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Following in the tradition of his old man, Hank Steinbrenner says he hopes he won't regret not making a deal for Johan Santana. Maybe Hank will start coming through the clubhouse and give the troops the ol' Knute Rockne before long.
"Joba is competing for a spot in the starting rotation right now," Joe Girardi said. "We're preparing him to be a starter. We're going to look at the pitching staff as a whole and decide where people best fit."
(N.Y. Daily News)
So, maybe Chamberlain won't be in the pen this year. Starter, reliever, which one of these? Speaking of Joba, last year, a friend of mine pointed me to this good, 2005 profile from Omaha World-Herald.
Chien-Ming Wang lost his arbitration case.
Over at Replacement Level Yankees, SG has a nifty two-part series on the best seasons ever by Yankee pitchers: starters and relievers. Check it out.
Harlen is a true American hero.
I hope Joba's fame brings him everything he deserves.
If they were at all consistent, I;d be fine
I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that 3.75 million is a bargain for a man whose crowning achievement is being in baseball 15 years, but for the man that's been the best pitcher on our team for the last three years, anything above 4 million is unthinkable.
Is the "market" for a generic middle reliever and a 200 IP 120 ERA+ type pitcher really that similar?
Or is it a situation like Kei Igawa last year where we really didn't care about fiscal responsibility for a couple days?
"Is the "market" for a generic middle reliever and a 200 IP 120 ERA+ type pitcher really that similar?" I would say that you answered your question by placing the word market in quotes. There is no "market" for Wang right now because his contract rights are under the control of the Yankees. Without that control and if the process of setting Wang salary were subject to market forces then the answer would obviously be no. Look no further than Zito's numbers to gauge what Wang would get on the open market.
We've got one last season of having to bring in guys like Hawkins; building the farm system is a reflection of caring about fiscal responsibility. Gaining the benefit from doing so is a process not a static event however. We're on the road to reaping the benefits from building the farm, we need just a little more patience before they begin to extend beyond the starting staff.
Really, I don't see the contradiction that you do. The Yankees have Wang tied up until he's 32; they are under no obligation to pay him more than they have to. They offered 4, he wanted 4.6, the Yankees won. End of story.
It really has nothing to do with the separate signing of a FA reliever.
Then don't sign any of them. Problem solved. We don't add dead weight to the team and we don't have to nickel and dime Wang. Everyone's happy!
As for the Wang arbitration case: while the two sides were close ('only' 600k), I don't really see any benefit in the Yankees just handing over the extra money when they didn't have to. Are we really to believe that the extra money would have bought goodwill when Wang hits the FA market? Will he take a hometown discount from the Yanks when that time comes? I, personally, think not.
If your point, Mattpatt, is that they should have just given Wanger the extra 600,00K then, yeah, I suppose it wouldn't have killed them, but it also gives them a bit more leverage against other players in arbitration...
If he were signed from multiple years and we gave up a draft choice for him I'd squawk but as things are . . . Eh. Hope he gives us some innings in the 6th and 7th.
It is ONLY relative to what other players of a similar production level get in their same arbitration year. I believe Kazmir got $3.75m. So compared to that, Wang did OK... don't you think?
There is a reason why the arbitor found in favor for the Yankees. If they were low-balling Wang, they would have lost. Wang was also quoted as saying he expected between $3m and $4m.
If the Yankees, or any other team significantly raise the bar on arbitration prices, then ALL other teams, including low budget teams will be effected.
How about Molina's contract?
Will read about Pavano. Know it won't touch me the same way, unless it adds to my knowledge about what a waste he is.
As for the arbitration, they weren't so far apart.
14 Its a mix of that and the tone of Cashman's quote. And after spending money like mad on stupid ass moves the last few years, I don't see why we need to hardline the (current) best pitcher on the team over a few hundred thou, which is a drop in the bucket for this team. It comes off as the team flipping the guy off for no good reason.
I am really excited for this camp, spring training and upcoming season. I love Girardi's energy...even if it doesn't spill over the players, it is starting to spill over to me. Not even the thought of Fransworth in the 8th can bring me down now!!
