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2007-07-20 20:36
by Alex Belth

The Yanks not only got smoked by the Rays tonight, they used up six pitchers in the process. Moose was terrible and Edwar Ramirez wasn't much better and when it was all over, the Rays won 14-4. To make matters worse, the Sox rolled tonight, and just like that, the Yanks are eight games out again. With a killer double header tomorrow. Who is gunna pitch if things get dicey? Oh man, it could be a long weekend.

You may commiserate in the comments section below.

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2007-07-20 21:27:45
1.   joejoejoe
Is it just a statistical fluke that Mussina is awful pitching to Posada this year and good pitching to Nieves? Did Moose pitch to the Sal Fasano Experience last year or Jorge?
2007-07-20 21:41:41
2.   Cliff Corcoran
I'd say it's more in Mussina's head than anything else, which seems to count for a lot. Moose has certainly not spent the last six seasons pitching to backup catchers. This is new for '07.
2007-07-20 21:42:16
3.   rconn23
My sadness about this humiliating loss is balanced with enthusiasm about the future, namely a rotation of Hughes, Chamberlain, Wang and maybe, just maybe Kennedy.

My feeling here is that Kennedy might be the most likely to be traded, but if he is, I hope it's for a Teixera and not Octavio Dotel or Wilson Betemit.

These things need to happen. Much of this team needs to be scrapped. We need a cleansing.

1)Abreu gone. We can surely find a RF who will venture towards the wall and make a catch. One who also can break 20 HR. Abreu is not worth picking up a $16 million option.

2) Mussina's arm is shot. He needs to retire.His fastball barely reached 90 and his location is gone. This is a pipe dream, I know.

3.)The bullpen with the exception of Mo need to be scrapped.Hopefully internal options like J.B Cox (remember him?) and Humberto Sanchez can fill the void. We need yound nasty power arms, not relievers with bad deliveries and flat fastballs.

4.) Sign Tori Hunter, but only if it is no more than a 4- year deal.

5.) Resign Mo and Posada. Resign A Rod, but don't get caught up in a bidding frenzy and set the market at $30 mil a year.

6.) Find a first baseman with power.

7.) Hire Joe Girardi as manager. Someone who will light a fire under this team, especially under Cadillac Cano and cultivate the younger players. Torre must go. How can this be argued?

2007-07-20 21:53:31
4.   monkeypants
3 "4.) Sign Tori Hunter, but only if it is no more than a 4- year deal."

Just say no. A career mediocre player with a flaky good season at age 31? This the exact kind of player has tricked the Yankees in the past. Avoid.

2007-07-20 22:04:49
5.   tommyl
I posted in this in the previous thread, but I was at the game so I thought I'd share:

Just got back from the game. That is honestly the worst game I have ever been witness too.

Impressions:

Duncan, I missed his basehit (left already). His first K was bad. His second, he missed a HR by a few feet on the second strike. He crushed that ball. He's going to K a lot (long swing), but he could mash. Good potential power threat.

Edwar, yikes. I think that was the first time in my life I've actually felt bad for a major league baseball player. I mean, really, really bad. I found myself scrunching down in my seat as the crowd turned on him (and man, did they turn on him). From where I was sitting it was hard to tell how much he was missing by, but he was clearly very, very rusty. I blame most of this on Joe, but I think he threw about 2 or 3 strikes, and one of them was hit about 400 ft. Its too bad, but I think we won't see him again, at least not until the 40 man gets called up. Its sort of the pitching equivalent of Andy Phillips 5K night against Kazmir (stupid D-Rays).

That entire game from the second inning on, was sheer torture. Jackson was made to look like Pedro Martinez, and awful, awful fundamentals from our side. I'm actually depressed from being there right now.

2007-07-21 01:17:00
6.   joejoejoe
This team reminds me of a good horse that is all over the track, wide in the first turn, wide in the second. You get the feeling that the horse has a kick left in it for the homestretch but wonder if the bad ride* is going to cost you finishing in the money.

