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The Jury is Out
2007-09-04 15:31
by Alex Belth
Note: The Bronx Banter blog has moved to bronxbanterblog.com.

...on these New York Yankees. Look, I don't care what the pitching match-up is tonight, it's on each and every one of the Yankees to show-up and put forth a winning effort. If the Yanks don't make the playoffs, they've got nobody to blame but themselves.

Get it in gear, fellas, we'll be rooting you on.

Let's Go Yan-Kees.

Comments (485)
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2007-09-04 15:44:37
1.   Alex Belth
I actually believe the Yanks will win tonight. I guess I feel I have to believe in them, even if the realist in me would be, uh, more pessimistic. This team goes on streaks where they look like the best team in the game but when they stink, they really stink--no hitting, no pitching and lousy fielding. Of course I can see 'em losing tonight, but screw that, they're winning this damn game, f that.
2007-09-04 15:50:00
2.   bobtaco
We play today, we win today das it.
2007-09-04 15:52:55
3.   williamnyy23
1 I appluad your optimism, but if this team can't be expected to win tonight then, well, it's time too look toward the hot stove. If they lose a Ramirez/Wang matchup this team is the ultimate Faker.
2007-09-04 15:55:39
4.   kylepetterson
Anybody know why crazy Carl Pavano wasn't part of the team photo today?

Either way, what's say we win one for him? After all he's gone through for this team, it's the least they can do.

2007-09-04 16:07:13
5.   weeping for brunnhilde
2 Hear, hear.
2007-09-04 16:07:59
6.   yankz
Didn't Ramirez handle them last time out?
2007-09-04 16:08:56
7.   yankz
4 He got hurt on the way to the stadium.
2007-09-04 16:10:24
8.   weeping for brunnhilde
3 Nah, william. You never know. They dally with us, to be sure, but I have to believe that it ain't over 'til it's over.

Seattle did us the favor of losing nine straight or whatever it was, so they're not exactly taking the thing by the throat either.

We could go all the way if we get hot and get lucky at the same time, but we could also fold like a three-dollar suit.

(Never mind the mixed-metaphor. :)

Who knows with this team.

2007-09-04 16:11:34
9.   weeping for brunnhilde
4 Wow! You mean he's actually still officially a New York Yankee?

I'd forgotten all about him.

2007-09-04 16:14:42
10.   Schteeve
Wang and Cano show tonight. All seems right with the world so far.
2007-09-04 16:17:21
11.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
3 groundouts to start the game?:

Wang to Mariners:

Not in my house ladies.

2007-09-04 16:19:48
12.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, that fucker.

Nice catch.

2007-09-04 16:21:05
13.   weeping for brunnhilde
What a nice, easy swing from Abreu. That thing sure carried.
2007-09-04 16:22:58
14.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow. That 1-1 to Alex sure looked like a strike.
2007-09-04 16:29:40
15.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice play, Alex.
2007-09-04 16:35:53
16.   weeping for brunnhilde
It's really preternatural how consistent Jorgie's been. There he is, .331, as he's been all year.
2007-09-04 16:36:43
17.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn, that thing got out of here in a hurry!

Jorgie!

2007-09-04 16:37:16
18.   Mike T
Jorgie on the board!
2007-09-04 16:37:44
19.   Schteeve
Preternaturalness is in the houuuuuse!
2007-09-04 16:38:33
20.   weeping for brunnhilde
19 :)
Yeahh, boyeeeee!
2007-09-04 16:38:57
21.   weeping for brunnhilde
Come on, Frankenstein!
2007-09-04 16:39:42
22.   Schteeve
Matsui sure looks bad when he looks bad.
2007-09-04 16:40:29
23.   weeping for brunnhilde
This guy can't throw strikes.

This game shouldn't be a game.

We need to take blow this puppy open.

2007-09-04 16:44:06
24.   weeping for brunnhilde
Btw, I'll take this opportunity to say that it's so said about Andy Phillips.

Such a shame, the poor guy. I really like him.

2007-09-04 16:44:56
25.   weeping for brunnhilde
Sad.
2007-09-04 16:46:14
26.   Schteeve
blech
2007-09-04 16:46:18
27.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn it.

See, that's just the kind of ball I think will go through in a couple of years when Melky gets naturally stronger with age.

2007-09-04 16:48:10
28.   Schteeve
27 Or when Derek Jeter is their shortstop.
2007-09-04 16:48:19
29.   Sliced Bread
27 Woulda snuck through on Jeter, I suppose. Dang.
2007-09-04 16:49:48
30.   weeping for brunnhilde
Damn it.

See, that's just the kind of ball I think will go through in a couple of years when Melky gets naturally stronger with age.

2007-09-04 16:50:19
31.   weeping for brunnhilde
28 :)

Indeed.

Nice catch, Melk.

2007-09-04 16:50:30
32.   Schteeve
30 Or when Derek Jeter is their shortstop.
2007-09-04 16:50:52
33.   Sliced Bread
30 Oh, so that's how you want to play it, eh?

27 Woulda snuck through on Jeter, I suppose. Dang.

2007-09-04 16:50:54
34.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Kay is confusing his Rafael`s and Yuniesky`s?
Took the morning off to stay home and watch this, let`s show some spark boys!
2007-09-04 16:51:59
35.   weeping for brunnhilde
32 33 ha ha hah ah aha h aah ha ha!!
2007-09-04 16:52:17
36.   Schteeve
I just want you guys to know that I quit smoking on Saturday, and this is the first game I've watched since then. The least they could do is win.
2007-09-04 16:53:00
37.   weeping for brunnhilde
34 Wow, it's morning already out there?

Damn, Derek just missed that one.

2007-09-04 16:54:54
38.   weeping for brunnhilde
36 Bravo, Schteeve!

I actually haven't smoked since Sunday myself.

I'd quit for ten days a couple of weeks ago, kind of as a dry run-through.

Nice job, though, and good luck.

2007-09-04 16:55:23
39.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
37 8:05am first pitch. Took me two years to get used to coffee and mueslix instead of beer and pizza when watching the game...

You know, I still am happy about this season even if we miss the playoffs. Just think, Pavano started Opening Day! And look at the roster now...

2007-09-04 16:56:11
40.   weeping for brunnhilde
Very nice hitting, Bobby.
2007-09-04 16:56:35
41.   Sliced Bread
Ahhhbrayyeww! smooth
2007-09-04 16:57:12
42.   Sliced Bread
Alex only wants the MVP, couldn't give a damn if they win this.
2007-09-04 16:57:15
43.   weeping for brunnhilde
39 Oh my God, he did, didn't he?

What was the deal there? Was that when Chien-Ming went down?

2007-09-04 16:57:20
44.   Schteeve
Thanks
2007-09-04 16:57:48
45.   williamnyy23
So far, this is another shameful performance. I'm not sure if they are afraid of hitting against Ramirez with two strikes, but they seem to be employing the same level of impatience that authored three miserable losses. Do the Yankees game plan at all?
2007-09-04 16:58:25
46.   joe in boston
damn Alex, first pitch again ?! Makes me want to buy some Procede and drink it ....
2007-09-04 16:58:53
47.   Sliced Bread
45 They're going to break through. Mark my words.
2007-09-04 16:59:50
48.   weeping for brunnhilde
45 I have to say, Derek's last ab was really poor. First-pitch fastball just missed followed by a flailing at something off-speed.

Meanwhile, though, Chien-Ming's doing great.

Is Joba available today?

2007-09-04 17:00:07
49.   yankz
45 You're joking, right?
2007-09-04 17:00:30
50.   williamnyy23
47 The fact that they haven't already is a huge concern, especially because they are exhibiting the same characteristics that go against their trademark when they are successful.
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2007-09-04 17:00:45
51.   Sliced Bread
48 Yes. Unleash the Joba!
2007-09-04 17:02:37
52.   weeping for brunnhilde
Speaking of Joba, does anyone know if they're even vaguely flirting with the idea of letting him start, and if not, why not?
2007-09-04 17:03:09
53.   Mr OK Jazz TOKYO
Wang really has a great delivery, and hard to believe he can hit 95...
2007-09-04 17:03:42
54.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ohhhhhh!!!

What a sick pitch!!

Wow.

