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2007-05-11 05:05
by Alex Belth

"It's easy to say, oh yeah, we'll dismiss that, let's go get them tomorrow," [Yankee reliever, Sean] Henn said. "But it's a 5 1/2-hour flight to Seattle. It's probably going to seem a lot longer than that."
(N.Y. Post)

The Yanks got their bell rung yesterday afternoon to the tune of 14-2 at the Stadium. The less said about this one, the better.

Over at the Times, Joe Lapointe has an update on the new Yankee Stadium, while Manny Fernandez writes about Latin food at the current park.

Meanwhile, in a sad development, Frank Torre is back in intensive care:

"He's not doing too well," Joe Torre said. "The kidney was functioning, but it takes a hit when you have to have all those antibiotics. He was sort of in and out (yesterday) morning when I talked to him. But on aspects of the game (Wednesday) night, he had no problems, which was good."
(N.Y. Daily News)

"He's been on borrowed time for a lot of years," Torre said yesterday, in the quiet of a virtually empty office. "When you're a 75-year-old man, and you're in the hospital, nothing's ever a lay-up."
(Vaccaro, N.Y. Post)

Our thoughts and best wishes go out to the Torre family.

Comments
2007-05-11 05:32:03
1.   rbj
"Our thoughts and best wishes go out to the Torre family."
Amen.

Puts things like yesterday's game back in perspective.

Only bummer for me is now the late starting games.

2007-05-11 05:59:54
2.   williamnyy23
I didn't read the game thread (because I had the displeasure of being at YS), so forgive me if I revive any dead horses, but:

1) Bobby Abreu was simply awful in the OF yesterday. He completely misplayed Barajas' triple and then made two awful throws to the plate. Combined with his now horrific slump, I am being to wonder if this is the Abreu that so many Phillies' fans wanted to ride out of town?

2) The turning point of that game was the Arod misplay during the run down. It seemed like the air went out of both the team and the fans after that gaffe.

3) Wang really didn't pitch poorly at all. In addition to the aforementioned misplays, Cano also should have held onto the ball on the Lofton SB, which would have taken that run off the board.

4) How much longer will Torre go with Henn? With Villone tearing up Scranton and his May 15 opt out approaching, I wouldn't be surprised to see a change.

5) Can Vizcaino get any worse? If I was Torre, he'd strictly be a mop-up guy until he proves he can throw some strikes.

6) Amid all the optimism of the past week, the Yankees still managed to ONLY go 4-3 on a home stand that featured Texas and Seattle. If the team wants to get back into the race, that simply will not cut it.

7) These next two games with Rasner and DeSalvo are huge. If either or both craps out, things could start getting ugly once again. With Clemens and Hughes at least 3 weeks away, the Yankees still have at least 8-10 games in which Raz and the Strangler need to pitch.

8) Finally, the Red Sox remain on a roll and are now 7 games up. As I mentioned yesterday, it might be more worthwhile to keep an eye on Detroit and Cleveland.

9) I am now 0-4 when I go to YS. What's worse, the team has been outscored 46-21!

2007-05-11 06:05:26
3.   seamus
2 I just called Yankee Stadium security. You are officially banned from the stadium... sorry.
2007-05-11 06:07:53
4.   williamnyy23
3 I need something to protect me and the Yankees from myself.
2007-05-11 06:16:09
5.   seamus
2 as for Henn, I think Viz needs to be demoted. He has looked just awful. Henn looked unhittable early. What I would like to know is if this is a correction, the real Henn, or if the overwork has caught up with him.
2007-05-11 06:17:45
6.   Sliced Bread
Thanks for the updates, Alex.

The Cuban sandwich and plantain chips sounds like a fine idea. Maybe next homestand.

If you want to feel good about the Yanks future, the NJ Star Ledger has a good piece about the Trenton Thunder pitchers who have been tearing it up lately. No Maas has a link up.

Will Hughes, Rocket, and Igawa all be working out together in Tampa? How long before Vizcaino joins them? Viz needs rehab. He needs to be sent far away from the Yanks bullpen at this point. Best thing for him. Run and chill with Hughes, Rocket and Igawa.

2007-05-11 07:16:32
7.   Jim Dean
Does Henn have options left?

If so, I can't see Vizcaino getting sent out as that would require a DFA, I think. Maybe a DL stint though?

Villone does appear to have worked his way back.

2 I know how hard the "I was right" urge tugs. But it is way too early to set sights on the wild card. As many said, if the Sox lose players to the DL, they're in trouble. A 3-7 stretch can push the race around quite a bit.