*a bad ride in this case being 300 ABs of woeful first basemen, awful bullpen usage, a silly roster composition for 60% of the season, and a ton of injuries to the back-end SP

2007-07-21 03:55:25
7.   OldYanksFan
I guess we hope for a split today and that every BP pitcher still has two arms after this series, right? Right???
2007-07-21 04:59:35
8.   ny2ca2dc
Edwar's work reminded me a lot of Colter Bean's last appearance - just could not find the strike zone, and it wasn't even close. I don't blame Joe, per se, I mean, the fucking guy came on and walked 4 guys & gave up a grand slam without getting even one out, but he DID come in to a pressure situation - try and stop the bleeding and all.... Maybe we'll all look back on this in 3 years after Edwar has blossomed into the best setup man in baseball and realize this was when be grew up, and learned to throw strikes and be tough mentally.

Right.

2007-07-21 06:00:26
9.   Raf
3 Yanks don't need someone to light a fire under the team, they need Damon and Abreu playing up to their career levels, for starters.
2007-07-21 06:11:40
10.   Jim Dean
3

1) Who? Andruw is going to be much, much more expensive. Same deal with Dye and Hunter. Indeed (your #4 - Hunter at 4 years) is going to cost 50+ million. Why spend that when they can have Abreu for 16 million and see if Melky, Tabata, or even Jackson (who's smoking hot in Tampa) will show enough power next year to take over RF in 2009. If not, they could go for Manny or Vlad as RF/DH - both are free agents after next year. Point is: They can overpay Abreu for one year, or they can overpay another turd for four or five years. I'd rather the former to wait and see what they have in the system.

2) Acknowledged pipe dream - move on.

3) Sanchez won't be ready next year. But between Edwar, Britton, Beam, Henn, Kozlowski, Robertson, even Patterson - they could fill in the bullpen fine. Probably another pipe dream though.

4) Um, no - see #2.

5) They will. A-Rod won't opt out either, but he will get that 30 million/year (or very close to it) in an extension.

6) Good luck there. It's the same dregs as last year (still better than Mghkjf) or someone like a Teixeira or Sexson in a trade. I'd be fine with a one-year rental of Sexson then see if Juan Miranda is ready for 2009 or Eric Duncan finds his potential.

7) It can't. I'm not convinced on Girardi but he's fine as the guy that follows Joe. Then in three years they can get the guy that follows the guy that follows Joe.

2007-07-21 06:12:42
11.   vockins
3 Signing Torii Hunter for four years is the kind of move that will make me start watching the Mets a lot more.
2007-07-21 06:13:48
12.   Jim Dean
I really hope they throw Edwar out there today. Competition is the best medicine.

But if the game is close, I can't see it happening - not by Joe.

2007-07-21 06:33:17
13.   monkeypants
3"1)Abreu gone. We can surely find a RF who will venture towards the wall and make a catch. One who also can break 20 HR. Abreu is not worth picking up a $16 million option."

Not picking up Abreu's option is another reason why talk of moving Matui to 1B (was that OldYanksFan?) is impractical. I agree that there is little chance they pick up the option. That leaves a starting OF of Matsui, Damon, and Cabrera; I'm not sure they want to move one of the OF to 1B, assuming that MAtsui can make the transition.

2007-07-21 06:52:43
14.   Sliced Bread
What a drag it is watching Moose and Damon these days.

Damon, I feel for. It's kinda like rooting for a lost Cub Scout to find his way out of the deep, dark woods. "Use your compass, Johnny! It's in your backpack!"

Sourpuss Moose, on the other hand, makes me want to change the channel. I'm almost hoping he punches a clubhouse wall Kevin Brown stylee, so we don't have to suffer another of his miserable games.

As for today, I'm waterskiing and beaching with the wife and kids. I'll have the Lumpy & Chuckles Radio Show on in the background, but refuse to let Game 1 ruin my day if it gets ugly.

