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2007-07-02 08:29
by Cliff Corcoran

The 1995 season was shortened to 144 games because of the previous year's strike. After 73 games, one game past the season's half-way point, the Yankees were seven games under .500 (33-40), in fourth place in the AL East 7.5 games behind the division-leading Red Sox and ten games out of the Wild Card behind eight other teams.

At the end of this week's four-game series against the Twins the Yankees will have played 82 games, one game more than half of the season. They are currently four games under .500 (37-41), in third place in the AL East 11 games behind the division-leading Red Sox and nine games out of the Wild Card behind five other teams.

In 1995 the Yankees won the Wild Card after signing Darryl Strawberry in late-June, swapping Danny Tartabull out for Ruben Sierra, and acquiring David Cone for a trio of minor leaguers at the trading deadline. Sierra represented only a modest improvement over Tartabull, but Strawberry, who joined the major league team in early August, represented a significant improvement over Luis Polonia, whom the Yankees promptly dumped on the Braves. Meanwhile Cone and Scott Kamieniecki completed a rotation that had been only three deep since Jimmy Key and Melido Perez went down to injury in May and June respectively.

Still, it took a nearly miraculous 25-6 stretch run combined with a similarly staggering collapse by the AL West-leading Angels (who lost 28 of 37 before rallying to force a one-game playoff with Seattle) and an otherwise weak league (just one other non-division winner finished with a winning record) for the Yankees to sneak into the postseason in 1995. This year will not be 1995 all over again. There's only one spot to fill in the rotation and the Yankees won't fill it with the defending Cy Young Award winner. There are no superstar reclamation projects toiling in the independent leagues (the closest the Yankees could come would be Clemens, who is already here). Meanwhile, the teams they're trying to chase are not only good, but should get better.

Take the Twins, for example. Everyone and their mother knew that Sidney Ponson and Ramon Ortiz would be replaced in the rotation two of the organization's four strong triple-A starters by now and indeed they have. Meanwhile, Johan Santana is a notoriously dominant second-half pitcher. Meanwhile, last year's batting champ, Joe Mauer, is back after missing most of May due to injury and hitting .267/.380/.517 since June 16, and there's still room for improvement at third base, designated hitter, and in Ron Gardenhire's lineup construction.

The improvements in the rotation are the most dangerous however, as the Big Three in the Minnesota bullpen, Joe Nathan, Sideshow Pat Neshek, and Matt Guerrier, have been flat out dominant, combining for a 1.82 ERA, 8.9 K/9 and a 0.93 WHIP in 123 1/3 innings. That means opponents have six innings get a lead, which is a tougher trick without Ponson and Ortiz to kick around.

Tonight the Yankees try to get ahead against Boof Bonser, who hasn't turned in a quality start in his last five tries, posting a 6.91 ERA over that span as opposing batters have hit .328/.362/.529 against him. The Yanks gave Boof his worst going over of the season back on April 10 when they plated seven runs off him, knocking him out in the fifth. Ah, remember that series? The Yankees had opened with a disappointing 2-3 showing on their opening home stand, but we all blamed it on the cold and were convinced we were right when they beat the Twins 18-3 in their first two games indoors in Minnesota behind strong outings by Andy Pettitte and . . . Carl Pavano? Seems like a lifetime ago now.

Rocket Clemens takes the hill for the Yanks looking to rebound from the 7.15 ERA he's posted in his last three outings (two starts, one relief inning). The Yankees, who trail the Twins by four games in the Wild Card hunt, could really use a sweep this week, as unlikely as that may be. If nothing else they need to win the three games not started by Johan Santana, who was a 16-year-old free agent signee by the Houston Astros in 1995. Times have changed folks.

Minnesota Twins

2007 Record: 42-38 (.525)
2007 Pythagorean Record: 43-37 (.544)

Manager: Ron Gardenhire
General Manager: Terry Ryan

Home Ballpark (2007 Park Factors): Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome (98/98)

Who's Replacing Whom?

Lew Ford (DL) replaces Josh Rabe (DL)
Jeff Cirillo (DL) replaces Alexi Casilla (minors)
Scott Baker (minors) replaces Sidney Ponson
Kevin Slowey (minors) replaces Ramon Ortiz in the rotation, who replaces Jesse Crain (DL) in the bullpen
Matt Garza (minors) replaces Chris Heintz (minors)

25-man Roster

1B - Justin Morneau (L)
2B - Luis Castillo (S)
SS - Jason Bartlett (S)
3B - Nick Punto (S)
C - Joe Mauer (L)
RF - Michael Cuddyer (R)
CF - Torii Hunter (R)
LF - Jason Kubel (L)
DH - (bench)*

Bench:

