice jersey: $250.

Tickets to the 2008 All-Star game: $500.

Anything that makes Bud squirm: priceless.

"Fringe" failing miserably: beyond priceless.

2008-07-15 21:57:35
340.   monkeypants
332 Definitely...then the ned only reorganize the HR derby so that the seedings are by league. Beautiful: "This year, it all counts!!!"
2008-07-15 21:58:07
341.   rsmith51
All Kazmir has to do is pitch to contact to keep his pitch count down.
2008-07-15 21:58:18
342.   cult of basebaal
331 sure ... shoot me an email at temek ... at ... earthlink ... net

tell me what sorta music you like, i can send you a mp3 dvd (of what i've got)

2008-07-15 21:58:34
343.   3rd gen yankee fan
Yeah if you guys ever want to come to Kansas City, let me know. We'll go to the Negro League Museum and the Jazz Museum and Satchel Paige's grave. It'd be cool.
2008-07-15 21:59:29
344.   monkeypants
226 I'm not bummed per se, because I had been expecting this sort of thing al along. It's been that sort of year.
2008-07-15 21:59:51
345.   Shaun P
If Carlos Marmol:Lou Piniella::Scott Proctor:Joe Torre . . .

. . .can a walk off home run possibly be in the offing here?

2008-07-15 22:00:10
346.   OldYanksFan
The guys playing are really tired. We need some fluffers in the dugouts.
2008-07-15 22:00:11
347.   tommyl
Alright guys, I'm off to bed. Night all.
2008-07-15 22:01:03
348.   OldYanksFan
The Good... The Bad... and the Uggla.
2008-07-15 22:01:16
349.   cult of basebaal
338 no ... pity, haven't seen much of anything live recently.

gotta bunch of jazz too ... a bunch of miles stuff ... "on the corner" sessions, "jack johnson" sessions", "cellar door" sessions ... tell me watcha like ...

2008-07-15 22:01:25
350.   weeping for brunnhilde
337 Same here--I can't remember the last one I watched.

Here's to the Stadium.

336 F-U-C-K.

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2008-07-15 22:01:30
351.   Just fair
Mama told me there would be days like this.
2008-07-15 22:01:35
352.   Shaun P
347 G'night tommy.

Isn't there a curfew still for AL games - they end at 1 AM? Or does that not count because this game counts?

2008-07-15 22:01:41
353.   cult of basebaal
348 DAMN YOU!!! nice!


2008-07-15 22:01:55
354.   thelarmis
330 nice! i have the 9cd Dolphy box set on Prestige and the Five Spot show is part of it. Bobby Hutcherson is excellent! i'm a mallet player myself - though i play mostly Concert Marimba, as opposed to Jazz Vibes. Blue Note is the coolest label ever! : )

Uggla's havin' a rough time...

336 yeah, Mats is probably gone and Damon's not feelin' so good. yuch! : (

2008-07-15 22:02:42
355.   cult of basebaal
346 well, i'm sure arod knows someone to call ...
2008-07-15 22:03:20
356.   thelarmis
330 There's a Japanese Blue Note Best Of compilation for Hank Mobley called (i think) Essential Blue. i have all the tunes, but i need to get it for the "collection"...
2008-07-15 22:03:52
357.   Max
337 Weird thing is that I generally ignore all-star games myself, especially since one of the worst games I have ever attended (in any sport) was the one at Wrigley in 1990 when I lived in Chicago. Multiple rain delays and crappy offense a la the 2008 NY Yankees. I wanted my money back.

But this has been a weirdly entertaining and surprisingly watchable game, though I wanted it to end a few innings ago.

2008-07-15 22:03:52
358.   Shaun P
PeteAbe is en fuego tonight!

Or I'm really really tired.