You think our old friend Bernie Williams is watching the games these days? No, nor do I.

2007-07-21 07:20:58
15.   debris
5 So are you saying that Shelley Duncan is a Wily Mo in the making? Sure looked like him last night.

12 Edwar will not be on the roster today and, hence, won't have the opportunity. I've read that he'll be optioned this morning to make room for the immortal Matt DeSalvo.

2007-07-21 07:29:04
16.   monkeypants
15 Re: Edwar. If so, that's crazy. Igawa can't go deep into games and they used six pitchers last night. Edwar should be kept around as fodder, or sent down and replaced by another BP arm. Then Igawa (or the new BP arm or Edwar) should be optioned down after Game 1 to clear a roster spot for DeSalvo.
2007-07-21 07:31:08
17.   Jim Dean
15 They don't have to option anyone before Game 1 - the immortal Kei Igawa starts.

Then for Game 2 they'll option Edwar or perhaps Igawa.

2007-07-21 08:21:03
18.   OldYanksFan
1. Posted by OldYanksFan
Bobby currently has an OPS of .750. Even if he has a good 2nd half and raises it to .850, combined with poor defense, I don't think anyone will offer $16m on the FA market.

It is possible to renegotiate the option to $11-13m. At this price, one year is a solid decision. Bobby may be happy (ala Garciapara) to have one 'low paid' year, to re-establish his reputation.

Matsui is described as 'solid' in LF, but he's solidly below average. Melky has shown us the importance of good D in the OF. My idea of moving Mats to 1B is ONLY if we don't get Tex or another impact 1Bman, and our 2008 choices are JD, Andy, DougOut, Miggy, etc. Even with a worse arm, I think JD is a substancially better OFer then Mats. At least the guy is not afraid of the wall or of diving for the ball.

I agree with Jim 10 (get me my meds!) that long contracts on 'marginally good' players is a mistake. I don't know if the FA market is now permanently overpriced as more teams are locking up young players, but I think you have to pick and choose very carefully.

Moose will be a fine #4 or $5 guy next year. Andy, Moose, Wang, Hughes and the best of the rest (of kids) gives us a good and deep rotation. And there should be plenty of leftovers for the BP. For the first time in many years, we don't have to shop pitching. If we can get one impact arm for the BP, great... but at least we won't be 'blackmailed' with a desperate need to get pitching.

I assume the 2008 starting players will be similar to what we have now. Giambi, unless he proves to be unhealthy, is our DH. Andy should hopefully be our BUIF guy, and maybe platoon against lefties at 1B. JD/Mats at LF/1B.

We need a BUC and another OFer if Abreu leaves. If JD and Giambi can walk, I don't see the team benching either.

As is, our SP next year should be as good or better then Bostons, and if ARod stays, our offense is better. After 2008, Pettitte, Giambi and Moose are gone. Abreu is either gone, or back to being a premiere hitter. JD is in his last year, and it may be 'acceptable' for him to be a 4th OFer, BU1B, and Bench guy. Our farm will be one year older. At that point, I can see some major changes, but (based on current contracts) I can't see that many changes for 2008. I can see one impact arm for the BP and one impact bat.

2007-07-21 08:39:17
19.   Jim Dean
18 If Abreu bounces back to .850 OPS in the second half, I can easily see him getting a three or four year deal at 40 million. But the Yanks won't be faced with that because they have to make a decision on the option before the market opens. Bottomline: I'd rather they overpay for one year of Abreu then see what happens with Melky, Tabata, and Jackson next year. Worse case: They sign Manny of Vlad as a RF/DH next off-season. With Giambi off the books - they'll have the salary and position opening.

Matsui at 1B I have no problem with, but they should use it as a chance to move Jeter to LF (pipe dreams). [More pipe dreams - move A-Rod back to SS and get Lowell for 3B - better IF and OF defense, better lineup balance, and solves 1B].