R - Jeff Cirillo (IF)
R - Lew Ford (OF)
L - Jason Tyner (OF)
R - Mike Redmond (C)
S - Luis Rodriguez (IF)

Rotation:

L - Johan Santana
R - Kevin Slowey
R - Scott Baker
R - Boof Bonser
R - Carlos Silva

Bullpen:

R - Joe Nathan
R - Pat Neshek
R - Matt Guerrier
R - Juan Rincon
L - Dennys Reyes
R - Ramon Ortiz
R - Matt Garza

15-day DL: R - Rondell White (LF), R - Josh Rabe (OF), L - Glen Perkins
60-day DL: L - Francisco Liriano, R - Jesse Crain, S - Alejandro Machado (IF)

Lineup:

S - Luis Castillo (2B)
S - Jason Bartlett (SS)
L - Joe Mauer (C)
R - Michael Cuddyer (RF)
L - Justin Morneau (1B)
R - Torii Hunter (CF)
L - Jason Kubel (LF)
* Designated Hitter
S - Nick Punto (3B)

*The Twins use the DH slot as a rotating position to rest Mauer, Kubel, and Morneau, but also to distribute playing time to Redmond, Tyner, and Cirillo. Luis Rodriguez is the only member of the Twins bench who doesn't start semi-regularly as a result of this rotation.

Comments (172)
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2007-07-02 12:35:15
1.   Count Zero
Sigh...it won't be the same without the Bat Girl.
2007-07-02 12:37:19
2.   Zack
Its amazing that if the Yankees could even have played .500 ball during this last stretch, they would be not only in the WC race but in the division race, as the Red Sox seem to have realized that they aren't as good as their lead indicates...It's gotten to the point where I am justifing why I am watching. Take tonight. My thinking being: oh well, I suppose I'll watch tonight to see if Ramirez pitches as Torre used the entire BP last night. Obviously EDSP will be good for 2 tonight though...
2007-07-02 12:56:00
3.   yankz
Do the comments look extra tiny to everybody else?
2007-07-02 13:06:23
4.   Cliff Corcoran
3 My fault, I failed to close a tag on that footnote--though I kinda liked them small like that.
2007-07-02 13:07:02
5.   yankz
4 Yeah, I didn't mind, and I'm guessing it would let us post longer URL's. Ah well.
2007-07-02 13:07:38
6.   yankz
Also Cliff, can we expect the usual "My All Star picks" post coming up?
2007-07-02 13:09:45
7.   rbj
Sigh. I'll watch, but it seems more like a chore these days. It would be nice if the Yankees switched up and actually hit, pitched and fielded all in the same game.
2007-07-02 13:14:38
8.   mehmattski
Seventeen years ago yesterday, the Yankees starter threw a no-hitter and the Yankees lost. It can't get any worse than that, can it?
2007-07-02 13:20:51
9.   rbj
8 I can't see a guy pitching a perfect game and losing. Still, better not tempt the Fates with injuries and such.
2007-07-02 13:25:42
10.   yankz
8 How about throwing a no-hitter and losing while the other pitcher throws a perfecto?

I think these guys could pull it off.

2007-07-02 13:26:26
11.   williamnyy23
The sense that watching these games has become a chore born of obligation is precisely why I loathe the notion of "WS or bust" and the suggestion that the Yankees have failed since 2001. Being in and winning pennant races (close ones or landslides) is immensely enjoyable and, therefore, inherently rewarding. Unfortunately, we often don't realize how good we Yankee fans have had it until a season like this one rolls along.
2007-07-02 13:35:26
12.   monkeypants
Lineup according to LoHud:

Damon DH
Cabrera CF
Jeter SS
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Matsui LF
Abreu RF
Phillips 1B
Cano 2B
Clemens RHP (1-3, 5.32)

In general I heartily approve of Jeter batting #3, but going by the last few lineup changes, does Torre see #3 as the spot for slumping players to "break out of it"?

Why isn't A-Rod batting #3, not that it really matters all that much.

2007-07-02 13:37:42
13.   mehmattski
11 Well it's taking me a bit of adjustment to return to the way I watched games before 2002 or so. Back then, a baseball game was a relaxing part of an evening, and at least until October came around, an event whose outcome didn't really matter. It was enjoyable to watch baseball. Even more so in my hazy memories of pre-1996 Yankees games, the focus was on throw the ball, hit the ball, catch the ball. But then something changed when Luis Gonzalez looped a single over Jeter's head, and even more so when David Ortiz buried a pitch into the Fenway bullpen. For some reason, it turned me into the sort of fan who needs his team to win, every day in the regular season. And you're right, it's an unhealthy way to be a fan.

It was tough to watch the early-90s Yankees, but we all still did watch, right?