2007-05-11 07:42:49
8.   JL25and3
2 I don't know, I think the turning point may have been those 10 runs in 2 innings.

Having said that, the team hasn't looked good on fundamentals. Even Jeter pulled an absolute brick the other day, throwing to the wrong base - completely and obviously wrong - to let Kinsler get to second.

2007-05-11 08:13:35
9.   Blogcat
I'm not moving on from this one. I'm thoroughly disgusted with this effort. We come in there at home with our supposed top pitcher against B. McCarthy, who's been scantly better than Jeff Weaver this year. Plus we played just about every starter while they were holding out Michael Young.

The conditions were set for us to win and win big, and it would have been a huge boost to send us out to the West Coast, where we ALWAYS struggle. And just look at the TURD we dropped...5 hits off McCarthy--even after yesterday his ERA is STILL 6.89!! Just an atrocity--a horrible, embarrassing effort.

The only good thing is that Wanger went into the 7th, which was needed after we sat Mussina down after just 80-SOMETHING PITCHES!!!! WHY!?!? What are we SAVING him for!? The man's ALMOST FORTY!!! We squeeze everything out of him this year and MOVE ON. This is insane!

Now we're stuck in Seattle while Boston has to "struggle" with Baltimore. We're toast, and you know what? We DESERVE to be.

2007-05-11 08:27:51
10.   seamus
I don't understand how people can overreact to one game. Heck, I look at the game yesterday and see that hopefully we got those runs out of us and can look forward to the next game. Not to mention that we've been on a bit of a roll overall. Keep some perspective folks!
2007-05-11 08:33:31
11.   e double trouble
Friends I've got to get this off my chest ...
I've been reluctantly keeping in tune with the Yankee season this year as I had given up on them after the playoffs '06.

It had become too depressing for me to see the team that I loved turned into a ball club that didn't function as a team any longer.

It smells to me like this year we are going to watch the palpable corruption that the mighty dollar has on people.

When it comes to baseball it seems that the best team wins, not the best group of individual players ... so when will the Yankees come together as a mutually supportive team? or how will they find that collective consciousness?

Certainly hiring the Rocket at $7,500 a pitch is beyond sad and laughable.

What does a fast ball matter when you don't have a team to back it up?

tell me please

is Blogcat right? do the Yankees DESERVE to be toast?

It's like the insanity in Iraq - we support the troops (like the Yankee players) it's the business (George S./George W.) that pays them to kill and profits off of their back when they die.

When are we going to get down to what's really going on around here?

Why is it that sports and politics are not supposed to mix?

thanks for letting me get that out there

2007-05-11 08:34:10
12.   seamus
ok. I have a request for advice. I haven't played organized ball since gradeschool. Myself and possibly my wife were thinking of joining a recreational co-ed softball league. But since I haven't bought a bat, ball, or glove since middle school I am wondering what I should be looking for. Any suggestions? Thanks (in advance).
2007-05-11 08:36:54
13.   yankz
I'm just glad I wasn't around you two during the 7 game losing streak.
2007-05-11 08:39:58
14.   ny2ca2dc
Wasn't it really JoPo who botched the rundown; Jorge chased the runner only part way back to third, then tossed to A-Rod, who didn't want to bring Wang onto the play. YES guys were saying Jorge should'a chased the runner back toward 3rd further, and they seemed correct. Annoying though.

I am sensing the pattern of a stretch of really good fundamental ball, followed by a stink bomb. Kinda like a lot of last year... Remember the game vs. Washington, and the Chacon start vs the Indians? (it was the indians, right, something like 19-1?)

2007-05-11 08:49:55
15.   Blogcat
These are games we have to win. Especially when our next two games are with Rasner and DeSalvo.

This isn't overreaction to one game, this is reaction to a 16-17 start, when our opponents have been mostly sub-.500 with the exceptions of Cleveland and Boston, against whom we're 4-4.

Remember the good old days when people were worried Abreu couldn't hit home runs anymore?? The man can't even hit, PERIOD, nowadays. We've got just three .300 hitters in our supposedly dominant lineup and a pitching staff that can barely get into the 6th inning most nights. And Clemens ain't gonna help on that front, folks. This team is in serious, serious trouble.

2007-05-11 08:50:56
16.   ric
12

just buy an outfielders mitt to make sure the webs big enough for a softball. i dont know big your hands are but id get like 12.5in - spend like $60 range and you can get a decent glove.. make sure you geta something adjustable and avoid velcro (buckles are better IMO)(i bought my most recetn 3rd baggers mitt online) balls are easy- theyre ususallyin a bucket at city sports... bat depends on your size as well... ask someone at the store.. hope that helps.