2008-07-15 22:04:58
359.   OldYanksFan
Wow... there were like 50 comments the first 6 innings. TheAlarmis replaces Tommy at sarcasm.
2008-07-15 22:05:30
360.   3rd gen yankee fan
2008-07-15 22:05:51
361.   Mattpat11
This game has officially passed into tedious.
2008-07-15 22:05:56
362.   monkeypants
Nothing showcases the game's stars and the Old Stadium like a half empty house at 1:00 am drowsily watching player make his third error.
2008-07-15 22:06:01
363.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
356 hey man, send me an email i'm used to hunting down records here to send back home for people
2008-07-15 22:06:25
364.   thelarmis
349 nice! i've got tons of Miles. Jack Johnson sessions is excellent. Screaming Headless Torsos borrowed that awesome lick for an amazing tune of theirs called "Smile And A Wave"...
2008-07-15 22:06:48
365.   Shaun P

Or, to make Bud squirm, HA!

Meanwhile, FOX is psyched - just look at how many ads for their shows they get to run.

2008-07-15 22:07:50
366.   cult of basebaal
354 i'm never quite sure where to place your musical tastes ... well, we've covered the metal and some of the jazz, but i disremember the rest ... (well, except for the dislike for santana, i do remember that ...)
2008-07-15 22:08:21
367.   bobtaco
The ghosts just blew that one back
2008-07-15 22:09:13
368.   monkeypants
Poor tired Buck sounded so sad when he realized that 310' blast would fall short of the RF fence...
2008-07-15 22:09:24
369.   dianagramr
Mariners catcher Jamie Burke warming up in the bullpen. :-)
2008-07-15 22:09:29
370.   Just fair
Nate McClouth for Bobby Abreu. Straight up.
Whaddya say, Pittsburgh. : )
2008-07-15 22:09:58
371.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
364 oh man, John McLaughlin is great on Jack Johnson..could listen to Miles' "fusion" records all the time
2008-07-15 22:10:17
372.   Shaun P
If this thing goes much longer, the next look back at Yankee Stadium is going to feature Wayne Tolleson, Drew Henson, and Kevin Mmahat.
2008-07-15 22:11:34
373.   monkeypants Buck and McCarver are cracking wise about "This time it counts." This is awesome!
2008-07-15 22:11:49
374.   cult of basebaal
371 i like you more already ... though it's not surprising, the japanese market always seemed to appreciate miles' 70's stuff more than the US did ...
2008-07-15 22:11:53
375.   bartap74
372 No love for Alvaro Espinoza or Jerry Mumphrey?
2008-07-15 22:12:27
376.   Mattpat11
Please end.
2008-07-15 22:12:36
377.   cult of basebaal
371 have you heard any of the santana - mclaughlin concerts from 1973?
2008-07-15 22:13:40
378.   cult of basebaal
372 you said "wayne tolleson"!

heh, heh!
heh, HEH!!!

2008-07-15 22:14:00
379.   Mattpat11
For Christ sakes, people, just hit the ball in the general direction of Ugla and get this over with.
2008-07-15 22:14:27
380.   nyyfan22
check out - they have tons of jazz and indie music. not a lot of current popular music, though. my subscription breaks down to under .25 a tune.

you can browse their catalog w/o signing up.

2008-07-15 22:14:37
381.   3rd gen yankee fan
WHOA... check this out, my bf just told me this -- it's the ghosts fucking with the Cubs. The ghosts don't want the Cubs to have home field advantage in the WS. 3 errors by a Marlin, the same team they were 5 outs away from beating in 03, on a fly ball by a Marlin but screwed with by a Cubs fan! Then the Marlins went on to beat us in front of the ghosts! :-O
2008-07-15 22:15:09
382.   Shaun P
375 Sadly, someone had to be left on the cutting room floor. The old "Big 3" of Wade Taylor, Jeff Johnson, and Scott Kaminiecki also didn't make it.

I'll bet that Bob Melvin and the Diamondbacks are just thrilled that Webb is in this game. Yikes!

2008-07-15 22:16:04
383.   Chyll Will
...end this national/american nightmare. Please. Bud, go home. G'nite. zzzzz...
2008-07-15 22:16:38
384.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
377 havn't heard the live stuff, only "Love, Devotion and Surrender". the record shops here would knock you out man...check out my jazz blog, it's being redesigned now but will be done soon.