2007-07-02 13:39:40
14.   yankz
I liked watching 1998. No pennant race then.

2005 was enough. If I got to pick, I'd watch a good team flatten the opposition.

2007-07-02 13:41:46
15.   mehmattski
8 Oh, and I answered my own question: having your stud, can't miss phenom pitcher take a no-hitter into the seventh and then blow out his hamstring- that's worse than Andy Hawkins' no-hitter.
2007-07-02 13:44:29
16.   RIYank
11 13
Very good, you're right, williamnyy23.

For a little while I was getting my baseball pleasure watching the Red Sox lose. But that means I've become what I most loathe: a Sox fan whose main thrills comes from the Yankees' losing! Argh! Shoot me now!

Instead I'll watch like, I dunno, a Marlins fan. (Are there any?) Baseball is great, and I can still enjoy a Posada double and think about Phil Hughes and wonder whether Cano will be a star.

2007-07-02 13:44:35
17.   Schteeve
Can we talk about the fact that Peter Gammons has an article about how the iPhone is baseball players favorite new gadget?

Did Apple pay him to write it? Does it have anything to do with baseball in any way shape or form? What a bunch of nonsense.

2007-07-02 13:56:53
18.   rbj
11 I agree. It's why I'm not in the "Fire Torre because the Yankees haven't won since 2000" camp. I just want a good, exciting pennant race, with a good shot at the PS. I just hate watching such a talented team play so mediocre for so long.
2007-07-02 13:57:15
19.   pistolpete
3 You mean like our chances to make the playoffs? ;-)
2007-07-02 14:15:06
20.   yankz
19 I'm surprised no one dropped a "That's what she said."
2007-07-02 14:19:08
21.   Shaun P
17 I couldn't understand that one either. Then again, isn't AT&T (formerly Cingular) one of the biggest advertising sponsors of ESPN Radio? That might carry over to the rest of the ESPN empire, in which case, you might be able to draw a line.

Its pretty sad that Peter Gammons, creator of the Sunday Diamond Notes column, is writing about baseball players getting the latest name tech gadget on a Sunday, instead of, you know, baseball news.

2007-07-02 15:05:53
22.   cult of basebaal
from petey over at lohud:

Check out some of these numbers for the relief pitchers:

Mike Myers: Right-handed hitters are 10 of 59 (.169) against him with four walks. Left-handed hitters are 17 of 53 (.321) with eight walks. Makes no sense whatsoever.

Scott Proctor: Sparky has not struck out any of the last 32 batters he has faced. He has allowed 10 hits and three walks in his last 5.2 innings.

Brian Bruney: Has put 27 batters on via walk or HBP in 34 innings.

Luis Vizcaino: 24 earned runs in 39 innings.

Kyle Farnsworth: Where do you start? Opponents are hitting .281 against him and he has only 21 K in 31.1 innings. 16 walks (1 intentional). Three 1-2-3 innings in 34 appearances, which is shocking.

So Roger better go eight tonight. Either that or we get a look at Edwar Ramirez.

wow, what a douche. after being called out by posters about not having a clue who ramirez was after yesterday's entries, all-you-can-eat pete continues his longstanding tradition of taking cheap shots at players who aren't "his guys".

christ, the possible appearance of edwar ramirez may be the only reason to be excited about this game ...

2007-07-02 15:09:08
23.   Javi Javi
Here's a ray of sunshine --I came across this new blog while reading was watching. It is freaking hilarious, in that gallows humor sort of way. I love the name, too: "it is high... it is far... it is . . . caught"

http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/

2007-07-02 15:17:00
24.   Bama Yankee
22 re: Mike Myers
On his way in from the bullpen to face a lefty Mike should just save us all some time by placing a ball on the warning track under the 399 sign in left-center because that's where the ball usually ends up...
;-)
2007-07-02 15:46:04
25.   yankz
I can't believe Cliff used He Who Must Not Be Named's name!
2007-07-02 16:05:55
26.   mehmattski
So if Jeter goes 0 for 5 in the third spot, does Torre drop him to ninth tomorrow?
2007-07-02 16:10:55
27.   Ravenscar
Flaherty said that "On any given night, Clemens can dominate the opposition." It seems realistically that that isn't quite true anymore. It needs a conditional to be accurate now, at nearly 45.

I haven't so much noticed Flaherty in the past, but I did like him last night. Has he been pretty good, for those who are regular YES followers?

2007-07-02 16:11:11
28.   bartap74
26 No, he benches him for Cairo!
2007-07-02 16:13:02
29.   Mattpat11
I'm having a war with my sister. I just want to sit down and watch the Yankees play (and lose) She wants to watch Hannah Montana.

She makes a compelling point, but my misplaced loyalty has won over.