2007-09-04 17:03:47
55.   yankz
What pitch was that? It was beautiful.
2007-09-04 17:04:11
56.   Sliced Bread
CM Wang is on. I love when he's on.
2007-09-04 17:04:19
57.   Mike T
Wang is locked in today.
2007-09-04 17:04:20
58.   Zack
52 Combo of innings limits (unlike Kennedy, Chamberlain doesn't have the college innings logged so he is relatively unseasoned strength wise) and not wanting to mess him up too much by switching back and forth..
2007-09-04 17:05:00
59.   Sliced Bread
55 Change?
2007-09-04 17:05:04
60.   Sliced Bread
55 Change?
2007-09-04 17:05:21
61.   yankz
52 First, they're not going to jerk around the most valuable resource in the organization: Joba's right arm. Second, he's probably near his innings limit. Third, you handicap the bullpen for the next five days. Unless you demote Kennedy for a reliever, I guess.
2007-09-04 17:05:46
62.   weeping for brunnhilde
55 Looked like a slider, though--all that downward movement.

But maybe it was a change...

2007-09-04 17:06:33
63.   weeping for brunnhilde
Way to go, Jorgie!
2007-09-04 17:07:02
64.   weeping for brunnhilde
This is why the man hits!

Left field over the fence, right field on the ground.

2007-09-04 17:07:33
65.   Schteeve
Posada's bat is as quick as I've ever seen it.
2007-09-04 17:08:02
66.   Schteeve
Why again, is Giambi not playing today?
2007-09-04 17:09:25
67.   weeping for brunnhilde
58 61 Thanks.

I'm certainly down with being conservative, so that's fine.

I was just wondering why, if he's slotted to start next season, he can't start this season.

Will he be that much stronger or more fit or whatever in April?

2007-09-04 17:09:32
68.   Sliced Bread
Wow. The ol' Bugs Bunny toss yer mitt off the Umpire State Building play. Weird deal.
2007-09-04 17:10:42
69.   Zack
Ramirez is a dopey looking pitcher...
2007-09-04 17:11:23
70.   Schteeve
Has Matsui ever stolen a base on a non botched hit and run, or double steal?
2007-09-04 17:11:37
71.   yankz
Hmm. Park effects seems like too simple an answer.
2007-09-04 17:12:03
72.   weeping for brunnhilde
How fucking sloppy is that?
2007-09-04 17:12:22
73.   yankz
Why would you ever send Matsui?
2007-09-04 17:12:30
74.   weeping for brunnhilde
Matsui's ridiculously slow.

Did you see that jump he got?

2007-09-04 17:12:33
75.   Zack
u-g-l-y
2007-09-04 17:12:38
76.   Sliced Bread
Close shave for Shelley. Get 'em Shelley!

Ack!

Strike 'em out. Throw 'em out. Steal his lunch. Bang his wife. Fug.

2007-09-04 17:12:53
77.   williamnyy23
This is the most offensively inept that this team has been all season.

Could Torre have picked a worse combo to send the runner. If Matsui, who has a bad knee!! isn't going, Duncan probably takes ball four. Incredible.

2007-09-04 17:13:05
78.   Zack
Ok, if the Yankees can't score more than 1 run of Horacio Ramirez, its officially ridiculous time...
2007-09-04 17:13:24
79.   Sliced Bread
77 Word. Terrible call.
2007-09-04 17:14:17
80.   weeping for brunnhilde
73 Especially considering ole Shelly's not exactly a contact hitter, right?

Let's take a non-contact hitter, a painfully slow runner, and hit and run with 'em--Seattle'll never see it coming, it's ingenious!

2007-09-04 17:14:28
81.   Jersey
Why oh why are we sending the Zilla on that?
2007-09-04 17:14:33
82.   Schteeve
Also, if I'm not mistaken Shelley is a pretty extreme flyball hitter. Why on earth put Matsui in motion?
2007-09-04 17:15:35
83.   Jersey
This is probably just perception, but Torre's moves get more mystifying by the week.
2007-09-04 17:16:47
84.   williamnyy23
There's the leadoff that could begin the rally that sinks this game...this game shouldn't even be a contest, but Wang has to pitch for his life because the Yankees hitters have Torre have conspired to abandon what has made them successful.
2007-09-04 17:18:34
85.   williamnyy23
Do Kay and Leiter realize there is a very important game being played!!!
2007-09-04 17:18:51
86.   Sliced Bread
84 No doubt they're scuffling. Still think they're going to bust out on this putz (but not the other one).
2007-09-04 17:19:17
87.   Zack
oy, come on Wanger. I know its tough when your offense can't score more than a run off a bum, but we need you!
2007-09-04 17:19:37
88.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, fuck.

That was a strike.

Or maybe not.

Damn, I'm frustrated.

2007-09-04 17:20:06
89.   Zack
screwy strike zone
2007-09-04 17:21:16
90.   weeping for brunnhilde
Strike 1.

1-1.

2007-09-04 17:21:34
91.   weeping for brunnhilde
Strike 2.
2007-09-04 17:22:07
92.   williamnyy23
86 Scuffling is one thing...but it's also a bad approach and poor game managing. If Wang has one bad inning, the game will be over because the Yankees have completely squandered an opportunity to cream a bad pitcher. I know it's a dead horse, but if they lose this game too, it speaks to a serious flaw in this team (and I wouldn't be afraid to make a move to correct it).
2007-09-04 17:22:30
93.   weeping for brunnhilde
Aggggggh!!

Motherfucker!

Wow, he's out at the plate!

Man, right after Leiter says to throw the slider again and I'm thinking "Again?"

2007-09-04 17:23:01
94.   Zack
Thank God Hideki made up for Jeter's terrible range. How did he not get to that ball??
2007-09-04 17:23:33
95.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow.

Chien-Ming Wang.

Nice D.

Talk about dodging a fucking bullet.

2007-09-04 17:24:06
96.   Zack
There we go. Wanger got all the gbs he needed!
2007-09-04 17:24:06
97.   Schteeve
That was a pretty entertaining inning.
2007-09-04 17:24:22
98.   weeping for brunnhilde
94 I know. A good shortstop gets to that ball. At the very least, he knocks it down.
2007-09-04 17:25:08
99.   weeping for brunnhilde
94 And usually we complain about Derek going to his left.
2007-09-04 17:26:06
100.   Zack
99 Seems like Jeter is rapidly approaching obelisk defense, where all he can do is basically hope the ball is hit right too him...
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2007-09-04 17:26:18
101.   weeping for brunnhilde
Good, Robby.

Come on, sticks!

2007-09-04 17:27:37
102.   weeping for brunnhilde
100 But what can we do about it?

Really, how many more seasons do we have to suck it up?

2007-09-04 17:28:20
103.   weeping for brunnhilde
Why are they playing for a tack-on in the 5th?
2007-09-04 17:28:43
104.   Sliced Bread
Jeter's taken the bachelor thing a couple thousand innings too far. Playing the field, so to say, has sapped his ability to literally play the field. Needs to settle down. Having a wife helps your range. I should know. Been married 11 years. You should see me dive for it. Never miss a play.

Eh, what the fuck am I talking about?

2007-09-04 17:28:57
105.   Zack
102 the irony of course being that we have the answer right next to Derek, as moving A-Rod to ss and Jeter to 3rd would make a big difference, but we know the chances of that happening. I can actually envision Derek refusing to move positions his entire career.
2007-09-04 17:29:24
106.   Zack
104 no idea
2007-09-04 17:29:42
107.   williamnyy23
The bunt there is awful. You have a dwindling number of ABs against a bad pitcher and you hand him an out. This is another Torre head scratcher that is handcuffing an already struggling offense.
2007-09-04 17:30:04
108.   weeping for brunnhilde
104 :)

What indeed?

2007-09-04 17:30:08
109.   pistolpete
Jesus, the only ones who are going to beat Boston is US.

Halladay can't even win a damn game at Fenway.

2007-09-04 17:31:13
110.   Schteeve
[Everyone] I think Jete's is more banged up than he lets on.
2007-09-04 17:31:27
111.   Jersey
We're going to bunt our way to glory. Awesome.
2007-09-04 17:31:48
112.   Zack
Does Joe have a strategy today/ Hit and run with a slow guy and a strike out/fb batter...Bunt and thereby waste an out...It's like he wants Wang to pitch under pressure

And oh yeah, the Yankees offense is officially in ridiculous slump mode. It really does seem like in the past few years that the offense seems to run totally hot/cold. Am I wrong there?

2007-09-04 17:32:47
113.   OldYanksFan
I think our recent suckatude correlates nicely with Jeter's recent suckatude. The only time Jeter hasn't sucked in the last month was against Boston, where the team coincidentally swept 3.

In the #2 spot, he is VERY important to getting and keeping things going. But he has been a black hole for a while now.