2007-05-11 08:54:13
17.   Jen
14 Yes, it was Jorge who botched it. You always chase the runner back to the bag from whence he came as far as you can before you throw. I give Alex credit, he made it a close play on that diving tag.
2007-05-11 09:02:47
18.   seamus
16 Ric - thanks. I found some useful info on bats online but mitts were a total question mark. That helps a lot.
2007-05-11 09:13:20
19.   RIYank
16 All good advice, and most of that I wouldn't have thought of, damn.
I recommend getting a Japanese glove. I've bought two recently (for my kids) and they seem to me to be obviously a very good value. $60 seems about right to me, too.

Bats: so you've looked, and you've seen the prices that you thought might be a joke or have a decimal point misplaced, right? Just get a looooooong bat and swing it in the store to make sure you're comfortable with it.

2007-05-11 09:16:01
20.   RIYank
Look, we've won 7 out of 10. The big problem seems to be that our bullpen tends to disintegrate without warning. But cross out Vizcaino, if that's possible, and the pen should be adequate.

Oh, and I say: let's get a lot of great individual performances and let Minnesota play as a team.

2007-05-11 09:18:38
21.   seamus
19 holy smokes! I had looked into what I needed to get, but not prices. YOur post prompted me to look closer. holy smokes!
2007-05-11 09:20:31
22.   seamus
19 ok, i now see there are affordable ones. When I first looked all I could see where $400 and $500 bats. Seems a lot to pay when we both stink.
2007-05-11 09:26:51
23.   Bama Yankee
19 Swinging the bat in the store is good advice... if you swing it violently while screaming you might even get a better price (of course, you might also get some jail time or possibly just community service if it your first offense). ;-)

22 Seriously, have you checked eBay? You might find a good used bat there.

2007-05-11 09:29:20
24.   ric
22

first time i played softball in a league was trial by fire when my friends needed a repalcment player in the playoffs.. i was catching with an unbroken-in infielders glove... there must have been like 1000 passed balls. it was wicked embrassing.

2007-05-11 09:30:33
25.   RIYank
Hmmmmm. Bama Yankee = Kyle Farnsworth??
ric = Dug Mirabelli???
2007-05-11 09:34:10
26.   AbbyNormal821
23 Bama - you crack me up (and almost make me snark coffee out my nose!)
2007-05-11 09:34:10
27.   seamus
24 hmm. that doesn't sound encouraging. last time I played ball was little league and I sucked. My wife hasn't played since tee-ball. We're going to practice first!
2007-05-11 09:35:07
28.   seamus
23 seriously funny! I thought about ebay, but i'll probably just settle for something cheap I can pick up locally.
2007-05-11 09:39:29
29.   yankz
That explains everything. Bama Yankee is Karim Garcia.
2007-05-11 09:52:14
30.   williamnyy23
12 Assuming you are playing slow pitch, you should be looking at bats that weight at least 28oz (although 30-32 is probably better).

As for gloves, 12.5" might be too small for softball unless you are playing 2B or SS. 13-14" is probably more suitable. Also, $60 will buy you a decent glove, but I'd recommend spending a little bit more if you'll use it a lot. I spent close to $200 on my last glove, but it has lasted me four seasons in two fast pitch leagues. The better quality is definitely worth the price.

2007-05-11 10:05:31
31.   Zack
Seamus, don't worry, i think little league can't really be relied on as an accurate indication of how you will play now. Though, on the other hand, maybe it could.

I've thought about getting in to rec. softball, but everytime I watch them play, its always a whole bunch of 30-40 year old guys who take it way way way too seriously. I always thought softball was played Simpson's style rules...

2007-05-11 10:53:52
32.   seamus
30 yes, it is a slow pitch league. Thanks for the advice. I'm not sure if we're looking at making a long term commitment or not so maybe the cheaper glove makes more sense for now (until we see how much we like it).

31 i hope you are right about little league. My wife and I are looking to play together particularly because she is concerned about stinking too badly and not having support on the team. I am kind of nervous about ending up on a team that takes itself too seriously. It does seem that that varies from what i've read.

2007-05-11 12:30:49
33.   jkay
7 Henn has an option.
2007-05-11 15:54:17
34.   cult of basebaal
30 Actually, I'd say 28oz is as heavy as you would want to go and if you're going to be sharing with your wife, you'd probably be better off with a 26oz or 27oz.
Best bet is probably to swing a bunch at the local store and pick the one that feels best to you both.
2007-05-11 17:40:06
35.   Jim Dean
33 Thanks. So they''ll send Henn down, see if they can work out Vizcaino, and call up V for Villone.

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