2007-07-02 16:16:01
30.   Ravenscar
Well, the way Cano's been hitting, wasn't 3rd the exception, rather than 9th?
2007-07-02 16:17:55
31.   mehmattski
If Jeter bunts, I'm turning the game off.
2007-07-02 16:18:29
32.   yankz
"We might get a 3-hole bunt here"

Scarier words have never been spoken.

2007-07-02 16:20:07
33.   Mattpat11
It was such a nice throw that he threw it into a baserunner.
2007-07-02 16:20:07
34.   Ravenscar
I love Kay saying "He might have been out" and Flaherty simply stepping on him: "He WOULD have been out."
2007-07-02 16:20:27
35.   mehmattski
Wait, did the Yankees and Twins switch uniforms when I wasn't looking?
2007-07-02 16:20:57
36.   mehmattski
34 It's O'Neill, not Flaherty.
2007-07-02 16:21:23
37.   yankz
I want to see A-Rod hit a moonshot next time. Feels like it's been forever.
2007-07-02 16:24:48
38.   Ravenscar
Really? It was Flaherty last night, and I really thought I knew O'Neill's voice. Dur.
2007-07-02 16:28:39
39.   Ravenscar
Yup, Paul. Jesus, what an idiot. Although I when I heard the "That's the kinda pitcher he is" comment earlier I thought it sounded a little more stock than what I heard from Flaherty last night.

My bad.

2007-07-02 16:29:19
40.   Ravenscar
(I mean me as the idiot, despite not being an O'Neill fan.)
2007-07-02 16:30:16
41.   yankz
GITP
2007-07-02 16:34:57
42.   yankz
Kay just said the Twins play the game the right way because they scratch out runs.

I knew A-Rod was good for nothing. Hitting monster HR is so not the right way.

2007-07-02 16:35:33
43.   Zack
Not that anyone cares, but the solution to my car problems is actually to pump a TON of money into it, but in the process to replace some agining (well, actually, totally failed) parts, all to ensure that not only can it function the rest of the year, but will be in prime condition for many years beyond...you know, just in case there was any similatirty to anything going on...
2007-07-02 16:40:43
44.   monkeypants
To the bench with you, I say!
2007-07-02 16:42:11
45.   Yankees Brasil
He actually said that Phillips handles the bat well... insane!
2007-07-02 16:43:17
46.   Marcus
45 Sounds like he was making an endorsement for Phillips to be the bat boy.
2007-07-02 16:44:08
47.   Yankees Brasil
46 That has to be it.
2007-07-02 16:44:45
48.   Yankees Brasil
a bit unlucky today..
2007-07-02 16:45:35
49.   yankz
43 I bet your car sucks at hitting with RISP and walks too many batters in late innings.
2007-07-02 16:46:46
50.   OldYanksFan
I feel really badly for Tori Hunter. REALLY badly. First off, he only makes $12m/yr. Maybe baseball was a poor career choice. Now he's having a career year, with an OPS .100 PTs higher then his career avg, and he just happens to be a FA next year. 100 PTs. Coincidence?

Anyway, he REALLY wants to stay in Minn. He really loves Minn. Loves the team, the management, his teammates.

But someone will overpay him as a .900 OPS guy, even though he's an .800 OPS guy.

So like many players, he will get his heart broken and go to another team. I mean the Twins would probably only offer $66m/5 years. That wont cut the mustard.

I know these ESPN announcers feel really badly for him.

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2007-07-02 16:47:26
51.   yankz
48 Um...did you watch the 1st inning?!
2007-07-02 16:51:33
52.   OldYanksFan
I know Roger has a LOT of muscle, but he looks heavy. If a guy like ARod feels a lot better losing 10 lbs, you wonder how being 10-15 lbs lighter would effect Roger.
2007-07-02 16:52:23
53.   OldYanksFan
48 Are you coming to us from Brasil?
2007-07-02 17:03:56
54.   Yankees Brasil
53 Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
2007-07-02 17:06:17
55.   zanderthegreat
54 cool to have fans from other countries, thats encouraging
2007-07-02 17:12:13
56.   Zack
49 I won't even go into its back up situation...
2007-07-02 17:13:42
57.   DarrenF
42 An opposite field single is always a nice piece of hitting. Kay never calls an upper-deck HR a nice piece of hitting.
2007-07-02 17:16:19
58.   Mattpat11
Kay always seems to gloss over the fact that Hunter's hitting is pretty "eh" He always says "we know what he can do with the bat!"
2007-07-02 17:16:36
59.   OldYanksFan
Time to move Matsui to 1st. He's turning into a liability in the OF. Now we have 2 guys playing scared in the OF.
2007-07-02 17:17:40
60.   OldYanksFan
Does anyone think that there are a lot of career years during player's walk years? Coincidence?
2007-07-02 17:22:45
61.   Mattpat11
Oh Christ. Kay is telling the Boof Bonser story.