2007-09-04 17:32:53
114.   Zack
And now we get to hear not only how amazing Buchholz and Pedroia are by ESPN and the like, but how awesome Ellisbury is...
2007-09-04 17:33:09
115.   Max
Both the offense and Joe are in clueless mode. Ramirez should have at least 80 if not 90 pitches by now except that our team keeps doing stupid things to bail him out.
2007-09-04 17:34:06
116.   weeping for brunnhilde
110 Fair enough.
2007-09-04 17:34:28
117.   williamnyy23
112 This year they seem to go into slumps when they get over anxious, which always seems to be against bad pitchers. It's almost like they are in a rush to get the runs they think are inevitable. If that's the case, Torre has to demand patience, starting with Jeter, whose swing at everything approach short circuited significant rallies over the weekend.
2007-09-04 17:35:39
118.   OldYanksFan
Ichiro would get $25m/yr? Really?
2007-09-04 17:35:44
119.   Schteeve
Why does Ichiro! always wear that turtleneck? It's 80 degrees in NY.
2007-09-04 17:36:31
120.   Sliced Bread
119 It's a dickie?
2007-09-04 17:37:05
121.   williamnyy23
Once again...do Kay and Leiter care about the game, or are they going to do sports talk all night.

Great...another rally...the Yankees remain one bad pitch away from another awful loss.

2007-09-04 17:37:11
122.   Schteeve
120 I bet you're right.
2007-09-04 17:37:16
123.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, God.

I can't watch this.

Come on, Chien!

Do your magic.

2007-09-04 17:37:35
124.   Zack
Kay has just decided to override anything Lieter might say against Ichiro being a HOF player by talking louder...

Sure would be nice if we could have scored a few runs of one of the crappier pitchers in the league...

2007-09-04 17:38:23
125.   Schteeve
Is this the Jose Guillen who used to be with Anaheim and is kinda psycho?
2007-09-04 17:38:30
126.   mehmattski
Oh no, I hope that this isn't going to lead to Kay's inane rant about Wang's ERA from the windup vs from the stretch- which firejoemorgan.com mocked to the appropriate degree.
2007-09-04 17:39:11
127.   weeping for brunnhilde
Pfew!

Ok, fucking sticks, hit the goddamned baseball, would you please?

2007-09-04 17:39:17
128.   pistolpete
We REALLY need more than one run. That's twice he's escaped by the skin of his teeth.
2007-09-04 17:39:31
129.   Zack
Wow, that was a weird DP but I'll take it!
2007-09-04 17:41:08
130.   RIYank
Hey, I'm back.

That means it's time to stop funking around and score.

2007-09-04 17:41:39
131.   Jersey
Those DPs are money
2007-09-04 17:41:56
132.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ok, if we fail to score here, do we just go right to Joba/Mo?
2007-09-04 17:42:25
133.   Zack
Ump's k zone is all out of whack
2007-09-04 17:42:27
134.   weeping for brunnhilde
130 Hey, RI!
2007-09-04 17:42:28
135.   Sliced Bread
132 Release the Joba!
2007-09-04 17:43:21
136.   weeping for brunnhilde
God damn, but that ball carried.

Abreu hits a lot of lazy fly balls that somehow end up on or near the track.

2007-09-04 17:43:37
137.   Schteeve
Can anyone remember the last time Bobby pulled the ball?
2007-09-04 17:44:12
138.   Zack
The Yankees do realize this is Horacio Ramirez, right? There are only so many games where you can chalk it up to the pitcher pitching the game of his life
2007-09-04 17:45:32
139.   RIYank
138 How's that?
2007-09-04 17:45:41
140.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh my God.

Fucking A.

2007-09-04 17:45:42
141.   mehmattski
(Mouth Agape)
2007-09-04 17:45:54
142.   pistolpete
Wang in for the 7th, Viz on call, Joba starts the 8th.

But what do I know?

Hey- A-ROD! It's gotta be the squirrel!!!

2007-09-04 17:46:26
143.   williamnyy23
THAT is an A-bomb. Abreu and Arod both worked 3 ball counts and got balls to hit hard. I hope the rest of the team was paying attention.
2007-09-04 17:46:31
144.   Mike T
A-Rod handing out souvenirs at the ball park. What a nice guy.
2007-09-04 17:46:33
145.   Zack
Kinda saw that coming, didn't you? Like there was no way Ramirez could sneak that junk past A-Rod one more time?
2007-09-04 17:46:40
146.   RIYank
141 You and Jeter!
2007-09-04 17:47:03
147.   Jersey
Wow. Just wow.
2007-09-04 17:47:14
148.   Schteeve
Sweet sassy Mo'lassy!
2007-09-04 17:47:35
149.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ok. Joba can't come in mid-inning, right?

So still I say bring him in for the seventh and the eighth, but get Mo up in the eighth just in case.

2007-09-04 17:47:44
150.   RIYank
Ramirez isn't pitching well -- I guess that's obvious. But the Yankees are hitting well, it's just incredible bad luck that we have a mere two runs. Eight hits and two dingers in the sixth and only two runs!
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2007-09-04 17:49:16
151.   Schteeve
How about a little Britton in the 7th?
2007-09-04 17:49:49
152.   randym77
Does that squirrel live on the foul pole?
2007-09-04 17:49:59
153.   weeping for brunnhilde
Good job, Jorgie.

Great day for Jorgie.

2007-09-04 17:50:15
154.   Zack
151 Who's that?
2007-09-04 17:50:46
155.   Schteeve
154 Some guy that Jason Giambi plays golf with.
2007-09-04 17:52:01
156.   RIYank
What the hell happened?
2007-09-04 17:52:15
157.   williamnyy23
If Matsui had run, he could have had a base hit.
2007-09-04 17:52:31
158.   pistolpete
Nice break for us.

Make it stand up, fellas!

2007-09-04 17:52:32
159.   Zack
Weird
2007-09-04 17:52:33
160.   williamnyy23
156 Catcher's interference.
2007-09-04 17:52:44
161.   RIYank
Oh, catcher interference. I'll take it.

Torre planned that, I think. H&R gets you a lot of catcher's interference.

2007-09-04 17:53:16
162.   mehmattski
Catcher's interference! Sound the alarm! Shine the Timmermann signal!
2007-09-04 17:53:24
163.   RIYank
(161 jk.)
2007-09-04 17:53:55
164.   Mike T
What is "catcher interference"?
2007-09-04 17:53:55
165.   weeping for brunnhilde
161 :)
2007-09-04 17:54:35
166.   RIYank
164 He touched Matsui's bat.
2007-09-04 17:54:40
167.   weeping for brunnhilde
164 Catcher interferes with the hitter's swing in grasping for the pitch.
2007-09-04 17:54:57
168.   RIYank
Sweet!
Hey, Ichiro can't throw???
2007-09-04 17:54:58
169.   Schteeve
Dear Yankees fans,

The whole Shelley Duncan thing is just about over.

Love,

Reality

2007-09-04 17:55:10
170.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, thank God!

Thank you, Robby.

2007-09-04 17:55:36
171.   Zack
Nicely done Robbie!
2007-09-04 17:55:38
172.   williamnyy23
If Matsui bats .2999, he is going to really regret not running that CI out.
2007-09-04 17:55:45
173.   Sliced Bread
Ahhh, the ice is finally cracking!

Jobatime! No fucking around, Joe. Joba for two.

2007-09-04 17:55:58
174.   randym77
Ichiro screwed up.
2007-09-04 17:56:02
175.   Zack
169 Even Lieter is saying Duncan needs to play more to have a chance
2007-09-04 17:56:05
176.   mehmattski
That reminds me of the time that Paul O'Neill tried to throw home and ended up throwing the ball straight down into the ground.
2007-09-04 17:56:14
177.   monkeypants
164 it's a play where Torre sends a really slow runner but gets bailed out when the catcher gets in the way of the batter's swing, so no one is called out.
2007-09-04 17:56:57
178.   williamnyy23
173 Wang has 68 pitches....you can't pull him.
2007-09-04 17:57:39
179.   RIYank
170 I know why you're so happy. They finally scored a run on a single! You knew we were going to be all over you if the Yankees won scoring all their runs on homers.
2007-09-04 17:57:40
180.   weeping for brunnhilde
176 Heh. Yeah, I do recall that.
2007-09-04 17:57:43
181.   Schteeve
176 Didn't Torii Hunter do that a couple of years ago too? It's always hilarious when it happens.
2007-09-04 17:57:44
182.   Maniakes
Wang is only at 68 pitches, he's been cruising, and he has a three run lead. I'd let him go another inning or two.
2007-09-04 17:57:58
183.   Sliced Bread
178 Good point, but watch me.

Wang's been living dangerously. No fucking around.