378  Wayne Tolleson, too about best of Stump Merril vol.2?

2008-07-15 22:16:41
385.   Just fair
Do any of the ghosts have Webbed feet?
2008-07-15 22:16:49
386.   Shaun P
If the NL takes the lead, and Lidge comes in to close, and he blows it, but only so that its a tie again - what is the NL going to do?
2008-07-15 22:17:20
387.   thelarmis
363 thanks, man! i've seen the Mobley comp on ebay, so i know it exists. there are a coupla rare Paul Gilbert Jap only singles i've been trying to track down...

i'll email at some point, might not be too soon, though... i still owe hoppystone from here an email about music, from the offseason...

366 i know man, i'm all over the map! i don't 'dislike' santana, just not a huge fan. well, let's see - Joe Jackson is one of my very favorite musicians, Paul Gilbert is my guy this year, last year my big inspiration was Tower of Power. of course, i gave a clinic this past winter on Classical Indian rhythmic and counting systems! : )

thrash metal and jazz-fusion rule! : )

2008-07-15 22:18:07
388.   Shaun P
I say again, Giambi would have ended this damn game by now. Come ON Longoria, send one over the wall and win yourself the MVP award and make us very happy!
2008-07-15 22:18:18
389.   Mattpat11
I hate this game.
2008-07-15 22:18:59
390.   monkeypants
Maybe if the game is still tied after 15 innings, they could hold an immediate internet vote for who should win?
2008-07-15 22:20:31
391.   thelarmis
369 hysterical!

371 ya know what's fucked up? i actually think it's a misprint and it's supposedly Bill Connors on guitar on that. i'm still not quite sure the exact truth. i've got an "authority" guy i should ask...

2008-07-15 22:20:32
392.   bobtaco
381 I like that scenario, good one
2008-07-15 22:20:34
393.   OldYanksFan
I save McLaughlin (and the M. Orchestra) live in 1973. Billy Cobham. Awesome.

Alarmis... you like the Purple. Ian Paice?

2008-07-15 22:20:45
394.   bartap74
I'd love to see Boggs pitch.
2008-07-15 22:20:52
395.   Shaun P
390 With our luck, it would end in a tie.
2008-07-15 22:21:04
396.   Mattpat11
2008-07-15 22:21:40
397.   3rd gen yankee fan
390 That works for me too.
2008-07-15 22:22:16
398.   monkeypants
395 That's funny. : )
2008-07-15 22:22:20
399.   cult of basebaal
382 what, no mark "land done under" hutton, or sam "just call phil" militello???
2008-07-15 22:23:05
400.   Mattpat11
Just let Uggla go home.
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2008-07-15 22:23:31
401.   cult of basebaal
389 lighten up, francis ...
2008-07-15 22:23:43
402.   Shaun P
393 I saw Deep Purple back in '98 - front row. Also ELP's last tour. Freakin' awesome. Even though Blackmore wasn't there.
2008-07-15 22:24:12
403.   weeping for brunnhilde
372 Oh, man!

Switch-hitter, right? With those goofy glasses? Shortstop. Hit .252 one year? Low, squat-like stance?

Was he before or after Roy Smalley?

2008-07-15 22:24:49
404.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
393 you saw Mahavishnu live?? uncle said J-Mac outdid Hendrix in those days..

Billy Cobham was insane, though Tony Williams my all-time fave drummer..

2008-07-15 22:24:50
405.   Shaun P
OK, when Kazmir gets Wright out, I'm going to sleep. If the AL then wins, you can all thank me tomorrow. =)
2008-07-15 22:24:55
406.   nyyfan22
387 I went to college with Adolfo Acosta, a trumpet player from Tower of Power. He's a great guy and an amazing jazzer. Got picked up by Maynard (RIP) straight outta college. Great partier, too.
2008-07-15 22:25:50
407.   monkeypants
McCarver: How do you solve this problem of the All Star game being a tie? [commentary follows]

Monkeypants' answer: Is it really a problem?

2008-07-15 22:27:09
408.   monkeypants
405 G'night. I am now holding out 'til the bitter end. Making one's own work schedule has certain advantages.
2008-07-15 22:27:16
409.   weeping for brunnhilde
407 Ha ha hah ahah ah ah ah ah ah ha h!