Again.

Mike, I doubt YES has much of a turn over from game to game.

2007-07-02 17:23:17
62.   Zack
Yanks have what, 9 baserunners in uner 4 innings yet 1 run? Yuck
2007-07-02 17:23:36
63.   Zack
Lots and lots of very long fly ball outs
2007-07-02 17:25:43
64.   Emma Span
I loved Paul O'Neill as a player, and am generally happy enough to see him in the booth, but right now... well, I almost feel like he shouldn't have to see this.

60 The BP folks did a study in "Baseball Between the Numbers" and, if I'm remembering right, didn't find a clear correlation. Though it does SEEM like there is one sometimes.

2007-07-02 17:27:19
65.   mehmattski
58 For real. So, the Yankees sign a CF with a 104 career OPS+ going into his age 32 year to a four year, $60 million contract? I think I've seen that play before...
2007-07-02 17:33:35
66.   mehmattski
64 Dayn Perry did suggest that certain players have higher WARPs in their walk years, peaking at ages not usually given to peaking. He then suggested that, since WARP depends on playing time, that perhaps players "soldier through" minor injuries in walk years and have more playing time- which is indeed more valuable than if they went on the DL (assuming similar production).

Non stat based translation: players do have more "valuable" seasons in their walk years in part because they also tend to play more games during those years.

2007-07-02 17:35:55
67.   OldYanksFan
Does anyone here think Matsui can play a decent OF for another 2 years after this one?
2007-07-02 17:39:04
68.   Zack
Somehow Sutcliff has managed to say that Seattle has turned their franchise around and that "because of what they are doing now" A-Rod should have stayed there...
2007-07-02 17:39:30
69.   Emma Span
66 Thanks! I have a copy around here somewhere, but god only knows where...
2007-07-02 17:40:02
70.   Zack
67 Define decent. He can play OF and be not horrific, but I wouldn't say he'll be a good to average OF...
2007-07-02 17:46:18
71.   uburoisc
68 I heard it, too. Yeah, Seattle is much preferred to NY these last few years. Idiotic thing to say.
2007-07-02 17:53:17
72.   thelarmis
boBBy baseball!!! finally...
2007-07-02 17:53:41
73.   thelarmis
holy moon shot!!!
2007-07-02 17:55:14
74.   monkeypants
Andy Phillips!
2007-07-02 17:55:27
75.   thelarmis
eric andrews looks smokin'! : )
2007-07-02 17:58:28
76.   Chyll Will
50 "I feel really badly for Tori Hunter. REALLY badly."

Yep, it's all fun and games until somebody loses an i.

(so sorry, I couldn't let that one go by... >;)

2007-07-02 18:01:43
77.   Jim Dean
76 Thanks for that.
2007-07-02 18:04:25
78.   51cq24
i can't believe bobby pulled a pitch. it looked like it was an accident.
2007-07-02 18:05:37
79.   mehmattski
It's Juan "Scott Proctor" Rincon!
2007-07-02 18:05:39
80.   thelarmis
leche!!!
2007-07-02 18:09:54
81.   Zack
Wow, possibly the most generous base hit ever. Jeter's clutchitudeness extends to the scorer's table :)
2007-07-02 18:10:17
82.   OldYanksFan
Base hit? Don't infielders know about getting in front of the ball?
2007-07-02 18:10:36
83.   Mike T
It's nice to see the Yankees do this to someone, as opposed to someone doing this to the Yankees.
2007-07-02 18:10:44
84.   51cq24
well everyone can give up on the idea that edwar will be pitching tonight.

arod's fine.

2007-07-02 18:10:57
85.   Zack
Oh dear God don't be hurt A-Rod. That would kill the last reason to watch this team
2007-07-02 18:11:01
86.   JL25and3
I'm very confused. The Yankees appear to have more runs than the Twins. What does this mean?
2007-07-02 18:11:53
87.   Zack
84 Yeah, there is no way Scott Proctor/Farnsworht don't pitch today, despite all evidence pointing towards that ending badly
2007-07-02 18:13:11
88.   JL25and3
Sorry to hear about the car, Zack. But hey, it's like Clemens, all it costs is money.
2007-07-02 18:13:56
89.   monkeypants
86 I think it means that they have to, by rule, walk a bunch of Twins in the top of the inning and give the lead back. The problem with this rule is enforcement--the Yankees generally follow the rule, but some teams don't, and they end up scoring more runs at the end of the game than their opponents. I don't why the league doesn't crack down on this.
2007-07-02 18:15:50
90.   51cq24
that's a very interesting turn of events. bowa's making the calls now.
2007-07-02 18:16:38
91.   Zack
88 Yeah, so be it, could always be worse. Of course, as a grad student, I am much more the Devil Rays than the Yankees...
2007-07-02 18:17:57
92.   tommyl
Oh dear lord, if A-Rod is hurt this team is going to nosedive.
2007-07-02 18:18:51
93.   monkeypants
92 "...this team is going to nosedive."