As it is, that saves some of the prospects to trade for Santana (or even Peavy) next summer (as they approach free agency) rather than using them to get a Teixeira or Sexson.

2007-07-21 08:53:18
20.   dlewanda
What a dispirited game - I live in South Jersey, just in range of the "Lumpy & Chuckles Radio Show" - nice 14 - and heard the first inning and it sounded like Mussina was spotting his less-than-90-mph fastball and Jackson was wild, walking Damon. Imagine my surprise getting back in the car after running some errands.

That said, I had a couple questions I've been meaning to put out there that I hope could be answered.
1) Excluding the obvious candidates (Girardi and Mattingly), who would make you guys happy as the manager to take over for Torre? Since this is hypothetical, feel free to include anyone under contract by another team, major or minor leagues. I held on as a Torre supporter for a long time, but I now agree he needs to go. I'm just not sure I can name anyone else who wouldn't annoy us all any less.
2) Has there been any inkling that Matsui would even accommodate a move to 1st base? I know he's willing to do anything for the team, but is he even physically able to do it? I agree his struggles this year are getting hard to watch, but he did suffer a serious wrist injury that will take time to heal and rebuild strength.

19 If Jeter were to ever move from SS, I think he'd have to be put in CF because he would still be in a "quarterbacking" position. His offensive profile also fits better as a CF than a corner (not enough power). I would be okay with Melky in RF with his arm as an Abreu-like player, batting 7-9, but I don't see benefits to playing Melky in left - it limits the benefits of his defensive abilities.

2007-07-21 09:06:25
21.   Jim Dean
Jeter may not hit homeruns, but he's a bigger offensive threat than Matsui. And a better defender. Indeed, of all the qualifying LF's this year, Jeter would be above average - better than Soriano and Matsui and just below Lee and Manny.

Plus, I don't think he has the arm or speed to play CF anymore.

Again, pipe dream...

AS to your questions, I just don't know on the manager or Matsui. I don't think a manager is all that important in baseball if the GM gives him a great team. The idea of Buck returning intrigues me, but it won't happen. The latter, I can't imagine he'd refuse if they asked him to - he's the guy that apologized for his injury last year.

2007-07-21 09:17:46
22.   OldYanksFan
20 Matsui's problem isn't his wrist, it's his head. He was always terrible at going back, but now, since his injury, he appears very hesitant to dive or slide. I don't expect he will be anything other then league average, at best, at 1B, but hopefully he can adjust. His problems are the wall and diving with a full head of steam. Those won't be issues at 1B. He has a decent arm and a quick release, so he might be decent at the 3-6-3 and doing cut-offs.

I don't really expect it, but it would be a shame to have the speedy and 'courageous' JD at 1st, while Mats still mans LF.

2007-07-21 09:18:51
23.   vockins
Which game today is the makeup game for which Rays rainout? I had tickets for both, but I bought them scalped, so they're not tranferable.
2007-07-21 09:29:28
24.   Jim Dean
Cabrera CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui LF
Posada C
Cano 2B
Phillips 1B
Duncan DH

Can't argue too much with that. Hopefully Jorge DH's the second game.

And Pete has good notes on Edwar getting a pep talk and the Proctor-for-Wigginton rumor.

2007-07-21 09:31:01
25.   monkeypants
22 The only fly in the ointment is that the speedy and courageous Damon is increasingly less speedy in the OF (though still a heck of a baserunner), and he can barely roll the ball in when he "throws."

Everything hinges on A-Rod, who will have to decide within 10 days of the end of the season. If he opts out, he's gone, but at least the team needs become clarified: they will have to pick up a major stud bat, whether at corner IF or corner OF. The position won't matter as much as the offense, and then the team will have to shuffle around that.

Whatever the case, they shouldn't make the mistake they did this year (and the last few), which is identify needs to narrowly ("we need a RH defensive 1B"), so that they go for a mediocre at best "fit" instead of a better, more creative solution. With Torre gone (hopefully), the impetus for "fit" players will be lessened.