Oh, Lord, help us all.

2008-07-15 22:27:22
410.   Mattpat11
407 It would be horribly unsatisfying.
2008-07-15 22:27:30
411.   Shaun P
405 Wright? Did I say Wright? I meant Guzman. Good night all - and good luck.

Mattpat, I hope your boy Morneau ends it.

2008-07-15 22:28:03
412.   weeping for brunnhilde
408 It certainly does.
2008-07-15 22:28:15
413.   cult of basebaal
404 well, i like me some johnny-mac ... i've seen me some johnny-mac ... he ain't no jimi ... no offense intended ...
2008-07-15 22:28:33
414.   thelarmis
393 hey OYF! man, it's not "alarmis," it's "thelarmis", not "The Larmis"!!! : p

cobham is a major hero and influence of mine! in fact, next spring, my old fusion trio is slated to get back together. we'll be adding violin and bass and reinacting Inner Mounting Flame in its entirety. it should be released on cd & dvd. if it comes to fruition, i'll let ya know.

Purple are cool, but i'm not a big fan, or anything. saw 'em front row at Giants Stadium about 21 years ago, with Aerosmith and Gn'R.

402 yeah, but you got to see Steve Morse, which is always a treat! : )

2008-07-15 22:29:35
415.   Mattpat11
411 I'll personally deliver him the Lombardi trophy.
2008-07-15 22:29:42
416.   thelarmis
404 Tony Williams is a god. the be-all, end-all. period, case closed.
2008-07-15 22:30:23
417.   monkeypants
410 Nothing would satisfy me more.
2008-07-15 22:30:49
418.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
408 where you at Monkeypants? only 2:30pm here so easy for me..

413 hah-hah..just picked up Gil Evans plays Jimi Hendrix on cd for about $5..excellent...and to think Jimi and Miles would have collaborated at some point!!

2008-07-15 22:31:33
419.   Mattpat11
417 I'd like to think didn't devote the last five hours of my life to a non finish.
2008-07-15 22:31:59
420.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
416 yeah, and i always dig that part in Miles' "In A Silent Way" where he gets to let loose after 12 mins, you can just hear him going "about damn time!"
2008-07-15 22:32:14
421.   cult of basebaal
418 they did ... then jimi nailed miles's wife ... that didn't help things at all ...
2008-07-15 22:32:37
422.   Mattpat11
One fugly son of a bitch
2008-07-15 22:32:53
423.   monkeypants
418 Montreal. Do it's 1:30 am as Ludwig dove for that catch. They're still trying, I'll say that.
2008-07-15 22:34:00
424.   OldYanksFan
404 A lot of musicians had Alvin Lee syndrome... deing impressed with speed. J Mac was fast. There was Johnny Winter love. But when he wasn't fucked up, no one could touch Hendrix. Axis Bold as Love is art. The control over the sounds his guitar made... awesome. I believe Hendrix was the guitarist for James Brown when he was 14? 15?

Les Dudek anyone?

2008-07-15 22:34:05
425.   bobtaco
Lidge does what Lidge does
2008-07-15 22:34:53
426.   Mattpat11
Come on Nancy
2008-07-15 22:35:50
427.   dianagramr
If they get to the 18th, the 200*9* game will also consider to have been completed ...
2008-07-15 22:36:19
428.   thelarmis
McLaughlin does extraordinary stuff with all the Indian concepts. unreal!

don't kill me, but i'm not a huge Hendrix fan. i know, i know. don't care much for Steely Dan, either. sorry. Frank Zappa is the best, though! : )

2008-07-15 22:36:23
429.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
424 J Mac still kept it funky with Mahavishnu though..a very fast, hard funk but still..but yeah, Hendrix was insane. I LOVE Axis too...though wasn't Jimi with the Isley Brothers, not JB?
2008-07-15 22:36:35
430.   cult of basebaal
okay ... "all-you-can-eat pete" usually pisses me off, but this is funny ...

"12:38 a.m.: Deciding to live blog the All-Star Game is now on par with deciding to drink all that tequila that one night sophomore year.