As opposed to now?

2007-07-02 18:18:58
94.   Marcus
I missed the play, was their a collision at first base?
2007-07-02 18:19:54
95.   JL25and3
91 It's like I said earlier. Start being really, really nice to your mom.

89 The Yankees have definitely put themselves in a tough situation here - they'll have to work harder to pull out the loss. But I have confidence in the bullpen.

2007-07-02 18:20:32
96.   Mike T
89 Nice one.
2007-07-02 18:25:09
97.   Zack
Hey, if A-Rod is hurt it means Cairo won't be playing 1b, right? eh? eh??
2007-07-02 18:25:52
98.   tommyl
93 There is a controlled crash with the engines flaming out, and there's a kamikaze run. Be prepared.
2007-07-02 18:27:10
99.   tommyl
97 Its our free preview of the 2008 Yankees
2007-07-02 18:28:32
100.   Shaun P
97 Can someone with TV (or MLB.TV) tell a poor sleep deprived Yankees fan (with no access to the TV) what happened to A-Rod?
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2007-07-02 18:30:43
101.   tommyl
100 There was a high throw at first base. He and Morneau sort of tripped each other. A-Rod rolled, fell, then came up looking fine, but then he grabbed his hamstring. Stayed in the game for a few minutes, after Posada walked they took him out. He was grimacing. Its likely a hamstring strain, who knows if its a day to day thing or he's out for weeks. The one plus is the ASB is coming up.
2007-07-02 18:31:01
102.   monkeypants
100 A-Rod hit DP play ball to third; relay from second was high; 1B jumped and A-Rod tripped over his ankle, tumbled behind the bag. Then he got up holding his hamstring, stretching his legs.
2007-07-02 18:31:35
103.   Shaun P
100 Sigh. What is it about Yankees and collisions at 1B?

Thanks, tommyl.

2007-07-02 18:33:13
104.   monkeypants
103 Like Tommy Lasorda (or Sparky Anderson, or some other legendary manager) supposedly said--if they moved the bases one foot closer (or farther), they would eliminate all those close plays.
2007-07-02 18:34:14
105.   51cq24
103 it isn't just the yanks. i don't think he's that hurt. he didn't seem to want to come out, and the tumble didn't really look that bad. i'm just guessing though.
2007-07-02 18:36:58
106.   Shaun P
102 And thank you too monkeypants.

You're in Canada, right? Whats it like being able to have a Labatt's anytime you want? In upstate NY, you can get Labatt's anywhere. In MA, not so much.

2007-07-02 18:37:46
107.   tommyl
105 Its impossible to tell until tomorrow morning at the earliest probably. When he wakes up is it a bit sore, or is it really hurt. If its the latter he could be out a month or more. If that occurs, this team should basically throw in the towel. The offense will be anemic.
2007-07-02 18:39:44
108.   JL25and3
Note to Joe: If Clemens falters, use Mo. Don't worry about if it's the ninth inning, or if it's a save situation, or anything else. Just bring him in.
2007-07-02 18:43:08
109.   Mattpat11
Well, its over.
2007-07-02 18:43:31
110.   Mattpat11
108 But Farnsworth throws 100 MPH.
2007-07-02 18:43:33
111.   yankz
The idea of Arod going down for any period of time makes this season go from painful to laughable. At least a firesale would begin.
2007-07-02 18:43:47
112.   tommyl
A-Rod has a hamstring strain. Re-evaluated tomorrow.

This does not bode well.

2007-07-02 18:44:46
113.   51cq24
so if he's down for the next month and the yankees somehow turn it around and get back into the wildcard race, does everyone start talking about how he's not a winner again?
2007-07-02 18:44:59
114.   RIYank
Nice game for Rocket.
2007-07-02 18:45:05
115.   Mattpat11
Quite the AB there by Ford.
2007-07-02 18:45:41
116.   monkeypants
106 Well, as some of the locals would say, I'm in Québec, not Canada! Truth be told, between the provincial price-fixing scheme and what the neighborhood bars have on tap (generally Molson), I don't drink as much Labatt as you might expect. That doesn't mean, of course, that would turn my nose at an icy cold Bleue...
2007-07-02 18:45:41
117.   monkeypants
106 Well, as some of the locals would say, I'm in Québec, not Canada! Truth be told, between the provincial price-fixing scheme and what the neighborhood bars have on tap (generally Molson), I don't drink as much Labatt as you might expect. That doesn't mean, of course, that would turn my nose at an icy cold Bleue...
2007-07-02 18:45:52
118.   Yankee Fan in Chicago
108 I wouldn't mind seeing Ramirez in the 9th, if we're still up by at least 4.