2007-09-04 17:58:18
184.   RIYank
178 You can pull Wang any time.
2007-09-04 17:58:30
185.   weeping for brunnhilde
178 Certainly not now, you can't.
2007-09-04 17:58:37
186.   Max
Ramirez was left in for one batter too long...Mariners almost dodged a bullet. Joe's not the only to be second guessed...the M's have used their bullpen in very weird ways lately.
2007-09-04 17:59:22
187.   Maniakes
Correction: he has a four run lead. I love being wrong.
2007-09-04 17:59:26
188.   Zack
Finally!
2007-09-04 17:59:27
189.   pistolpete
183 Still, it's 4 runs. I'd let him try the 7th.
2007-09-04 17:59:27
190.   mehmattski
175 Seriously. The last time he started a game was over a week ago (he went 1 for 3) and the time before that was August 15 when he went 2 for 4 with a home run. Perhaps he needs a bit of an adjustment to be a better pinch hitter, but I think 169 is a little unfounded.
2007-09-04 17:59:28
191.   williamnyy23
183 184 Then you can't use Joba tomorrow. If they can save him for Wednesday, they get a free day off on Thursday.
2007-09-04 17:59:29
192.   Schteeve
Wilson Betemit, looks like the kind of guy who would give up his seat on the bus for a lady.
2007-09-04 17:59:44
193.   monkeypants
169 probably, but when the alternative is broken Andy Phillip, a resurgent Stinky Minky, jack of all trades Betemit...I'll take my chances. So long as Giambi is not starting against the LH, that is.
2007-09-04 17:59:49
194.   weeping for brunnhilde
179 :)

182 Cruising? What are you talking about?

2007-09-04 18:00:18
195.   RIYank
191 Good point!
2007-09-04 18:00:35
196.   Sliced Bread
If the Joba rules allowed him to enter in the middle of a frame I'd stick with Wong. But let's not push the envelope here. Jobatime. Joba for two. Right now, please.
2007-09-04 18:00:47
197.   Schteeve
175 190 I'm just having a little fun. It's just that when he first came up he hit 1.3 HRs per AB.
2007-09-04 18:01:25
198.   williamnyy23
195 And Hughes is going tomorrow...I know I'd feel better thinking we had 3 inning of Joba/Mo backing him up.
2007-09-04 18:01:26
199.   randym77
181 IIRC, Manny Ramirez did it last year. Ball landed right at his feet. Even funnier, he didn't know where the ball went, and was looking around cluelessly, while his teammates were yelling, "Look down!"

I think Ichiro's mistake was he forgot it was Posada running. He could have nailed him at the plate pretty easily, but gave up and tried for 3B instead. And got neither.

2007-09-04 18:02:18
200.   RIYank
Yeah, I'd leave Wang in, and maybe we don't need Joba today. And maybe use him one inning tomorrow, then the day off and he's available again. That would be good, efficient use.
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2007-09-04 18:02:22
201.   Maniakes
194 I suppose he may look worse when you're actually watching the game, but on gameday a WHIP of 1.0, 13 groundouts in 6 innings, no extra base hits, and no runs looks pretty good.
2007-09-04 18:02:30
202.   monkeypants
189 Yep...the bigger the lead the longer you can 'risk' pushing him.
2007-09-04 18:02:46
203.   Zack
Gotta go Wang here. And if he does well, I'd say for the 8th too. He is so far below 100 pitches, and I would hardly call his last too innings scuffling...
2007-09-04 18:03:20
204.   Schteeve
198 I've never agreed with anything more.
2007-09-04 18:03:29
205.   weeping for brunnhilde
How's Viz been lately?

Send Chien out, to be sure, but have someone throwing in case he's wild again.

Short leash.

2007-09-04 18:03:35
206.   mehmattski
197 Aight. Had you confused with one of those folks who was saying that 26 year old rookies were worthless no matter what, back when a Shelley call-up was in the works. Anyway, yeah, it's been 10 AB since Duncan homered. Sheesh.

184 You shall do no such thing. (Not that there's anything wrong with that).

2007-09-04 18:03:54
207.   Zack
201 Watching the game doesn't change it. He's been good, real good...knock on wood
2007-09-04 18:04:20
208.   pistolpete
A Stink sighting!
2007-09-04 18:05:09
209.   Sliced Bread
Alright, you've all convinced me. Stick with Wang.
They just have to nail this one down. That's not too fucking much to ask, is it?
2007-09-04 18:05:24
210.   weeping for brunnhilde
201 Ah, fair enough.

But he's walked what, three or four?

And he was in serious trouble the previous two innings and just wriggled out.

2007-09-04 18:05:27
211.   Schteeve
201 Oh sure sonny, that all sounds great but what about his GuttyMeter, or his AestheticallyWinningBaseball percentage? Huh Huh?
2007-09-04 18:05:27
212.   Schteeve
201 Oh sure sonny, that all sounds great but what about his GuttyMeter, or his AestheticallyWinningBaseball percentage? Huh Huh?
2007-09-04 18:05:29
213.   Zack
Oh good, Stink in. And so it begins. Again.
2007-09-04 18:05:44
214.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice play, Chien!
2007-09-04 18:05:48
215.   Schteeve
How the hell did I DP that?
2007-09-04 18:06:19
216.   Zack
Wanger showing his ups
2007-09-04 18:06:27
217.   Bob Timmermann
That was Matsui's second career catcher's interference.
2007-09-04 18:06:42
218.   monkeypants
208 Ah yes...we've-scored-enough-runs-today™. Torre must be so happy--so many of his toys got taken away this season; this is like a little slice of sweet revenge.
2007-09-04 18:06:46
219.   Mattpat11
Stinkapalooza has returned to the Bronx!

Its been a long and trying three months, but I like to think we all used each other for support to get through it.

2007-09-04 18:06:59
220.   weeping for brunnhilde
Yes, he has been very good. I just meant that with a one-run lead I would be leery of pushing the envelope.
2007-09-04 18:07:39
221.   Zack
Wowza, ok, warm up the BP
2007-09-04 18:07:58
222.   monkeypants
HR. Start the panic-o-meter.
2007-09-04 18:08:38
223.   Zack
Well, if Wanger can get through the 7th, i say Viz to Mo
2007-09-04 18:09:34
224.   Maniakes
220 The HR he just gave up that would have tied the game if not for the offensive outburst makes a very powerful argument in your favor.
2007-09-04 18:09:55
225.   Schteeve
Wang looked over at first and saw Doug, and was like who the hell is that guy? I thought we traded him for Giambi??

And then the resulting confusion screwed him up.

2007-09-04 18:10:43
226.   pistolpete
out Out OUT get him OUT.
2007-09-04 18:10:45
227.   weeping for brunnhilde
Another walk.

Ok, who's getting up?

2007-09-04 18:11:17
228.   Zack
Looked like a strike to me, but the ump hasn't been calling it
2007-09-04 18:11:36
229.   monkeypants
Where was that pitch?
2007-09-04 18:11:55
230.   RIYank
GIDP, a Wang's best friend.
2007-09-04 18:12:02
231.   weeping for brunnhilde
Beau-ti-ful.
2007-09-04 18:12:07
232.   pistolpete
226 ...after this inning.
2007-09-04 18:12:18
233.   yankz
RIYank, where have you been?

Also, I love Wang. Teehee.

2007-09-04 18:12:32
234.   Zack
Of course my mlb.tv pooped out for the dp, but Wang=$$
2007-09-04 18:13:11
235.   williamnyy23
The White Sox are tanking on another late inning lead...it really worries me that Detroit has so many games against them. They are the one team that has flat out quit.
2007-09-04 18:13:19
236.   monkeypants
That's what Minky brings to the table.

And, Wnag for the eighth, methinks.

2007-09-04 18:14:06
237.   pistolpete
And Brad Pitt wasn't standing during 'God Bless America' why?
2007-09-04 18:14:07
238.   Max
Wow, Wang looking really shaky that inning, and he gets out of it just like that. Love it.
2007-09-04 18:14:41
239.   Zack
Wang to start the 8th, Viz to cover? I somehow think that its just gonna be Viz to Mo
2007-09-04 18:14:47
240.   Mattpat11
236 high socks?
2007-09-04 18:14:59
241.   Schteeve
236 Yeah but Giambi made that play like 14 times on Thursday.
2007-09-04 18:15:31
242.   RIYank
233 Australia.
And man, am I jet-lagged. It's ridiculous.
2007-09-04 18:16:20
243.   yankz
242 Nice. Lucky.
2007-09-04 18:16:34
244.   mehmattski
242 Did you get on one of those flights where you got to see the sunrise twice? Cause that's the best part about coming back from Australia.
2007-09-04 18:16:52
245.   Schteeve
more like, "Brandon Sorrow" am I right?
2007-09-04 18:16:58
246.   monkeypants
239 I would go to Wang. Viz was shit awful last time, though maybe that was a one offer. In any case, if your starting staff includes Hughes and Kennedy, and you have Mussina as long man backing up an injured Clemens, and Wang is supposedly your ace--I think you have to try to get as many innings as possible out him today and save the bP for the next couple of games.
2007-09-04 18:17:03
247.   williamnyy23
Another 1st pitch hack by Jeter...Captain or not, he sits a game if he doesn't take a more patient approach.
2007-09-04 18:17:50
248.   weeping for brunnhilde
242 You just flew in from Australia and boy are your arms tired!