12:40 a.m.: You have to sort of admire Clint Hurdle burning out his own pitcher.

12:43 a.m.: Gary Carter has asked to manage the NL team the rest of the way.

12:45 a.m.: The press room has taken on the atmosphere of a hostage situation. Peter Gammons is banging on the wall with a tin cup.

12:53 a.m.: They just got Billy Wagner to come out and talk to us. He said he would be willing to go back in and pitch if the rules allowed it.

Meanwhile (true story) he's going to the White House tomorrow to meet with the president, who has invited a handful of baseball people over for dinner.

12:59 a.m.: The press room inmates have now divided up into gangs. I'm with the Crips. We'll be fighting the Bloods any minute now.

1:01 a.m.: Dan Uggla could be the first player DFA'd during an All-Star Game."

2008-07-15 22:36:49
431.   Mattpat11
2008-07-15 22:36:53
432.   thelarmis
michael young w/ a 2nd chance to get his 2nd A-S game winning hit...
2008-07-15 22:37:29
433.   nyyfan22
2008-07-15 22:37:33
434.   Mattpat11
2008-07-15 22:37:39
435.   3rd gen yankee fan
Dammit, Bud's off the hook. Gnite guys.
2008-07-15 22:38:24
436.   Mattpat11
Drew the MVP?
2008-07-15 22:38:26
437.   monkeypants
Oh well, Bud is vindicated, I guess.

Hmmm...was he really safe?

How many times will one league (in this case he NL) have to lose home field advantage before everyone starts to question things?

2008-07-15 22:38:43
438.   dianagramr
2008-07-15 22:39:16
439.   bobtaco
insane. Kaz is the WP
2008-07-15 22:39:31
440.   weeping for brunnhilde

Praise Jesus.

2008-07-15 22:40:31
441.   cult of basebaal
428 ok. now you've gone and done it. santana i could take, but jimi??? damn, man. i'm gonna have to set you straight ...


2008-07-15 22:41:25
442.   Max
Navarro looked safer on the previous close play at the plate than Morneau did on the game-ending run...but the umps decided to bail Bud out.
2008-07-15 22:43:07
443.   weeping for brunnhilde
Goodnight, friends.

What a wacky, wacky baseball match.

2008-07-15 22:43:20
444.   thelarmis
441 i know! well, maybe it's 'coz i have to play a lot of his tunes on gigs and let's say the guitarist is, um, not...very...good.

sometimes when i have to learn a lot of an artist for work, i get burnt out. i used to like the Doors and SRV a lot, but i had to play in those kinds of tribute bands so much, i can't listen to those artists anymore...

2008-07-15 22:43:25
445.   cult of basebaal
429 yeah, jimi played with the isleys' ... little richard too ... just no james brown ...
2008-07-15 22:45:57
446.   cult of basebaal
444 still, man ... that's like declaring you hate davinci because your local "etch-a-sketch" homeless-guy (living out of a shopping cart) can't "sketch" the "mona lisa" ...
2008-07-15 22:47:53
447.   thelarmis
446 i was trying to shift the blame! i'm just not a huge fan, that's all...
2008-07-15 22:50:04
448.   cult of basebaal
447 sigh! we'll discuss this in the email, son.


2008-07-15 22:50:21
449.   thelarmis
Murcer moment of silence at 1:50am...
2008-07-15 22:50:56
450.   thelarmis
448 sounds good!
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2008-07-15 22:53:33
451.   Max
What a bizarre evening...delaying the award ceremonies for commercials at 1:45am EST, when hardly anyone is left watching at home or at YS.

And if anyone wonders why "classless" fans at YS boo RS players, Jeannie Zelasko provides the ammo by baiting the remaining fans during the award ceremony and reminding everyone that MVP Drew plays for the Red Sox, and bringing up the hopelessly stale buried Ortiz jersey story.

One final nice touch that hardly anyone saw: Bobby Murcer's picture flashing across the screen as the telecast ended with Frank singing New York, New York...

2008-07-15 23:04:14
452.   OldYanksFan
yes... little richard not james brown. Mixed up my icons.

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