Anyone know the patron saint of first-ballot hall of famers, so I can start praying and lighting candles for A-rod?

2007-07-02 18:46:12
119.   yankz
I blame what's his face, that trainer who got fired.
2007-07-02 18:47:01
120.   RIYank
113 Yeah, we'd hear about how all A-Rod is good for is numbers. Unlike Brosius.
2007-07-02 18:47:25
121.   mehmattski
Clemens has pitched pretty well today, I guess...
2007-07-02 18:47:40
122.   monkeypants
116 117 Sacré Bleu!--how did that happen?
2007-07-02 18:47:41
123.   Mattpat11
113 Look at the bright side. It prevents people from bitching about his July numbers when they inevitably fall somewhere in between May and Not April or June And when he comes back in September to lead us into the promised land, Thats more credit for him.

Aw fuck it. We're done.

2007-07-02 18:48:29
124.   mehmattski
113 If he's down for a month, the Yankees would go 5-20. So no worries there.
2007-07-02 18:49:11
125.   yankz
I blame what's his face, that trainer who got fired.
2007-07-02 18:50:14
126.   Mattpat11
DEEP right center field. You think that went 330?
2007-07-02 18:50:36
127.   Jim Dean
123 Have some respect for the children! And the sanctity of the Banter!
2007-07-02 18:50:50
128.   51cq24
can tabata learn to play 3b?
2007-07-02 18:51:13
129.   Zack
113 Thats exactly what I was thinking. hes out a week, Yanks win all the games, media says "see, they don't need him!"

Except what 124 said is far far more likely...

2007-07-02 18:51:23
130.   monkeypants
Cairo!
2007-07-02 18:51:46
131.   51cq24
126 you would think that sitting in the park for 120 games a year would allow him to judge those medium fly balls better
2007-07-02 18:51:59
132.   OldYanksFan
Well it's about time Torre batted Cairo cleanup!
2007-07-02 18:52:09
133.   RIYank
Finally some production out of our third baseman!
This is why I'm not worried. If A-Rod goes down, we've still got Miggy.
2007-07-02 18:53:17
134.   51cq24
133 and he's clearly a defensive upgrade
2007-07-02 18:54:09
135.   monkeypants
128 If he goes on the DL, they could move Phillips to 3B and call up Shelley Duncan to play 1B.

But of course, Pete Abe reported today that Torre claims to have "heard about" Duncan, but that he would only be considered a DH at the ML level. And we all know DH is occupied for the foreseeable future.

2007-07-02 18:55:41
136.   monkeypants
126 131 Funny stuff. I groaned to my wife when Kay made that "driven DEEP to right" call. She ignored me, as usual.
2007-07-02 18:57:08
137.   Jim Dean
135 Per PeteAbe, Tea said they (he?) see Duncan as a DH. Sorta like how Phillips can only play 1B.
2007-07-02 18:57:24
138.   monkeypants
Edwar really has inheritd Basak's spot on the bench, er, I mean roster.
2007-07-02 18:57:50
139.   Jim Dean
Uh I should have read the rest of your post...long day at work
2007-07-02 18:58:04
140.   monkeypants
Cairo to Phillips!

Who says we all can't be happy?

2007-07-02 18:58:07
141.   thelarmis
what a nice site: mo on the mound at the stadium with a lead. me likey!
2007-07-02 18:58:10
142.   Mattpat11
I'm not sure I fully understand what's going on. Why do we have a bigger number than they do?
2007-07-02 18:59:31
143.   51cq24
138 yeah but here i can't complain, this is appropriate to have mo in here
2007-07-02 19:00:40
144.   Shaun P
110 And Kyle may yet re-discover his slider, which will make him totally unstoppable!

116 Ah, no need to explain - my wife teaches French, and has taken a few class trips to Quebec, so I understand. Beautiful place.

138 I feel bad for Edwar if that's so.

2007-07-02 19:01:03
145.   thelarmis
miggy-mania!!!
2007-07-02 19:01:05
146.   monkeypants
Cairo to Phillips !!!
2007-07-02 19:01:42
147.   thelarmis
350!!! wow.
2007-07-02 19:01:56
148.   Mattpat11
The Yankees aren't batting again?

This is BIZARRO WORLD.

2007-07-02 19:01:59
149.   Jim Dean
Duuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh Yaaaaannnnkkkkkkkeeeeeesss Wwwwwiiiiinnnnn!

Start spreading the news....