Ba-dump-bump!

2007-09-04 18:18:11
249.   monkeypants
240 No, that great stretch at first that must have save three, maybe six runs. Minky...you can only hope to contain him.
2007-09-04 18:18:29
250.   RIYank
Yes! The homers take the lead, 3-2. Bite us, singles!
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2007-09-04 18:18:39
251.   weeping for brunnhilde
Who just asked about Abreu pulling the ball?

:)

2007-09-04 18:18:52
252.   williamnyy23
All three HRs have been on 3-2 counts...If I was Torre, I would have a team meeting on this topic after the game.
2007-09-04 18:18:54
253.   yankz
Jeez. I think that ball would've landed in Australia.
2007-09-04 18:19:07
254.   Schteeve
245 See what I mean?
2007-09-04 18:19:07
255.   pistolpete
Love the air raid warning horn on the HR - wish they would use it more...
2007-09-04 18:19:09
256.   monkeypants
Bobby "I just gave Wang another inning" Abreu.
2007-09-04 18:19:12
257.   Sliced Bread
No fucking Viz. No fucking Farns. Nobody not named Wang, Chamberlain or Rivera, please. Unless, of course, we put up a couple, three more here.
2007-09-04 18:19:21
258.   RIYank
244 Never thought of that. No, I left at like 2 in the afternoon, so only got one sunrise.
2007-09-04 18:19:27
259.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ok, bring Chien back for the eighth.
2007-09-04 18:20:23
260.   RIYank
256 You're as good as Berman!
2007-09-04 18:20:30
261.   weeping for brunnhilde
252 I know, and again, Derek swinging at the first pitch.
2007-09-04 18:21:20
262.   Schteeve
252

Torre: Say fellers, whatdya make of this 3-2 homer business?

A-Rod: Small sample size, skip?

Torre: Shut up Ramirez, now here's what I want you fellers to do from now on. Only swing when it's 3-2! It's a strategy that can't lose I tell ya!

2007-09-04 18:22:16
263.   monkeypants
261 He's being unselfish--going for a single rather than the 3-2 homerun.
2007-09-04 18:24:15
264.   RIYank
Uh oh.
2007-09-04 18:24:19
265.   Mattpat11
Well, we're fucked.
2007-09-04 18:24:23
266.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow!

Fuck!!!

NOooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckcuck.

2007-09-04 18:24:37
267.   Zack
OH JESUS NO
2007-09-04 18:24:41
268.   yankz
Oh god no. Please.
2007-09-04 18:24:48
269.   OldYanksFan
O
M
G
!
2007-09-04 18:24:56
270.   monkeypants
And suddenly this turns very dark...
2007-09-04 18:25:36
271.   Zack
I seriously almost cried there...
2007-09-04 18:25:37
272.   weeping for brunnhilde
That was amazing baserunning, incidentally.

I don't think most guys end up on third there; they're waiting to see if the ball falls in.

2007-09-04 18:25:42
273.   williamnyy23
My heart stopped for a second...another topic at my post game meeting would be no sliding into any base head first...never...ever...not ever.
2007-09-04 18:25:46
274.   Mike T
What happened?
2007-09-04 18:25:59
275.   yankz
How fucking awesome that he stayed on the bag. MVP.
2007-09-04 18:26:47
276.   weeping for brunnhilde
273 Mike Huckabee.
2007-09-04 18:27:02
277.   yankz
274 Idiot Beltre's weight fell on Arod's right knee. He rolled around in pain while keeping his left hand on the bag. Chuck Norris who?
2007-09-04 18:27:16
278.   OldYanksFan
Wow... many of us getting very religious for a moment...
2007-09-04 18:27:19
279.   pistolpete
Not a collective holding of breath, Michael, more like a collective "Oh shit!"
2007-09-04 18:27:19
280.   Zack
That would have, without any doubt, ended the season for the Yanks

274 A-Rod went headfirst into 3b and Beltre fell onto his calf. A-Rod grabs his leg and starts screaming in pain immediately, clutching around his knee...Trainers sprint out as if their jobs depended on it, which of course they do...

2007-09-04 18:27:21
281.   monkeypants
273 I'm not sure sliding head first made the difference there.
2007-09-04 18:27:45
282.   Sliced Bread
I thought A-Rod just swore off the head first slides. Had he slid feet first, Beltre might have teabagged him, but I dunno, better that for us, than almost having his ankle snapped.
2007-09-04 18:28:20
283.   weeping for brunnhilde
274 Hit and run. Jorgie kind of dunked it into left-center and Alex never stopped running, got slid headlong into third and the thirdbaseman kind of fell onto Alex's leg, I think, causing him to wince and writhe.

He seems all right, though.

2007-09-04 18:28:30
284.   Mattpat11
BTW, Have I mentioned what an unfathomably useless the Toronto Blue Jays are?

Yeah. Real powerhouse you built there JP.

2007-09-04 18:29:00
285.   RIYank
Wheeeeeeew.
2007-09-04 18:29:27
286.   Schteeve
273

Torre: Say now fellers, I know we all saw Mendoza nearly lose his knee out there tonight...

A-Rod: That's Rodri...

Torre: Shaddap! Now here's what I want you fellers to do, from now on getcher self one of them emery boards from some of the floozies at the hotel, see? And ya get that emery board and you sharpen yer spikes up real nice. Then we'll run through those third basemen just like it was VD day!

Damon: VD day? I thought we only had that in Oakland???

2007-09-04 18:29:33
287.   yankz
Arod had a rough few weeks after his hammy popped. I hope nothing like that happens again.
2007-09-04 18:30:08
288.   mehmattski
What Kay doesn't realize about the supposed "advantage" the M's have by stacking 5 LHP in their bullpen: they all suck.

Come on Shelley, make us proud.

2007-09-04 18:30:33
289.   Sliced Bread
281 If he'd gone in feet first Beltre would have landed on his chest. A-Rod might have even been able to brace him up with his arms. You don't want a guy that size landing on your lower leg.
2007-09-04 18:30:54
290.   JeremyM
286 I like this Torre, hilarious. Not quite as good as the manager in "Ball Four" but pretty good:)
2007-09-04 18:31:05
291.   RIYank
Shelley's back!
2007-09-04 18:31:24
292.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow.

Nice job, Frankenstein!

2007-09-04 18:31:35
293.   pistolpete
And the Duncan experiment continuuuuuues.
2007-09-04 18:31:38
294.   yankz
YEAH!
2007-09-04 18:31:42
295.   Zack
I think that ball was actually level with the Duncan's head!
2007-09-04 18:31:50
296.   mehmattski
Wait, I don't understand. That wasn't a homer or a strikeout. And now he's clogging up the bases, standing there on first.
2007-09-04 18:32:07
297.   williamnyy23
281 If Arod goes in feet first, Beltre would have been very careful to stay out of the way. When the runner comes in spikes up, fielders give way.
2007-09-04 18:32:08
298.   monkeypants
Shelley "Complete game for Wang" Duncan.
2007-09-04 18:32:23
299.   Schteeve
Dear Yankees Fans,

Nuts!

Love,

Reality

2007-09-04 18:32:36
300.   Zack
And The Duncan celebrates his hit by ripping Pena's arms off and waving them around above his head
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2007-09-04 18:32:37
301.   OldYanksFan
Detroit down by 2, Cleveland down by 3.
Seattle DOWN BY 6!
A good night so far for the WC race.
2007-09-04 18:32:50
302.   JeremyM
I see old friend Nick Green is one of the 35 Mariners right now. Their bench looks ridiculous on gamecenter.
2007-09-04 18:33:24
303.   weeping for brunnhilde
Ohhhhhhhhhh!!!

Robby!

What a beautiful motherfucking hit.

God, that was sweet.