23 Speaking of being excited - anyone else see the BP Projected Standings by PECOTA? Here's the AL East:
Boston Red Sox 93-69
Toronto Blue Jays 83-79
Tampa Bay Rays 82-80
Baltimore Orioles 69-93
New York Yankees 96-66
(Had you all a little worried, huh? =)
FWIW, that ties the Mets for the best record in MLB.
Well, I think the bullpen is going to be pretty wretched, especially in the second half, so that could very well be true.
This team left we with a really bad taste in my mouth last year, and they've done nothing as of yet to change it. I just can't wait for the season to start. Hopefully things will start looking up then.
Mmmm...music to my ears.
"Meanwhile, Hughes has his locker moved. It was Mike Mussina's idea. He wanted Hughes on one side and Ian Kennedy on the other so he talk to the kids all spring."
LETS - GO - YANK-EEES!
By projected RS/RA, the Yanks and Sox pitching staffs look to be equal; the Yanks' extra 3 wins seem to come from having a superior offense. That sounds right to me.
23 I hear you william - it usually takes me a while to shift from the nba to baseball, but I am very excited. Even though there are some things that are big ? like 1b and the pen, I still feel pretty good about the team and regardless am excited to see how things develop.
28 I even feel good at Moose, not necessarily having a great year, though I think he will have a decent enough year, but I like his demeanor in what I have seen on tv and read.
Looking forward to a great season ahead. I've been off-line at Canyon of Heroes for a little while with a lot of grad work on my plate. I'm gearing up for 2008 and reading to begin a mad blogging schedule for the new season. Readership has dropped off with my slow posting in the winter, so I'd appreciate your readership and your support in driving a few eyes to my work.
My Japanese blogs will need a little housekeeping before they're ready again, but that is in the breeze right now. I'll be starting up some NPB writing at Baseball Prospectus very soon as well.
Thanks and Go Yanks!!!
1. Be on time. No excuse for lateness.
2. Shorts and T-shirts only permitted during spring training.
3. Curfew of 1 a.m.
4. Jewelry - only one chain is permitted. No earrings.
5. Only neatly cut beards, mustaches, goatees. No long hair or "unshaven looks."
6. No family members in the clubhouse until after games.
7. No cell phones in the dugout.
8. Cell phones only allowed in the clubhouse until one hour before games.
9. No competing speakers in the clubhouse.
Pete A says they're were Mr. Torre's rules as well as Joe G's. I think Newsday may have stepped in it on this one.
No cell phones in the dugout then, either.
The Yankees have never allowed beards, have almost always been stringent about long hair, and have never permitted players to wear earrings. Some of these were essentially unwritten rules, but they've all been in practice for my lifetime and longer.
I know the rules have been in place forever, but does anyone else get the feeling that Joe G is a bit of a..how can I say...umm....weenie??
Aside from the MR, it has been a GREAT winter. Even Torre supporters like myself are VERY excited about what Joe Jr. brings to the club. We overspent, but we still got ARod, Pettitte, Mo and Po. It looked bad for a while, but everything came together.
And whether you were for the Santana trade of not, watching our young pitchers develop is gonna be a blast. I hear Horne is ready for MLB if he is really needed. Melencon too.
I think the team is energized.
I think we REALLY need to get off to a good start in 2008,
I don't know why there are so many that think Boston has a considerably better team then we do.
I know Tex looks good for 1B in 2009, but I would rather put Jeter at 1B, see if ARod can still play SS, and put our money into a quality/the best 3Bman and OFer money can buy. Jeter's defense might be the difference between Phil and Santana. Jeter can NOT play SS when his contract expires. It's best to move him while 1B is still open, and give him a chance to develop into a decent fielding 1Bman.
- Is Cashman still calling the shots?
- Did Tex have an excellent walk year?
- How did Duncan look at 1B?
- What about Miranda?
- How is Montero's development coming along?
Sure we rip on him a lot, but I wouldn't want to wish a antibiotic-resistant infection on anyone. MRSA is the real deal.
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