2007-07-21 09:32:31
26.   rconn23
10. Two options for RF in 08. Jose Guillien and
Fukodome from Japan. Granted, not much is known about Fukodome, but he does have great power numbers and just because Matsui's HR totals haven't translated, doesn't mean that his won't.

And Guillien would be cheap, and could probably be talked into a 2 year deal. He's hitting cleanup for the Mariners, last I heard.

The problem with the Yanks this year is that management has tried "Let's throw it against the wall and see if it sticks" philosophy.

Shelly Duncan and Andy Phillips are just a couple of examples. Two career minor leaguers that they hope they catch lightning in a bottle with.
Because Phillips has scraped together couple of key hits, everyone is in love with him,whereas two weeks ago they were to ready to send him back down. How quickly we forget.

2007-07-21 09:45:27
27.   weeping for brunnhilde
I'm going to go do some work and catch up with you guys in the middle innings.

Let's hope it's still a ballgame by then, eh?

Maybe I'll try to catch Duncan's first ab; the team's play of late has me feeling strangely masochistic.

;)

2007-07-21 09:50:15
28.   monkeypants
22 As for Matsui's defense this year, I wonder it it's our perception over reality. To borrow from Jim Dean's book (gasp again), what do the defensive metrics say, rather than aour selective observations?

This year, his ZR is .832, 12 out of 19 qualified MLB LF according to ESPN, or below average no doubt. In 2005 (the year before his injury) his ZR was .821, good for only 17 out of 18 qualified LF. 2004: .829 ZR, 13/16. In chronological table form:

Zone Rating;
2004: .829 ZR, 13/16
2005: .829 ZR, 17/18
2007: .832 ZR, 12/19

For range factor:
2004, 2.02 RF, 6/16
2005, 2.08 RF, 8/18
2007, 2.07 RF, 5/19

So, looking at the numbers, he has been remarkably consistent over the last few years defensively, and if anything has improved this year. Depending on which stat you choose, he has been consistently below average relative to the league (ZR) or consistently above average (RF). I'll opt for ZR and agree that Matsui is not a good LF. But there is no evidence that his play in LF is declining.

2007-07-21 09:53:32
29.   Jim Dean
26 I was going to mention Fukudome. He numbers in Japan are very close to what Matsui had but supposedly with a better arm. However, he would be be two years older coming over, and while he could probably be had more cheaply than Jones, Dye, Or Hunter. I suspect that the Yanks would look into him if they decline Abreu's option.

Guillien is a decent cheap option, but I suspect he's too combustible for the Yankee liking.

Mike Lamb could also work at 1B.

And the problem with Phillips and Duncan isn't that the Yankees tried them. It's that they waited so long to do so. For Duncan that's this year, for Phillips it's much worse. He should have been given a legit shot in 2004 or 2005 when he was close to his peak.

2007-07-21 09:56:17
30.   monkeypants
28 As for his weak arm, consider Matsui's outfield assists.

2004: 8 assists (8/16)
2005: 7 assists (7/18, tied with three other players)
2007: 5 assists (5/19, but tied with six other players!)

Now maybe teams run on him and challenge him more because of his weak arm, so he picks up a few extra assists. But the numbers again suggest middle of the pack consistency.

2007-07-21 09:57:55
31.   monkeypants
29 Wasn't Mike Lamb on the team for like 3 games a fe years ago?

Excellent point about missing Phllips'/Duncan's peak years.

2007-07-21 09:59:44
32.   Jim Dean
28 Nicely done. I would also add in RATE:

2003: 90 RATE
2004: 95 RATE
2005: 101 RATE
2007: 103 RATE

Amazing how three defensive metrics probably give an accurate assessment! Looks like he is just a a bit below average (98 career RATE).

It sure seems like there's some improvement, but it's hard to know if that's just a small sample size effect (given that the raw ZR and RF numbers haven't changed much). We'll know more in November.