2007-09-04 18:33:25
304.   yankz
YEAH!
2007-09-04 18:33:27
305.   pistolpete
Is Villone still out there?

Get him up!

2007-09-04 18:33:29
306.   RIYank
Yum.
Revenge for the 7-1 thrashing.
2007-09-04 18:33:34
307.   williamnyy23
No JOBA Joe...please.
2007-09-04 18:33:47
308.   Zack
Robbie! I bet the catcher vacated the HP area with Duncan tearing around third!
2007-09-04 18:34:32
309.   JeremyM
305 He's on the DL.
2007-09-04 18:34:43
310.   Sliced Bread
Somebody get Joba and Mo the fuck out of there before Joe does something shit-fer-brains-ish.
2007-09-04 18:34:47
311.   monkeypants
297 Maybe. The play didn't strike me as particularly "head firsty" (like a jammed shoulder or broken finger). Maybe you slide feet fist and the guy lands on your collarbone and you're out for the rest of the season. This instance seemed more bad luck than a product of the particular slide. but maybe you're right.
2007-09-04 18:35:02
312.   rsmith51
Can someone explain the 35 Mariners? Do the Yankees have 35 players?
2007-09-04 18:35:03
313.   OldYanksFan
Cano now 4-4.
If we could get this guy a brain transplant, we might have a superstar.
2007-09-04 18:35:17
314.   Chyll Will
290 I dunno, sounds like Torre joined a rodeo in Winnepeg?
2007-09-04 18:35:43
315.   Zack
This game now screams Britton, since its the only time he'll get in anyways
2007-09-04 18:36:04
316.   yankz
312 Expanded rosters from 9/1, right?
2007-09-04 18:36:41
317.   weeping for brunnhilde
313 I know. So much talent...
2007-09-04 18:37:19
318.   rsmith51
316 What is the big deal then? Why were the announcers complaining?
2007-09-04 18:37:27
319.   Schteeve
314

Guy from Winnipeg: What d'ya mean by that, eh?

2007-09-04 18:37:32
320.   weeping for brunnhilde
316 Shouldn't it be forty, though?
2007-09-04 18:37:49
321.   OldYanksFan
Britton for the 8th, Farns for the 9th.
With any luck, maybe one will start a brawl.
2007-09-04 18:37:51
322.   Zack
Torre is going to see that all these runs came after he inserted the Stink into the game and therefore conclude that its because of the Stink and play him the rest of the season...
2007-09-04 18:37:57
323.   monkeypants
Doug "if I get a hit I'll start the rest of the season" Mientkiewicz.
2007-09-04 18:38:13
324.   yankz
318 Oh, I didn't know they were.

320 I don't think you HAVE to fill up the entire bench.

2007-09-04 18:38:16
325.   JeremyM
Is it wrong that I'm scared Doug will hit a bomb here and thus start the rest of the month? I mean, if he decided to go on an unlikely tear that would be one thing, but I doubt that's happening.
2007-09-04 18:38:23
326.   Sliced Bread
311 It wasn't that Beltre came down hard on him, just landed on a bad spot, his lower leg. If he'd gone in feet first would have been no problem. A-Rod will probably admit it himself after the game, swear again to never do it... until next time. Tough habit for runners to break.
2007-09-04 18:38:39
327.   monkeypants
320 Up to forty. Teams are not obligated to expand rosters to the maximum.
2007-09-04 18:38:41
328.   Mattpat11
Dodged a bullet there.
2007-09-04 18:38:49
329.   rsmith51
Doug Out is back...
2007-09-04 18:38:52
330.   williamnyy23
Welcome back Doug...I hope Torre is taking notes.
2007-09-04 18:38:54
331.   weeping for brunnhilde
Join the party, Melk!
2007-09-04 18:38:59
332.   yankz
Was that Alberto stretching? I've never seen him before.
2007-09-04 18:39:19
333.   redking
Don't doubt Wang! 9 innings tonight, I can feel it.
2007-09-04 18:39:23
334.   JeremyM
Yeah, you don't have to call up the whole 40-man, you have to pay MLB salary for a month and make room in the clubhouse so it's not always feasible.
2007-09-04 18:39:27
335.   Zack
321 Farnsworth could get some distance on an Ichiro toss...

The Attorney General maybe coming in? We can get a look at how a SS is supposed to field?

2007-09-04 18:39:34
336.   rsmith51
327 Ah, that sheds some light on it.
2007-09-04 18:39:35
337.   Mattpat11
325 Not at all. Better for Stinky to fail when it doesn't matter than when it does.
2007-09-04 18:39:59
338.   monkeypants
326 Right, but if he "just landed on a bad spot", couldn't that happen no matter how you slide?
2007-09-04 18:40:20
339.   rsmith51
Give Wang the rest of the night off so he's fresh on Sunday.
2007-09-04 18:40:56
340.   weeping for brunnhilde
324 327 Ah, thanks! I guess that makes sense. Same applies to the 25, huh?

Atta boy, Melky!

2007-09-04 18:41:44
341.   mehmattski
312 The Yanks are at 29, I think- 25 plus Kennedy, Gonzales, Britton, and Veras.

Well, one factor is that the M's AAA team (in Tacoma) did not make the playoffs in the PCL, whereas Scranton did, and the Yanks wouldn't call up their full complement until after Scranton's season is over.

But judging by the composition of the Yanks' 40-man roster, I'd be surprised to see the Yankees get as large as 35- maybe Clippard or Igawa will get a look, perhaps Sardinha, depending on the playoff race status.

2007-09-04 18:41:52
342.   Mattpat11
It comes down to the most overrated player in baseball against Papelbon.
2007-09-04 18:42:00
343.   monkeypants
329 ...and picking up without missing a beat. Modern sports medicine is amazing.
2007-09-04 18:42:02
344.   Chyll Will
319 I'm just sayin', thas'all. Brooklyn and Winnepeg roll their hot-dogs in different places, right?
2007-09-04 18:42:02
345.   rsmith51
338 Depending on if the catcher is tackling you and knocks you off the base so the ump calls you out.
2007-09-04 18:42:04
346.   yankz
Jeter the stat-padder
2007-09-04 18:42:19
347.   Zack
Ok, lets save some runs boys
2007-09-04 18:42:35
348.   Mike T
A Derek Jeter sighting!
2007-09-04 18:42:45
349.   Sliced Bread
338 Yeah, but again, he didn't land that hard on him, so A-Rod could have held him up, braced himself for the impact of Beltre landing on him. The way he was, on his belly, he was defenseless. But you're right, you can get hurt sliding feet first, but I think it happens less frequently that way. I'd be interested to find out. Maybe Will Carroll keeps tab on such things.
2007-09-04 18:43:22
350.   yankz
I hope Joba's not getting rusty.
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2007-09-04 18:43:38
351.   Mattpat11
343 Lets be fair. Stinky was almost hitting like a real baseball player in the ten games before he was murdered.

Don't you remember the weeping from the booth about how he was JUST TURNING THE CORNER

2007-09-04 18:43:43
352.   yankz
I'd send Britton out there.
2007-09-04 18:44:00
353.   pistolpete
PUNISH THEM.
2007-09-04 18:44:18
354.   monkeypants
340 That I'm not so sure about. the league would probably balk at a team carrying 18 or 20 players only (for competition reasons), and the players union would be pissed. I think that they have to field full rosters throughout the season, but the Sept. 1 call-ups are optional.
2007-09-04 18:44:18
355.   mehmattski
The (outgoing) Attorney General!
2007-09-04 18:44:42
356.   yankz
Is that Shelley Duncan's helmet?
2007-09-04 18:45:29
357.   monkeypants
345 Good call. I forgot that rule.
2007-09-04 18:45:59
358.   RIYank
Wang had too much time to cool off. I think you give Britton his shot now.
2007-09-04 18:46:10
359.   Mattpat11
From what I hear, that'll be the first of many for Alberto/.
2007-09-04 18:46:18
360.   yankz
Someday, he'll tell his grandkids that his first big league AB came pinch hitting for the great Alex Rodriguez.
2007-09-04 18:46:53
361.   weeping for brunnhilde
355 I know, I thought I was imagining it, but the kid's name is Alberto Gonzales, right?
2007-09-04 18:47:49
362.   Mattpat11
Have I gone on my Lyle Overbay rant lately?

Or for that matter, my JP Ricciardi rant?

2007-09-04 18:47:53
363.   mehmattski
Senator Schumer: So, Alberto, did you get a hit in your first major league at bat?

AG: I do not recall.

Senator Schumer: But, we have a memo that you sent to Derek Jeter commiserating about your first at bat, a force out to short.