2007-07-02 19:02:44
150.   Mattpat11
144 Screw the slider. ONE HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR! No one who has ever thrown a pin straight fastball has ever failed.
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2007-07-02 19:03:01
151.   monkeypants
142 Remain calm--whatever you do, do not panic. This happens sometimes. Just go lie down and get a good night's sleep. Things will probably start to look a lot more familiar tomorrow.
2007-07-02 19:05:27
152.   51cq24
feels a little like the hughes game
2007-07-02 19:07:19
153.   Mattpat11
151 I'm still waiting for the Yankees to go down quietly in the bottom of the ninth. There seems to be some delay.
2007-07-02 19:08:37
154.   Shaun P
150 I know what you mean. That dude who closes for the Tigers, Matt Anderson is his name, right? He's been with them for 8 years or so, and he's on the verge of saving his 300th game already! Same with the great Billy Koch. Can't beat 100 MPH straight fastballs.
2007-07-02 19:29:47
155.   seamus
awesome. and i missed it. crap. cool.
2007-07-02 19:51:07
156.   seamus
ok. add another crap for arod getting hurt. damn.
2007-07-02 19:51:13
157.   tommyl
A-Rod did not seem very optimistic and said he was unable to put weight on it right now. This could be really, really bad.
2007-07-02 20:07:50
158.   yankz
LoHud has the update. Not for the faint of heart.

It's time to finally quit on the season. Thanks, Luis Castillo.

2007-07-02 20:09:05
159.   thelarmis
yeah, pete abe doesn't have good news posted on a-rod. alex said he couldn't have scored from 2nd on a base hit and that's why he asked out. he said he crashed into morneau pretty damn hard, but it could've been worse.

pete says it's high up on the hammy, where the muscles are thicker, and that's more serious. more tests tomorrow, including, most likely an MRI.

good lord, what next? let's collectively hold our breath and hope that alex can get healed in the next coupla weeks and have a monster 2nd half...

the baseball gods hate us this year...

2007-07-02 20:09:43
160.   cult of basebaal
who would'a thought that a game in which Rocket went 8 strong innings to win his 350th would feel so hollow ... ugh
2007-07-02 20:17:36
161.   yankz
The absolute worst case scenario is happening. What did we do? Is it because we cut Aaron Boone?
2007-07-02 20:17:45
162.   monkeypants
A-Rod hammy might make him much less tradeable this year, too. Well, nothing to do but cross your fingers that he's not that bad, and in the meanwhile get the Brinks truck ready.
2007-07-02 20:19:33
163.   thelarmis
161 neh, boone kinda cut himself w/ the basketball game. it's more likely 'coz we cut aaron guiel! ; )
2007-07-02 20:41:07
164.   tommyl
159 If its that bad, 6-8 weeks is more likely. Get used to a July without A-Rod.
2007-07-02 20:43:42
165.   yankz
163 Ever heard of "The Curse of the Bamboonie"? Never cut the man who wins you a pennant, some people believe.
2007-07-02 20:44:31
166.   yankz
My only hope is that this is another case of Pete acting like he knows way more than he really does.
2007-07-02 20:54:05
167.   Zack
Pete Abe has shown himself to get on his high horse and say a lot of unfounded things a lot. While a high strain might be worse, we are talking about a much different thing than what, say, took out Hughes. It wouldn't surprise me to see A-Rod out until the all star game but at this point, so be it
2007-07-02 20:57:35
168.   Shaun P
166 Pete Abe's analysis sometimes leaves something to be desired, but his med stuff is usually spot on. This could be big, big trouble for the Yanks.
2007-07-02 21:25:49
169.   tommyl
168 Agreed, but there's just no way to know anything for at least a day, if not more. It could be anything from a mild grade 1 to a severe grade 2 (I doubt its a 3, he'd be unable to walk unassisted then). You just can't tell the difference right away. He could wake up tomorrow with just some mild soreness, or be unable to get out of bed. There's no way Pete (or anyone else on the team) can no that.
2007-07-02 22:05:56
170.   yankz
Wow, Jimmy Kimmel is not really that funny.
2007-07-02 22:53:49
171.   Vandelay Industries
Just when you think it cannot get any worse, Arod goes down.

Just when you think ESPN cannot sink any lower, they bring you "Who's Now?"

Is Keyshawn going to play the expletive laden answering machine message threatening to fucking kill his ex girlfriend and her new boyfriend? I'm only half surprised Lawrence Phillips isn't hosting the show.

2007-07-03 00:27:10
172.   Zack
168 Is med stuff that he gets from med stuff is spot on, but as tommyl said, the actual condition of his hammy is pure speculation. That it is high up means nothing without the severity of the pull itself. Sigh, this season just continues to throw curves...

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