2007-07-21 10:02:59
33.   monkeypants
32 Thanks! Actually, there are few typos in 28 (as usual with me), for example 2005 ZR should be .821 in the table. But that doesn't affect the overall point.
2007-07-21 10:04:37
34.   rconn23
Jim Dean,

Good point about Lamb. I know nothing about hid defense, but he's a pretty fair hitter. Lamb was set to be out third baseman before the A-Rod trade. I can't remember what happened to him though. Did we trade him for a bag of hammers?

2007-07-21 10:08:07
35.   Jim Dean
30 Everything there suggests an average arm to me. And that matches my impression. It's not weak for LF. It would be for RF.

Nothing in Lamb's record to suggest he was ever a Yankee. But he'd provide an average glove and bat.

2007-07-21 10:11:18
36.   monkeypants
From the perverse mind of Joe Torre, via Pete Abe:

Pregame chatter: Joe Torre and Ron Guidry met with Edwar Ramirez this morning to tell him to dismiss last night's outing..."We told him not to doubt his ability," Torre said. Torre said that Ramirez's inactivity was the product of the starters generally doing deep into games, the All-Star break and a lack of opportunity. "We really wanted to get him into a game. There just wasn't one where he could come into," Torre said.

No opportunity? So, he can't pitch in any close games, but you trust his ability, but there were no chances for you to demonstrate that trust.

When asked about the trade deadline, Torre said he was comfortable with Andy Phillips at first base but said the team needed a player they could use in different spots who could give them something offensively.

Let me see, Andy Phillips can play 1B, 2B, and 3B. Wiggington (mentioned in the article) plays 1B, 2B, and 3B, and a whopping 14 games in the OF in 6 years. Is Torre even capable of thinking about about starters as flexible players?

2007-07-21 10:13:15
37.   matt nokes forever
33 Excellent points with the defensive metrics. I think Matsui has done a very decent job of compensating for his below average arm with an above average quick release. The guy really does know (for the most part) exactly where he's throwing the ball all the time, just because of his awareness of who's at bat and who's on the basepaths.

In that vein, I do believe that moving Matsui to 1B should be an option left on the back-burner for as long as possible while the other needs (RF, BP, SP) are addressed conventionally.

2007-07-21 10:13:31
38.   matt nokes forever
Fucking Igawa.
2007-07-21 10:14:17
39.   Jim Dean
34 Lamb has a 99 RATE at 1B for his career. But I don't see anything about the Yankee organization in his record:

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/L/Mike-Lamb.shtml

Meanwhile, BJ is good.

2007-07-21 10:16:16
40.   monkeypants
35 Aha! He was spring trading fodder a few years ago:

Mar 25, 2004: New York Yankees traded Mike Lamb to the Houston Astros for Juan De Leon.
Feb 4, 2004: Texas Rangers traded Mike Lamb to the New York Yankees for Jose Garcia.

Now let's see, in 2004 he hit .288/.356/.511 in 112 games. The Yankees started Tony Clark and John Olerud 111 games at 1B.

2007-07-21 10:17:42
41.   Jim Dean
38 It's amazing but Sterling actually had a good point:

If Igawa is so bad, how does he K a decent number (40 in 51 IP)?

Then he gives up a shot but K's two guys.

Just a weird arm.

2007-07-21 10:18:45
42.   3rd gen yankee fan
36 Yeah, I noticed that too. Especially re: Ramirez, that's when the "BS" chant went off in my head. Also I would prefer to see the team's loyalty to a guy like Andy -- at least for the short term! -- and have them focus on shoring up other areas, like pitching for crissakes...

I guess I can only say I'm THRILLED that Damon is sitting for this game...

2007-07-21 10:18:53
43.   matt nokes forever
Mike Lamb

*February 5, 2004: Traded by the Texas Rangers to the New York Yankees for Jose Garcia.

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