AG: I do not recall that memo.

Senator Schumer: Do you not recall that the final out of the seventh inning on September 7th was recorded by Alberto Gonzales, as shown by this retrosheet data?

AG: I recall the seventh inning of that game, but I do not recall the final out.

2007-09-04 18:48:05
364.   Sliced Bread
358 Ah, Britton. You'd think, by now, even Joe would recognize the advantages of deploying an invisible pitcher.
2007-09-04 18:48:26
365.   weeping for brunnhilde
Check it, here he comes again.
2007-09-04 18:48:32
366.   rsmith51
Why, Joe, Why?
2007-09-04 18:49:24
367.   yankz
Put Veras in! No need to send your ace out there. The pen can get 6 outs without giving up 10 runs. I think.
2007-09-04 18:49:39
368.   pistolpete
Isn't Rasner out there? For f*ck's sake, Torre!
2007-09-04 18:49:42
369.   monkeypants
366 What does he have--75 or 80 pitches?
2007-09-04 18:49:52
370.   weeping for brunnhilde
363 heh heh hee heh!
2007-09-04 18:49:58
371.   Sliced Bread
363 Nice.
2007-09-04 18:50:39
372.   yankz
369 84 to start the inning
2007-09-04 18:51:09
373.   yankz
What is going on?
2007-09-04 18:51:37
374.   RIYank
Huh.
Posada, or pitch count?
2007-09-04 18:51:38
375.   redking
363, classic!
2007-09-04 18:51:39
376.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wang's a stud.
2007-09-04 18:51:47
377.   Bama Yankee
363 Good one, mehmattski.
2007-09-04 18:51:58
378.   Zack
Wang has been money the past three, I hope to hell he's okay
2007-09-04 18:52:00
379.   rsmith51
I would rather leave Wang in than put Viz in. What is Torre thinking?????
2007-09-04 18:52:21
380.   yankz
Posada asked for Wang to be taken out? That worries me.

So does bringing in Vizcaino with a 10-run lead. Joe REALLY wants this game.

2007-09-04 18:52:33
381.   weeping for brunnhilde
373 No idea, other than to say that after much ado involving Joe confabulating with the ump, Wang's day is done.
2007-09-04 18:52:53
382.   monkeypants
Hmmm. I would have let him finish the 8th, if not the game. Others here would have pulled Wang (heh-heh) at the start of the inning. But Joe Torre of the Four Rings gets that crucial first out with his starter.

Of course, I have teh sound turned down. Was there any plausible explanation from the booth?

2007-09-04 18:53:20
383.   yankz
381 I think the confabulamashating was buying Viz time. Kay described it as, Guidry checking on Ace, then going back, then Jorgie calling out Joe.
2007-09-04 18:53:46
384.   RIYank
380 Viz's last appearance was really bad. This is a good place to get him to... a good place.
2007-09-04 18:54:04
385.   yankz
It doesn't appear that he was hurt or anything. I wonder why Posada called him back out?

Or was this all a clever ruse to buy more time?

2007-09-04 18:54:30
386.   yankz
Kay says it must be an injury. AKA Fuck.
2007-09-04 18:54:44
387.   rsmith51
So Britton only comes in a losing blowout? I think I got it now.
2007-09-04 18:54:52
388.   JeremyM
Why Vizcaino? This really irks me.
2007-09-04 18:55:25
389.   Mattpat11
386 Hopefully Kay's long history of being a moron will win out.
2007-09-04 18:56:08
390.   RIYank
M's waving the white flag.
2007-09-04 18:56:23
391.   Sliced Bread
They should bring in Joba if only to fire a couple warning shots over Ichiro's or some other unsuspecting Mariner's bow.

Isn't that what ESPN would have us to believe happened against Boston?

2007-09-04 18:56:48
392.   yankz
I would do anything just to strike out on 3 pitches, once, in a Yankees major league game.
2007-09-04 18:57:13
393.   yankz
391 Ichiro flashed Arod his sexy eyes, he didn't like that. Plunk him.
2007-09-04 18:57:38
394.   pistolpete
If Wang's out for the season because Torre put him out there for ONE more batter with an 11-1 lead, he really deserves to be shown the door.
2007-09-04 18:58:00
395.   rsmith51
389 Well he did say that Ichiro could command $25 mill/year deal through free agency.
2007-09-04 18:58:18
396.   yankz
If Wang, Clemens, and Arod all got hurt within two days...
2007-09-04 18:58:42
397.   JeremyM
394 Let's not jump to conclusions yet...mainly because it's too scary to contemplate.
2007-09-04 18:58:47
398.   weeping for brunnhilde
392 Can you imagine how terrifying it must be to stand in there?

You're taking your life in your hands.

2007-09-04 18:59:58
399.   yankz
Al: "The only 2 lefties out of 7"

He does realize that's a much higher % compared to the rest of the world, right?

2007-09-04 19:00:45
400.   Mattpat11
395 I firmly believe most general managers are morons. He could get it.

However, while I wouldn't give him 25, but I think his skills out of CF are pretty damn valuable, combined with the money he'll bring in.

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2007-09-04 19:00:50
401.   weeping for brunnhilde
What the hell is Jorgie still doing in there, btw?
2007-09-04 19:00:56
402.   yankz
398 I don't care.

I would even do anything just to play right field for one batter (who gets struck out).

2007-09-04 19:01:23
403.   OldYanksFan
Detroit down by 2 with 3 outs to go.
Can the White Sox hold on?
2007-09-04 19:02:24
404.   RIYank
400 But his CF skills, all his OF skills, will be declining. Maybe rapidly. (Sound familiar?)
2007-09-04 19:02:24
405.   yankz
I just had this horrible vision of the future, one where Mo has to come into this game.
2007-09-04 19:02:53
406.   yankz
404 Yeah, Melky has been slumping lately.
2007-09-04 19:03:11
407.   OldYanksFan
Is Vladamir a typical Black name?
2007-09-04 19:03:14
408.   JeremyM
I got in a cage last summer on vacation, it had been a few years but I thought I'd whack a couple to show off for my fiance. The machine said 70, and I wasn't thinking but it was setup about 40 feet from machine to plate. Yeah, no showing off for me. I did foul one back, but I'd be lying if I said I saw much more than a blur. It was a nice taste of humble pie for me.
2007-09-04 19:03:34
409.   Mattpat11
Kay, I've scored Tony LaRussa managed ball games. This is child's play.
2007-09-04 19:04:38
410.   yankz
408 I'd try bunting, but I'd be so terrified of getting plunked on the hands.
2007-09-04 19:04:52
411.   RIYank
So, this was a good situation for Vizcaino after all.
2007-09-04 19:05:20
412.   yankz
Please...no Mo today.
2007-09-04 19:06:06
413.   yankz
Joe is livid.
2007-09-04 19:06:23
414.   weeping for brunnhilde
Wow, another pitching change.

BRuney it is.

That was Bruney, right?

405 Take it back.

Now.

2007-09-04 19:06:27
415.   monkeypants
This pitching change is a joke, right?
2007-09-04 19:06:33
416.   JeremyM
402 I agree man, I'm jealous of Moonlight Graham's career myself. Remember David Parrish? Probably not, he was Lance Parrish's son and he was called up for about 3 days with the Yanks a few years ago but never saw game action. He's never gotten close to coming up again. I really felt for that guy.
2007-09-04 19:06:36
417.   Matt J
Who is this plucky Britton fellow? He looks like he throws a saucy hardball, what ho.
2007-09-04 19:08:18
418.   OldYanksFan
Wow... Torre takes out ARod for the AG, and now the BP is choking. If Seattle comes back here, this would definitely be a Torre loss! {:-)
2007-09-04 19:08:18
419.   weeping for brunnhilde
Right, not Bruney, Britton.

I can't tell those two apart.

2007-09-04 19:08:32
420.   nyyfan22
Anyone ever see a manager go out to yank a pitcher and the pitcher refuses to go? Or they get into a fight?

I think that would be hilarious.

2007-09-04 19:08:48
421.   Mattpat11
Nice play Bobby.
2007-09-04 19:08:50
422.   weeping for brunnhilde
ha ha hah ah aha ah !!!

Oh, Bobby and His Wall!

ha hah ah ah !

2007-09-04 19:09:13
423.   yankz
416 What an awesome B-R page:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/grahamo01.shtml

2007-09-04 19:09:34
424.   Mattpat11
420 Mike Mussina last year.

Ted Lilly and John Gibbons got into a brawl last year.

2007-09-04 19:10:07
425.   mehmattski
Wait. I thought it was impossible for overweight men who don't throw 100 mph to retire major league hitters. Explain!
2007-09-04 19:10:29
426.   weeping for brunnhilde
420 Of course, good old Mike!

He screamed at Joe from the mound, causing the manager to put his hands up deferentially, turn tail and sit his ass back down on the bench.

Classic.

2007-09-04 19:10:32
427.   Matt J
420 Say like, John Gibbons and Ted Lilly last season?
2007-09-04 19:10:33
428.   OldYanksFan
Wow... this guy looks like Youk's ugly little brother.
2007-09-04 19:10:34
429.   rconn23
Outside of Joba and Mo, who are terrific, this bullpen just sickens me. Just...sickens me. Viz is done. Done.

And there is nothing we can do about it.

Bruney sucks. Britton looks like Bruney. Farnsworth is Satan on a mound. Why?

2007-09-04 19:11:20
430.   JeremyM
420 I saw one wave the manager back to the dugout once...:)
2007-09-04 19:11:25
431.   Mattpat11
419 Britton makes Bruney look skinny.
2007-09-04 19:11:36
432.   nyyfan22
424 I remember the Mussina thing last year. He just yelled, "sit down!" and Torre just laughed and returned to the dugout (it was the old Moose - a good outing if I recall correctly).

I mean a knock down drag out, knock his beard off kinda fight.

2007-09-04 19:11:56
433.   weeping for brunnhilde
427 424 I missed the Gibbons and Lilly thing. What happened?
2007-09-04 19:12:39
434.   RIYank
Oh, that's why Jorgie had to stay in.
2007-09-04 19:12:40
435.   Mattpat11
I think kay needs glasses.
2007-09-04 19:12:40
436.   weeping for brunnhilde
Quite a day, Mr. Posada.

Quite a day.

2007-09-04 19:13:07
437.   Mattpat11
432 Gibbons and Lilly.
2007-09-04 19:14:19
438.   redking
Any word on why Wang was taken out?
2007-09-04 19:14:25
439.   nyyfan22
437 Damn, nothing on youtube. Any video of it?
2007-09-04 19:15:20
440.   Mattpat11
433 Lilly refused to give him the ball, and eventually stormed off the field. Gibbons followed him into the tunnel and punches were thrown.
2007-09-04 19:15:52
441.   weeping for brunnhilde
438 Kay promises that Kim Jones will tell us all about it...
2007-09-04 19:15:53
442.   RIYank
Joba's warming.
2007-09-04 19:15:59
443.   Zack
Britton is better than Bruney and has a track record to prove it. The problem is that I think Torre thinks they are the same person...
2007-09-04 19:16:29
444.   yankz
Wait, Joba for the 9th? Wha?
2007-09-04 19:16:30
445.   Zack
JESUS JOE WHY WOULD YOU BRING IN JOBA HERE? Even if tomorrow is a blow out he can pitch tomorrow with the day off.
2007-09-04 19:16:35
446.   mehmattski
That's the seventh time Jorge has homered from both sides of the plate in the same game. He's now one behind Bernie and Tony Clark for second all time for this feat.
2007-09-04 19:16:36
447.   nemecizer
Hopefully this game means the team is starting to hit again. We need to rock the rest of September.
2007-09-04 19:16:54
448.   Mattpat11
443 Perhaps Torre thinks Britton ate Bruney.
2007-09-04 19:16:58
449.   Zack
Can Cashman call down and tell Joe not to use Joba here?

This is going to piss me off so much

2007-09-04 19:17:23
450.   OldYanksFan
Oh oh... there's gonna be some serious screaming here now...
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2007-09-04 19:17:29
451.   pistolpete
OMFG Torre's lost his f*cking mind.
2007-09-04 19:17:37
452.   yankz
446 I'm assuming that's all time, not just Yanks, right? Because there's no way Clark did that with NYY...
2007-09-04 19:17:56
453.   Zack
I really really really really don't get Joe Torre. So who does he have for tomorrow now? Bruney Farnsworth and Veras? Whoopie. How can you not have Britton finish the game here?
2007-09-04 19:17:58
454.   RIYank
This would be a great time for Farns to give up two runs.
2007-09-04 19:17:59
455.   yankz
445 AND WHAT IF ITS NOT A BLOWOUT!
2007-09-04 19:17:59
456.   rsmith51
Putting in Joba is ridiculous. It is more likely they will need him tomorrow. What the heck is Torre thinking?
2007-09-04 19:18:05
457.   weeping for brunnhilde
What???????????????????????

What the MOTHERFUCK?????????????

Joba's coming in???

For fucking fuck's sake, why???

Has tomorrow's game been called off and no one told me?

Does Joe have a secret deal with Seattle whereby they'll try not to score tomorrow?

Does Joe know something about Hughes the rest of us don't, like he suddenly throws 140mph with pinpoint control?

What.

The.

Fuck?

2007-09-04 19:18:55
458.   RIYank
Okay! Ye of little faith.
2007-09-04 19:18:56
459.   weeping for brunnhilde
Oh, thank God.

Nice play, Derek.

Ok, I'm exhaling now.

2007-09-04 19:19:02
460.   Zack
Ok, so Joba was warming for no reason?
2007-09-04 19:19:03
461.   williamnyy23
Had Joba been brought into those game, I would have fired Joe before morning.
2007-09-04 19:19:03
462.   Mattpat11
Joba got fat.
2007-09-04 19:19:06
463.   mehmattski
Ok guys, breathe.
2007-09-04 19:19:11
464.   yankz
Oh, fuck you Kay.
2007-09-04 19:19:29
465.   JeremyM
Tigers lost by the way, 3-1. Casey made the last out with 2 runners on.
2007-09-04 19:19:30
466.   RIYank
That Damon kid can really play.
2007-09-04 19:19:47
467.   yankz
461 I had no idea Steinbrenner hung out around here. Cool, can I get a job? As the RF maybe?
2007-09-04 19:20:09
468.   rsmith51
Torre, you passed! Thank you!
2007-09-04 19:20:16
469.   weeping for brunnhilde
Nice play, Johnny!

ha ha hah aha hah ah ah ah ah1!!!!!!!1

I'm cracking up about this Joba business.

Joe's just fucking with us, I think.

He wanted to see how many heads he could explode by having Joba throw a couple of practice pitches.

Ha ha, Joe, good one, we get it!

2007-09-04 19:21:03
470.   weeping for brunnhilde
Of course, what does it say that it actually seemed plausible that Joe would in fact do such a thing?

ha ha hah ah ah a aha hah ha hah !!

2007-09-04 19:21:57
471.   williamnyy23
467 Only if you are willing to make contact with the wall.
2007-09-04 19:22:11
472.   OldYanksFan
Now Mo is warming in the pen... just in case.
2007-09-04 19:22:14
473.   mehmattski
452 Yes, all time. The leaders:

Mickey Mantle (10)
Ken Caminiti (10)
Chili Davis (10)
Bernie Williams (8)
Tony Clark (8)
Jorge Posada (7)

2007-09-04 19:22:43
474.   rsmith51
The only part I don't like about Damon LF, Matsui DH, and Giambi 1b is that Minky will probably come up in a big offensive situation after being substituted defensively. I suppose it is better than getting 3 P.A. from Minky.
2007-09-04 19:22:49
475.   Zack
Had Torre actually brought in Joba it would have confirmed that he's lost his mind. At least it means he doesn't think that Britton bruney AND Joba are the same person
2007-09-04 19:24:04
476.   rsmith51
Back to a 2 game lead. Any news on Wang?
2007-09-04 19:24:34
477.   Zack
Wang now leads the league in Ws
2007-09-04 19:25:31
478.   Matt J
OK, Posada says Wang was just tight after the long time off. Whew.
2007-09-04 19:26:21
479.   yankz
478 Oh thank the stars.
2007-09-04 19:27:45
480.   Matt J
479 Yeah, but now I owe my soul to Satan. Meh, coulda done worse.
2007-09-04 19:28:17
481.   RIYank
477 Beckett didn't get the win tonight?
2007-09-04 19:28:17
482.   pistolpete
477 Loving that. Josh who?
2007-09-04 19:34:01
483.   Max
Great night. Alex 1 called it all the way.

Oh, and even though there were many more meaningful highlights, that play by Damon in the ninth was pretty sweet looking.

Now we nervously await to see if Franchise and Joba and Mo, hopefully with some revived bats, can carry us tomorrow.

2007-09-04 19:38:33
484.   weeping for brunnhilde
483 Especially coming as it did on the heels of Abreu's mirror-image non-play in the previous inning.
2007-09-04 19:50:35
485.   OldYanksFan
New thread up.

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